Brent:
That's interesting about the low/high end part of coworking in Denver.
I have the option for the 110 mbps Comcast system outside the door of
Creative Density but the 70m down is a lot cheaper. I currently have
40m and will upgrade when needed (we've talked about all of this in
person
Hey guys,
Creative Density in Denver has been open for just over 2 weeks and is
off to an exciting start with 11 members (13 starting on Monday). The
community that is developing here has been great and I'm excited to be
part of the coworking movement in Denver and Colorado. We are located
in the
Thanks for sharing guys. Here are the stats for Creative Density in
Denver. We have only been open for 7 weeks so the numbers might be
fully representative or 'normal' operations.
Here it goes:
Home: 668 views - 29.7%
Space: 463 views - 20.1%
Membership: 274 views - 11.91%
Free day pass: 131
We are about 6 weeks in and have a 45% women and 55% men. This is
drastically different than my time in Toronto which was 90% men and
10% women after 4 months. I think it is important to have an equal
balance from the beginning or else it can become a 'boys club' real
quickly.
Craig
We have Foursquare and I'm pleased with our results. We have members
checking in to compete for the mayor position but Foursqaure is most
useful when we host events. We hold an event at least once a week with
a lot of new people coming in and most of them are social media and
Foursqaure users.
I'm a big fan of podcasts and the occasional online video series like
the ones on Revision3, Twit, or CNET. After being in the coworking
world as a community manager/owner for a year I would like to start
producing a regular podcasts or video about coworking for the greater
community where we
David,
You can't use the general rule of 10% of your income being in rental
income since this is your greatest expenses compared to most
businesses where employees are their biggest expenses (excluding
certain special manufacturers). You have to ask yourself a few
questions when developing the
Wow. There is a lot of interest in this topic.
I would like for several people to be the host of the show much like
TWIT show. There is a one constant host but several different experts
contribute, like a total of 4 hosts for each episode. I think our
coworking communities have different needs
This is exactly how I approached opening a coworking space in Denver.
The survey is still up at www.denvercoworking.com if you want to check
it out.I had over 65 people fill out the survey to basically get a
feel for the most important amenities and location. The locations was
key so make that an
It should also be noted that some members upgraded their plans after
trying it out for a month or two.
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Thanks Angel.
We hit the ground running in June and signed up 11 people quickly.
Boom. Smiles! The first few weeks of July kept the good times rolling
and then half through July... (cricket cricket). It's good to hear
that this is normal, at least in Colorful Colorado. Things are
starting to thaw
Thanks Gerad.
The community aspect is pretty strong here. Members are holding events
and having lunch together and most of them seem to check-in with each
other and be able to talk more than work to each other. All very good
things and show they understanding the benefit of coworking. I think
the
Do any coworking spaces have small companies of 5 or more people work
there? If so, how does it effect your culture?
I was thinking about this the other day as some small businesses are
looking to join coworking communities in Denver, but I am hesitant to
having large groups join in fear that
I went through this process about 6 months ago when I started my
coworking community. I would be happy to answer some of your specific
questions.
Here are some basic numbers:
We have room for 25 coworkers at one time.
Furniture: $9,000 to $10,000
Insurance: $550
Down payment: $4000
Rent:
Hey Nick,
I use to live in Wicker Park/Bucktown and there aren't any coworking
communities that I'm aware of there. It's a great place to stay and I
highly recommend the neighborhood while you are there. As for
coworking, I would check out The COOP on Superior St. It is close to a
L stop from
I would recommend checking out some previous discussions we have had
in this group about marketing efforts and getting noticed.
After looking back here are a few suggestions:
Host Meetups and you or members start their own.
Offer free days and encourage people to bring in friends.
Be active in
Hey guys,
I know it's early to think about this but a member asked today about
the closing between Christmas and the flipping of the calendar to
apocalypse 2012. How does your coworking spaces do this?
I'm looking to head back to my home state for the holiday but don't
have a key code locking
Thanks for reaching out to Brad.
Craig Baute
Creative Density
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Nice work all!
Chad
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This rocks!! Great work Joel!!
