Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:56:19 -0800, Paul Meyer wrote: Is that a Doctor Who quote? Why yes. Yes it is. From the Face of Evil. -- katan The very powerful, and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering. The Doctor (Number 4) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
I should have given you more information in my last post: It's for use by a non-profit art group for managing a large and complex yearly event. They have been doing it on paper and have basic non-professional computer skills. (Windows based). One office manager and several collaborators. They don't need an enterprise based tool. db db wrote: Can anyone recommend a free or open source Project Management software? db * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
googling open source project management I came up with: http://www.openworkbench.org/ And a whole slew of others. I have not used any of them. On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:03 PM, db wrote: I should have given you more information in my last post: It's for use by a non-profit art group for managing a large and complex yearly event. They have been doing it on paper and have basic non-professional computer skills. (Windows based). One office manager and several collaborators. They don't need an enterprise based tool. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Matthew Taylor wrote: googling open source project management I came up with: http://www.openworkbench.org/ And a whole slew of others. I have not used any of them. The program I use is Gnome Planner (http://live.gnome.org/Planner) which is apparently also available on Windows (http://winplanner.sourceforge.net/). On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:03 PM, db wrote: I should have given you more information in my last post: It's for use by a non-profit art group for managing a large and complex yearly event. They have been doing it on paper and have basic non-professional computer skills. (Windows based). One office manager and several collaborators. They don't need an enterprise based tool. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
Thanks for trying. I also googled and found Open workbench, dot.project and others but was hoping someone with experience could personally recommend one that is pretty easy to use, not too robust/ complex etc but that would cover the basics of a single large event produced by a non-profit that has no IT staff for software wrassling.. db Matthew Taylor wrote: googling open source project management I came up with: http://www.openworkbench.org/ And a whole slew of others. I have not used any of them. On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:03 PM, db wrote: I should have given you more information in my last post: It's for use by a non-profit art group for managing a large and complex yearly event. They have been doing it on paper and have basic non-professional computer skills. (Windows based). One office manager and several collaborators. They don't need an enterprise based tool. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] another type of google map
Another interesting Google maps mash up is CrimeReports.com I'm impressed that it is so up to date. I see incidents from last week around my office in DC. Two robberies last week near gayley's place. Virginia reports no crimes at all. Heard this on FM oldies radio. Interesting. http://www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
Vicky, Would you say that Gnome planner would be relatively easy for newbies to use and cover the project planning basics of the type of project I described? db Vicky Staubly wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Matthew Taylor wrote: googling open source project management I came up with: http://www.openworkbench.org/ And a whole slew of others. I have not used any of them. The program I use is Gnome Planner (http://live.gnome.org/Planner) which is apparently also available on Windows (http://winplanner.sourceforge.net/). On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:03 PM, db wrote: I should have given you more information in my last post: It's for use by a non-profit art group for managing a large and complex yearly event. They have been doing it on paper and have basic non-professional computer skills. (Windows based). One office manager and several collaborators. They don't need an enterprise based tool. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, db wrote: Would you say that Gnome planner would be relatively easy for newbies to use and cover the project planning basics of the type of project I described? It's very easy if you've ever used Microsoft Project. It basically lets you create a list of tasks, assign a duration, who is assigned to it, what other tasks it depends on, etc. Then it will draw a nice Gantt chart. And you can then track progress as the project moves along. I'm not sure exactly what features you're looking for, but for what I've needed it's pretty simple. And, since it's free, it costs nothing (besides a bit of time) to try it out. Vicky Staubly wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Matthew Taylor wrote: googling open source project management I came up with: http://www.openworkbench.org/ And a whole slew of others. I have not used any of them. The program I use is Gnome Planner (http://live.gnome.org/Planner) which is apparently also available on Windows (http://winplanner.sourceforge.net/). On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:03 PM, db wrote: I should have given you more information in my last post: It's for use by a non-profit art group for managing a large and complex yearly event. They have been doing it on paper and have basic non-professional computer skills. (Windows based). One office manager and several collaborators. They don't need an enterprise based tool. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] another type of google map
