On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Ya got an url for those mythical beasts, cheapest mac I've seen around
there
was the 599 mac mini...
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Hey, guys. You don't need to exaggerate to make your
Ah, he said new...spose those are the 'new' old models.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:04 AM, John Duncan Yoyo
johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Ya got an url for those mythical beasts, cheapest mac I've seen around
there
was the 599
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:45 PM, betty b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
I looked at the video. Lauren didn't go into the Apple Store at all. She
walked to the door, turned around and walked away. Same guy is walking past
in both scenes.
An astute observation. You are absolutely correct. The ad
I have Acronis Home 11 edition set to do automatic backups, but the file
sizes are growing enormously. I cannot find any instructions for
eliminating older files without starting the whole configuration over
again. Used to be able to do that with Retrospect. Anyone know if it can
be done?
She's an actress...it's...um...fake. It's not real. It's just an advert
:) It's kinda like justin long isn't *really* a mac...he's actually a human
being POSING as a mac.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:47 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:45 PM, betty
I made the mistake of recommending Acronis to a friend a year ago and
it couldn't delete old backups then. Absolutely unbelievable that they
would expect users to go in manually and delete files!
Anyway, we got Norton Ghost working for him. Easily allows you to keep
x backup points.
A different
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, he said new...spose those are the 'new' old models.
Well new to him. The refurbs are even cheaper.
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I could see maybe getting one if it was 250 or 299...
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:33 AM, John Duncan Yoyo
johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, he said new...spose those are the 'new' old models.
Well new to him. The refurbs are
An astute observation. You are absolutely correct. The ad agency
did some editing to make it appear as though she entered the store,
but failed to notice that in their attempt to deceive the viewer, they
deceived themselves instead.
For heavens' sake, everyone, this isn't a documentary,
Ah, he said new...spose those are the 'new' old models.
Well new to him. The refurbs are even cheaper.
But irrelevant to the ads, of course, as all must agree. A Mac Mini is not a
big screen laptop. Lauren can't haul it back and forth to her busboy classes
at the community college.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:14 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
She's an actress...it's...um...fake. It's not real. It's just an advert
:) It's kinda like justin long isn't *really* a mac...he's actually a human
being POSING as a mac.
Well, in the ad she says she went into the store and
Blah...the bald guy was just wandering around out front...took me about 22
seconds last time I was in an apple store to see I didn't want to spend 2k
on a laptop...and literally another 1.2 minutes to buy my new ipod nano.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:55 AM, phartz...@gmail.com
It said it will take 14 hours. That was at 2:00 this afternoon. I'm
waiting...still waiting...
I'm astonished. Migration Assistant is a solid product and quite fast. I
typically migrate a heavily loaded Mac in 10 to 15 minutes, but that is
using FireWire. Ethernet is going to be slow and 14
How is Silverlight BETTER than Flash or MPEG that both work on almost
all computers?
It's from Microsoft (I thought you knew that). That makes it is obviously
better. It is also better because it won't have all the incompatability
problems that the other products will soon have.
No obvious deception there as opposed to the
MS ad. FWIW, ads are not SUPPOSED to be
intentionally deceptive
As I noted earlier, the Mac ad showed MS spending ALL of its money marketing
Vista and NONE of it improving Vista. This is obviously not true. So, the
Mac ad was intentionally
I looked at the video. Lauren didn't go into the Apple Store at all. She
walked to the door, turned around and walked away. Same guy is walking past
in both scenes.
Try this: Dress up real nice and have your hair done. Walk up to the
counter at an Apple Store and whisper furtively There are
Seriously? You thought the commercial was real?
See. Even Jeff won't insist that it was the real deal. It's as phony as
an MS exec giving a deposition.
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Ya got an url for those mythical beasts, cheapest mac I've seen around there
was the 599 mac mini...
I assumed that saying Apple's online store would be a sufficient clue.
For the WFBs I guess it is necessary to say http://store.apple.com
Since then Amazon has the same model for a bit less:
It was an ADVERTISEMENT.
And anything goes in the ole USA. In Britain the nasty old government
will actually order advertisers to stop running deceptive ads. Probably
happens in a lot of other civilized countries too.
But in the good ole USA...
MS didn't actually spend ALL of its money on marketing Vista rather
than improving it,
Are you sure? It really do think that one is true.
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Should be real easy for the apple guys to show her the door as they are
geniuses.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
I looked at the video. Lauren didn't go into the Apple Store at all. She
walked to the door, turned around and walked away. Same guy is walking
You said new. I took that to mean...uh...new. Not old models. Somehow I
knew you would never give up the url.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Ya got an url for those mythical beasts, cheapest mac I've seen around
there
was the 599 mac mini...
I assumed
So the brits stopped the Apple ads?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
It was an ADVERTISEMENT.
And anything goes in the ole USA. In Britain the nasty old government
will actually order advertisers to stop running deceptive ads. Probably
happens in a lot of
I could see maybe getting one if it was 250 or 299...
Actually no. Used Macs hold their value for a long time. To pay that
little you would be buying a scratched up G4. Three generations of
processors behind this one. The $499 price is lower than the price
second-hand dealers were asking for
All advertising is deceptive in nature.
