Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Nicole Massey via Cookinginthedark]

Yes, that's correct. Some people have no reaction to it. It makes me want to 
drink the entire local lake system.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


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From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf 
Of Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:07 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

 Remember the product called Accent? I heard that it was just MSG, a 
great migraine trigger.

Karen

At 03:46 PM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of 
>angastoria.  You used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at 
>least that was the theory.  In fact, now that you mention it, I always 
>used a tiny bit in my pecan pies.  Looking back after all these years I 
>can’t say if the stuff really did anything.   Sent from my 
>iPhone > On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>
>wrote: > > Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot 
>of cook books. Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the 
>center I kept a lot of them in my office. There was also a really nice 
>one from the the Minnesota school for the Blind. I remember one that I 
>read that used Angosura in every recipe.
>I always wondered what that was because there was never an explanation, 
>but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile) > >> On 7/11/2020 3:21 
>PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote: >> Hi Linda and list.  I do 
>remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t know her last name 
>either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego Transcribers 
>Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something like 
>Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show 
>though.  Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn >> >> Sent from my 
>iPhone >>  On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via 
>Cookinginthedark  wrote: >>> >>> Hi 
>everyone: >>> >>> >>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a 
>Mexican cookbook who was blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't 
>remember the last name. She also had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio 
>show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her? >>> >>> Also, I wonder 
>if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just the 
>learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed. >>> 
 >>> Everyone stay well and safe! >>> >>> >>> Linda and Lara >>> 
> On
>7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via
>Cookinginthedark wrote:  Hi
>Pauline,\   You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable 
>about sending braille books out.  I’ve gotten a couple of them 
>from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California over the summer. But 
>they are for you to just keep, not something coming back to them if you 
>are borrowing books as you would at the Library.  They do sell 
>copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated to 
>them from someone.  I like the cookbooks that they have from 
>churches, those recipes are so good.   They give you a month 
>but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish with it right 
>away.  I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not 
>frazzled about getting them back to them on time.  I did get your 
>message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.  
>Lora    Sent from Mail for Windows 10   From:
>Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark  Sent: 
>Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM  To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org  Cc: Pauline Smith  Subject: Re: 
>[CnD] old braille cookbooks   Good Afternoon,   I have 
>not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you  post 
>contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting  
>materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard 
> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily 
> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of 
>the  places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.  
> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it 
>but  don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I 
>hadn't  had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I 
>don't have to  worry about that right now.   Pauline  
> > On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark > 
> wrote: > I can read the UEB, but 
>don’t really have to like it, haha. > Hey, have any of you guys 
>gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the > Braille Library and 
>Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana? > I just started 
>getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I > had 
>about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months. > I 
>also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine. > > > > Sent from 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Nicole Massey via Cookinginthedark]

I'm glad there's a way to translate all those little bumps into audio or text 
on a computer. As someone who got all blind and stuff in adulthood I had only a 
20% chance of learning it anyway, but adding in the occupational neuropathy 
from playing hand drums like congas and cajons I was somewhere below 0% chance.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


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From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf 
Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:01 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I'm for that. Who do they think they are anyway.

On 7/11/2020 7:40 PM, Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Ugly English Braille! Someone should tell BANA.
>
> Carol Ashland
> carol97...@gmail.com
> Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Jul 11, 2020 3:52 PM, WitKnit via 
> Cookinginthedark  wrote:
>> I have some cookbooks in my office but not many.  The thermoform books were 
>> great for us because if one managed to get something on one of the pages 
>> they could just be wiped off with a damp cloth.  As for UEB, I have a friend 
>> who calls it “ugly English Braille.”  Makes me grin every time it comes up.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they 
>>> held up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started to 
>>> break. Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, 
>>> otherwise I would have.
>>>
>>> Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in 
>>> my thoughts
>>>
>>> Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those memories 
>>> of good times together.
>>>
 On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
 suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
 On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you 
 imagine having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather 
 than electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make 
 room for all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes 
 over the years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

 Pamela Fairchild
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
 To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
 Cc: Linda S. 
 Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

 Hi everyone:


 in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
 blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
 had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
 know about her?

 Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
 just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


 Everyone stay well and safe!


 Linda and Lara

> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Hi Pauline,\
>
> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
> books out.
> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
> California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
> something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at 
> the Library.
> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
> donated to them from someone.
> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
> good.
>
> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
> finish with it right away.
> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
> getting them back to them on time.
> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
> soon.
> Lora
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Pauline Smith
> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could 
> you post contact information for them, please?  You may not be 
> getting materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I 
> have heard from several correspondents that their libraries have 
> temporarily stopped sending out braille materials due to the 
> pandemic. One of the places that sends out monthly devotionals has done 
> this.
>
> On 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

I'm for that. Who do they think they are anyway.

On 7/11/2020 7:40 PM, Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Ugly English Braille! Someone should tell BANA.

Carol Ashland
carol97...@gmail.com
Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Jul 11, 2020 3:52 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

I have some cookbooks in my office but not many.  The thermoform books were 
great for us because if one managed to get something on one of the pages they 
could just be wiped off with a damp cloth.  As for UEB, I have a friend who 
calls it “ugly English Braille.”  Makes me grin every time it comes up.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they held up 
pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started to break. 
Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, otherwise I would 
have.

Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in my thoughts

Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those memories of 
good times together.


On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:
I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you imagine 
having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

Pamela Fairchild


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara


On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Pauline Smith
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline


On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I
think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have
weeks and weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier
to just retype them.



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On
Behalf Of
lorischarff--- via 

Re: [CnD] Kitchen bloopers: Re: More books written for the blind

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Yes, there are a lot of chemicals in plastic. I was alone and it really 
scared me, but I just turned off the stove and waited, and nothing 
happened, I didn't burn up or anything. (lol) I'm still here amazingly 
after the life I've lived1


On 7/11/2020 7:35 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Oh, wow, that must have smelled awful.  Glad we have microwaves for melting 
butter and chocolate and stuff.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:24 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] Kitchen bloopers: Re: More books written for the blind

That's all you can do is laugh after it's all said and done.

Oh yes, the chocolate. One day I decided to make a chocolate cake from
the Cooking without Looking book. I was doing really well until the
recipe called for melted butter. I took a plastic dish put the butter in
it, and put it on the stove to melt. Needless to say, I had melted
butter and dish all over the place. This was just after I left home and
moved in to my own appartment. I had just graduated from Ocb, and that's
one thing they didn't teach, is that you can't melt plastic dishes on
your stove. (lol)

On 7/11/2020 7:08 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Oops!  I’ll just bet that gave your dad quite a scare.  But, I like the time 
when you were a bran new cook and wanted to melt some chocolate.  But, I’m no 
better.  Way back in the day one of my nieces and I decided to make popcorn.  
This was the kind of popper you just put on the burner and lifted it up to 
shake it.  Diane was about 8 and I was probably about 19.  I was holding the 
thing on the burner while shaking it a bit.  Well, my hand started feeling 
uncomfortably warm and without thinking I jerked it away.  That would have been 
ok had that not been the hand holding the popper’s lid.  Needless to say, we 
had popcorn all over the place before I could get the lid back in place.  It 
was so dumb I just had to laugh at myself.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I 
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on fire when 
I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at work, so she 
asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he came home. He got 
home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house because we had made 
hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it hadn't been cleaned or 
something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't have to call the fire dept. (lol)


On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this post.  Wow, did it 
bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior at Texas School For The Blind.  At the 
beginning of the year, two other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some 
reason fill our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take shop or 
home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.  We had all taken 
various kinds of shop for years so we decided together that it might be fun to take 
cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in 
fact, she had written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who was 
totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would have it, it ended up 
being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.  It was interesting because I 
don't think she had ever taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no 
girls in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we 
probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and worked in some 
learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of 
the cooking class, each class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare 
it.  When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and 
what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  The day before 
our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd need.  The next day when we came 
to class, somebody came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us 
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys 
prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have laughed the whole 
period. I remember the next class when she came back, the only thing she said was, 
"You know guys, you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk 
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful and has 
pretty much stood the test of time.




On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark]

Remember the product called Accent? I 
heard that it was just MSG, a great migraine trigger.


Karen

At 03:46 PM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
I remember that little booklet, and I actually 
owned a bottle of angastoria.  You used it in 
recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least 
that was the theory.  In fact, now that you 
mention it, I always used a tiny bit in my pecan 
pies.  Looking back after all these years I 
can’t say if the stuff really did 
anything.   Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 
11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via 
Cookinginthedark  
wrote: > > Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild 
in San Diego did a lot of cook books. Wonder 
what ever happened to them all? When I left the 
center I kept a lot of them in my office. There 
was also a really nice one from the the 
Minnesota school for the Blind. I remember one 
that I read that used Angosura in every recipe. 
I always wondered what that was because there 
was never an explanation, but I think it's some 
kind of lizuor. (smile) > >> On 7/11/2020 3:21 
PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote: >> Hi 
Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you 
mentioned, but I don’t know her last name 
either.  The book had been transcribed by the 
San Diego Transcribers Guild and I had a copy 
for many years.  Wasn’t it something like 
Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t 
know about her radio show though.  Darn, I might 
have enjoyed that.  Evelyn >> >> Sent from my 
iPhone >>  On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, 
Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote: >>> >>> 
Hi everyone: >>> >>> >>> in the seventies 
there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook 
who was blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't 
remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los 
Angeles. Does anyone know about her? >>> >>> 
Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say 
they like Ueb? Maybe it's just the learning 
curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't 
changed. >>> >>> >>> Everyone stay well and 
safe! >>> >>> >>> Linda and Lara >>>  On 
7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via 
Cookinginthedark wrote:  Hi 
Pauline,\   You may be right about 
places feeling uncomfortable about sending 
braille books out.  I’ve gotten a couple 
of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
California over the summer. But they are for you 
to just keep, not something coming back to them 
if you are borrowing books as you would at the 
Library.  They do sell copies of some of the 
stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated to 
them from someone.  I like the cookbooks 
that they have from churches, those recipes are 
so good.   They give you a month but you 
can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.  I record them on my 
Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
getting them back to them on time.  I did 
get your message in the other place and will get 
back to you very soon.  Lora    
Sent from Mail for Windows 10   From: 
Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark  Sent: 
Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM  To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org  Cc: Pauline 
Smith  Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille 
cookbooks   Good Afternoon,   I 
have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora 
mentioned. Could you  post contact 
information for them, please?  You may not be 
getting  materials from them due to what's 
going on right now.  I have heard  from 
several correspondents that their libraries have 
temporarily  stopped sending out braille 
materials due to the pandemic. One of the  
places that sends out monthly devotionals has 
done this.   On another subject, I am 
with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but  
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to 
learn it if I hadn't  had the possibility of 
needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have 
to  worry about that right now.   
Pauline   > On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett 
via Cookinginthedark > 
 wrote: > I 
can read the UEB, but don’t really have to 
like it, haha. > Hey, have any of you guys 
gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from 
the > Braille Library and Transcribing 
Service in Indianapolis, Indiana? > I just 
started getting them somewherearound a year and 
a half ago. I think I > had about 8 books, 
but have not received one for a couple 
months. > I also get Seeing It Our Way 
Magazine. > > > > Sent from Mail 
for Windows 10 > > From: meward1954--- 
via Cookinginthedark > Sent: Saturday, July 
11, 2020 1:19 PM > To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Cc: 
meward1...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [CnD] 
old braille cookbooks > > Yes, they 
would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody 
would have weeks and > weeks of 
back-translator fun.  It would probably be 
easier to just retype > 
them. > > > > -Original 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark]

Ugly English Braille! Someone should tell BANA. 

Carol Ashland
carol97...@gmail.com
Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Jul 11, 2020 3:52 PM, WitKnit via 
Cookinginthedark  wrote:
>
> I have some cookbooks in my office but not many.  The thermoform books were 
> great for us because if one managed to get something on one of the pages they 
> could just be wiped off with a damp cloth.  As for UEB, I have a friend who 
> calls it “ugly English Braille.”  Makes me grin every time it comes up.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they 
> > held up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started to 
> > break. Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, 
> > otherwise I would have.
> > 
> > Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in my 
> > thoughts
> > 
> > Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those memories 
> > of good times together.
> > 
> >> On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> >> I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
> >> suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
> >> On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you 
> >> imagine having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather 
> >> than electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make 
> >> room for all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes 
> >> over the years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.
> >> 
> >> Pamela Fairchild
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
> >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> >> Cc: Linda S. 
> >> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
> >> 
> >> Hi everyone:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
> >> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
> >> had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
> >> know about her?
> >> 
> >> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
> >> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Everyone stay well and safe!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Linda and Lara
> >> 
> >>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> >>> Hi Pauline,\
> >>> 
> >>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
> >>> books out.
> >>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
> >>> California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
> >>> something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at 
> >>> the Library.
> >>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
> >>> donated to them from someone.
> >>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
> >>> good.
> >>> 
> >>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
> >>> finish with it right away.
> >>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
> >>> getting them back to them on time.
> >>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
> >>> soon.
> >>> Lora
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>> 
> >>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
> >>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> >>> Cc: Pauline Smith
> >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
> >>> 
> >>> Good Afternoon,
> >>> 
> >>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
> >>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
> >>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
> >>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
> >>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
> >>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
> >>> 
> >>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
> >>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
> >>> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
> >>> worry about that right now.
> >>> 
> >>> Pauline
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
> >>>  wrote:
>  I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
>  Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
>  Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
>  I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I
>  think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
>  I also get Seeing It 

Re: [CnD] Kitchen bloopers: Re: More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, wow, that must have smelled awful.  Glad we have microwaves for melting 
butter and chocolate and stuff.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:24 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] Kitchen bloopers: Re: More books written for the blind

That's all you can do is laugh after it's all said and done.

Oh yes, the chocolate. One day I decided to make a chocolate cake from 
the Cooking without Looking book. I was doing really well until the 
recipe called for melted butter. I took a plastic dish put the butter in 
it, and put it on the stove to melt. Needless to say, I had melted 
butter and dish all over the place. This was just after I left home and 
moved in to my own appartment. I had just graduated from Ocb, and that's 
one thing they didn't teach, is that you can't melt plastic dishes on 
your stove. (lol)

On 7/11/2020 7:08 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Oops!  I’ll just bet that gave your dad quite a scare.  But, I like the time 
> when you were a bran new cook and wanted to melt some chocolate.  But, I’m no 
> better.  Way back in the day one of my nieces and I decided to make popcorn.  
> This was the kind of popper you just put on the burner and lifted it up to 
> shake it.  Diane was about 8 and I was probably about 19.  I was holding the 
> thing on the burner while shaking it a bit.  Well, my hand started feeling 
> uncomfortably warm and without thinking I jerked it away.  That would have 
> been ok had that not been the hand holding the popper’s lid.  Needless to 
> say, we had popcorn all over the place before I could get the lid back in 
> place.  It was so dumb I just had to laugh at myself.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 11, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I 
>> remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on fire 
>> when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at work, so 
>> she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he came home. 
>> He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house because we had 
>> made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it hadn't been cleaned 
>> or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't have to call the fire dept. 
>> (lol)
>>
>>> On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Greetings All,
>>>
>>>
>>> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this post. 
>>>  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior at Texas 
>>> School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two other senior guys 
>>> and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill our graduation 
>>> requirements.  It turned out that we could either take shop or home ec 
>>> which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.  We had all 
>>> taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided together that it might 
>>> be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. Tipps had been the home ec 
>>> teacher for many years and in fact, she had written Cooking Without Looking 
>>> which was  inspired by her husband who was totally blind and had passed 
>>> away sometime back.  As fate would have it, it ended up being just us three 
>>> guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't 
>>> think she had ever taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us 
>>> and no girls in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really 
>>> seriously, so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we 
>>> laughed a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps 
>>> was very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each 
>>> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When 
>>> she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and 
>>> what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  
>>> The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd need. 
>>>  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us that Mrs. 
>>> Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and prepare our 
>>> meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our 
>>> chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have laughed the whole period. I 
>>> remember the next class when she came back, the only thing she said was, 
>>> "You know guys, you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your 
>>> milk shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful 
>>> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
 Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other 

Re: [CnD] Kitchen bloopers: Re: More books written for the blind

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

That's all you can do is laugh after it's all said and done.

Oh yes, the chocolate. One day I decided to make a chocolate cake from 
the Cooking without Looking book. I was doing really well until the 
recipe called for melted butter. I took a plastic dish put the butter in 
it, and put it on the stove to melt. Needless to say, I had melted 
butter and dish all over the place. This was just after I left home and 
moved in to my own appartment. I had just graduated from Ocb, and that's 
one thing they didn't teach, is that you can't melt plastic dishes on 
your stove. (lol)


On 7/11/2020 7:08 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Oops!  I’ll just bet that gave your dad quite a scare.  But, I like the time 
when you were a bran new cook and wanted to melt some chocolate.  But, I’m no 
better.  Way back in the day one of my nieces and I decided to make popcorn.  
This was the kind of popper you just put on the burner and lifted it up to 
shake it.  Diane was about 8 and I was probably about 19.  I was holding the 
thing on the burner while shaking it a bit.  Well, my hand started feeling 
uncomfortably warm and without thinking I jerked it away.  That would have been 
ok had that not been the hand holding the popper’s lid.  Needless to say, we 
had popcorn all over the place before I could get the lid back in place.  It 
was so dumb I just had to laugh at myself.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I 
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on fire when 
I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at work, so she 
asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he came home. He got 
home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house because we had made 
hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it hadn't been cleaned or 
something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't have to call the fire dept. (lol)


On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this post.  Wow, did it 
bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior at Texas School For The Blind.  At the 
beginning of the year, two other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some 
reason fill our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take shop or 
home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.  We had all taken 
various kinds of shop for years so we decided together that it might be fun to take 
cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in 
fact, she had written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who was 
totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would have it, it ended up 
being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.  It was interesting because I 
don't think she had ever taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no 
girls in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we 
probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and worked in some 
learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of 
the cooking class, each class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare 
it.  When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and 
what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  The day before 
our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd need.  The next day when we came 
to class, somebody came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us 
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys 
prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have laughed the whole 
period. I remember the next class when she came back, the only thing she said was, 
"You know guys, you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk 
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful and has 
pretty much stood the test of time.




On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
 Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Go figure.  Sighted people know it all of course, LOL!


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:08 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, and just for the record, she was fully sighted.

On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
> I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind 
> of fun.
> Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was 
> a little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Linda S.
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
> remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
> fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
> work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
> came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
> because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
> hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
> have to call the fire dept. (lol)
>
> On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>>
>>
>> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
>> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
>> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
>> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
>> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
>> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
>> break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
>> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
>> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
>> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
>> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
>> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
>> cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
>> taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
>> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
>> so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
>> a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
>> very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
>> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
>> When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
>> looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
>> milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
>> everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
>> came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
>> was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
>> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
>> I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
>> class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
>> you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
>> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
>> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
>>> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
>>> starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
>>> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
>>> Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
>>> Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
>>> Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
>>> them on to a sd card for my stream.
>>> Happy cooking. :)
>>>      Jeanne
>>>
>>> On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
 I know; I used to have a braille copy.
 Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
 Has long gone into the recycling bin.

