Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

[Len Swindley]

Hello again, Tom,

I think you may have been looking at an inferior website. The best site to 
refer to is:

Ask About Ireland http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ takes you 
to Griffiths Valuation
Click on Griffiths Places and enter Milltown, Tyrone, Ardstraw and open in a 
new window – brings up the historic map that accompanied Griffiths Valuation 
(1858 for Ardstraw) that indicates farms and buildings extant at that time. In 
the right top corner is a slider and negotiate it to superimpose the modern map 
upon the same location; it will be possible to locate the remains (if any have 
survived) of the mill.

Good luck,
Len Swindley


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From: Peter Kincaid 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 5:38:56 AM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Cc: Len Swindley
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Lough Catherine is west of Newtownstewart and on its east side was Baronscourt 
- the mansion of the Earls/Marquis/Duke of Abercorn.

Peter

On Thursday, May 31, 2018, Tom Chambers 
mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Len,

After looking closer at your reference to the Ardstraw corn mill it says 
townland Milltown, not the village Milltown.  So I found townland Milltown 
which is by Strabane.  My sister found this link to mills in Northern Ireland 
(pretty complete!)
http://www.millsofnorthernireland.com
After looking at that, I am uncertain where the Ardstraw corn mill would have 
been.  For one thing, I could not find Lough Catherine.  Ideas?

Tom

From: Len Swindley<mailto:len_swind...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:16 AM
To: Tom Chambers<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>; 
CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com<mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com>
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Yes Tom,

John Chambers would have required another trade or calling to see the family 
through those months that the mill wasn’t working. Linen merchants were in 
abundance in the north-west and he would have traded at the market in Strabane. 
My 4th and 5th great grandfathers were linen merchants in Strabane c1760-1822; 
the linen industry waxed and waned every seven or so years and it was necessary 
to have other talents. My 4th g-grandfather was also a schoolmaster at Lifford, 
Co. Donegal in the 1790s.

Enjoy your holiday in Newtownstewart.
Len


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From: Tom Chambers mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:32:36 AM
To: Len Swindley; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Hello Len,

Thanks for this exiting new information regarding John Chambers and the corn 
mill in Milltown.  I see it is very close to Newtownstewart, so we will 
definitely check it out.  You have a good memory, because John and Martha lived 
on Upper St (now Main Street) and had an office next door, I believe.  In her 
interment papers, his daughter (Mary Ann) listed John’s occupation as Linen 
Merchant.  So perhaps that was the purpose of the office.  Sounds like John 
dabbled in other things!

Yes, I will give a report with photos when I get back.  We will be staying in 
Newtownstewart for two nights – much to explore in a relatively short time!

Thanks again for all the time you spend on Tyrone ancestry.

Tom Chambers

From: Len Swindley<mailto:len_swind...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:26 AM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List<mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com>; 
tchamber...@gmail.com<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Hello Tom,

Here is a little further information that will be of benefit to you during tour 
trip to Newtownstewart, Ardstraw parish, Co. Tyrone:

Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parish of County Tyrone 1, 1821, 1823, 
1831-36 (Vol. 5) (eds) Day & McWilliams (Institute of Irish Studies, The 
Queen’s University of Belfast, (1990)
PARISH OF ARDSTRAW;
Memoir by John Fleming Tait & J. Hill Williams, January 1831 pp. 2-14
MILLS:
Ardstraw corn mill, in the townland of Milltown, , in good repair, erected in 
1740, repaired in 1835, proprietor John Chambers, breast wheel 14 feet by 14 
inches, diameter of cog wheel 7 feet, fall of water 8 feet, single geared, 
wooden machinery; water supplied by the outlet of Lough Catherine, works only 
three months in the year
(I recall in one of my previous items sent to you there being a reference to 
John Chambers occupying an office in Newtownstewart).

I wish you an enjoyable foray in and around Newtownstewart and hope we can have 
a report of your findings and perhaps some photos?
All good wishes,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

[Peter Kincaid]

Lough Catherine is west of Newtownstewart and on its east side was
Baronscourt - the mansion of the Earls/Marquis/Duke of Abercorn.