It is trying tog et you to go out and buy or vote or something for
their advantage.
They will package it up and make it look much better, sounds much
better, work much better than it actually does.
Any one bought the Shamwow? Or the Ginsu knives?
MS didn't actually spend ALL of its money on marketing Vista rather
than improving it,
Are you sure? It really do think that one is true.
Oh, please.
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It was an ADVERTISEMENT.
And anything goes in the ole USA. In Britain the nasty old government
will actually order advertisers to stop running deceptive ads. Probably
happens in a lot of other civilized countries too.
I thought you guys were joking.
You fanbois are seriously trying to say
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Blah...the bald guy was just wandering around out front...took me about 22
seconds last time I was in an apple store to see I didn't want to spend 2k
on a laptop
Sure. There are plenty of folks who would NEVER spend more than
All advertising is deceptive in nature.
Minister, have you capitulated to evil?
I would give up my Mac first.
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So the brits stopped the Apple ads?
Several. I don't remember which ones. I think they were mostly picking on
iTunes. On the other hand the EU fined MS something like $750,000,000.
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You fanbois are seriously trying to say that the ad is deceptive on some
significant level because the girl may not have physically walked into the
Apple store--which you can't even prove--despite the fact that its product
claims are accurate?
So you didn't know that the store was running a
I thought you guys were joking.
You fanbois are seriously trying to say that the ad is deceptive on
some
significant level because the girl may not have physically walked into
the
Apple store--which you can't even prove--despite the fact that its
product
claims are accurate? You actually
I can see going after ms in some cases...using the monopoly power of windows
to force in IE...but unless I'm recollecting incorrectly itunes and ipods
have *always* been tied together even when they had no market share. And
since they now have more market share, has apple ever actually used this
Advertising by its very nature is to sell you something. They will
use whatever means to get you to buy it.
I like commercials as they are very fascinating commentaries on what
matters to us, and what we really care about.
Have a tax problem call ??
Having erection problems just pop
You know they were running a closeout on mid/high range laptops being sold
for 1k or less?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
You fanbois are seriously trying to say that the ad is deceptive on some
significant level because the girl may not have physically
Those Windows haters over at PCMagazine weigh in with...
Fact-checking Microsoft's Latest Anti-Apple Ads
www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344017,00.asp
They point out that the DV7 she bought was an old laptop.
I guess one should not go to Best Buy looking for the latest in
technology.
Someone
No idea why PCMAG is playing the game...but HP and CNET report that laptop
came out on February 1st. Hardly old especially considering how few times
Apple refreshes their lineup.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Those Windows haters over at PCMagazine weigh
You know they were running a closeout on mid/high range laptops being sold
for 1k or less?
You didn't know? Well no wonder you are a WFB. So very, very sad.
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So the brits stopped the Apple ads?
Several. I don't remember which ones. I think they were mostly
picking on iTunes. On the other hand the EU fined MS something
like $750,000,000.
Oh, I never realized that that had to do with deceptive advertising.
I can see going after ms in some cases...using the monopoly power of windows
to force in IE...but unless I'm recollecting incorrectly itunes and ipods
have *always* been tied together even when they had no market share. And
since they now have more market share, has apple ever actually used this
Those Windows haters over at PCMagazine weigh in with...
Fact-checking Microsoft's Latest Anti-Apple Ads
www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344017,00.asp
They point out that the DV7 she bought was an old laptop.
I guess one should not go to Best Buy looking for the latest in
technology.
Advertising by its very nature is to sell you something. They will
use whatever means to get you to buy it.
The nature of advertising is to inform the public of the existance and
benefits of your product. Anything beyond that is for the morally
handicapped.
I admit that using humor to inform
link?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
You know they were running a closeout on mid/high range laptops being sold
for 1k or less?
You didn't know? Well no wonder you are a WFB. So very, very sad.
Completely ignore the email to take more weird shots at your imaginary
WFB's.
One quick logic problem..well one of the logic problems...why would your
WFB's put apple software on their machines just to complain about it?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
I can
Those Windows haters over at PCMagazine weigh in with...
Fact-checking Microsoft's Latest Anti-Apple Ads
www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344017,00.asp
Yep, MS hit this one out the park. The Macarazzi are going apoplectic!
Next, they'll be whining that you can't hit a kid with glasses or
If I have to get to work and need a car to do so, do I quit my job till I
can afford 40k car or get a car that will get me to work, work hard, get
promoted and then when I can afford it, I'll go after that 40k car.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
She didn't
She didn't walk into the store, she's an actress, she bought a crappy
laptop, you can get a headless Mac Mini for $500, etc, etc. All dancing
around the ONE pertinent fact: you can't buy a 17 Mac laptop for under
$1,000. I'm wondering how much more of HEY! LOOK OVER THERE! the Mac camp
can come
link?
No link. The sale is over. You snooze you looze.
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One quick logic problem..well one of the logic problems...why would your
WFB's put apple software on their machines just to complain about it?
I think they secretly like it.
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I can barely afford 20K cars let alone a 40K car.