 Marie



 -Original Message-
 From: Cookinginthedark
 [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
 Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
 To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
 Cc: Rebecca Manners
 Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

 I don't 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Good thing no one was hurt except a lot of pride.  I bet it was a long time 
before your parents let you make stuff.  I did not really get started until I 
was in college and was dating George.
He would come to college to see me a lot and I lived on a floor in the ddorm 
where we had a kitchenette.
We could save money by not being on the food contract. I loved it and at least 
George didn’t have a problem with me making stuff and we did meals together.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:07 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Ohm, now that I remember it was the grease that caught on fire. I 
remember my dad was pretty shocked and just went in to crisis mode, and 
I was scared. Can't reven remember if we ate those hamburgers or not. 
And the teacher as I remember was pretty embarrassed and left pretty fast.

On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
> I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind 
> of fun.
> Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was 
> a little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Linda S.
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
> remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
> fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
> work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
> came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
> because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
> hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
> have to call the fire dept. (lol)
>
> On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>>
>>
>> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
>> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
>> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
>> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
>> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
>> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
>> break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
>> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
>> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
>> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
>> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
>> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
>> cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
>> taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
>> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
>> so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
>> a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
>> very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
>> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
>> When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
>> looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
>> milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
>> everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
>> came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
>> was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
>> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
>> I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
>> class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
>> you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
>> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
>> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
>>> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
>>> starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
>>> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
>>> Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
>>> Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
>>> Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
>>> them on to a sd card for my stream.

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

I’ll bet she was.  I know I would have been too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ohm, now that I remember it was the grease that caught on fire. I remember 
> my dad was pretty shocked and just went in to crisis mode, and I was scared. 
> Can't reven remember if we ate those hamburgers or not. And the teacher as I 
> remember was pretty embarrassed and left pretty fast.
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
>> I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind 
>> of fun.
>> Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it 
>> was a little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Linda S.
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>> 
>> Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
>> remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
>> fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
>> work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
>> came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
>> because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
>> hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
>> have to call the fire dept. (lol)
>> 
>>> On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Greetings All,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
>>> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
>>> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
>>> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
>>> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
>>> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
>>> break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
>>> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
>>> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
>>> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
>>> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
>>> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
>>> cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
>>> taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
>>> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
>>> so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
>>> a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
>>> very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
>>> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
>>> When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
>>> looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
>>> milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
>>> everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
>>> came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
>>> was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
>>> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
>>> I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
>>> class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
>>> you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
>>> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
>>> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
 Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
 starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
 When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
 Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
 Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
 Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
 them on to a sd card for my stream.
 Happy cooking. :)
 Jeanne
 
 On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
  wrote:
> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
> Has long gone into the recycling bin.
> 
> Marie
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark
> [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
> 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, and just for the record, she was fully sighted.

On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind of 
fun.
Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was a 
little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
have to call the fire dept. (lol)

On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
and has pretty much stood the test of time.



On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
     Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
Has long gone into the recycling bin.

Marie



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark
[mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Rebecca Manners
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
available
in braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on
behalf of
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hello, everyone.



For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.



Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps



There 

[CnD] Kitchen bloopers: Re: More books written for the blind

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

Oops!  I’ll just bet that gave your dad quite a scare.  But, I like the time 
when you were a bran new cook and wanted to melt some chocolate.  But, I’m no 
better.  Way back in the day one of my nieces and I decided to make popcorn.  
This was the kind of popper you just put on the burner and lifted it up to 
shake it.  Diane was about 8 and I was probably about 19.  I was holding the 
thing on the burner while shaking it a bit.  Well, my hand started feeling 
uncomfortably warm and without thinking I jerked it away.  That would have been 
ok had that not been the hand holding the popper’s lid.  Needless to say, we 
had popcorn all over the place before I could get the lid back in place.  It 
was so dumb I just had to laugh at myself.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I 
> remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on fire 
> when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at work, so 
> she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he came home. He 
> got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house because we had 
> made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it hadn't been cleaned or 
> something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't have to call the fire dept. 
> (lol)
> 
>> On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>> 
>> 
>> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this post.  
>> Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior at Texas 
>> School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two other senior guys 
>> and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill our graduation 
>> requirements.  It turned out that we could either take shop or home ec which 
>> meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.  We had all taken 
>> various kinds of shop for years so we decided together that it might be fun 
>> to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. Tipps had been the home ec teacher for 
>> many years and in fact, she had written Cooking Without Looking which was  
>> inspired by her husband who was totally blind and had passed away sometime 
>> back.  As fate would have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. 
>> Tipps in cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had 
>> ever taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls 
>> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we 
>> probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and 
>> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of 
>> us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide what 
>> they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us what we 
>> wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what she thought when 
>> we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  The day before our meal, 
>> she went shopping and bought everything we'd need.  The next day when we 
>> came to class, somebody came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but 
>> her message to us was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three 
>> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I 
>> think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when 
>> she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really 
>> didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk shakes".  All in all, she 
>> was a nice lady and her book is still useful and has pretty much stood the 
>> test of time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
>>> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
>>> starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
>>> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
>>> Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
>>> Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
>>> Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
>>> them on to a sd card for my stream.
>>> Happy cooking. :)
>>> Jeanne
>>> 
>>> On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
 I know; I used to have a braille copy.
 Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
 Has long gone into the recycling bin.
 
 Marie
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
 Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
 To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
 Cc: Rebecca Manners
 Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
 
 I don't 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Ohm, now that I remember it was the grease that caught on fire. I 
remember my dad was pretty shocked and just went in to crisis mode, and 
I was scared. Can't reven remember if we ate those hamburgers or not. 
And the teacher as I remember was pretty embarrassed and left pretty fast.


On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind of 
fun.
Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was a 
little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
have to call the fire dept. (lol)

On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
and has pretty much stood the test of time.



On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
     Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
Has long gone into the recycling bin.

Marie



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark
[mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Rebecca Manners
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
available
in braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on
behalf of
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More books written 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

Not much at all.  As I recall only a quarter of a Tsp. At the most.  I don’t 
think it was in place of the vanilla, but considering that this was back in the 
‘70s, don’t put too much faith in my memory.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, yes you should have. Did you replace the vanilla in the pie for 
> angustoria? How much did you put in there, more than the recipe called for? 
> (smile)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 4:23 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> What do you mean a little nip<. . Believe it or not, I never did.
>>   Maybe I should have.  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bet you took a little nip every once in a while knowing you! (lol)
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 3:41 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of 
 angastoria.  You used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least 
 that was the theory.  In fact, now that you mention it, I always used a 
 tiny bit in my pecan pies.  Looking back after all these years I can’t say 
 if the stuff really did anything.  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>>  wrote:
> Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
> Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a 
> lot of them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the 
> Minnesota school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used 
> Angosura in every recipe. I always wondered what that was because there 
> was never an explanation, but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I 
>> don’t know her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the 
>> San Diego Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it 
>> something like Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her 
>> radio show though.  Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> Hi everyone:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
>>> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
>>> had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
>>> know about her?
>>> 
>>> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe 
>>> it's just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't 
>>> changed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Everyone stay well and safe!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Linda and Lara
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi Pauline,\
 
 You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending 
 braille books out.
 I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
 California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
 something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would 
 at the Library.
 They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
 donated to them from someone.
 I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are 
 so good.
 
 They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
 finish with it right away.
 I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
 getting them back to them on time.
 I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you 
 very soon.
 Lora
 
 
 Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
 From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
 To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
 Cc: Pauline Smith
 Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
 
 Good Afternoon,
 
 I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
 post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
 materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
 from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
 stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
 places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
 
 On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
 don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
 had 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

Not much at all.  As I recall only a quarter of a Tsp. At the most.  I don’t 
think it was in place of the vanilla, but considering that this was back in the 
‘70s, don’t put too much faith in my memory.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, yes you should have. Did you replace the vanilla in the pie for 
> angustoria? How much did you put in there, more than the recipe called for? 
> (smile)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 4:23 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> What do you mean a little nip<. . Believe it or not, I never did.
>>   Maybe I should have.  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bet you took a little nip every once in a while knowing you! (lol)
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 3:41 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of 
 angastoria.  You used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least 
 that was the theory.  In fact, now that you mention it, I always used a 
 tiny bit in my pecan pies.  Looking back after all these years I can’t say 
 if the stuff really did anything.  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>>  wrote:
> Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
> Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a 
> lot of them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the 
> Minnesota school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used 
> Angosura in every recipe. I always wondered what that was because there 
> was never an explanation, but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I 
>> don’t know her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the 
>> San Diego Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it 
>> something like Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her 
>> radio show though.  Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> Hi everyone:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
>>> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
>>> had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
>>> know about her?
>>> 
>>> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe 
>>> it's just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't 
>>> changed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Everyone stay well and safe!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Linda and Lara
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi Pauline,\
 
 You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending 
 braille books out.
 I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
 California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
 something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would 
 at the Library.
 They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
 donated to them from someone.
 I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are 
 so good.
 
 They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
 finish with it right away.
 I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
 getting them back to them on time.
 I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you 
 very soon.
 Lora
 
 
 Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
 From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
 To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
 Cc: Pauline Smith
 Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
 
 Good Afternoon,
 
 I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
 post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
 materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
 from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
 stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
 places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
 
 On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
 don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
 had 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind of 
fun.
Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was a 
little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I 
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on 
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at 
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he 
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house 
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it 
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't 
have to call the fire dept. (lol)

On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
> break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in 
> cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever 
> taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls 
> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, 
> so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed 
> a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was 
> very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each 
> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  
> When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she 
> looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and 
> milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought 
> everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody 
> came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us 
> was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three 
> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  
> I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next 
> class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, 
> you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk 
> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful 
> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
>> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
>> starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
>> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
>> Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
>> Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
>> Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
>> them on to a sd card for my stream.
>> Happy cooking. :)
>>     Jeanne
>>
>> On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
>>  wrote:
>>> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
>>> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
>>> Has long gone into the recycling bin.
>>>
>>> Marie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Cookinginthedark 
>>> [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: Rebecca Manners
>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>>>
>>> I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
>>> available
>>> in braille.
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Cookinginthedark  on 
>>> behalf of
>>> Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
>>> Cc: Marie Rudys 
>>> Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>>>
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those who may be interested, I 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, going way back in to the sixties, there was a braille recipe book 
called everyday foods? I remember reading it in high school; omy I 
feeling old now!Have to stop remembering!


On 7/11/2020 7:33 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:21 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it
is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover
Braille volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books,
a three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one
called Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are
accessible bread machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a
machine would take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the
point, if I couldn't knead out all my frustrations?

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
  A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several
other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just
called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make
bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as
well, but the only one I had was the one on bread.

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know
are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an
ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven
by a real blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just
copy them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't
necessarily adapted the instructions.

I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind cooks.

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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: gail johnson 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

What a hoot.
Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I 
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on 
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at 
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he 
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house 
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it 
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't 
have to call the fire dept. (lol)


On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in 
cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever 
taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls 
in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, 
so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed 
a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was 
very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each 
class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  
When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she 
looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and 
milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought 
everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody 
came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us 
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three 
unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  
I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next 
class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, 
you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk 
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful 
and has pretty much stood the test of time.




On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
    Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
Has long gone into the recycling bin.

Marie



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark 
[mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On

Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Rebecca Manners
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
available
in braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on 
behalf of

Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hello, everyone.



For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.



Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps



There are two different recordings of this book.

The information is dated, but much of it is useful and there

Are many easy recipes.  One of the audio versions is actually

Read by a blind man from a braille copy for NLS.



When the Cook Can't Look by Ralph Reed

He is blind and explains how he does things well, how

To do things step by step without vision or supervision.

He has recipes in the book, and he

Rates them level 1, 2, and 3.  All the recipes

Are easy and that book is well written.  It is read by

Ray Hagen.  One recipe I like is 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

I'm not good with reading the mannuals; they are too technical for me. 
Right now I am using nvda which is very different from window-eyes which 
I used until my whole system crashed.


I'm also using mozilla so that to is a big learning curve. At my age 
they say it's good to learn new stuff, but fi I had something to learn 
from it would be a whole lot easier.


I'd love to be able to make a recipe folder, forwrd a message, etc. I 
know in time I will.


On 7/11/2020 5:15 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:

I'm always learning new things or ways to do things on the computer. 
Unfortunately, I forget things a lot more often than I used to as well, making 
it necessary to have a notebook of tips and key strokes that tell me what to do.

Pamela Fairchild


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 7:24 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi Pamela,
Yep, I’d have to move out too but I do read all the reccipes on my SD cards in 
my Vic.  I’m glad I have more than one, but I just use one when I am recording.
I try to do them in smaller groups so I don’t wear my head out, haha.
I’ll have to look so I can tell you what I have had so far.  There is one book 
I did not do, it’s the Pillsbury fast and Healthy book.  I found out I had 
downloaded it from Bookshare.
So, I just read the contents.  That way, I will have the contents to browse, so 
since as you probably know, I know I am preaching to the choir, but here is 
what I found out.
You can, of course, play a book from there in your Vicand he or she will read 
it to you.
However, when you open that big folder in your computer, you go down a couple 
folders where it says the name with XML at the end of it.  Open that folder, 
and there, big as life, it shows you the entire book!  Really, you can see 
every word!  That shocked me, but is also very cool, because then you can look 
up a recipe and find it.
I was amazed because no one had shown me before.
  So, no need for me to write out that Pillsbury book.
But I’ll go look up what I did speak on the Vic.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:38 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: pamelafairch...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you imagine 
having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

Pamela Fairchild


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara

On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Pauline Smith
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

I was talking about books from Bookshare, not that library, they are just 
braille books.
I was talking about seeing the entire contents of a book from Bookshare.
Did you also know that your Victor can read you the BRF files from Bard, you 
need no braille display to hear it at least.
Your Victor speech voice reads it, and you don’t even need to have the Victor 
authorized to hear the BRF books.  You do for the audio books though.
I can hear the braille ones or magazines on any of my Victors and I only have 
one of them authorized right now.
I never knew for a while that braille books, the BRF ones, are all open.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:26 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: pamelafairch...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I'm always learning new things or ways to do things on the computer. 
Unfortunately, I forget things a lot more often than I used to as well, making 
it necessary to have a notebook of tips and key strokes that tell me what to do.

Pamela Fairchild 


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 7:24 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi Pamela,
Yep, I’d have to move out too but I do read all the reccipes on my SD cards in 
my Vic.  I’m glad I have more than one, but I just use one when I am recording.
I try to do them in smaller groups so I don’t wear my head out, haha.
I’ll have to look so I can tell you what I have had so far.  There is one book 
I did not do, it’s the Pillsbury fast and Healthy book.  I found out I had 
downloaded it from Bookshare.
So, I just read the contents.  That way, I will have the contents to browse, so 
since as you probably know, I know I am preaching to the choir, but here is 
what I found out.
You can, of course, play a book from there in your Vicand he or she will read 
it to you.
However, when you open that big folder in your computer, you go down a couple 
folders where it says the name with XML at the end of it.  Open that folder, 
and there, big as life, it shows you the entire book!  Really, you can see 
every word!  That shocked me, but is also very cool, because then you can look 
up a recipe and find it.
I was amazed because no one had shown me before.
 So, no need for me to write out that Pillsbury book.
But I’ll go look up what I did speak on the Vic.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:38 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: pamelafairch...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to. 
On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you imagine 
having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

Pamela Fairchild


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara

On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Hi Pauline,\
>
> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
> books out.
> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
> to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
> to them from someone.
> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.
>
> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
> with it right away.
> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
> them back to them on time.
> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
> Lora
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Pauline Smith
> 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Sorry I made a mistake, it’s from our kitchens to yours.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:18 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

The cookbooks I have had so far are:  001 Dump Soups, Favorite Brand Name 
Recipes
002 I Want That Recipe
003 Light And Healthy Microwave Cooking
004 Home Cooking (Favorite Recipes)
005 Pampered Chef, All The Best From Our Kitcchens To Yours
006 Pillsbury Fast And Healthy Cookbook (contents)
007 Simply Better Easy Potlucks


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: WitKnit via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 7:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: WitKnit
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

What do you mean a little nip<. . Believe it or not, I never did.
  Maybe I should have.  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bet you took a little nip every once in a while knowing you! (lol)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:41 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of angastoria. 
>>  You used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least that was the 
>> theory.  In fact, now that you mention it, I always used a tiny bit in my 
>> pecan pies.  Looking back after all these years I can’t say if the stuff 
>> really did anything.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
>>> Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a lot 
>>> of them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the 
>>> Minnesota school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used 
>>> Angosura in every recipe. I always wondered what that was because there was 
>>> never an explanation, but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t 
 know her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
 Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something 
 like Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show 
 though.  Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>>  wrote:
> Hi everyone:
> 
> 
> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
> had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
> know about her?
> 
> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe 
> it's just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't 
> changed.
> 
> 
> Everyone stay well and safe!
> 
> 
> Linda and Lara
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Pauline,\
>> 
>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending 
>> braille books out.
>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
>> California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
>> something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at 
>> the Library.
>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>> donated to them from someone.
>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
>> good.
>> 
>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
>> finish with it right away.
>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
>> getting them back to them on time.
>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
>> soon.
>> Lora
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>> 
>> Good Afternoon,
>> 
>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>> 
>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
>> don't like it.  I wouldn't 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

The cookbooks I have had so far are:  001 Dump Soups, Favorite Brand Name 
Recipes
002 I Want That Recipe
003 Light And Healthy Microwave Cooking
004 Home Cooking (Favorite Recipes)
005 Pampered Chef, All The Best From Our Kitcchens To Yours
006 Pillsbury Fast And Healthy Cookbook (contents)
007 Simply Better Easy Potlucks


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: WitKnit via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 7:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: WitKnit
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

What do you mean a little nip<. . Believe it or not, I never did.
  Maybe I should have.  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bet you took a little nip every once in a while knowing you! (lol)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:41 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of angastoria. 
>>  You used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least that was the 
>> theory.  In fact, now that you mention it, I always used a tiny bit in my 
>> pecan pies.  Looking back after all these years I can’t say if the stuff 
>> really did anything.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
>>> Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a lot 
>>> of them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the 
>>> Minnesota school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used 
>>> Angosura in every recipe. I always wondered what that was because there was 
>>> never an explanation, but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t 
 know her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
 Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something 
 like Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show 
 though.  Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>>  wrote:
> Hi everyone:
> 
> 
> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
> had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
> know about her?
> 
> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe 
> it's just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't 
> changed.
> 
> 
> Everyone stay well and safe!
> 
> 
> Linda and Lara
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Pauline,\
>> 
>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending 
>> braille books out.
>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
>> California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
>> something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at 
>> the Library.
>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>> donated to them from someone.
>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
>> good.
>> 
>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
>> finish with it right away.
>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
>> getting them back to them on time.
>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
>> soon.
>> Lora
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>> 
>> Good Afternoon,
>> 
>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>> 
>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
>> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
>> worry about that right now.
>> 
>> Pauline
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>>>  

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark]

I'm always learning new things or ways to do things on the computer. 
Unfortunately, I forget things a lot more often than I used to as well, making 
it necessary to have a notebook of tips and key strokes that tell me what to do.

