Re: Apple Freeware (Re: Classic II Sound Problem)

2005-06-25 Thread Darren
Peter da Silva wrote: On Jun 24, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Darren wrote: It's pretty certain that they won't even support Classic on the Intel Macs at all. The emulators around now all work best on ppc, no surprise there - much faster. Classic support will suffer alittle, there is alot for

Was: Classic II Sound Problem, now: RagTime

2005-06-25 Thread Dr . O . M . Betz
snip So when your Classic breaks down, and you get to hear that the obsolete little thing can no longer be repaired, all you can do is buy a new one with OS-X. Okay so far, but what about your precious and duly backed up documents, all drawn up in RagTime, which hasn't been compatible with

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-24 Thread Darren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I agree, emulators are the way to go. Unfortunately Apple does not officially support them and in fact, if any of the various emulators out there actually took off commercially, I think Apple would crack down on them. Many of the developers are fearful of this and

Apple Freeware (Re: Classic II Sound Problem)

2005-06-24 Thread Peter da Silva
On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Darren wrote: I first tried ShapeShifter in 97 or 98, you know now it as Basilisk II. Shareware the eventually freeware for the amiga. I was under the impression that Basilisk II was based on the UAE (Unreliable Amiga Emulator) source tree. Apple should

Re: Apple Freeware (Re: Classic II Sound Problem)

2005-06-24 Thread Darren
Peter da Silva wrote: On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Darren wrote: I first tried ShapeShifter in 97 or 98, you know now it as Basilisk II. Shareware the eventually freeware for the amiga. I was under the impression that Basilisk II was based on the UAE (Unreliable Amiga Emulator) source

Re: Apple Freeware (Re: Classic II Sound Problem)

2005-06-24 Thread Peter da Silva
On Jun 24, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Darren wrote: It's pretty certain that they won't even support Classic on the Intel Macs at all. The emulators around now all work best on ppc, no surprise there - much faster. Classic support will suffer alittle, there is alot for apple to draw on and Rosetta

Re: Classic II Sound Problem/Emulators

2005-06-24 Thread woodwynlane
Nostalgia is that feeling you get when you sit down in front of your old Mac 512k and bask in the blue-ish glow of its 9 CRT whilst you run software from companies that don't exist anymore. Catching a glimpse of it out of the corner of your eye while working on your G4 wireless PowerBook and

Re: Apple Freeware (Re: Classic II Sound Problem)

2005-06-24 Thread woodwynlane
When did Apple release its pre-System 6.0.3 software -- and where is it!? All I see on the Apple website is 6.0.3 through 7.5.5 (excl. 7.1) and then updates only through OSX. This is what every member on these lists lusts after. From: Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter da Silva wrote: Free and

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-23 Thread Jan Warreyn
Scott Baret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try searching eBay for a Classic II logic board. Hopefully you'll find one and get your old Mac up and running again. If you are ever offered a bunch of Classics (or any old Mac), just take them all. Last summer I had to fix up some 5200s for donation. When

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-23 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Baret [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are ever offered a bunch of Classics (or any old Mac), just take them all. The University of Texas at Austin was one of Apple's largest single customers back in the early days. They sell surplus

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-23 Thread Jeff Walther
From: Jan Warreyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:14:40 +0200 The problem with this option being that all these parts are equally old... and if the built-in obsolescence theory holds true*, they should all succumb quite soon. Too bad that there is no way of ascertaining wich caps are

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-23 Thread woodwynlane
They say they've found perfectly readable newspapers in mint condition from the 1950s in the landfills of New York. So anything's possible ... Here's a horrible thought for a movie, what if Akihabara Japan was the worldwide graveyard for all the old abandoned Macs ... what if an electric surge

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-22 Thread Jan Warreyn
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:07 PM, John Niven wrote: Let's put this in perspective :-) We are talking about products that have lasted longer than their expected usage. Apart from a few nutters (and I admit to being one also) nobody wants to use a computer this old. Their life-work is done. Most

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-22 Thread Peter da Silva
Yet as we all know (though few buyers think of that beforehand), all good things must come to an end... So when your Classic breaks down, and you get to hear that the obsolete little thing can no longer be repaired, all you can do is buy a new one with OS-X. Okay so far, but what about your

