Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-10 Thread Chris Dunford
To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many.  Has anyone ever seen one in use? Yeah, on TV shows and in movies, thanks to CGI and animation. Steve Well, it's not quite THAT bad. They do exist, and they are in use. I know that some hotels use them (Sheraton

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-10 Thread Paula Minor
The second market of aging baby boomers and the greatest generation may be even more significant in that it is mostly untapped. This market has been largely bypassed by the information age. The majority is off the grid and many are computer phobic. The PC or smart phone is not intuitive to

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
The possible windows pad is an advertising feint. Just like M$ announced the Surface when Apple's iPhone Buzz sucked all the oxygen out of the market before it's release the pad is a peice of advertising vaporware intended to keep the M$ name in circulation. To be fair there are a few surface'

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many.  Has anyone ever seen one in use? Yeah, on TV shows and in movies, thanks to CGI and animation. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread mike
I didn't even know MS was working on a pad like device...I know HP has the slate which is a finished product and due soon. There are a lot of devices coming out that are pad like devices, some more expensive than others. I seriously doubt when MS saw the iphone they said to themselves 'holy cow

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread tjpa
On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: The possible windows pad is an advertising feint. Just like M$ announced the Surface when Apple's iPhone Buzz sucked all the oxygen out of the market before it's release the pad is a peice of advertising vaporware intended to keep the M$

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes the local DMV uses touch screens for their Drivers tests, and one of the Big Orthopedic clinics uses windows touch screen laptops for their staff, medical records. Stewart At 06:47 AM 3/9/2010, you wrote: The possible windows pad is an advertising feint. Just like M$ announced the

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
MS has released a required set of hardware requirements for their phones and manufacturers are developing said phones at present. Lets be real Tom they may be slow but they are working on it. Not everyone may be a clueless as you are to reality. Stewart At 08:35 AM 3/9/2010, you wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Stewart Marshall
He is up tight because I said it is not reality yet until it hits the shelves. I say that about anything until it hits retail shelves. The Windows Mobile 7 phone is not reality until it hits store shelves. In my opinion the phone I most want to look at the Motorola Devour is not reality until

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Chris Dunford
Yes the local DMV uses touch screens for their Drivers tests, and one of the Big Orthopedic clinics uses windows touch screen laptops for their staff, medical records. Stewart Rev, I think the question was about surface platforms, which are different from simple touchscreens. They're

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread tjpa
On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:31 AM, mike wrote: I didn't even know MS was working on a pad like device... Actually two. One based on WINCE 6.5 and one on Zune. The two teams are reportedly spending a good bit of their resources on backstabbing one another.

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Stewart Marshall
There are some out there but I do not know of any. Frankly just look like a big toy to me. Stewart Rev, I think the question was about surface platforms, which are different from simple touchscreens. They're typically big, expensive tables with touch-sensitive screens that cover most of

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread mike
Another typical ms blunder. Stand in a circle and develop software..hope to take out your competition...another ms software group. On Mar 9, 2010 9:36 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:31 AM, mike wrote: I didn't even know MS was working on a pad like device Actually two.

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many.  Has anyone ever seen one in use? Yeah, on TV shows and in movies, thanks to CGI and

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Yes, M$ seems to announce work on a new me-too project every time Apple starts releasing a new product. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- MS has released a required set of hardware requirements for their phones and manufacturers are developing said phones at present. Lets be

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread tjpa
On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Reid Katan wrote: You mean, like that iPad commercial tat was posted here the other day? I mean seriously, *nobody* holds something *that* still. Especially when they're poking at it. It doesn't move. It looks like two hands (mostly one though) poking at a green

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad COMMERCIALS

2010-03-09 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting tjpa t...@tjpa.com: See. As I wrote: true believers believe the iPad doesn't exist. Troll, er, Tom, try to follow along. . . On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many. Has anyone ever seen one in use?

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Stewart Marshall
It exists, but not in reality yet. The Ipads in the commercials are prototype editions, not consumer versions. They have to be prototype as the commercials had to be in the bag a month ago. Let us see the consumer product and then we can comment. Stewart At 11:53 AM 3/9/2010, you wrote: On

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes the local DMV uses touch screens for their Drivers tests, and one of the Big Orthopedic clinics uses windows touch screen laptops for their staff, medical records. But that sure isn't the surface. I

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Stewart Marshall He is up tight because I said it is not reality yet until it hits the shelves. I thought the MS slate/pad/tablet thingie was called the Courier, last I heard it was very much in the prototype stage. I don't know if they're going to run Windows Mobile 7 or Windows 7 on it. I

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread tjpa
On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: Yes but it still sucks, Just like the iPod and iPhone did. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map,

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread mike
Well it's possible this could be less of a hit...it is just a big ipod touch, they didn't add anything to it. This is sort of a no brainer product, I'm more intersted what Apple will do with the iPhone for it's next release, I think it's time they do something since it's remained unchanged since

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread tjpa
On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:36 PM, tjpa wrote: Just like the iPod and iPhone did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDu9qfKpz44feature=youtu.be * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread mike
Cool..big ipod touch... On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:59 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:36 PM, tjpa wrote: Just like the iPod and iPhone did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDu9qfKpz44feature=youtu.be

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread tjpa
On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:57 PM, mike wrote: I think it's time they do something since it's remained unchanged since it came out and they have MS and Android both releasing strong products. M$ product is an animation, you can't drive nails with it. Can I pay for it with virtual money?

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread mike
No idea what you are talking about. On Mar 8, 2010 1:18 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:57 PM, mike wrote: I think it's time they do something since it's remained... M$ product is an animation, you can't drive nails with it. Can I pay for it with virtual money?

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Windows 7 for Mobile for phones is not a released product yet. Until it is released and until someone can actually put it through it paces it is not reality. Sort of like the Ipad right now. Stewart At 02:20 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: No idea what you are talking about. On Mar 8, 2010 1:18

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread tjpa
On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious.

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Until it hits retail shelves it does not exist. We have only seen Jobs handle it and some after time playing. Same with Windows 7 phone. On April 3 we will see the whole story when it hits the shelves. Stewart At 05:51 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread mike
So what is fictitious that you are talking about? On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale,

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Hardware is different than software. until a piece of hardware hits the retail shelves it is not real, as it can be tweaked played with etc. Software is similar but usually they soak the ground with betas etc. MS is working with phone manufacturers to make sure they meet certain hardware

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread mike
The new windows phone has been seen, touched and played with much like the ipad was at the announcement. MS just doesn't have the press drugged up on Apple juice. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Hardware is different than software.

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
At this point they are prototype phones. No real shelf models. I saw the hardware requirements and it should be powerful platform. I am intrigued, a neat interface, but until it is reality it is not a real product. Stewart At 08:41 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: The new windows phone has been

[CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-07 Thread tjp
http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?doc_id=188456f_src=ieupdate One of the big attractions of the iPod was that it was immediately obvious how to work it. Other MP3 players can still leave one scratching ones head over how to operate them. This article predicts a similar huge

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-07 Thread Eric S. Sande
Yes but it still sucks, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-07 Thread mike
Yeah but, how do you really feel? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net wrote: Yes but it still sucks, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,