[Coworking] Re: Sample membership agreements?
Hi All, I was surprised to hear there isn't a link to membership agreements on the wiki since this topic--along with requests for member rules, business plans, and other professional business documents--has come up repeatedly off an on over the years. There is a page for business plans, but there's only one business plan listed. So... I just created a new page where coworking space owners can share their (or other spaces', if they've approved it) business plans, membership applications / agreements / contracts, member rules, etc. It's linked from the wiki homepage at the top of the Other Coworking Resources section (which is at the very bottom of the page). The business plans page that was there was incorporated into this page. Here's the direct link: http://wiki.coworking.info/w/page/43988681/Professional%20Documents. Have a look and feel free to improve on it! Please add your professional business documents (you can upload files and link to them, or just link directly to the webpages where they exist). Or if they're publicly available and you feel in the mood, add links to other peoples files that you think are paragon examples. Best, Will On Aug 3, 10:42 pm, john.wil...@gmail.com john.wil...@gmail.com wrote: awesome. thanks Angel and Jacob! John Wilker Founder, 360|Conferences twitter: jwilker http://twitter.com/jwilker johnwilker.com | Ignite Denver http://ignitedenver.org| Denwherehttp://denwhere.com| 360|Flex http://360flex.com | 360|iDev http://360idev.com “A goal is not always meant to be reached, it often serves simply as something to aim at.” ~ Bruce Lee On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Angel Kwiatkowski fccowork...@gmail.comwrote: Ours is athttp://coherecommunity.com/membershiplink is at the top of that page. I think it's borrowed heavily from original Citizen Space and some of the stuff in there is only in there because the landlord required it. Angel On Aug 3, 10:32 am, john.wil...@gmail.com john.wil...@gmail.com wrote: I looked in a wiki though I might have missed it. Are there any sample membership agreements out there? Now that we're ready to take on members, and have people asking for agreements, guess it's time to get that done, LOL THanks guys! John Wilker Founder, 360|Conferences twitter: jwilker http://twitter.com/jwilker johnwilker.com | Ignite Denver http://ignitedenver.org| Denwherehttp://denwhere.com| 360|Flex http://360flex.com | 360|iDev http://360idev.com “A goal is not always meant to be reached, it often serves simply as something to aim at.” ~ Bruce Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Sample membership agreements?
I looked in a wiki though I might have missed it. Are there any sample membership agreements out there? Now that we're ready to take on members, and have people asking for agreements, guess it's time to get that done, LOL The wiki used to have about a half dozen agreements. I know mine used to be on it and I based mine on previous ones and I know 3 or 4 locations have based theirs on mine. I have a handful of updates I want to do now that AltSpace has been operating 3 years. I have not done any updates in 18 months. -- Steven Heath Director, Foxbane Consulting Founder, AltSpace Cell: +64 21 706-067 www.foxbane.co.nz Level 22 Plimmer Towers 2 Gilmer Terrace Wellington AltSpace.co.nz - Shared office space in Wellington for home based workers, freelancers, or nimble companies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Introduction
As many others have said, I’ve been lurking in this group for a while, taking notes and researching. Thank you all forthe abundance of info you all provide! A buddy of mine and myself and looking to open a co-working spot in Memphis. Prior to opening, we have many questions to see if this will work here in Memphis. Many of the questions we have have been discussed here. I'm sure each of you had questions before you opened. Since this is a very sharp and active group, we thought what better place to get our answers. Questions include How did you determine the square footage you would need, Did you have to have signed membership agreements to get financing, How did you do market research and get numbers to model business projections, How did you determine your price points, ect... Ideally we'd love to talk with a few of you by phone to get a better understanding. If you wouldn't mind us speaking with you about this, please email me your phone number to math...@gmail.com. If not, you can just respond to this thread. Thanks so much, Mathis Young -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Introduction
As a follow up to a question you DIDN'T ask (I think we need a coworking Rarely Asked Questions as much as we need a coworking Frequently Asked Questions): You and your buddy should think hard about what you want to accomplish with the coworking space, and try to make that story something that others in memphis can write themselves into. It's an extremely effective way to kickstart that member research, because a story with a mission that others can participate in is a honeypot for more people like you. As an example of what I'm talking about, IndyHall's original battle cry was Because working alone sucks. People who agreed, latched on. But once we were no longer working alone, we needed a stronger positive statement. We operate on the core mission of *making Philadelphia* *a better place to make a living doing what you love.* The group that self selects alignment with this mission is an amazing group to be surrounded by. And, it's not limited to members. It's helped us align with local businesses, universities, organizations - even city hall - because they know what our higher purpose is and that it's something they want to contribute to. The higher purpose of your new business might not come right away. But seeking it should start now, if it hasn't already. Even the process of discovering it is a very useful and healthy process to go through in determining what your priorities are, something that makes decision making * so* much easier down the road. