Hi,
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects
We have imported the opencellid data once, to bring right now better
coverage to the users. But this is supposed to be temporary. The target
being to have only openBmap data or data from projects which share
Hi Thomas,
Thomas Landspurg wrote:
Hello Risto,
Here is a few facts from such FAQ:
Not all accurate, though.
Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the
'untrusted ones')
Absolutely correct. Number is on your side.
One of the main difference from the three
Leonti Bielski wrote:
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project?
Please see the nice work from Christian Gagneraud in the archive about
comparison of what's get logged/stored by CH, OBM and OCI
logger/database:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-June/049238.html
Onen
Thomas Landspurg wrote:
Again , and clarifiacation:
ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells),
the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;)
OpenCellID: 433 574 cells
CellHunter: 148 943 cells
OpenBMap: 82 963 cells
(sorry for talking the risk of being
Great, good to know that you are back. So I would like to be sure
that you received my latest emails / linked in invitation/facebook
inviation in order to make sure that we still can continue to discuss!
:-)
2009/9/3 Onen onen...@free.fr:
Hi,
I was away from my computer, I try to go now
Hello Risto,
That's exactly the objective.There is a clear difference and
complementarity between a general purpose database and the
CellsHunter game for instance. The good news is that we are
progressing well with CellsHunter to integrate their database.
Currently the integration has been
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Thomas
Landspurgt.landsp...@8motions.com wrote:
That's exactly the objective.There is a clear difference and
complementarity between a general purpose database and the
CellsHunter game for instance. The good news is that we are
progressing well with
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote:
OpenBmap stores this data:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/myposition/wiki/log_format
* mcc
* mnc
* lon
* lat
* alt
* heading
* speed
* hdop
* vdop
* pdop
* swid: software id of the logger
* swver: software
Btw you all three (openbmap, cellhunter, opencellid) devels are warmly
welcome to join FOSS-GPS -mailing list
(http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps) - I'd like to see
discussion about the algorithms you use to calculate the position of
the cells. It must be something else than just the
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote:
Ok, downloaded the cellhunter database, this is what it stores:
provider cell_mcc cell_mnc cell_la cell_id cell_arfcn
signal gps_time gps_lat gps_long gps_alt gname local_time
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleirmaxi...@gmail.com wrote:
I looked at common api to submit cells and found that the openmoko
OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api
wanted. Both being opensource, here's my hackish solution to patch the
OBM logger
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleirmaxi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I looked at common api to submit cells and found that the openmoko
OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api
wanted.
Hello Risto,
note that strengh is already part of the opencellid api.
As I've pointed out once, the problem is not all client have access
to these data. So do we add all possible fields in the database? Out
of the 45 millions of measures, only several millions might have all
these data.
Thanks for the information, I'll subscribe to it.
2009/9/6 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
Btw you all three (openbmap, cellhunter, opencellid) devels are warmly
welcome to join FOSS-GPS -mailing list
(http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps) - I'd like to see
discussion about the
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Thomas
Landspurgt.landsp...@8motions.com wrote:
Again , and clarifiacation:
ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells),
the others are coming from OpenCellId!
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Yorick Mokoyorickm...@gmail.com wrote:
this is how I see it, from an end-user point-of-view:
openBmap has the most cells
openBmap maps the most information
all I want is as much cells as possible
AND
know that I'm logging everything that increases the
Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions
I have some point of disagreement, but I would like first to stay
polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he
disappear? I am trying to contact him since more than a week without
success
he used to be on #openmoko-cdevel (nick: OnenBmap)
but I haven't seen him in a long time
maybe somebody there knows more about it
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Thomas Landspurg
t.landsp...@8motions.comwrote:
Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions
I have some
On 9/3/09, Thomas Landspurg t.landsp...@8motions.com wrote:
Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions
I have some point of disagreement, but I would like first to stay
polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he
disappear? I am trying to
Hi,
I was away from my computer, I try to go now through my emails...
Thomas Landspurg wrote:
Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions
I have some point of disagreement,
Please tell.
but I would like first to stay
polite
You imply you think you have good
I have no idea what's going on between you people but:
Now that I had a little thought, I really don't care how many copies
of the database we have. All I care about is that
a) there's a way to use the data (=a client capable to locate me based
on the GSM cells around me)
b) the client uses the
Hello Risto,
Here is a few facts from such FAQ:
Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the
'untrusted ones')
One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID
provides a complete access to the data and the measures.
