Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Are you trying to compute a long trip? no, just looking what navit is able to. i take it the starting point is my current location? then it would have been about 7 kilometers -- how long is that supposed to take? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
arne anka wrote: Are you trying to compute a long trip? no, just looking what navit is able to. i take it the starting point is my current location? then it would have been about 7 kilometers -- how long is that supposed to take? I calculated a route of about 6km and it only took some seconds to calculate the route. But this route is quite easy with mostly streets outside of a city. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
KaZeR wrote: Fox Mulder a écrit : KaZeR wrote: Lothar Behrens a écrit : It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? Moved, no, resized, yes. It's really weird, since we have the same device, we should have the same results :) I think i know which problem he means because i got the same. The screen layout is upwards like in the nice ascii picture and not in landscape mode. Then the 3 initial buttons are in three columns and the outer two gets out of the screen. It seems that the button arrangement is meant for landscape mode. I had to adjust the icon size to see all three. So it would be good if the arrangement of these buttons could be changed to a matrix of 2/3 cols and 2/3 rows. So i can use 2x3 or 3x2 for buttons layout in conjunction with normal or landscape screen orientation. Well, it's true that the gui is more meant to be used in landscape mode. I personally use omnewrotate, so i don't have to care about rotating the screen. What about using the trick that was posted a few weeks ago for a game, consisting of writing a wrapper script which rotates the script, then launch navit? About the matrix mode, i suggest that you post a feature request on the tracker : http://trac.navit-project.org I only have this problem because within debian the xglamo server isn't very good and the default framebuffer driver doesn't support screen rotation. Therefore at the moment i can only use navit in upscale mode. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Am Montag 15 Dezember 2008 20:23:40 schrieb Fox Mulder: KaZeR wrote: Fox Mulder a écrit : KaZeR wrote: Lothar Behrens a écrit : It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? Moved, no, resized, yes. It's really weird, since we have the same device, we should have the same results :) I think i know which problem he means because i got the same. The screen layout is upwards like in the nice ascii picture and not in landscape mode. Then the 3 initial buttons are in three columns and the outer two gets out of the screen. It seems that the button arrangement is meant for landscape mode. I had to adjust the icon size to see all three. So it would be good if the arrangement of these buttons could be changed to a matrix of 2/3 cols and 2/3 rows. So i can use 2x3 or 3x2 for buttons layout in conjunction with normal or landscape screen orientation. Well, it's true that the gui is more meant to be used in landscape mode. I personally use omnewrotate, so i don't have to care about rotating the screen. What about using the trick that was posted a few weeks ago for a game, consisting of writing a wrapper script which rotates the script, then launch navit? About the matrix mode, i suggest that you post a feature request on the tracker : http://trac.navit-project.org I only have this problem because within debian the xglamo server isn't very good and the default framebuffer driver doesn't support screen rotation. Therefore at the moment i can only use navit in upscale mode. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi, currently i'am working on an freerunner optimized version of navit. since the internal gui is available i love navit. and i want to bring something in. so i have realized, that there is some potential for speed and useablity optimization. i have changed the following things: - improve the calulation / drawaing speed of the internal gui - add some osd's - current speed - current street name - next street name - gpsd (! not file or demo) informations (the position, dimensions and font-size is configurable in the xml file) - improved keyboard buttons of the internal gui - add callback hooks to the gpsd plugin: - current speed - satellite stuff currently i hold the code in an git controlled repo (cloned via git-svn). So, if anyone can tell me where i easily can host this repo (with the navit svn repo from in background), please tell me. the code: dont be angry with me, this is my first c project!!! Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Christian Anke carcin...@gmx.net writes: currently i'am working on an freerunner optimized version of navit. since the internal gui is available i love navit. and i want to Are you going to send the fixes upstream? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Am Montag 15 Dezember 2008 21:32:53 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Christian Anke carcin...@gmx.net writes: currently i'am working on an freerunner optimized version of navit. since the internal gui is available i love navit. and i want to Are you going to send the fixes upstream? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community no, and i have no idear how to do this. i think i would be better if anyone test the changes befor i give them to upstream. or is the navit svn repo for testing such changes? Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Navit actions menu layout ?
