Peter da Silva wrote:
On Jun 24, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Darren wrote:
It's pretty certain that they won't even support Classic on the
Intel Macs at all.
The emulators around now all work best on ppc, no surprise there -
much faster. Classic support will suffer alittle, there is alot for
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So when your Classic breaks down, and you get
to hear that the obsolete little thing can no longer be repaired,
all you
can do is buy a new one with OS-X. Okay so far, but what about your
precious and duly backed up documents, all drawn up in RagTime,
which hasn't
been compatible with
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Yes, I agree, emulators are the way to go. Unfortunately Apple does not
officially support them and in fact, if any of the various emulators out
there actually took off commercially, I think Apple would crack down on
them. Many of the developers are fearful of this and
On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Darren wrote:
I first tried ShapeShifter in 97 or 98, you know now it as Basilisk
II. Shareware the eventually freeware for the amiga.
I was under the impression that Basilisk II was based on the UAE
(Unreliable Amiga Emulator) source tree.
Apple should
Peter da Silva wrote:
On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Darren wrote:
I first tried ShapeShifter in 97 or 98, you know now it as Basilisk
II. Shareware the eventually freeware for the amiga.
I was under the impression that Basilisk II was based on the UAE
(Unreliable Amiga Emulator) source
On Jun 24, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Darren wrote:
It's pretty certain that they won't even support Classic on the Intel
Macs at all.
The emulators around now all work best on ppc, no surprise there -
much faster. Classic support will suffer alittle, there is alot for
apple to draw on and Rosetta
Nostalgia is that feeling you get when you sit down in front of your old
Mac 512k and bask in the blue-ish glow of its 9 CRT whilst you run software
from companies that don't exist anymore. Catching a glimpse of it out of the
corner of your eye while working on your G4 wireless PowerBook and
When did Apple release its pre-System 6.0.3 software -- and where is it!?
All I see on the Apple website is 6.0.3 through 7.5.5 (excl. 7.1) and then
updates only through OSX. This is what every member on these lists lusts
after.
From: Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter da Silva wrote:
Free and
Scott Baret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try searching eBay for a Classic II logic board.
Hopefully you'll find one and get your old Mac up and
running again. If you are ever offered a bunch of Classics (or any
old Mac), just take them all. Last summer I had to fix
up some 5200s for donation. When
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Baret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you are ever offered a bunch of Classics (or any
old Mac), just take them all.
The University of Texas at Austin was one of Apple's largest single
customers back in the early days. They sell surplus
From: Jan Warreyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:14:40 +0200
The problem with this option being that all these parts are equally old...
and if the built-in obsolescence theory holds true*, they should all succumb
quite soon.
Too bad that there is no way of ascertaining wich caps are
They say they've found perfectly readable newspapers in mint condition from
the 1950s in the landfills of New York. So anything's possible ...
Here's a horrible thought for a movie, what if Akihabara Japan was the
worldwide graveyard for all the old abandoned Macs ... what if an electric
surge
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:07 PM, John Niven wrote:
Let's put this in perspective :-)
We are talking about products that have lasted longer than their expected
usage. Apart from a few nutters (and I admit to being one also) nobody
wants to use a computer this old. Their life-work is done. Most
Yet as we all know (though few buyers think of that beforehand), all good
things must come to an end... So when your Classic breaks down, and you get
to hear that the obsolete little thing can no longer be repaired, all you
can do is buy a new one with OS-X. Okay so far, but what about your
Yes, I agree, emulators are the way to go. Unfortunately Apple does not
officially support them and in fact, if any of the various emulators out
there actually took off commercially, I think Apple would crack down on
them. Many of the developers are fearful of this and for that reason a big
deal
--- Jan Warreyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hold a slightly different view. Suppose you're one
of those many
one-person businesses, lured some 15 years ago into
the purchase of a
Classic... (not exactly a cheap-ticket item at the
time!). I don't know
about other parts of the world, but
on 6/17/05 1:45 PM, Ryan Underwood wrote:
Are the Classic and SE/30 the only boards susceptible to SMD capacitor
failure? I ask because I have a pile of failed Classic and SE/30
motherboards awaiting cleaning and capacitors - wouldn't it be just my
luck that I happened to have the only
I'm no electrical engineer, but based on what I do know about it,
here's my thoughts: The Classic II SE/30 are 68030 boards running at
over 3x the speed of the other Compact Macs. Like all electronic parts,
capacitors are susceptible to heat and use. The 68030 Macs ran much
hotter than the
Let's put this in perspective :-)
We are talking about products that have lasted longer than their
expected usage. Apart from a few nutters (and I admit to being one
also) nobody wants to use a computer this old. Their life-work is done.
Most have already been unused (if not unloved) and in
There is a major problem in the PeeCee industry of capacitor failure
within eighteen to twenty four months. I really expect that older Mac's
will still be around in twenty years while current P4's will be totally
extinct.
John Niven wrote:
Let's put this in perspective :-)
We are
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:49:51 -0500
From: Ryan Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:13:46PM -0400, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote:
Are the Classic and SE/30 the only boards susceptible to SMD capacitor
failure? I ask because I have a pile of failed Classic and SE/30
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:13:46PM -0400, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote:
A permanent fix would involve replacing the leaking capacitors on the
logic board. This has been done successfully on the SE/30 which has
similar problems.
Are the Classic and SE/30 the only boards susceptible to SMD
No -- all of 'em have this issue -- a capacitor is a capacitor is a ... well
you get the picture. Anything in a computer has a lifespan which is
determined by manufacture specs and heat. Heat shortens the lifespan, so use
= heat = shorter life. Same for humans. The more we eat the faster we
Oh, I don't know about that. Larry Pina's instructions for logic board
repair are pretty straight forward. Get a copy of the Repair and
Upgrade secrets for the Classic. I would agree the repairs tend to be
more tedious as they often require replacing one or more chips which
could be hard to
My Classic II has recently behaved pretty erratically, where sounds are
concerned. On start-up it will often produce a crackling noise, much like a
radio with bad speaker connections. The noise will typically disappear after
some 10 to 20 minutes. At other times, it is completely mute; i.e. no
Oh, I don't know about that. Larry Pina's instructions for logic board
repair are pretty straight forward. Get a copy of the Repair and
Upgrade secrets for the Classic. I would agree the repairs tend to be
more tedious as they often require replacing one or more chips which
could be hard to
on 6/14/05 3:00 PM, Jan Warreyn wrote:
My Classic II has recently behaved pretty erratically, where sounds are
concerned. On start-up it will often produce a crackling noise, much like a
radio with bad speaker connections. The noise will typically disappear after
some 10 to 20 minutes. At
My Classic II has recently behaved pretty erratically, where sounds are
concerned. On start-up it will often produce a crackling noise, much like a
radio with bad speaker connections. The noise will typically disappear after
some 10 to 20 minutes. At other times, it is completely mute; i.e. no
On 14/giu/05, at 00:32, Jan Warreyn wrote:
My Classic II has recently behaved pretty erratically, where sounds
are concerned. On start-up it will often produce a crackling noise,
much like a radio with bad speaker connections. The noise will
typically disappear after some 10 to 20
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