Re: [CGUYS] Is M$ Going to Blow it Again?
If anyone can pull defeat from the jaws of victory MS can.. I do wonder about 'computer journalists' when they get the easy wrong however, buying security software a must? Those full blown free security software packages not good enough for him? On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:03 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Computer World takes note that despite Win7 having fixed many of Vista's faults, there are still many ways for M$ to blow the deal. They seem to be getting ready to do so -- oh joy! http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=339666 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is M$ Going to Blow it Again?
If anyone can pull defeat from the jaws of victory MS can.. I do wonder about 'computer journalists' when they get the easy wrong however, buying security software a must? Those full blown free security software packages not good enough for him? That jumped out at me as soon as I read it, too. He also doesn't mention that most netbooks are quite capable of running any edition of Win7. Starter Edition will, I suppose, be the default OS for base versions of the machines, but that don't mean you're stuck with it. I'm also not so sure about the big Linux comeback in netbooks that he seems to be predicting. Here's what I've noticed (not specifically in this article). Writers ponder why Linux has been, in general, more successful in netbooks than in bigger machines. The answer is usually that netbooks are being used for bare bones computing: email, web, simple documents. You can do all that in Linux using familiar stuff like OpenOffice and Firefox. But then they turn right around and say that Win7 Starter sucks because it doesn't have Aero Glass, fast user switching, and so on. What does any of that have to do with bare bones computing? Linux is great for netbooks because bare bones is OK, but Win7 Starter isn't because it's missing Aero Glass? A little consistency would be nice. In any event, it will be interesting launch to watch. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
They just need to click the link to download the file. It works as FTP or a file on a web page, not email. -Original Message- I went to www.yousendit.com, downloaded their program, paid 8 plus dollars to upload one video, and I sent the video to my brazilian address where I received an e-mail with a link to download. I also got from them a link for someone to access the file. I am going to send this link to some people so that they can access and download the video. However when I use their program (icon in my desk top) so far I have been unable to send the video from their site to anyone else. The video is not there in the inbox and I only find it in the SENT. If I try to forward it to anyone else they want to charge me another 8 plus dollar... but it says that the video is available for 14 days... Do I have to pay 8 plus dollars for anyone I send the video? Or just tell them to click the link they e-mailed me? Oh! My... how much time I am going to spend with computers? Andmoney? Anyone knows? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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It is not a permanent solution but a temp solution. My best idea is to buy and get some web space and park files on the web and use FTP to upload and then make links for people to download them. Yousendit is costly as a few others pointed out. But for a one off it can be great. What I usually do is use a website I manage and set up a web page with downloadable links and send folks there to download files. I upload the files to the web site and let folks get them at their leisure. Stewart At 12:37 AM 6/1/2009, you wrote: Rev. Stewart I went to www.yousendit.com, downloaded their program, paid 8 plus dollars to upload one video, and I sent the video to my brazilian address where I received an e-mail with a link to download. I also got from them a link for someone to access the file. I am going to send this link to some people so that they can access and download the video. However when I use their program (icon in my desk top) so far I have been unable to send the video from their site to anyone else. The video is not there in the inbox and I only find it in the SENT. If I try to forward it to anyone else they want to charge me another 8 plus dollar... but it says that the video is available for 14 days... Do I have to pay 8 plus dollars for anyone I send the video? Or just tell them to click the link they e-mailed me? Oh! My... how much time I am going to spend with computers? Andmoney? Anyone knows? Marcio Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wither the newsmag?
I have read newspapers for many years now and am not looking forward to the day I can't walk out my door each morning and get the daily paper. So how can newspapers survive; what are they doing wrong? I used to read the Wall Street Journal. It was an excellent news-paper. They've gotten lazy since their first allegiance is to News Corp. and its [not the paper's] profits, with their editorial staff second, reporters third, support staff fourth, and readers way down the list. The only reason to read it now is for daily financial results that are hard to find on the Internet [yes, there are a few of those]. I now subscribe to the Financial Times of London, US edition. One of the big differences between the WSJ and FT is that WSJ will publish a press release as news, something they rarely did before Murdoch. FT will receive a press release, research the story, and print the details behind the press release. Without research and investigative reporting, plus reporters on the scene to observe and report, papers have little reason to exist. Publications that have devolved into -papers need to get their act together and be news-papers, if they aren't already gone. Firing the people who report the news and the rest who enable readers to get it is what's killing newspapers. Why did the Baltimore Sun/LA Times fire so many important employees during good times when their profits were over 30%? What does this bad behavior have to do with news? Can't blame that on Internet competition. How many Internet-only reporters [not commentators] will be covering your local council meetings? None? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wither the newsmag?