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote: How did you determine the square footage you would need We worked backwards from a real estate model and focused on a membership model - we knew how many members at certain price points we were going to have, and had estimates of how those memberships might grow. We also knew the general vicinity of where people wanted to gather. By taking # of people we had at each price point X $ at each price point, we were able to determine how much rent we could sustain out of the gate. Our growth estimates gave us an idea of what that number might be in 3, 6, and 12 months. Our numbers put us at a comfortable sustaining of $2k/month rent inside of 3 months. So the goal became to find something that was ~$2k, provided enough room for the people we already found + room for growth. That was looking to be ~2000 square feet We knew the neighborhood, so we also knew the approx local cost per square foot. We were able to start searching - with the assistance of our prospective members - for $2k spaces ~2000 square feet. 2 years later we grew into a space 3x the size, and the basic same math was applied - here's how many memberships at each level will bring us a certain amount of revenue, here's how much space we need, here's where they intersect - let's look for spaces in that intersection. Did you have to have signed membership agreements to get financing We had signed membership agreements and accepted membership payments for up to 6 months of prepay to give us cash in the bank runway. We opened with zero external financing. $10k of my own money + ~$5k in upfront membership dues. How did you do market research Go outside. Talk to people. Especially people behind laptops who are by themselves. Find out what's great about their work life, find out what sucks. Look for patterns. Fill gaps. and get numbers to model business projections Start with finding your membership before you worry about space, those numbers will hand themselves over to you. How did you determine your price points, ect... Talk to those prospective members - try to determine how much do they think you'll want to be at the coworking space (ask how often they work outside of their house already) What other memberships or business products do they for? Get a feel for their spending patterns - present options for price points before they're set in stone to get feedback. Never be afraid to adjust. Most importantly, look *past* what they say for examples of what they *do*. That's the source of quality market research information. Ideally we'd love to talk with a few of you by phone to get a better understanding. If you wouldn't mind us speaking with you about this, please email me your phone number to math...@gmail.com. If not, you can just respond to this thread. Thanks so much, Mathis Young -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To
[Coworking] Re: Sample membership agreements?
We have various sample documents, including lease and license agreements, here: http://socialinnovation.ca/sssi. I will try to add the docs, or at least the link, to the Wiki... Eli Malinsky Centre for Social Innovation Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Lessons learned from failing?
I’m sure many of us who haven’t started our coworking space yet, or are in the early stages, would love to learn from those spaces who have sadly run their course. What lessons did you have to learn the hard way? What caused your spaces to fail? What pitfalls can we avoid? Thank you! -- David Clinton III -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Lessons learned from failing?
I have just started but learning from mistakes. My first lessons relate to choice of location, bootstrapping with minimal investments and partnerships with investors. Early stages yet and have not quit despite odds. I know it will improve as I find more support and participation. I hope to learn from shared lessons here. Thank you David for asking this question. Gunasekar Coworking Delhi Twitter : @cowoindia http://twitter.com/#!/cowoindia Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/cowoindia Email: code...@methodlabs.in On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:16 PM, David Clinton III d...@me.com wrote: I’m sure many of us who haven’t started our coworking space yet, or are in the early stages, would love to learn from those spaces who have sadly run their course. What lessons did you have to learn the hard way? What caused your spaces to fail? What pitfalls can we avoid? Thank you! -- *David Clinton III* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Lessons learned from failing?
This would be a good topic for those attending the Coworking Owners' weekend retreat in Oct in LA to discuss: how we mentor new coworking facilities; how we learn from those who sell, close, fail, or otherwise move on. Jerome On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:46 AM, David Clinton III d...@me.com wrote: I’m sure many of us who haven’t started our coworking space yet, or are in the early stages, would love to learn from those spaces who have sadly run their course. What lessons did you have to learn the hard way? What caused your spaces to fail? What pitfalls can we avoid? Thank you! -- David Clinton III -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Lessons learned from failing?
Great idea. Can we compile a list of efforts that have actually ended, or even come close? Seems like an excellent wiki page. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.comwrote: This would be a good topic for those attending the Coworking Owners' weekend retreat in Oct in LA to discuss: how we mentor new coworking facilities; how we learn from those who sell, close, fail, or otherwise move on. Jerome On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:46 AM, David Clinton III d...@me.com wrote: I’m sure many of us who haven’t started our coworking space yet, or are in the early stages, would love to learn from those spaces who have sadly run their course. What lessons did you have to learn the hard way? What caused your spaces to fail? What pitfalls can we avoid? Thank you! -- *David Clinton III* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] full circle
awesome! Congrats! Any eta on new cities? Such as Denver. Lot of spaces here, and as a techy I love the rent via app idea. John Wilker Founder, 360|Conferences twitter: jwilker http://twitter.com/jwilker johnwilker.com | Ignite Denver http://ignitedenver.org| Denwherehttp://denwhere.com| 360|Flex http://360flex.com | 360|iDev http://360idev.com “A goal is not always meant to be reached, it often serves simply as something to aim at.” ~ Bruce Lee On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Mark Gilbreath mfgilbre...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Y'all As many of you know, I have a serial coworking problem. There, I've admitted it. My first coworking foray (VengaWorks) in Boise Idaho suffered an early end of life after launching in what turned out to be a so/so location and incredibly bad market timing (Nov '08). But it was a fail forward experience. The lessons learned from our operational experience with VengaWorks were the inspiration for LiquidSpace. We were thrilled to launch a major new LiquidSpacehttp://www.liquidspace.comrelease today with a slew of features inspired by direct input from our coworking friends (thank you - you know who you are - please keep challenging us). One new feature in particular that I wanted this group to hear about directly, is the ability to self administer your basic listing in LiquidSpace. Follow this linkhttps://www.liquidspaceapp.com/venuelisting/createand in a few minutes your space can be live in the LiquidSpace mobile and web app. More great stuff coming. ...oh and by the way, we are diving back into the Cowork (just can't get it out of our system). Our engineering team in Minneapolis has launched AnoCo, a terrific new cowork space in Anoka Minnesota (the self proclaimed Halloween capital of the world). Book a visit through LiquidSpace and come hang with us. Thanks Mark mark@liquidspace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Lessons learned from failing?
