Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The only problem with Apples model is that it takes all choice away 
from the consumer and gives Apple the ability to tell you what is 
safe and secure according to the,.


In re listening to the broadcast this morning I remember one quote.

It is interesting to note that Apple has changed its name to Apple 
Inc. and dropped computer.


Stewart

At 01:40 PM 2/4/2010, you wrote:

If you don't want safe and secure you can go buy an Android phone.
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Re: [CGUYS] Digital humanity (was: apple-stanza-usb)

2010-02-05 Thread Roger D. Parish

At 11:05 AM -0500 2/4/10, Constance Warner wrote:


[snippage]
P.S.: And if you want to continue to use GPS, you might drop a note 
to your Congressperson about funding for NASA.  GPS depends on a set 
of aging satellites and, AFAIK, there are no replacements in the 
pipeline.




The GPS system is owned and operated by the U.S. Air Force. NASA has 
nothing to do with GPS, other than being a possible customer/user.

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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread mike
They have been noting that for years.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:



 It is interesting to note that Apple has changed its name to Apple Inc. and
 dropped computer.




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Re: [CGUYS] Digital humanity (was: apple-stanza-usb)

2010-02-05 Thread Constance Warner
Then write your congressperson about the GPS system in general.  And  
NASA is the main agency in the satellite business (cf. the weather  
satellites we all depend on) and could well launch the replacements  
for GPS, if any.

On Feb 5, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Roger D. Parish wrote:


At 11:05 AM -0500 2/4/10, Constance Warner wrote:


[snippage]
P.S.: And if you want to continue to use GPS, you might drop a  
note to your Congressperson about funding for NASA.  GPS depends  
on a set of aging satellites and, AFAIK, there are no replacements  
in the pipeline.




The GPS system is owned and operated by the U.S. Air Force. NASA  
has nothing to do with GPS, other than being a possible customer/user.

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[CGUYS] Laptop flicker and dying battery

2010-02-05 Thread John Emmerling
Hi,

My son's almost 3 year old Latitude has developed a flicker which makes it
only marginally usable.

In case this was due to a software problem (although most likely not, as I
believe I can see this in the BIOS setup screen), I offered to reinstall the
OS.

When I booted the computer, I saw a message saying Your battery is able to
charge normally, however it is reaching the end of its usable life.  Could
a dying battery possibly cause the screen to flicker?

--John Emmerling


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread chad evans wyatt
Brilliant post, Betty.  I wonder how many millions sit on the sideline, 
awaiting an iPhone for the rest of us.  I have no quarrel with Apple preserving 
its control over apps, fine.  It will be interesting to see, once the contract 
with ATT is ended, whether Apple will make its device more universal, allowing 
exchangeable sim cards.  Do that, and the iPhone becomes a monster, rivaling 
Nokia in its best years.  Perhaps the iPad might follow suit, rendering the 
comparative discussion with other similar platforms moot.  But, hey, I'm not 
holding my breath.

Wireless appears to be the new received wisdom.

--- On Thu, 2/4/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 1:34 PM


The iPhone was a step backwards, missing essential features. While the OS is 
very user-friendly, its ties to one network are troublesome. I understand that 
when you unlock a US version iPhone, some important features break, even with 
ATT. It has limited storage, while other companies realize that limiting 
storage by the size of a card instead of installed memory is
 better than wasting a lot of time storing data online where it may not be 
available at all times, especially when you need it. The iPad is another step 
backwards because it isn't compatible with other US GSM networks.

Apple is making their portable devices more closed than their computers by 
limiting the applications that can be used on them. Of course, there are over 
100,000 iPhone apps, does Apple have to approve each one? Why not simply say 
'application source untrusted' instead and let users choose.

Do the MacBook Pro notebooks still have USB and FireWire? Lack of FireWire has 
driven people from MacBooks to the Pro notebooks. Wired transfer is often more 
reliable than wireless.

What's wrong with wires? Is it an aesthetic thing instead of anything to do 
with operability? Steve Jobs is all about aesthetics over utility--both 
together will be better. If you have to go to a computer with iTunes to change 
the data on an iPad, what
 difference does it make if it's with or without wires? Yes, you can download 
apps, or upload data [I assume], but ultimately a computer is involved.

Is increased use of wireless safe to our health? or our wallets?


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Stewart Marshall
There has been much talk about the Iphone coming onto the Verizon 
network, but with the introduction of the Ipad and it's being tied 
into the ATT network it looks like a dead issue.