Pamela Fairchild 


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 7:24 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi Pamela,
Yep, I’d have to move out too but I do read all the reccipes on my SD cards in 
my Vic.  I’m glad I have more than one, but I just use one when I am recording.
I try to do them in smaller groups so I don’t wear my head out, haha.
I’ll have to look so I can tell you what I have had so far.  There is one book 
I did not do, it’s the Pillsbury fast and Healthy book.  I found out I had 
downloaded it from Bookshare.
So, I just read the contents.  That way, I will have the contents to browse, so 
since as you probably know, I know I am preaching to the choir, but here is 
what I found out.
You can, of course, play a book from there in your Vicand he or she will read 
it to you.
However, when you open that big folder in your computer, you go down a couple 
folders where it says the name with XML at the end of it.  Open that folder, 
and there, big as life, it shows you the entire book!  Really, you can see 
every word!  That shocked me, but is also very cool, because then you can look 
up a recipe and find it.
I was amazed because no one had shown me before.
 So, no need for me to write out that Pillsbury book.
But I’ll go look up what I did speak on the Vic.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:38 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: pamelafairch...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to. 
On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you imagine 
having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

Pamela Fairchild


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara

On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Hi Pauline,\
>
> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
> books out.
> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
> to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
> to them from someone.
> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.
>
> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
> with it right away.
> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
> them back to them on time.
> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
> Lora
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Pauline Smith
> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you 
> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting 
> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard 
> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily 
> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the 
> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>
> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but 
> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't 
> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to 
> worry about that right now.
>
> Pauline
>
>
> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
>> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, I like that! Ugly English Braille. I can never remember if it is UEB or 
EUB, and having that little phrase to help me I won't have trouble remembering 
the order anymore.

Pamela Fairchild 


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of WitKnit via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:53 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: WitKnit 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I have some cookbooks in my office but not many.  The thermoform books were 
great for us because if one managed to get something on one of the pages they 
could just be wiped off with a damp cloth.  As for UEB, I have a friend who 
calls it “ugly English Braille.”  Makes me grin every time it comes up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they held 
> up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started to break. 
> Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, otherwise I would 
> have.
> 
> Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in 
> my thoughts
> 
> Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those memories of 
> good times together.
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
>> suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
>> On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you 
>> imagine having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather 
>> than electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make 
>> room for all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes 
>> over the years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.
>> 
>> Pamela Fairchild
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Linda S. 
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>> 
>> Hi everyone:
>> 
>> 
>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
>> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had 
>> a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know 
>> about her?
>> 
>> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
>> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
>> 
>> 
>> Everyone stay well and safe!
>> 
>> 
>> Linda and Lara
>> 
>>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Hi Pauline,\
>>> 
>>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
>>> books out.
>>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
>>> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming 
>>> back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
>>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>>> donated to them from someone.
>>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
>>> good.
>>> 
>>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
>>> finish with it right away.
>>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
>>> getting them back to them on time.
>>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
>>> soon.
>>> Lora
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>> 
>>> Good Afternoon,
>>> 
>>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you 
>>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting 
>>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard 
>>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily 
>>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of 
>>> the places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>>> 
>>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but 
>>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I 
>>> hadn't had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I 
>>> don't have to worry about that right now.
>>> 
>>> Pauline
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
>>>  wrote:
 I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
 Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from 
 the Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
 I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. 
 I think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
 I 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Well, I think that you can do whatever your heart would like.

On 7/11/2020 4:28 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Thanks, Linda and Everyonee, I don’t want to forget anyone. There is so much 
strength in prayer.
I had an idea, I’m not really a singer.  But I wonder how the family and 
friends would react if I started singing the Lord’s Prayer?  Well, I suppose 
why not?
Hmm.
Maybe they can join in if some of them would like to sing along.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:43 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they
held up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started
to break. Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep,
otherwise I would have.

Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in my
thoughts

Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those
memories of good times together.

On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:

I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you imagine 
having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

Pamela Fairchild


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara

On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Pauline Smith
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline


On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I
think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have
weeks and weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier
to just retype them.



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On
Behalf Of
lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, yes you should have. Did you replace the vanilla in the pie for 
angustoria? How much did you put in there, more than the recipe called 
for? (smile)


On 7/11/2020 4:23 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:

What do you mean a little nip<. . Believe it or not, I never did.
   Maybe I should have.  
Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

I bet you took a little nip every once in a while knowing you! (lol)


On 7/11/2020 3:41 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of angastoria.  You 
used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least that was the theory.  In 
fact, now that you mention it, I always used a tiny bit in my pecan pies.  Looking 
back after all these years I can’t say if the stuff really did anything.  

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a lot of 
them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the Minnesota 
school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used Angosura in every 
recipe. I always wondered what that was because there was never an explanation, 
but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)


On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t know 
her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something like 
Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show though.  
Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara


On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Pauline Smith
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline



On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
them.



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

That’s hysterical! Haha.  I got a little tired of dreading it and just figured 
better figure out what it was saying.  The time I was totally shocked was when 
I saw a word and wondered what it was.
Atmosphere. A T M O S dot 5, H. Do you believe it?


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: WitKnit via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:53 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: WitKnit
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I have some cookbooks in my office but not many.  The thermoform books were 
great for us because if one managed to get something on one of the pages they 
could just be wiped off with a damp cloth.  As for UEB, I have a friend who 
calls it “ugly English Braille.”  Makes me grin every time it comes up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they held 
> up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started to break. 
> Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, otherwise I would 
> have.
> 
> Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in my 
> thoughts
> 
> Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those memories of 
> good times together.
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
>> suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
>> On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you 
>> imagine having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather 
>> than electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make 
>> room for all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes 
>> over the years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.
>> 
>> Pamela Fairchild
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Linda S. 
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>> 
>> Hi everyone:
>> 
>> 
>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
>> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had 
>> a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know 
>> about her?
>> 
>> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
>> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
>> 
>> 
>> Everyone stay well and safe!
>> 
>> 
>> Linda and Lara
>> 
>>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Hi Pauline,\
>>> 
>>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
>>> books out.
>>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
>>> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming 
>>> back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
>>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>>> donated to them from someone.
>>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
>>> good.
>>> 
>>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
>>> finish with it right away.
>>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
>>> getting them back to them on time.
>>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
>>> soon.
>>> Lora
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>> 
>>> Good Afternoon,
>>> 
>>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
>>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
>>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
>>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
>>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
>>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>>> 
>>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
>>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
>>> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
>>> worry about that right now.
>>> 
>>> Pauline
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
 I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
 Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
 Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
 I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I
 think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Thanks, Linda and Everyonee, I don’t want to forget anyone. There is so much 
strength in prayer.
I had an idea, I’m not really a singer.  But I wonder how the family and 
friends would react if I started singing the Lord’s Prayer?  Well, I suppose 
why not?
Hmm.
Maybe they can join in if some of them would like to sing along.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:43 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they 
held up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started 
to break. Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, 
otherwise I would have.

Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in my 
thoughts

Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those 
memories of good times together.

On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
> suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
> On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you 
> imagine having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
> electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
> all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
> years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.
>
> Pamela Fairchild
> 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Linda S. 
> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> Hi everyone:
>
>
> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
> Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
> cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about 
> her?
>
> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
>
>
> Everyone stay well and safe!
>
>
> Linda and Lara
>
> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Pauline,\
>>
>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
>> books out.
>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
>> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming 
>> back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>> donated to them from someone.
>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.
>>
>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
>> with it right away.
>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
>> them back to them on time.
>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
>> Lora
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>
>> Good Afternoon,
>>
>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>>
>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
>> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
>> worry about that right now.
>>
>> Pauline
>>
>>
>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>>  wrote:
>>> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
>>> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
>>> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
>>> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I
>>> think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
>>> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>
>>> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>>
>>> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have
>>> weeks and weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier
>>> to just retype 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Hi Pamela,
Yep, I’d have to move out too but I do read all the reccipes on my SD cards in 
my Vic.  I’m glad I have more than one, but I just use one when I am recording.
I try to do them in smaller groups so I don’t wear my head out, haha.
I’ll have to look so I can tell you what I have had so far.  There is one book 
I did not do, it’s the Pillsbury fast and Healthy book.  I found out I had 
downloaded it from Bookshare.
So, I just read the contents.  That way, I will have the contents to browse, so 
since as you probably know, I know I am preaching to the choir, but here is 
what I found out.
You can, of course, play a book from there in your Vicand he or she will read 
it to you.
However, when you open that big folder in your computer, you go down a couple 
folders where it says the name with XML at the end of it.  Open that folder, 
and there, big as life, it shows you the entire book!  Really, you can see 
every word!  That shocked me, but is also very cool, because then you can look 
up a recipe and find it.
I was amazed because no one had shown me before.
 So, no need for me to write out that Pillsbury book.
But I’ll go look up what I did speak on the Vic.


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From: Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:38 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: pamelafairch...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to. 
On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you imagine 
having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

Pamela Fairchild 


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara

On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Hi Pauline,\
>
> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
> books out.
> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
> to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
> to them from someone.
> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.
>
> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
> with it right away.
> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
> them back to them on time.
> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
> Lora
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Pauline Smith
> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you 
> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting 
> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard 
> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily 
> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the 
> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>
> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but 
> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't 
> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to 
> worry about that right now.
>
> Pauline
>
>
> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
>> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
>> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the 
>> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
>> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I 
>> think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
>> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

What do you mean a little nip<. . Believe it or not, I never did.
  Maybe I should have.  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bet you took a little nip every once in a while knowing you! (lol)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:41 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of angastoria. 
>>  You used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least that was the 
>> theory.  In fact, now that you mention it, I always used a tiny bit in my 
>> pecan pies.  Looking back after all these years I can’t say if the stuff 
>> really did anything.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
>>> Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a lot 
>>> of them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the 
>>> Minnesota school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used 
>>> Angosura in every recipe. I always wondered what that was because there was 
>>> never an explanation, but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t 
 know her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
 Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something 
 like Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show 
 though.  Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>>  wrote:
> Hi everyone:
> 
> 
> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
> had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
> know about her?
> 
> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe 
> it's just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't 
> changed.
> 
> 
> Everyone stay well and safe!
> 
> 
> Linda and Lara
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Pauline,\
>> 
>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending 
>> braille books out.
>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
>> California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
>> something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at 
>> the Library.
>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>> donated to them from someone.
>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
>> good.
>> 
>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
>> finish with it right away.
>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
>> getting them back to them on time.
>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
>> soon.
>> Lora
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>> 
>> Good Afternoon,
>> 
>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>> 
>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
>> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
>> worry about that right now.
>> 
>> Pauline
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
>>> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
>>> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
>>> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
>>> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I 
>>> think I
>>> had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
>>> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 

Re: [CnD] the air fry recipes being discussed lately

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

It came from Cooks Essential and I got it from QVC in 2016.  Mine had a little 
what they call a wire rack.  My friend’s model was the same, but it came with 
what they call a cake pan.
We called them a grill and a bowl.
But, I called around early in 2018 and inquired about getting these items.  I 
gave him the ones he and I had, and I kept the new items I bought.
I have never tried to bake a little cake in my air fryer, but that would be 
interesting.
It’s a metal bowl with a handle on it that lays down to the side.
You’d have to handle it with a mitt.
But I did use that little grill a few times for chicken patties or burgers.
If you press the middle button, then the lower right, then the middle again, 
they beep and then it starts the preheating cycle, maybe it takes up to 10 
minutes.  But I think it heats it to 350.  There are 4 presets on it, so after 
it is preheated, you press the middle one, then whichever of the other 4, and 
the middle again.
The four buttons have meanings, whether you are changing time or temp.
But as far as the presets, you go by: the top left says fries, chicken, steak, 
and fish.
I think fries is 400 for 12 minutes. I think chicken is 18 minutes at 360, 
steak is 10 minutes at 360 and I think fish is 400 for 10.
But in some other mode, when you press those buttons, they increase either the 
time or temp.
I never learned much more than the presets.
Somewhere in this house is the book that came with mine.  If I could have it 
found, I could get someone to record it for me.  Now, more books are available 
to us.
I’ve been just going by the seat of my pants.  I just feel the potatoes along 
the way and decide they need more time by the way it feels.
 , 
I am sure glad I got this one so I can at least feel these 5 buttons.  I think 
it cost me about 120 bucks or so and I think I got 5 easy payments.

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From: Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:30 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Jennifer Thompson
Subject: Re: [CnD] the air fry recipes being discussed lately

What is the name of your air fryer?
Thanks. 


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf 
Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:59 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] the air fry recipes being discussed lately

Hi Jean,
Thanks for sharing these recipes.
It is a different book than the one that Marjorie sells at the Book Stop.  I 
have that bpook, and about 48 other ones.  I enjoy buying them and also helping 
once in a while to put one together.
It’s so much fun to read them or just to make things.
My air fryer has been here since 2016.  It’s not like these new fancy ones they 
have.  There are just two top buttons, two bottom buttons, and one in the 
middle.
They beep when you press them, and it’s not really too complicated.  Mostly I 
like to put frozen foods in it, but I have made a few raw things.
I like my microwave, oven, crockpot and my fryer.
Lora and Firefly


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From: Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:21 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Jeanne Fike
Subject: [CnD] the air fry recipes being discussed lately

Hi everyone,

Below my name is the Our Special columnist’s column containing the air fry 
recipes.  She gave me permission to post it. Her cookbooks are on 
Blindmicemegamall under Blind bookstop.

Jeanne

 

JULY/AUGUST2020

KITCHEN CORNER

FROM AIR FRY EVERY DAY

By Ben Mims

I hope you are all doing as well as can be expected as by the time this goes to 
press we hope and pray life will be back to some sort of normalcy. I have 
chosen Air Fryer Recipes  for this column as Air Fryers seems to be in vogue 
these days. See you in September, Marjorie.

TRIPLE-COCONUT SHRIMP

Serves 2 to 4

1/2 lb peeled and deveined medium shrimp (tails intact)

1 cup canned coconut milk

Finely grated zest of 1 lime

Kosher salt

1/2 cup panko breadcrumbs

1/2 cup unsweetened shredded coconut

Freshly ground black pepper

Cooking spray

1 small or 1/2 medium cucumber, halved and seeded

1 cup coconut yogurt (or dairy yogurt)

1 serrano chile, seeded and minced

In a bowl, combine the shrimp, coconut milk, lime zest, and 1/2 tsp kosher 
salt. Let the shrimp stand for 10 minutes.

Meanwhile, in a separate bowl, stir together the breadcrumbs and shredded 
coconut and season with salt and pepper.

A few at a time, add the shrimp to the breadcrumb mixture and toss to coat 
completely. Transfer the shrimp to a wire rack set over a baking sheet. 

Spray the shrimp all over with cooking spray.

Transfer the shrimp to the air fryer and cook at 400F until golden brown and 
cooked through, about

4 minutes. Move the shrimp to a serving platter and season with more salt.

Grate the cucumber into a small bowl. Stir in the coconut yogurt and chile and 
season with salt and 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Simon Wong via Cookinginthedark]

I don’t know anything about UVB, nor do I care about that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone:
> 
> 
> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
> Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
> cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about 
> her?
> 
> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
> 
> 
> Everyone stay well and safe!
> 
> 
> Linda and Lara
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Pauline,\
>> 
>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
>> books out.
>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
>> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming 
>> back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>> donated to them from someone.
>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.
>> 
>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
>> with it right away.
>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
>> them back to them on time.
>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
>> Lora
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>> 
>> Good Afternoon,
>> 
>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>> 
>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
>> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
>> worry about that right now.
>> 
>> Pauline
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
>>> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
>>> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
>>> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
>>> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
>>> had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
>>> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>> 
>>> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
>>> weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
>>> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>> 
>>> I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
>>> THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
>>> Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
>>> the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
>>> describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
>>> any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
>>> "the housewife can make her own with a slate and
>>> 
>>> Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.
>>> 
>>> Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
>>> to be in the index with that name.
>>> 
>>> Lori
>>> 
>>> and
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

I have some cookbooks in my office but not many.  The thermoform books were 
great for us because if one managed to get something on one of the pages they 
could just be wiped off with a damp cloth.  As for UEB, I have a friend who 
calls it “ugly English Braille.”  Makes me grin every time it comes up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they held 
> up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started to break. 
> Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, otherwise I would 
> have.
> 
> Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in my 
> thoughts
> 
> Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those memories of 
> good times together.
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
>> suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
>> On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you 
>> imagine having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather 
>> than electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make 
>> room for all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes 
>> over the years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.
>> 
>> Pamela Fairchild
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Linda S. 
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>> 
>> Hi everyone:
>> 
>> 
>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
>> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had 
>> a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know 
>> about her?
>> 
>> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
>> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
>> 
>> 
>> Everyone stay well and safe!
>> 
>> 
>> Linda and Lara
>> 
>>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Hi Pauline,\
>>> 
>>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
>>> books out.
>>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
>>> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming 
>>> back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
>>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>>> donated to them from someone.
>>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
>>> good.
>>> 
>>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
>>> finish with it right away.
>>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
>>> getting them back to them on time.
>>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
>>> soon.
>>> Lora
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>> 
>>> Good Afternoon,
>>> 
>>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
>>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
>>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
>>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
>>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
>>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>>> 
>>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
>>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
>>> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
>>> worry about that right now.
>>> 
>>> Pauline
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
 I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
 Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
 Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
 I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I
 think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
 I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
 
 
 
 Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
 From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
 To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
 Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
 
 Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have
 weeks and weeks of back-translator fun.  It would 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

I bet you took a little nip every once in a while knowing you! (lol)

On 7/11/2020 3:41 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:

I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of angastoria.  You 
used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least that was the theory.  In 
fact, now that you mention it, I always used a tiny bit in my pecan pies.  Looking 
back after all these years I can’t say if the stuff really did anything.  

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a lot of 
them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the Minnesota 
school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used Angosura in every 
recipe. I always wondered what that was because there was never an explanation, 
but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)


On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t know 
her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something like 
Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show though.  
Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara


On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Pauline Smith
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline



On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
them.



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.



I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
the Blind. 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they 
held up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started 
to break. Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, 
otherwise I would have.


Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in my 
thoughts


Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those 
memories of good times together.


On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:

I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you imagine 
having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

Pamela Fairchild


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara

On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Pauline Smith
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline


On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I
think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have
weeks and weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier
to just retype them.



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On
Behalf Of
lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.



I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille
Editor American Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan
Kentucky School for the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This
book is only one volume. It describes the labels in the introduction
but, the book I have does not have any remaining. It goes on to say
that you can purchase labels from APH or "the housewife can 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of angastoria.  
You used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least that was the 
theory.  In fact, now that you mention it, I always used a tiny bit in my pecan 
pies.  Looking back after all these years I can’t say if the stuff really did 
anything.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
> Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a lot of 
> them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the Minnesota 
> school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used Angosura in every 
> recipe. I always wondered what that was because there was never an 
> explanation, but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t 
>> know her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
>> Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something 
>> like Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show 
>> though.  Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
>>> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had 
>>> a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know 
>>> about her?
>>> 
>>> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
>>> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Everyone stay well and safe!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Linda and Lara
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi Pauline,\
 
 You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
 books out.
 I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
 California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
 something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at 
 the Library.
 They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
 donated to them from someone.
 I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
 good.
 
