Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3
>Technically, the FAT32 format of the drive can't handle files larger >than 4GB. Are the videos, etc., larger than that? To use larger files >you need NTFS. Can you reformat that drive? If/when you do, can you >transfer the videos? Yes, I had some external drives that were FAT that I neglected to reformat to HFS+. That was ugly. >USB2 drives that are Mac formatted seem to be OK with large files, but I >don't have a flash drive that big, only hard drives. No, I'm finding the problem with HFS+ drives and USB2. Switch the same drive to FireWire and the copy zips along. You're right about the USB. I have a new USB2 terabyte drive that keeps choking and stalling when I use TimeMachine, and just about anything else for back up. I was going to use it for video, but now I don't think so. I'm considering putting it in a FW case. Kind of a waste of a new drive case. It's a Seagate that's quiet and looks kind of nice too. It was NTFS when I got it. Tried FAT32 to use with peecees. Now it's HFS+. Maybe it's the drive and not the case? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Upgrading to Office 2007
Thanks for the feedback. I've installed it and everybody shows up as planned. Richard P. >>In its setup, Office 2007 appears to offer an option of keeping most >>of Office 2003 (except for Outlook), while installing the 2007 >>products. Does anyone have any experience to offer with having both >>Office 2003 and 2007 on the same computer? Or is it a disaster waiting >>to happen? > > I have Office 2008 and 2004 running on the same Mac. No problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Upgrading to Office 2007
I have Office 03 and 07 running in the same computer with Vista Home Premium. So far no problem. Marcio -Original Message- >From: Tom Piwowar >Sent: Apr 8, 2009 5:00 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Upgrading to Office 2007 > >>In its setup, Office 2007 appears to offer an option of keeping most >>of Office 2003 (except for Outlook), while installing the 2007 >>products. Does anyone have any experience to offer with having both >>Office 2003 and 2007 on the same computer? Or is it a disaster waiting >>to happen? > >I have Office 2008 and 2004 running on the same Mac. No problems. > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Vote for Old Blue Eyes!
At 01:56 PM 4/8/2009 -0400, you wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/what-should-microsoft-call-its-search-engine -bing-kumo-poll-2009-4 They won't let me vote for Zune Search. Drat! This is what I get: The page you are trying to reach does not exist. Besides, "Old Blue Eyes" was Sintra. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] More Competition
> This means that XP's EOL date must be moved far into the future. D'oh! I can't understand why I didn't get this immediately. Any moron should be able to understand that when someone says "I just read that Win 7 will come with rights to downgrade to XP. Nobody is asking about Vista." their point was that XP's EOL date has been pushed back. But for some reason I read it as something similar to "I just read that the government is planning to hold a presidential election every four years," and so I had trouble parsing the obvious meaning. How did I get to be so thick? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3
>Technically, the FAT32 format of the drive can't handle files larger >than 4GB. Are the videos, etc., larger than that? To use larger files >you need NTFS. Can you reformat that drive? If/when you do, can you >transfer the videos? Yes, I had some external drives that were FAT that I neglected to reformat to HFS+. That was ugly. >USB2 drives that are Mac formatted seem to be OK with large files, but I >don't have a flash drive that big, only hard drives. No, I'm finding the problem with HFS+ drives and USB2. Switch the same drive to FireWire and the copy zips along. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] More Competition
Since the list started or? On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >Careful. When you argue with a box of rocks, you'll never win, and > >you'll just give yourself a headache. > > Only if you try to foist off untruths. When you are right I'm happy to > say so. I'm sure I have done that at least once. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3
I have tried to sue the 16GB drive to move large files (video etc.) from computers but have given up. It will not take sustained writing of large files. It is a Kingston (normally a reliable brand) and it just cannot do it. Technically, the FAT32 format of the drive can't handle files larger than 4GB. Are the videos, etc., larger than that? To use larger files you need NTFS. Can you reformat that drive? If/when you do, can you transfer the videos? USB2 drives that are Mac formatted seem to be OK with large files, but I don't have a flash drive that big, only hard drives. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] More Competition
>Careful. When you argue with a box of rocks, you'll never win, and >you'll just give yourself a headache. Only if you try to foist off untruths. When you are right I'm happy to say so. I'm sure I have done that at least once. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Upgrading to Office 2007
>In its setup, Office 2007 appears to offer an option of keeping most >of Office 2003 (except for Outlook), while installing the 2007 >products. Does anyone have any experience to offer with having both >Office 2003 and 2007 on the same computer? Or is it a disaster waiting >to happen? I have Office 2008 and 2004 running on the same Mac. No problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] More Competition
>I'm perfectly well aware of what the thread was about. What you said was, "I >just read that Win 7 will come with rights to downgrade to XP." What I'm >telling you is that this is nothing new. You are acting as though it is some >kind of unusual deal or a reaction against Vista or something (I'm not sure >exactly what your point is), but it is not. If you are not sure then why do you feel compelled to chime in with something irrelevant? If you can keep the bile from going to your brain and pay attention, the story is that despite XP's EOL date being this month, MS is expanding downgrade rights to allow computer makers to ship PCs that have been pre-downgraded from Win7 to XP. That is news. This means that XP's EOL date must be moved far into the future. That is news too. DO NOT READ: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10213258-56.html Just take an antacid. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] More Competition
Careful. When you argue with a box of rocks, you'll never win, and you'll just give yourself a headache. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > I'm perfectly well aware of what the thread was about. What you said was, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Upgrading to Office 2007
In its setup, Office 2007 appears to offer an option of keeping most of Office 2003 (except for Outlook), while installing the 2007 products. Does anyone have any experience to offer with having both Office 2003 and 2007 on the same computer? Or is it a disaster waiting to happen? Thanks in advance, Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Open Office installation on a portable hard drive
Someone asked me about a .csv they'd been sent last week, and I was pleasantly surprised to find that I didn't need to recommend she install *anything* in order to deal with it! Everything was possible for free from her browser. What really surprised me was how complex the free Zoho db app is. It will even run queries! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...