Another interesting Google maps mash up is CrimeReports.com I just noticed that the Wash Post has a similar Google Maps mash up. The Post has many, many fewer reports than CrimeReports.com, but the reports that it does have offer details of what happened. CrimeReports.com usually has this field blank. CrimeReports.com looks better design-wise. Of course I want both completeness and detail, but having to choose one over the other I guess I prefer completeness. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] another type of google map
Are these automated? Can stories be selected and locations be added to a map using a script? No. They access each locality's police reports directly. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] another type of google map
Obviously, this is still a work in progress. It can't locate 400 North Capitol Street, NW, Washington, DC 20001. Richard P. Another interesting Google maps mash up is CrimeReports.com I'm impressed that it is so up to date. I see incidents from last week around my office in DC. Two robberies last week near gayley's place. Virginia reports no crimes at all. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
Microsoft Project is a schedule and resource management program. It focuses on things like CPM (Critical Path Method). I doubt you need that. I think that for managing an event you really need something like a good PIM. Something that manages to-do lists and calendars. I read an article recently where the author interviewed the 10 most productive people he knew. He found that they did not even rely on something as fancy as a PIM. They used word processing or spreadsheets to manage their to-do lists. On that theme and if you need something that multiple people can access simultaneously from many locations you might find that Google Apps is all you need. It has a nice way to manage multiple calendars. You can post to-do lists as text documents or spreadsheets. You can keep track of expenses with the spreadsheet. It's very easy if you've ever used Microsoft Project. It basically lets you create a list of tasks, assign a duration, who is assigned to it, what other tasks it depends on, etc. Then it will draw a nice Gantt chart. And you can then track progress as the project moves along. I'm not sure exactly what features you're looking for, but for what I've needed it's pretty simple. And, since it's free, it costs nothing (besides a bit of time) to try it out. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] another type of google map
Obviously, this is still a work in progress. It can't locate 400 North Capitol Street, NW, Washington, DC 20001. Is that a crime center? I thought the bad stuff happened a little further up the street. The address function is provided by Google Maps or so I thought, but that address works on Google Maps. Wait. The whole site search looks broken. Searches I did this afternoon now don't work. Try later. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
Tom, Thanks for your input. From what you say, maybe they do need some kind of PM software... not sure. More details: This non-profit group (that I belong to but don't manage), puts on a big event (large parade) each year and the production time stretches over 5 months and involves the work of a handful of part time organizers overseeing some 30 or 40 volunteers (basic manpower). A part time office manager tries desperately to keep track of it all for the organizers. There are many disparate and critical elements along the way (Numerous organizational meetings, permits to secure, supply ordering, etc.) in making sure the work done by many volunteers is planned, coordinated and is accomplished. I guess keeping track of expenses as it relates to budget is a lesser capability that might be useful but not as critical. The office manager has always specifically wanted to have some big picture time line ability but hasn't known how to best do so. She asked me because I work in IT but I have never used any such software. Given those details, which of your previous recommendations do you think would be the best to pursue? If they want timeline capability, seems like maybe they need more than spreadsheets and docs? On the other hand, as they only have Word processor, Excel and basic membership Access database skills, and would be boggled by complex enterprise level software, maybe that is all they can do... ? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Microsoft Project is a schedule and resource management program. It focuses on things like CPM (Critical Path Method). I doubt you need that. I think that for managing an event you really need something like a good PIM. Something that manages to-do lists and calendars. I read an article recently where the author interviewed the 10 most productive people he knew. He found that they did not even rely on something as fancy as a PIM. They used word processing or spreadsheets to manage their to-do lists. On that theme and if you need something that multiple people can access simultaneously from many locations you might find that Google Apps is all you need. It has a nice way to manage multiple calendars. You can post to-do lists as text documents or spreadsheets. You can keep track of expenses with the spreadsheet. It's very easy if you've ever used Microsoft Project. It basically lets you create a list of tasks, assign a duration, who is assigned to it, what other tasks it depends on, etc. Then it will draw a nice Gantt chart. And you can then track progress as the project moves along. I'm not sure exactly what features you're looking for, but for what I've needed it's pretty simple. And, since it's free, it costs nothing (besides a bit of time) to try it out. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] another type of google map