Peter

On Thursday, May 31, 2018, Tom Chambers  wrote:

> Len,
>
>
>
> After looking closer at your reference to the Ardstraw corn mill it says
> townland Milltown, not the village Milltown.  So I found townland Milltown
> which is by Strabane.  My sister found this link to mills in Northern
> Ireland (pretty complete!)
>
> http://www.millsofnorthernireland.com
>
> After looking at that, I am uncertain where the Ardstraw corn mill would
> have been.  For one thing, I could not find Lough Catherine.  Ideas?
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> *From: *Len Swindley 
> *Sent: *Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:16 AM
> *To: *Tom Chambers ; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.
> com
> *Subject: *RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage
>
>
>
> Yes Tom,
>
>
>
> John Chambers would have required another trade or calling to see the
> family through those months that the mill wasn’t working. Linen merchants
> were in abundance in the north-west and he would have traded at the market
> in Strabane. My 4th and 5th great grandfathers were linen merchants in
> Strabane c1760-1822; the linen industry waxed and waned every seven or so
> years and it was necessary to have other talents. My 4th g-grandfather
> was also a schoolmaster at Lifford, Co. Donegal in the 1790s.
>
>
>
> Enjoy your holiday in Newtownstewart.
>
> Len
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Chambers 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:32:36 AM
> *To:* Len Swindley; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
> *Subject:* RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage
>
>
>
> Hello Len,
>
>
>
> Thanks for this exiting new information regarding John Chambers and the
> corn mill in Milltown.  I see it is very close to Newtownstewart, so we
> will definitely check it out.  You have a good memory, because John and
> Martha lived on Upper St (now Main Street) and had an office next door, I
> believe.  In her interment papers, his daughter (Mary Ann) listed John’s
> occupation as Linen Merchant.  So perhaps that was the purpose of the
> office.  Sounds like John dabbled in other things!
>
>
>
> Yes, I will give a report with photos when I get back.  We will be staying
> in Newtownstewart for two nights – much to explore in a relatively short
> time!
>
>
>
> Thanks again for all the time you spend on Tyrone ancestry.
>
>
>
> Tom Chambers
>
>
>
> *From: *Len Swindley 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:26 AM
> *To: *CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List ;
> tchamber...@gmail.com
> *Subject: *RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage
>
>
>
> Hello Tom,
>
>
>
> Here is a little further information that will be of benefit to you during
> tour trip to Newtownstewart, Ardstraw parish, Co. Tyrone:
>
>
>
> Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parish of County Tyrone 1, 1821, 1823,
> 1831-36 (Vol. 5) (eds) Day & McWilliams (Institute of Irish Studies, The
> Queen’s University of Belfast, (1990)
>
> PARISH OF ARDSTRAW;
>
> Memoir by John Fleming Tait & J. Hill Williams, January 1831 pp. 2-14
>
> MILLS:
>
> Ardstraw corn mill, in the townland of Milltown, , in good repair, erected
> in 1740, repaired in 1835, proprietor John Chambers, breast wheel 14 feet
> by 14 inches, diameter of cog wheel 7 feet, fall of water 8 feet, single
> geared, wooden machinery; water supplied by the outlet of Lough Catherine,
> works only three months in the year
>
> (I recall in one of my previous items sent to you there being a reference
> to John Chambers occupying an office in Newtownstewart).
>
>
>
> I wish you an enjoyable foray in and around Newtownstewart and hope we can
> have a report of your findings and perhaps some photos?
>
> All good wishes,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
>
>
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> Windows 10
>
>
>
> [image: cid:image002.png@01D3F844.93A9CE00]
>
> *From:* CoTyroneList  on behalf
> of Tom Chambers 
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:06:50 AM
> *To:* tchamber...@gmail.com; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
> *Subject:* Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage
>
>
>
> While looking up the St Eugene’s graveyard, I came upon the boundaries of
> Moyle Glebe townland.  Here is the link:
>
> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TYR/Newtownstewart/StEugene
>
>
>
> Also, a while back I discovered this link via google.
> http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

[Arnie Ross]

're Lough Catherine. This is part of the estate of the Duke of Abercorn and is 
near Newtownstewart in Co Tyrone.

The Lough is the largest of 3 on the estate at 91 acres and was named after the 
daughter if an earlier Duke.


