Re: [CGUYS] ACER beeping

2008-11-23 Thread Tom Piwowar
Recommend getting NERO Info Tool (free) to determine motherboard and BIOS. 
My ACER is ACER board with Phoenix BIOS.

If Acer uses Phoenix BIOS on one they probably use Phoenix BIOS on many 
if not all. So info on what beep codes are and what they mean for a 
Phoenix BIOS is at: www.computerhope.com/beep.htm


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Re: [CGUYS] ACER beeping

2008-11-23 Thread Richard P.
I have two WinXP PC's (Compaq and eMachines), which don't sound out
beep codes. Is this an option or are they just turned off? Are beep
codes no longer needed?

Thanks,

Richard P.


So info on what beep codes are and what they mean for a
 Phoenix BIOS is at: www.computerhope.com/beep.htm


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Re: [CGUYS] ACER beeping

2008-11-23 Thread Brian Jones
I have yet to see a PC BIOS that does not do this  It is the way that 
the motherboard communicates a problem when the problem prevents normal 
communication (like text on the screen).  It could be as simple as a 
mis-seated memory stick, or as serious as a damaged interface chip.  The 
newer Dell's 'beep' when they see a non-Dell keyboard attached, even though 
the keybord works fine!  Since you don't hear anything, then there is no 
problem to report.

 - Brian



I have two WinXP PC's (Compaq and eMachines), which don't sound out
beep codes. Is this an option or are they just turned off? Are beep
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Re: [CGUYS] ACER beeping

2008-11-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Both.

Many do not have speakers on board or anyway to give you a beep 
code.  Second they may also be dead.


The beep code was a BIOS way of telling you there was an on board problem.

Stewart


At 02:04 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:

I have two WinXP PC's (Compaq and eMachines), which don't sound out
beep codes. Is this an option or are they just turned off? Are beep
codes no longer needed?

Thanks,

Richard P.


So info on what beep codes are and what they mean for a
 Phoenix BIOS is at: www.computerhope.com/beep.htm


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Re: [CGUYS] ACER beeping

2008-11-23 Thread Fred Holmes
Classic (Legacy?) beep codes produce a single beep at the end of a successful 
Power On Self Test.

Fred Holmes


At 03:20 PM 11/23/2008, Brian Jones wrote:
I have yet to see a PC BIOS that does not do this  It is the way that the 
motherboard communicates a problem when the problem prevents normal 
communication (like text on the screen).  It could be as simple as a 
mis-seated memory stick, or as serious as a damaged interface chip.  The newer 
Dell's 'beep' when they see a non-Dell keyboard attached, even though the 
keybord works fine!  Since you don't hear anything, then there is no problem 
to report.
 - Brian


I have two WinXP PC's (Compaq and eMachines), which don't sound out
beep codes. Is this an option or are they just turned off? Are beep
codes no longer needed?


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Re: [CGUYS] ACER beeping

2008-11-23 Thread Richard P.
I'm assuming that the speaker would be on the motherboard. Would it be
readily apparent?

Richard P.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Both.

 Many do not have speakers on board or anyway to give you a beep code.
  Second they may also be dead.

 The beep code was a BIOS way of telling you there was an on board problem.

 Stewart


 At 02:04 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:

 I have two WinXP PC's (Compaq and eMachines), which don't sound out
 beep codes. Is this an option or are they just turned off? Are beep
 codes no longer needed?

 Thanks,

 Richard P.


 So info on what beep codes are and what they mean for a
  Phoenix BIOS is at: www.computerhope.com/beep.htm


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Re: [CGUYS] ACER beeping

2008-11-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It might be.  On the old ones you connected an external speaker to 
the motherboard.  I have not looked closely on the newer ones.


Stewart


At 09:02 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:

I'm assuming that the speaker would be on the motherboard. Would it be
readily apparent?

Richard P.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Both.

 Many do not have speakers on board or anyway to give you a beep code.
  Second they may also be dead.

 The beep code was a BIOS way of telling you there was an on board problem.

 Stewart


 At 02:04 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:

 I have two WinXP PC's (Compaq and eMachines), which don't sound out
 beep codes. Is this an option or are they just turned off? Are beep
 codes no longer needed?

