Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2009-01-08 Thread arne anka
 No DFU capable USB device found
 

 Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel
 to the NAND?

not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you  
can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2009-01-08 Thread Sander van Grieken
 No DFU capable USB device found
 

 Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel
 to the NAND?

 not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you
 can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util.

dfu-util should autodetect all DFU capable devices, so if it doesn't find one 
it is
probably not DFU capable.

I noticed this because my usb sound card was brutely reset when I tried to 
flash the FR ;)

grtz,
Sander



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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2009-01-08 Thread Tarandeep Gill
Ok, I prepared the SD card with the boot loader and the kernel, and
set the SMDK6410 cfg switches/jumpers to boot it from SD. But nothing
shows up on the LCD. Can anyone (possibly Andy) tell me what should I
expect when the kernel boots? and how can I see the ash prompt in the
Busybox (as declared by andy)?

 - Tarandeep

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tarandeep Gill taran.i...@gmail.com wrote:
 What I guess is, dfu-util does not write to s3c6410 right now, thats
 why Andy has a small utility that transfers the bootloader and the
 kernel to a SD card. And I guess right now SMDK6410 (the demo board)
 can only be booted with the SD card. Am I correct here?

  - Tarandeep

 On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net wrote:
 No DFU capable USB device found
 

 Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel
 to the NAND?

 not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you
 can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util.

 dfu-util should autodetect all DFU capable devices, so if it doesn't find 
 one it is
 probably not DFU capable.

 I noticed this because my usb sound card was brutely reset when I tried to 
 flash the FR ;)

 grtz,
 Sander



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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2009-01-07 Thread Tarandeep Gill
Hi,

I have a SMDK6410 board. I have successfully compiled  dfu-util, Qi,
and Openmoko kernel on my Ubuntu machine.

The SMDK6410 is just as I got it from the company, I haven't modified
its firmware. I have connected it to my computer with a  USB cable,
that goes into the OTG USB host port on the board (This is how the
Windows DNW utility transfers a Win CE image to the board).

So, when I use dfu-util to try to burn the Qi image into it, I get the
following error:

r...@conectech-desktop# ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R
-D../qi/image/qi-s3c6410-master_84e38630c7135c1f.udfu
dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

No DFU capable USB device found


Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel
to the NAND?

I also have an Olimex OCD (that connects to the JTAG interface on the
board) , if it is needed anyway.

Thanks,

Tarandeep

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote:
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 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:35:40 +0100
 | Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz (PV) wrote:
 |
 | On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
 | arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de (AA)
 | wrote:
 |
 | I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 | stick with it for a while i hope.
 | how does it play with the dead battery issue?
 |
 | well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
 | around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.
 |
 |
 | seems like no luck with empty battery, but i hadn't have much time to
 | test. and, for some reason, i cannot Qi boot my SD located distro.
 | Results on NAND based distro give me today the same or almost longer
 | booting times. The original Qi from Andy was definitely faster.
 |
 | Someone mentioned sound issue... right, seems to be that way too - no
 | sound, but i haven't tested it thoroughly now.
 |
 | I had been using older qi from Andy and i am not sure, but think that
 | it didn't suffer these issues... well, let's wait, it's still fresh.

 The sound thing is a kernel issue I believe.  Up in stable-tracking
 branch of kernel the upstream init of the codec chip is done differently
 now and I think this is resolved.  But stable-tracking has some issues
 being worked on that stop it replacing stable right now.

 The empty battery thing on GTA02 A5 anyway is a hardware issue that is
 happening before the CPU is booted, so Qi can't directly affect it.  It
 can indirectly affect it though, when it does run it enables charging
 immediately.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread arne anka
 I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 stick with it for a while i hope.

how does it play with the dead battery issue?

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AA)
wrote:

 I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 stick with it for a while i hope.

how does it play with the dead battery issue?


well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.


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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:35:40 +0100
Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AA)
wrote:

 I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 stick with it for a while i hope.

how does it play with the dead battery issue?


well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.


seems like no luck with empty battery, but i hadn't have much time to
test. and, for some reason, i cannot Qi boot my SD located distro.
Results on NAND based distro give me today the same or almost longer
booting times. The original Qi from Andy was definitely faster.

Someone mentioned sound issue... right, seems to be that way too - no
sound, but i haven't tested it thoroughly now.