I don't want to get into an argument over Verizon/ATT but opening it 
up to more networks seems to be the key.


I will be honest, if it came to the Verizon network in the next 6 
months I might jump on it.  But I need Verizon where I live to get 
good coverage.  ATT does not cut it.  (That is not from me but from 
ATT customers, and Altell soon to be ATT customers)


Especially if they sold it at the $99.00 mark, I am due for a new 
phone in the next month!


Stewart


At 09:40 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
Brilliant post, Betty.  I wonder how many millions sit on the 
sideline, awaiting an iPhone for the rest of us.  I have no quarrel 
with Apple preserving its control over apps, fine.  It will be 
interesting to see, once the contract with ATT is ended, whether 
Apple will make its device more universal, allowing exchangeable sim 
cards.  Do that, and the iPhone becomes a monster, rivaling Nokia in 
its best years.  Perhaps the iPad might follow suit, rendering the 
comparative discussion with other similar platforms moot.  But, hey, 
I'm not holding my breath.


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I read that Apple had talks with ATT and with Verizon, but ATT out bid
Verizon.  I think Apple agrees with your premise; exclusive provider
can't get them the market share they want.  So I think it is a matter of
when, not if.

Thank you, 
Mark Snyder 
-Original Message-
There has been much talk about the Iphone coming onto the Verizon 
network, but with the introduction of the Ipad and it's being tied 
into the ATT network it looks like a dead issue.

I don't want to get into an argument over Verizon/ATT but opening it 
up to more networks seems to be the key.

I will be honest, if it came to the Verizon network in the next 6 
months I might jump on it.  But I need Verizon where I live to get 
good coverage.  ATT does not cut it.  (That is not from me but from 
ATT customers, and Altell soon to be ATT customers)

Especially if they sold it at the $99.00 mark, I am due for a new 
phone in the next month!


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Re: [CGUYS] A visit from NSA

2010-02-05 Thread John DeCarlo
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 PM, chad evans wyatt cewyattph...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Anyone know about this?  New, or simply more transparency?



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 WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security
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This is years and years old.  Telephone companies as ISPs providing
everything that went across their networks to the Feds.  Terabytes a day.

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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I got a netbook last fall, and carry it with me when I have to take 
my wife to the doctor etc.  I usually have no connectivity anywhere 
as I do not carry a separate data plan for wireless.


There is no such thing as a public wifi here.

I agree with you Betty, it is not a viable option for many folks 
unless you live in a dense, high urban area.


The problem is no one usually looks at that problem, they ignore it, 
as we are not the income levels, nor the interest levels for them,!!!


Stewart


At 10:13 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
Mike, you mentioned the cloud. I rarely consider it since I don't 
live, work or travel where it's universally available.


The discussion began with the iPad and connectivity. The iPad has no 
USB except through the dock port, which could be good or bad 
depending on individual use. Then it merged with another topic about 
Apple restricting use of USB for one of its iPhone/Touch apps. 
They're related in that restrictions of USB limit user choices, 
whether a user chooses the newest tech or horse and buggy. The 
choices exist now. Apple doesn't like those choices.


I don't care about floppy disks or Zip or parallel ports. However 
it's important to consider that there are large areas even in 
densely populated northeastern US that are cellular and WiFi dead 
zones. Where I live it's a Verizon and T-Mobile dead zone; ATT users 
get one bar, on a good day; don't know any Sprint users nearby. More 
of the country is like it is here than not, with one or more 
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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread b_s-wilk

You are changing the parameters to win an argument.  No one, least of all me
said use the cloud for backup.  We are specifically talking about cell
phones...


Mike, you mentioned the cloud. I rarely consider it since I don't live, 
work or travel where it's universally available.


The discussion began with the iPad and connectivity. The iPad has no USB 
except through the dock port, which could be good or bad depending on 
individual use. Then it merged with another topic about Apple 
restricting use of USB for one of its iPhone/Touch apps. They're related 
in that restrictions of USB limit user choices, whether a user chooses 
the newest tech or horse and buggy. The choices exist now. Apple doesn't 
like those choices.


I don't care about floppy disks or Zip or parallel ports. However it's 
important to consider that there are large areas even in densely 
populated northeastern US that are cellular and WiFi dead zones. Where I 
live it's a Verizon and T-Mobile dead zone; ATT users get one bar, on a 
good day; don't know any Sprint users nearby. More of the country is 
like it is here than not, with one or more cellular networks 
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Re: [CGUYS] RRe: apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

It is a both and.