 They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
 finish with it right away.
 I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
 getting them back to them on time.
 I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
 soon.
 Lora
 
 
 Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
 From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
 To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
 Cc: Pauline Smith
 Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
 
 Good Afternoon,
 
 I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
 post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
 materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
 from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
 stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
 places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
 
 On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
 don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
 had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
 worry about that right now.
 
 Pauline
 
 
> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>  wrote:
> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I 
> think I
> had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
> 
> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
> weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
> them.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf 
> Of
> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

I remember that little booklet, and I actually owned a bottle of angastoria.  
You used it in recipes to help the flavors blend, or at least that was the 
theory.  In fact, now that you mention it, I always used a tiny bit in my pecan 
pies.  Looking back after all these years I can’t say if the stuff really did 
anything.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
> Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a lot of 
> them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the Minnesota 
> school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used Angosura in every 
> recipe. I always wondered what that was because there was never an 
> explanation, but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t 
>> know her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
>> Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something 
>> like Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show 
>> though.  Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
>>> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had 
>>> a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know 
>>> about her?
>>> 
>>> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
>>> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Everyone stay well and safe!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Linda and Lara
>>> 
 On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
 Hi Pauline,\
 
 You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
 books out.
 I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
 California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
 something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at 
 the Library.
 They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
 donated to them from someone.
 I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
 good.
 
 They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
 finish with it right away.
 I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
 getting them back to them on time.
 I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
 soon.
 Lora
 
 
 Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
 From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
 To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
 Cc: Pauline Smith
 Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
 
 Good Afternoon,
 
 I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
 post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
 materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
 from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
 stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
 places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
 
 On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
 don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
 had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
 worry about that right now.
 
 Pauline
 
 
> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>  wrote:
> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I 
> think I
> had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
> 
> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
> weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
> them.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf 
> Of
> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark]

I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to. 
On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you imagine 
having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather than 
electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make room for 
all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes over the 
years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.

Pamela Fairchild 


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara

On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Hi Pauline,\
>
> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
> books out.
> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
> to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
> to them from someone.
> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.
>
> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
> with it right away.
> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
> them back to them on time.
> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
> Lora
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Pauline Smith
> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you 
> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting 
> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard 
> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily 
> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the 
> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>
> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but 
> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't 
> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to 
> worry about that right now.
>
> Pauline
>
>
> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
>> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
>> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the 
>> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
>> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I 
>> think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
>> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>
>> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have 
>> weeks and weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier 
>> to just retype them.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cookinginthedark  On 
>> Behalf Of
>> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
>> Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>
>> I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE 
>> BENEFIT OF THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille 
>> Editor American Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan 
>> Kentucky School for the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This 
>> book is only one volume. It describes the labels in the introduction 
>> but, the book I have does not have any remaining. It goes on to say 
>> that you can purchase labels from APH or "the housewife can make her 
>> own with a slate and
>>
>> Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.
>>
>> Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does 
>> not seem to be in the index with that name.
>>
>> Lori
>>
>> and
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This email has been checked for 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Thanks, Karen!  He was 59, he was 8 years and 3 days younger.  He was over here 
on the first two Saturdays in May, and I had made this big crockpot of bean 
soup with all kinds of veggies and stuff in it.
He seemed to like it, because I was answering questions about what was in it.
Then on May 9, he seemed really down and I did start to worry.  He made an 
attempt on April 22, and stayed at the hospital for six days.
But he swore to me and to God he would never try again.
But, it was reported to us on the 17th of May he never showed up at work all 
week.
My son had to go and open his house with  the police and they found him.
I’ve never had anything so awful happen.  With my husband, George, we knew it 
was coming in 2012.
I’m sad he never got to meet Firefly.
 Dan loved my dogs, both guide and just pet ones.  I think he just got bvery 
depressed with some things at work.
We went to some nice concerts together in recent years.
Like Kenny Rogers, Gordon Lightfoot, Paul McCartney and the Eagles.
We also met the lady who was the little girl in It’s A Wonderful Life.  She was 
76 when we met her and he bought a picture.
I’ll klways have those memories.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:00 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Aw'w'w'w, Lora, I'm so sorry for your sad loss. I 
know we all appreciate that you  are doing your best.

Karen



At 11:06 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>Pauline and All, I really goofed up, that place 
>is in Madison, Wisconsin. I’ve had my mind on 
>several other things today. I also lost my 
>younger brother, Dan, who took his own life in 
>May.  So I apologize if I get a little batty 
>once in a while. I’ll go and get that info. In 
>fact, I copied the whole page, so I’ll just 
>send it up here and you can look at it. The most 
>recent book I got from them in March is a little 
>book called Simply Better Easy Potlucks. I’ll 
>be right back and just copy that big page. Lora 
>Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Pauline 
>Smith via Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 
>11, 2020 1:52 PM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Pauline Smith 
>Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks Good 
>Afternoon, I have not heard of this Indiana 
>resource Lora mentioned. Could you post contact 
>information for them, please?  You may not be 
>getting materials from them due to what's going 
>on right now.  I have heard from several 
>correspondents that their libraries have 
>temporarily stopped sending out braille 
>materials due to the pandemic. One of the places 
>that sends out monthly devotionals has done 
>this. On another subject, I am with Lora as far 
>as UEB. I can read it but don't like it.  I 
>wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I 
>hadn't had the possibility of needing to teach 
>it. Of course, I don't have to worry about that 
>right now. Pauline On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via 
>Cookinginthedark  
>wrote: > I can read the UEB, but don’t really 
>have to like it, haha. > Hey, have any of you 
>guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from 
>the > Braille Library and Transcribing Service 
>in Indianapolis, Indiana? > I just started 
>getting them somewherearound a year and a half 
>ago. I think I > had about 8 books, but have not 
>received one for a couple months. > I also get 
>Seeing It Our Way Magazine. > > > > Sent from 
>Mail for Windows 10 > > From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookinginthedark > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
>1:19 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > 
>Cc: meward1...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [CnD] 
>old braille cookbooks > > Yes, they would have 
>to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have 
>weeks and > weeks of back-translator fun.  It 
>would probably be easier to just retype > 
>them. > > > > -Original Message- > From: 
>Cookinginthedark 
> On 
>Behalf Of > lorischarff--- via 
>Cookinginthedark > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
>10:51 AM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > 
>Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com > Subject: [CnD] old 
>braille cookbooks > > I think for NLS to reissue 
>the books they would have to be put into 
>UEB. > > > > I have a braille copy of "THE 
>BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF > 
>THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, 
>Braille Editor American > Printing House for the 
>Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School 
>for > the Blind. It says it was embossed in 
>1948. This book is only one volume. It > 
>describes the labels in the introduction but, 
>the book I have does not have > any remaining. 
>It goes on to say that you can purchase labels 
>from APH or > "the housewife can make her own 
>with a slate and > > Stiless and gummb lables 
>from the dime store. > > Looked to see if I 
>could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does 
>not seem > to be in the index with that 
>name. > > Lori > > and > > > > -- > This email 
>has been checked for viruses by AVG. > 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, the Braille Transcribers Guild in San Diego did a lot of cook books. 
Wonder what ever happened to them all? When I left the center I kept a 
lot of them in my office. There was also a really nice one from the the 
Minnesota school for the Blind. I remember one that I read that used 
Angosura in every recipe. I always wondered what that was because there 
was never an explanation, but I think it's some kind of lizuor. (smile)


On 7/11/2020 3:21 PM, WitKnit via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t know 
her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something like 
Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show though.  
Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about her?

Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's just 
the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.


Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara


On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Pauline Smith
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline



On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
them.



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.



I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
"the housewife can make her own with a slate and

Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.

Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
to be in the index with that name.

Lori

and



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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Ihave the New King James in 20 volumes on my living room shelves.
It was donated to my regional library so I put in for it.  Someone was ahead of 
me, and they said they couldn’t take it, so they loaded it onto my bus home 
from a meeting.
I don’t think my driver was too thrilled, but it was kind of cool coming home 
with the Word!
 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:50 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Awww, I don't even know what condition those poor 
books are in anymore. Makes me so sad, because my 
Bibles are out there, too. *sigh*

Karen



At 10:26 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>Oh, wow, I have a coffee can with a tight 
>fitting lid.  I pour the 4 or 5 pound can into 
>the can.  If it doesn’t run out, I put one of 
>those bread ties really tight on the sugar bag 
>just until it goes down enough for the rest to 
>fit. I’d never want the possibility of a 
>roach, an ant, a fly or any other kind of a bug 
>when I can’t see or hear them there.  Yucky! 
>Well, if that volume 3 ever crawls out of the 
>shed, let me know, I could probably do it all 
>within a week or so, unless I get really busy 
>fast. I must have had Volumes 1 and 2 about 20 
>years and they are still on one of the shelves 
>in my basement. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 
>From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark Sent: 
>Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:49 PM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Karen Delzer 
>Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the 
>blind there certainly was an Evelyn Lee braille 
>cookbook, and it had three volumes. 
>Unfortunately, it is out in our shed, as we now 
>live in a home that is too small for a 
>bookshelf. Can you imagine? Sooo frustrating! 
>Anyway, some of the recipes are good. But there 
>is a tip in there I think is just nuts! Well, 
>many may be, but this one, if you have ants, put 
>your sugar bowl on a paper plate and sprinkle 
>ant powder onto the plate so the ants won't get 
>into the sugar. Well, ants literally send me 
>screaming, so I can't deal. But, really??? Put 
>ant poison onto a paper plate that you will 
>touch as you get into the sugar bowl? Um, I 
>don't think so! Karen At 07:36 AM 7/11/2020, you 
>wrote: >I’ll tell you about one I would 
>like to find. >Some time around the early 
>1990’s I think it >was, a gentleman came to 
>my house and said he >was a retired water man 
>and that he remembered >seeing me when he came 
>to read the water >meter.  He said he and his 
>wife were moving and >that his sister had passed 
>away and he had some >braille cookbooks. Well, I 
>got pretty excited of >course.  One of them was 
>the 1948 book called >The Braille 
>Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but >I like 
>it. The other 2 volumes are the first 2 >volumes 
>of a book called the New Evelyn 
>Lee’s >Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes 
>because the >contents of Volumes 2 and 3 are in 
>Volume 1. But >there was no Volume 3.  I think 
>the book came >out in 1963.  If anyone would 
>happen to have it, >I would love to get a copy 
>so I could copy it. >I’d just transcribe it 
>into my computer and >just give it back. Maybe 
>some library somewhere >has it.  I asked about 
>it through my library and >no one knows anything 
>about it. I was going >through a collection of 
>recipes I got ahold of >from a shared folder a 
>few years ago, and I got >Evelyn Lee’s 
>Fried Chicken. It does sound >good, but wherever 
>they got that recipe, there >must be her braille 
>book.  I would appreciate >any help in at least 
>borrowing a copy of that >Volume 3. Lora and 
>Leader Dog Firefly Sent from >Mail for Windows 
>10 From: meward1954--- via >Cookinginthedark 
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 >10:21 AM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
>Cc: >meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] 
>More >books written for the blind There was 
>also >Cooking with Feeling by Deborah 
>DeBord.  This is >at National Braille Press, if 
>they still have >it.  The publication date is 
>1997, so it is a >bit more up to date, though 
>far from >recent.  There are five soft-cover 
>Braille >volumes.  The book is actually a 
>combination of >two different books, a 
>three-part series called >Cooking with Feeling 
>Recipes and a two-part one >called Cooking with 
>Feeling >Techniques.  Techniques are 
>well-described.  I >believe she also had a bread 
>machine book.  I >don't know if there are 
>accessible bread >machines now.  I don't have 
>one because I think >that a machine would take 
>all the fun out of >making bread.  What would be 
>the point, if I >couldn't knead out all my 
>frustrations?  There >is another Braille Book on 
>BARD, A leaf from our >table / BRA10152 Porter, 
>Marie; Catholic Guild. >2 volumes. A production 
>of Catholic Guild. This >book was put together 
>by a group of blind >women.  I believe that 
>these women all cooked >and shared these 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[WitKnit via Cookinginthedark]

Hi Linda and list.  I do remember that cookbook you mentioned, but I don’t know 
her last name either.  The book had been transcribed by the San Diego 
Transcribers Guild and I had a copy for many years.  Wasn’t it something like 
Elena’s Mexican Food Cookbook?  I didn’t know about her radio show though.  
Darn, I might have enjoyed that.  Evelyn

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone:
> 
> 
> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was blind. 
> Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also had a 
> cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone know about 
> her?
> 
> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
> 
> 
> Everyone stay well and safe!
> 
> 
> Linda and Lara
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi Pauline,\
>> 
>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
>> books out.
>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
>> over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming 
>> back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>> donated to them from someone.
>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.
>> 
>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
>> with it right away.
>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
>> them back to them on time.
>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
>> Lora
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>> 
>> Good Afternoon,
>> 
>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
>> post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
>> materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
>> from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
>> stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
>> places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.
>> 
>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
>> don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
>> had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
>> worry about that right now.
>> 
>> Pauline
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
>>> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
>>> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
>>> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
>>> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
>>> had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
>>> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>> 
>>> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
>>> weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
>>> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>> 
>>> I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
>>> THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
>>> Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
>>> the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
>>> describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
>>> any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
>>> "the housewife can make her own with a slate and
>>> 
>>> Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.
>>> 
>>> Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
>>> to be in the index with that name.
>>> 
>>> Lori
>>> 
>>> and
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Linda S. via Cookinginthedark]

Hi everyone:


in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
know about her?


Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe 
it's just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't 
changed.



Everyone stay well and safe!


Linda and Lara

On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Pauline Smith
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline


On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
them.



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.



I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
"the housewife can make her own with a slate and

Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.

Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
to be in the index with that name.

Lori

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Re: [CnD] the air fry recipes being discussed lately

[Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark]

What is the name of your air fryer?
Thanks. 


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Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [CnD] the air fry recipes being discussed lately

Hi Jean,
Thanks for sharing these recipes.
It is a different book than the one that Marjorie sells at the Book Stop.  I 
have that bpook, and about 48 other ones.  I enjoy buying them and also helping 
once in a while to put one together.
It’s so much fun to read them or just to make things.
My air fryer has been here since 2016.  It’s not like these new fancy ones they 
have.  There are just two top buttons, two bottom buttons, and one in the 
middle.
They beep when you press them, and it’s not really too complicated.  Mostly I 
like to put frozen foods in it, but I have made a few raw things.
I like my microwave, oven, crockpot and my fryer.
Lora and Firefly


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From: Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:21 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Jeanne Fike
Subject: [CnD] the air fry recipes being discussed lately

Hi everyone,

Below my name is the Our Special columnist’s column containing the air fry 
recipes.  She gave me permission to post it. Her cookbooks are on 
Blindmicemegamall under Blind bookstop.

Jeanne

 

JULY/AUGUST2020

KITCHEN CORNER

FROM AIR FRY EVERY DAY

By Ben Mims

I hope you are all doing as well as can be expected as by the time this goes to 
press we hope and pray life will be back to some sort of normalcy. I have 
chosen Air Fryer Recipes  for this column as Air Fryers seems to be in vogue 
these days. See you in September, Marjorie.

TRIPLE-COCONUT SHRIMP

Serves 2 to 4

1/2 lb peeled and deveined medium shrimp (tails intact)

1 cup canned coconut milk

Finely grated zest of 1 lime

Kosher salt

1/2 cup panko breadcrumbs

1/2 cup unsweetened shredded coconut

Freshly ground black pepper

Cooking spray

1 small or 1/2 medium cucumber, halved and seeded

1 cup coconut yogurt (or dairy yogurt)

1 serrano chile, seeded and minced

In a bowl, combine the shrimp, coconut milk, lime zest, and 1/2 tsp kosher 
salt. Let the shrimp stand for 10 minutes.

Meanwhile, in a separate bowl, stir together the breadcrumbs and shredded 
coconut and season with salt and pepper.

A few at a time, add the shrimp to the breadcrumb mixture and toss to coat 
completely. Transfer the shrimp to a wire rack set over a baking sheet. 

Spray the shrimp all over with cooking spray.

Transfer the shrimp to the air fryer and cook at 400F until golden brown and 
cooked through, about

4 minutes. Move the shrimp to a serving platter and season with more salt.

Grate the cucumber into a small bowl. Stir in the coconut yogurt and chile and 
season with salt and pepper. Serve alongside the shrimp while they’re warm.

Go Basic:

To make plain fried shrimp, omit the coconut milk, lime zest, and shredded 
coconut. Set up a breading station with 1 cup all-purpose flour, 4 large eggs, 
lightly beaten, and 1 cup panko breadcrumbs in separate shallow bowls, and 
season each with salt and pepper. Working one at a time, coat each shrimp in 
the flour, dip in the egg, and dredge in the breadcrumbs. Transfer the shrimp 
to a wire rack set over a baking sheet and continue with the recipe.

AIR FRYER CLASSIC BEEF POT ROAST

  Preparation time: 10 minutes

Cooking time: 1 hour

Servings: 4

1 lb beef

1 tsp paprika

2 tsp cardamom

1/2 cup fresh coriander, chopped

1 bay leaf

2 Tbsp  ginger garlic paste

2 Tbsp olive oil

2 cinnamon sticks

4 spring onions

1 tsp black pepper

1 cup water

Salt to taste

Preheat your air fryer to 400F.

Discard the bones of the beef and cut it into medium chunks.

In a large mixing bowl add the beef. Add in the onion, ginger garlic paste, 
cinnamon stick, salt, pepper, oil, bay leaf, coriander, cardamom, paprika and 
water. Mix well and let it marinade for about 1 hour.

Add to a casserole dish and roast in the air fryer for about 1 hour. Serve hot.

MEMPHIS-STYLE BBQ PORK RIBS

Serves 2

1 Tbsp kosher salt

1 Tbsp dark brown sugar

1 Tbsp sweet paprika

1 tsp garlic powder

1 tsp onion powder

1 tsp poultry seasoning

1/2 tsp mustard powder

1/2 tsp freshly ground black pepper

2-1/4 lb individually cut St. Louis-style pork spareribs In a large bowl, whisk 
together the salt, brown sugar, paprika, garlic powder, onion powder, poultry 
seasoning, mustard powder, and pepper. 

Add the ribs and toss and rub the seasonings into them with your hands until 
they’re fully coated.

Arrange the ribs in the air fryer basket standing up on their ends and leaned 
up against the wall of the basket and each other. Cook at 350F until the ribs 
are tender inside and golden brown and crisp on the outside, about
35 minutes. Transfer the ribs to plates and serve hot.

AIR FRYER CHICKEN FAJITAS

Preparation time: 

Re: [CnD] FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020

[Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark]

Oh sorry, well now any of you that want to can sign up for this.  

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From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf 
Of meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [CnD] FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert 
June 19, 2020

That's the Access Technology Affordability Act.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/815


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:27 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Jennifer Thompson 
Subject: [CnD] FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 
19, 2020

Hi I know this nothing to do with cooking but this is important.

Here is the bill I was talking about for technology.

 


Date: June 21, 2020 at 7:14:49 AM CDT
To: nfbwn...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020
Reply-To: nfbwn...@googlegroups.com  

Hello, we need everybody to call their representatives to urge them to sign 
onto this bill. We have two of the seven Congress people signed on and no 
senators yet. Thank you

 

 

John Fritz
608-387-0494  

johnfrit...@gmail.com  


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I am Living The Life I Want!