Fail. Forward. Fast. http://www.smallbizsurvival.com/2006/04/failure-quote-of-day-fail-forward-fast.html On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:46 AM, David Clinton III d...@me.com wrote: I’m sure many of us who haven’t started our coworking space yet, or are in the early stages, would love to learn from those spaces who have sadly run their course. What lessons did you have to learn the hard way? What caused your spaces to fail? What pitfalls can we avoid? Thank you! -- *David Clinton III* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: full circle
Mark: Ok, I'll bite:). Why is Anoka the Halloween capital of the world? Steve On Aug 3, 9:34 pm, Mark Gilbreath mfgilbre...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Y'all As many of you know, I have a serial coworking problem. There, I've admitted it. My first coworking foray (VengaWorks) in Boise Idaho suffered an early end of life after launching in what turned out to be a so/so location and incredibly bad market timing (Nov '08). But it was a fail forward experience. The lessons learned from our operational experience with VengaWorks were the inspiration for LiquidSpace. We were thrilled to launch a major new LiquidSpacehttp://www.liquidspace.comrelease today with a slew of features inspired by direct input from our coworking friends (thank you - you know who you are - please keep challenging us). One new feature in particular that I wanted this group to hear about directly, is the ability to self administer your basic listing in LiquidSpace. Follow this linkhttps://www.liquidspaceapp.com/venuelisting/createand in a few minutes your space can be live in the LiquidSpace mobile and web app. More great stuff coming. ...oh and by the way, we are diving back into the Cowork (just can't get it out of our system). Our engineering team in Minneapolis has launched AnoCo, a terrific new cowork space in Anoka Minnesota (the self proclaimed Halloween capital of the world). Book a visit through LiquidSpace and come hang with us. Thanks Mark mark@liquidspace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Thank You to this amazing Coworking Community!
I just wanted to say thanks to this wonderful coworking community. My team and I embarked on a journey 2 months ago to create a business plan for a coworking space for our Capstone class in Graduate School @ Texas Woman's University in Houston. Although there were some minor hiccups, for the most part our professor was happy with our final product. We could not have done this without the openness and support of this coworking community. We want to thank eveyone who has posted on this site in the past two months. (or ever) We would especially like to thank the following for their insightful suggestions and feedback: Jacob Sayles (Office Nomads) Matthew Wettergreen (Caroline Collective) Liz Elam (Link) Angela Valavanis (Creative Coworking) Angel Kwiatkowski (Cohere) Jerome Chang (blankspaces) Mark Gilbreath If I left anyone off, I apologize, we thank you too! Leena C -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] full circle
John Our focus these past couple months has been on the Bay Area, however with this new release the world is open for business and any space owner/operator anywhere can create a basic listing in LiquidSpace (it was a kick waking this morning to see a new listing in Phuket!). Thats the first easy step and its now a self service capability on our site. If you or others wish to turn on the full workspace booking capability so your members and new prospects can locate and book your space via mobile or web, we will work with you directly to take that final step (this too will soon be self-service) Help us spread the word up and down the front range and beyond. Best Mark On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:37 AM, john.wil...@gmail.com john.wil...@gmail.com wrote: awesome! Congrats! Any eta on new cities? Such as Denver. Lot of spaces here, and as a techy I love the rent via app idea. John Wilker Founder, 360|Conferences twitter: jwilker http://twitter.com/jwilker johnwilker.com | Ignite Denver http://ignitedenver.org| Denwherehttp://denwhere.com| 360|Flex http://360flex.com | 360|iDev http://360idev.com “A goal is not always meant to be reached, it often serves simply as something to aim at.” ~ Bruce Lee On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Mark Gilbreath mfgilbre...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Y'all As many of you know, I have a serial coworking problem. There, I've admitted it. My first coworking foray (VengaWorks) in Boise Idaho suffered an early end of life after launching in what turned out to be a so/so location and incredibly bad market timing (Nov '08). But it was a fail forward experience. The lessons learned from our operational experience with VengaWorks were the inspiration for LiquidSpace. We were thrilled to launch a major new LiquidSpacehttp://www.liquidspace.comrelease today with a slew of features inspired by direct input from our coworking friends (thank you - you know who you are - please keep challenging us). One new feature in particular that I wanted this group to hear about directly, is the ability to self administer your basic listing in LiquidSpace. Follow this linkhttps://www.liquidspaceapp.com/venuelisting/createand in a few minutes your space can be live in the LiquidSpace mobile and web app. More great stuff coming. ...oh and by the way, we are diving back into the Cowork (just can't get it out of our system). Our engineering team in Minneapolis has launched AnoCo, a terrific new cowork space in Anoka Minnesota (the self proclaimed Halloween capital of the world). Book a visit through LiquidSpace and come hang with us. Thanks Mark mark@liquidspace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: full circle