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: I now subscribe to the Financial Times of London, US edition. One of the big differences between the WSJ and FT is that WSJ will publish a press release as news, something they rarely did before Murdoch. FT will receive a press release, research the story, and print the details behind the press release. Without research and investigative reporting, plus reporters on the scene to observe and report, papers have little reason to exist. Many, even perhaps most newspapers resorted to simply printing the contents of press releases as a cost saving measure and also to get the news out there early and with little fuss or bother on their part. We all now know that the practice of merely publishing the contents of press releases and other announcements issued by the White House was greatly responsible for why newspapers failed the public throughout the period during the run up to the invasion of Iraq. Hopefully, since it appears as though most larger newspapers have decided to take the low road in terms of actually reporting on and investigating news events, the internet may actually provide a way for entities other than newspapers to be able to inform fairly large audiences with good information based upon real reporting and journalistic integrity. It is likely that the huge newspaper conglomerates may have permanently sealed their own fate, but local and smaller entities may survive and eventually serve audiences beyond their normal areas of coverage by way of the internet. Perhaps papers like the Manchester Guardian, a not-for-profit organization, can become a voice well heard beyond its normal regional boundaries. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Marcio wrote: Oh! My... how much time I am going to spend with computers? Andmoney? M-A-C-I-N-T-O-S-H * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Marcio wrote: Oh! My... how much time I am going to spend with computers? Andmoney? M-A-C-I-N-T-O-S-H I wasn't aware that having a Mac allowed one to overcome limits on the size of email attachments. That's good to know. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't aware that having a Mac allowed one to overcome limits on the size of email attachments. That's good to know. What are the typical restraints upon the size of e-mail attachments? How much variation is there between providers of e-mail service? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
I know live.com and gmail are 10 meg total size. ISP's are usually smaller by quite a bit but vary. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:52 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't aware that having a Mac allowed one to overcome limits on the size of email attachments. That's good to know. What are the typical restraints upon the size of e-mail attachments? How much variation is there between providers of e-mail service? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is M$ Going to Blow it Again?
Each new M$ OpSys has included a price increase... slightly higher than inflation. Why should this one be any different? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is M$ Going to Blow it Again?
Are you sure? With Vista MS implemented 47 different versions of it's os so it would be easy to see it as higher then XP and especially 95 and 98 considering there was only one version. Comparing XP pro to Vista business...what was the increase? On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Brian Jones wjone...@carolina.rr.comwrote: Each new M$ OpSys has included a price increase... slightly higher than inflation. Why should this one be any different? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: I wasn't aware that having a Mac allowed one to overcome limits on the size of email attachments. That's good to know. Also lets you leap tall buildings in a single bound. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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ISP's average 1-5 MB as a limit on attachments. ISP's do this so as not to overwhelm their mail serves. I regularly email bulletins and stuff to teh church office for printing on Friday mornings. (My Sec. likes to get an early start usually before I am there) Every so often if I have scanned in a hymn or two (I use TIFF's) they can be quite large and the attachment will upchuck. Stewart At 03:06 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: I know live.com and gmail are 10 meg total size. ISP's are usually smaller by quite a bit but vary. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:52 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't aware that having a Mac allowed one to overcome limits on the size of email attachments. That's good to know. What are the typical restraints upon the size of e-mail attachments? How much variation is there between providers of e-mail service? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