Loosecubes.com
We're hiring (Ruby on
Thanks for producing the episode Jon.
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Happy Friday All,
The first episode of The Coworkers since Tony and Alex handed the
project over to the community has been published. This episode features:
* Alex Hillman of
Steve,
I would say don't start a coworking community because you are out of a
job, start a coworking community because you want to. The coworking
movement is still growing at extremely fast rate with more and more
spaces opening up. Will business close down? Yes, all business do.
Will other
A member and I have been tooling around the idea of a show and tell.
This would be an opportunity for a member to spend an extended length
of time to show off their latest project and receive feedback.
I have talked to several community managers that have mentioned they
use to do it or still do.
I use the mix strategy of having full-time and hot desk options. Just
as Alex mentioned this is for cultural and financial reasons because
the consistency of full-time members helps make people feel
comfortable here. I would like to see a 25% to 33% mix of full-timers
with hot desking, but that
Our most successful events have been based on members needs. Our
general theory is that our day events is for members and some are run
by members. The evenning events are generally outside Meetups put on
by outside groups.
This month we are starting a Denver Business Book Club and Creative
Flex.
Hey Alex and Will,
I often love telling people that coworking was pretty much stolen from
artist that have been sharing resources and finding inspiration from
each other for centuries. I think it is the finding inspiration and
building camaraderie in a shared space in ancient artist communes that
I made it a priority in the last two months to focus on internal
events for the members during the day. We have been hosting several
Meetups in the evening that brought a lot of ideas and discussion into
the space. They are also great promotional tools.
Here are some events that the members are
I forgot to add our Member Minute video series. We have a member that
is a videographer and he records me interviewing a different member
every other week. The format is very simple and I ask them what they
do, follow up with a question that dives deeper into one of their
areas, and ask them to
This is great. I'm from West Michigan (Saint Joseph and Grand Rapids)
and I'm excited to see coworking grow in the Mitten State. I will be
in the area for the holidays (maybe Kzoo), will The Bureau be open? I
would love to chat with you.
Craig Baute
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I haven't heard of anything about retailers offerring free coworking
in Colorado. However, I have heard of empty spaces working out deals
with coworking managers to open for free in their space and just take
the first revenue that comes in the door as rent, but membership is
charged.
Lui -
To Tony's point of structuring it in a way for the free person to be
part of the community and not just freeloaders. One example I always
liked was having a free table up front where anyone can work there for
free but once all of the seats were taken then that was that. It
limited the number of
This is awesome and a big deal.
Congrats.
Craig
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Please keep us informed and I would be happy to contribute.
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Susan:
Thanks for the break down. This is always good information and I would
like to know what you're sq. ft. is.
Bruce:
The 3' 3 is tight because each worker needs about 3' to 3' 6 to work
comfortable with a laptop, pad, and cup. If this amount is for two
people then I think comfort would be
Bruce:
I read the article as it is earned because it is what the coworking
spaces are asking in rent. They follow up by saying that most closed
offices in the area rent for $21 to $36. I assume that the $21 to $36
is the going rate to rent the space in this area but coworking spaces
are able to
I went with a method similar to Angel and Susan here we have several
different rooms besides our larger rooms that are unofficially quiet
rooms. This seems to really work well for us. It isn't completely
quiet but people have a tendency to a lot less in these rooms and it
gives them the hour or
I actually have a member working on this or some variation of it soon.
He wants to make a video of it and have it completed before the
conference.
Craig
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I have had at least one new member in the last month that was
previously part of a coworking community in a different town. When
they moved to Denver they sought out a new coworking community to join
and luckily picked Creative Density.
Thank you everyone. I hope as members leave CD when they
We are going to be the same thing soon as we grow. After 10 months of
being open some issues need to be aired out and rules need to
restated. I think between me talking to the people individually and
the town hall style of meetings then everything can be easily
resolved.
How often does each of
We have a shared food table in our lounge up front where I place
cookies or Pop chips once a week. This little gesture has encouraged
other members to bring in food for sharing that has ranged from sweet
breads to celery with peanut butter. As the community manager I just
needed to get the ball
One of the biggest takeaways from the conference last week was the
potential power of the city or regional collaboration associations. It
sounds like Seattle is the best organized with Toronto also starting
to have a strong group. These regional groups not only build positive
relationships and
I think it is important to remember that as coworking owners we see a
lot of our members on a very regular basis and talk to them in person.
