[Coworking] Open-plan offices were devised by Satan in the deepest caverns of hell - Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian

2013-11-21 Thread Will Bennis, Locus Workspace
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2013/nov/18/open-plan-offices-bad-harvard-business-review

Putting this out there because I suspect what gets posted is generally 
filtered toward the coworking positive. 

While cubicles are the worst, this article is about shortcomings of 
open-plan offices more generally. 

Putting aside the obvious fact that even if open-plan offices aren't for 
everyone, they're certainly preferred by many of us, my existing bias has 
been that most independent workers would do better (in terms of 
psychological health as well as productivity and work quality) over the 
long run in a social work environment than in a private/enclosed office. 
But articles like this make me wonder if that really is just my own bias. 

Most of the findings suggested are contrary to what I would expect for 
independent workers, and I wonder how much the results here may be 
contingent on working in an organization (where being in an open plan 
office also corresponds to being lower in the work hierarchy and where many 
of the people you're working alongside are implicit competitors).

Thoughts? Where does this article go wrong (other than suggesting one size 
fits all)? Does it suggest that ideal coworking space design would work 
include ample opportunities for more private work and more isolated 
collaboration?

Will

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Re: [Coworking] Open-plan offices were devised by Satan in the deepest caverns of hell - Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian

2013-11-21 Thread Alex Hillman
1) if you're good for everyone, you're great for no-one. 




2) earlier this year, noise levels came up as an opportunity for improving Indy 
Hall during one of our own internal research projects. 




Curious for more details, I followed up with a subsequent line of questions: 
where so you believe the noise is coming from? Is it people on their phones, 
people talking to each other at their desks, people talking to each other in 
nearby common areas, or something else entirely?




The results of that question were evenly spread across the options (ha!) but 
the real answer emerged: WAY more people than had mentioned noise issues spoke 
up and said Please don't make Indy Hall more quiet. I come here for the noise. 
I love that buzz. I can't get it anywhere else. If I wanted silence, I'd stay 
at home or go to the library.




3) I've worked on several projects now re: open floor plan implementations in 
corporate settings. Every time it looks like this:




* company spends a boatload of money on design, architects, and furniture

* everybody hates it, rebellion, etc (not unlike the article)

* Alex's phone rings, why isn't this working?




My first question is, well what did you change? The answer is ALWAYS 
environment. It's NEVER anything related to culture, management or 
communication. 




That's the problem. The environment needs to match the culture, the management, 
and the communication. 




Two concrete examples:




A) manager cites that she likes the flexibility of choosing different areas to 
work, but...there's a new problem. I never know where my team is. I spend half 
of my day hunting them down.




The communication and leadership techniques were never given to the team on how 
to effectively check in and report to each other. It's not so much about 
flatness but a network style of communication rather than a hub and spoke 
style. 




B) employees hate the open floor plan. Cite all sorts of things like in the 
article. So I start to dig into the specifics. 




A common pattern emerges: trust. People don't like having people able to walk 
by and see what they're doing. They feel like their manager is hovering more 
(which she may or may not be - the point is the feeling). Someone's always 
looking for a way to get a leg up, or take credit.




Again, a culture issue. Zero work is being done by management or staff to build 
or reinforce trust in the workplace, or worse, they actively do things to chip 
away at trust (this is a huge systemic issue that repeats across basically 
every project I've worked on). 




Without trust, open isn't possible. And  that goes far beyond floor plans. 




That's just a sampling of my own research. I, too, have had my personal biases 
challenged a lot during this work, but continue to discover that the root 
problems are consistent - and have VERY LITTLE to do with space design (a few 
exceptions, I could talk about those another time). The issues are nearly 100% 
caused by pre-existing cultural problems that the space exacerbated, and/or a 
very poor approach to cultural change management to get it in line with the 
new space long before the millions are spent on furniture. 





-Alex









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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace 
wmben...@locusworkspace.com=mailto:wmben...@locusworkspace.com; wrote:


http://www.theguardian.com/news/2013/nov/18/open-plan-offices-bad-harvard-business-review



Putting this out there because I suspect what gets posted is generally filtered 
toward the coworking positive. 





While cubicles are the worst, this article is about shortcomings of open-plan 
offices more generally. 




Putting aside the obvious fact that even if open-plan offices aren't for 
everyone, they're certainly preferred by many of us, my existing bias has been 
that most independent workers would do better (in terms of psychological health 
as well as productivity and work quality) over the long run in a social work 
environment than in a private/enclosed office. But articles like this make me 
wonder if that really is just my own bias. 