Regards
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From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of Tom 
Chambers 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:54:10 PM
To: Len Swindley; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Len,

After looking closer at your reference to the Ardstraw corn mill it says 
townland Milltown, not the village Milltown.  So I found townland Milltown 
which is by Strabane.  My sister found this link to mills in Northern Ireland 
(pretty complete!)
http://www.millsofnorthernireland.com
After looking at that, I am uncertain where the Ardstraw corn mill would have 
been.  For one thing, I could not find Lough Catherine.  Ideas?

Tom

From: Len Swindley<mailto:len_swind...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:16 AM
To: Tom Chambers<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>; 
CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com<mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com>
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Yes Tom,

John Chambers would have required another trade or calling to see the family 
through those months that the mill wasn’t working. Linen merchants were in 
abundance in the north-west and he would have traded at the market in Strabane. 
My 4th and 5th great grandfathers were linen merchants in Strabane c1760-1822; 
the linen industry waxed and waned every seven or so years and it was necessary 
to have other talents. My 4th g-grandfather was also a schoolmaster at Lifford, 
Co. Donegal in the 1790s.

Enjoy your holiday in Newtownstewart.
Len


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From: Tom Chambers 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:32:36 AM
To: Len Swindley; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Hello Len,

Thanks for this exiting new information regarding John Chambers and the corn 
mill in Milltown.  I see it is very close to Newtownstewart, so we will 
definitely check it out.  You have a good memory, because John and Martha lived 
on Upper St (now Main Street) and had an office next door, I believe.  In her 
interment papers, his daughter (Mary Ann) listed John’s occupation as Linen 
Merchant.  So perhaps that was the purpose of the office.  Sounds like John 
dabbled in other things!

Yes, I will give a report with photos when I get back.  We will be staying in 
Newtownstewart for two nights – much to explore in a relatively short time!

Thanks again for all the time you spend on Tyrone ancestry.

Tom Chambers

From: Len Swindley<mailto:len_swind...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:26 AM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List<mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com>; 
tchamber...@gmail.com<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Hello Tom,

Here is a little further information that will be of benefit to you during tour 
trip to Newtownstewart, Ardstraw parish, Co. Tyrone:

Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parish of County Tyrone 1, 1821, 1823, 
1831-36 (Vol. 5) (eds) Day & McWilliams (Institute of Irish Studies, The 
Queen’s University of Belfast, (1990)
PARISH OF ARDSTRAW;
Memoir by John Fleming Tait & J. Hill Williams, January 1831 pp. 2-14
MILLS:
Ardstraw corn mill, in the townland of Milltown, , in good repair, erected in 
1740, repaired in 1835, proprietor John Chambers, breast wheel 14 feet by 14 
inches, diameter of cog wheel 7 feet, fall of water 8 feet, single geared, 
wooden machinery; water supplied by the outlet of Lough Catherine, works only 
three months in the year
(I recall in one of my previous items sent to you there being a reference to 
John Chambers occupying an office in Newtownstewart).

I wish you an enjoyable foray in and around Newtownstewart and hope we can have 
a report of your findings and perhaps some photos?
All good wishes,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of Tom 
Chambers 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:06:50 AM
To: tchamber...@gmail.com; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

While looking up the St Eugene’s graveyard, I came upon the boundaries of Moyle 
Glebe townland.  Here is the link:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TYR/Newtownstewart/StEugene

Also, a while back I discovered this link via google.  
http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/site/2355?preview=1
It is a government link.  It makes reference to the location of “Moyle House”.  
 The site doesn’t seem to know the significance of Moyle House.  I checked and 
it is within Moyle Glebe, and it fits the description of where Sir Thomas 
Macle

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

[EVELYN CARDWELL]

I think Lough Catherine is in the direction of  Baronscourt, home of Duke of 
Abercorn, not local to the area, but think I came across this somewhere. 
Evelyn

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[Tom Chambers]

Len,

After looking closer at your reference to the Ardstraw corn mill it says 
townland Milltown, not the village Milltown.  So I found townland Milltown 
which is by Strabane.  My sister found this link to mills in Northern Ireland 
(pretty complete!) 
http://www.millsofnorthernireland.com
After looking at that, I am uncertain where the Ardstraw corn mill would have 
been.  For one thing, I could not find Lough Catherine.  Ideas?