If there is not a lot conversations going online doesn't mean there
isn't a lot of conversations happening elsewhere. For example, many
coworking spaces hold
Alex Hill also posted some numbers at the IndyHall Blog here
http://www.indyhall.org/blog/2010/08/06/indy-hall-by-the-numbers/
Craig
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I have been working with another coworking space to create a data
sheet describing the benefits of coworking for remote workers target
businesses that reside between Denver and Boulder. I'll share it with
you once we complete it.
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Thanks for the kind words Toni. I decided not to partner with existing
programs, like the chamber of commerce, because they generally serve
new businesses with the basics of starting a business, 101 style of
courses. We didn't want to be that and wanted to take it up to 200 to
300 level (to keep
I don't know how complicated you wanna get but CSI in Toronto set
themselves up as a non-profit and sold bonds to raise the money to buy
their building. However, if you want to keep things simple and need
less than $100,000 then I would try and pre-sell membership or take
loans out from members as
I feel like the coworking blog needs to stick around and we just need
to make it a higher priority to submit articles to it. I know we are
busy and spend a fair amont of time on this Google group, but if each
person dedicates themselves to writing one post every two or three
months then we could
Are you using CA as Cali or Cananda?
In Canada you do need to charge the sales tax. In Toronto the sales
tax was 13% and we had to add it on.
Craig
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The conference rooms are started to gain interest by outsides in the
last 4 months at the time I was open 8 months. I don't market them on
the site besides a a footnote on the membership page. Here is what I
charge: 6 person room, $25/hour, $75 half day, $100 full day. Larger
15 person room - $150
These directories are evolving and I get a sense that Loosecubes is
the closet one to bringing in that 'vibe' factor. I like how I, as a
space owner, can add regulars to the sidebar to show visitors to the
listing the type of people that cowork here. The regulars have a
profile page that give some
If I had to create the job description I would emphasis friendliness,
a willingness to learn, and general curiousity. My role as an owner/
community manager is mainly focused on creating a culture of openness
and a friendly atmosphere. As the main person that people interact
with for their first
I can safely say most of us don't have a reservation system for hot
desking and it works well for us. In my opionon, a reservation system
creates a barrier between you and the community that reminds people
that this is a commercial transaction. I like to elminate the barriers
for the coworker so
This is exciting! I love that coworking is really starting to take hold
outside of western societies because on the coworking map there are giant
holes in Africa, the Middle East, and most of Asia.
Could you and other coworking friends in this area please update us on how
coworking may be
I went through Hartford as well and was overall very pleased with my
experience and reasonable rates. I would just like to echo Alex's point of
getting someone that understands coworking or else they will think you are
an executive suite with a lot more extra equipment and furniture and will
I'm not technical and can't provide any great insight but I do want to give
you a hug and a high-five sometime for doing this.
Craig
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There are a lot of previous posts on this subject that I would recommend
checking out. Just search 'getting members' and you'll find several
previous discussions and good discussions.
The most important part is to clearly describe what coworking is, to
encourage your current members of the
After 11 months of having set hours, Creative Density went 24/7 about 3
months ago. The utilities bills have not changed significantly ($10 to $20
more in 3500 sq. ft. building) because members are pretty considerate and
don't turn on the AC if it just them in the building. Remember: People are
Congrats Eli. This is exciting and CSI is one of the few spaces to go
international.
Craig
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I am also part of the LinkedIn group and they do have some good interesting
links to offer every once in a while. As Alex said they do tend to focus on
the real estate but they are open minded and willing to listen to people. I
think this is a good organization that first focused on Executive
I use to live in Chicago and didn't know of any coworking out in the
suburbs. This was several years and there are now many more spaces but they
all appear to be downtown along the EL and the loop.
There is a lot of potential if you'd like to start a coworking group and
start driving interest.