 Thanks,

 Richard P.


 So info on what beep codes are and what they mean for a
  Phoenix BIOS is at: www.computerhope.com/beep.htm


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[CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Tony B
Everyone's answer will depend a lot on what level of technical
expertise you have, but you haven't really made that clear. I mean,
have you already tried exhaustive web searches to turn up the beep
codes for Acers? Have you tried pulling all the USB devices/cards/RAM?

You may prefer to take it to a local computer shop (e.g. Staples).


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a (hardware) problem.? My computer - Acer Desktop Aspire E571 with 
 Windows Vista - beeps at turn on.? the monitor does not come on unless I turn 
 it off and then on and then it only stays on for a few seconds.? The beeping 
 continues in 4 second intervals with a? 2 second silence in between.? The 
 computer is 1.5 yrs old and out of warrenty.? Where to take the unit? or can 
 I do something myself?? I've done all the fixes? - plugged and unplugged, 
 etc.

 thanks for your help.

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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
You may prefer to take it to a local computer shop (e.g. Staples).

Is that part a joke or have you discovered something we should know?


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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Tony B
Sorry. I thought Staples had a computer repair service. Am I thinking
of Best Buy? I dunno, as I do this type of work myself.


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You may prefer to take it to a local computer shop (e.g. Staples).

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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Mike Sloane
Based on my observations of the quality of service at the big box 
electronic chain stores, you might as well fold your money into the 
shape of a boat and set it adrift on the Potomac. Those folks are in the 
business of selling you new Stuff, not repairing anything. You would be 
much better off finding a local guy whose reputation can be checked. 
(just my opinion, of course)


Mike

Tony B wrote:

Sorry. I thought Staples had a computer repair service. Am I thinking
of Best Buy? I dunno, as I do this type of work myself.


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You may prefer to take it to a local computer shop (e.g. Staples).

Is that part a joke or have you discovered something we should know?





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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Agreed.  They either want to sell you something or they wipe out any 
information you have and do a reload.


Find a local person who does work.

Not too long ago, even that was not good enough for one of my members.

My organist asked me what to do not so long ago, as their computer 
had died and the local shop told them they needed a new motherboard.


I told her let me look at the worst would happen is that I get her 
another motherboard.


Turns out they simply powered it up and told her she needed a new 
motherboard.  The extra video card that had been added had fired the 
cooling fan and shorted.  Replaced the video card and they were back 
up and running.


Stewart


At 12:21 PM 11/22/2008, you wrote:
Based on my observations of the quality of service at the big box 
electronic chain stores, you might as well fold your money into the 
shape of a boat and set it adrift on the Potomac. Those folks are in 
the business of selling you new Stuff, not repairing anything. You 
would be much better off finding a local guy whose reputation can be 
checked. (just my opinion, of course)


Mike


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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Richard P.
Staples does have a computer repair service but it's not marketed yet.
It's called Staple's Easy Tech:

http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/marketing/easytech/fix.html

They are planning a mass marketing soon. Don't have any experience
with them but all this info is direct from a Staple's manager.

Richard P.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry. I thought Staples had a computer repair service. Am I thinking
 of Best Buy? I dunno, as I do this type of work myself.


 On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You may prefer to take it to a local computer shop (e.g. Staples).

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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
They are planning a mass marketing soon. Don't have any experience
with them but all this info is direct from a Staple's manager.

Well shouldn't Tony have them fix his computers a few times before he 
sends one of our innocent list members over there to be shorn?

So to get back to business, does anyone know which set of beep codes is 
used by Acer?


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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread John DeCarlo
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So to get back to business, does anyone know which set of beep codes is
 used by Acer?


This site may have some clues:

http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/laptop-support/163870-acer-aspire-5100-three-beeps-no-screen-boot.html

I recommend the original poster count carefully and look for text that may
indicate whether it is AMI, Phoenix, or some other BIOS.


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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Tony B
Do you have some evidence Staples will try to clip the OP or are you
just pulling that out of your butt?