no, and i have no idear how to do this. i think i would be better if anyone test the changes befor i give them to upstream. or is the navit svn repo for testing such changes? SVN repo is there for this kind of things. Any help is warmly welcomed :) It would be really sad if nice ideas or code would be kept apart. If you have an irc client handy, please join #navit on freenode, we'll meet there. If you don't, you can contact me by mail directly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Christian Anke carcin...@gmx.net writes: or is the navit svn repo for testing such changes? You better ask upstream directly in this case. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
2008/12/14 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: Hi, today I have installed the current release from navit and it looks much better. But I have a question about the layout of the buttons in the actions panel. How to change the layout from horizontal to vertical ? The problem: I do not see all of the buttons :-( Thanks Lothar Have you modified navit.xml? In this version there is an option to set the gui to a mode called internal, which is optimized for small screens. For the internal gui type you can also specify icon size. I believe the default opkg specifies internal, but doesn't set the icon size, though there is a sample line in the config file for the Neo. I don't like modifying the default /usr/share/navit/navit.xml, so I like to # mkdir ~/.navit # cp /usr/share/navit/navit.xml ~/.navit/ Edit that file, then search for internal. Around line 30 you'll see a sample setting for gui / for the Neo. Uncomment that, then comment out the other gui / element just below it. I also found this setting quite nice: a few more lines down there are number of osd / elements (On Screen Display), set zoom_in, zoom_out, and gui_internal_fullscreen to enabled and disable the rest. This will give you transparent zoom in and zoom out buttons in the bottom corners, and a fullscreen toggle in the upper left corner. In fullscreen mode and with this internal gui type, Navit is really looking like a consumer level map/navigation program on the Neo. Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Yorick Moko a écrit : i did that but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 navit navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'icons_xs' with value '60' vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=4 iochan=0x8a078 watch=0x2 navit:main:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml' and see no buttons (except for the zoom in and out button, but when i press the top of the screen i do get into a settings-screen) Using internal gui, it's intended to have no buttons when you are viewing the map, in order to use most space for the map. Touching the map should bring you a black screen with 3 buttons : actions, settings and tools, each one with an icon. Does that work for you? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Lothar Behrens a écrit : Hi, today I have installed the current release from navit and it looks much better. But I have a question about the layout of the buttons in the actions panel. How to change the layout from horizontal to vertical ? The problem: I do not see all of the buttons :-( Hi Lothar, Would you be able to make a screenshot of the problem? With the new default configuration it should look nice. I guess that you didn't updated navit.xml (probably not to loose your maps settings) and that you don't have uncommented the icon_xs size tag for example. Then you probably miss a few other enhancements :) Do you have a navit.xml in /home/root/.navit/ ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Yes, there is a + on bottom right, a - on bottom left, a compas on top left and a eta on top right as I activated them. The plain map display is mostly ok (the info picture in the bottom left may be a bit bigger to easier see it :-) Am 14.12.2008 um 14:59 schrieb KaZeR: Yorick Moko a écrit : i did that but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 navit navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'icons_xs' with value '60' vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=4 iochan=0x8a078 watch=0x2 navit:main:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml' and see no buttons (except for the zoom in and out button, but when i press the top of the screen i do get into a settings-screen) Using internal gui, it's intended to have no buttons when you are viewing the map, in order to use most space for the map. Touching the map should bring you a black screen with 3 buttons : actions, settings and tools, each one with an icon. Does that work for you? It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? BTW, I now have tested the navigation with my car. It works reasonable good. But some crashes - while speaking I think - stops navit to work. I need a simulation car. Could I create such a car by getting the calculated route ? I haven't activated tracking for my car definition in my last test :-( Thanks Lothar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Lothar Behrens a écrit : Yes, there is a + on bottom right, a - on bottom left, a compas on top left and a eta on top right as I activated them. The plain map display is mostly ok (the info picture in the bottom left may be a bit bigger to easier see it :-) It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? Moved, no, resized, yes. It's really weird, since we have the same device, we should have the same results :) BTW, I now have tested the navigation with my car. It works reasonable good. But some crashes - while speaking I think - stops navit to work. I need a simulation car. Could I create such a car by getting the calculated route ? Have a look at the demo vehicule in xml file. Disable the gpsd vehicule, and enable this one Once in navit, touch the map, action, your position, set at position Then you can use navit as usual : if you choose a destination, it will simulate the trip. I haven't activated tracking for my car definition in my last test :-( Ah. Logs could help debugging your crashes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Nathan Kinkade wrote: Have you modified navit.xml? In this version there is an option to set the gui to a mode called internal, which is optimized for small screens. For the internal gui type you can also specify icon size. I believe the default opkg specifies internal, but doesn't set the icon size, though there is a sample line in the config file for the Neo. I don't like modifying the default /usr/share/navit/navit.xml, so I like to # mkdir ~/.navit # cp /usr/share/navit/navit.xml ~/.navit/ Edit that file, then search for internal. Around line 30 you'll see a sample setting for gui / for the Neo. Uncomment that, then comment out the other gui / element just below it. I also found this setting quite nice: a few more lines down there are number of osd / elements (On Screen Display), set zoom_in, zoom_out, and gui_internal_fullscreen to enabled and disable the rest. This will give you transparent zoom in and zoom out buttons in the bottom corners, and a fullscreen toggle in the upper left corner. In fullscreen mode and with this internal gui type, Navit is really