Most of the findings suggested are contrary to what I would expect for 
independent workers, and I wonder how much the results here may be contingent 
on working in an organization (where being in an open plan office also 
corresponds to being lower in the work hierarchy and where many of the people 
you're working alongside are implicit competitors).




Thoughts? Where does this article go wrong (other than suggesting one size fits 
all)? Does it suggest that ideal coworking space design would work include 
ample opportunities for more private work and more isolated collaboration?




Will







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Re: [Coworking] Open-plan offices were devised by Satan in the deepest caverns of hell - Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian

2013-11-21 Thread Tom Brandt
And this is not that surprising. It is much easier to change a floorplan,
which merely involves throwing money around, than it is to change a
culture, which is a lot of hard, and frequently uncomfortable, work, on the
part of everyone from the CEO on down. It is hard because it means changing
ingrained habits, and uncomfortable because it forces people to admit that
possibly they were doing it wrong in the past.


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Alex Hillman
dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote:

  1) if you're good for everyone, you're great for no-one.

 2) earlier this year, noise levels came up as an opportunity for improving
 Indy Hall during one of our own internal research projects.

 Curious for more details, I followed up with a subsequent line of
 questions: where so you believe the noise is coming from? Is it people on
 their phones, people talking to each other at their desks, people talking
 to each other in nearby common areas, or something else entirely?

 The results of that question were evenly spread across the options (ha!)
 but the real answer emerged: WAY more people than had mentioned noise
 issues spoke up and said Please don't make Indy Hall more quiet. I come
 here for the noise. I love that buzz. I can't get it anywhere else. If I
 wanted silence, I'd stay at home or go to the library.

 3) I've worked on several projects now re: open floor plan implementations
 in corporate settings. Every time it looks like this:

 * company spends a boatload of money on design, architects, and furniture
 * everybody hates it, rebellion, etc (not unlike the article)
 * Alex's phone rings, why isn't this working?

 My first question is, well what did you change? The answer is ALWAYS
 environment. It's NEVER anything related to culture, management or
 communication.

 That's the problem. The environment needs to match the culture, the
 management, and the communication.

 Two concrete examples:

 A) manager cites that she likes the flexibility of choosing different
 areas to work, but...there's a new problem. I never know where my team is.
 I spend half of my day hunting them down.

 The communication and leadership techniques were never given to the team
 on how to effectively check in and report to each other. It's not so much
 about flatness but a network style of communication rather than a hub
 and spoke style.

 B) employees hate the open floor plan. Cite all sorts of things like in
 the article. So I start to dig into the specifics.

 A common pattern emerges: trust. People don't like having people able to
 walk by and see what they're doing. They feel like their manager is
 hovering more (which she may or may not be - the point is the feeling).
 Someone's always looking for a way to get a leg up, or take credit.

 Again, a culture issue. Zero work is being done by management or staff to
 build or reinforce trust in the workplace, or worse, they actively do
 things to chip away at trust (this is a huge systemic issue that repeats
 across basically every project I've worked on).

 Without trust, open isn't possible. And  that goes far beyond floor
 plans.

 That's just a sampling of my own research. I, too, have had my personal
 biases challenged a lot during this work, but continue to discover that the
 root problems are consistent - and have VERY LITTLE to do with space design
 (a few exceptions, I could talk about those another time). The issues are
 nearly 100% caused by pre-existing cultural problems that the space
 exacerbated, and/or a very poor approach to cultural change management to
 get it in line with the new space long before the millions are spent on
 furniture.



 -Alex
  

 --
 /ah
 indyhall.org
 betterwork.co

 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace 
 wmben...@locusworkspace.com=mailto:wmben...@locusworkspace.com; wrote:


 http://www.theguardian.com/news/2013/nov/18/open-plan-offices-bad-harvard-business-review

 Putting this out there because I suspect what gets posted is generally
 filtered toward the coworking positive.

 While cubicles are the worst, this article is about shortcomings of
 open-plan offices more generally.

 Putting aside the obvious fact that even if open-plan offices aren't for
 everyone, they're certainly preferred by many of us, my existing bias has
 been that most independent workers would do better (in terms of
 psychological health as well as productivity and work quality) over the
 long run in a social work environment than in a private/enclosed office.
 But articles like this make me wonder if that really is just my own bias.