Ha! That wasn't meant to be a tease John. Anoka truly declares itself to be the Halloween Capital of the World, and I can vouch for the sign that greets you with that message as you roll across the bridge into town. I'll pass the question to our Senior Anoka Historian Scott Colestock (aka our Dir of Platform Engineering).Scott - whats the word on this? On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:58 AM, sk...@emergentresearch.com sk...@emergentresearch.com wrote: Mark: Ok, I'll bite:). Why is Anoka the Halloween capital of the world? Steve On Aug 3, 9:34 pm, Mark Gilbreath mfgilbre...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Y'all As many of you know, I have a serial coworking problem. There, I've admitted it. My first coworking foray (VengaWorks) in Boise Idaho suffered an early end of life after launching in what turned out to be a so/so location and incredibly bad market timing (Nov '08). But it was a fail forward experience. The lessons learned from our operational experience with VengaWorks were the inspiration for LiquidSpace. We were thrilled to launch a major new LiquidSpacehttp://www.liquidspace.comrelease today with a slew of features inspired by direct input from our coworking friends (thank you - you know who you are - please keep challenging us). One new feature in particular that I wanted this group to hear about directly, is the ability to self administer your basic listing in LiquidSpace. Follow this linkhttps://www.liquidspaceapp.com/venuelisting/createand in a few minutes your space can be live in the LiquidSpace mobile and web app. More great stuff coming. ...oh and by the way, we are diving back into the Cowork (just can't get it out of our system). Our engineering team in Minneapolis has launched AnoCo, a terrific new cowork space in Anoka Minnesota (the self proclaimed Halloween capital of the world). Book a visit through LiquidSpace and come hang with us. Thanks Mark mark@liquidspace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Coworking Day 2011
So, the bridge thing I proposed won't work with the mobile call ins- YET. They are working on it as we speak. In the mean time, is there a consolidated list of everything that is going on for coworking day? I'd like to do a blog post on our company site and maybe have a list of all the coworking activities taking place. On Aug 3, 10:49 am, gravysd ksvier...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, we're seeing if we can swing coworking at the beach for coworking day next week since san diego is all about sun! anyone have any contacts they can pass on for sponsored wifi hosting (to become a hot spot). we're looking into who coworking seattle used (clear) but don't think they have coverage down here. thanks! kimwww.gravysd.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] beginner questions
I have just started Coworking delhi without investing anything yet. My questions to experienced people here is: what is the profile of the people who co work in each center? Are most of them in a center in related professions? Or Are they diverse and unitied only by virtue of the location of the center? Should a coworking center target people from specific professions initially? i look forward to learning from you. guna Coworking Delhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: New Co-Working Space in London
Katie, Congratulations on the space. I launched Suite133 in Tacoma, Washington back in 2007. Now, however, I split my time between Tacoma and London. I'll be back next week and will try to check out what you have to offer. We'll talk soon. Derek On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Jaime Aranda jas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Katie! Hello, from hot Seville, south Spain. Congratulations!!! Nice web! I like your spaces and style. I will stay in London from 9th to 31th August for an english course in Oxford St so I will be very close to your place everyday. We are launching in September the first coworking space in Seville ( www.workINcompany.com ) so it will be great to visit your space and spend some time talking and sharing ideas. We'll keep in touch. Jaime On 27 jul, 15:11, Katie Butler katie.ek.but...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi there coworkers! I just wanted to share with you a great new co-working space that's opened in London. Central (www.centralworking.com), just off Tottenham Court Road, combines a friendly, street facing coffee bar with an innovative co-working space. With two main co-working spaces, there are plenty of co-working tables, individual desks and sofa areas. Central's main focus is collaboration; at least 5 collaborative events take place each month, all of which are free. This month there's a great event on Silicon Valley and another interesting one on Social Media and how to use it for business success. Membership starts at £35, a bargin for Central London. Have a look at the website link and let me know what you think. It's always great to get feedback about co-working ventures as everyone has a different idea about how they could work better. Thanks! Katie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Ghost Businesses ...