Amazon opened the ,market and did not DRM the files but still has 
control of the files, but they dictated the price of the 
book.  Publishers did not like this as they felt Amazon was 
underpricing new releases and did not want this.  Similar to the 
distributors of movies (MGM etc.,) who has locked out Redbox, and is 
now reaching agreements with Netflix to delay the release of rentals 
for new releases.  They felt that by flooding the market with rentals 
they diluted sales of new releases which typically sell more in the 
first month.


Here comes Apple which enforces DRM pretty strongly and then allows 
publishers to set their own price mark for the books.


That is where the two sides are having the disagreement.  Cost of books.

Stewart


At 12:04 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:

I think that publisher had its fight with Amazon over the issue of
who controls the pricing.  Apple isn't locking out any other e-book
vendors.  Their books will use the open ePub format, so just like
you can do now with non-DRMed MPG and AAC files, you
probably will be able to buy books from many vendors and import
them into iTunes to put them on your iPad.  For proprietary formats
like Amazon's, there is already a Kindle Book App for iPhone and
supposedly a forthcoming Nook app.  If their makers are smart
they will scale the apps up to the iPad, since they wouldn't want
to lose content sales.

I am more worried about DRM.  I think it would be ideal if Apple
were able to handle books the same way they do their music,
which is to not have DRM but to tag the content with account
information to discourage abuse.  But the publishers may insist
on something stronger than that, like they mostly do for video
content.


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Re: [CGUYS] Digital humanity (was: apple-stanza-usb)

2010-02-05 Thread tjpa

On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Constance Warner wrote:
Then write your congressperson about the GPS system in general.  And  
NASA is the main agency in the satellite business (cf. the weather  
satellites we all depend on) and could well launch the replacements  
for GPS, if any.


Actually the Russian space agency provides this service at lower cost  
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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread tjpa

On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

There is no such thing as a public wifi here.


You really don't have a McDonalds nearby? Unbelievable!


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread tjpa

On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
The only problem with Apples model is that it takes all choice away  
from the consumer and gives Apple the ability to tell you what is  
safe and secure according to the,.


Not true. You can always buy a malware infested Droid. Their  
capabilities are very much like Apple's except they don't have an app  
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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Tom serious question how far out of DC have you traveled and have you 
ever spent an appreciable amount of time in the midwest?


Stewart



At 01:35 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
I seriously doubt that there are large areas even in densely

populated northeastern US that are cellular and WiFi dead zones. The
only dead zones I have encountered have been underground and in
heavily shielded buildings. And those areas are in the process of
getting wired.

I'm sorry if you can't get G3 in Death Valley, but you really should
not live there. If you still choose to do so due to other benefits,
that is a free choice you are making. Limited resources should be
directed at improving services in areas where there are actual people
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[CGUYS] RRe: apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread David K Watson
I think that publisher had its fight with Amazon over the issue of 
who controls the pricing.  Apple isn't locking out any other e-book 
vendors.  Their books will use the open ePub format, so just like 
you can do now with non-DRMed MPG and AAC files, you 
probably will be able to buy books from many vendors and import 
them into iTunes to put them on your iPad.  For proprietary formats 
like Amazon's, there is already a Kindle Book App for iPhone and 
supposedly a forthcoming Nook app.  If their makers are smart 
they will scale the apps up to the iPad, since they wouldn't want 
to lose content sales.  

I am more worried about DRM.  I think it would be ideal if Apple 
were able to handle books the same way they do their music, 
which is to not have DRM but to tag the content with account 
information to discourage abuse.  But the publishers may insist 
on something stronger than that, like they mostly do for video 
content.  


 From:mike xha...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: apple-stanza-usb
 
 I think perhaps it's just that I see the ipod touch/iphone as the start of
 the revolution and you may see the ipad as the start.  Either way, Apple is
 leading the charge on this again as they did on mp3, I just hope the content
 wars over ipads/kindles/tablets don't cause more casualties on the customer
 side, gaining 'innovation' at the cost of control.  The publisher who pulled
 out of amazon for (probably) the ipad worries me more than I'm hopeful in
 what the ipad might bring.
 
 On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) 
 mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote:


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I can only hope but the longer they hold out the less of a chance of 
folks being eager to get it.


There is another Motorola Android being introduced in March by Verizon.

Plus with the intro of the Ipad, they are again tying themselves into 
a network that cannot (according to ATT) handle the traffic generated.


The agreement on the Iphone is up this year and there has been a lot 
of talk, but nothing appears on the horizon yet.


