Re: Finally, iPhone annoused, also with multi-touch screen

2007-01-10 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 10.01.2007 um 11:13 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Von: Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 10. Januar 2007 10:13:57 MEZ An: Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: Finally, iPhone annoused, also with multi-touch screen On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 09:41

X11 and/or Framebuffer

2007-01-17 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Just a question: will the OpenMoko come with FB and/or X11? And which X11 extensions? Nikolaus Schaller ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: X11 and/or Framebuffer

2007-01-17 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schreef: Just a question: will the OpenMoko come with FB and/or X11? As a general note to the mailinglist: All official info is available from http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html As a note to people wondering about the software used: http://www.openmoko.com

Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

2007-01-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 18.01.2007 um 08:47 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl: On Thursday 18 January 2007 07:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what it is about the guy who posted this thread, but I really think that he's got some sort of talent for getting people talking. I Well, my impression was that the

Re: Child tracker

2007-01-19 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Maybe those (German text only, sorry): http://www.phonetracker.de/ Anwendungen/anw_personen.html Am 19.01.2007 um 11:05 schrieb Ole Tange: Hi Dean. You have written a comment on the wiki on the child tracker. http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/ideas/ChildTracker You mention the idea

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

2007-01-19 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
/19/07, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/19/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO, mailing lists usually lack a good archive and therfore the same questions are discussed every now and then and they have a tendency of separating communities in two groups - insiders who

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

2007-01-19 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
What about using Google Groups? Bleah. All the inconvenience of a BB/forum combined with all the drawbacks of web based email. Killer phrase detected/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: OpenMoko devices and Mac OS X

2007-01-20 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 20.01.2007 um 12:10 schrieb Renaissance Man: Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl. Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973 ships, but is such support in the works at all? Yes, since 3 years :-)

Re: OpenMoko devices and Mac OS X

2007-01-20 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl. Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973 ships, but is such support in the works at all? Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, etc all hook into OS X's SyncServices framework through native API goodness. iSync then

Re: OpenMoko devices and Mac OS X

2007-01-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Good to hear there are developers keen on making the it just works work for normal users, I'm moving more and more from a technical geek to a just need it to work for me user:-). Also very pleasing to see there is a lot of Mac users interested in this project. I assume many others will

Re: OpenMoko devices and Mac OS X

2007-01-21 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.01.2007 um 15:16 schrieb tony: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Sharing applications is much more complex and more or less means removing some parts of OpenMoko (e.g. GTK, the built in applications) and replacing with a MacOS/Cocoa compatible software layer. The best thing

Re: OpenMoko devices and Mac OS X

2007-01-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
As in, GNUStep? That's an interesting thought. Ah, I forgot to mention it is not only a thought... mySTEP is an FOSS project for the Sharp Zaurus that is only waiting for appropriate open Linux based mobile phone hardware to come :-) Please inform yourself at

Re: Idea for one of the next Neos: Projecting the display via LEDs

2007-01-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.01.2007 um 18:17 schrieb Uwe Koch: I think it must be possible to integrate 3 neccessary LEDs into the next gen Neo, and display the Display - say on a letter format size - to a white wall! 3 LEDs is not enough. You need something to make the beam scan the wall rectangle you want

Re: PLEASE KEEP DISCUSSION ON TOPIC!!!

2007-01-27 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I have simply trained my Bayesian Spam filter... Am 27.01.2007 um 18:04 schrieb Jonathon Suggs: Can we PLEASE keep the posts to the entire list ON TOPIC!!! The last few digest have all been about licensing, personal agendas, and discussion NOT related to OpenMoko. And just in case you

Re: idea: World Clock

2007-01-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Isn't very complex either - Linux system time is UTC and can be synced through nntp while network access exists. Alternatively, one can read the local or UTC time from GPS. So, local and global time is avaliable. It may just need some nice user interface to show time of two time zones by

OpenMoko at FOSDEM 2007

2007-02-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
If you have not yet recognized, Sean is giving a talk at FOSDEM 2007: http://www.fosdem.org/2007/schedule/events/embedded_openmoko I will also be there to discuss how to turn the OpenMoko into an Open iPhone based on GNUstep: http://www.fosdem.org/2007/schedule/events/ gnustep_embedded

Installer Package OE.pkg for MacOS X?