Hmmm, that sounds annoying. I would contact the companies and ask them to buy membership to continue to use the physical address. Despite what the attorney says, I wouldn't want any company using my business as their front. It seems shady plus it creates an awkward situation for you every time someone comes in looking for them. Angel On Aug 4, 12:19 pm, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.comwrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
Virtual offices are legal - but the services don't fit the core values of coworking without some weird bending reality. Our focus is on community workspaces. People who never show up *aren't community members*. If they want a service like a virtual office - there's companies that do that. I don't think coworking should be confused with this service though. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.comwrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
We have had that happen several times...resulting in mail coming to us. Up until now, I had been writing on the letters that come in (like the person's business license) Return to Sender and just giving it back to the postal person. However, a coworker says I should just put them in the circular file...I am thinking of that option. He says we are under no obligation to keep the mail, or send it back. Mike On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote: Virtual offices are legal - but the services don't fit the core values of coworking without some weird bending reality. Our focus is on community workspaces. People who never show up *aren't community members*. If they want a service like a virtual office - there's companies that do that. I don't think coworking should be confused with this service though. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.comwrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- Donate $1.00 to the Carol Phan Dollars for Scholars College Scholarship Fund and help us help a Tracy, CA student go to college. http://forcarol.wordpress.com/carol-phan-scholarship-fund/ Mike Pihlman AltamontCowork / ForCarol.com, Inc. 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 205 Tracy, CA 95376 Phone: 209-757-8862 Web: http://AltamontCowork.com http://altamontcowork.com/ Twitter: @AltamontCowork Facebook: http://Facebook.com/AltamontCoworkhttp://facebook.com/AltamontCowork Drive Safe! Never
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
How does everybody handle the mail delivery itself? Do you notify people that they have mail or is it their responsibility to check for new mail when the come in? The latter is our approach - we do basic sorting but that's it. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.comwrote: We have had that happen several times...resulting in mail coming to us. Up until now, I had been writing on the letters that come in (like the person's business license) Return to Sender and just giving it back to the postal person. However, a coworker says I should just put them in the circular file...I am thinking of that option. He says we are under no obligation to keep the mail, or send it back. Mike On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Virtual offices are legal - but the services don't fit the core values of coworking without some weird bending reality. Our focus is on community workspaces. People who never show up *aren't community members*. If they want a service like a virtual office - there's companies that do that. I don't think coworking should be confused with this service though. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.comwrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- Donate $1.00 to the Carol Phan Dollars for Scholars College Scholarship Fund and help us help a Tracy,
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
I write an email to each person who gets mail that day: You Got Mail :-) On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote: How does everybody handle the mail delivery itself? Do you notify people that they have mail or is it their responsibility to check for new mail when the come in? The latter is our approach - we do basic sorting but that's it. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.comwrote: We have had that happen several times...resulting in mail coming to us. Up until now, I had been writing on the letters that come in (like the person's business license) Return to Sender and just giving it back to the postal person. However, a coworker says I should just put them in the circular file...I am thinking of that option. He says we are under no obligation to keep the mail, or send it back. Mike On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Virtual offices are legal - but the services don't fit the core values of coworking without some weird bending reality. Our focus is on community workspaces. People who never show up *aren't community members*. If they want a service like a virtual office - there's companies that do that. I don't think coworking should be confused with this service though. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.comwrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
Derek! So glad to see you writing in, and so glad to hear that Suite133 is still rockin'. We need to coordinate another field trip! Anyway, I'd definitely try to get in touch with the folks using your address as their own without actually being members. It's just shady and they need to know you've noticed. Sending back mail is one thing, but sending the message that what they're doing isn't cool is another. Yes, it requires you to do more work, which sucks. But if it were me that's what I'd do. Best of luck, and hope to see you around soon. Susan __ Office Nomads officenomads.com 206-484-5859 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Derek Young de...@exit133.com wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
ha! that's cute! -- Tm Mahdi Director Founder, Cg6 Inc. unlocking the creative markets. toronto: studio 207 - 201 weston road, ontario m6n 3p1 canada | http://twitter.com/Cg6Inc co | 1416.238.6881 w | www.cg6.com my | cvfolio.cg6.com/ tm.mahdi/ | about.me/tm.mahdi e | tm.ma...@cg6.com get your own Movable Ink On 4-Aug-11, at 4:11 PM, Mike Pihlman wrote: I write an email to each person who gets mail that day: You Got Mail :-) On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: How does everybody handle the mail delivery itself? Do you notify people that they have mail or is it their responsibility to check for new mail when the come in? The latter is our approach - we do basic sorting but that's it. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.com wrote: We have had that happen several times...resulting in mail coming to us. Up until now, I had been writing on the letters that come in (like the person's business license) Return to Sender and just giving it back to the postal person. However, a coworker says I should just put them in the circular file...I am thinking of that option. He says we are under no obligation to keep the mail, or send it back. Mike On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Virtual offices are legal - but the services don't fit the core values of coworking without some weird bending reality. Our focus is on community workspaces. People who never show up aren't community members. If they want a service like a virtual office - there's companies that do that. I don't think coworking should be confused with this service though. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
