Re: dead battery

2008-10-03 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 02.10.2008, 12:28 -0600 schrieb Angus Ainslie: > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Vince M. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > I ran down to Batteries Plus and picked up a Rayovac > replacement that fits. It doesn't come charged but has enough > charge to

Re: dead battery

2008-10-02 Thread Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson
discussion" > > Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:28:19 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver > Subject: Re: dead battery > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Vince M. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > I ran down to Batteries

Re: dead battery

2008-10-02 Thread Vince M. Clark
r 2, 2008 12:28:19 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Vince M. Clark < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I ran down to Batteries Plus and picked up a Rayovac replacement that fits. It doesn't come charged but has enough charge to at

Re: dead battery

2008-10-02 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Vince M. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I ran down to Batteries Plus and picked up a Rayovac replacement that fits. > It doesn't come charged but has enough charge to at least jump start my fr. > I put in the new battery, plugged in the usb cable, and was able t

Re: dead battery

2008-10-02 Thread Vince M. Clark
Thursday, October 2, 2008 7:27:59 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On 2008.10.01.13.05, Vince M. Clark wrote: | I've tried multiple times with no success. How about removing all SD and SIM cards, does that help? --Brock ___

Re: dead battery

2008-10-02 Thread Vince M. Clark
OK now you guys are just messing with me ;-) Nothing is working. I've taken everything out, tried all different combinations based on suggestions from the community. I'm sure at this point I have a totally dead battery and old u-boot. I'll get it jump started an

Re: dead battery

2008-10-02 Thread Brock
On 2008.10.01.13.05, Vince M. Clark wrote: | I've tried multiple times with no success. How about removing all SD and SIM cards, does that help? --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailma

Re: dead battery

2008-10-02 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Sarton O'Brien a écrit : > > The 'leave it overnight' scenario is the best one I encounter for a dead > battery ;) ... I think you'll be right. > > Sarton A good one is : - Hold down the aux key. - Put battery in. - Put usb in. - Hold down the power key.

Re: dead battery

2008-10-01 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 08:16 -0600, Vince M. Clark wrote: > Well, I'm out of options. I left my fr plugged into the trickle > charger overnight. Still won't boot. > Can you "jump start" it as per the wiki? Borrow (friend/partners/... phone) a nokia bl4c, bl5c or bl6c battery? Boot the FR using thi

Re: dead battery

2008-10-01 Thread Al Johnson
l boot, then remove and plug in the dead battery. If you think this method needs more detailed instructions you shouldn't be attempting it ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: dead battery

2008-10-01 Thread Linus Gasser
Vince M. Clark a écrit : > My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. I usually just take out the battery and try to start it with the charger plugged in (never tried with the USB). A combination of - letting it without power for 30 seconds (no battery and no charger) - swi

Re: dead battery

2008-10-01 Thread Vince M. Clark
I've tried multiple times with no success. - Original Message - From: "Tomas Riveros Schober" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 8:26:57 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead

Re: dead battery

2008-10-01 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
is dead? > > - Original Message - > From: "William Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" > > Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:01:52 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver > Subject: Re: dead battery > > The

Re: dead battery

2008-10-01 Thread Vince M. Clark
ginal Message - From: "William Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:01:52 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery These are my understandings from lots of reading and previous

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread William Kenworthy
These are my understandings from lots of reading and previous posts between myself and Andy Green and others on the subject - should all be in the archives. With 2007.2 I was hit one out of every 3 overnight suspends ending in a flat battery. At least with 2008.9 its rarer (but does happen :( Wi

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
> Vince, > When my battery died I plugged my phone into the OpenMoko supplied > charger, started it using NOR boot, leaving it at the boot menu until it > timed out (repeat that twice) then I was about to select boot from the > NOR menu and after a few extra seconds the phone booted. > > -

Re: Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone (was: Re: dead battery)

2008-09-30 Thread Dale Schumacher
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nokia devices (phones and stand-alone chargers) will not charge > non-Nokia batteries, most likely because they can't be sure they have > the correct charging parameters. > > Most after-market or no-name brands of Nokia-c

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Brock
On 2008.09.30.16.37, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: | When trying to get into NOR do you already have it plugged into your | charger? That is how I was able to finally get mine to boot, you only | need the actual OpenMoko charger until it starts up then you can use | whatever USB charger you pr

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread William Kenworthy
I suggest removing/replacing the battery briefly before plugging into the wall/charger - it seems GSM is the main culprit and it can "latch up" draining the battery. Resetting by removing power helps. (by default, the charger only accepts 100ma which is less than the FR draws in normal operation,

