Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
We will and we wont. Three things I see missing from the mix nowadays which made ATT so powerful. Manufacturing. None of the companies today not even the New ATT have manufacturing capabilities today. In the old days AT did all their own manufacturing. Not a p[hone sold, installed,used on

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-18 Thread Paul Meyer
Okay, hearing about the CERN astrophysicist who shot himself in the nose with a spear gun is one of the funniest (though perhaps I should be disturbed) stories in a long time. I do have to ask, what is that rap video? --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Arthur Poudrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Arthur

[CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Chris Dunford
He's the one with the zune?? I never knew he could squirt songs. Actually it's my son with the Zune. I'm perfectly happy with my old Sandisk. But since the subject came up, squirting is SO last week. The Zune software was updated on 9/16 and it's VERY slick. The Zune is now wi-fi enabled, so

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD

2008-09-18 Thread Larry Sacks
I keep forgetting... what's a WFB? Is it (the first 4 from Wikipedia): A. World Fellowship of Buddhists B. Warhammer Fantasy Battles C. The World Factbook D. William F. Buckley, Jr E. Whole Foods Bandit F. Wild Furry Beasts -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List

Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Larry Sacks
Tell me about it. In 2003, I bought a cell phone plan with ATT Wireless. They've since been bought out by Cingular who has since changed their name to ATT. When calling in for questions, I'm still in the habit of asking if the person is a blue or orange agent as the blue agents were from ATT

Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Larry Sacks
The solution may be as simple as to void all exclusive franchises and any legislation that keeps communities from entering the market to correct market inefficiencies that may cause them to get bypassed. Or... go running to ISPs that don't have limits and don't plan to use them. Which ones

Re: [CGUYS] Help! Update

2008-09-18 Thread Kelly J. Morris
John DeCarlo wrote: I don't think it will do what you want, either one. John - Everything worked as you laid it out for me. You were right: it didn't do what I wanted. I think that, as you indicated, the Linux folders were most likely overwritten by Windows folders of the same name. I did

[CGUYS] Lightning fast FIOS died again

2008-09-18 Thread gerald
Verizon has some major downtown hardware problems. couple months ago TV and telephone stayed, but internet died for 4 days. the tele and tel stayed on again, but internet died for 2 days. verizon is not too swift about it, they had 4 guys out here for better part of a day, and they could not

Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Constance Warner
Bell Labs. I am not sure what happened with Bell Labs but they were a premiere research arm at one time. I think someone has mentioned it here before but the transistor and some other stuff came out of Bell Labs. Does Bell Labs still exist? Depends on what you mean by Bell Labs. I saw a PBS

Re: [CGUYS] Help! Update

2008-09-18 Thread Fred Holmes
I'd have at least three backup media, and use them in rotation. Very important files would go on CD monthly, at least. The broader the coverage, the better. At 01:42 PM 9/18/2008, Kelly J. Morris wrote: BTW In the future, when I back up files to this external HD, wouldn't it be safer for me

Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That explains that. If it is part of Alcatel Lucent it is a dead horse. Western Electric did some of their own testing research (I visited the plant a lot as my dad worked there, and even I worked there one summer) They manufactured almost 100% of what went into the phone, even down to the

Re: [CGUYS] Help! Update

2008-09-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
BTW In the future, when I back up files to this external HD, wouldn't it be safer for me to partition it into two partitions - one FAT32 and the other ext3? Or maybe I'll just go back to using CDs and DVDs. You should be able to do it with just two directories. Point each of the backups at a

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD

2008-09-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
F, definitely F. I keep forgetting... what's a WFB? Is it (the first 4 from Wikipedia): A. World Fellowship of Buddhists B. Warhammer Fantasy Battles C. The World Factbook D. William F. Buckley, Jr E. Whole Foods Bandit F. Wild Furry Beasts

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Chris Dunford
Tom will just note that you compare the latest and greatest from MS to Apple's oldest model. Your having to resort to that to squeek out a favorable comparison speaks volumes. No, actually I compared it to the current iPod that sells for the same $249 price. That strikes you as unfair? That

Re: [CGUYS] 2nd MS GS Ad Out

2008-09-18 Thread David K Watson
On the heels of the second Gates and Seinfeld ad comes the news that Seinfeld is being dumped. Here is a cynical take on the matter from The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/18/seinfeld_campaign_over/http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/18/seinfeld_campaign_over/

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread mike
Oldest? It just came out with an updated model. Unless oldest is a week old. The zune 120 isn't going to be compared to a touch...and not to a nano. The 120 is a competitor to...you guessed it, Apple's 120 gig ipod. Mike On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
My dad was one of those manager-engineers, and managed an Industrial Engineering department. He helped make the lines run efficiently, but also well. Even for line workers pay was good. I made 5.50 an hour 30 years ago. That was as a summer college (well I was in grad school) student

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread mike
Misaligned Furry Beasts On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Larry Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MFBs? Maligned Furry Beasts? -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:15 PM To:

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Larry Sacks
The MFBs are all wondering why Apple is still selling that old design. The expectation is that it will soon be history. Maybe it's because a 32GB touch is $450 while a 120GB Zune or iPod classic is $250? At least price wise, I'll have to side with Tom. Sure, you can buy an iPod Touch 32gb

Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Regulated public utilities worked well. It limited the ability of utilities to just raise rates to increase returns, and limited them to request rate increases when they could prove increased costs. Regulated public utilities stopped working well when their regulators got politicized by the

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Chris Dunford
Do you think Amazon is charging over list because the unit is so popular? My mistake, I thought this had to do with features. Didn't realize it was a popularity contest. Apple notes that iPods with large drives do not sell in large numbers. So a 120GB Zune is missing the point (as MS tends

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Chris Dunford
So your statement should say, Maybe it's because a 32GB touch is $359.98 while a 120GB Zune or iPod classic is $249? Thanks, I'll accept your correction. The point remains valid... * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Why do the MFB's have a hard time making sense. People who would buy a zune would not in turn buy a touch instead. Or vice versa..different market. Not that hard to tell looking at specs or even pictures of the product. They would buy a player from SanDisk or Creative. There are valid choices

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
The MFBs are all wondering why Apple is still selling that old design. The expectation is that it will soon be history. Maybe it's because a 32GB touch is $450 while a 120GB Zune or iPod classic is $250? No it is because that feature set is no longer compelling. Ditto for the Zune's. It is

Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Not directly, but certainly indirectly. As a regulated utility ATT was a haven for manager-engineers. There was an emphasis on making things the right way. After the break up the reformed companies were flooded with MBAs who disdained technology, knowing that the best way to make money was to

Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes

2008-09-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Back then we were at the point where a regulated monopoly was no longer serving the public good. ATT and become ossified. We had a communications network that only allowed voice communication when the world was opening up to communication between machines. I'm building out as fast as I can.

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread mike
So apple is going to switch to just selling a touch? Odd since apple went after the zune design for the new nano. Mike On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MFBs are all wondering why Apple is still selling that old design. The expectation is that it

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Chris Dunford
Go ahead and scoff at the iPod for being merely popular, but achieving popularity is exactly the right measure. Popularity is the sum total of all the features weighted by their significance to the people manking [sic] the purchase. So, that would mean that Windows is far superior to MacOS.

Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]

2008-09-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Really. And when exactly was that? The current Zune has a better feature set than the current iPod Classic by any rational measure, which is all I said, and which you are apparently unable to contest sine you continue to dance around it. It doesn't matter what Apple is doing with the classic