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From: "Pare, John via NFBNet-Members-List" mailto:nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org> >
Date: June 19, 2020 at 3:51:59 PM CDT
To: "nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org  " 
mailto:nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org> >
Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020
Reply-To: "Pare, John" 

 

Dear Federation Family:

 

Great news! We are up to 101 cosponsors on the Access Technology Affordability 
Act in the House and 23 in the Senate. This would not be possible without your 
calls, emails, and social media. 

 

Since the beginning of June, we have gained ten new cosponsors in the House:

Rep. Thompson, Glenn [R-PA-15]

Rep. Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL-7]  

Rep. Crawford, Eric A. "Rick" [R-AR-1] 

Rep. Sherrill, Mikie [D-NJ-11]  

Rep. Mfume, Kweisi [D-MD-7]

Rep. Bilirakis, Gus M. [R-FL-12]   

Rep. Bost, Mike [R-IL-12]  

Rep. McCollum, Betty [D-MN-4]

Rep. Welch, Peter [D-VT-At Large]

 

And in that same time span we’ve gained one new cosponsor in the Senate:

Sen. Klobuchar, Amy [D-MN]

 

Yesterday, the House Ways and Means Committee, Subcommittee on Select Revenue 
Measures, held a hearing entitled Tax Relief to Support Workers and Families 
during the COVID-19 Recession.

 

Rep. Thompson, who is both chair of the subcommittee and the sponsor of the 
Access Technology Affordability Act, expressed strong support for the bill and 
urged his fellow members to support it as well. He also entered the attached 
support letter from President Riccobono into the record.

 

Please continue to contact your senators and representatives and urge them to 
cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability Act if they have not already done 
so. A complete list of Senate and House cosponsors can be found below.

 

When you call or email your senators or representative you might say something 
like:

 

"Hello, my name is [YOUR NAME], and I am a constituent of 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME]. I live in [CITY, STATE]. COVID-19 has impacted 
employment and educational opportunities for blind Americans. In a time of 
physical distancing, self-sufficiency is also paramount. I urge 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME] to cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability 
Act [H.R. 2086 in the House/S. 815 in the Senate]. This bill creates a 
refundable tax credit in the amount of $2,000 to offset the cost of expensive 
access technology, such as Braille embossers, Braille notetakers, and screen 
reading software. In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic a bill that will help 
increase employment opportunities, educational opportunities, and 
self-sufficiency for blind Americans is needed more than ever. Thank you.”

 

You can contact your member of Congress by calling the Capitol Switchboard and 
asking for the office in question. The number is 202-224-3121. If you email 
your representative or senators, please copy Jeff Kaloc at jka...@nfb.org 
 . Your calls and emails do make a difference.

 

It is best to call or email the relevant tax staffer in your member of 
Congress's office. If you need the name and email of the appropriate staff 
person for any Senate or House office, please email Jesa Medders at 
jmedd...@nfb.org  . 

 

The more cosponsors we have in the House and Senate, the more likely Congress 
will include this bill in the next COVID-19 package. That package is 

Re: [CnD] air fryer RE: FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020

[Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark]

Yes I looked at one today at Wall Mart it is flat screen.
I will not get one.


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Of Johna Gravitt via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:14 AM
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Subject: [CnD] air fryer RE: FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] 
Legislative Alert June 19, 2020

Just so you know that air fryer plus is not very accessible either. So I would 
look for a different model.  I just had my friend here helping me with it and 
it turns out it is like a touch screen on an iPhone so labeling it does not 
work.  Sorry for all of the confusion and getting your hopes up.
I was under the impression based on the customer service rep's description that 
it was flat screen and buttons, but that is not the case.
Johna

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To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Jennifer Thompson 
Subject: [CnD] FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 
19, 2020

Hi I know this nothing to do with cooking but this is important.

Here is the bill I was talking about for technology.

 


Date: June 21, 2020 at 7:14:49 AM CDT
To: nfbwn...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020
Reply-To: nfbwn...@googlegroups.com  

Hello, we need everybody to call their representatives to urge them to sign 
onto this bill. We have two of the seven Congress people signed on and no 
senators yet. Thank you

 

 

John Fritz
608-387-0494  

johnfrit...@gmail.com  


Living Intentionally For Excellence!


I am Living The Life I Want!

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From: "Pare, John via NFBNet-Members-List" mailto:nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org> >
Date: June 19, 2020 at 3:51:59 PM CDT
To: "nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org  " 
mailto:nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org> >
Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020
Reply-To: "Pare, John" 

 

Dear Federation Family:

 

Great news! We are up to 101 cosponsors on the Access Technology Affordability 
Act in the House and 23 in the Senate. This would not be possible without your 
calls, emails, and social media. 

 

Since the beginning of June, we have gained ten new cosponsors in the House:

Rep. Thompson, Glenn [R-PA-15]

Rep. Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL-7]  

Rep. Crawford, Eric A. "Rick" [R-AR-1] 

Rep. Sherrill, Mikie [D-NJ-11]  

Rep. Mfume, Kweisi [D-MD-7]

Rep. Bilirakis, Gus M. [R-FL-12]   

Rep. Bost, Mike [R-IL-12]  

Rep. McCollum, Betty [D-MN-4]

Rep. Welch, Peter [D-VT-At Large]

 

And in that same time span we’ve gained one new cosponsor in the Senate:

Sen. Klobuchar, Amy [D-MN]

 

Yesterday, the House Ways and Means Committee, Subcommittee on Select Revenue 
Measures, held a hearing entitled Tax Relief to Support Workers and Families 
during the COVID-19 Recession.

 

Rep. Thompson, who is both chair of the subcommittee and the sponsor of the 
Access Technology Affordability Act, expressed strong support for the bill and 
urged his fellow members to support it as well. He also entered the attached 
support letter from President Riccobono into the record.

 

Please continue to contact your senators and representatives and urge them to 
cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability Act if they have not already done 
so. A complete list of Senate and House cosponsors can be found below.

 

When you call or email your senators or representative you might say something 
like:

 

"Hello, my name is [YOUR NAME], and I am a constituent of 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME]. I live in [CITY, STATE]. COVID-19 has impacted 
employment and educational opportunities for blind Americans. In a time of 
physical distancing, self-sufficiency is also paramount. I urge 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME] to cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability 
Act [H.R. 2086 in the House/S. 815 in the Senate]. This bill creates a 
refundable tax credit in the amount of $2,000 to offset the cost of expensive 
access technology, such as Braille embossers, Braille notetakers, and screen 
reading software. In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic a bill that will help 
increase employment opportunities, educational opportunities, 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark]

Aw'w'w'w, Lora, I'm so sorry for your sad loss. I 
know we all appreciate that you  are doing your best.


Karen



At 11:06 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
Pauline and All, I really goofed up, that place 
is in Madison, Wisconsin. I’ve had my mind on 
several other things today. I also lost my 
younger brother, Dan, who took his own life in 
May.  So I apologize if I get a little batty 
once in a while. I’ll go and get that info. In 
fact, I copied the whole page, so I’ll just 
send it up here and you can look at it. The most 
recent book I got from them in March is a little 
book called Simply Better Easy Potlucks. I’ll 
be right back and just copy that big page. Lora 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Pauline 
Smith via Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 
11, 2020 1:52 PM To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Pauline Smith 
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks Good 
Afternoon, I have not heard of this Indiana 
resource Lora mentioned. Could you post contact 
information for them, please?  You may not be 
getting materials from them due to what's going 
on right now.  I have heard from several 
correspondents that their libraries have 
temporarily stopped sending out braille 
materials due to the pandemic. One of the places 
that sends out monthly devotionals has done 
this. On another subject, I am with Lora as far 
as UEB. I can read it but don't like it.  I 
wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I 
hadn't had the possibility of needing to teach 
it. Of course, I don't have to worry about that 
right now. Pauline On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via 
Cookinginthedark  
wrote: > I can read the UEB, but don’t really 
have to like it, haha. > Hey, have any of you 
guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from 
the > Braille Library and Transcribing Service 
in Indianapolis, Indiana? > I just started 
getting them somewherearound a year and a half 
ago. I think I > had about 8 books, but have not 
received one for a couple months. > I also get 
Seeing It Our Way Magazine. > > > > Sent from 
Mail for Windows 10 > > From: meward1954--- via 
Cookinginthedark > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
1:19 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > 
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [CnD] 
old braille cookbooks > > Yes, they would have 
to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have 
weeks and > weeks of back-translator fun.  It 
would probably be easier to just retype > 
them. > > > > -Original Message- > From: 
Cookinginthedark 
 On 
Behalf Of > lorischarff--- via 
Cookinginthedark > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
10:51 AM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > 
Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com > Subject: [CnD] old 
braille cookbooks > > I think for NLS to reissue 
the books they would have to be put into 
UEB. > > > > I have a braille copy of "THE 
BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF > 
THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, 
Braille Editor American > Printing House for the 
Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School 
for > the Blind. It says it was embossed in 
1948. This book is only one volume. It > 
describes the labels in the introduction but, 
the book I have does not have > any remaining. 
It goes on to say that you can purchase labels 
from APH or > "the housewife can make her own 
with a slate and > > Stiless and gummb lables 
from the dime store. > > Looked to see if I 
could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does 
not seem > to be in the index with that 
name. > > Lori > > and > > > > -- > This email 
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark]

Awww, I don't even know what condition those poor 
books are in anymore. Makes me so sad, because my 
Bibles are out there, too. *sigh*


Karen



At 10:26 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
Oh, wow, I have a coffee can with a tight 
fitting lid.  I pour the 4 or 5 pound can into 
the can.  If it doesn’t run out, I put one of 
those bread ties really tight on the sugar bag 
just until it goes down enough for the rest to 
fit. I’d never want the possibility of a 
roach, an ant, a fly or any other kind of a bug 
when I can’t see or hear them there.  Yucky! 
Well, if that volume 3 ever crawls out of the 
shed, let me know, I could probably do it all 
within a week or so, unless I get really busy 
fast. I must have had Volumes 1 and 2 about 20 
years and they are still on one of the shelves 
in my basement. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 
From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark Sent: 
Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:49 PM To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Karen Delzer 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the 
blind there certainly was an Evelyn Lee braille 
cookbook, and it had three volumes. 
Unfortunately, it is out in our shed, as we now 
live in a home that is too small for a 
bookshelf. Can you imagine? Sooo frustrating! 
Anyway, some of the recipes are good. But there 
is a tip in there I think is just nuts! Well, 
many may be, but this one, if you have ants, put 
your sugar bowl on a paper plate and sprinkle 
ant powder onto the plate so the ants won't get 
into the sugar. Well, ants literally send me 
screaming, so I can't deal. But, really??? Put 
ant poison onto a paper plate that you will 
touch as you get into the sugar bowl? Um, I 
don't think so! Karen At 07:36 AM 7/11/2020, you 
wrote: >I’ll tell you about one I would 
like to find. >Some time around the early 
1990’s I think it >was, a gentleman came to 
my house and said he >was a retired water man 
and that he remembered >seeing me when he came 
to read the water >meter.  He said he and his 
wife were moving and >that his sister had passed 
away and he had some >braille cookbooks. Well, I 
got pretty excited of >course.  One of them was 
the 1948 book called >The Braille 
Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but >I like 
it. The other 2 volumes are the first 2 >volumes 
of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s >Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes 
because the >contents of Volumes 2 and 3 are in 
Volume 1. But >there was no Volume 3.  I think 
the book came >out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, >I would love to get a copy 
so I could copy it. >I’d just transcribe it 
into my computer and >just give it back. Maybe 
some library somewhere >has it.  I asked about 
it through my library and >no one knows anything 
about it. I was going >through a collection of 
recipes I got ahold of >from a shared folder a 
few years ago, and I got >Evelyn Lee’s 
Fried Chicken. It does sound >good, but wherever 
they got that recipe, there >must be her braille 
book.  I would appreciate >any help in at least 
borrowing a copy of that >Volume 3. Lora and 
Leader Dog Firefly Sent from >Mail for Windows 
10 From: meward1954--- via >Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 >10:21 AM To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: >meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] 
More >books written for the blind There was 
also >Cooking with Feeling by Deborah 
DeBord.  This is >at National Braille Press, if 
they still have >it.  The publication date is 
1997, so it is a >bit more up to date, though 
far from >recent.  There are five soft-cover 
Braille >volumes.  The book is actually a 
combination of >two different books, a 
three-part series called >Cooking with Feeling 
Recipes and a two-part one >called Cooking with 
Feeling >Techniques.  Techniques are 
well-described.  I >believe she also had a bread 
machine book.  I >don't know if there are 
accessible bread >machines now.  I don't have 
one because I think >that a machine would take 
all the fun out of >making bread.  What would be 
the point, if I >couldn't knead out all my 
frustrations?  There >is another Braille Book on 
BARD, A leaf from our >table / BRA10152 Porter, 
Marie; Catholic Guild. >2 volumes. A production 
of Catholic Guild. This >book was put together 
by a group of blind >women.  I believe that 
these women all cooked >and shared these recipes 
at meetings.  They had >several other books back 
in the 1970s.  The book >on making Bread, which 
was just called, Bread, >is the one I used as a 
primer for my own >learning how to make 
bread.  They also had a >salad and dessert 
book.  Maybe there were others >as well, but the 
only one I had was the one on >bread.  So many 
of the cookbooks I have seen by >blind people's 
groups were rather obviously >copied from 
somewhere else.  I've seen some >highly visual 
descriptions even in Cooking in >the Dark 
cookbooks, though recipes I know are >Dale's are 
very blind-friendly.  So just because >it was 
put out by an ACB 

Re: [CnD] Regarding the Braille Cookbook and NLS

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

That’s cool.  I will check to make sure I have it or go get it.  That brings 
back memories and it’s down the basement somewhere.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:29 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Jeanne Fike
Subject: [CnD] Regarding the Braille Cookbook and NLS

Hi everyone,
I just did a search on BARD and found "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED
FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, and  Mrs. Paul J. Langan
It is available as a zipped braille download, catalog number br00639.
   Jeanne

describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
"the housewife can make her own with a slate and
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[CnD] Regarding the Braille Cookbook and NLS

[Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark]

Hi everyone,
I just did a search on BARD and found "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED
FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, and  Mrs. Paul J. Langan
It is available as a zipped braille download, catalog number br00639.
   Jeanne

describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
"the housewife can make her own with a slate and
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Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Hi Pauline,\

You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille books 
out.
I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in California 
over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not something coming back 
to them if you are borrowing books as you would at the Library.
They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was donated 
to them from someone.
I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so good.

They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t finish 
with it right away.
I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about getting 
them back to them on time.
I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very soon.
Lora


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Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline


On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
> had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
> weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
> them.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
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> Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.
>
>
>
> I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
> THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
> Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
> the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
> describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
> any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
> "the housewife can make her own with a slate and
>
> Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.
>
> Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
> to be in the index with that name.
>
> Lori
>
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>
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Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Seeing It Our Way is a monthly magazine put out by Horizons For The Blind in 
Crystal Lake, Illinois.
It has a recipe column by Kathy Claus and they have knitting and crochet 
patterns, which I can’t knit or crochet a note, haha.
It is 30 dollars a year.  I’ll have to renew by September.  Sometimes, you 
kinda get 13 in a row, but not sure all the time.
They were pretty late during the past year, but unfortunately, the director 
passed from cancer in May.
They also sell braillebooks, pans and lots of neat stuff in their Gadget 
Gallery.
A lot of the braille books would interest me but are high.
They have a microwave corn popper that’s about 9 or 10 bucks.
Horizona For The Blind, Inc.
125 Erick St. A103
Crystal Lake, IL 60014
815-444-8800
 

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Don't know about Seeing it Our Way or the place your referring to in Indiana.


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Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the Braille 
Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I 
had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



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Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and 
weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype them. 
 



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Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.

 

I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE 
BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American Printing House 
for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for the Blind. It says 
it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It describes the labels 
in the introduction but, the book I have does not have any remaining. It goes 
on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or "the housewife can make her 
own with a slate and

Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.

Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem to 
be in the index with that name.

Lori

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Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Braille Library And Transcribing Services
Madison, WI
 608-233-0222



Cookbooks
All titles in UEB unless notated with an "e" after the number
 All titles with "NFS" are Not For Sale 

(Last Updated 11/8/2019)

Num Title Author Vols Pgs. Description 

7238 101 Best Super Foods Hornick, Betsy 3 477 The 101 best super foods are 
discussed, including their benefits, selection and storage preparation, serving 
tips and recipes. 
428e NFS 133 Bar Cookie Recipes from the Land of Wheat Peavey Company 2   King 
Midas Flour recipes for bar cookies. 
1222e NFS 300 Sensational Salads Berry, Lucinda Hollace 3 155 Sensational 
salads provides suggestions for a variety of healthy salads. 
1888e 50 Fast and Fabulous Recipes - Pasta 'n More   1 80 Directions for use of 
Pasta 'n More appliance along with 50 recipes. 
1697e NFS All About Burgers   1 59 Hamburger cookbook. Compiled by Helping 
Hands for the Blind. 
957e All American Muffins Ladies Home Journal Magazine 1 47 One muffin recipe 
to represent each state.  Excerpted from Ladies Home Journal. 
2815e Alpha-Bakery Gold Medal 1 57 Recipe for each letter of the alphabet that 
children and parents can make together. Companion book. 
1981e NFS Alum-Yum I.S.L.I. Alumni Association 1 67 A collection of recipes 
from the alumni and friends of the I.S.L.I.  
906e NFS America's Bake-Off Cookbook Pillsbury Classic  3 255 Breads, coffee 
cakes, snacks, main dishes, desserts, special occasion, ethnic and low-cost 
ingredient recipes. 
1254e NFS America's Bake-Off Cookbook Pillsbury Classics No. 2 F06770 3   
Pillsbury's 31st Bake-off Recipes. 
7019e NFS Ask Your Neighbor Favorite Recipes Gaddy, Charles 2 319 A collection 
of recipes gathered from the editor's popular radio program in North Carolina, 
including helpful household hints. 
1416e NFS Back of the Box Gourmet McLaughlin, Michael 3 197 A selection of 
favorite back of the box recipes. 
1495e NFS Baker's Chocolate and Coconut General Foods Corporation 1 60   
7256e NFS Baker's Easiest-Ever Chocolate Recipes Kraft Foods Inc. 1   Chocolate 
recipes. 
7257e NFS Baking Illustrated Cook's Illustrated Magazine 2   Favorite cookies 
and brownies. 
1721e Basic Carbohydrate Counting American Dietetic Association and American 
Diabetic Association 1 20 Guide to healthier eating for diabetics by counting 
carbohydrates. 
1904e Bean Cookbook, The Northwest Bean Growers Assn 2 250 Recipes for bean 
dishes. 
7056e NFS Bertolli Mediterranean Menu Bertolli Nutrition Center 1 74 Menus from 
the Mediterranean cuisine. 
1871e NFS Best Ever Fryer Cookbook, The   2 226 This cookbook delves into the 
hows and whys of deep-frying: the best oils to use, correct temperatures and 
frying times, technical tips for using your deep fryer, and safety guidelines. 
1493e Best of Bisquick: The Best Impossible Pies, The Betty Crocker 1 26 
Recipes for both main dish and dessert pies which make their own crusts. 
1701e NFS Best of Georgia Cookbook, The   2 250   
1267e NFS Best of the Zucchini Recipes Cookbook, The Dandar, Helen 3 219 Over 
400 "blue ribbon" recipes from around the country, soups to desserts. 
1224e Best Recipes From the Backs of Boxes, Bottles, Cans and Jars Dyer, Celia 
5 339 These are the recipes you meant to clip and save -- the ones on that jar 
label, those cans, on the back of the box. 
1666e Best Recipes of Wisconsin Inns and Restaurants Guthrie, Margaret E. 2 248 
A cookbook of wonderfully innovate recipes, a great food lover's guide and a 
resource for planning day trips and vacation jaunts around the state. 
1200e NFS Better Homes & Gardens New Cookbook Banton Books 3 164 Featuring over 
1200 recipes--600 of them brand new--making this cookbook even more 
indispensable than ever. 
1241e NFS Better Homes & Gardens Quick & Easy Recipes Better Homes & Gardens 
Test Kitchens 2 106   
2521e NFS Better Homes and Gardens New Junior Cookbook Meredith Corporation 3   
Recipes for children/juniors for appetizers through desserts using Kraft food 
products. 
7020e NFS Better Homes and Gardens Vegetable Cookbook Better Homes and Gardens 
3 445 Explicit instruction for a variety of uses of 20 kinds of fresh or frozen 
vegetables. Includes soups and salads, general instructions for canning and 
freezing, and charts on seasoning, cooking and nutritional values. 
1602e NFS Betty Crocker and Gold Medal General Mills 2 217   
7016e Betty Crocker Chicken and Fish Betty Crocker 2 212 Summer recipes. 
Includes a section of dinners for two. 
7084e Betty Crocker Diabetes Cookbook   5 648 This book includes not only 
diabetic recipes, but medical and nutritional information to help develop a 
healthy eating plan. 
7112e Betty Crocker Gluten-Free Cooking   4 526 A collection of recipes that 
are safe for celiacs (and others avoiding gluten). Includes more than 150 
delicious gluten-free recipes, including contributions from popular gluten-free 
bloggers. 
1024e NFS Betty Crocker Potatoes General Mills 1 31 Potato recipes for making 
salads, soups, 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark]

Don't know about Seeing it Our Way or the place your referring to in Indiana.