The vast majority of computer users aren't interested in researching
beep codes or opening their case. Take it to someone is the best
advice I can give her so far. If she reports back with a lot of
technical expertise, that advice may change.


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They are planning a mass marketing soon. Don't have any experience
with them but all this info is direct from a Staple's manager.

 Well shouldn't Tony have them fix his computers a few times before he
 sends one of our innocent list members over there to be shorn?


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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
The vast majority of computer users aren't interested in researching
beep codes or opening their case. Take it to someone is the best
advice I can give her so far. If she reports back with a lot of
technical expertise, that advice may change.

I can't and won't quarrel with Take it to someone. But telling someone 
to go to Staples or any big box store is not something you do. Even big 
box stores, like Micro Center, that specialize only in computers are very 
unlikely to treat the customer well.

I just Googled arlington va computer repair and got a bunch of hits 
that look like they are small businesses. 

I also note that yelp.com has an IT Services  Computer Repair category 
that has several reviews.

The guy I used to recommend (AllNet) looks to have closed. Too bad, he 
was good and treated customers very fairly. Anybody know if he just moved?


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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread RLeeSimon
This sounds like some kinda problem with the boot sequence ...if it's a
windows xp machine, try booting with repeated press of F8 to get to the boot
selection screen and select boot last known stable configuration and if
that works, you are good to go...

-Original Message-
From: Tony B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Acer beeping


Everyone's answer will depend a lot on what level of technical expertise you
have, but you haven't really made that clear. I mean, have you already tried
exhaustive web searches to turn up the beep codes for Acers? Have you tried
pulling all the USB devices/cards/RAM?

You may prefer to take it to a local computer shop (e.g. Staples).


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a (hardware) problem.? My computer - Acer Desktop Aspire E571 
 with Windows Vista - beeps at turn on.? the monitor does not come on 
 unless I turn it off and then on and then it only stays on for a few 
 seconds.? The beeping continues in 4 second intervals with a? 2 second 
 silence in between.? The computer is 1.5 yrs old and out of warrenty.? 
 Where to take the unit? or can I do something myself?? I've done all 
 the fixes? - plugged and unplugged, etc.

 thanks for your help.

 gwen


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[CGUYS] ACER beeping

2008-11-22 Thread Henry Bruhl
Recommend getting NERO Info Tool (free) to determine motherboard and BIOS. My 
ACER is ACER board with Phoenix BIOS.

http://www.nero.com/enu/support-nero8-tools-utilities.html



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Re: [CGUYS] Acer beeping

2008-11-22 Thread RLeeSimon
I am not familiar with vista ...why not ask in the group if that same option
would be available ...or else, boot pressing F8 repeatedly right through the
boot from the very start before you see windows at all and see if that
choice is there which, if shown, will not hurt anything... but, the group
members are much, MUCH, smarter than myself ...good luck!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 4:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Acer beeping


I have windows vista -  any other ideas?


-Original Message-
From: RLeeSimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Computer Guys Discussion List' COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 4:20 pm
Subject: RE: Acer beeping


This sounds like some kinda problem with the boot sequence ...if it's a

windows xp machine, try booting with repeated press of F8 to get to the boot

selection screen and select boot last known stable configuration and if

that works, you are good to go...



-Original Message-

From: Tony B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:16 AM

Subject: Acer beeping





Everyone's answer will depend a lot on what level of technical expertise you

have, but you haven't really made that clear. I mean, have you already tried

exhaustive web searches to turn up the beep codes for Acers? Have you tried

pulling all the USB devices/cards/RAM?



You may prefer to take it to a local computer shop (e.g. Staples).





On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a (hardware) problem.? My computer - Acer Desktop Aspire E571 

 with Windows Vista - beeps at turn on.? the monitor does not come on 

 unless I turn it off and then on and then it only stays on for a few 

 seconds.? The beeping continues in 4 second intervals with a? 2 second 

 silence in between.? The computer is 1.5 yrs old and out of warrenty.? 

 Where to take the unit? or can I do something myself?? I've done all 

 the fixes? - plugged and unplugged, etc.



 thanks for your help.



 gwen





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