Yeah but Kryptonite will render them useless. Stewart At 05:04 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: Also lets you leap tall buildings in a single bound. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: I wasn't aware that having a Mac allowed one to overcome limits on the size of email attachments. That's good to know. Watching you guys fail to ask any of the right questions is quite funny. A clear-thinking Mac person would want to know... Why is this video file so damn big? How big is this file (MB)? How long is the video (minutes:seconds)? What are the screen dimensions (h x v resolution)? Are other resolutions acceptable? What is the current file format? Are other formats acceptable? What codec are you using to compress the video? What codecs are acceptable? What software are you using? Did you get Handbreak? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Jun 1, 2009, at 2:52 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: What are the typical restraints upon the size of e-mail attachments? How much variation is there between providers of e-mail service? 20 MB for Gmail. Anyone providing less is a Rip Van Winkle. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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20 MB for Gmail. Anyone providing less is a Rip Van Winkle. That may be the case, but if the receiving end has a smaller limit, than Google's limit won't be of any use. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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ISP's average 1-5 MB as a limit on attachments. ...which makes me realize that I said 1 GB when I meant 1 MB. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
Watching you guys fail to ask any of the right questions is quite funny. A clear-thinking Mac person would want to know... Why is this video file so damn big? snip This is why such people should be avoided when at all possible. They tend to overcomplicate simple problems. A has a video. He wants to send it to B over the Internet. He was provided the correct answer on how to send a large file: use a free/inexpensive online FTP service. Dropbox would have been a better choice than Yousendit. 2 GB for free, no file size limit via the local client, 350 MB limit via web GUI. He can use Dropbox to send all sorts of files other than video without having to worry about pesky busybodies bothering him with details important only to them. He can just get his work done and not get bogged down by minutia. He can even back up his important files to Dropbox (Mozy is a better option for offsite backup). Now, if the subject is how to produce a video, then by all means, go nuts with the pesky details. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
Dropbox FAQ: http://www.getdropbox.com/help/category/Getting%20Started Dropbox download: http://www.getdropbox.com/install -Original Message- Watching you guys fail to ask any of the right questions is quite funny. A clear-thinking Mac person would want to know... Why is this video file so damn big? snip This is why such people should be avoided when at all possible. They tend to overcomplicate simple problems. A has a video. He wants to send it to B over the Internet. He was provided the correct answer on how to send a large file: use a free/inexpensive online FTP service. Dropbox would have been a better choice than Yousendit. 2 GB for free, no file size limit via the local client, 350 MB limit via web GUI. He can use Dropbox to send all sorts of files other than video without having to worry about pesky busybodies bothering him with details important only to them. He can just get his work done and not get bogged down by minutia. He can even back up his important files to Dropbox (Mozy is a better option for offsite backup). Now, if the subject is how to produce a video, then by all means, go nuts with the pesky details. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Belief Silos [Was: When I think know...]
On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Yeah but Kryptonite will render them useless. After a particularly difficult caller on Science Friday the host remarked about Belief Silos -- clusters of unrelated beliefs that for some reason tend to be found together. I've been noticing that here too. For example: fanatical loyalty to Microsoft goes with magical thinking about free markets goes with ... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
Overall Gmail storage space = I think 5 GB (or is it now 7GB ??) with an additional 1 GB for PicasaWeb pics. 10 GB additional can be purchased for $20/ yr. If you use Google Docs Business Standard, Premier or Educational/ Non Profit, there are bigger storage limits with Standard having a 7 GB limit and Premier / Educational / NonProfit having a 25GB limit. db t.piwowar wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 2:52 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: What are the typical restraints upon the size of e-mail attachments? How much variation is there between providers of e-mail service? 20 MB for Gmail. Anyone providing less is a Rip Van Winkle. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Thanks for the info on Dropbox. I was only familar with Yousendit. What I prefer to do is setup an FTP site and upload my file there for others to get. But you must ba able to do this. Stewart At 05:53 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: Dropbox FAQ: http://www.getdropbox.com/help/category/Getting%20Started Dropbox download: http://www.getdropbox.com/install -Original Message- Watching you guys fail to ask any of the right questions is quite funny. A clear-thinking Mac person would want to know... Why is this video file so damn big? snip This is why such people should be avoided when at all possible. They tend to overcomplicate simple problems. A has a video. He wants to send it to B over the Internet. He was provided the correct answer on how to send a large file: use a free/inexpensive online FTP service. Dropbox would have been a better choice than Yousendit. 2 GB for free, no file size limit via the local client, 350 MB limit via web GUI. He can use Dropbox to send all sorts of files other than video without having to worry about pesky busybodies bothering him with details important only to them. He can just get his work done and not get bogged down by minutia. He can even back up his important files to Dropbox (Mozy is a better option for offsite backup). Now, if the subject is how to produce a video, then by all means, go nuts with the pesky details. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