I had been using older qi from Andy and i am not sure, but think that
it didn't suffer these issues... well, let's wait, it's still fresh.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Pander
Does Qi have an issue tracker or does an existing issue tracker have a
label or a component to track Qi issues?

Petr Vanek wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:35:40 +0100
 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote:
 
 On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AA)
 wrote:

 I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 stick with it for a while i hope.
 how does it play with the dead battery issue?

 well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
 around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.

 
 seems like no luck with empty battery, but i hadn't have much time to
 test. and, for some reason, i cannot Qi boot my SD located distro.
 Results on NAND based distro give me today the same or almost longer
 booting times. The original Qi from Andy was definitely faster.
 
 Someone mentioned sound issue... right, seems to be that way too - no
 sound, but i haven't tested it thoroughly now.
 
 I had been using older qi from Andy and i am not sure, but think that
 it didn't suffer these issues... well, let's wait, it's still fresh.
 
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 http://biodynamika.cz
 
 
 
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Does Qi have an issue tracker or does an existing issue tracker have a
| label or a component to track Qi issues?

For now stick them under the somewhat ambiguous System Software thing
with Qi in the title.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:35:40 +0100
| Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote:
|
| On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
| arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AA)
| wrote:
|
| I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
| stick with it for a while i hope.
| how does it play with the dead battery issue?
|
| well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
| around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.
|
|
| seems like no luck with empty battery, but i hadn't have much time to
| test. and, for some reason, i cannot Qi boot my SD located distro.
| Results on NAND based distro give me today the same or almost longer
| booting times. The original Qi from Andy was definitely faster.
|
| Someone mentioned sound issue... right, seems to be that way too - no
| sound, but i haven't tested it thoroughly now.
|
| I had been using older qi from Andy and i am not sure, but think that
| it didn't suffer these issues... well, let's wait, it's still fresh.

The sound thing is a kernel issue I believe.  Up in stable-tracking
branch of kernel the upstream init of the codec chip is done differently
now and I think this is resolved.  But stable-tracking has some issues
being worked on that stop it replacing stable right now.

The empty battery thing on GTA02 A5 anyway is a hardware issue that is
happening before the CPU is booted, so Qi can't directly affect it.  It
can indirectly affect it though, when it does run it enables charging
immediately.

- -Andy
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Richy
./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D
http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c6410-andy_8589b40295653557.udfu

haven't tried that build yet.. There has been a thread a while ago. Don't be
afraid when your screen stays black for 10seconds or so while booting. Thats
normal.

It's definitely faster.

It will try to boot your kernel from sd-card and if there is none us the one
in NAND.

Have fun

Richard
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Richy
Sorry there, I meant:
wget http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c6410-andy_8589b40295653557.udfu

./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D
http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c6410-andy_8589b40295653557.udfu
qi-s3c6410-andy_8589b40295653557.udfu
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:58:34 -0600, Jason Cawood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Has anyone tried the new boot manager? or figured out how to install it?
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi
 
 
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Check the thread about 2.6.27 kernel.  I've been using qi off and on for a
couple weeks.

Plus side:
Faster.  approximately 30% faster, by the stopwatch, than uBoot.

Neg side: (note that these are of course fixable)
Sound doesn't currently work, period.  soundcard device not found.  With
SHR, FSO, 2008.x, Raster at least.
Often doesn't boot the first attempt after restoring power, needs second
'press and hold'
Often doesn't want to resume after suspend.

of note:
Backlight turns on right away, but screen remains blank until kernel load,
and kernel does NOT output gobs of text to the screen.
Will ALWAYS boot from uSD if first partition is ext2 and contains
/boot/uImage.bin, otherwise boots from NAND.
No splash screen. (not a problem, just be aware)

I altered /etc/init.d/banner to print an ascii openmoko logo, so there'd be
something more than 'please wait, booting' onscreen until X starts.

In short: Looks extremely promising, and once the soundcard bug is fixed I
will probably flash Qi and never look back.  Until soundcard and suspend
issues are addressed, I'd recommend it ONLY FOR TESTING.

j


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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Petr Vanek
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:58:34 -0600
Jason Cawood [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JC) wrote:

Has anyone tried the new boot manager? or figured out how to install
it?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi


I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
stick with it for a while i hope.

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