I recently moved from the US to the UK and used a mail forwarding service, they scan your mail, email you and post an envelope scan online. You can then choose to scan, forward or shred. They won't forward credit cards or bank statements https://www.mailboxforwarding.com - seems like a ok business. A few companies do it but it can be pretty expensive. Karl On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.comwrote: OhI then either put it in their cubby, on their desk (if they claimed one), or in a slot in a mail sorter thingy. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.comwrote: I write an email to each person who gets mail that day: You Got Mail :-) On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: How does everybody handle the mail delivery itself? Do you notify people that they have mail or is it their responsibility to check for new mail when the come in? The latter is our approach - we do basic sorting but that's it. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.com wrote: We have had that happen several times...resulting in mail coming to us. Up until now, I had been writing on the letters that come in (like the person's business license) Return to Sender and just giving it back to the postal person. However, a coworker says I should just put them in the circular file...I am thinking of that option. He says we are under no obligation to keep the mail, or send it back. Mike On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Virtual offices are legal - but the services don't fit the core values of coworking without some weird bending reality. Our focus is on community workspaces. People who never show up *aren't community members*. If they want a service like a virtual office - there's companies that do that. I don't think coworking should be confused with this service though. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
Thank you for the input. We'll figure something out the next time we're reminded of these pseudo-business members. re: mail - We sort the mail as it comes in. If it looks like a check and the member doesn't visit on a regular schedule, we MAY send an email. Let's just say that we don't exactly have a formal process. Susan - Let's definitely connect sometime before I leave town. Suite133 is here. Our company took it over from my original partners when we outgrew our own business model. Same space. A few difference faces. Derek On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: I recently moved from the US to the UK and used a mail forwarding service, they scan your mail, email you and post an envelope scan online. You can then choose to scan, forward or shred. They won't forward credit cards or bank statements https://www.mailboxforwarding.com - seems like a ok business. A few companies do it but it can be pretty expensive. Karl On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.comwrote: OhI then either put it in their cubby, on their desk (if they claimed one), or in a slot in a mail sorter thingy. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.comwrote: I write an email to each person who gets mail that day: You Got Mail :-) On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: How does everybody handle the mail delivery itself? Do you notify people that they have mail or is it their responsibility to check for new mail when the come in? The latter is our approach - we do basic sorting but that's it. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.com wrote: We have had that happen several times...resulting in mail coming to us. Up until now, I had been writing on the letters that come in (like the person's business license) Return to Sender and just giving it back to the postal person. However, a coworker says I should just put them in the circular file...I am thinking of that option. He says we are under no obligation to keep the mail, or send it back. Mike On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Virtual offices are legal - but the services don't fit the core values of coworking without some weird bending reality. Our focus is on community workspaces. People who never show up *aren't community members*. If they want a service like a virtual office - there's companies that do that. I don't think coworking should be confused with this service though. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received
RE: [Coworking] Re: Ghost Businesses ...
You also have to be careful, I had a member list their business on Google with my address. Google flagged me a potentially shady and took me off google maps for 2 months while they thought about it. Liz -Original Message- From: coworking@googlegroups.com [mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angel Kwiatkowski Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:05 PM To: Coworking Subject: [Coworking] Re: Ghost Businesses ... Hmmm, that sounds annoying. I would contact the companies and ask them to buy membership to continue to use the physical address. Despite what the attorney says, I wouldn't want any company using my business as their front. It seems shady plus it creates an awkward situation for you every time someone comes in looking for them. Angel On Aug 4, 12:19 pm, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Ghost Businesses ...
In Santa Cruz we sort the mail and deliver it to the peeps who have dedicated workspaces. For our Cafe members we keep their mail in a big file cabinet, divided into files per member. We email them once a week to let them know they have mail. One of my favorite things to do during the day is deliver mail to members. It's a nice feeling to see the smiles when I hand them a check and it's also nice to get to say hi for that brief moment :) ~ iris @iriskavanagh nextspace.us On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Alex Hillman wrote: How does everybody handle the mail delivery itself? Do you notify people that they have mail or is it their responsibility to check for new mail when the come in? The latter is our approach - we do basic sorting but that's it. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Mike Pihlman telbitconsult...@gmail.com wrote: We have had that happen several times...resulting in mail coming to us. Up until now, I had been writing on the letters that come in (like the person's business license) Return to Sender and just giving it back to the postal person. However, a coworker says I should just put them in the circular file...I am thinking of that option. He says we are under no obligation to keep the mail, or send it back. Mike On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Virtual offices are legal - but the services don't fit the core values of coworking without some weird bending reality. Our focus is on community workspaces. People who never show up aren't community members. If they want a service like a virtual office - there's companies that do that. I don't think coworking should be confused with this service though. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Karl Long k...@karllong.com wrote: now that's some savvy marketing right there :) There should of course be a special fee for people who do such a thing. I don't think there should be legal issues if virtual offices are legal, certainly no problem in London. K -- @karllong http://experiencecurve.com On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: We first see if they've listed themselves at our address on Google Places, then contact them, then either return to sender or sometimes have them get a membership! Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Derek Young wrote: Hello Wise Co-Working Friends, It's been way too long since I've participated with this group. Suite133 is still here and growing. We may be neglecting our coworking community duties, website, and self-promotion, but we are still here. Here's my question for you. Have any of you had companies register your address as their own without actually being a member? In the four years that we've been around, this has happened twice. First it was a limousine company. Then it was an alarm company. We first discovered it when someone dropped into our office to look for one of the companies. A few web searches later and we discovered our address all over the interwebs and in business license filings that were not related to us. At first we got rather worked up about it. Our attorney, however, told us to not worry about it as there was no actual harm being done to our business. So, just the other day a few more people dropped in to see someone about an alarm system. Again, our attorney (who has a desk here) tells us that this is a problem for state/city government types that handle licensing and not us. I'm curious. Have any of you run into this before? If so, what did you do? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you, Derek Young Suite133 - Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to