 Most of the findings suggested are contrary to what I would expect for
 independent workers, and I wonder how much the results here may be
 contingent on working in an organization (where being in an open plan
 office also corresponds to being lower in the work hierarchy and where many
 of the people you're working alongside are implicit competitors).

 Thoughts? Where does this article go wrong 

Re: [Coworking] Open-plan offices were devised by Satan in the deepest caverns of hell - Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian

2013-11-21 Thread Randall G. Arnold

 
  
   Best environment I ever worked in was *mostly* open... very low partitions. In our case (Nokia service office), people adjusted and noise of any kind was never an issue. We had glass-walled rooms around the perimeter for meetings, etc. Amazingly enough, we had a high number of introverts (including myself) who Ive usually seen complain about this sort of setup-- none did. I thoroughly enjoyed the opportunity to see other human beings instead of being surrounded by a grey maze.
   
  
   
   
  
   As far as noise, in the tech world you get a lot of people talking OVER the high cube walls, so...
   
  
   
   
  
   Randy
   
  
   
   
  
   On November 21, 2013 at 3:56 AM Will Bennis, Locus Workspace wmben...@locusworkspace.com wrote:
   

   
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2013/nov/18/open-plan-offices-bad-harvard-business-review
 

 
 

 Putting this out there because I suspect what gets posted is generally filtered toward the coworking positive.
 

 
 

 While cubicles are the worst, this article is about shortcomings of open-plan offices more generally.
 

 
 

 Putting aside the obvious fact that even if open-plan offices arent for everyone, theyre certainly preferred by many of us, my existing bias has been that most independent workers would do better (in terms of psychological health as well as productivity and work quality) over the long run in a social work environment than in a private/enclosed office. But articles like this make me wonder if that really is just my own bias.
 

 
 

 Most of the findings suggested are contrary to what I would expect for independent workers, and I wonder how much the results here may be contingent on working in an organization (where being in an open plan office also corresponds to being lower in the work hierarchy and where many of the people youre working alongside are implicit competitors).
 

 
 

 Thoughts? Where does this article go wrong (other than suggesting one size fits all)? Does it suggest that ideal coworking space design would work include ample opportunities for more private work and more isolated collaboration?
 

 
 

 Will
 

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Open-plan offices were devised by Satan in the deepest caverns of hell - Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian

2013-11-21 Thread Joel Bennett- Veel Hoeden
Carsten- +1 Like.

Joel


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Carsten Foertsch cars...@deskmag.comwrote:

 When we asked members of coworking spaces in our surveys what bothered
 them the most, the biggest problem was the noise, a range of 15% and 20%.
 However, the noise has almost NO negative impact on the popularity of a
 coworking space. When asking members how much they like their coworking
 spaces, there was almost no difference between members who have or or don't
 have a problem with noise. A membership is rather cancelled when a person
 doesn't like other people at a coworking space. That's an option which most
 of employees don't have, no wonder why they would prefer a private office
 in this case. It's a point which was not a part of the discussed research.

 At betahaus, where we work, the operators once created a silent room as
 reaction to noise problems. As result, they were less people who worked at
 this part of betahaus. This room was quite big, probably too big. The
 operators re-arranged this room again, this time by setting up a normal
 open space surrounded by some team offices, mainly for those who work for
 customer support.

 Btw, there is also a big difference between the sound of a sea, and a
 jackhammer nearby. Regular noise on a low level is usually less disturbing.

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[Coworking] Re: Open-plan offices were devised by Satan in the deepest caverns of hell - Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian

2013-11-21 Thread Carsten Foertsch
When we asked members of coworking spaces in our surveys what bothered them 
the most, the biggest problem was the noise, a range of 15% and 20%. 
However, the noise has almost NO negative impact on the popularity of a 
coworking space. When asking members how much they like their coworking 
spaces, there was almost no difference between members who have or or don't 
have a problem with noise. A membership is rather cancelled when a person 
doesn't like other people at a coworking space. That's an option which most 
of employees don't have, no wonder why they would prefer a private office 
in this case. It's a point which was not a part of the discussed research.

At betahaus, where we work, the operators once created a silent room as 
reaction to noise problems. As result, they were less people who worked at 
this part of betahaus. This room was quite big, probably too big. The 
operators re-arranged this room again, this time by setting up a normal 
open space surrounded by some team offices, mainly for those who work for 
customer support. 

Btw, there is also a big difference between the sound of a sea, and a 
jackhammer nearby. Regular noise on a low level is usually less disturbing.

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