Tom

From: Len Swindley
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:16 AM
To: Tom Chambers; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Yes Tom, 

John Chambers would have required another trade or calling to see the family 
through those months that the mill wasn’t working. Linen merchants were in 
abundance in the north-west and he would have traded at the market in Strabane. 
My 4th and 5th great grandfathers were linen merchants in Strabane c1760-1822; 
the linen industry waxed and waned every seven or so years and it was necessary 
to have other talents. My 4th g-grandfather was also a schoolmaster at Lifford, 
Co. Donegal in the 1790s.

Enjoy your holiday in Newtownstewart.
Len


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From: Tom Chambers 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:32:36 AM
To: Len Swindley; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage 
 
Hello Len,

Thanks for this exiting new information regarding John Chambers and the corn 
mill in Milltown.  I see it is very close to Newtownstewart, so we will 
definitely check it out.  You have a good memory, because John and Martha lived 
on Upper St (now Main Street) and had an office next door, I believe.  In her 
interment papers, his daughter (Mary Ann) listed John’s occupation as Linen 
Merchant.  So perhaps that was the purpose of the office.  Sounds like John 
dabbled in other things!

Yes, I will give a report with photos when I get back.  We will be staying in 
Newtownstewart for two nights – much to explore in a relatively short time!

Thanks again for all the time you spend on Tyrone ancestry.

Tom Chambers

From: Len Swindley
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:26 AM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List; tchamber...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Hello Tom,

Here is a little further information that will be of benefit to you during tour 
trip to Newtownstewart, Ardstraw parish, Co. Tyrone:

Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parish of County Tyrone 1, 1821, 1823, 
1831-36 (Vol. 5) (eds) Day & McWilliams (Institute of Irish Studies, The 
Queen’s University of Belfast, (1990)
PARISH OF ARDSTRAW;
Memoir by John Fleming Tait & J. Hill Williams, January 1831 pp. 2-14
MILLS:
Ardstraw corn mill, in the townland of Milltown, , in good repair, erected in 
1740, repaired in 1835, proprietor John Chambers, breast wheel 14 feet by 14 
inches, diameter of cog wheel 7 feet, fall of water 8 feet, single geared, 
wooden machinery; water supplied by the outlet of Lough Catherine, works only 
three months in the year
(I recall in one of my previous items sent to you there being a reference to 
John Chambers occupying an office in Newtownstewart).

I wish you an enjoyable foray in and around Newtownstewart and hope we can have 
a report of your findings and perhaps some photos?
All good wishes,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of Tom 
Chambers 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:06:50 AM
To: tchamber...@gmail.com; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage 
 
While looking up the St Eugene’s graveyard, I came upon the boundaries of Moyle 
Glebe townland.  Here is the link:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TYR/Newtownstewart/StEugene

Also, a while back I discovered this link via google.  
http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/site/2355?preview=1
It is a government link.  It makes reference to the location of “Moyle House”.  
 The site doesn’t seem to know the significance of Moyle House.  I checked and 
it is within Moyle Glebe, and it fits the description of where Sir Thomas 
Maclear was born.  

I believe it might have been where the Rev James Thomas Maclear (his father) 
lived.  Here are some of the references to Moyle Cottage:
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear (the Rev’s son) saw his first light.  Was born.
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear’s mother, Mary McGrath, died.

Anyway, just a bit of trivia.  

When we go to Newtownstewart in June I will check it out.  (promise not to 
trespass!)

Oh by the way, the significance to me is that my 3rd Great Grandmother, Martha 
(Maclear) Chambers was a daughter of the Rev James Thomas Maclear.

Meanwhile, I have the location of St Eugene’s Graveyard.

Thanks Len and Carmen for your ideas on Moyle Cottage.

Tom



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[Len Swindley]

Yes Tom,

John Chambers would have required another trade or calling to see the family 
through those months that the mill wasn’t working. Linen merchants were in 
abundance in the north-west and he would have traded at the market in Strabane. 
My 4th and 5th great grandfathers were linen merchants in Strabane c1760-1822; 
the linen industry waxed and waned every seven or so years and it was necessary 
to have other talents. My 4th g-grandfather was also a schoolmaster at Lifford, 
Co. Donegal in the 1790s.

Enjoy your holiday in Newtownstewart.
Len


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From: Tom Chambers 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:32:36 AM
To: Len Swindley; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Hello Len,

Thanks for this exiting new information regarding John Chambers and the corn 
mill in Milltown.  I see it is very close to Newtownstewart, so we will 
definitely check it out.  You have a good memory, because John and Martha lived 
on Upper St (now Main Street) and had an office next door, I believe.  In her 
interment papers, his daughter (Mary Ann) listed John’s occupation as Linen 
Merchant.  So perhaps that was the purpose of the office.  Sounds like John 
dabbled in other things!