Somebody mentioned Box.net also https://www.box.net/signup Three vers: Free Lite: 5 collaboration folders 1 GB of storage 25 MB file uploads Individual - Free 14 Day Trial $7.95 / mo 5 collaboration folders, 5 GB of storage, 1 GB file uploads, Email Support, Faster Uploads Business - Free 14 Day Trial $19.95 per mo $15 / user per month, Unlimited collaboration folders, 30 GB+ of storage, 1 GB file uploads, Dedicated Phone Support, Faster Upload,s Version history, Custom branding, Admin console, Full Document Search Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Thanks for the info on Dropbox. I was only familar with Yousendit. What I prefer to do is setup an FTP site and upload my file there for others to get. But you must ba able to do this. Stewart At 05:53 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: Dropbox FAQ: http://www.getdropbox.com/help/category/Getting%20Started Dropbox download: http://www.getdropbox.com/install -Original Message- Watching you guys fail to ask any of the right questions is quite funny. A clear-thinking Mac person would want to know... Why is this video file so damn big? snip This is why such people should be avoided when at all possible. They tend to overcomplicate simple problems. A has a video. He wants to send it to B over the Internet. He was provided the correct answer on how to send a large file: use a free/inexpensive online FTP service. Dropbox would have been a better choice than Yousendit. 2 GB for free, no file size limit via the local client, 350 MB limit via web GUI. He can use Dropbox to send all sorts of files other than video without having to worry about pesky busybodies bothering him with details important only to them. He can just get his work done and not get bogged down by minutia. He can even back up his important files to Dropbox (Mozy is a better option for offsite backup). Now, if the subject is how to produce a video, then by all means, go nuts with the pesky details. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Thanks for the info on Dropbox. I was only familar with Yousendit. What I prefer to do is setup an FTP site and upload my file there for others to get. But you must ba able to do this. De nada. I prefer Box.net (Box) because it has features that work better for businesses, but Dropbox seems to be a good solution for the individual. MaximumPC magazine raves about it. I've tried Yousendit and they have a terrific service, but boy do you pay. For what I get for $200/year with Box, it would have been many times that on a monthly basis. (A peer of mine tested FTP services, including Box, from North Korea and according to her, Yousendit won the competition from there. Don't ask me why her .org was in NK.) DIY FTP comes with so much overhead (hardware, software, securing it, etc) that it makes no sense to do this any longer, especially when someone will do it for you for gratis or next to nothing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Belief Silos [Was: When I think know...]
...goes with magical thinking about free markets goes with ... Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. *pt* Tom, It only looks like magic if you don't understand it. [Waits for cranky, bilious rant filled with capitalist boogeymen, free market strawmen, numerous non-sequitors, garment-rending hyperbole and the brave, selfless guvmint employee who will save us all from certain doom.] **Please note who first brought politics into the thread.** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I know live.com and gmail are 10 meg total size. ISP's are usually smaller by quite a bit but vary. HughesNet gives me an upload limit of 20 MB per e-mail, which is a lot more than most ISPs offer. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I already manage a web site so it is easy to upload the stuff to the web site, and then make it available. Of course the next step is to remove when you are done. Stewart At 06:23 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: De nada. I prefer Box.net (Box) because it has features that work better for businesses, but Dropbox seems to be a good solution for the individual. MaximumPC magazine raves about it. I've tried Yousendit and they have a terrific service, but boy do you pay. For what I get for $200/year with Box, it would have been many times that on a monthly basis. (A peer of mine tested FTP services, including Box, from North Korea and according to her, Yousendit won the competition from there. Don't ask me why her .org was in NK.) DIY FTP comes with so much overhead (hardware, software, securing it, etc) that it makes no sense to do this any longer, especially when someone will do it for you for gratis or next to nothing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: This is why such people should be avoided when at all possible. They tend to overcomplicate simple problems. A has a video. He wants to send it to B over the Internet. He was provided the correct answer on how to send a large file: use a free/inexpensive online FTP service. We call this trying to shove 10 pounds of shit into a five-pound bag. I encounter such problems with media files all the time. In almost every case the creator of the file has made some choice that makes the file balloon in size. Because they are not experts in creating media files they do not know the implications of the choices they are making. They do not know the trade offs they can make to keep the file size down. Failing to fix the real problem leaves them struggling with huge files that could have easily been made manageable. Of course this requires some thought and some finesse, an anathema to some. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Belief Silos [Was: When I think know...]