Stewart




At 10:43 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote:

I read that Apple had talks with ATT and with Verizon, but ATT out bid
Verizon.  I think Apple agrees with your premise; exclusive provider
can't get them the market share they want.  So I think it is a matter of
when, not if.

Thank you,
Mark Snyder


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[CGUYS] Troubleshooting Win7 Devices and Printers

2010-02-05 Thread Quentin A. Fisher
When I select this from the menu (in order to set a default printer) the little 
green scroll bar moves SLOWLY to the right but never gets all the way. Even 
after 24 hours! I have a scanner and two printers, and both work well; its only 
this devices and printers manager that hangs up.
 
Anyone have an  idea where to even start to troubleshoot this annoyance?
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Bethesda, MD
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Re: [CGUYS] Digital humanity (was: apple-stanza-usb)

2010-02-05 Thread Constance Warner

Actually, launching stuff on cut-rate vehicles has its perils.

My brother worked for ten years on a project that got launched on a  
cut-rate, non-NASA launch vehicle--there was political pressure to  
show cost savings at the time.


You guessed it: straight into the Pacific; straight to the bottom  
with some very expensive gear and ten years' time of numerous  
scientists and engineers.


And I don't expect the Air Force to ask the Russians to launch  
sensitive gear with military applications and, no doubt, lots of  
military secrets.  Let's not forget that GPS was originally for  
military use only.  But with the satellites up there, civilian  
companies started building GPS gear, and the rest is history.

On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:23 PM, tjpa wrote:


On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Constance Warner wrote:
Then write your congressperson about the GPS system in general.   
And NASA is the main agency in the satellite business (cf. the  
weather satellites we all depend on) and could well launch the  
replacements for GPS, if any.


Actually the Russian space agency provides this service at lower  
cost and greater accuracy (because it has not been deliberately  
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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
So you are stating (I am just trying to be clear) that Android out 
the door is a malware infested OS.


And that apple limits the apps for their Iphone because it is so easy 
to hack?


Just want to be clear here.

Stewart



At 01:53 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:

On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

The only problem with Apples model is that it takes all choice away
from the consumer and gives Apple the ability to tell you what is
safe and secure according to the,.


Not true. You can always buy a malware infested Droid. Their
capabilities are very much like Apple's except they don't have an app
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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread tjpa

On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
So you are stating (I am just trying to be clear) that Android out  
the door is a malware infested OS.
And that apple limits the apps for their Iphone because it is so  
easy to hack?

Just want to be clear here.


You just made that up.


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread mike
It's crazy stuff like this that makes it impossible to believe anything you
say.   You've admitted you don't use an iPhone or any kind of smartphone yet
you are full of 'facts'.   Then when you may actually have a point, we are
left to wonder id its true or just more Tom troll.

On Feb 5, 2010 12:59 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:   The only
problem with Apples model is t...
Not true. You can always buy a malware infested Droid. Their capabilities
are very much like Apple's except they don't have an app review process.
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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Tom you may or may not believe this, but yes I do have a Mickey D's 
close by but they have not installed free WIFI yet.


I anticipate them to be the last among McD's to install it.

Stewart


At 01:37 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:

On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

There is no such thing as a public wifi here.


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Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 3 Feb 2010 to 4 Feb 2010 - Special issue (#2010-82)

2010-02-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com
 wrote:

 Thanks, David!  I will check it out.

 Thank you,
 Mark Snyder
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Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 3 Feb 2010 to 4 Feb 2010 - Special issue (#2010-82)

2010-02-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Make sure you have the most current real player.  There apparently was a
real nasty exploit in the wild.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com
 wrote:

 Thanks, David!  I will check it out.

 Thank you,
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Re: [CGUYS] Laptop flicker and dying battery

2010-02-05 Thread Tony B
Unlikely, but then I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a flicker -
presumably a video problem. Anyway, if it's plugged in what difference
would it make. Also, you don't need to reinstall the OS to test for a
video problem - simply sitting in the BIOS might tell you, or a disk
based OS like Ubuntu.

BTW it's probably normal for a three year old battery to be nearing
the end of it's useful life.


On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I booted the computer, I saw a message saying Your battery is able to
 charge normally, however it is reaching the end of its usable life.  Could
 a dying battery possibly cause the screen to flicker?


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Re: [CGUYS] Troubleshooting Win7 Devices and Printers

2010-02-05 Thread Tony B
You can try running chkdsk and defrag. You don't have any old network
printers that have been removed that it could be looking for? Also
some info at 
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9063060/How_to_prevent_Windows_Vista_s_green_ribbon_of_death_
.