2007-02-12 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Michael, While one -can- get OE/BB running under OSX, at least theoretically, it's not as simple as doing it under Linux shouldn't we just join forces and craft an Installer package for getting OE installed directly on a Mac? IMHO, needing to install some VM and a full Linux one of the

Re: for german readers: FIC phones on the way

2007-02-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2007 um 13:43 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 13:06:25 Stefan Schmidt wrote: http://www.e28.com/e28mobile/mobile_e2861.htm http://www.e28.com/e28mobile/mobile_e2862.htm http://www.e28.com/e28mobile/mobile_e2881.htm The e2881 would be a perfect match for me

Re: An Update

2007-04-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Sean, thank you *very* much for your openness in this aspect as well! The latest hardware spin -- GTA01B_V4 was supposed to fix the few remaining issues keeping us from setting phones free; but, we uncovered some other issues. From my own experience in the Mobile Phone business, I know

Re: An Update

2007-04-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
AM, Jonas Berlin wrote: Quoting Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller on 04/02/2007 07:29 AM UTC: I think that the Neo is also seen as some competition to the iPhone - and Apple is known for high hardware quality standards. Now please, this is some illusion.. I've had heard of many problems with apple

Re: Canada OpenMoko

2007-04-10 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
available. Until then, I'll read over the wiki and attempt to setup a development environment in a VM on my MacBook. Please write a description how that really works! I am working to make a setup (MacOE) on native MacOS X but failed so far. Nikolaus

Re: built-in scripting languages.

2007-04-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 18.04.2007 um 19:02 schrieb Matthew S. Hamrick: I think maybe we need a new version of Godwin's law... any discussion about scripting languages should stop as soon as someone mentions Lisp (or Smalltalk.) Well, as a Mac addict, I propose to consider AppleScript, Automator and

Re: Richard Stallmans standpoint about openmoko

2007-04-20 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 20.04.2007 um 08:48 schrieb Raphaël Jacquot: I'm still wondering *why* we need to use an AGPS device that's so dumb that it needs the *host* to do most of the calculations, when we could have used a SIRF-STAR III sensor, that does everything inside, just like the GSM/GPRS module. I

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 03.05.2007 um 13:32 schrieb Ian Stirling: wim delvaux wrote: FWIW, most of these 'light' phones do seem so 'fragile'. It looks like any drop from pocket or table might smash them to bits. Less weight generally means more flimsy devices. No. It is easy to make a fragile looking

GNUstep/SimpleWebKit for mobiles - was: Firefox/opera for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
An interesting project has started within GNUstep: SimpleWebKit. It is a simplified rework of the full WebKit API completely written in Objective-C (which requires Objective-C++ to compile). Footprint is quite small: the Linux ARM library currently has unstripped 1.4 MByte. Here is the

Re: GNUstep/SimpleWebKit for mobiles - was: Firefox/opera for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 11.05.2007 um 17:50 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: An interesting project has started within GNUstep: SimpleWebKit. It is a simplified rework of the full WebKit API completely written in Objective-C (which requires Objective-C++ to compile). Footprint is quite small: the Linux ARM

Re: How many FOSS developers users Worldwide?

2007-05-12 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
. But as said before: it needs a clear definition. Am I counted as a FOSS user if I use a Motorola A760? Nikolaus Schaller Am 12.05.2007 um 13:12 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 12.05.2007 um 13:11 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Well, you could try to compare the participation of some OSS

Re: How many FOSS developers users Worldwide?

