Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2010-01-02 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Continue to hold down the command key and you can tab through the bar. That requires only one hand. t.piwowar wrote: On Jan 1, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: Simply place the cursor over the icon of the program you want in the command-tab bar. It causes it to be selected without

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2010-01-02 Thread tjpa
On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: Continue to hold down the command key and you can tab through the bar. That requires only one hand. No doubt, but the point is getting the job done quickly. Tabbing through a list of a dozen icons, whose position constantly shuffles,

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2010-01-02 Thread mike
Not for any real reason...just because Tom hates windows... On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:56 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: Continue to hold down the command key and you can tab through the bar. That requires only one hand. No doubt, but

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2010-01-02 Thread katan
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:17:43 -0500, b_s-wilk wrote: YMMV. Try the locations and see which works best for you, but consider how each program works. Does this help? Yes. It does. Thanks. -- R:\katan - SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2010-01-01 Thread b_s-wilk
YMMV. Try the locations and see which works best for you, but consider how each program works. Does this help? Excellent! I propose that whether one keeps the Dock visible or not depends on one's style of working. I often have many apps open at once and frequently switch among them. I usually

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2010-01-01 Thread t.piwowar
On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:11 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I use the Dock to open programs, to set which apps are loaded at startup, and to get to the home folder for the app without switching to the Finder and digging for it. I rarely use it for switching apps. Depends on how many apps you have open.

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2010-01-01 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 4:58 PM -0500 1/1/10, t.piwowar wrote: On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:11 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I use the Dock to open programs, to set which apps are loaded at startup, and to get to the home folder for the app without switching to the Finder and digging for it. I rarely use it for switching apps.

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-31 Thread b_s-wilk
I'm not trying to arm-chair anything. Inquiring minds want to know. What are the obvious improvements? Go try it. Everyone I showed it to, except certain folks on this list, have found it better. What's your evidence? Never mind. Maybe Betty will give an actual answer. Hi. Now that I'm

Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-26 Thread db
That's as good an explanation as I have heard. It makes sense. Too bad Jobs doesn't have a wife with GUI design skills to give him a boot in the butt occasionally ... a little personal democracy :) db mike wrote: Well Apple is not a democracy, which is it's greatest strength

Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-24 Thread tjpa
On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:03 PM, db wrote: Or they might just stick with their home screen like they have stuck with OSX's surprisingly limited functionality finder/dock system for such a long time ... As I said I had to conclude that your goal was something other than solving a problem.

Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-24 Thread mike
I expected this...you find the dock useful because it contains information at a glance...but expecting that on the iPhone home screen is anti apple...uh right. On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:03 PM, db wrote: Or they might just stick with their

Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar
On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:46 PM, mike wrote: I expected this...you find the dock useful because it contains information at a glance...but expecting that on the iPhone home screen is anti apple...uh right. One of the reasons for the failure of WINCE and the triumph of iPhone is that Apple was

Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-23 Thread db
Or they might just stick with their home screen like they have stuck with OSX's surprisingly limited functionality finder/dock system for such a long time ... Like Apple computers there is more to the iPhone then their Home screen. The collective good will make particular weaknesses

Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-23 Thread mike
Well Apple is not a democracy, which is it's greatest strength and weakness. It comes down to the single vision of one man and sometimes that will have a bad effect, luckily for Apple it usually has a very good effect, but does make change hard if weaknesses are found and Jobs doesn't see them as

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com: On Dec 21, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Reid Katan wrote: But Tom and Betty both say the Dock *works better* (not has more functions, but is more user friendly) on the side. And IIRC, Tom intimated that no serious user would leave the Dock on the bottom. So, what

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread tjpa
On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Reid Katan wrote: I'm not trying to arm-chair anything. Inquiring minds want to know. What are the obvious improvements? Go try it. Everyone I showed it to, except certain folks on this list, have found it better. What's your evidence?

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting tjpa t...@tjpa.com: On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Reid Katan wrote: I'm not trying to arm-chair anything. Inquiring minds want to know. What are the obvious improvements? Go try it. Everyone I showed it to, except certain folks on this list, have found it better. What's your

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread mike
What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best color? On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:36 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Reid Katan wrote: I'm not trying to arm-chair anything. Inquiring minds want to know. What are the obvious improvements?

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:58 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best color? Plaid. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread tjpa
On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:58 AM, mike wrote: What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best color? Just like I figured. You don't know much about interface design. I might as well waste my time discussing French cuisine with somebody who thinks McDonalds and Pizza

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread mike
Votre arrogance m'étonne même parfois. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:58 AM, mike wrote: What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best color? Just like I figured. You don't know much about interface design. I

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread Stewart Marshall
Entshuldigung Sie bitte? Stewart At 11:54 AM 12/22/2009, you wrote: Votre arrogance m'étonne même parfois. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:58 AM, mike wrote: What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread db
Moi aussi! mike wrote: Votre arrogance m'étonne même parfois. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:58 AM, mike wrote: What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best color? Just like I figured. You

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread Allen Firstenberg
Red. No, blue! On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:58 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best color? On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:36 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Reid Katan wrote: I'm not trying to

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread Allen Firstenberg
Well, I'll bite, in the interest of trying to have an actual discussion. I've always moved my Windows (XP and down, anyway, never used Vista on up) task bar to the left and set it to auto-hide. Always responded to moving the mouse there or hitting the Windows key if I needed it, and stayed out

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread mike
Brilliant! On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Allen Firstenberg cg...@addventure.comwrote: Red. No, blue! On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:58 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best color? On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:36 AM,

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread db
Tom, Betty What are the advantages you find in putting the Dock/ Taskbar to the left? db t.piwowar wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Reid Katan wrote: But Tom and Betty both say the Dock *works better* (not has more functions, but is more user friendly) on the side. And IIRC, Tom

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread tjpa
On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Allen Firstenberg wrote: When I first started using OSX, I tried moving the dock around and trying different hide settings and never quite liked it. Lots of my windows put stuff on the left, and having the dock there would cover it. Setting it to auto hide

[CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-22 Thread mike
I found it annoying to hide the dock myself, although I found it worked just fine at the bottom. I always made it as small as I could and still see it and let it grow rather large when I wanted it. It's interesting to note about showing you information in the dock, this is one of the complaints

[CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-21 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: That's just it, this is all opinion, not rules. Heavy user could be someone that has dozens of apps open all the time, or it could be someone who edits video 12 hours a day. People learn best what suits them, but if they don't know the parameters of the area in

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-21 Thread t.piwowar
On Dec 21, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Reid Katan wrote: But Tom and Betty both say the Dock *works better* (not has more functions, but is more user friendly) on the side. And IIRC, Tom intimated that no serious user would leave the Dock on the bottom. So, what up widdat. You can arm-chair

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-21 Thread Tony B
The bottom is getting crowded, so I have my ObjectDock on the left side. But Tom and Betty both say the Dock *works better* (not has more functions, but is more user friendly) on the side. And IIRC, Tom intimated that no serious user would leave the Dock on the bottom. So, what up widdat.

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-21 Thread mike
More passing off opinion as if it's fact. Self importance doesn't make many points. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:10 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Reid Katan wrote: But Tom and Betty both say the Dock *works better* (not has more functions, but is more user

Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-21 Thread mike
This seems very odd...the bottoms on all my screens..and all imacs for that matter...are all wider than they are tall. Why would the dock fit in less room than more? On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: The bottom is getting crowded, so I have my ObjectDock on the