Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Now you are being silly just to prove a point. Most people do not dual boot and may who try find themselves in a world of pain. As if you have a point. Who cares if most people don't? Most people don't use Macs, but that doesn't stop you from using them. You can dual boot between 32 and 64

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Do you understand binary numbers, Tony? A 32-bit binary number cannot go beyond 4,294,967,296 (4 gigabytes, 4*1024*1024*1024), so a 32-bit system cannot address more than 4 GB. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- The 4gb memory limit is just a Windows licensing issue though.

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Sloane
I have 3.5.2 installed on a PC running XP, and, when it works, it works fine. But every so often it just stops and sits there with an hourglass icon for a minute or more. I can do other things on the PC, and there don't appear to be any other processes running that would cause a delay in the

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I should have, for those who do not know binary numbers, shown how to see this. Binary numbers are similar to base-10 numbers, in that each digit to the left is 2-times as large as the digit to the right. In base-10, each digit to the left is ten-times as large, for example 10 vs. 100. In

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Mark is correct. 4 GB is a physical limitation of 32-bit kernels, which is the best reason to go 64-bit: no real limitation to the amount of RAM you can use, other than what the motherboard will support. However, I can recall when 32-bit came around in the 90's, Wow! 4 GB of RAM! We'll never

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread mike
Vista's problem wasn't 64 or 32bit related it was that drivers were not written for vista until it had been out nearly a year. You can blame this on MS only in that they may have not given the code to software writers soon enough. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:06 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
My understanding of the Mess Vista got introduced to was yes it was MS not releasing code and not allowing coders access to needed knowledge. I remember a few of the antivirus folks complaining quite publicly about this. Seems that they did a lot more work with 7. Stewart At 07:57 AM

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
My understanding of the Mess Vista got introduced to was yes it was MS not releasing code and not allowing coders access to needed knowledge. I remember a few of the antivirus folks complaining quite publicly about this. Seems that they did a lot more work with 7. The anti-virus folks,

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Vista's problem wasn't 64 or 32bit related it was that drivers were not written for vista until it had been out nearly a year. You can blame this on MS only in that they may have not given the code to software writers soon enough. I don't even blame MS for that. The Vista beta's were out

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Tony B
Thanks for the quick lesson. But it has nothing to do with what I said. You probably missed the link Vicky gave which explains it better than I can. Tom never actually told us if previous versions of 32 bit Mac OS have been able to use more than 4gb ram, instead going off on a rant. That 32-bit

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Tony, you are confusing schemes to virtually address modestly more than the 32-bit limit by stretching it to a number some 4-16 times the actual limit for a 32-bit binary number. Apple never played those virtual address games with 32-bit operating systems (starting with MAC OS 7 or 7.1 in about

Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Tony Bton...@gmail.com wrote: Don't bother; it's just an ad for software. Oddly, it's software that allows someone to run their PC on a Mac, which simply means a lot of those figures Tom's quoting are probably inaccurate. I mean, if someone buys a Mac and runs

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-27 Thread b_s-wilk
...(Yes, I have gone to the tools menu and made all the changes, but they have been ignored - it is as if the ability to change the various options have all been locked out.) I am afraid that my only choice may be to uninstall Firefox and start all over from scratch, but I don't want to loose my

[CGUYS] Sudden MAC OS X V4 Inefficiency

2009-08-27 Thread Arnold Kee
Thanks to all for your suggestions. So far I've tried: - Clearing the Safari Cache - Clicking the renew the DHCP lease - Adding DNS sites; and - Reviewing the configuration of my modem. Nothing so far has worked. A curious tendency is for the web to get back to normal within the first five

Re: [CGUYS] Sudden MAC OS X V4 Inefficiency

2009-08-27 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
How about turning off and on your wireless radio (on the computer) when you see the signal strength fading? - Original Message - From: Arnold Kee a...@expandingthecircle.org To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Sudden MAC OS X

[CGUYS] mobo won't post

2009-08-27 Thread Tony B
Before I send this new Intel mobo in for a replacement, could there be something I'm overlooking? It's got on board video, so I hooked up a monitor. mouse and keyboard 3 power supply connections (long one, and the 4 pin on the other side) memory cpu hard drive But I get no POST. The +5 LED

[CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread Jordan
Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email entitled Postcard. As a Mac user I guess getting emails like this are the greatest threat. Here's what it says: *checked with Norton Anti-Virus,

[CGUYS] Digital TV for PC 2

2009-08-27 Thread Tom Chambers
List members : Does anyone have experience and an opinion about software called Digital TV for PC2 , which is supposed to turn almost any PC into a TV with thousands of channels ? Thanks ,

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread Tony B
If you really looked this up at Snopes, you sure didn't read very well. If you trusted _someone else_ to look it up at Snopes and read it, shame on you. http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/postcard.asp Although the Postcard virus is real, it isn't a BIG VIRUS COMING (it's already been around in

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread mike
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_postcard_virus.htm On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email entitled Postcard.