Yes, I will give a report with photos when I get back.  We will be staying in 
Newtownstewart for two nights – much to explore in a relatively short time!

Thanks again for all the time you spend on Tyrone ancestry.

Tom Chambers

From: Len Swindley<mailto:len_swind...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:26 AM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List<mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com>; 
tchamber...@gmail.com<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Hello Tom,

Here is a little further information that will be of benefit to you during tour 
trip to Newtownstewart, Ardstraw parish, Co. Tyrone:

Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parish of County Tyrone 1, 1821, 1823, 
1831-36 (Vol. 5) (eds) Day & McWilliams (Institute of Irish Studies, The 
Queen’s University of Belfast, (1990)
PARISH OF ARDSTRAW;
Memoir by John Fleming Tait & J. Hill Williams, January 1831 pp. 2-14
MILLS:
Ardstraw corn mill, in the townland of Milltown, , in good repair, erected in 
1740, repaired in 1835, proprietor John Chambers, breast wheel 14 feet by 14 
inches, diameter of cog wheel 7 feet, fall of water 8 feet, single geared, 
wooden machinery; water supplied by the outlet of Lough Catherine, works only 
three months in the year
(I recall in one of my previous items sent to you there being a reference to 
John Chambers occupying an office in Newtownstewart).

I wish you an enjoyable foray in and around Newtownstewart and hope we can have 
a report of your findings and perhaps some photos?
All good wishes,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of Tom 
Chambers 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:06:50 AM
To: tchamber...@gmail.com; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

While looking up the St Eugene’s graveyard, I came upon the boundaries of Moyle 
Glebe townland.  Here is the link:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TYR/Newtownstewart/StEugene

Also, a while back I discovered this link via google.  
http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/site/2355?preview=1
It is a government link.  It makes reference to the location of “Moyle House”.  
 The site doesn’t seem to know the significance of Moyle House.  I checked and 
it is within Moyle Glebe, and it fits the description of where Sir Thomas 
Maclear was born.

I believe it might have been where the Rev James Thomas Maclear (his father) 
lived.  Here are some of the references to Moyle Cottage:
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear (the Rev’s son) saw his first light.  Was born.
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear’s mother, Mary McGrath, died.

Anyway, just a bit of trivia.

When we go to Newtownstewart in June I will check it out.  (promise not to 
trespass!)

Oh by the way, the significance to me is that my 3rd Great Grandmother, Martha 
(Maclear) Chambers was a daughter of the Rev James Thomas Maclear.

Meanwhile, I have the location of St Eugene’s Graveyard.

Thanks Len and Carmen for your ideas on Moyle Cottage.

Tom


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[Tom Chambers]

Hello Len,

Thanks for this exiting new information regarding John Chambers and the corn 
mill in Milltown.  I see it is very close to Newtownstewart, so we will 
definitely check it out.  You have a good memory, because John and Martha lived 
on Upper St (now Main Street) and had an office next door, I believe.  In her 
interment papers, his daughter (Mary Ann) listed John’s occupation as Linen 
Merchant.  So perhaps that was the purpose of the office.  Sounds like John 
dabbled in other things!

Yes, I will give a report with photos when I get back.  We will be staying in 
Newtownstewart for two nights – much to explore in a relatively short time!

Thanks again for all the time you spend on Tyrone ancestry.

Tom Chambers

From: Len Swindley
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:26 AM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List; tchamber...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

Hello Tom,

Here is a little further information that will be of benefit to you during tour 
trip to Newtownstewart, Ardstraw parish, Co. Tyrone:

Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parish of County Tyrone 1, 1821, 1823, 
1831-36 (Vol. 5) (eds) Day & McWilliams (Institute of Irish Studies, The 
Queen’s University of Belfast, (1990)
PARISH OF ARDSTRAW;
Memoir by John Fleming Tait & J. Hill Williams, January 1831 pp. 2-14
MILLS:
Ardstraw corn mill, in the townland of Milltown, , in good repair, erected in 
1740, repaired in 1835, proprietor John Chambers, breast wheel 14 feet by 14 
inches, diameter of cog wheel 7 feet, fall of water 8 feet, single geared, 
wooden machinery; water supplied by the outlet of Lough Catherine, works only 
three months in the year
(I recall in one of my previous items sent to you there being a reference to 
John Chambers occupying an office in Newtownstewart).