2007-05-12 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Am 12.05.2007 um 13:11 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Well, you could try to compare the participation of some OSS developer related events (e.g. FOSDEM) to MS Developer Conference(s) or Apple WWDC. Then you need the total number of (software) developers worldwide and a simple

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.05.2007 um 14:37 schrieb el jefe delito: Right, the first version isn't supposed to be a mass market consumer device. But I believe the intention is that the version that was intended to ship in September was to be a mass market device. I was under the impression that this phone

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Word here is that this phone's hardware is still stuck on the assemply line. FIC was supposed to do the first production run on May 10th and we have yet to hear from anybody about how that went. smile Oh man, let's hope that it did not really get stuck or even explode on the assembly line

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Why do we keep saying it's still early? The phone was due in March, and it's now not going to ship (if we're lucky) until June. It's not early, it's late! Yes, the hardware has had issues, and yes we want it right, but the software should have been ready to go in March when it was

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I had really forgotten about FCC approval until I saw the iPhone certification story. Then it drove home the point that if FIC hasn't started FCC the certification yet the delivery date (at least in the US) is going to slip again. Well, I assume that FIC - having built computers for many

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.05.2007 um 04:57 schrieb Joe Friedrichsen: It would be great to know if any of the P0 folks are US-based as well. The majority sound European, save Rod :-) Well, the EU has similar rules but there is no central FCC. It is called CE and the entity (you personally, a distributor, a

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.06.2007 um 18:27 schrieb el jefe delito: Regardless of where the hardware and software are right now, I would imagine that they both will be further along come release date. But, outside of this community and the few people that remember us telling them about the FIC Neo1973 and

Re: cellphone-sized X86 PC motherboard potential OpenMoko platform?

2007-06-10 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 10.06.2007 um 23:10 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: That would explain why Intel sold XScale :) Exactly :) IHMO there is a direct relation between the instruction set and the power consumption: The more complex a processor is the more power it needs. Yes. Let's explain it the easy (and

Re: New Oceans

2007-07-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
If I read the announcement of Sean correctly, * only the GTA1 device will be 300 US$ and will be shipped directly from Taiwan. * the GTA2 devices will have local distributors and will cost 450 US$. Secondly, a distributor has to handle warranty and marketing, answer phone calls, do

Re: Custom case designs... (the business perspective)

2007-07-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
So... the question is... a) is it possible to convince Nathan or Gordon to sell these things through their websites for $65 - $147? I can sell it through my website: http://www.handheld-linux.com although I currently focus on the European markets only (due to tax and duty complexity).

Re: Touchscreen enable/disable

2007-07-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.07.2007 um 16:53 schrieb Frederic Kettelhoit: the iPhone has a proximity sensor. But it is patented afaik. The question is by whom. Apple? The sensor manufacturer? Nokia 7650? Some 3rd party? See here: http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/n/2088.html On the upper part of the

Re: Touchscreen enable/disable

2007-07-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.07.2007 um 17:18 schrieb Raphaël Jacquot: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 04.07.2007 um 16:53 schrieb Frederic Kettelhoit: the iPhone has a proximity sensor. But it is patented afaik. The question is by whom. Apple? The sensor manufacturer? Nokia 7650? Some 3rd party? See here

Re: GNU GPL license of OpenEinstein

2007-07-12 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Ignore what you've heard about its performance; later Newton models have reportedly the best handwriting recognition available. Does this mean we could get this part (handwriting recognition) to work on OpenMoko or even on something like an Ubuntu desktop ? AFAIK: no. Einstein is just (I

Re: order confirmation numbers

2007-07-12 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 10.07.2007 um 21:09 schrieb Jonas Meyer: I think I submitted my order in the first 4 minutes that the site was online. I was hoping that I would be able to get in on that first 1000 phones they had waiting to ship and that I wouldn't have to wait for another run. However, my order

Re: What about receiving an invoice for Neo?

2007-07-12 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller pisze: I work for a company that want to purchase 3 handsets (including 2 adv boxes) but in the registration form there's no place for our tax ID number. Does anybody know how can we receive an invoice for these phones, so we can exclude costs from our tax? I

Re: Get them while they're still hot!

