Re: [SHR] first total usable image

2009-02-03 Thread Ivan Shirokoff
Steffen Winkler пишет: > Three days ago, I installed the actual SHR onto my freerunner (testing > or unstable...I think it was the unstable image, but not sure) and > today, I can only say one thing: It's the best image I've ever seen! > Nice to hear this. I've flashed SHR recently too. But occa

Re: Google analytic records of January

2009-02-03 Thread Daniel Spies
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:53:37 +0800, Brenda Wang wrote: > Dear list: > I update the Google analytic records of wiki last month. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers > > Application page, Android, Distribution pages still the most popular > page of Wiki. > > > Feel free to le

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread c_c
Hi, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > No more words from our side. Grab it while it's hot, have fun and happy > hacking. > > http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/ > Well, the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--200

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Michele Renda
On 03/02/2009 09:21, c_c wrote: > Well, the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and > openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz images > both boot and drop me into tty1 console. Cant get X to run on these. No > busybox either. >Any pointers ?

Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Tansella
> This is reminding me of a problem we have with level interrupts on > pcf50633 new driver, we also get twice the same interrupt there although > the density of interrupts is so low and logically it cannot get confused > so it doesn't make trouble. > > We also changed lis302dl to use level interrup

Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> This is reminding me of a problem we have with level interrupts on |> pcf50633 new driver, we also get twice the same interrupt there although |> the density of interrupts is so low and logically it cannot

Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-02-03 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Thanks for all the suggestions and comments you've sent me via the list & private emails. I'll try to do some changes here and there, you can see the devel version at http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/kustomizer_devel Just to let you know, there's something wrong with the GPS at the moment, it doesn't c

Re: Wiki page - which file system in sd card?

2009-02-03 Thread arne anka
>> done on the FR. Therefore, I'll edit the page with "opinions are >> divided" regarding reliability and "no objective comparisons yet for >> other criteria". > > It'd be much easier to just punt on the whole issue and say "same rules > apply as for any other Linux system". party pooper. __

Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Tansella
> Send a bug report in Trac about it. > > There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. > > -Andy Thank You very much ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/communit

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-02-03 Thread arne anka
> is this: if People send in phones the first thing one wants to do is > test whether the phone in question actually has a buzz and how bad the > buzz is. We need to develop a robust test for that. Then the SOP would with the included headset and the gsmheadset.state i get a very strong buzz my

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:28:17 +0100 Michele Renda (MR) wrote: >On 03/02/2009 09:21, c_c wrote: >> Well, the >> openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and >> openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz >> images both boot and drop me into tty1 console

Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4

2009-02-03 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:53:15 +0100 Michael Tansella wrote: > > There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. > > Any hint where I can find this workaround, then I'll post it to the > wiki? The fix should now be in the latest andy-tracking kernel: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Petr Vanek wrote: > this happens only with qi. could it be related to ro kernel > parameter? I've just tried the image on my SD card (no qi, then, I guess), and if fails all the same. -- LC ___ Openmoko community mai

Re: High Resolution freerunner photos

2009-02-03 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Mickael Labrousse wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I found some HiRes photos of the freerunner ? > I've already download the press photos. Mickael Let me know if this works for you: http://www.openmoko.com/press-press-material.html Good luck! -Sean _

RE: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread KaZeR
> -Message d'origine- > De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org > [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de > Olivier Migeot > Envoyé : mardi 3 février 2009 11:58 > À : List for Openmoko community discussion > Objet : Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All

Re: London pub meet on the 11th

2009-02-03 Thread Lee Khan-Bourne
Hi, I should be able to make that too. I'll look for the crowd standing by the door trying to get a GPS fix. What time BTW? Lee On 1 Feb 2009, at 23:30, Gothnet wrote: > > Hello all, > > So, it's a couple of weeks since the last thread, are we still > having a pub > meet on the 11th? > >

Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. | | Any hint where I can find this workaround, then I'll post it to the wiki? I'm just adding some patches and doing some cleaning on it, I'

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-02-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, arne anka wrote: > btw: what exactly means SOP? Standard Operating Procedure ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Milestone V blkid installation prob