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Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the Braille 
Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I 
had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



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Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and 
weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype them. 
 



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Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.

 

I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE 
BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American Printing House 
for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for the Blind. It says 
it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It describes the labels 
in the introduction but, the book I have does not have any remaining. It goes 
on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or "the housewife can make her 
own with a slate and

Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.

Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem to 
be in the index with that name.

Lori

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Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark]

Hello Again,

A Leaf From Our Table is up on BARD. I downloaded it several years ago
when I had access to an old notetaker that was donated to the place
where I used to teach. BARD also has braille and audio versions of
Cooking Without Looking. I used to own a copy of this book.  It got
damaged at the house I grew up in.

Pauline


On 7/11/20, lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.
>
>
>
> I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
> THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
> Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
> the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume.
> It
> describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
> any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
> "the housewife can make her own with a slate and
>
> Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.
>
> Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not
> seem
> to be in the index with that name.
>
> Lori
>
> and
>
>
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Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Pauline and All,
I really goofed up, that place is in Madison, Wisconsin.
I’ve had my mind on several other things today.
I also lost my younger brother, Dan, who took his own life in May.  So I 
apologize if I get a little batty once in a while.
I’ll go and get that info.
In fact, I copied the whole page, so I’ll just send it up here and you can look 
at it.
 The most recent book I got from them in March is a little book called Simply 
Better Easy Potlucks.
I’ll be right back and just copy that big page.
Lora


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Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline


On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
> had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
> weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
> them.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
> Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.
>
>
>
> I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
> THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
> Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
> the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
> describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
> any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
> "the housewife can make her own with a slate and
>
> Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.
>
> Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
> to be in the index with that name.
>
> Lori
>
> and
>
>
>
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Anna Galassi via Cookinginthedark]

Hi, I would give anything to have Food At Your Fingertips. I got some good 
recipes out of there.

Anna

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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never 
got that one
I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan 
School For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something like 
that.  She came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or somewhere.

She was older, but very kind and likeable.
I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way 
to at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called A 
Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice Megamall 
now, but they are not the one that was.
There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been either 
meat loaf or Meatloaf.

Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
Lora and Firefly

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I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on 
that book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and 
nutrition have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good 
recipes and tips and for some of us, memories.




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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as 
in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was 
actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time 
ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.


Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:



I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately,
it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried
when I had to throw it out.
But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says
visually handicapped instead of blind.
But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
Lora and Firefly


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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
break.

We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
class.

It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably
took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and
worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant 
of us.

For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide
what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us
what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what
she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.
The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd
need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us
that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and
prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys
prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have
laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when she came
back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really didn't
have to use all the ice cream for your milk shakes".  All in 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Anna Galassi via Cookinginthedark]

The copy I saw was hard covered and in 1 volume.
Anna

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From: Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark

Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 11:07 AM
To: Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Cc: Carol Ashland
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I used to own "Food At Your Fingertips." It came in a three-ring notebook, 
assuming that one would add recipes to it. I loaned it to a friend, whose 
father sent it to the library, but didn't tell me until way later. I was not 
pleased!


Carol Ashland
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Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Jul 11, 2020 7:43 AM, Lora Leggett via 
Cookinginthedark  wrote:


I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never 
got that one
I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan 
School For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something 
like that.  She came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or 
somewhere.

She was older, but very kind and likeable.
I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way 
to at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called 
A Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice 
Megamall now, but they are not the one that was.
There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been 
either meat loaf or Meatloaf.

Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
Lora and Firefly

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I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on 
that book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and 
nutrition have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good 
recipes and tips and for some of us, memories.


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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
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Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking 
as in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was 
actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time 
ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.


Marie

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:


> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately,
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
> break.

> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
> class.

> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very 
> tolerant of us.

> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what
> she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.
> The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd
> need.  The next day when we came to class, 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark]

Good Afternoon,

I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could you
post contact information for them, please?  You may not be getting
materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I have heard
from several correspondents that their libraries have temporarily
stopped sending out braille materials due to the pandemic. One of the
places that sends out monthly devotionals has done this.

On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it but
don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I hadn't
had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I don't have to
worry about that right now.

Pauline


On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the
> Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I
> had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>
>
>
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> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
> weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
> them.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
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> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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> Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>
> I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.
>
>
>
> I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
> THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
> Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
> the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
> describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
> any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
> "the housewife can make her own with a slate and
>
> Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.
>
> Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
> to be in the index with that name.
>
> Lori
>
> and
>
>
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

No, I have never noticed this one, will check it out.


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I hated onions as a child.  But when I moved out on my own, finally, and had to 
cook, I became the biggest onion fan on the planet.

Anybody ever tried roasting onions?  I have ben enjoying the Roasted Vegetable 
Cookbook, though it's not necessarily a book for us blind people.  The roasted 
vegetable / BR17845
 Chesman, Andrea. 2 volumes. A production of the National Library Service for 
the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library of Congress. 
  

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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:05 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, I love onions, woo hoo!  That must have been fun, and of course, if you are 
making it at home, you could cut down or leave them out.


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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:57 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember that, as a day camp counselor, we used to have our campers bring the 
ingredients for that big boy thing, though we called it something else, and we 
helped them get the food all packed up and we put it onto the campfire to cook. 
It was great, though too much onion for me. :)

Karen

At 08:51 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used to have a copy of it at 
>the Texas School for the Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the 
>goal of the agency was to help the blind person become a homemaker so 
>that others in the house would not have to stay home and take care of 
>them.  Teachers would spend long times in their homes, I think they may 
>have even stayed there back then.  These days, it's pretty much "stop 
>feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  But if you can't manage your 
>diabetes without being able to cook it's your fault."  I know this 
>because I was a teacher, and that's not how I taught, smirk.  I copied 
>things out of that book myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
>don't know where the files went.  I remember a recipe called Big Boy.  
>You got out some foil, made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, 
>and whatever vegetables, and put them around the burger on the foil.  
>You made a packet out of the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak 
>out, and baked it for I don't remember how long.  I made it and it was 
>good, though a bit greasy.  Not exactly foodie fare, but that was over 
>50 years ago.  And there were different nutritional standards and they 
>didn't have all these small electrical devices then that we have now.  
>I don't know where to get a copy.  I wonder if NLS would be interested 
>in dredging up and reissuing some of these old Braille cookbooks if 
>there was enough demand.  It's really our history.  -Original 
>Message-
>From: Cookinginthedark
> On Behalf Of Lora Leggett via 
>Cookinginthedark
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Lora Leggett  
>Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind I’ll tell you 
>about one I would like to find. Some time around the early 1990’s I 
>think it was, a gentleman came to my house and said he was a retired 
>water man and that he remembered seeing me when he came to read the 
>water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his sister 
>had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
>Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book 
>called The Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
>The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New 
>Evelyn Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents 
>of Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But there was no Volume 3.  I think 
>the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, I would 
>love to get a copy so I could copy it.
>I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back. Maybe 
>some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
>no one knows anything about it. I was going through a collection of 
>recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
>Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound good, but wherever they got 
>that recipe, there must be her braille book.  I would appreciate any 
>help in at least borrowing a copy of that Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog 
>Firefly Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020
>10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
>meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the 
>blind There was 

Re: [CnD] I have A leaf from our table

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Yes, I remember because at the convention in Vegas, you could either get the 
disc or they probably would have shipped it to my house.  I just wanted to get 
it right away.
At least it is all there.
I had a nice friend send me the braille edition of that book by Christine Ha.
I did download the talking book version from BARD.  It was read by Carrie, the 
same lady who read Cooking Without Looking in 1980 but before she was married.
Anyway, there is no glossary, or I mean, she doesn’t spell anything for you 
that I can tell.
So, now that this friend sent me her braille book, if it’s complete, at least I 
will know how she spells different stuff.
This will sound weird, but this same friend decided he needs to down size.  He 
sent me a slow cooker book that was put out by NBP.  Well, I later found out 
that the book is really 7 volumes on Bard.
There are 3 more volumes for vegetables and stuff.  He sent me 4 volumes 
disguised as the whole books.
I asked another friend who well, works for NBP.  He said, yes, they do or have 
released part of a book and then come out with the rest of it later.
I thought, what?  But it was true.
I just downloaded the whole thing from BARD.  How can you release a book when 
it is half of a book?  Okay!


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The No Measure cookbook was read by a human being.

Marie


On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 10:00 AM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark <
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I have it too, in my computer.  I can’t remember if I got it from BARD or
> where.  I also bought the computer version of The No Measure Cookbook.  I
> think it is actually audio that is read to you.  I didn’t want to have
> braille books taking too much room when I also had to pack Firefly’s food
> to take back to Chicago and then go home from there after the convention
> was out in Vegas.
> I’ve never been anywhere that far away, so I got it on a disc and copied
> it in the computer.
> I forget if it is someone speaking or the computer.
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 11:58 AM
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> Subject: [CnD] I have A leaf from our table
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have A leaf from our table in braille.
>
> Lori
>
>
>
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[meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark]

I hated onions as a child.  But when I moved out on my own, finally, and had to 
cook, I became the biggest onion fan on the planet.

Anybody ever tried roasting onions?  I have ben enjoying the Roasted Vegetable 
Cookbook, though it's not necessarily a book for us blind people.  The roasted 
vegetable / BR17845
 Chesman, Andrea. 2 volumes. A production of the National Library Service for 
the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library of Congress. 
  

-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:05 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, I love onions, woo hoo!  That must have been fun, and of course, if you are 
making it at home, you could cut down or leave them out.


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From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:57 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember that, as a day camp counselor, we used to have our campers bring the 
ingredients for that big boy thing, though we called it something else, and we 
helped them get the food all packed up and we put it onto the campfire to cook. 
It was great, though too much onion for me. :)

Karen

At 08:51 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used to have a copy of it at 
>the Texas School for the Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the 
>goal of the agency was to help the blind person become a homemaker so 
>that others in the house would not have to stay home and take care of 
>them.  Teachers would spend long times in their homes, I think they may 
>have even stayed there back then.  These days, it's pretty much "stop 
>feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  But if you can't manage your 
>diabetes without being able to cook it's your fault."  I know this 
>because I was a teacher, and that's not how I taught, smirk.  I copied 
>things out of that book myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
>don't know where the files went.  I remember a recipe called Big Boy.  
>You got out some foil, made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, 
>and whatever vegetables, and put them around the burger on the foil.  
>You made a packet out of the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak 
>out, and baked it for I don't remember how long.  I made it and it was 
>good, though a bit greasy.  Not exactly foodie fare, but that was over 
>50 years ago.  And there were different nutritional standards and they 
>didn't have all these small electrical devices then that we have now.  
>I don't know where to get a copy.  I wonder if NLS would be interested 
>in dredging up and reissuing some of these old Braille cookbooks if 
>there was enough demand.  It's really our history.  -Original 
>Message-
>From: Cookinginthedark
> On Behalf Of Lora Leggett via 
>Cookinginthedark
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Lora Leggett  
>Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind I’ll tell you 
>about one I would like to find. Some time around the early 1990’s I 
>think it was, a gentleman came to my house and said he was a retired 
>water man and that he remembered seeing me when he came to read the 
>water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his sister 
>had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
>Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book 
>called The Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
>The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New 
>Evelyn Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents 
>of Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But there was no Volume 3.  I think 
>the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, I would 
>love to get a copy so I could copy it.
>I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back. Maybe 
>some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
>no one knows anything about it. I was going through a collection of 
>recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
>Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound good, but wherever they got 
>that recipe, there must be her braille book.  I would appreciate any 
>help in at least borrowing a copy of that Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog 
>Firefly Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020
>10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
>meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the 
>blind There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
>at National Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date 
>is 1997, so it is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There 
>are five soft-cover Braille volumes.  The book is actually a 
>combination 

Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from the Braille 
Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half ago. I think I 
had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple months.
I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.



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Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
them.  



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Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.

 

I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
"the housewife can make her own with a slate and

Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.

Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
to be in the index with that name.

Lori

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Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

[meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark]

Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have weeks and
weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be easier to just retype
them.  



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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.

 

I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille Editor American
Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. Langan Kentucky School for
the Blind. It says it was embossed in 1948. This book is only one volume. It
describes the labels in the introduction but, the book I have does not have
any remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from APH or
"the housewife can make her own with a slate and

Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.

Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it does not seem
to be in the index with that name.

Lori

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Re: [CnD] I have A leaf from our table

[meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark]

I don't know why I didn't order A Leaf From Our Table.  I did get it from
BARD.  But I have the Bread book.  Both volumes have lost their covers and
there are stains all over the place, especially the first volume, which is
mostly about yeast breads.  

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Another oldie but goodie.  I downloaded that one from Bard, and have it on
my braille display.  Many good old recipes in it.  I highly recommend it to
anyone.  The people who produced it are all gone now.  But these books are a
fine legacy.

Marie


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> Hi all,
>
> I have A leaf from our table in braille.
>
> Lori
>
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, wow, I have a coffee can with a tight fitting lid.  I pour the 4 or 5 pound 
can into the can.  If it doesn’t run out, I put one of those bread ties really 
tight on the sugar bag just until it goes down enough for the rest to fit.
I’d never want the possibility of a roach, an ant, a fly or any other kind of a 
bug when I can’t see or hear them there.  Yucky!
Well, if that volume 3 ever crawls out of the shed, let me know, I could 
probably do it all within a week or so, unless I get really busy fast.
I must have had Volumes 1 and 2 about 20 years and they are still on one of the 
shelves in my basement.


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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:49 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

there certainly was an Evelyn Lee braille 
cookbook, and it had three volumes. 
Unfortunately, it is out in our shed, as we now 
live in a home that is too small for a bookshelf. 
Can you imagine? Sooo frustrating! Anyway, some 
of the recipes are good. But there is a tip in 
there I think is just nuts! Well, many may be, 
but this one, if you have ants, put your sugar 
bowl on a paper plate and sprinkle ant powder 
onto the plate so the ants won't get into the 
sugar. Well, ants literally send me screaming, so 
I can't deal. But, really??? Put ant poison onto 
a paper plate that you will touch as you get into 
the sugar bowl? Um, I don't think so!

Karen




At 07:36 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I’ll tell you about one I would like to find. 
>Some time around the early 1990’s I think it 
>was, a gentleman came to my house and said he 
>was a retired water man and that he remembered 
>seeing me when he came to read the water 
>meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and 
>that his sister had passed away and he had some 
>braille cookbooks. Well, I got pretty excited of 
>course.  One of them was the 1948 book called 
>The Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but 
>I like it. The other 2 volumes are the first 2 
>volumes of a book called the New Evelyn Lee’s 
>Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the 
>contents of Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But 
>there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came 
>out in 1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, 
>I would love to get a copy so I could copy it. 
>I’d just transcribe it into my computer and 
>just give it back. Maybe some library somewhere 
>has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
>no one knows anything about it. I was going 
>through a collection of recipes I got ahold of 
>from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
>Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound 
>good, but wherever they got that recipe, there 
>must be her braille book.  I would appreciate 
>any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
>Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog Firefly Sent from 
>Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
>10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
>meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
>books written for the blind There was also 
>Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
>at National Braille Press, if they still have 
>it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
>bit more up to date, though far from 
>recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
>volumes.  The book is actually a combination of 
>two different books, a three-part series called 
>Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one 
>called Cooking with Feeling 
>Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I 
>believe she also had a bread machine book.  I 
>don't know if there are accessible bread 
>machines now.  I don't have one because I think 
>that a machine would take all the fun out of 
>making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
>couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  There 
>is another Braille Book on BARD, A leaf from our 
>table / BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 
>2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild. This 
>book was put together by a group of blind 
>women.  I believe that these women all cooked 
>and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had 
>several other books back in the 1970s.  The book 
>on making Bread, which was just called, Bread, 
>is the one I used as a primer for my own 
>learning how to make bread.  They also had a 
>salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others 
>as well, but the only one I had was the one on 
>bread.  So many of the cookbooks I have seen by 
>blind people's groups were rather obviously 
>copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some 
>highly visual descriptions even in Cooking in 
>the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know are 
>Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because 
>it was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate 
>doesn't mean that all the recipes have been 
>test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody 
>asks around for recipes and people just copy 
>them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, 
>but 

Re: [CnD] I have A leaf from our table

[Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark]

The No Measure cookbook was read by a human being.

Marie


On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 10:00 AM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark <
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I have it too, in my computer.  I can’t remember if I got it from BARD or
> where.  I also bought the computer version of The No Measure Cookbook.  I
> think it is actually audio that is read to you.  I didn’t want to have
> braille books taking too much room when I also had to pack Firefly’s food
> to take back to Chicago and then go home from there after the convention
> was out in Vegas.
> I’ve never been anywhere that far away, so I got it on a disc and copied
> it in the computer.
> I forget if it is someone speaking or the computer.
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 11:58 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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> Subject: [CnD] I have A leaf from our table
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have A leaf from our table in braille.
>
> Lori
>
>
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark]

I used to own "Food At Your Fingertips." It came in a three-ring notebook, 
assuming that one would add recipes to it. I loaned it to a friend, whose 
father sent it to the library, but didn't tell me until way later. I was not 
pleased! 

