Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-12 Thread Jeff Miles
And this is comparable to visually spying on children in their bedrooms how? I think you're trying to compare apples with oranges here. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:28 AM,

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Sure, but this ignore the discussion in the Ars article of the penalty: RMW (read, modify, write). Quoting from the Ars article: And so it was that last September (and it's this that makes it a little surprising that the BBC and other outlets are talking about the issue now, but it's one that

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread Chris Dunford
This kind of deceit is a problem if software tries to write less than 4096 bytes at a time. Yes, but NTFS uses 4K clusters. To the best of my knowledge, it never writes 512-byte sectors. (And even if it did, the vast majority of writes in typical use would tend to be large--only the last,

Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-12 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com wrote: If the lawyers involved haven't already gotten all of the pictures involved, I'ld be heartily shocked.  Discovery is a tricky thing, but somehow something as major as the webcam photo wouldn't be missed in a suit, no

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Chris, you misunderstand RMW. Your jumper setting does not get around it. Bliss-based ignorance. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Chris Dunford Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:26 AM To:

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Read what I wrote. 1.5 are at that price level. I never said 2 TB are not here. But right now they are at a premium price. I saw a 1.5 TB drive advertised for $99.00 so I expect 2 TB drives to be at that price by next year. There is a price mark that determines how much those drives will

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread Chris Dunford
Chris, you misunderstand RMW. Your jumper setting does not get around it. Bliss-based ignorance. I understand RMW perfectly well, thank you. You are not paying attention, apparently. There are two issues. 1. There is a performance penalty for writes of 4K due to RMW. But, as the very

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Okay, you are talking pricing. Got it. My posts were a bit more general, so I was not thinking (or writing) about prices. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Read what I wrote. 1.5 are at that price level. I never said 2 TB are not here. But right now they are at a premium

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread tjpa
On Mar 11, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: You have a point but only because Apple has made the old hardware obsolete. Macs stay in service far longer than PCs. You know that. Why introduce a red herring? Please stay honest and don't go for debating points. This is a

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread tjpa
On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The 512-byte sectors are emulated. That's what the OS sees. Physically, they're 4K sectors. And you can't see that this is an awful kluge? Hardware vendors should not have to go Rube Goldberg to work around a mess created my the operating

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread tjpa
On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:35 AM, mike wrote: I thought macs stayed in service longer than PC's? They do, but Mac users keep their OSs up to date because Apple charges a reasonable upgrade fee and the upgrade is easy to install. Mac owners are never faced with formatting their drives just to

Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure

2010-03-12 Thread tjpa
On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:40 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Well, okay then. If you prefer the UNtinyurl, here it is. I was just trying to be helpful. I feel better getting the full URL. This is not a brilliant move by the FCC. It is just ordinary smartness. It only looks brilliant because

Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure

2010-03-12 Thread mike
Except much of that money shows up in zip codes or counties that don't exist. No, not all of it...but a lot. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:10 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:40 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Well, okay then. If you prefer the UNtinyurl, here it is. I was

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread Chris Dunford
And you can't see that this is an awful kluge? Hardware vendors should not have to go Rube Goldberg to work around a mess created my the operating system vendor. Did I see something moving out of the corner of my eye? Ah, yes, it's the goalposts again. Your post was about what a horrible fix

Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure

2010-03-12 Thread Chris Dunford
Except much of that money shows up in zip codes or counties that don't exist. No, not all of it...but a lot. Mike, can you quantify this? How much is much? You're sorta making it sound like most of the money shown on the site is bogus. I'm not clear on your thinking here--are you saying that

Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure

2010-03-12 Thread mike
I'm not blasting the Obama government on this, just government waste in general. Kinda like the 70k? plus in debit cards that disappeared during katrina. You can google zip codes don't exist recovery.gov and hit multiple sites about the problem. Some is probably simple paperwork etc...but if we

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread b_s-wilk
With all the protections I have these days (UAC, Spybot immunize, safe browsing warnings, etc), I don't feel the need for this, but if you must you can see where these shortened links go before you click on them. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8636 . Equivalents available in other

Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-12 Thread Art Clemons
On 03/12/2010 04:13 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: And this is comparable to visually spying on children in their bedrooms how? I think you're trying to compare apples with oranges here. You are assuming something here, something which none of the parties in the legal dispute seem to be

Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure

2010-03-12 Thread tjpa
On Mar 12, 2010, at 12:09 PM, mike wrote: I'm not blasting the Obama government on this, just government waste in general. Kinda like the 70k? plus in debit cards that disappeared during katrina. ...but if we are honest there are pallets of money literally (remember iraq) that disappear.

Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-12 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com: On 03/12/2010 04:13 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: And this is comparable to visually spying on children in their bedrooms how? I think you're trying to compare apples with oranges here. You are assuming something here, something which none of the

Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure

2010-03-12 Thread mike
The difference is I think they are all wingnuts, you only think half are. On Mar 12, 2010 11:29 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2010, at 12:09 PM, mike wrote: I'm not blasting the Obama government on this, just government waste in general. Kinda like t... katrina. ...but if we

Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure

2010-03-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Wingnuts of any kind are still wingnuts. Let them just fly away. Stewart At 12:22 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: On Mar 12, 2010, at 12:09 PM, mike wrote: I'm not blasting the Obama government on this, just government waste in general. Kinda like the 70k? plus in debit cards that disappeared

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread John Emmerling
Today, I think anybody can be excused for being paranoid. _Esp._ with respect to wide-open domains like .tv. What real purpose does tinyurl really serve nowadays? Don't up-to-date mail readers handle URLs of any arbitrary length with no problem? On 3/12/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread mike
Twitter and rick-rolls! On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:06 PM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote: Today, I think anybody can be excused for being paranoid. _Esp._ with respect to wide-open domains like .tv. What real purpose does tinyurl really serve nowadays? Don't up-to-date mail

[CGUYS] CPCUG EC SIG: Windows 7 w/ Mark Mabee, Mar. 20, 2010

2010-03-12 Thread Barbara Conn
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[CGUYS] Finding icons

2010-03-12 Thread Stewart Marshall
I am looking for some icons to use on a web page to designate pdf formatted documents and word formatted (RTF) documents. Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 3:06 PM -0500 3/12/10, John Emmerling wrote: Today, I think anybody can be excused for being paranoid. _Esp._ with respect to wide-open domains like .tv. What real purpose does tinyurl really serve nowadays? Don't up-to-date mail readers handle URLs of any arbitrary length with no

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread mike
Actually I think it came about to ease the problem of urls breaking in emails. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Roger D. Parish rogerd.par...@gmail.comwrote: At 3:06 PM -0500 3/12/10, John Emmerling wrote: Today, I think anybody can be excused for being paranoid. _Esp._ with respect to

Re: [CGUYS] Finding icons

2010-03-12 Thread mike
www.wincustomize.com try there On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I am looking for some icons to use on a web page to designate pdf formatted documents and word formatted (RTF) documents. Stewart

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread Stewart Marshall
Yup it is a little older than Twitter. It came about when url's tended to be a little wordy. Stewart At 04:11 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: Actually I think it came about to ease the problem of urls breaking in emails. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Roger D. Parish

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread Robert Carroll
John Emmerling wrote: What real purpose does tinyurl really serve nowadays? Don't up-to-date mail readers handle URLs of any arbitrary length with no problem? I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird for email. Very long web addresses are broken when they wrap around to the next line.

Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread tjpa
On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: Well, now that this turns out to be wrong, suddenly the real issue isn't that XP users are screwed, it's that it's a kluge. The real issue has been in the subject line all along. It is still true.

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread Art Clemons
On 03/12/2010 03:06 PM, John Emmerling wrote: What real purpose does tinyurl really serve nowadays? Don't up-to-date mail readers handle URLs of any arbitrary length with no problem? No, they don't, in fact many wrap at 72 characters. Actually tinyurls and similar services can be safer with

[CGUYS] Are Macs Really Cheaper To Manage Than PCs? - CIO.com

2010-03-12 Thread b_s-wilk
Does I'm a Mac mean I'm less expensive to manage? An Enterprise Desktop Alliance survey says Macs cost a lot less than PCs to manage -- yet Macs come with special challenges for enterprise IT admins. By Tom Kaneshige March 08, 2010 — CIO — Macs in the enterprise aren't just cheaper to

Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-12 Thread b_s-wilk
Please define burned. What happened? Did your hard drive melt? How is this burned experience different from the supposedly innocent URL you sent this week, http://tinyurl.com/X ? No, they don't, in fact many wrap at 72 characters. Actually tinyurls and similar services can be safer