2009-02-03 Thread qhaz
Hi, does anyone else get this error message when udate/upgrade on milestone 5 installation? Upgrading busybox on root from 1.13.2-r5 to 1.13.2-r9... Downloading http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4t/busybox_1.13.2-r9_armv4t.ipk Collected errors: * Package busybox wants

Re: MyPaint 0.6

2009-02-03 Thread Konstantin
Michele Renda schrieb: > On 02/02/2009 23:05, Joachim Breitner wrote: >> these look as if the FreeRunner’s touch screen actually gives pressure >> input to the application. Is that really the case? >> > I read from [1] it support "pressure input" and on some tables it run. > But I don't know if

[Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter

2009-02-03 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, Is anybody using UMTS connections with the FR based on USB connected modem devices like the USB HSDPA Huawei E220 one? Any other ideas as devices? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308

Re: London pub meet on the 11th

2009-02-03 Thread gnublade
7.30 (!?) I'm in and will probably bring some other interested parties with me. 2009/2/3 Lee Khan-Bourne : > Hi, > > I should be able to make that too. I'll look for the crowd standing > by the door trying to get a GPS fix. > > What time BTW? > > Lee > > > On 1 Feb 2009, at 23:30, Gothnet wrote

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM, KaZeR wrote: > Why that? Qi boots from uSD card first by default. Yeah, but I never flashed my bootloader, so I'd like to know where Qi would come from, then. -- LC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Nicola Mfb
2009/2/3 Petr Vanek > On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:28:17 +0100 > Michele Renda (MR) wrote: > > >On 03/02/2009 09:21, c_c wrote: > >> Well, the > >> openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and > >> openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz > >> images bo

[paroli] Paroli says: Hello World

2009-02-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, " Just in time with FSO’s Milestone 5 we are releasing our first tutorial. It outlines how to create a simple app, write a simple service and do some basic interaction with edje." read more at: http://www.paroli-project.org/2009/02/03/paroli-says-hello-world/ /mirko __

Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Valery Febvre
Hi, A new release of Neon is available. This is a major feature enhancements release. Changes since 0.9.5.1: * Images can be now auto-rotated by images dimensions (not by EXIF data). In other words, image is rotated if image's orientation is landscape. A new command line option (-r, --auto-rota

Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter

2009-02-03 Thread DJDAS
Matthias Apitz ha scritto: > Hello, > > Is anybody using UMTS connections with the FR based on USB connected > modem devices like the USB HSDPA Huawei E220 one? Any other ideas as > devices? Thx > > matthias > Yes, I do and it works pretty well (not considering battery drain ;) ) You can f

microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Peter Nijs
I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en-pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an English description of the patent. (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/descrip

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Petr Vanek
>A new release of Neon is available. really cool! thank you. i would suggest two features: - preload of the next image - gestures (: Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinf

Re: London pub meet on the 11th

2009-02-03 Thread Jan Henkins
Hi, 7:30 is good, OBoE sounds splendid! See y'all there! First person to be there, please hog a nicely sized table, and display something vaguely Moko-ish/Linux-ish/Computer-ish (Linux Format mag or anything siilarly geeky) on the table for others to spot. It's a nice trick shown to me by some gre

Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter

2009-02-03 Thread DJDAS
Matthias Apitz ha scritto: > El día Tuesday, February 03, 2009 a las 02:35:06PM +0100, DJDAS escribió: > > Thanks for the pointer. I do Spanish and so I can read the page. :-) > Your modem is as well Huawei E220? I have had one borrowed by Vodafone > and it worked well on my FreeBSD laptop too;

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Great app, thanks!! :D Valery Febvre ha scritto: > Hi, > > A new release of Neon is available. > > This is a major feature enhancements release. > > Changes since 0.9.5.1: > > * Images can be now auto-rotated by images dimensions (not by EXIF > da

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Petr Vanek
>> It's a good guess... does mount say that it's still ro? i have flashed u-boot and it starts OK. reflashed qi and have the problem again. interestingly enough i tried to boot fso from nor menu once and then qi was able to boot it ok afterwards. so i am not sure what exactly happens there for t