On Jun 1, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: *pt* Tom, It only looks like magic if you don't understand it. Economics was one of my major fields in grad school. It was a top school -- one of our faculty won the Nobel Prize in Economics and was Carter's Economics advisor. I then spent a decade doing forecasting and analytical work. So that would not apply to me. However, I suspect that you have even less background in Economics than you do in computers. What makes you think you are such an expert in Economics? Perhaps you have a PhD in name calling? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Belief Silos [Was: When I think know...]
Well Tom you know the real world definition of a PhD don't you? Stewart At 07:01 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: *pt* Tom, It only looks like magic if you don't understand it. Economics was one of my major fields in grad school. It was a top school -- one of our faculty won the Nobel Prize in Economics and was Carter's Economics advisor. I then spent a decade doing forecasting and analytical work. So that would not apply to me. However, I suspect that you have even less background in Economics than you do in computers. What makes you think you are such an expert in Economics? Perhaps you have a PhD in name calling? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Belief Silos [Was: When I think know...]
Economics was one of my major fields in grad school. It was a top school -- one of our faculty won the Nobel Prize in Economics and was Carter's Economics advisor. I then spent a decade doing forecasting and analytical work. So that would not apply to me. Ah, appeals to authority. I left that one out. Perhaps you have a PhD in name calling? I would never dream of invading your turf. No, mine is in bullshit detection. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Belief Silos [Was: When I think know...]
On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Well Tom you know the real world definition of a PhD don't you? I know what the bitterly ignorant like to call it. Di I care? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Belief Silos [Was: When I think know...]
On Jun 1, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: *pt* Tom, It only looks like magic if you don't understand it. Paul Krugman offers a great explaination today... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/opinion/01krugman.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
We call this trying to shove 10 pounds of shit into a five-pound bag. This may be so, but it was not the question, nor the topic. Feel free to offer your advice to Marcio once you're done cat-calling. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is M$ Going to Blow it Again?
Computer World takes note that despite Win7 having fixed many of Vista's faults, there are still many ways for M$ to blow the deal. They seem to be getting ready to do so -- oh joy! http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=339666 Microsoft redefines netbooks yet again, so that they can write their software only for a predefined system--their CYA for when it doesn't run on YOUR new netbook. Linked from above story: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9133460 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Feel free to offer your advice to Marcio once you're done cat-calling. So now we need to seek your approval before we answer technical questions? His last post clearly indicated frustration with the try-it-again- harder type of advice he was getting. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is M$ Going to Blow it Again?
On Jun 1, 2009, at 9:08 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Microsoft redefines netbooks yet again, so that they can write their software only for a predefined system--their CYA for when it doesn't run on YOUR new netbook. Linked from above story: I was thinking that M$ was seeking to define the specs narrowly so that they could charge a higher price for the OS when it was sold with hardware that exceeded the minimum. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Belief Silos [Was: When I think know...]
On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: I'm sure he does a fantastic job on your confirmation bias. He stopped being an economist long ago. You constantly reject insightful analysis by knowledgeable people in favor of magical thinking. That is your belief silo. Q.E.D. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] WolframAlpha
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:48 PM, David K Watson
davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote:
It's a funny quote, but it ignores the fact that Wolfram Alpha
was never intended from the start to be a Google killer.
From a PC World article:
The first thing Wolfram Research co-founder Theodore Grey wants you to
know is what Alpha is not: It is no Google killer, as it's been called by
some reports. In fact, Alpha is very, very different from a search engine.