On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Quentin A. Fisher
quentin.fis...@verizon.net wrote:
 When I select this from the menu (in order to set a default printer) the 
 little green scroll bar moves SLOWLY to the right but never gets all the way. 
 Even after 24 hours! I have a scanner and two printers, and both work well; 
 its only this devices and printers manager that hangs up.

 Anyone have an  idea where to even start to troubleshoot this annoyance?


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

No Tom I learned it from you. :-)

Stewart


At 02:33 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:

On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

So you are stating (I am just trying to be clear) that Android out
the door is a malware infested OS.
And that apple limits the apps for their Iphone because it is so
easy to hack?
Just want to be clear here.


You just made that up.


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread t.piwowar

On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:02 PM, mike wrote:
It's crazy stuff like this that makes it impossible to believe  
anything you
say.   You've admitted you don't use an iPhone or any kind of  
smartphone yet
you are full of 'facts'.   Then when you may actually have a point,  
we are

left to wonder id its true or just more Tom troll


There you go again. When you are wrong on the facts to start attacking  
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[CGUYS] Micro SIM card [was: apple-stanza-usb]

2010-02-05 Thread b_s-wilk
I wonder how many millions sit on the sideline, 
awaiting an iPhone for the rest of us.  I have no quarrel with Apple preserving 
its control over apps, fine.  It will be interesting to see, once the contract 
with ATT is ended, whether Apple will make its device more universal, allowing 
exchangeable sim cards.  


Other GSM providers have been testing the micro SIMs, but in a quick 
search, I don't see vendors for blank micro SIM cards. I can clone my 
network's SIM, but can't clone to micro SIM. When these clone devices 
are available, you'll be able to put your new SIM into an iPad, but it 
probably won't do 3G unless you use ATT. The new iPhone will probably 
use the new SIM, too.


Apple's iPad/iPhone won't be more universal until they support 3G 
frequencies that all US GSM providers use. Will they add frequencies 
when the ATT contract ends? Maybe--not likely in the US. Is there an 
affordable GSM MiFi?



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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread mike
Back up what you are talking about.  A link..something.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:02 PM, mike wrote:

 It's crazy stuff like this that makes it impossible to believe anything
 you
 say.   You've admitted you don't use an iPhone or any kind of smartphone
 yet
 you are full of 'facts'.   Then when you may actually have a point, we are
 left to wonder id its true or just more Tom troll


 There you go again. When you are wrong on the facts to start attacking
 people.



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Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-02-05 Thread John Emmerling
IIRC, the line terminator for text files on Apple computers used to be
a carriage return.

On unix, it has always been a line feed.  I wonder what it is, now
that the OS is based on unix.

I believe that \r is an escape sequence to represent a carriage
return.  That might give a clue as to why this happened?

Can't you see this file in the Finder and just drag it to the trash
bin?  Since when are Apple computers so command-line intensive?

On 1/27/10, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:03 AM, John Emmerling wrote:
 rm -i Icon\\r
 rm -i 'Icon\\r'
 rm -i Icon\r
 rm -i 'Icon\r'

 Alas no.

 Even the dread rm * fails to conquer.

 The backslash is an escape character. The idiots actually have a
 control character in the filename.


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Re: [CGUYS] Digital humanity (was: apple-stanza-usb)

2010-02-05 Thread Eric S. Sande
Actually the Russian space agency provides this service at lower cost  and 
greater accuracy (because it has not been deliberately dumbed

down by the generals).


Don't get too confused on this.  GPS is a strategic necessity.  Or something 
like it is.  The US doesn't depend on the Russians for strategic 
necessities.


What goes on at NASA is for public consumption.  What goes on
in the military arena is a totally different kettle of fish, IMHO.


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Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-02-05 Thread t.piwowar

On Jan 27, 2010, at 1:05 PM, John Emmerling wrote:

Can't you see this file in the Finder and just drag it to the trash
bin?  Since when are Apple computers so command-line intensive?


It was really strange. The \r was a control character that the Finder  
would never allow in a file name. Still the other parts of the Finder  
and the CLI should not have gone berserk just because it was there.  
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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread t.piwowar

On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Constance Warner wrote:
I've got a national provider and I'm still waiting for access in the  
subway.  No plans for wiring Metro yet, AFAIK.  I can't even get  
digital roaming.  I can't afford to switch, because the plan I have  
is one of the few for which you don't sign a contract--if I cease to  
be able to pay for it, I certainly can't afford a cancellation fee.