Thanks for passing this on Brenden. I'm a market researcher and did similar
stuff for the city of Denver before locating it. This is a great blue print
for people that want to do similar studies for their own market.
Craig
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Hey Aliza,
In Boulder there is Scrib and Boulder Digital Arts as true coworking
spaces. A few more are popping up in the next few months that generally are
getting started by VCs sorts. There is also Trada's code space might still
have a coworking element going on as well.
We, Creative
We have speakers that carry music through two of the rooms, which is the
lounge and energy room (group high tops), and doesn't play throughout the
rest of the space. This helps gives each of our rooms a different feel
based on how people want to work for the day. The music is not very loud
but
When I first started Creative Density in Denver I rented out a 3500 sf
space, but only really wanted 2000 sf after a hard lesson learned when
helping out a space in Toronto that had 7500 sf and no members. In Toronto
people would join but spread way out because they could. New members
I would be careful to compare because coworking spaces come in several
different forms with many accelerators using the term coworking and small
businesses (software shops, ad agencies, etc.) also having an aspect of
coworking in the mix. They are on a different financial and growth goal
than
Here is the DeskMag link
http://www.deskmag.com/en/contracts-in-coworking-spaces-agreements-530
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Ken,
My research confirms what Alex said. Most coworking spaces run between 80
to 100 sqf for a desk, including shared space. For example, a 5000 sqf.
space can have 50 to 63 desks.
Craig
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Last month I started a new blog series on the Creative Density is a support
system for the new workforce. The posts emphasis how the people inside and
the environment that supports the individual and their business to succeed.
I have written two posts and have a few more ideas, but I would like
Congratulations Angel.
I would love to chat with you with soon about this transition, her
responsibilities, and your overall role now.
Craig Baute
Creative Density
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I, kind of selfishly, would like to take this exchange idea in a bit of a
different direction -- coworking space owner exchange.
I would love to swap spaces with another coworking owner in a different
city for a week or so. It would be a great learning experience for space
owners to see how
Thank Steve. I'm a data whore and I look forward to reading this report and
getting back to you with any questions.
Craig
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Alex brings up a good point and his class sounds very interesting on
creating the process on building a community. It is a skill to build a
community and there are several key things space owners have learned
through trial and error over the years. I was just asked yesterday what
three key
Hey Brian,
I'm working on a book right now that discusses the business aspect of
coworking with worksheets, checklists, spreadsheets, and lessons I learned
on choosing location and getting the community involved early on in the
process. Shoot me an email and I can share a few rough drafts of
Everyone,
Overall, this Google group doesn't have very much spam and unwarrented
solication from unrelated vendors. I have no problem if people approach the
group once in a while to build awareness of their product. Turnstone,
Loosecubes, Alex's class, Cobot, and others are building tools and
After 16 months we are still about 40% women and have been pretty steady at
that range.
Craig
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You can use the wiki Coworking Visa. It hasn't gotten much exposure from
new spaces in the last two years, but the older coworking spaces that know
about have really taken advantage of it. In Denver, we've had people from
Office Nomads, Next Space, and an individual from LA use it in the last
This week the massive 30,000 sf.Galvanized Space opened in Denver with the
backing of several VCs in the Front Range. They have lightly hugged the
term coworking (they spell it as co-working), but are creating a space for
the startup scene in the downtown area. They have private offices,
Anca,
They are not taking equity and I would call those an accelerator or
incubator. Instead they created the space so the VCs know what is going on
in the startup community and are exposed to the new startups in the area.
The goal of the space is not to make (much) money off of it but to gain
Melissa,
I'm repeating much of the stuff that Alex said.
I think you have too many pricing options. Many coworking spaces go two
ways with their pricing - unlimited use or tiered pricing. Creative Density
and many others use a tiered pricing system and it generally breaks down to
1 day/week,
Alex is right that classes vary dramatically from space to space.
We tried to do regular classes and found it to be difficult to find quality
instructors and to market the classes. Basically, it's a lot of work with
little pay off. I have since shifted my focus and looking partner services
Yesterday I launched
*Hirehttp://densitycoworking.com/new-service-hire-a-freelancer-through-creative-density/
* on Creative Density's site where local Denver companies can submit
projects to the freelancers that cowork at Creative Density. I'm branding
it as a personal recommendation service
Criteria for gigs: None right now. If the budgets are insulting to the
members then I'll have a sense over time what is too low for them to
consider. I'll just reply back saying we don't have anyone that matches
their needs.