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 10:20:59 Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson wrote: > > Yes, I understand. I got the impression it was a design flaw and not > > something that could be addressed,  that's all. I could be completely > > wrong though. Maybe the phone can go into some kind of holding pattern > > w

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson
Sarton O'Brien wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:56:00 Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson wrote: > >> What I had meant is that I hope they find away to allow 1000mA charging >> while powered off so that you don't have to let it tricle charge for the >> entire night to power it on at only partial

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:56:00 Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson wrote: > What I had meant is that I hope they find away to allow 1000mA charging > while powered off so that you don't have to let it tricle charge for the > entire night to power it on at only partial power. Of all the phones > I've

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
Got it. Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Shawn \"prjktdtnt\" Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:58:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Vi

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson
ut an external charger or extra battery. > > - Original Message - > From: "Sarton O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:52:32 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver >

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
ra battery. - Original Message - From: "Sarton O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:52:32 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:45:08 Shawn

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson
Sarton O'Brien wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:45:08 Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson wrote: > >> Odd. Sadly that is the only way I was able to get mine going again, >> would be nice to see a patch that corrects the issue somehow so that >> people don't have to use workarounds in the future.

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:45:08 Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson wrote: > Odd. Sadly that is the only way I was able to get mine going again, > would be nice to see a patch that corrects the issue somehow so that > people don't have to use workarounds in the future. > -Shawn I don't think it is as

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:37:22 Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson wrote: > Vince M. Clark wrote: > > Thanks Shawn. I have tried NOR boot (holding aux button while pressing > > power button, then releasing aux button.) I cannot even get that far. > > I'm going to leave it plugged into the wall charg

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson
MAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:37:22 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver > Subject: Re: dead battery > > Vince M. Clark wrote: > > Thanks Shawn. I have tried NOR boot (holding aux button while

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:31:22 Vince M. Clark wrote: > Not that long on the wall charger. I'll leave it overnight and see what > happens. > > I have left in on the USB charger for a few hours with no luck. The 'leave it overnight' scenario is the best one I en

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
ko community discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:37:22 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Vince M. Clark wrote: > Thanks Shawn. I have tried NOR boot (holding aux button while pressing > power button, then releasing aux button.) I cannot even get that

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson
sion" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:31:17 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver > Subject: Re: dead battery > > Vince M. Clark wrote: > > My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. > > > > The following thread offered three possible solu

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
They are cheap but it looks like it may take a week or so to get it. - Original Message - From: "Shawn \"prjktdtnt\" Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:31:17 PM (GMT-0700)

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:27:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On Wednesday 01 October 2008 05:52:38 Vince M. Clark wrote: > I've tried that, as well as the wall charger. The battery is totally dead > and my fr will not boot, regardless of h

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn "prjktdtnt" Thompson
Vince M. Clark wrote: > My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. > > The following thread offered three possible solutions: > http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html > > D

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 05:52:38 Vince M. Clark wrote: > I've tried that, as well as the wall charger. The battery is totally dead > and my fr will not boot, regardless of how long I leave it plugged in. 6 - 8 hours on the wall charger is not unusual for my dead battery to start t

Re: Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone (was: Re: dead battery)

2008-09-30 Thread Nick Matteo
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly right. My understanding is this: > > Nokia devices (phones and stand-alone chargers) will not charge > non-Nokia batteries, most likely because they can't be sure they have > the correct charging parameters. > > Mo

Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone (was: Re: dead battery)

2008-09-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
> The battery usually lays in just like it does in the phone. The battery > will fit into the Nokia, but I'd be surprised if the Nokia agreed to charge > it, since it won't recognize it. Exactly right. My understanding is this: Nokia devices (phones and stand-alone chargers) will not charge no

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Joel Newkirk
l Newkirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:25:36 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver > Subject: Re: dead battery > > A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
uesday, September 30, 2008 1:52:02 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: > well whenever im hit with a "dead battery" i just plug the freerunner to > the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on &g

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Paul
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: > well whenever im hit with a "dead battery" i just plug the freerunner to > the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on > to NOR...or NAND whichever one works first > Well, that is a very simple solu

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:32:26 +0200 Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (P) wrote: >Joel Newkirk wrote: >> A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the >> job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few >> times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I d

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
well whenever im hit with a "dead battery" i just plug the freerunner to the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on to NOR...or NAND whichever one works first Paul escribió: > Joel Newkirk wrote: > >> A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
AIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:25:36 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I'

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
36 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Paul
Joel Newkirk wrote: > A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at > least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've > never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger > can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner batte

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Joel Newkirk
A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner battery or not, but left on the c

dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. The following thread offered three possible solutions: http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html Does anyone know where I can