Re: [SHR] first total usable image

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Sheldon
Ivan Shirokoff wrote: > I've flashed SHR recently too. But occasionaly I've swiched my theme to > absolutly unusible default one. > And now I just can't switch back. I've looked through the configs in > ~/.e/e/config and all of them are some kind of compiled data. > I say does anyone know how can

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Peter Nijs wrote: > I've just read a (Dutch) news article > (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en-pc- > patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article > is a link to an English description of the patent. > (http://v3.espacenet.com/p

Re: London pub meet on the 11th

2009-02-03 Thread Gothnet
Jan Henkins wrote: > > Hi, > > 7:30 is good, OBoE sounds splendid! See y'all there! First person to be > there, please hog a nicely sized table, and display something vaguely > Moko-ish/Linux-ish/Computer-ish (Linux Format mag or anything siilarly > geeky) on the table for others to spot. It's

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Incredible. If I was the person that submitted this patent application, I would have done it under a false name, simply because I would have been ashamed. A great example of Patent System abuse. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: mad...@li.org

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>"one or more" means that even if prior art exists, it can still be >patented. This is different from intellectual property where >anteriority prevent copyright. (at least in france) I think the issue here is in your word "it". If "it" is the concept of a "docking station", then there is prior a

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Peter Nijs
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote: > Peter Nijs wrote: > > I've just read a (Dutch) news article > > (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en > >-pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the > > article is a lin

[SHR] opkg upgrade unsatisfied recommendation

2009-02-03 Thread Pander
Hi all, On SHR after opkg update; opkg upgrade, I see the following: task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-uhci-hcd task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-ehci-hcd task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbcore task-base-

Re: [SHR] opkg upgrade unsatisfied recommendation

2009-02-03 Thread Pander
And also how to deal with this: Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for vala-terminal: * gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * * Package bluez-utils wants to install file /etc/init.d/bluetooth But that file is already provided by package * bluez4 *

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Valery Febvre
kimaidou wrote: > Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in > python, it should run smoothly ? Yes, if EFL library (evas, ecore, edje) and python bindings are available, it should run without changes. I develop Neon under debian so I am pretty sure of that. Unfortuna

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Stefan Fröbe
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Petr Vanek wrote: ... > the trouble is that i don't know how to change the ro flag for qi (i > can imagine i could place a kernel on my card and add append file with > rw and root=/dev/mtd device and of the nand flash?) Hi Petr, Just create a textfile "/boot/appe

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread azmodie
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ 2009/2/3 Valery Febvre : > kimaidou wrote: >> Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in >> python, it should run smoothly ? > > Yes, if EFL library (evas, ecore, edje) and python bindings are > av

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Peter Nijs wrote: > On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote: >> Peter Nijs wrote: >>> I've just read a (Dutch) news article >>> (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en >>> -pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In th

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Thomas des Courières
2009/2/3 Stefan Fröbe > > Just create a textfile "/boot/append-GTA02" and put whatever is needed as > kernel parameters in there - here is mine: > rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 > Thanks ! That did the trick with my Qi ___ Openmoko community m

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Gothnet
Peter Nijs wrote: > > I'm almost sure someone suggested > hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible > Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea. -- View this messag

Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter

2009-02-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Matthias Apitz wrote: > is there any way to use something like an USB-splitter to connect the > USB of the FR to the modem and at the same time to a laptop? I don't think that'll be possible. You need the FR to be a USB host to connect to the modem, but a USB client t

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Gothnet wrote: > Peter Nijs wrote: > > I'm almost sure someone suggested > > hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible > > Isn't it? > > You can get external USB gfx cards these days. > > Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Tony Berth
did you try it on the current SHR unstable cause it doesn't start! It crashes! Thanks Tony On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Great app, thanks!! :D > > Valery Febvre ha scritto: > > Hi, > > > > A new release of Neo