I think the bad stuff happens 1 block south :-D I'll try the site later. Thanks for letting me know. Richard P. Obviously, this is still a work in progress. It can't locate 400 North Capitol Street, NW, Washington, DC 20001. Is that a crime center? I thought the bad stuff happened a little further up the street. The address function is provided by Google Maps or so I thought, but that address works on Google Maps. Wait. The whole site search looks broken. Searches I did this afternoon now don't work. Try later. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
The office manager has always specifically wanted to have some big picture time line ability but hasn't known how to best do so. She asked me because I work in IT but I have never used any such software. Given those details, which of your previous recommendations do you think would be the best to pursue? If they want timeline capability, seems like maybe they need more than spreadsheets and docs? I know how to use Project Management software and learned CPM in my Operations Research classes in grad school. Despite this I make timelines in Excel. I find that all that other project managemebt baggage gets in the way. I would use Project Management software for a really big project, like building an aircraft carrier, but for normal projects it is overkill. I adjust the spreadsheet's column widths to be the same as the row height (looks like graph paper). I then run dates across the top and define different stages of the project using rows. I color in different cells (or use Dingbats/Wingdings font) to show important dates. I put text comments into cells to clarify things. I find this works just fine. On the other hand, as they only have Word processor, Excel and basic membership Access database skills, and would be boggled by complex enterprise level software, maybe that is all they can do... ? That is a very good point. Keep it simple! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Open source Project Management software?
Thanks Tom, I was trying to get a feel for the scale of what software was appropriate for this group's application and you answered that well. I am a devotee of the KISS theory and it sounds like that applies in this case.The Excel formatting technique will be useful for them too. If you want to print out the whole timeline... what do you do? ... print it out on multiple pages and tape it together or do you send it to an output shop for large paper printing? db Tom Piwowar wrote: The office manager has always specifically wanted to have some big picture time line ability but hasn't known how to best do so. She asked me because I work in IT but I have never used any such software. Given those details, which of your previous recommendations do you think would be the best to pursue? If they want timeline capability, seems like maybe they need more than spreadsheets and docs? I know how to use Project Management software and learned CPM in my Operations Research classes in grad school. Despite this I make timelines in Excel. I find that all that other project managemebt baggage gets in the way. I would use Project Management software for a really big project, like building an aircraft carrier, but for normal projects it is overkill. I adjust the spreadsheet's column widths to be the same as the row height (looks like graph paper). I then run dates across the top and define different stages of the project using rows. I color in different cells (or use Dingbats/Wingdings font) to show important dates. I put text comments into cells to clarify things. I find this works just fine. On the other hand, as they only have Word processor, Excel and basic membership Access database skills, and would be boggled by complex enterprise level software, maybe that is all they can do... ? That is a very good point. Keep it simple! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Shopping Efficiency [Was: Gates as Robin H
To be fair in the main branch of Wannamakers upstairs could be six or seven floors away. It could take a good ten minutes to get all the way back upstairs. That was probably worth a 10% premium. You succeeded in making me both nostalgic and home sick all at once. Apparently you can still meet under the Eagle but it is a Macy's now. I hope the Warthog is still there. On Feb 3, 2008 8:28 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is also price discrimination where buyers decide that web consumers won't buy at the regular market price so they offer lower prices on line. Much of real-world pricing behavior was mysterious to me until I learned about p.d. in my first micro-econ class. I used to love going shopping with the econ grad students. I recall going Christmas shopping with an econ grad student at Wannamakers. Upstairs he was looking at a potential gift, but put it aside. Later he saw the same item on the ground floor. He picked it up and decided to buy it. On the way to the checkout counter he became apoplectic when he noticed that the price was about 10% higher than it had been upstairs. Microeconomics he cried. Externalities I laughed. I have read that Best Buy goes so far as to redirect in-store computers to an in-house version of its website that does not have the same web pricing you will see from home. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
