Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will
Did that security hole ever get compromised? That's the argument from the mac side, macs have big security holes that are never compromised so that equals good security, I hadn't seen that this extension caused one security problem. Perhaps it did and it didn't come up in my searches? On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: The problem is that M$ did something that opened a security hole in non-M$ software that people use to avoid their own shoddy product because of similar security holes intrinsic to IE. I don't trust IE due to it's history and only use it for updates and when It can't be avoided. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will
So Apple is guilty of some of the crimes that the Redmond Menace is guilty of. Both are sinners and deserve a time out for it. Agreed, but that was in answer to Tom's assertion that Apple would NEVER do such a thing, when, in fact, it already has. The problem is that M$ did something that opened a security hole in non-M$ software that people use to avoid their own shoddy product because of similar security holes intrinsic to IE. So you say, but yet, no one has actually been able to show what this supposed security hole actually was. So far, it's just been a lot of talk. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will
Since we have pirate day, can we have l33t speak day...Jeff already has a good start. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: The web has been largely a OMG!!! M$ hAx0red FF!!!1! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] New MS ads not so ineffective after all?
http://blogs.computerworld.com/microsoft_ad_campaign_cleans_apples_clock The odd thing is that the Ad Age article that ComputerWorld references appears to have disappeared. All the links to it, including the ones on Ad Age's own site, come up with item not found. Maybe it's just a web site error. Or maybe not. BTW, on a different ad campaign: whether or not Bing is any good (my experience: sometimes it is, sometimes not so much), I thought that the first MS Bing ad was really well done. The look of incomprehension on peoples' faces as their companions launched into vaguely related yet totally irrelevant topics was priceless. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] DTV Reception Maps
In light of the upcoming DTV transition, http://dtv.gov/ has a nice signal reception map. The direct link is: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/ Just plug in your address and it will let you know what kind of signal strength should be available at your location. If you click on station's call sign, it will give you more detailed info. Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Cost to Purchase a Congressman
Thanks! That's excellent! Alvin Auerbach wrote: I put houseofrepresentatives.gov into my browser, and OpenDNS came up with this Sponsored Link: Members of House of Representatives Compare prices on members of house of representatives at Smarter.com and shop smarter. www.smarter.com This would be good information for any special interest to know! Get many votes, yet minimize your cost! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will
Note how blasé WFBs are about product defects. But there is a big difference here. If M$ wants to have gross defects in its own products that is their business, but when they go insert defects into competitor's products that is something completely different. That's a drive-by shooting. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to establish first that this *is* a product defect before blathering on about it. The prodcut is working fine and the only question was whether or not this should have been a machine level install or a user level install. So far, all we've gotten are prank calls to the fire department. I'm sure you can do better. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will
A real example please. Bonjour is not what you claim it to be. Actually, it is. I know, I know, your programming won't allow you to admit that. I don't blame you personally. Here, chew on these: http://cyberinsecure.com/apples-safari-downloads-websites-resources-without-asking-for-permission/ http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2157 http://www.itworld.com/security/53730/apple-pushes-mobileme-surprise-xp-vista * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ads not so ineffective after all?
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: http://blogs.computerworld.com/ microsoft_ad_campaign_cleans_apples_clock The odd thing is that the Ad Age article that ComputerWorld references appears to have disappeared. All the links to it, including the ones on Ad Age's own site, come up with item not found. Maybe it's just a web site error. Or maybe not. The links are dead because this is no longer current content. Note that this poll was limited to young adults who: 1) Will have the least money to spend 2) Are most easily mislead by advertising So the headline is M$ Favored by the Broke and Dumb Look at some of the other news this WFB has written... Mac OS X Java fiasco: Apple still doesn't get security How much does the Apple Tax really cost? Finally! Say good-bye to Apple fanboys * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will
On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:34 AM, mike wrote: Did that security hole ever get compromised? That's the argument from the mac side, macs have big security holes that are never compromised so that equals good security, I hadn't seen that this extension caused one security problem. Perhaps it did and it didn't come up in my searches? You keep trying to change the subject. The issue is that this vulnerability was inserted into a competitor's product by M$. By doing so it removed a major advantage of using the competitor's product. This is particularly important because this is the very same competing product that was at the center of M$'s anti-trust conviction. Looks to me like M$ has unilaterally declared the consent agreement void. Sort of like North Korea declaring the Korean Armistice Agreement void. (Now I suppose you will spring to the defense of Kim Jong-il.) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ads not so ineffective after all?
The links are dead because this is no longer current content. You just love to make stuff up, don't you? It turns out that the Ad Age piece is still there (and very current), but you have to pay to read it. All you can see without payment is part of the first paragraph: NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- Apple may have some of the most interesting online ads we've seen in a while, but Microsoft's recent push to paint the competitor as pricey is starting to work, according to data from BrandIndex. ... So, your statement about it being no longer current content is flat wrong, and sounds very much made up to me. Note that this poll was limited to young adults ... Also known as the demographic advertisers covet. Apple's target demo. Mac guy looks like a young adult to me. Mac ads are laser-targeted at young adults. Look at some of the other news this WFB has written... Uh, the WFB didn't do the study, did he? And from what we can see, his writeup looks pretty durn accurate, wouldn't you say? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ads not so ineffective after all?