Carol Ashland
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Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Jul 11, 2020 7:43 AM, Lora Leggett via 
Cookinginthedark  wrote:
>
> I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never 
> got that one
> I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan 
> School For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something like 
> that.  She came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or somewhere.
> She was older, but very kind and likeable.
> I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way to 
> at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
> I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called A 
> Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice Megamall 
> now, but they are not the one that was.
> There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been either 
> meat loaf or Meatloaf.
> Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
> Lora and Firefly
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:49 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on that 
> book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and nutrition 
> have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good recipes and 
> tips and for some of us, memories.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
> Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as 
> in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was 
> actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time 
> ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.
>
> Marie
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
> cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>
> > I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, 
> > it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried 
> > when I had to throw it out.
> > But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> > The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from 
> > about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says 
> > visually handicapped instead of blind.
> > But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> > Lora and Firefly
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> > From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> > Cc: Lee Mounger
> > Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
> >
> > Greetings All,
> >
> >
> > While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
> > post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
> > at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
> > other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
> > our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
> > shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> > We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
> > together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
> > Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
> > written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
> > was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
> > have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
> > class.
> > It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males 
> > much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was 
> > hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably 
> > took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and 
> > worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant 
> > of us.
> > For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide 
> > what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us 
> > what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what 
> > she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  
> > The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd 
> > need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us 
> > that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Oh, I love onions, woo hoo!  That must have been fun, and of course, if you are 
making it at home, you could cut down or leave them out.


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From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:57 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember that, as a day camp counselor, we used 
to have our campers bring the ingredients for 
that big boy thing, though we called it something 
else, and we helped them get the food all packed 
up and we put it onto the campfire to cook. It 
was great, though too much onion for me. :)

Karen

At 08:51 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used 
>to have a copy of it at the Texas School for the 
>Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the 
>goal of the agency was to help the blind person 
>become a homemaker so that others in the house 
>would not have to stay home and take care of 
>them.  Teachers would spend long times in their 
>homes, I think they may have even stayed there 
>back then.  These days, it's pretty much "stop 
>feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  But 
>if you can't manage your diabetes without being 
>able to cook it's your fault."  I know this 
>because I was a teacher, and that's not how I 
>taught, smirk.  I copied things out of that book 
>myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
>don't know where the files went.  I remember a 
>recipe called Big Boy.  You got out some foil, 
>made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, 
>and whatever vegetables, and put them around the 
>burger on the foil.  You made a packet out of 
>the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak 
>out, and baked it for I don't remember how 
>long.  I made it and it was good, though a bit 
>greasy.  Not exactly foodie fare, but that was 
>over 50 years ago.  And there were different 
>nutritional standards and they didn't have all 
>these small electrical devices then that we have 
>now.  I don't know where to get a copy.  I 
>wonder if NLS would be interested in dredging up 
>and reissuing some of these old Braille 
>cookbooks if there was enough demand.  It's 
>really our history.  -Original Message- 
>From: Cookinginthedark 
> On 
>Behalf Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Lora Leggett 
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
>books written for the blind I’ll tell you 
>about one I would like to find. Some time around 
>the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman 
>came to my house and said he was a retired water 
>man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
>came to read the water meter.  He said he and 
>his wife were moving and that his sister had 
>passed away and he had some braille cookbooks. 
>Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of 
>them was the 1948 book called The Braille 
>Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it. 
>The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a 
>book called the New Evelyn Lee’s Cookbook.  It 
>really has 3 volumes because the contents of 
>Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But there was 
>no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 
>1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, I 
>would love to get a copy so I could copy it. 
>I’d just transcribe it into my computer and 
>just give it back. Maybe some library somewhere 
>has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
>no one knows anything about it. I was going 
>through a collection of recipes I got ahold of 
>from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
>Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound 
>good, but wherever they got that recipe, there 
>must be her braille book.  I would appreciate 
>any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
>Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog Firefly Sent from 
>Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
>10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
>meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
>books written for the blind There was also 
>Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
>at National Braille Press, if they still have 
>it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
>bit more up to date, though far from 
>recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
>volumes.  The book is actually a combination of 
>two different books, a three-part series called 
>Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one 
>called Cooking with Feeling 
>Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I 
>believe she also had a bread machine book.  I 
>don't know if there are accessible bread 
>machines now.  I don't have one because I think 
>that a machine would take all the fun out of 
>making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
>couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  There 
>is another Braille Book on BARD, A leaf from our 
>table / BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 
>2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild. This 
>book was put together by a 

Re: [CnD] I have A leaf from our table

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

I have it too, in my computer.  I can’t remember if I got it from BARD or 
where.  I also bought the computer version of The No Measure Cookbook.  I think 
it is actually audio that is read to you.  I didn’t want to have braille books 
taking too much room when I also had to pack Firefly’s food to take back to 
Chicago and then go home from there after the convention was out in Vegas.
I’ve never been anywhere that far away, so I got it on a disc and copied it in 
the computer.
I forget if it is someone speaking or the computer.


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From: lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 11:58 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
Subject: [CnD] I have A leaf from our table

Hi all,

I have A leaf from our table in braille.

Lori

 



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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark]

I remember that, as a day camp counselor, we used 
to have our campers bring the ingredients for 
that big boy thing, though we called it something 
else, and we helped them get the food all packed 
up and we put it onto the campfire to cook. It 
was great, though too much onion for me. :)


Karen

At 08:51 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used 
to have a copy of it at the Texas School for the 
Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the 
goal of the agency was to help the blind person 
become a homemaker so that others in the house 
would not have to stay home and take care of 
them.  Teachers would spend long times in their 
homes, I think they may have even stayed there 
back then.  These days, it's pretty much "stop 
feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  But 
if you can't manage your diabetes without being 
able to cook it's your fault."  I know this 
because I was a teacher, and that's not how I 
taught, smirk.  I copied things out of that book 
myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
don't know where the files went.  I remember a 
recipe called Big Boy.  You got out some foil, 
made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, 
and whatever vegetables, and put them around the 
burger on the foil.  You made a packet out of 
the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak 
out, and baked it for I don't remember how 
long.  I made it and it was good, though a bit 
greasy.  Not exactly foodie fare, but that was 
over 50 years ago.  And there were different 
nutritional standards and they didn't have all 
these small electrical devices then that we have 
now.  I don't know where to get a copy.  I 
wonder if NLS would be interested in dredging up 
and reissuing some of these old Braille 
cookbooks if there was enough demand.  It's 
really our history.  -Original Message- 
From: Cookinginthedark 
 On 
Behalf Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Lora Leggett 
 Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
books written for the blind I’ll tell you 
about one I would like to find. Some time around 
the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman 
came to my house and said he was a retired water 
man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and 
his wife were moving and that his sister had 
passed away and he had some braille cookbooks. 
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of 
them was the 1948 book called The Braille 
Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it. 
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a 
book called the New Evelyn Lee’s Cookbook.  It 
really has 3 volumes because the contents of 
Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But there was 
no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 
1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, I 
would love to get a copy so I could copy it. 
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and 
just give it back. Maybe some library somewhere 
has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it. I was going 
through a collection of recipes I got ahold of 
from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound 
good, but wherever they got that recipe, there 
must be her braille book.  I would appreciate 
any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog Firefly Sent from 
Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
books written for the blind There was also 
Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
at National Braille Press, if they still have 
it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from 
recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of 
two different books, a three-part series called 
Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one 
called Cooking with Feeling 
Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I 
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I 
don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think 
that a machine would take all the fun out of 
making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  There 
is another Braille Book on BARD, A leaf from our 
table / BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 
2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild. This 
book was put together by a group of blind 
women.  I believe that these women all cooked 
and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had 
several other books back in the 1970s.  The book 
on making Bread, which was just called, Bread, 
is the one I used as a primer for my own 
learning how to make bread.  They also had a 
salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others 
as well, but the only one I had was the one on 
bread.  So many of the cookbooks I have seen by 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

Good going, Marie.  I have both versions from BARD but have never actually sat 
down and copied it.  Maybe I should before I get too old and decrepit, haha.  
I’m hitting 68 on August 24 so I think I better get cracking, haha.
Lora and Firefly
 

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From: Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
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The braille version of Cooking Without Looking has been around for a long
time.  However, I do not know if APH still reprints it.  I had a copy until
it was too worn out to read anymore, but I did type it into the computer a
long time ago and saved the text file.

Marie



On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark <
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> It was always only Braille.  Thanks for looking that up.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf
> Of
> Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
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> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Hi,
> The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
> ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to
> one's
> computer or a notetaker.
>Jeanne
>
> On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>  wrote:
> > There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at
> > National Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date
> > is 1997, so it is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.
> > There are five soft-cover Braille volumes.  The book is actually a
> > combination of two different books, a three-part series called Cooking
> > with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called Cooking with Feeling
> > Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she also had a
> > bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread
> > machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would
> > take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I
> > couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
> >
> > There is another Braille Book on BARD,  A leaf from our table /
> > BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of
> > Catholic Guild.
> >
> > This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that
> > these women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had
> > several other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread,
> > which was just called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own
> > learning how to make bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.
> > Maybe there were others as well, but the only one I had was the one on
> > bread.
> >
> > So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were
> > rather obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly
> > visual descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though
> > recipes I know are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it
> > was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the
> > recipes have been test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody asks
> > around for recipes and people just copy them out.  They may or may not
> > have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the
> > instructions.
> >
> > I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind
> > cooks.
> >
> >   -Original Message-
> > From: Cookinginthedark  On
> > Behalf Of gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
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> > What a hoot.
> > Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark]

there certainly was an Evelyn Lee braille 
cookbook, and it had three volumes. 
Unfortunately, it is out in our shed, as we now 
live in a home that is too small for a bookshelf. 
Can you imagine? Sooo frustrating! Anyway, some 
of the recipes are good. But there is a tip in 
there I think is just nuts! Well, many may be, 
but this one, if you have ants, put your sugar 
bowl on a paper plate and sprinkle ant powder 
onto the plate so the ants won't get into the 
sugar. Well, ants literally send me screaming, so 
I can't deal. But, really??? Put ant poison onto 
a paper plate that you will touch as you get into 
the sugar bowl? Um, I don't think so!


Karen




At 07:36 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
I’ll tell you about one I would like to find. 
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it 
was, a gentleman came to my house and said he 
was a retired water man and that he remembered 
seeing me when he came to read the water 
meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and 
that his sister had passed away and he had some 
braille cookbooks. Well, I got pretty excited of 
course.  One of them was the 1948 book called 
The Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but 
I like it. The other 2 volumes are the first 2 
volumes of a book called the New Evelyn Lee’s 
Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the 
contents of Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But 
there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came 
out in 1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, 
I would love to get a copy so I could copy it. 
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and 
just give it back. Maybe some library somewhere 
has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it. I was going 
through a collection of recipes I got ahold of 
from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound 
good, but wherever they got that recipe, there 
must be her braille book.  I would appreciate 
any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog Firefly Sent from 
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Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
books written for the blind There was also 
Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
at National Braille Press, if they still have 
it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from 
recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of 
two different books, a three-part series called 
Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one 
called Cooking with Feeling 
Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I 
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I 
don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think 
that a machine would take all the fun out of 
making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  There 
is another Braille Book on BARD, A leaf from our 
table / BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 
2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild. This 
book was put together by a group of blind 
women.  I believe that these women all cooked 
and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had 
several other books back in the 1970s.  The book 
on making Bread, which was just called, Bread, 
is the one I used as a primer for my own 
learning how to make bread.  They also had a 
salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others 
as well, but the only one I had was the one on 
bread.  So many of the cookbooks I have seen by 
blind people's groups were rather obviously 
copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some 
highly visual descriptions even in Cooking in 
the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know are 
Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because 
it was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate 
doesn't mean that all the recipes have been 
test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody 
asks around for recipes and people just copy 
them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, 
but they haven't necessarily adapted the 
instructions. I haven't seen any audio books on 
BARD written specifically for blind 
cooks.   -Original Message- From: 
Cookinginthedark 
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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM To: 
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books written for the blind What a hoot. Milk 
shake sounds good. 
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Re: [CnD] I have A leaf from our table

[Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark]

Another oldie but goodie.  I downloaded that one from Bard, and have it on
my braille display.  Many good old recipes in it.  I highly recommend it to
anyone.  The people who produced it are all gone now.  But these books are
a fine legacy.

Marie


On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:59 AM lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark <
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> Hi all,
>
> I have A leaf from our table in braille.
>
> Lori
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark]

The braille version of Cooking Without Looking has been around for a long
time.  However, I do not know if APH still reprints it.  I had a copy until
it was too worn out to read anymore, but I did type it into the computer a
long time ago and saved the text file.

Marie



On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark <
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> It was always only Braille.  Thanks for looking that up.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf
> Of
> Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:55 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Jeanne Fike 
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Hi,
> The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
> ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to
> one's
> computer or a notetaker.
>Jeanne
>
> On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>  wrote:
> > There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at
> > National Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date
> > is 1997, so it is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.
> > There are five soft-cover Braille volumes.  The book is actually a
> > combination of two different books, a three-part series called Cooking
> > with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called Cooking with Feeling
> > Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she also had a
> > bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread
> > machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would
> > take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I
> > couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
> >
> > There is another Braille Book on BARD,  A leaf from our table /
> > BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of
> > Catholic Guild.
> >
> > This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that
> > these women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had
> > several other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread,
> > which was just called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own
> > learning how to make bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.
> > Maybe there were others as well, but the only one I had was the one on
> > bread.
> >
> > So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were
> > rather obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly
> > visual descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though
> > recipes I know are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it
> > was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the
> > recipes have been test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody asks
> > around for recipes and people just copy them out.  They may or may not
> > have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the
> > instructions.
> >
> > I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind
> > cooks.
> >
> >   -Original Message-
> > From: Cookinginthedark  On
> > Behalf Of gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
> > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> > Cc: gail johnson 
> > Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
> >
> > What a hoot.
> > Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lois Swartz via Cookinginthedark]

I learned to cook with this book and Mrs Tipps as well! I sure liked that 
lady.

Lois

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I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on that 
book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and nutrition 
have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good recipes and 
tips and for some of us, memories.



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The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as in 
the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was actually 
read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time ago, don't 
know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately,
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It's about the same except it says
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
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> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
> class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of 
> us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what
> she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.
> The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd
> need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us
> that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and
> prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys
> prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have
> laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when she came
> back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really didn't
> have to use all the ice cream for your milk shakes".  All in all, she
> was a nice lady and her book is still useful and has pretty much stood the 
> test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking
> > without Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other
> > with the db starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just
> > looked.) When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read
> > for a Talking Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded
> > a copy of the Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it
> > to me at Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would
> > like to get them on to a sd card for my stream.
> > Happy cooking. :)
> > Jeanne
> >
> > On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
> >  wrote:
> >> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
> >> Now, the recipes I 

[CnD] I have A leaf from our table

[lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark]

Hi all,

I have A leaf from our table in braille.

Lori

 



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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

I tried to look on that link, but couldn’t navigate it much.
The one I had was called Evelyn Lee’s New Cookbook, so she must have had a 
couple.  The introduction was written by I think a gentleman who was so totally 
amazed that she was blind, he could not get over himself, haha.
I think it’s like people who ask you who dresses you or where your care giver 
is.
If it is the same book, I have Volume 1, and if it is a different one, it must 
be incomplete if it is only Volume 1.
But thanks.  Somewhere in my house, I have the Braille Cookbook of 1948.
Of course there were no more can labels in the back, just a spot where they 
used to be.
That Big Boy sounds good.  Yes, I have diabetes, but once in a while, you just 
want something that tastes good.






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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used to have a copy of it at the 
Texas School for the Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the goal of the 
agency was to help the blind person become a homemaker so that others in the 
house would not have to stay home and take care of them.  Teachers would spend 
long times in their homes, I think they may have even stayed there back then.  
These days, it's pretty much "stop feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  
But if you can't manage your diabetes without being able to cook it's your 
fault."  I know this because I was a teacher, and that's not how I taught, 
smirk.  

I copied things out of that book myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
don't know where the files went.  I remember a recipe called Big Boy.  You got 
out some foil, made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, and whatever 
vegetables, and put them around the burger on the foil.  You made a packet out 
of the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak out, and baked it for I don't 
remember how long.  I made it and it was good, though a bit greasy.  Not 
exactly foodie fare, but that was over 50 years ago.  And there were different 
nutritional standards and they didn't have all these small electrical devices 
then that we have now.  

I don't know where to get a copy.  I wonder if NLS would be interested in 
dredging up and reissuing some of these old Braille cookbooks if there was 
enough demand.  It's really our history.  

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To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National 
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books, a 
three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called 
Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she 
also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would take all 
the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I couldn't knead out 
all my frustrations?  

There is another 

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Just so you know that air fryer plus is not very accessible either. So I would 
look for a different model.  I just had my friend here helping me with it and 
it turns out it is like a touch screen on an iPhone so labeling it does not 
work.  Sorry for all of the confusion and getting your hopes up.
I was under the impression based on the customer service rep's description that 
it was flat screen and buttons, but that is not the case.
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Subject: [CnD] FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 
19, 2020

Hi I know this nothing to do with cooking but this is important.

Here is the bill I was talking about for technology.

 


Date: June 21, 2020 at 7:14:49 AM CDT
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Hello, we need everybody to call their representatives to urge them to sign 
onto this bill. We have two of the seven Congress people signed on and no 
senators yet. Thank you

 

 

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Dear Federation Family:

 

Great news! We are up to 101 cosponsors on the Access Technology Affordability 
Act in the House and 23 in the Senate. This would not be possible without your 
calls, emails, and social media. 

 

Since the beginning of June, we have gained ten new cosponsors in the House:

Rep. Thompson, Glenn [R-PA-15]

Rep. Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL-7]  

Rep. Crawford, Eric A. "Rick" [R-AR-1] 

Rep. Sherrill, Mikie [D-NJ-11]  

Rep. Mfume, Kweisi [D-MD-7]

Rep. Bilirakis, Gus M. [R-FL-12]   

Rep. Bost, Mike [R-IL-12]  

Rep. McCollum, Betty [D-MN-4]

Rep. Welch, Peter [D-VT-At Large]

 

And in that same time span we’ve gained one new cosponsor in the Senate:

Sen. Klobuchar, Amy [D-MN]

 

Yesterday, the House Ways and Means Committee, Subcommittee on Select Revenue 
Measures, held a hearing entitled Tax Relief to Support Workers and Families 
during the COVID-19 Recession.

 

Rep. Thompson, who is both chair of the subcommittee and the sponsor of the 
Access Technology Affordability Act, expressed strong support for the bill and 
urged his fellow members to support it as well. He also entered the attached 
support letter from President Riccobono into the record.

 

Please continue to contact your senators and representatives and urge them to 
cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability Act if they have not already done 
so. A complete list of Senate and House cosponsors can be found below.