I wish you an enjoyable foray in and around Newtownstewart and hope we can have 
a report of your findings and perhaps some photos?
All good wishes,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of Tom 
Chambers 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:06:50 AM
To: tchamber...@gmail.com; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage 
 
While looking up the St Eugene’s graveyard, I came upon the boundaries of Moyle 
Glebe townland.  Here is the link:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TYR/Newtownstewart/StEugene

Also, a while back I discovered this link via google.  
http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/site/2355?preview=1
It is a government link.  It makes reference to the location of “Moyle House”.  
 The site doesn’t seem to know the significance of Moyle House.  I checked and 
it is within Moyle Glebe, and it fits the description of where Sir Thomas 
Maclear was born.  

I believe it might have been where the Rev James Thomas Maclear (his father) 
lived.  Here are some of the references to Moyle Cottage:
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear (the Rev’s son) saw his first light.  Was born.
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear’s mother, Mary McGrath, died.

Anyway, just a bit of trivia.  

When we go to Newtownstewart in June I will check it out.  (promise not to 
trespass!)

Oh by the way, the significance to me is that my 3rd Great Grandmother, Martha 
(Maclear) Chambers was a daughter of the Rev James Thomas Maclear.

Meanwhile, I have the location of St Eugene’s Graveyard.

Thanks Len and Carmen for your ideas on Moyle Cottage.

Tom


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

[Len Swindley]

Hello Tom,

Here is a little further information that will be of benefit to you during tour 
trip to Newtownstewart, Ardstraw parish, Co. Tyrone:

Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parish of County Tyrone 1, 1821, 1823, 
1831-36 (Vol. 5) (eds) Day & McWilliams (Institute of Irish Studies, The 
Queen’s University of Belfast, (1990)
PARISH OF ARDSTRAW;
Memoir by John Fleming Tait & J. Hill Williams, January 1831 pp. 2-14
MILLS:
Ardstraw corn mill, in the townland of Milltown, , in good repair, erected in 
1740, repaired in 1835, proprietor John Chambers, breast wheel 14 feet by 14 
inches, diameter of cog wheel 7 feet, fall of water 8 feet, single geared, 
wooden machinery; water supplied by the outlet of Lough Catherine, works only 
three months in the year
(I recall in one of my previous items sent to you there being a reference to 
John Chambers occupying an office in Newtownstewart).

I wish you an enjoyable foray in and around Newtownstewart and hope we can have 
a report of your findings and perhaps some photos?
All good wishes,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of Tom 
Chambers 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:06:50 AM
To: tchamber...@gmail.com; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

While looking up the St Eugene’s graveyard, I came upon the boundaries of Moyle 
Glebe townland.  Here is the link:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TYR/Newtownstewart/StEugene

Also, a while back I discovered this link via google.  
http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/site/2355?preview=1
It is a government link.  It makes reference to the location of “Moyle House”.  
 The site doesn’t seem to know the significance of Moyle House.  I checked and 
it is within Moyle Glebe, and it fits the description of where Sir Thomas 
Maclear was born.

I believe it might have been where the Rev James Thomas Maclear (his father) 
lived.  Here are some of the references to Moyle Cottage:
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear (the Rev’s son) saw his first light.  Was born.
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear’s mother, Mary McGrath, died.

Anyway, just a bit of trivia.

When we go to Newtownstewart in June I will check it out.  (promise not to 
trespass!)

Oh by the way, the significance to me is that my 3rd Great Grandmother, Martha 
(Maclear) Chambers was a daughter of the Rev James Thomas Maclear.

Meanwhile, I have the location of St Eugene’s Graveyard.

Thanks Len and Carmen for your ideas on Moyle Cottage.

Tom

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[Tom Chambers]

While looking up the St Eugene’s graveyard, I came upon the boundaries of Moyle 
Glebe townland.  Here is the link:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TYR/Newtownstewart/StEugene

Also, a while back I discovered this link via google.  
http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/site/2355?preview=1
It is a government link.  It makes reference to the location of “Moyle House”.  
 The site doesn’t seem to know the significance of Moyle House.  I checked and 
it is within Moyle Glebe, and it fits the description of where Sir Thomas 
Maclear was born.  