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread c_c
Hi, Same here. Needed the rw rootdelay=3 parameters for qi. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2264011.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > Same here. Needed the rw rootdelay=3 parameters for qi. And what to do when the problems occurs _without_ qi? Thanks ;) -- LC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Chris Syntichakis
Hi, I have the QT on the rootfs, so I put the FSO on a uSD (I have installed the QI). ITS impossible to boot from the uSD, QI just seems to ignore the FSO and it just boots to NAND kernel.. I HAVE no problems with a similar uSD (has FDOM) but only with the FSO.. Chris -- View this message in

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 2009/2/3 Stefan Fröbe mailto:frob...@googlemail.com> | | | Just create a textfile "/boot/append-GTA02" and put whatever is | needed as kernel parameters in there - here is mine: | rw rootdelay=3

Re: MyPaint 0.6

2009-02-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Konstantin wrote: > Michele Renda schrieb: > > On 02/02/2009 23:05, Joachim Breitner wrote: > >> these look as if the FreeRunner’s touch screen actually gives pressure > >> input to the application. Is that really the case? > > > > I read from [1] it support "pressure i

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, | | I have the QT on the rootfs, so I put the FSO on a uSD (I have installed the | QI). | | ITS impossible to boot from the uSD, QI just seems to ignore the FSO and it | just boots to NAND kernel.. | | I

Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Tansella
Very nice thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Hi Andy, | rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 > that's for a SHR kernel mentioned somewhere on this list ( uImage-2.6.28-rc4-ms5-fixes_34240a1c06ae3618.bin ) but not fixing the White/Noisy SOD for me. glamo3362.slow_memory=1 Your latest compiled kernel uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | this happens only with qi. could it be related to ro kernel | parameter? It's a good guess... does mount say that it's still ro? Normally an initscript will take care about remount rw after it had opportu

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
and if you succeed to some extent, I could mentor you a bit and we could push it into Debian (I am a DD). Unfortunately myself I have no spare time atm to yet another project to accomplish mission myself, but it should be quite easy. I would also suggest to simply look at some other python-driven

Re: Don't like unsolicited calls?

2009-02-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Crane, Matthew wrote: > > The auto-detect routines that make a human or answering machine > determination before switching to an operator seem to fail consistently > when answering with my openmoko phone. I'd rather they didn't call at > all, but at least when they do you don't have to listen

Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-03 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
> > 1. norwegian does allow for conversion to roman-only text. there are rules > much > like german. > 2. this conversion isn't used much and is a "last resort" thing. > 3. only a few "special" letters are needed for common use cases in addition to > latin > Hi! I just giving you some perspectiv

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Valery Febvre
Tony Berth wrote: > did you try it on the current SHR unstable cause it doesn't start! It > crashes! Yes, I use SHR unstable. For a first install, I think there is no problem. If a previous release of Neon was already installed, it is perhaps neccessary to delete a file. Can you look if the file

Re: [SHR] first total usable image

2009-02-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Steffen Winkler wrote: > Three days ago, I installed the actual SHR onto my freerunner (testing > or unstable...I think it was the unstable image, but not sure) and > today, I can only say one thing: It's the best image I've ever seen! [...] > > Now I only need bluetooth and a good audio player (t

Re: Don't like unsolicited calls?

2009-02-03 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/3 Helge Hafting > > For something more creative, have the phone pretend to answer. It could > "listen" to the sales pitch. When silence is detected, pick from a pool > of short .wav files that say random stuff like "interesting, tell me > more", "could you please repeat that?", "just a > mo

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Gothnet wrote: > > > Peter Nijs wrote: >> I'm almost sure someone suggested >> hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible >> > > Isn't it? > > You can get external USB gfx cards these days. > > Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I hav

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
>Seems the cradle is the only missing component here Except the patent states that it doesn't have to include a cradle and, in fact, that a cable may be considered a feature. Well done Microsoft, you're trying to patent USB host mode on a phone... Joseph 2009/2/3 Helge Hafting : > Gothnet wrot

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/3 Helge Hafting : > I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of > suing microsoft... Not exactly, but close: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neelie_Kroes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: [...] > yeah. this is one reason i want toi understand how it works without ø, æ etc. > - > one day there will be a phone with a kbd.. and it wont have a version per > language because the # of users in norway are too small to warrant a special > production

Re: MyPaint 0.6

2009-02-03 Thread Michele Renda
On 03/02/2009 17:18, Al Johnson wrote: > It seems there is pressure info available from the hardware, but that it's not > been possible to get it consistent over the whole screen. For more on what's > actually being done see: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Touchscreen_Filters > I'd like to ask

Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?