[Coworking] Re: full circle
Mark: Glad you were able to re-start and satisfy your serial coworking urgings. What are you doing the same? What are you doing differentely with AnoCo (as compared to your previous coworking venture in Boise? Jasper On Aug 3, 10:34 pm, Mark Gilbreath mfgilbre...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Y'all As many of you know, I have a serial coworking problem. There, I've admitted it. My first coworking foray (VengaWorks) in Boise Idaho suffered an early end of life after launching in what turned out to be a so/so location and incredibly bad market timing (Nov '08). But it was a fail forward experience. The lessons learned from our operational experience with VengaWorks were the inspiration for LiquidSpace. We were thrilled to launch a major new LiquidSpacehttp://www.liquidspace.comrelease today with a slew of features inspired by direct input from our coworking friends (thank you - you know who you are - please keep challenging us). One new feature in particular that I wanted this group to hear about directly, is the ability to self administer your basic listing in LiquidSpace. Follow this linkhttps://www.liquidspaceapp.com/venuelisting/createand in a few minutes your space can be live in the LiquidSpace mobile and web app. More great stuff coming. ...oh and by the way, we are diving back into the Cowork (just can't get it out of our system). Our engineering team in Minneapolis has launched AnoCo, a terrific new cowork space in Anoka Minnesota (the self proclaimed Halloween capital of the world). Book a visit through LiquidSpace and come hang with us. Thanks Mark mark@liquidspace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Sample membership agreements?
John: Jasper here from Durango, CO, where Nancy Wharton I co-manage DurangoSpace LLC http://durangospace.com We are using an Acceptable Use Policy approach, vs. a membership agreement. I guess they are similar docs along the continuum. Just drop us an e- mail, and will send a copy. Jasper Jasper Welch Nancy Wharton DurangoSpace LLC http://durangospace.com On Aug 3, 10:32 am, john.wil...@gmail.com john.wil...@gmail.com wrote: I looked in a wiki though I might have missed it. Are there any sample membership agreements out there? Now that we're ready to take on members, and have people asking for agreements, guess it's time to get that done, LOL THanks guys! John Wilker Founder, 360|Conferences twitter: jwilker http://twitter.com/jwilker johnwilker.com | Ignite Denver http://ignitedenver.org| Denwherehttp://denwhere.com| 360|Flex http://360flex.com | 360|iDev http://360idev.com “A goal is not always meant to be reached, it often serves simply as something to aim at.” ~ Bruce Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: space costing
Chad: We researched this as we worked on DurangoSpace (prior to our Feb 1st opening this year). Here are the rules of thumb we came across: For each coworker, you need about 100 SF, so our 2,600 SF DurangoSpace facility can handle about 20 to 25 people (coworking, meetings, casual space).And the usage rate, is about 3:1 or 2:1. So for 2,600SF, you can service 40 to 50 members, depending on how crowded or empty you are managing the space.Research show coworking or shared space occupation rates at 35% to 50% of members using the coworking space on any given day. For hard break even, we are using gross rent X 1.5 (to cover rent and utilities and basic costs).To make money we are figuring gross rent X 2.5 to 3.5.So how are we doing so far?Some months we have barely made rent and dug into start up funds for utilities. Last month we turned a small profit, but we still have a ways to go. Our pricing (see our web site), based on the formulas above: Daily Pass=$20/day 5-day (5% off), 10-day (10% off), 15-day (20%off) These are open spaces Monthly daily membership at $225/month, with a 24/7 at $265/month Semi-private (2 members per closed or private office) would be at $365/month. And we rent our private meeting and conference room space at member and non-member rates. Hope this helps... Jasper Jasper Welch Nancy Wharton DurangoSpace LLC http://durangospace.com On Jul 27, 10:26 am, Chad Ballantyne c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Hi All, We've been doing open space membership plans for a while and now we're moving to closed office options. Right now a full-time member for an open desk is $300/mth Works out to $6/sf But a closed office adds more value and how best to figure that out. Does anyone have a formula to calculate? Another factor is multiple staff. We know what we need to pay for the space, but wondered if there's a formula out there to add our specific costs (lease, expenses, management, etc) and therefor communicate cleary to potential members the difference between open space and closed office. Thanks! Chad Ballantyne The Creative Space Director (705) 252-2423www.thecreativespace.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Milking your Opening as long as possible, Jasper
Josh: We milked our opening for about 4 months, as we need all the publicity we could get. So a pre-launch reception for invited list to check out space (January 2011) A soft opening, with minimal fanfare in early Feb 2011, and we landed a follow up story from local paper A formal grand opening (complete with adult beverages, food and festive atmosphere) on April 21, 2011. We wanted a 3 month shake down cruise before we went fully live. A ribbon cutting by the local Chamber on June 10th, at which time we had milked the opening events for all we could! Jasper DurangoSpace, LLC http://durangospace.com On Jul 18, 3:28 pm, Josh joshuahil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, My name is Josh Hill and I am the director of the Blue Ocean Innovation Center in Bozeman, Montana. I have been reading these old posts and they are very helpful. I think it is amazing that a group like this can and does exist. I could use some help on what to do for a launch party? I plan to have our center opened next month and have generated a lot of buzz but I am not sure what to actually do that will bring people in the doors. Any thoughts our experiences? Thanks so much, :) Josh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Office Space (restrooms)
Jonathan: For our 2600 SF DurangoSpace facility we have one restroom.That is adequate, but for larger meetings (we can seat up to 25 in our main workroom, if it is morphed into a conference room), one restroom gets dicey. So we pre-clean, during the meeting clean and post-clean. On several occasions, we'd have plumbing back ups (always when lots of folks at DurangoSpace). So have a back up next door or across te street! Jasper DurangoSpace, LLC http://durangospace.com On Jul 22, 10:42 am, jonathonknox jpknox...@gmail.com wrote: We are looking at office space in Riverside California and I have a couple questions I was hoping you guys could help. One of the spaces we really like is about 2000 sq ft. with a great layout however it only has 1 restroom. Is one restroom sufficient for a coworking space? Reading the New York Times post on coworking I noticed that one of the spaces was partially subsidized by the city does anyone else have a lease that is subsidized? Is this a good option? Thanks for the help! Thanks, Jonathon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: What kind of coffee maker does your space use?