 

When you call or email your senators or representative you might say something 
like:

 

"Hello, my name is [YOUR NAME], and I am a constituent of 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME]. I live in [CITY, STATE]. COVID-19 has impacted 
employment and educational opportunities for blind Americans. In a time of 
physical distancing, self-sufficiency is also paramount. I urge 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME] to cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability 
Act [H.R. 2086 in the House/S. 815 in the Senate]. This bill creates a 
refundable tax credit in the amount of $2,000 to offset the cost of expensive 
access technology, such as Braille embossers, Braille notetakers, and screen 
reading software. In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic a bill that will help 
increase employment opportunities, educational opportunities, and 
self-sufficiency for blind Americans is needed more than ever. Thank you.”

 

You can contact your member of Congress by calling the Capitol Switchboard and 
asking for the office in question. The number is 202-224-3121. If you email 
your representative or senators, please copy Jeff Kaloc at jka...@nfb.org 
 . Your calls and emails do make a difference.

 

It is best to call or email the 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark]

It was always only Braille.  Thanks for looking that up.



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From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:55 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Jeanne Fike 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hi,
The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to one's
computer or a notetaker.
   Jeanne

On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at 
> National Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date 
> is 1997, so it is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  
> There are five soft-cover Braille volumes.  The book is actually a 
> combination of two different books, a three-part series called Cooking 
> with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called Cooking with Feeling 
> Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she also had a 
> bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread 
> machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would 
> take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
> couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
>
> There is another Braille Book on BARD,  A leaf from our table / 
> BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of 
> Catholic Guild.
>
> This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that 
> these women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had 
> several other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, 
> which was just called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own 
> learning how to make bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  
> Maybe there were others as well, but the only one I had was the one on 
> bread.
>
> So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were 
> rather obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly 
> visual descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though 
> recipes I know are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it 
> was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the 
> recipes have been test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody asks 
> around for recipes and people just copy them out.  They may or may not 
> have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the 
> instructions.
>
> I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind 
> cooks.
>
>   -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On 
> Behalf Of gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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>
> What a hoot.
> Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark]

Hi,
The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to
one's computer or a notetaker.
   Jeanne

On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National
> Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it
> is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five
> soft-cover
> Braille volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different
> books,
> a three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one
> called Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I
> believe she also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are
> accessible bread machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a
> machine would take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the
> point, if I couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
>
> There is another Braille Book on BARD,
>  A leaf from our table / BRA10152
> Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.
>
> This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these
> women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several
> other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just
> called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to
> make
> bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as
> well, but the only one I had was the one on bread.
>
> So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather
> obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual
> descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know
> are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an
> ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been
> test-driven
> by a real blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just
> copy them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't
> necessarily adapted the instructions.
>
> I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind
> cooks.
>
>   -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
> gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: gail johnson 
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> What a hoot.
> Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark]

I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used to have a copy of it at the 
Texas School for the Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the goal of the 
agency was to help the blind person become a homemaker so that others in the 
house would not have to stay home and take care of them.  Teachers would spend 
long times in their homes, I think they may have even stayed there back then.  
These days, it's pretty much "stop feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  
But if you can't manage your diabetes without being able to cook it's your 
fault."  I know this because I was a teacher, and that's not how I taught, 
smirk.  

I copied things out of that book myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
don't know where the files went.  I remember a recipe called Big Boy.  You got 
out some foil, made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, and whatever 
vegetables, and put them around the burger on the foil.  You made a packet out 
of the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak out, and baked it for I don't 
remember how long.  I made it and it was good, though a bit greasy.  Not 
exactly foodie fare, but that was over 50 years ago.  And there were different 
nutritional standards and they didn't have all these small electrical devices 
then that we have now.  

I don't know where to get a copy.  I wonder if NLS would be interested in 
dredging up and reissuing some of these old Braille cookbooks if there was 
enough demand.  It's really our history.  

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From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:21 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National 
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books, a 
three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called 
Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she 
also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would take all 
the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I couldn't knead out 
all my frustrations?  

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
 A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these 
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several other 
books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just called, 
Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make bread.  
They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as well, but 
the only one I had was the one on bread.  

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather 
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual 
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know are 
Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an ACB or 
NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven by a real 
blind person.  Somebody asks around for 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Tiffany H. Jessen via Cookinginthedark]

Googling, this page is closed, but it seems to imply your book really is only 
one volume. Maybe the recipe you found outside of the book was from a different 
source altogether?
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/71247568


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From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf 
Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:34 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:21 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National 
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books, a 
three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called 
Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she 
also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would take all 
the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I couldn't knead out 
all my frustrations?  

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
 A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these 
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several other 
books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just called, 
Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make bread.  
They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as well, but 
the only one I had was the one on bread.  

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather 
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual 
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know are 
Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an ACB or 
NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven by a real 
blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just copy them out.  
They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the 
instructions. 

I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind cooks.

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From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: gail johnson 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

What a hoot.
Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never got 
that one
I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan School 
For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something like that.  She 
came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or somewhere.
She was older, but very kind and likeable.
I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way to 
at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called A 
Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice Megamall now, 
but they are not the one that was.
There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been either 
meat loaf or Meatloaf.
Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
Lora and Firefly
 
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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:49 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on that 
book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and nutrition 
have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good recipes and tips 
and for some of us, memories.



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From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as in 
the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was actually 
read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time ago, don't 
know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, 
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried 
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from 
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says 
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males 
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was 
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably 
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and 
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of 
> us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide 
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us 
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what 
> she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  
> The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd 
> need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us 
> that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and 
> prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys 
> prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have 
> laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when she came 
> back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really didn't 
> have to use all the ice cream for your milk shakes".  All in all, she 
> was a nice lady and her book is still useful and has pretty much stood the 
> test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > 

Re: [CnD] FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020

[meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark]

That's the Access Technology Affordability Act.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/815


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From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:27 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Jennifer Thompson 
Subject: [CnD] FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 
19, 2020

Hi I know this nothing to do with cooking but this is important.

Here is the bill I was talking about for technology.

 


Date: June 21, 2020 at 7:14:49 AM CDT
To: nfbwn...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020
Reply-To: nfbwn...@googlegroups.com  

Hello, we need everybody to call their representatives to urge them to sign 
onto this bill. We have two of the seven Congress people signed on and no 
senators yet. Thank you

 

 

John Fritz
608-387-0494  

johnfrit...@gmail.com  


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Date: June 19, 2020 at 3:51:59 PM CDT
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Dear Federation Family:

 

Great news! We are up to 101 cosponsors on the Access Technology Affordability 
Act in the House and 23 in the Senate. This would not be possible without your 
calls, emails, and social media. 

 

Since the beginning of June, we have gained ten new cosponsors in the House:

Rep. Thompson, Glenn [R-PA-15]

Rep. Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL-7]  

Rep. Crawford, Eric A. "Rick" [R-AR-1] 

Rep. Sherrill, Mikie [D-NJ-11]  

Rep. Mfume, Kweisi [D-MD-7]

Rep. Bilirakis, Gus M. [R-FL-12]   

Rep. Bost, Mike [R-IL-12]  

Rep. McCollum, Betty [D-MN-4]

Rep. Welch, Peter [D-VT-At Large]

 

And in that same time span we’ve gained one new cosponsor in the Senate:

Sen. Klobuchar, Amy [D-MN]

 

Yesterday, the House Ways and Means Committee, Subcommittee on Select Revenue 
Measures, held a hearing entitled Tax Relief to Support Workers and Families 
during the COVID-19 Recession.

 

Rep. Thompson, who is both chair of the subcommittee and the sponsor of the 
Access Technology Affordability Act, expressed strong support for the bill and 
urged his fellow members to support it as well. He also entered the attached 
support letter from President Riccobono into the record.

 

Please continue to contact your senators and representatives and urge them to 
cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability Act if they have not already done 
so. A complete list of Senate and House cosponsors can be found below.

 

When you call or email your senators or representative you might say something 
like:

 

"Hello, my name is [YOUR NAME], and I am a constituent of 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME]. I live in [CITY, STATE]. COVID-19 has impacted 
employment and educational opportunities for blind Americans. In a time of 
physical distancing, self-sufficiency is also paramount. I urge 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME] to cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability 
Act [H.R. 2086 in the House/S. 815 in the Senate]. This bill creates a 
refundable tax credit in the amount of $2,000 to offset the cost of expensive 
access technology, such as Braille embossers, Braille notetakers, and screen 
reading software. In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic a bill that will help 
increase employment opportunities, educational opportunities, and 
self-sufficiency for blind Americans is needed more than ever. Thank you.”

 

You can contact your member of Congress by calling the Capitol Switchboard and 
asking for the office in question. The number is 202-224-3121. If you email 
your representative or senators, please copy Jeff Kaloc at jka...@nfb.org 
 . Your calls and emails do make a difference.

 

It is best to call or email the relevant tax staffer in your member of 
Congress's office. If you need the name and email of the appropriate staff 
person for any Senate or House office, please email Jesa Medders at 
jmedd...@nfb.org  . 

 

The more cosponsors we have in the House and Senate, the more likely Congress 
will include this bill in the next COVID-19 package. That package is likely to 
pass sometime in July so we need to continue to build cosponsor support 
quickly. 

 

Have a great weekend.

 

Warm regards,

John Pare

National Federation of the Blind

410-659-9314, extension 2218

 

H.R. 2086 Cosponsors

Rep. Rogers, Mike D. [R-AL-3] 

Rep. Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL-7]  

Rep. Gallego, Ruben [D-AZ-7] 

Rep. Kirkpatrick, Ann [D-AZ-2]

Rep. Schweikert, David 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:21 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it
is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover
Braille volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books,
a three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one
called Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are
accessible bread machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a
machine would take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the
point, if I couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
 A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several
other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just
called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make
bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as
well, but the only one I had was the one on bread.  

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know
are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an
ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven
by a real blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just
copy them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't
necessarily adapted the instructions. 

I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind cooks.

  -Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: gail johnson 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

What a hoot.
Milk shake sounds good.
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[CnD] FW: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020

[Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark]

Hi I know this nothing to do with cooking but this is important.

Here is the bill I was talking about for technology.

 


Date: June 21, 2020 at 7:14:49 AM CDT
To: nfbwn...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [NFBWNews] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020
Reply-To: nfbwn...@googlegroups.com  

Hello, we need everybody to call their representatives to urge them to sign 
onto this bill. We have two of the seven Congress people signed on and no 
senators yet. Thank you

 

 

John Fritz
608-387-0494  

johnfrit...@gmail.com  


Living Intentionally For Excellence!


I am Living The Life I Want!

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From: "Pare, John via NFBNet-Members-List" mailto:nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org> >
Date: June 19, 2020 at 3:51:59 PM CDT
To: "nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org  " 
mailto:nfbnet-members-l...@nfbnet.org> >
Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert June 19, 2020
Reply-To: "Pare, John" 

 

Dear Federation Family:

 

Great news! We are up to 101 cosponsors on the Access Technology Affordability 
Act in the House and 23 in the Senate. This would not be possible without your 
calls, emails, and social media. 

 

Since the beginning of June, we have gained ten new cosponsors in the House:

Rep. Thompson, Glenn [R-PA-15]

Rep. Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL-7]  

Rep. Crawford, Eric A. "Rick" [R-AR-1] 

Rep. Sherrill, Mikie [D-NJ-11]  

Rep. Mfume, Kweisi [D-MD-7]

Rep. Bilirakis, Gus M. [R-FL-12]   

Rep. Bost, Mike [R-IL-12]  

Rep. McCollum, Betty [D-MN-4]

Rep. Welch, Peter [D-VT-At Large]

 

And in that same time span we’ve gained one new cosponsor in the Senate:

Sen. Klobuchar, Amy [D-MN]

 

Yesterday, the House Ways and Means Committee, Subcommittee on Select Revenue 
Measures, held a hearing entitled Tax Relief to Support Workers and Families 
during the COVID-19 Recession.

 

Rep. Thompson, who is both chair of the subcommittee and the sponsor of the 
Access Technology Affordability Act, expressed strong support for the bill and 
urged his fellow members to support it as well. He also entered the attached 
support letter from President Riccobono into the record.

 

Please continue to contact your senators and representatives and urge them to 
cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability Act if they have not already done 
so. A complete list of Senate and House cosponsors can be found below.

 

When you call or email your senators or representative you might say something 
like:

 

"Hello, my name is [YOUR NAME], and I am a constituent of 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME]. I live in [CITY, STATE]. COVID-19 has impacted 
employment and educational opportunities for blind Americans. In a time of 
physical distancing, self-sufficiency is also paramount. I urge 
[REPRESENTATIVE/SENATOR NAME] to cosponsor the Access Technology Affordability 
Act [H.R. 2086 in the House/S. 815 in the Senate]. This bill creates a 
refundable tax credit in the amount of $2,000 to offset the cost of expensive 
access technology, such as Braille embossers, Braille notetakers, and screen 
reading software. In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic a bill that will help 
increase employment opportunities, educational opportunities, and 
self-sufficiency for blind Americans is needed more than ever. Thank you.”

 

You can contact your member of Congress by calling the Capitol Switchboard and 
asking for the office in question. The number is 202-224-3121. If you email 
your representative or senators, please copy Jeff Kaloc at jka...@nfb.org 
 . Your calls and emails do make a difference.

 

It is best to call or email the relevant tax staffer in your member of 
Congress's office. If you need the name and email of the appropriate staff 
person for any Senate or House office, please email Jesa Medders at 
jmedd...@nfb.org  . 

 

The more cosponsors we have in the House and Senate, the more likely Congress 
will include this bill in the next COVID-19 package. That package is likely to 
pass sometime in July so we need to continue to build cosponsor support 
quickly. 

 

Have a great weekend.

 

Warm regards,

John Pare

National Federation of the Blind

410-659-9314, extension 2218

 

H.R. 2086 Cosponsors

Rep. Rogers, Mike D. [R-AL-3] 

Rep. Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL-7]  

Rep. Gallego, Ruben [D-AZ-7] 

Rep. Kirkpatrick, Ann [D-AZ-2]

Rep. Schweikert, David [R-AZ-6] 

Rep. Crawford, Eric A. "Rick" [R-AR-1] 

Rep. Aguilar, Pete [D-CA-31]   

Rep. Brownley, Julia [D-CA-26]   

Rep. Calvert, Ken [R-CA-42] 

Rep. Eshoo, Anna G. [D-CA-18]   

Rep. Harder, Josh [D-CA-10]

Rep. Hunter, Duncan D. [R-CA-50]

Rep. Khanna, Ro [D-CA-17]  

Rep. Lee, Barbara [D-CA-13]

Rep. Lieu, Ted [D-CA-33]   

Rep. 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark]

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it
is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover
Braille volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books,
a three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one
called Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are
accessible bread machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a
machine would take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the
point, if I couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
 A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several
other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just
called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make
bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as
well, but the only one I had was the one on bread.  

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know
are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an
ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven
by a real blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just
copy them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't
necessarily adapted the instructions. 

I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind cooks.

  -Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: gail johnson 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

What a hoot.
Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] Easy Cheesy Zucchini Gratin

[Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark]

I think the xantham gum is used for thickener in foods for people who have to 
eat their meals gluten free.
I probably wouldn’t ever have to use it, but if you found out the reason you 
were getting sick was from Celiac’s disease or something, you would have to 
make sure to stop using regular flour and other stuff.
I guess most of us are pretty lucky to be able to use all the regular old stuff 
we use.  But I know someone in one of my other groups who has to eat gluten 
free and I also now know of a second person who had to start eating that way 
too.  She writes a recipe column too, so I sure wouldn’t like to have to do 
that.
But I admire the people who have to come up with creative ways to do the stuff 
they make.
 I know this is an older message, but I still have a lot of stuff in my inbox.
Lora and Firefly


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From: Kathy Brandt via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:01 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Kathy Brandt; Luella Harpster
Subject: Re: [CnD] Easy Cheesy Zucchini Gratin

Sounds good, minus the xanthan gum. I’m sure these days the stores are having a 
real run on that/joking. Would rather use cornstarch or flour as a thickening 
agent, which is what I read xanthan gum is.

On May 6, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark 
 wrote:

Easy Cheesy Zucchini Gratin



Author: Mellissa Sevigny

Prep Time: 10 minutes

Cook Time: 46 minutes

Total Time: 56 minutes

Yield: 9 servings 

Category: Low Carb Side Dish

Cuisine: American



ingredients

4 cups sliced raw zucchini

1 small onion, peeled and sliced thin

salt and pepper to taste

1 1/2 cups shredded pepper jack cheese

2 Tbsp butter

1/2 tsp garlic powder

1/2 cup heavy whipping cream

1/4 teaspoon xanthan gum



instructions

1. Preheat oven to 375 degrees (F).

2. Grease a 9×9 or equivalent oven proof pan.

3. Overlap 1/3 of the zucchini and onion slices in the pan, then season with
salt and pepper and sprinkle with 1/2 cup of shredded cheese.

4. Repeat two more times until you have three layers and have used up all of
the zucchini, onions, and shredded cheese.

5. Combine the garlic powder, butter, heavy cream, and xanthan gum in a
microwave safe dish.

Heat for one minute or until the butter has melted. Whisk until smooth.

6. Gently pour the butter and cream mixture over the zucchini layers.

7. Bake at 375 degrees (F) for about 45 minutes, or until the liquid has
thickened and the top is golden brown.



Serve warm.



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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark]

I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on that 
book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and nutrition 
have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good recipes and tips 
and for some of us, memories.



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as in 
the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was actually 
read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time ago, don't 
know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, 
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried 
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from 
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says 
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males 
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was 
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably 
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and 
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of 
> us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide 
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us 
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what 
> she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  
> The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd 
> need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us 
> that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and 
> prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys 
> prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have 
> laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when she came 
> back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really didn't 
> have to use all the ice cream for your milk shakes".  All in all, she 
> was a nice lady and her book is still useful and has pretty much stood the 
> test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking 
> > without Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other 
> > with the db starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just 
> > looked.) When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read 
> > for a Talking Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded 
> > a copy of the Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it 
> > to me at Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would 
> > like to get them on to a sd card for my stream.
> > Happy cooking. :)
> > Jeanne
> >
> > On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
> >  wrote:
> >> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
> >> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book Has 
> >> long gone into the recycling bin.
> >>
> >> Marie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Cookinginthedark 
> >> [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
> >> To: 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

[Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark]

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as
in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was
actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time
ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark <
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, it
> was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried when I
> had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior at
> Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two other
> senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill our
> graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take shop
> or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided together
> that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. Tipps had
> been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had written
> Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who was
> totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would have it,
> it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably took
> it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and worked in
> some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide what
> they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us what we
> wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what she thought
> when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  The day before
> our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd need.  The next
> day when we came to class, somebody came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was
> out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So
> I remember three unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and
> milk shakes.  I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember
> the next class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You
> know guys, you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
> > Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
> > starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
> > When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
> > Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
> > Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
> > Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
> > them on to a sd card for my stream.
> > Happy cooking. :)
> > Jeanne
> >
> > On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
> >  wrote:
> >> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
> >> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
> >> Has long gone into the recycling bin.
> >>
> >> Marie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
> >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> >> Cc: Rebecca Manners
> >> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
> >>
> >> I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
> >> available
> >> in braille.
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Cookinginthedark  on
> behalf of
> >> Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
> >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
> >> Cc: Marie Rudys 
> >> Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind
> >>
> >> Hello, everyone.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For those