looking like a consumer level map/navigation program on the Neo. GUI Internal has some issues (read more at [1]) to me, so I prefer using the GTK gui without all but the menu bar. Those are is my navit.xml gui parameters: gui type=gtk menubar=1 toolbar=0 statusbar=0 / osd enabled=yes type=compass/ osd enabled=yes type=eta/ osd enabled=yes type=navigation/ osd enabled=yes type=button x=-96 y=-96 command=zoom_in src=zoom_in.xpm/ osd enabled=yes type=button x=0 y=-96 command=zoom_out src=zoom_out.xpm/ /gui It's quite good to me... Just two things: - The cursor should be bigger (mainly with a bolder outline) and its colors (I've set also color2) should be set to other values (more different to the main street colors). - The ETA and Navigation OSD boxes should be bigger too. It's quite hard to look at them while driving (I'm keeping the FR near my steering wheel but it's hard to read them anyway). Ah, I forgot to say that after this upgrade (I used the packages linked in the wiki before) navit seems to suggest me to turn too many times also if I'm still keeping the main way (using the Reiserplaner maps). [1] http://n2.nabble.com/navit-on-FR-report-tp1631491p1641083.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: It's quite good to me... Just two things: - The cursor should be bigger (mainly with a bolder outline) and its colors (I've set also color2) should be set to other values (more different to the main street colors). I've configured it a little... Using these vehicle settings the cursor is slightly better: vehicle name=Local GPS enabled=no active=1 source=gpsd://localhost gpsd_query=w+xj color=#ff color2=#00ff00 cursor w=26 h=26 itemgra circle color=#33 radius=30 width=15 coord x=0 y=0/ /circle /itemgra itemgra speed_range=-2 polyline color=#ff00ff width=20 coord x=0 y=0/ coord x=0 y=0/ /polyline /itemgra itemgra speed_range=3- polyline color=#ff width=5 coord x=-7 y=-10/ coord x=0 y=12/ coord x=7 y=-10/ /polyline /itemgra /cursor /vehicle -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
could you post your config? i am struggling unsuccessfully with the configuration of the navigation -- so far navit does nothing but to show where i am, how to make navigation working remains a mystery to me (the navit page and wiki are not helpful in this respect). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
KaZeR wrote: Lothar Behrens a écrit : It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? Moved, no, resized, yes. It's really weird, since we have the same device, we should have the same results :) I think i know which problem he means because i got the same. The screen layout is upwards like in the nice ascii picture and not in landscape mode. Then the 3 initial buttons are in three columns and the outer two gets out of the screen. It seems that the button arrangement is meant for landscape mode. I had to adjust the icon size to see all three. So it would be good if the arrangement of these buttons could be changed to a matrix of 2/3 cols and 2/3 rows. So i can use 2x3 or 3x2 for buttons layout in conjunction with normal or landscape screen orientation. Except for that little optical flaw the internal gui is really nice. Much better than the first navit version i tried months ago. And now that i know how to activate the map drag patch i could drag the map quite fast. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
arne anka ha scritto: could you post your config? Who? I? i am struggling unsuccessfully with the configuration of the navigation -- so far navit does nothing but to show where i am, how to make navigation working remains a mystery to me (the navit page and wiki are not helpful in this respect). For navigatin you can use the menu (tap on the map for setting the destination position) or the Route - Destination menu. When you're there write the country you're searching in (removing the ending space if you use a finger-keyboard that uses a dictionary), then the City (with commercial maps just one word; if it has more, put the more important), and then the Street. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
For navigatin you can use the menu (tap on the map for setting the destination position) or the Route - Destination menu. When you're there write the country you're searching in (removing the ending space if you use a finger-keyboard that uses a dictionary), then the City (with commercial maps just one word; if it has more, put the more important), and then the Street. been there, done that already. the destination window stays regardless which button i hit, no indication of any calculation or so, which would explain why the window does not disappear. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
arne anka wrote: For navigatin you can use the menu (tap on the map for setting the destination position) or the Route - Destination menu. When you're there write the country you're searching in (removing the ending space if you use a finger-keyboard that uses a dictionary), then the City (with commercial maps just one word; if it has more, put the more important), and then the Street. been there, done that already. the destination window stays regardless which button i hit, no indication of any calculation or so, which would explain why the window does not disappear. The destination window doesn't disappear even after selecting the desired destination for routing. I had to close the destination window by hand and in the main window it calculates the route as expected. Don't know if this window staying is a bug or a feature. ;) Only the way how to select the destination is sometimes a bit strange. I tried to route me from one city to another ~6km and it worked quite good. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Fox Mulder a écrit : KaZeR wrote: Lothar Behrens a écrit : It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? Moved, no, resized, yes. It's really weird, since we have the same device, we should have the same results :) I think i know which problem he means because i got the same. The screen layout is upwards like in the nice ascii picture and not in landscape mode. Then the 3 initial buttons are in three columns and the outer two gets out of the screen. It seems that the button arrangement is meant for landscape mode. I had to adjust the icon size to see all three. So it would be good if the arrangement of these buttons could be changed to a matrix of 2/3 cols and 2/3 rows. So i can use 2x3 or 3x2 for buttons layout in conjunction with normal or landscape screen orientation. Well, it's true that the gui is more meant to be used in landscape mode. I personally use omnewrotate, so i don't have to care about rotating the screen. What about using the trick that was posted a few weeks ago for a game, consisting of writing a wrapper script which rotates the script, then launch navit? About the matrix mode, i suggest that you post a feature request on the tracker : http://trac.navit-project.org Except for that little optical flaw the internal gui is really nice. Much better than the first navit version i tried months ago. And now that i know how to activate the map drag patch i could drag the map quite fast. :) Thank you :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