2009-02-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Hendrik Siedelmann wrote: [...] > Yes, I too think it would be useful for a longer period. In a time of > 3-5 seconds one could propably get away with simply projecting the > route at signal loss with constant speed. And I think navit snaps to > streets anyway, so it wouldn't matter if its off by a

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread c_c
Hi, Andy Green wrote: > > It's a good guess... does mount say that it's still ro? > Can't check. Busybox seems to be down too. Andy Green wrote: > > Did it try to start X and left some log anywhere? > Well, all logs are on volatile - which evaporates when i try to mount the uSD card on my

New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)

2009-02-03 Thread c_c
Hi, Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Also available on opkg.org and http://guitartune.googlecode.com/ guitartune.googlecode.com . It's based on alsa and automatically selects the appropriate alsa state. Have test

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread kimaidou
Hi Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in python, it should run smoothly ? thanks in advance 2009/2/3 Francesco de Virgilio > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Great app, thanks!! :D > > Valery Febvre ha scritto: > > Hi, > > > > A new release

Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter

2009-02-03 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, February 03, 2009 a las 02:35:06PM +0100, DJDAS escribió: > Matthias Apitz ha scritto: > > Hello, > > > > Is anybody using UMTS connections with the FR based on USB connected > > modem devices like the USB HSDPA Huawei E220 one? Any other ideas as > > devices? Thx > > > > matth

High Resolution freerunner photos

2009-02-03 Thread Mickael Labrousse
Hi, Where can I found some HiRes photos of the freerunner ? I've already download the press photos. Thanks, Mickael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Tansella
> There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. Any hint where I can find this workaround, then I'll post it to the wiki? Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailm

Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Tony Berth
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Valery Febvre wrote: > Tony Berth wrote: > > did you try it on the current SHR unstable cause it doesn't start! It > > crashes! > > Yes, I use SHR unstable. > > For a first install, I think there is no problem. > If a previous release of Neon was already installed,

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-02-03 Thread Christoph Siegenthaler
Steve Mosher wrote: > > If you've done a fix, send me photos, your contact information > and I'll send you some belated gifts for the holiday. > > Special bonus for people who post vids. > > Just send a mail to elsie, chelsea and me and we'll decide on some > goodies. > Hey! I could also bri

Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)

2009-02-03 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi, Sounds like a great app! any change of getting this to work on 2008.12 ? Kind regards, Ed c_c wrote: > Hi, > Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Also > available on opkg.org and http://guitartune.googlecode.c

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Chris Syntichakis
strange.. I get an "glamo33362.slow_memory" unknown boot option should I upgrade the QI? chris Andy Green wrote: > > > glamo3362.slow_memory=1 > > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2265242

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Petr Vanek
>Just create a textfile "/boot/append-GTA02" and put whatever is needed >as kernel parameters in there - here is mine: >rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 > >Refer to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi for more details Stefan, i understand that this is when you run system from sd card. i run

Re: MyPaint 0.6

2009-02-03 Thread Michele Renda
I foward this to ML, because I don't know if the email from Martin is accepted by ML. On 03/02/2009 21:15, Martin Renold wrote: > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 10:26:12PM +0100, Michele Renda wrote: > >> The only problem was the sensitivity of the touchscreen. It happen that >> when a person put th

Re: [SHR] first total usable image

2009-02-03 Thread Steffen Winkler
Not per GUI but per terminal it should work...haven't tried it (wifi) For USB I've to plug-in the neo, then kill the NetworkManager, restart /etc/init.d/networking and start the NetworkManager the usb interface has to be defined in the /etc/network/interfaces (Ubuntu 8.10) then a "sudo ifconfig usb