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
It's an old hoax. Consider getting a new friend. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Jordanjor17...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email entitled Postcard. As a Mac

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread Jordan
Tony B wrote: If you really looked this up at Snopes, you sure didn't read very well. If you trusted _someone else_ to look it up at Snopes and read it, shame on you. http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/postcard.asp I didn't say I looked it up at Snopes or anywhere else. I would have no

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread mike
Kind of ironic..the mac guys are more worried then pc guys. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Tony B wrote: If you really looked this up at Snopes, you sure didn't read very well. If you trusted _someone else_ to look it up at Snopes and read it, shame on

Re: [CGUYS] Digital TV for PC 2

2009-08-27 Thread Tony B
I've tried international TV. Yes, there are probably that many channels out there. Tuning them in when you want to watch them is problematical. I believe there is freeware software available to assist in this. Sporadic claims of being able to watch a distant football game occasionally. But for

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread Richard P.
Always looking up these things on Snopes before believing or forwarding (or in many cases, reading), is a great idea. Over the years, I think I've only seen one warning that was actually legitimate. Snopes has helped keep me safe, as well as keeping me from embarrassing myself with my friends.

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 27, 2009, at 7:04 PM, mike wrote: Kind of ironic..the mac guys are more worried then pc guys. WFBs can't detect that they are being mocked. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

[CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-27 Thread t.piwowar
http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/08/microsoft-002225.php Those miracle workers in Redmond have had a busy day. What will they think of next? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread Jordan
t.piwowar wrote: WFBs can't detect that they are being mocked. Shh! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/

[CGUYS] One Upmanship

2009-08-27 Thread t.piwowar
Windows 7 Ultimate can support up to 192 GB of RAM. Less expensive versions of Windows can go fish. Snow Leopard can support a staggering 16 Tbytes. WFB sez: Who needs RAM? I have 640K in my system and its fine. * **

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:01 PM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: Those miracle workers in Redmond have had a busy day. What will they think of next? Anything for a buck. Totally unacceptable. Vicious and reprehensible advertising. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] Sudden MAC OS X V4 Inefficiency

2009-08-27 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Arnold Kee wrote: A curious tendency is for the web to get back to normal within the first five minutes of use.and then steadily degrade... I can see the signal strength fade once we get to about ten minutes of use and longer. This story suggests that a

[CGUYS] Snow Leopard Review

2009-08-27 Thread David K Watson
The NY Times has David Pogue's review of Snow Leopard. It looks like it is a review of the actual release and not the developer preview like I've seen elsewhere. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/technology/personaltech/27pogue.html?ref=global-homepagewanted=all There is a video of Snow

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-27 Thread Tony B
What the heck are you talking about? Since when is targeted advertising (which is basically, all good advertising) vicious and reprehensible? You do know that ads like this are just make believe? This is not a real life scene that's been altered because of racism. Only an advertising idiot would

Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread Fred Holmes
I've received many of them for some time now, several months, I think. They never specify a sender, so I am suspicious and don't open them. If I turn my virus checker on (which slows my machine down), it always reports them as viruses and quarantines them. I just erase them. Fred Holmes At

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-27 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Tony B wrote: What the heck are you talking about? Since when is targeted advertising (which is basically, all good advertising) vicious and reprehensible? Its not like they put white hoods on all the people sitting at the table.

[CGUYS] Will SL Finally FTFF?

2009-08-27 Thread t.piwowar
Reviewing Apple's tech notes I'm seeing many small changes and improvements that I think will make Mac users far happier than flashy new features. This may be the upgrade that finally fixes the Finder. The Finder has been completely rewritten using the modern Cocoa framework in Mac OS X,

Re: [CGUYS] One Upmanship

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Windows 7 Ultimate can support up to 192 GB of RAM. Less expensive versions of Windows can go fish. Snow Leopard can support a staggering 16 Tbytes. 1 TB of 2 GB 1066MHz DDR3 ECC memory modules from Apple will cost you $50,000. 16 TB will cost $800,000. The good news is that shipping is

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I know every one loves a good conspiracy theory, but if you read the article closely, the advertising was changed in Europe and they did the whitening over in Europe. It was not done in Redmond but in Europe. Racism is alive and well all over the world. Stewart At 10:05 PM 8/27/2009, you

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Then how do you explain the Windows/Mac crap? Stewart At 11:18 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I know every one loves a good conspiracy theory, but if you read the article closely, the advertising was changed

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I know every one loves a good conspiracy theory, but if you read the article closely, the advertising was changed in Europe and they did the whitening over in Europe.  It was not done in Redmond but in

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-27 Thread mike
Well the bringing together only applies when you completely agree with the MFB's. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Then how do you explain the Windows/Mac crap? Stewart At 11:18 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:18