I believe it might have been where the Rev James Thomas Maclear (his father) 
lived.  Here are some of the references to Moyle Cottage:
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear (the Rev’s son) saw his first light.  Was born.
It is where Sir Thomas Maclear’s mother, Mary McGrath, died.

Anyway, just a bit of trivia.  

When we go to Newtownstewart in June I will check it out.  (promise not to 
trespass!)

Oh by the way, the significance to me is that my 3rd Great Grandmother, Martha 
(Maclear) Chambers was a daughter of the Rev James Thomas Maclear.

Meanwhile, I have the location of St Eugene’s Graveyard.

Thanks Len and Carmen for your ideas on Moyle Cottage.

Tom

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[Carmen Ferguson]

I've not heard of Moyle cottage but there is a Moyle Road just outside of
Newtownstewart.

Carmen in Ottawa Canada

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Len Swindley 
wrote:

> Hello Tom,
>
>
>
> I can’t give you the location of Moyle Cottage in Newtownstewart, but it
> would have been close by the River Moyle, perhaps in Moyle Glebe townland.
> Referring to *Ardstraw: Historical Survey of a* *Parish* – Canon John H.
> Gebbie (Strule Press, Omagh, Co. Tyrone, 1968)
>
> Page 108
>
> ..Between 300-400 names eminent in professions, educated in this
> parish. It contains a Dean of Maynooth, several Rectors in the clerical
> section. Of medicals, three who have won the honour of knighthood. “And all
> this from a parish whose only resources are agricultural, whose gentry are
> few, and where the average size of farms is under 20 acres of but middling
> land.”
>
> A brief selection of these names: Sir Thomas MacClear, astronomer Royal
> and Cape of Good Hope, friend and adviser of David Livingstone. His uncle,
> Doctor Sir George MacClear . Both born in a cottage at Moyle
>
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne. Australia
>
> -
>
>
>
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>
>
> *From: *Tom Chambers 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, 10 April 2018 9:33 PM
> *To: *CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
> *Subject: *[CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage
>
>
>
> I have seen many references for famous people of Newtownstewart coming
> from Moyle Cottage.  This includes the famous astronomer Sir Thomas Maclear
> and other Sir xxx Magrath.  My interest is that Martha Maclear (Sir Thomas
> Maclear brother) married my 3rd Great Grandfather John Chambers.
>
> So, does anyone know where Moyle Cottage is/was and who then was Moyle?
>
> Tom Chambers
>
>
>
> Names in eminent professions, educated in this parish. It contains a Dean
> of Maynooth, several Recotrs in the clerical section. Of -
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

[Len Swindley]

Hello Tom,

I can’t give you the location of Moyle Cottage in Newtownstewart, but it would 
have been close by the River Moyle, perhaps in Moyle Glebe townland. Referring 
to Ardstraw: Historical Survey of a Parish – Canon John H. Gebbie (Strule 
Press, Omagh, Co. Tyrone, 1968)
Page 108
..Between 300-400 names eminent in professions, educated in this parish. It 
contains a Dean of Maynooth, several Rectors in the clerical section. Of 
medicals, three who have won the honour of knighthood. “And all this from a 
parish whose only resources are agricultural, whose gentry are few, and where 
the average size of farms is under 20 acres of but middling land.”
A brief selection of these names: Sir Thomas MacClear, astronomer Royal and 
Cape of Good Hope, friend and adviser of David Livingstone. His uncle, Doctor 
Sir George MacClear . Both born in a cottage at Moyle

Hope this helps,
Len Swindley, Melbourne. Australia
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From: Tom Chambers
Sent: Tuesday, 10 April 2018 9:33 PM
To: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage

I have seen many references for famous people of Newtownstewart coming from 
Moyle Cottage.  This includes the famous astronomer Sir Thomas Maclear and 
other Sir xxx Magrath.  My interest is that Martha Maclear (Sir Thomas Maclear 
brother) married my 3rd Great Grandfather John Chambers.
So, does anyone know where Moyle Cottage is/was and who then was Moyle?
Tom Chambers

Names in eminent professions, educated in this parish. It contains a Dean of 
Maynooth, several Recotrs in the clerical section. Of -
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