2007-07-13 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Can we get some more detail on the shipping insurance please? Maybe: http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/value_added/ declared_value.html ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.07.2007 um 16:46 schrieb Valerio Bruno: i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad. Me too - it is not important if it is good or bad or forum vs. list. It is important that there are enough community members who want to have it *in addition* to this list. i think is

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 22.07.2007 um 21:19 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Dnia sobota, 21 lipca 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: Well, I would suggest to use the existing Open Embedded forum (previously this was the Zaurus User Group): www.oesf.org and ask to create new subsections there OESF forums

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Dear OpenMoko Orders Team, I originally did have Order #1883 and answered YES_I_DO for a black/ silver. Then I decided to change the delivery address and got the information that I should cancel the order and place a new one because your systems can't handle that directly. This gave me

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Oops - wasn't thought to be a public response. That is another reason why I would perfer a Web based forum because you can delete or modify messages there. Am 24.07.2007 um 12:00 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Dear OpenMoko Orders Team, I originally did have Order #1883 and answered

[Community Tools] Re: Why you won't find me in the forum much

2007-07-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
if they are connected, then there isn't anything to be decidet. Well, there was already the hint that gmane or Google Groups can do exactly that *or even do it* (mirror the mailing list in a Web based forum-like view). But apparently it did not find enough acceptance (including myself).

Re: Why you won't find me in the forum much

2007-07-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
i imagine this mail2forum provides some sort of [Subforum]-tag before each e-mail. To answer to a thread, simply answer the last mail of that thread. To start a new topic, just write [Subforum] New Topic Name as Subject of the mail. At least i would implement it this way. And if it isn't

Re: Why you won't find me in the forum much

2007-07-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 26.07.2007 um 08:06 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... So when an official forum is blessed by someone, please make sure it is a forum that has a *bidirectional* email gateway. Anything else is simply sub-standard for my usage patterns. ... -- Rod Whitby -- MokoMakefile author Mail2Forum

Re: Appeals to Linux hardware hackers?

2007-07-25 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 25.07.2007 um 21:14 schrieb Giles Jones: Hi, I was thinking, there's a few people who are spending time hacking away at HTC devices to get Linux running on them. While it is commendable they would be better to help us with OpenMoko. Maybe we could appeal to them if we're not already

Re: Product naming / wiki page naming / restructuring

2007-07-27 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 26.07.2007 um 17:53 schrieb Harald Welte: Hi! Since we're now working on the phase 2 neo, i.e. what is now known officially as Neo1973 GTA02, I'd like to address one issue: For many information in the public wiki, it is not clear whether it is 1) general information about the openmoko

Re: Product naming / wiki page naming / restructuring

2007-07-27 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
OpenMoko-0.5 or whatever scheme is already in place. -2007 and -2008 so far. We might have 200x.y at some point. Hm. I think using year-names is not a good choice for software versions (mainly talking about stable releases). It psychologically forces you to do one major release every year.

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-29 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Harald wrote: So you probably wouldn't save more than USD 50 (maximum) that way. And for that, you have all the risk of some assembly problem? So, 450 - 50 USD = 400 USD for a kit... Am 29.07.2007 um 21:07 schrieb Kyle Bassett: I am curious, what do you estimate the cost (as a percentage

Re: MacOS X users get together!

2007-07-31 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find some interesting information and references to other sites. I know that Linux guys (geeks ;) very often

Re: MacOS X users get together!

2007-08-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
um 16:35 schrieb Giles Jones: On 31 Jul 2007, at 20:35, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find some

Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.