Some reports is an understatement. Every single report, article,
write-up, commentary, and everything else I've seen on WolframAlpha, except
from Wolfram Research itself, compares it to Google. I think 30 seconds
with WA would convince someone that there is no comparison between the
two... but I think WA doesn't really protest too hard because its so
difficult for them to explain what they are and why they've included some of
the data they have.
Alpha is fairly good at what it is supposed to do, which
is to present data systematically and to do analysis of
that data that you are unlikely to find on any web page.
I keep having mixed feelings about this. I keep wanting to feel this is
true, but every single query I've tried that I thought was relatively
simple, WA has totally failed me. WA doesn't really understand the
relationships of much of its data, while there are many many webpages out
there that do.
To give just a simplistic example. Ask WA about Cassablanca, and say you're
talking about the movie. It knows that Humphrey Bogart was in the movie.
Ask it about Humphrey Bogart... and it knows that he was an actor, but
doesn't tell you that he was in Cassablanca. Contrairwise, go ask IMDB
about Humphrey Bogart, and it will tell you that he was in Cassablanca. Ask
Google about Humphrey Bogart, and it refers you to IMDB which will have that
kind of relationship.
I'm pleased, however, that WA has been improving the queries that work.
When it first launched, I tried distance earth mars, which worked fine,
and distance venus mars, which happily told me the distance from Earth to
both Venus and Mars. Last week when I tried this, it gave me the expected
results.
And it ties in really well with Mathematica if you want
to do a more sophisticated analysis of that data.
I would hope that it does! {: That said, I can't comment on this, since I
haven't used Mathematica over a decade, and even then I was probably doing
things far far simpler than what WA provides.
It does explain part of what dissapoints me about WA. The results are
very... flat. I'll do a stock comparison, look at the graphs, see an
outlier... and get frustrated that clicking on the outlier doesn't work. I
can only assume that Mathematica would provide that kind of integration.
There is plenty of room for Alpha to coexist alongside
Google, and I expect that eventually Alpha results will
turn up in Google search results for some queries in
much the same way Wikipedia results do now.
Actually, I expect that Google will increasingly be doing similar work on
its own, trying to do its own semantic parsing. While the expert reviewed
data that WA has is good, what the web is increasingly trying to say is
that very interested non-experts are providing nearly as good data, and
that there are tools out there that are connecting this data together.
I keep wanting to like WA... but I just can't find any results from it that
I care about.
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Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
So now we need to seek your approval before we answer technical questions? I thought maybe you could, oh, I don't know, help, instead of, you know, not. His last post clearly indicated frustration with the try-it-again- harder type of advice he was getting. His post clearly indicated it was something he hadn't encountered before and wasn't sure exactly what he should do. Is this your idea of good advice to people? Never try something you haven't tried before and never, ever, should you ask for help. Because if you do, I'll tell you how you're doing it all wrong. Try setting the RDF to something other than 'Jerry Hathaway.' You're going to make Marcio feel bad, fighting over him like this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: You're going to make Marcio feel bad, fighting over him like this. I watch you guys mislead him for several days. I finally jumped in with 1 post to move things in a better direction and you attacked me. You are a troll. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
I finally jumped in with 1 post to move things in a better direction and you attacked me. Let's see now, you said: Watching you guys fail to ask any of the right questions is quite funny. And: We call this trying to shove 10 pounds of shit into a five-pound bag. And I said: This may be so, but it was not the question, nor the topic. And I thought maybe you could, oh, I don't know, help, instead of, you know, not. Clearly a victim of a savage beating here. Have a Stuart Smalley moment on me Tom. Go on, you're good enough for it. You are a troll. I checked with the troll union and they said that you, being the chapter president, have to clear all new applicants. That's too much bother. I went and joined the local Moose lodge instead. They have pancake breakfasts on Saturdays. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
I would rather join the local Armadillo lodge. We get to join every so often at Armadillo World Headquarters Stewart At 10:27 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: I checked with the troll union and they said that you, being the chapter president, have to clear all new applicants. That's too much bother. I went and joined the local Moose lodge instead. They have pancake breakfasts on Saturdays. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...
That's so cool Rev, that I want it on a hat. This can't be the place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillo_World_Headquarters -Original Message- I would rather join the local Armadillo lodge. We get to join every so often at Armadillo World Headquarters Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