Angel: Hello from Durango.Let's face it, Durango is becoming famous for craft beer and locally roasted coffee. And one of my consulting clients (my other job) is a locally based coffee roaster (Desert Sun Coffee) www.desertsuncoffee.com So that is what we use exclusively. So you need to start with locally roasted fresh coffee...DSCR organic and fair trade is a plus. Glen and Erick really support us! We had Desert Sun install a commercial drip Bunn brewer, with plumbed in water and a filter. Below, Pat points out that cheap coffee (like grocery store ground), unfiltered water, dirty decanters equals bad coffee.I'd add that locally roasted and just ground really makes for better coffee.But since we purchase in 2# bags, we have Desert Sun grind for us, which is more convenient. Our Bunn brewer is a preheated (at 197 degrees) one button push operation. Simple, sweet and perfect coffee.And we have 2 Airpots, so the coffee stays hot and fresh most of the day.Good beans, local roast, freshly ground, filtered water, drip coffee into a Airpot will combine for coffee that supports your coworking brand. And we co-brand with Desert Sun, because folks (in Durango) know their coffee is good. And it supports the DurangoSpace brand. Yours for good coffee, Jasper Jasper Welch DurangoSpace, LLC http://durangospace.com On Jul 21, 1:00 pm, Angel Kwiatkowski fccowork...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pondering an upgrade to a commercial coffee maker but I don't want our coffee to taste like the Burnt Federal Government Coffee I was subjected to at former jobs. What kind of commercial coffee maker do you use for your space, what was the cost AND is it worth it? Angel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] space costing
This is some of the best simple Coworking math I've seen in a single post. It certainly belongs in the wiki. Thanks Jasper! -Alex On Friday, August 5, 2011, Jazzman3 jasperwe...@gmail.com wrote: Chad: We researched this as we worked on DurangoSpace (prior to our Feb 1st opening this year). Here are the rules of thumb we came across: For each coworker, you need about 100 SF, so our 2,600 SF DurangoSpace facility can handle about 20 to 25 people (coworking, meetings, casual space).And the usage rate, is about 3:1 or 2:1. So for 2,600SF, you can service 40 to 50 members, depending on how crowded or empty you are managing the space.Research show coworking or shared space occupation rates at 35% to 50% of members using the coworking space on any given day. For hard break even, we are using gross rent X 1.5 (to cover rent and utilities and basic costs).To make money we are figuring gross rent X 2.5 to 3.5.So how are we doing so far?Some months we have barely made rent and dug into start up funds for utilities. Last month we turned a small profit, but we still have a ways to go. Our pricing (see our web site), based on the formulas above: Daily Pass=$20/day 5-day (5% off), 10-day (10% off), 15-day (20%off) These are open spaces Monthly daily membership at $225/month, with a 24/7 at $265/month Semi-private (2 members per closed or private office) would be at $365/month. And we rent our private meeting and conference room space at member and non-member rates. Hope this helps... Jasper Jasper Welch Nancy Wharton DurangoSpace LLC http://durangospace.com On Jul 27, 10:26 am, Chad Ballantyne c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Hi All, We've been doing open space membership plans for a while and now we're moving to closed office options. Right now a full-time member for an open desk is $300/mth Works out to $6/sf But a closed office adds more value and how best to figure that out. Does anyone have a formula to calculate? Another factor is multiple staff. We know what we need to pay for the space, but wondered if there's a formula out there to add our specific costs (lease, expenses, management, etc) and therefor communicate cleary to potential members the difference between open space and closed office. Thanks! Chad Ballantyne The Creative Space Director (705) 252-2423www.thecreativespace.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