2007-08-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 03.08.2007 um 08:20 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, speaking as someone who imports electronic components and peripherals for prototype systems from the US all the time, I do know what to expect when I import. Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed

Re: [Mac OS X] Working dfu-util

2007-08-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Great! Am 07.08.2007 um 11:45 schrieb Simon Moore: I've managed to get dfu-util compiling and running natively (via MacPorts) on Mac OS X, albeit with one patch (bug #672) and one dirty little sed hack. Yes, I also had to patch two NULL pointer dereferences. Hopefully this will work for

Re: [Mac OS X] Working dfu-util

2007-08-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 07.08.2007 um 13:50 schrieb Simon Moore: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: One more question - how did you manage that dfu-util is not blocked by the AppleUSBCDC driver which also tries to bind to the same USB interface? ___ OpenMoko community

Re: Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X

2007-08-11 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 08.08.2007 um 13:01 schrieb Igor Foox: Hi, I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it

Re: Dropbear: exit status of remote shell not properly returned to client

2007-08-11 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 255 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 255 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ Am 11.08.2007 um 09:05 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Does anybody have the same experience? The symptom

Re: No softfloat?

2007-08-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all, is anybody out there who could share a working kernel binary for the GTA01b4 with hardfloat compiled in? Many thanks, Nikolaus Schaller Am 15.08.2007 um 17:22 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 14.08.2007 um 19:43 schrieb Brian Brunswick: On 14/08/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

OpenMoko Flasher-1.2 (was: Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X)

2007-08-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
There is a new version of OpenMoko Flasher: http://wiki.openmoko.org/ wiki/MacOS_X#Flashing_to_your_device New features: * supports multiple parallel downloads * added progress bar(s) * shows console output of dfu-util directly in a Text View * separately remembers which package has been

Can't flash smaller root-fs through dfu-util?

2007-08-20 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
After unsuccessfully flashing different root-filesystems, I finally found this note: If you upload rootfs image that is smaller that previous one it won't work - you need to attach to bootloader, erase NAND and then upload your rootfs first: cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 GTA01Bv3 # nand erase rootfs

Forum? (Was Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions)

2007-08-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hm, in other words: everybody should subscribe (listen) to all other lists to post questions in the correct sublist... This is IMHO a very strong argument for a Forum system where you have to register only once, but can change between topics easily - even if new ones come up. Just my 2

Re: Forum? (Was Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions)

2007-08-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.08.2007 um 12:46 schrieb Harald Welte: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:19:57AM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Harald, please calm down. I know from your blog how upset you are from setting up the new office location, networks and servers during Taifun time. in fact

Re: Forum? (Was Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions)

2007-08-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.08.2007 um 10:39 schrieb Harald Welte: Please don't bring up the forum debate again. We have heared all the arguments. We will not have a forum as long as I have any role in this project. All FOSS projects that I've ever been involved in 10+ years FOSS development use mailinglists,

Re: Can't flash smaller root-fs through dfu-util?

2007-08-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.08.2007 um 17:13 schrieb andy selby: If you upload rootfs image that is smaller that previous one it won't work - you need to attach to bootloader, erase NAND and then upload your rootfs first: cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 GTA01Bv3 # nand erase rootfs This *should* help but I am trying to

Re: Can't flash smaller root-fs through dfu-util?

2007-08-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.08.2007 um 19:23 schrieb John Seghers: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: After unsuccessfully flashing different root-filesystems, I finally found this note: If you upload rootfs image that is smaller that previous one it won't work - you need to attach to bootloader, erase NAND

Re: OpenMoko Flasher

2007-08-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
OpenMoko Flasher 1.3 (for MacOS X) is now available: http:// www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko%20Flasher Am 21.08.2007 um 09:35 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Ah, I see. I will add a feature that one can change the list of repositories in the Preferences... In the meantime, you can

Re: Buying Openmoko GTA02 from Europe

2007-08-23 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I am quite sure that there will be others who are longer in the business (like http://www.handheld-linux.com to name one I know very well) to resell the GTA02 from within Europe. But we must be aware that reselling needs some more margin for handling all these duties, tax, repacking,

Re: I broke my (non-NEO!) phone :-(

2007-09-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
As a Mac user/developer this might attract your interest: http://www.quantum-step.com/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko-Edition http://www.quantum-step.com/wiki.php?page=Presentations Am 05.09.2007 um 07:47 schrieb Christ van Willegen: On 9/4/07, Jimmy McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think you