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | | On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Petr Vanek mailto:van...@penguin.cz>> wrote: | | ... | i understand that this is when you run system from sd card. i run | system from NAND and for that i need

Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)

2009-02-03 Thread Natanael
c_c wrote: > > Hi, > Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Cool, I want to try it, but i get: $ opkg install guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk Installing guitartune (0.20) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy

Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)

2009-02-03 Thread Natanael
Natanael wrote: > c_c wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune >> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . > > Cool, I want to try it, but i get: > $ opkg install guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk > Installing guitartune (0.20) to root... > Collecte

Re: opkg->deb

2009-02-03 Thread Michele Renda
On 03/02/2009 22:43, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: > Given that there are some applications (e.g. navit) which are updated > regularly for opkg, but not for deb, it occurred to me that as the > file formats are so similar, it shouldn't be so hard to write a script > to convert from one to the other. > >

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:13:50 -0500 "Jon 'maddog' Hall" said: > Incredible. > > If I was the person that submitted this patent application, I would have > done it under a false name, simply because I would have been ashamed. > > A great example of Patent System abuse. bah - it will be a real na

Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:28:49 +0100 Helge Hafting said: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > [...] > > yeah. this is one reason i want toi understand how it works without ø, æ > > etc. - one day there will be a phone with a kbd.. and it wont have a > > version per language because the # of

Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:36:26 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS said: > > > > 1. norwegian does allow for conversion to roman-only text. there are rules > > much like german. > > 2. this conversion isn't used much and is a "last resort" thing. > > 3. only a few "special" letters are needed for common use cases

Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow - Usability features

2009-02-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:15:53 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" said: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:53:26 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" > > said: > >> However in the past days I sent you privately also a mail about some > >> issues of the keyboard in lates

Re: [All] FR survey and locations

2009-02-03 Thread Pablo Miño
How do I find out what version my neo is? Do I have to open it? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Thomas Otterbein wrote: > Dear all, > > questions about buying a FR now or later, waiting for this or that software > and using this or that distribution arrive on a regular basis on this list. > I > r

Re: [SHR] first total usable image

2009-02-03 Thread bburdette
Steffen Winkler wrote: > Three days ago, I installed the actual SHR onto my freerunner (testing > or unstable...I think it was the unstable image, but not sure) and > today, I can only say one thing: It's the best image I've ever seen! > What about wifi and/or usb networking? __

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/3 Peter Nijs : > On Tuesday 03 February 2009 20:10:08 arne anka wrote: >> btw: there's one of these foss organisations doing exactly what we want -- >> looking for prior art and questioning patents. if anybody knows their >> address, drop 'em a note ... > > Do you mean this one? > > http://o

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-02-03 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2009/2/1 Steve Mosher : > We have a SOP for people who want to do it by themselves or for > others, but there are several other elements missing from the process > that would allow us to help the non DIY folks. One thing that probably I have just got a friend of mine to do both the big-C and SD/

Re: London pub meet on the 11th

2009-02-03 Thread Tina Friedrich
Hello all, what snow? Got promised about 10cm of the white stuff for two days running, didn't even get one overall! (That's in Oxford, btw). So envious whenever I see pics from virtually everywhere else in England (it seems). I shall try to come to the pub meet, however work might get in the way.

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Chris Syntichakis
opps.. the message saye "glamo3362.slow_memory" NOT glamo33362 as i wrote! Chris Syntichakis wrote: > > > strange.. I get an "glamo33362.slow_memory" unknown boot option > should I upgrade the QI? > > chris > > > Andy Green wrote: >> >> >> glamo3362.slow_memory=1 >> >> >> > > --

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Stefan Fröbe
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Petr Vanek wrote: > ... > i understand that this is when you run system from sd card. i run > system from NAND and for that i need to edit the boot environment > ... > I had flashed u-boot back but would love to use qi again as it can start > the neo on a short pwr

Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow - Usability features

2009-02-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:53:26 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" > said: >> However in the past days I sent you privately also a mail about some >> issues of the keyboard in latest e17 svn [1], but I got no answer. >> Maybe the mail wasn't sent correctly?! >

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