I usually wait till they are used and them get them.
Stewart
At 01:23 PM 3/28/2009, you wrote:
If I have to get to work and need a car to do so, do I quit my job till I
can afford 40k car or get a car that will get me to work, work hard, get
Those Windows haters over at PCMagazine weigh in with...
Fact-checking Microsoft's Latest Anti-Apple Ads
www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344017,00.asp
The Go to: Everything Apple guy? Do you have any information that isn't
solely fanboi authored?
They point out that the DV7 she bought was an
Absolutely true. To repeat an earlier post: If I'm given $15,000 and I
can't buy a BMW, but I can buy a Kia then the Kia is obviously better?
Oh, buy a BMW, definitely. Because, unless you drive like a self-absorbed
tool and piss off every driver around you for the last 25 miles, when you
pull
To repeat an earlier post: If I'm given $15,000 and
I can't buy a BMW, but I can buy a Kia then the Kia
is obviously better?
Excellent job of totally missing the point of the ad.
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She didn't walk into the store, she's an actress, she bought
a crappy laptop, you can get a headless Mac Mini for $500, etc,
etc. All dancing daround the ONE pertinent fact: you can't
buy a 17 Mac laptop for under $1,000. I'm wondering how much
more of HEY! LOOK OVER THERE! the Mac
Shocking you have no proof of Apple selling their midrange line for 1k or
under...
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
link?
No link. The sale is over. You snooze you looze.
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I just bought a 13 inch Macbook (the 2.4GHz model). The Macbook came with
2GB of DDR3 Memory. I need to run a few Windows programs so I guess I will
need VMWare Fusion or Parallels. Could you guys please let me know if one of
those programs would be best and if I will need to buy some more RAM.
Shocking you have no proof of Apple selling their midrange line for 1k or
under...
It's an ADVERTISEMENT. Ha ha ha!
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I just bought a 13 inch Macbook (the 2.4GHz model).
Lauren thinks you are not cool. Are you feeling deprived?
I need to run a few Windows programs so I guess I will
need VMWare Fusion or Parallels.
I checked the reviews on Amazon and Fusion had better reviews, but the Mac
Genius at the Mac
Ah, right. So this was you helping Apple 'mislead' us into thinking they
actually had the hardware.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Shocking you have no proof of Apple selling their midrange line for 1k or
under...
It's an ADVERTISEMENT. Ha ha ha!
What secure info are you talking about?
Are you going to put your SSN on there?
I can't think of anything on a resume which isn't in the public domain
anyway.
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At 1:45 PM -0600 3/28/09, Fred Jones wrote:
I just bought a 13 inch Macbook (the 2.4GHz model). The Macbook came
with 2GB of DDR3 Memory. I need to run a few Windows programs so I
guess I will need VMWare Fusion or Parallels. Could you guys please
let me know if one of those programs would be
What secure info are you talking about?
Perhaps he is asking if somebody could hack his web page to make his
resume look bad?
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I like VirtualBox from Sun. It works really well, and it's FREE!
http://virtualbox.org
Oh yes that one. I don't know anybody using it. MacWorld's review says it
is slow with OpenGL stuff and has an ugly interface. You centainly won't
be losing anything by testing it. Parallels has a 30-day demo
Thanks to you all! I am navigating in my new computer... but one last
question... I agreed with the computer shop to install Windows XP Home. Now I
am having doubts. It is Brazilian Portuguese.
My doubts?
Will I be able to install Windows Vista or 7 on the top of it? Or I will have
to start
At this point it is anybody's guess.
usually the upgrade path is smooth.
Stewart
At 10:50 PM 3/28/2009, you wrote:
Thanks to you all! I am navigating in my new computer... but one
last question... I agreed with the computer shop to install Windows
XP Home. Now I am having doubts. It is
Will I be able to install Windows Vista or 7 on the top of it?
Don't mess with success. Vista is not worth it and nobody
knows yet if 7 is worth it or not.
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You made a huge mistake in not getting a Vista computer. If you had,
you'd have had all the good features of Windows 7 already. WinXP is
really an old and tired looking OS at this point. There's simply no
way I could do without the improved security in Vista.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM,
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:04:44 -0500, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
At 10:45 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote:
Actually it wasn't a ripoff from Apple, gadgets/widgets whatever you want
to call them were around a long time before Apple.
I have them on XP called Widgets and Yahoo does them.
Keeps a dock on
I could do that also.
I have a dock at the office on a regular 17 monitor so I am changing
screen sizes a lot and when I do that I was loosing the widgets. So
I just opted for the dock right now.
It is just handy with the dock right now. I also only use widgets
that display the info while
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:09:57 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote:
Nice spin, but no, their primary point is having a choice. On her $1,000
budget she could choose between many PCs, or she could take the one Mac,
which didn't fit her requirements.
Well I guess if you want to go totally Socialist on us, that
You made a huge mistake in not getting a Vista computer.
That is a pretty bold statement.
If you had, you'd have had all the good features of Windows 7 already.
Exactly what good features are these?
WinXP is really an old and tired looking OS at this point.
Maybe. But it actually works
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