Re: Yet another keypad idea

2007-09-09 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Well, if you have a touchscreen, why restrict to 9 buttons? Basically, you end up in a handwriting recognition like xstroke: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix03/tech/freenix03/full_papers/ worth/worth_html/xstroke.html which also uses 9 fields. Maybe this article helps to improve your

Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors

2007-09-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 09.09.2007 um 20:28 schrieb Dylan McCall: The Neo is indeed behind the iPhone in almost every tech spec except one: Openness. And: - replaceable standard battery - even compatible with Nokia batteries - integrated GPS (well, does not yet work) - much higher screen resolution (pixels per

Source for OpenMoko Flasher (MacOS X) now available

2007-09-20 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Dear all Mac users with a Neo, I have now found time to add a GPL license and make a source package. You can find it at http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko%20Flasher I would be happy if you could submit patches so that OpenMoko Flasher can be improved further. Happy OpenMoko

Re: Help Request for our Webshop

2007-09-23 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 22.09.2007 um 19:11 schrieb Joshua Layne: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Dear Community, ... Preferable this webshop should not be written in PHP. Either Perl, Python or Ruby would be fine by us. Hi Sean, This may be a stupid comment (and feel free to ignore it if it is), but why build

Re: Help Request for our Webshop

2007-09-23 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 23.09.2007 um 10:21 schrieb Krzysztof Kajkowski: 2007/9/23, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The standard Open Source Web Shop is OSCommerce (http:// www.oscommerce.com/). The only requirements it does not solve are * it is witten in PHP * it has its own database model Hi

Re: Help Request for our Webshop

2007-09-23 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
If you make use of a PHP framework then it is perfectly possible to use a clear MVC concept. Yes, it *is* possible, but that is not the point here to discuss possibilities. The topic is about which Webshop technology sould be used by OpenMoko. It appears that oscommerce doesn't use MVC

Re: Help Request for our Webshop

2007-09-23 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2007/9/23, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The standard Open Source Web Shop is OSCommerce (http:// www.oscommerce.com/). in fact we had developed a web shop even before the gta01 sales started and in the end put it into a deep, black hole. yes it was based on oscommerce

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Just for the record, those are tablets, that weight more (i.e: they have more battery life thus power) that can take such overhead. N800 Why do you assume that X is overhead that needs more weight and battery capacity? X11 is also using the same framebuffer as others are using. It is just a

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 25.09.2007 um 17:20 schrieb Dani Anon: But hey I like how you conveniently left unanswered my comment about how the FBUI and DirectFB projects exist solely to remove the X server overhead. Can you explain to me and them why they are wrong and how they have wasted all those months of

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I think there is a place for both Openmoko and Qtopia. Useful features and possibly even entire applications can be cloned/ported back and forth between the platforms. Artwork, sounds, etc can easily be shared. There is even place for more options to discuss. E.g. Objective-C + GNUstep +

Re: AW: Apple's heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones like OpenMoko

2007-10-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Friend, which type of drugs do you use to loose reality and fairness? People have different views on the world (even without drugs). And different goals for their life (e.g. Earn lots of $$$ vs. Freedom for Everything). Therefore, their conclusions what is correct and the right thing is

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
SIEMENS had shown such a display speaker at CeBIT 2002. Here a German blog entry with some photos and descriptions: http://www.usp-forum.de/prototypen-classics-limited-editions/15744- display-speaker-phone.html Am 02.10.2007 um 08:52 schrieb Sven Klomp: I didn't thought about the subject.

GNUstep/Objective-C SDK for OpenMoko --- jffs2 on MacOS X?

2007-10-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Dear all Mac based developers and GTA01 owners, after Apple has announced an SDK for native applications on the iPhone (I assume it will allow to write .app bundles with Xcode), I think I should mention (again?) that we are already working on a Cocoa compatible Objective-C based SDK for

Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??