I finally got to see one of these. He wanted a BIG system (desktop replacement) as he wanted a full size keyboard. Many 17" laptop's use a full size type keyboard, (complete with number key pad) I also noticed that it looks like HP is helping to underwrite these ads. You mentioned that the last one (Laurie?) got a HP. I noticed that G got a HP also. That looks fishy to me. (there are much better laptops out there than HP) Stewart At 12:41 PM 4/8/2009, you wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > Mike, the reason you don't understand his thinking is because you > aren't thinking lilke a MFB. He obviously gets brand new Macs, > complete with the latest hardware, for free. > > Either that, or elves magically upgrade his old computers to DDR3 > while he sleeps. Cobblering just doesn't pay like it used to. I can't wait for the next MS ad to come out. This last one led to loads of fun. Steve Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...
Sermons about Sex work better. When I lived in Wisconsin there was a car dealer whose name was "Big Boys Toys". Stewart At 10:13 AM 4/8/2009, you wrote: >He who dies with the most toys wins. (I am not sure what.) I bet that sermon packs them into your pews. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] More Competition
> The thread was about netbooks, not corporate IT. I guess MS is being > rejected from so many directions that you have lost your bearings. I'm perfectly well aware of what the thread was about. What you said was, "I just read that Win 7 will come with rights to downgrade to XP." What I'm telling you is that this is nothing new. You are acting as though it is some kind of unusual deal or a reaction against Vista or something (I'm not sure exactly what your point is), but it is not. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Vote for Old Blue Eyes!
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-should-microsoft-call-its-search-engine -bing-kumo-poll-2009-4 They won't let me vote for Zune Search. Drat! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...
>> BTW, the increases in speed of hardware aren't just on macs...sh..they >> also are on machines that run windows and linux. Duuh! But Jeff still cranks out those 8008 systems. Innnovation? Bah, humbug! We don't need no stinkin' innovation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > Mike, the reason you don't understand his thinking is because you > aren't thinking lilke a MFB. He obviously gets brand new Macs, > complete with the latest hardware, for free. > > Either that, or elves magically upgrade his old computers to DDR3 > while he sleeps. Cobblering just doesn't pay like it used to. I can't wait for the next MS ad to come out. This last one led to loads of fun. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Open Office installation on a portable hard drive
> Does the [current version of] Open Office install like MS Office > with registry entries that make it difficult / impossible to run it > from a portable hard drive (without using some specialty utility > such as U3), or can it simply be installed on a portable hard drive > and run from any machine it is plugged into (like Eudora can be, if > the settings/data directory is set to be the program files > directory, or some directory on the portable hard drive)? I have read, but have not personally tried this: You can simply move the OpenOffice folder that is in Program Files from one computer to another. This strongly suggests that you can do exactly what you want to do. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...