On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: You just love to make stuff up, don't you? It turns out that the Ad Age piece is still there (and very current), but you have to pay to read it. All you can see without payment is part of the first paragraph: So, your statement about it being no longer current content is flat wrong, and sounds very much made up to me. You are a very bizarre person. A troll just waiting to pounce on every little thing. My experience with the Ad Age site is that current content is for the most part available from their front page or external links without subscription. I have read many interesting stories this way. After a short while this free access lapses. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will
You keep trying to change the subject. The issue is that this vulnerability was inserted into a competitor's product by M$. Sorry, but you haven't established yet that there actually is a vulnerability. Repeating it does not make it so. By doing so it removed a major advantage of using the competitor's product. This is particularly important because this is the very same competing product that was at the center of M$'s anti-trust conviction. Looks to me like M$ has unilaterally declared the consent agreement void. Nope, not the same product. It may be based on the same rendering engine and I know how easily confused you can get, but it's a completely separate product from Netscape. Netscape was owned by the evil AOL (weren't they supposed to own the Internet by now?), Firefox is owned by Mozilla, a non-profit. Just in case you're *really* confused, Safari and Chrome are differrent products too, even though they share code as well. (Now I suppose you will spring to the defense of Kim Jong-il.) Nah, he seems like much more of a Mac guy. Feelings of inadequacy, vain, crushing central authority, conformity at all costs and so on. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 pain
I have used it successfully to move PC's from one machine to another with a clean install and the former install. I t does want two machines though, but it works great, only draw back is it is a once use program. Must buy a separate license each tome you move it. Limited and costly. Another part of the buyers remorse thing that happens after the real cost of Windows is tallied. Then use what comes with Windows. http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!23641.entry * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 pain
On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Then use what comes with Windows. http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!23641.entry And what about my applications? This does the easy part and leaves me stuck with the hard part. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] pentium d 945
I've been googling (no bing for me) for a little bit but I haven't been able to find a good number. While transcoding video on CPU in the subject line, everest and cpuz reports that the temp is up over 70c. Is that possible? I'm worried, should I be real worried as in not use the CPU for such tasks? I've read these CPU's run hot...but that hot? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ads not so ineffective after all?
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:28 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge, Apple computers have always been seen as pricey. Nothing ground breaking about that. I have been hearing complaints about the cost of Apple machines for years, and also know it to be a fact. How do I know? Because I buy them. Pricey at first, but from all I have witnessed and heard, less costly and less of a hassle in the long run. Those who are bad at calculating TCO get to pay the PC tax. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] pentium d 945
On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:56 PM, mike wrote: I've been googling (no bing for me) for a little bit but I haven't been able to find a good number. While transcoding video on CPU in the subject line, everest and cpuz reports that the temp is up over 70c. Is that possible? I'm worried, should I be real worried as in not use the CPU for such tasks? I've read these CPU's run hot...but that hot? http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=maxtemp.shtml While not listing the D 495 specifically, this page suggests that 70C is not too hot. Note that this page lists case temps, which are lower than reported temps. This gives you even more margin. You can often bring down temps significantly by opening the case and pointing a big fan at the thing. Also consider how much of this you are going to be doing. If just a little then don't bother to fix. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ads not so ineffective after all?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Chris Dunfordseed...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, but the point of the article was the rather startling turnaround in the perception of the MS and Apple brands in the 18-34 demo. Since late winter, Apple's rating has dropped from 70 to 12, and MS's has increased from 0 to 46 (100 means all positive feedback, -100 means all negative, 0 means about even). In other words, in late winter, Apple was ahead 70-0. Now, MS is ahead 46-12. So, what does all of that actually mean? Does it mean that advertisers know how to manipulate younger consumers? Didn't those consumers within that demographic group already know that Apple computers are more expensive than most Windows machines? The ads certaily appear to imply such. Additionally, we are only talking about initial retail price, right? I also have noted in those MS ads that the buyers are making their decisions solely predicated upon two factors: The cheaper cost and the advice of Best Buy salespersons. Would anyone on this list rely upon those two criteria when making their computer purchasing decisions? Most likely not because we are probably a lot more savvy that the folks depicted in those ads. I think we all know to whom those ads are targeted. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ads not so ineffective after all?
Now, MS is ahead 46-12. So, what does all of that actually mean? All it means is that the advertising campaigns appear to have been effective, which is all that I said it meant. There was considerable talk here that MS's ads were no good, but it seems that they were. No big deal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ads not so ineffective after all?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Chris Dunfordseed...@gmail.com wrote: All it means is that the advertising campaigns appear to have been effective, which is all that I said it meant. There was considerable talk here that MS's ads were no good, but it seems that they were. No big deal. The ads were good at showing that folks who have little or no computing experience and who want a cheap computer, the main point of the ads, and are willing to place their entire confidence in the hands of a big box store salesperson, the secondary point of the ads, will likely end up getting a Windows machine. For those who shop in that manner, the ads will work. Ads on TV for soon to be released movies also work, and those films that are thus exposed to the (primarily youthful) public ALWAYS lead the list of the highest grossing movies in the immediate aftermath. Most of those films suck eggs, but that is not what matters, is it? I am not equating Windows machines with egg sucking movies, but I am saying that advertising is advertising, movies are movies and computers are computers. In the case of either movies or computers, the quality of and satisfaction with the product does not necessarily parallel the hype and results of the advertising. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