2007-10-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Community Hi, welcome! When is the exact release date of GTA01Bv4? The new Neo phone Do you mean the GTA02? There is no announcement yet. And just for my curiosity: how do you define exact release date? a) the first announcement that you can order b) the first device did leave the

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I must admit that I can't follow the patience idea. Some facts: * FIC is a commercial company and they want to sell devices to finaly make money * impatience generates market demand - patient people wait forever. This is no good business model. What happens if the impatient people buy an

Re: state of the project message sent upon subscription

2007-10-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Good idea. Traditionally, many newsgroups and mailing lists have monthly reminder/updates/FAQ postings automatically sent out to all subscribers... Am 26.10.2007 um 08:48 schrieb Evgeny Ginzburg: Michael Shiloh wrote: Jeff, That's a great idea. I'll look into implementing this. Thanks,

Re: Homebrew Open Phone

2007-10-29 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 29.10.2007 um 00:41 schrieb Doug Sutherland: Open hardware means availability of schematics and gerbers, Are they available for the Neo? Really open hardware would be if you get all the files to produce your own silicon :-) not source code, and this is not open hardware. Driver code is

Re: Homebrew Open Phone - resent (link corrected)

2007-10-29 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Sorry, I did copy the wrong link. Here is the correct one for the LCD-PDA module. http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/download/ Am 29.10.2007 um 00:41 schrieb Doug Sutherland: Open hardware means availability of schematics and gerbers, Are they available for the Neo? Really open hardware

Re: Gphone and 850, perspectives

2007-11-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 07.11.2007 um 19:08 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl: On Wednesday 07 November 2007 18:23:18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Problem is I dont want to buy a lot of $750 US units if I could just develop on e.g. gphone or iphone which will be way cheaper. You need not buy many units yourself

Re: Gphone and 850, perspectives

2007-11-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Didnt know they had Angstrom for it. That sure helps. But how do you get Angstrom onto the board? Do you need JTAG for that? Or can it boot from SD or USB the way it's shipped? According to http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/download/x270-em-linux-doc.zip it appears tthat it can boot and

Re: Gphone and 850, perspectives

2007-11-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 07.11.2007 um 17:20 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone has an idea of another phone-pda that can at least allow to compile your own programs? I need phones for customers as service modules so they need to be able to run Linux and be open enough to accept compilers for Console

Re: Gphone and 850, perspectives

2007-11-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
That's a shame. Have a look at the upcoming GSM-enabled h/w from Unicon Systems: http://www.uniconsys.com/ Good pointer, and already available. But... - 32 MB SDRAM - 32 MB flash - Screen: - TFT LCD QVGA 3.5'' 16M color screen ___

Re: Gphone and 850, perspectives

2007-11-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 07.11.2007 um 17:42 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Problem is I dont want to buy a lot of $750 US units if I could just develop on e.g. gphone or iphone which will be way cheaper. You need not buy many units yourself - there is an idea for a group purchase. So if you can convince (many)

Re: Compulab EM-X270 Wireless PDA Module

2007-12-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 05.12.2007 um 13:41 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl: On Wednesday 05 December 2007 13:07:11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: handling cost, credit card processing cost, etc. And finally some compensation for the time we spend doing this instead of other things. The largest single cost component

Compulab EM-X270 Wireless PDA Module

2007-12-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all, we all love choice and openness. Currently, there is only the GTA01 available for OpenMoko and the GTA02 still needs some time. This has raised the search for alternatives. Especially the Wireless PDA module EM-X270 from Compulabs was discussed positively - except for its missing

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 05.12.2007 um 22:36 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too. But I can't connect to the internet: when I use ipkg update or the web browser, nothing... Looks like your laptop has no appropriate entry in its routing table to forward traffic from your

Re: SMS is required

2007-12-06 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I did not know they charge you extra for SMS in the US, since SMS is the data transfers that happens between pressing the 'call' button and the connection to the other phone (actually SMS was a hack found out by Nokia people back in the '90's) It was part of the GSM standard right from the

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-11 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! It requires two GSM modems inside Neo. That closes this issue. Here is a description what dual SIM means and why: http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_SIM -- hns

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