What provider? I've got T-Mobile and as of the Fall I've now got  
underground service at the major underground stations and they are  
adding stations at a steady pace.



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Re: [CGUYS] Google: evil, indifferent or disorganized?

2010-02-05 Thread t.piwowar

On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:05 PM, David K Watson wrote:

Also, because of the many Android OS versions and hardware
models, there is no guarantee that any particular Android app will  
work on
any given Android phone.  People like choice, sure, but they also  
need a

degree of certainty to base their choices on.


You must consider that Google is new to consumer hardware and Apple  
has had decades of experience in this arena. Google is going to have  
to learn many important lessons via the school of hard knocks.



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Re: [CGUYS] print simple list of albums with artist name without folderol !! ...sheesh!

2010-02-05 Thread b_s-wilk

I have xphomesp3 and wmp10 and would like to print a simple list of albums
and artist name without folderol .sheesh!  I put on winter 2003 fun pack
which contains media exporter which neatly does it but lists every song and
every track and belches forth 114 pages to print .all I want is 1 or 2 page
list with album name and artist .is that too much to ask ??
.sonya-henny's-toutou !!  .that billgates must be laughin'


VLC can export a simple playlist as HTML or XML. iTunes exports a little 
more detailed playlist, depending on the columns that are visible in 
that list. You can import the data from audio files into VLC and iTunes 
without moving or copying the files. Mac or Windows should let you drag 
and drop the files into the Music library for playlist export or for 
printing.


In the iTunes dialog box you can choose to print any of these:
- CD jewel box insert [8 styles]
- song list with 4 sorting choices
- album list [by album or song name]

When you're done and you want to use your original media player, simply 
sort the main Music Library by date and delete the entries [without 
deleting the files from your drive]. It's easier than it sounds. I 
assume that the Windows version of iTunes also has the same choices as 
my Mac version.


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-02-05 Thread tjpa

On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:32 AM, mike wrote:
Why does it matter what someone was doing on the cell phone?
Shouldn't
using it be enough?  Start worrying about what they were doing and  
suddenly

our idiot lawmakers will make it so certain apps are exempt.


This is just a M$ plot to suppress sales of the Jesus Tablet. Make  
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Re: [CGUYS] print simple list of albums with artist name without folderol !! ...sheesh!

2010-02-05 Thread chad evans wyatt
Related:  VLC is seamless in allowing region code free DVD playback.

--- On Fri, 2/5/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] print simple list of albums with artist name without 
folderol !! ...sheesh!
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 11:07 PM

 I have xphomesp3 and wmp10 and would like to print a simple list of albums
 and artist name without folderol .sheesh!  I put on winter 2003 fun pack
 which contains media exporter which neatly does it but lists every song and
 every track and belches forth 114 pages to print .all I want is 1 or 2 page
 list with album name and artist .is that too much to ask ??
 .sonya-henny's-toutou !!  .that billgates must be laughin'

VLC can export a simple playlist as HTML or XML. iTunes exports a little more 
detailed playlist, depending on the columns that are visible in that list. You 
can import the data from audio files into VLC and iTunes without moving or 
copying the files. Mac or Windows should let you drag and drop the files into 
the Music library for playlist export or for printing.

In the iTunes dialog box you can choose to print any of these:
    - CD jewel box insert [8 styles]
    - song list with 4 sorting choices
    - album list [by album or song name]

When you're done and you want to use your original media player, simply sort 
the main Music Library by date and delete the entries [without deleting the 
files from your drive]. It's easier than it sounds. I assume that the Windows 
version of iTunes also has the same choices as my Mac version.

Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-05 Thread Constance Warner
Does it matter what provider?  I don't have underground service and I  
can't afford to switch.


It's not a huge loss--I certainly don't lose any sleep over it.  The  
main point is that cell/wireless service isn't as good or as  
universally available as it's cracked up to be, even in an area  
that's wired to the gills and that has lots of affluent customers  
willing to pay for high-end service.


On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:36 PM, t.piwowar wrote:


On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Constance Warner wrote:
I've got a national provider and I'm still waiting for access in  
the subway.  No plans for wiring Metro yet, AFAIK.  I can't even  
get digital roaming.  I can't afford to switch, because the plan I  
have is one of the few for which you don't sign a contract--if I  
cease to be able to pay for it, I certainly can't afford a  
cancellation fee.


What provider? I've got T-Mobile and as of the Fall I've now got  
underground service at the major underground stations and they are  
adding stations at a steady pace.



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