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-22 Thread woodwynlane
Yes, I agree, emulators are the way to go. Unfortunately Apple does not officially support them and in fact, if any of the various emulators out there actually took off commercially, I think Apple would crack down on them. Many of the developers are fearful of this and for that reason a big deal

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-22 Thread Scott Baret
--- Jan Warreyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hold a slightly different view. Suppose you're one of those many one-person businesses, lured some 15 years ago into the purchase of a Classic... (not exactly a cheap-ticket item at the time!). I don't know about other parts of the world, but

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-18 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 6/17/05 1:45 PM, Ryan Underwood wrote: Are the Classic and SE/30 the only boards susceptible to SMD capacitor failure? I ask because I have a pile of failed Classic and SE/30 motherboards awaiting cleaning and capacitors - wouldn't it be just my luck that I happened to have the only

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-18 Thread woodwynlane
I'm no electrical engineer, but based on what I do know about it, here's my thoughts: The Classic II SE/30 are 68030 boards running at over 3x the speed of the other Compact Macs. Like all electronic parts, capacitors are susceptible to heat and use. The 68030 Macs ran much hotter than the

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-18 Thread John Niven
Let's put this in perspective :-) We are talking about products that have lasted longer than their expected usage. Apart from a few nutters (and I admit to being one also) nobody wants to use a computer this old. Their life-work is done. Most have already been unused (if not unloved) and in

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-18 Thread James Rice
There is a major problem in the PeeCee industry of capacitor failure within eighteen to twenty four months. I really expect that older Mac's will still be around in twenty years while current P4's will be totally extinct. John Niven wrote: Let's put this in perspective :-) We are

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-17 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:49:51 -0500 From: Ryan Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:13:46PM -0400, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: Are the Classic and SE/30 the only boards susceptible to SMD capacitor failure? I ask because I have a pile of failed Classic and SE/30

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-16 Thread Ryan Underwood
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:13:46PM -0400, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: A permanent fix would involve replacing the leaking capacitors on the logic board. This has been done successfully on the SE/30 which has similar problems. Are the Classic and SE/30 the only boards susceptible to SMD

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-16 Thread woodwynlane
No -- all of 'em have this issue -- a capacitor is a capacitor is a ... well you get the picture. Anything in a computer has a lifespan which is determined by manufacture specs and heat. Heat shortens the lifespan, so use = heat = shorter life. Same for humans. The more we eat the faster we

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-15 Thread Sean Billings
Oh, I don't know about that. Larry Pina's instructions for logic board repair are pretty straight forward. Get a copy of the Repair and Upgrade secrets for the Classic. I would agree the repairs tend to be more tedious as they often require replacing one or more chips which could be hard to

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-14 Thread Sean Billings
My Classic II has recently behaved pretty erratically, where sounds are concerned. On start-up it will often produce a crackling noise, much like a radio with bad speaker connections. The noise will typically disappear after some 10 to 20 minutes. At other times, it is completely mute; i.e. no

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-14 Thread woodwynlane
Oh, I don't know about that. Larry Pina's instructions for logic board repair are pretty straight forward. Get a copy of the Repair and Upgrade secrets for the Classic. I would agree the repairs tend to be more tedious as they often require replacing one or more chips which could be hard to

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-14 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 6/14/05 3:00 PM, Jan Warreyn wrote: My Classic II has recently behaved pretty erratically, where sounds are concerned. On start-up it will often produce a crackling noise, much like a radio with bad speaker connections. The noise will typically disappear after some 10 to 20 minutes. At

Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-13 Thread Jan Warreyn
My Classic II has recently behaved pretty erratically, where sounds are concerned. On start-up it will often produce a crackling noise, much like a radio with bad speaker connections. The noise will typically disappear after some 10 to 20 minutes. At other times, it is completely mute; i.e. no

Re: Classic II Sound Problem

2005-06-13 Thread Richard Clark
On 14/giu/05, at 00:32, Jan Warreyn wrote: My Classic II has recently behaved pretty erratically, where sounds are concerned. On start-up it will often produce a crackling noise, much like a radio with bad speaker connections. The noise will typically disappear after some 10 to 20