Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Mandated? No, no one in the guvmint told them to merge. XM and Sirius had to fight to get that. I suppose it would have been better that one or both of them went out of business instead, right? You have blinders on. Within the very same email you confirm what I wrote. You words are... Only 4

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-30 Thread Jeff Wright
To restate your words: The government decreed that there would be an oligopoly with only two players. They kept other players out. They created an $80,000,000 barrier to entry. No kidding. I didn't disagree with you. Maybe the FCC shouldn't be trying to make money by shaking down media

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
It's not a monopoly. It's one entertainment option among many. Saying that XM/Sirius is a monopoly is akin to arguing that WAMU is a monopoly because it's the only station that can broadcast at 88.5 MHz in the DC area. Calling their market segment entertainment option is disingenuous. You

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-29 Thread Jeff Wright
Calling their market segment entertainment option is disingenuous. You might as well call its market segment business entity. Sure we have plenty of those. Calling it a monopoly is even more disingenuous. See your list below to see their competition and tell me how a single satellite company

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-26 Thread Jeff Wright
In today's news we see the DOJ declaring that merging the only two satellite broadcasters into one would not be anticompetitive. I guess their logic is that a duopoly has been so anticompetitive that a monopoly could not be much worse? Yet one more example of why the USA is so far behind

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I agree with you. Where I live it is country or gospel all the time. Not what I want to listen too. Thank God for PBS, but even that gets old sometimes. Stewart At 06:53 AM 3/26/2008, you wrote: I see you're using National Association of Broadcasters logic: they don't compete against us,

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-26 Thread b_s-wilk
The biggest difference between France (Any European country) and the US in comparisons, is plums versus watermelons. The density of people in France is much higher than the density of our population. When you get away from the coasts, the density is much less. This handicaps any company

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I like your math Eric, it coincides with the math the others have been doing. Makes complete horse sense. :-) Lets just look at density per sq/mi. My state AL 84.83 Spain 231 France 295 La 102.59 Tx 79.6 The whole USA 80 (About 1/4 of Frances or Spains) Yup makes perfect sense to me!

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-26 Thread Eric S. Sande
Makes complete horse sense. :-) Except you have 10 more people per square mile in France than I do. Maybe they were on vacation when my numbers were collected. :-) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-26 Thread Eric S. Sande
I used Wikipedia, for quick dirty facts.. I rounded off. :-) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

[CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread betty
There's plenty of pie to go around but the broadband Internet providers are greedy--and they're lying so they can gouge their customers. Mostly they're afraid of becoming irrelevant, or obsolete when a new upstart gives us better deals at half the price. In Europe and Asia the speeds keep

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The biggest difference between France (Any European country) and the US in comparisons, is plums versus watermelons. The density of people in France is much higher than the density of our population. When you get away from the coasts, the density is much less. This handicaps any company

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Why is the United States _so_far_behind_ in speeds, choices, prices??? Time Warner is now regressing to metered service in Texas, just like the old-time metered dialup. American consumers don't know enough to demand better/more/cheaper service? Or there's just not enough competition, instead

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Neither one is making money as it is. Both of them had exclusive agreements with some content which made choosing impossible,. (I for one have held off until this time) Secondly they are competing against free radio as it is. Why pay for radio when you can get it for free. Plus with the

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread Ralph
Again Europe has a much higher population density than the US. Not fully comparable. (Plus their regulations and rules are different) That's the point: our regulations and rules should be more like the rest of the world's. I think it's that congress, the administration, and big business

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread db
I agree. The same thing is going on with the US economy. It's been apparent to me for some time that what the US is doing isn't working for the country as a whole but government won't change direction because of the big business lobby and its focus on self interest/ short term corporate

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
The density of people in France is much higher than the density of our population. Americans are denser. One would have to be pretty dense to keep voting for the same corrupt pols as they give away more and more of the country to the utlta-rich. The French did get it right fixing a similar

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread Eric S. Sande
Eric? Why so much for so little? Any way I answer that is bound to reveal me for the greedy capitalist that I am. The short answer is labor costs, regulatory requirements, and network maintenance overhead. If I can drive down any or all of those costs I can increase profits and lower prices.

Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US? [was: classic movie downloads]

2008-03-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Tom if you are willing to live under their laws that is OK by me. By the way all the personal intrusion laws you rail against are very European in nature!!! Stewart At 05:31 PM 3/25/2008, you wrote: The density of people in France is much higher than the density of our population.