>> 30 percent faster for $0 more is certainly going to disturb WFBs. >> > So the original article says 21%...you quoted it at 23% and now it's 30% by > your estimates. If you wait a couple more days to email this thread again, > you might get an increase of 85 to 92%. > > BTW, the increases in speed of hardware aren't just on macs...sh..they > also are on machines that run windows and linux. It's usually not this obvious when Tom just starts making things up. He's off his game, or off something else. Mike, the reason you don't understand his thinking is because you aren't thinking lilke a MFB. He obviously gets brand new Macs, complete with the latest hardware, for free. Either that, or elves magically upgrade his old computers to DDR3 while he sleeps. Cobblering just doesn't pay like it used to. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Open Office installation on a portable hard drive
Fred Holmes wrote: Does the [current version of] Open Office install like MS Office with registry entries that make it difficult / impossible to run it from a portable hard drive (without using some specialty utility such as U3), or can it simply be installed on a portable hard drive and run from any machine it is plugged into (like Eudora can be, if the settings/data directory is set to be the program files directory, or some directory on the portable hard drive)? Does installation of Open Office mess with the desktop? (like an installation of Star Office did when I installed it many years ago. After I installed Star Office, I couldn't find anything.) I may just try it and see, but I'd like to know what to expect. I have an external USB/Firewire data hard drive, and I'd like to install Open Office on it, with just the individual WP, SS, Pres, etc. programs being accessible through a shortcut. I don't want any registration of file extensions to automatically open with Open Office apps. Yes, I'm running Win2k or XP on the various machines the portable hard drive might be plugged into. TIA Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Fred, Go here; http://portableapps.com/ Download, install and enjoy. John * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Open Office installation on a portable hard drive
Sounds like a good candidate to test on a virtual machine rather than put your setup at risk. Jim On Apr 8, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: Does the [current version of] Open Office install like MS Office with registry entries that make it difficult / impossible to run it from a portable hard drive (without using some specialty utility such as U3), or can it simply be installed on a portable hard drive and run from any machine it is plugged into (like Eudora can be, if the settings/data directory is set to be the program files directory, or some directory on the portable hard drive)? Does installation of Open Office mess with the desktop? (like an installation of Star Office did when I installed it many years ago. After I installed Star Office, I couldn't find anything.) I may just try it and see, but I'd like to know what to expect. I have an external USB/Firewire data hard drive, and I'd like to install Open Office on it, with just the individual WP, SS, Pres, etc. programs being accessible through a shortcut. I don't want any registration of file extensions to automatically open with Open Office apps. Yes, I'm running Win2k or XP on the various machines the portable hard drive might be plugged into. TIA Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...
So the original article says 21%...you quoted it at 23% and now it's 30% by your estimates. If you wait a couple more days to email this thread again, you might get an increase of 85 to 92%. BTW, the increases in speed of hardware aren't just on macs...sh..they also are on machines that run windows and linux. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >Never going to win an argument about not saving money with a mac user, > >that's for sure. > > 30 percent faster for $0 more is certainly going to disturb WFBs. > > I bet you could save even more money by sticking to the good old 8008 > processor. You could dig them up out of landfills. Dirt cheap computing > for sure. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Open Office installation on a portable hard drive
Google open office portable and you'll get various hits. You also get hits on portable MS office although I don't know if it is done by MS or some hack. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: > Does the [current version of] Open Office install like MS Office with > registry entries that make it difficult / impossible to run it from a > portable hard drive (without using some specialty utility such as U3), or > can it simply be installed on a portable hard drive and run from any machine > it is plugged into (like Eudora can be, if the settings/data directory is > set to be the program files directory, or some directory on the portable > hard drive)? > > Does installation of Open Office mess with the desktop? (like an > installation of Star Office did when I installed it many years ago. After I > installed Star Office, I couldn't find anything.) > > I may just try it and see, but I'd like to know what to expect. I have an > external USB/Firewire data hard drive, and I'd like to install Open Office > on it, with just the individual WP, SS, Pres, etc. programs being accessible > through a shortcut. I don't want any registration of file extensions to > automatically open with Open Office apps. > > Yes, I'm running Win2k or XP on the various machines the portable hard > drive might be plugged into. > > TIA > > Fred Holmes > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...
>Never going to win an argument about not saving money with a mac user, >that's for sure. 30 percent faster for $0 more is certainly going to disturb WFBs. I bet you could save even more money by sticking to the good old 8008 processor. You could dig them up out of landfills. Dirt cheap computing for sure. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] More Competition
>As for the bit about "Nobody is asking about Vista": as far as I can tell, >you're just making that up. What is your source for this? The thread was about netbooks, not corporate IT. I guess MS is being rejected from so many directions that you have lost your bearings. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...
>He who dies with the most toys wins. (I am not sure what.) I bet that sermon packs them into your pews. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Open Office installation on a portable hard drive
Does the [current version of] Open Office install like MS Office with registry entries that make it difficult / impossible to run it from a portable hard drive (without using some specialty utility such as U3), or can it simply be installed on a portable hard drive and run from any machine it is plugged into (like Eudora can be, if the settings/data directory is set to be the program files directory, or some directory on the portable hard drive)? Does installation of Open Office mess with the desktop? (like an installation of Star Office did when I installed it many years ago. After I installed Star Office, I couldn't find anything.) I may just try it and see, but I'd like to know what to expect. I have an external USB/Firewire data hard drive, and I'd like to install Open Office on it, with just the individual WP, SS, Pres, etc. programs being accessible through a shortcut. I don't want any registration of file extensions to automatically open with Open Office apps. Yes, I'm running Win2k or XP on the various machines the portable hard drive might be plugged into. TIA Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] More Competition
> I just read that Win 7 will come with rights to downgrade to XP. > Nobody is asking about Vista. I just noticed this one. It looks like you are getting your MS news from AppleInsider, which is not necessarily a good thing. The policy AI is talking about is not new, has nothing to do with XP or Vista, and is not exclusive to HP as the article implies. Volume licensing customers and OEMs have routinely had downgrade rights to ANY previous version of Windows. The main reason for this is so that corporate IT does not have to support multiple versions until it decides to upgrade everyone to a new version. As for the bit about "Nobody is asking about Vista": as far as I can tell, you're just making that up. What is your source for this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