What wouldn't make the cut? I don't know yet. I think the more
Hey Oren,
I would email some coworking spaces directly in Texas. There is a good
chance that your state doesn't require sales tax on services.
Craig
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Thanks for this. I was recently read Herman Miller: Purpose of Design that
also gave an interesting take on the workplace over the last 110 years. I
think it's important to understand workspace design history in order to
understand how owners can use design as a tool to facilitate community.
Sorry to say Loosecubes is shutting down so that is no longer an option
right now. Creative Density does participate in the Coworking Visa giving
two free days to out of towners that are part of another coworking space,
and we've had coworkers do workcation from all around the US in the last
Loosecubes just announced they are shutting down this Friday. This is
upsetting news because I liked the direction that Loosecubes was taking
shape with more detailed member and coworking space profiles that added
helpful context to both sides. I know the coworking members here enjoyed
getting
I do think the coworking business model is immature but proven to work. The
coworking world has many successful stories and many failures, but we are
within the failure and success rates of any other business and in many
cases doing better. What I think the coworking business model does need to
Alex,
That's a good way to describe the selection of events. When I was talking
to Jacob he made a similar point in that events that have
community participation are not only a higher value to the community but is
also an outlet for members to get involved. It also doesn't put the burden
of
Thanks for the clarification.
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Quick update:
The service has been live for nearly two weeks now and we're starting to
get projects being submitted from outside companies. It has been exciting
to see this program develop and the members love the extra exposure and the
projects coming through.
One interesting and unexpected
We've recently been approached by remote workers that are located in the
suburbs of Denver that would like a corporate package created. Since we
have noticed a real need in the region between Denver and Boulder we
decided to start talking to companies about their awesome team members that
live
I've been thinking a lot about this idea as well because it sounds as a way
to generate new revenue for spaces while benefiting the members by exposing
them to new and relevant products. My take on it was building a network of
spaces and coworkers and offer them specials or discounts on
The most common options I've come across Alex pretty much covered - Tiered
Punch card, and Unlimited. CoCo has corporate packages for groups or
rotating desks for companies. We are adding corporate and rotating desks
soon because Boulder is booming right now and they are hiring a lot of
I would go to www.thedeskdenver.com to see what system they are using
because they are using hourly pricing.
I'm not sure how your plans are set up, but my gut doesn't really like the
idea of hourly pricing. I think it creates a culture that is focused on the
clock and not just hanging out to
I think involving spaces and encouraging their members, while openning it
up to members to sign up directly, would be the best way to scale the
exposure. I know Denver has about 6 spaces and a total of 200 coworkers or
so. If you can offer a sponsorship that is beneficial to people then will
We all share knowledge, but it would also be helpful for us to share
marketing collateral as templates. Ya know, awesome posters, post cards,
business cards, whatever. This way we don't have to reproducing the same
stuff that we've been using and instead just fork it for our own
communities.
The Denver Coworks, a coworking alliance between 6 spaces, formed late last
year. There has been several people interested in creating city wide
coworking alliances throughout the world. The site's goal is to build
awareness of coworking throughout Denver, but also build a stronger bond to
Hey Fabrizo,
GCUC was good with over 300 attendees. DeskMag will put up several updates
about the meetings because several of us were busy listening to the panels
or partying. We will use the lessons we learned to provide better answers.
I would love to stay updated about Frontal Labs in
Whiteboard and weekly snack wars!
Craig
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I don't allow them because the handeling of hours is too much management
and hassel even though we likely have the space. Our day rate is $20 and
most of the time people are okay with that. We don't have many drop-ins
though so this isn't an issue.
The Desk here in Denver does do rentals by
I would also check out Ring Central. I would describe them as a robust
business version of Google Voice. They do cost more than Grasshopper, which
is also highly recommended and have been supportive of the coworking
community.
Craig
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basis versus one off space projections.
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