OpenCellId added a CVS uploader to
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project?
For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses
some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then
obm could import new data and everyone would be happy.
Leonti
Leonti
On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project?
For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses
some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then
obm could import new data and everyone would be happy.
Leonti
yes, it is lots of fun :) , the website is
On 9/2/09, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote:
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project?
For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses
some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then
obm could import new data and everyone would be
About the amount of cells, could someone explain me how many cells
(with some kind of location information) cellhunter knows:
http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/images/cellhunter_statistic_all.png
explained here:
http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/?hideintro=1orderby=beginat=
7milj (don't know where I got
Again , and clarifiacation:
ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells),
the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;)
OpenCellID: 433 574 cells
CellHunter: 148 943 cells
OpenBMap: 82 963 cells
(sorry for talking the risk of being the 'bad' guy agin, but at the
end
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Thomas
Landspurgt.landsp...@8motions.com wrote:
Again , and clarifiacation:
ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells),
the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;)
Yes, I knew that OBM had imported from OCI but to me the only thing
that
Hi,
very nice work! Thanks for taking the time of doing this.
Christian Gagneraud wrote:
For OBM logger to be compatible with CH database, there's very few
data that need to be added to the OBM logger:
- provider: the network operator, as reported by fso.GSM.Network.g
getStatus() or
Christian Gagneraud wrote:
Hi all,
I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some
data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server.
I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert
data from CH to OBM and upload them to OBM
hi,
Christian Gagneraud schrieb:
Christian Gagneraud wrote:
Hi all,
I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some
data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server.
I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert
data
Christian Gagneraud schrieb:
Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
Hi,
Hi Sebastian,
about the conversion I cannot help you because I don't know the openbmap
format.
I talked with the openbmap owner about collaborating and got to the
result that it will only happen in the way that
Hello.
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:14, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
Christian Gagneraud schrieb:
Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
I've looked at opencellid.org website, and couldn't find any
information concerning the database, how can a user access the data
for example...
there is an api
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
Hello.
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:14, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
Christian Gagneraud schrieb:
Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
I've looked at opencellid.org website, and couldn't find any
information concerning the database, how can a user access the data
for example...
Hi,
Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
about the conversion I cannot help you because I don't know the openbmap
format.
This is most probably doable, just a matter of converting it. What
annoys me, is that ch will upload to oci, we will import oci data on
regular basis. If we import the data from
Hi,
Christian Gagneraud wrote:
I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some
data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server.
Thanks for the contributions!
I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert
data from CH to OBM
Hi,
Christian Gagneraud wrote:
Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
I just saw that openbmaps imports the opencellid data so there will be
the cellhunter data in in future.
That's a good point, but for example, yesterday evening i've uploaded
lot of data (about 5 hours sampling every 10 seconds,
Hi,
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
cellhunter ist not submitting to opencellid yet, because i have to
prepare the data for that but it will happen.
BTW, what will happen with the ARFCN informations then?
That is a very good point. As I stated in another email on this thread,
if we would upload
Hi,
thanks for the nice comments!
Yorick Moko wrote:
My personal preference goes out to openBmap,
because I think they combine quality and quantity;
quality: they log the most data (they are even working on TA)
quantity: they have all the cells of cellhunter and opencellid
For now, we
Hi,
about the conversion I cannot help you because I don't know the openbmap
format.
I talked with the openbmap owner about collaborating and got to the
result that it will only happen in the way that openbmap can use the
cellhunter data. I will not combine these two databases. There are some
At some stage I heard that Openbmap would save more information
compared to opencellid.
I don't know where's the problem but I really can't see why there has
to be three databases for the same stuff - I'd guess it's just because
of selfish people not willing to share and let others contribute or
Hello.
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 20:28, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
At some stage I heard that Openbmap would save more information
compared to opencellid.
I don't know where's the problem but I really can't see why there has
to be three databases for the same stuff - I'd guess it's just because
of
My personal preference goes out to openBmap,
because I think they combine quality and quantity;
quality: they log the most data (they are even working on TA)
quantity: they have all the cells of cellhunter and opencellid
I could be mistaken but from what i heard from onen (the creator of
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