Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-11 Thread Andreas Sewe
Hi, just started playing around with Eierlegende Wollmilchsau (nice name, BTW) and noticed something odd: The Java perspective's Search, Source and Refactor menus have "lost their shape", i.e., all separators are gone and the menu order is very different than the one used in, e.g., Eclipse IDE fo

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Michael Scharf" > To: "Cross project issues" > Sent: Wednesday, 9 December, 2015 11:25:24 PM > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau > > Hi Doug, > > > I could make it the same

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Timo Kinnunen
From: Doug Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 23:05 To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau From: on behalf of Wayne Beaton Organization: The Eclipse Foundation Reply-To: Cross project issues Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 4

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Torkild Ulvøy Resheim
food for thought. > Doug. > > From: Wayne Beaton > Date: Wed Dec 09 2015 17:10:22 GMT-0500 (EST) > To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau > > I think that there's a bug open to make the tool bar

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Doug Schaefer
ht. Doug. From: Wayne Beaton mailto:wa...@eclipse.org>> Date: Wed Dec 09 2015 17:10:22 GMT-0500 (EST) To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau I think that there's a bug open

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Wayne Beaton
:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>" <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau Is maybe the first step to make it look and act like everything that's already on the tool bar? The New Connection is

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Doug Schaefer
o: "cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>" mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau Is maybe the first step to make it look and act like everything that's alr

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Wayne Beaton
Is maybe the first step to make it look and act like everything that's already on the tool bar? Frankly, I like the idea of pushing the metaphors that we use and challenging look and feel assumptions. I actually quite like the look of the Launch Bar. It does, however, stand out like a sore thu

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Doug Schaefer
;> wants to launch it, something especially important to developers working >> with remote devices and servers. I am less tied to how it looks, as >>long as >> it doesn¹t look like crap. >> >> Doug. >> >> From: on behalf of Lars >>Vogel >> >&g

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Michael Scharf
alf of Lars > Vogel mailto:lars.vo...@vogella.com>> > Reply-To: Cross project issues <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>> > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 12:53 PM > To: Cross project issues <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>&g

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Lars Vogel
; Doug. > > From: on behalf of Lars Vogel > > Reply-To: Cross project issues > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 12:53 PM > To: Cross project issues > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau > > I agree, that the bug lauchbar icons looks displaced. &g

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Doug Schaefer
behalf of Lars Vogel mailto:lars.vo...@vogella.com>> Reply-To: Cross project issues mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 12:53 PM To: Cross project issues mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>> Subject: Re: [cross-project

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Lars Vogel
I agree, that the bug lauchbar icons looks displaced. Doug, IIRC you usually a argue for consistency in the IDE. IMHO these lauchbar icons should use the same size as all the others, otherwise they are a UI breakage for the user. We in Platform plans to bring high resolution support for icons in

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Ed Merks
Doug, Comments below. On 09/12/2015 4:58 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote: Thanks Ed! (and Michael for the picture). It was kind of entertaining. In any case, we generate this product along with the rest of the product catalog, so it will always be available for testing. This is awesome and I’m glad

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Mickael Istria
On 12/09/2015 04:58 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote: You bring up a great point about the Toolbar. It’s the most obvious affect of the tragedy of the commons, and it’s why I’m having a personal war against it. Do these buttons really need to be in the face of the user all the time? How often are any of

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Matthias Zimmermann
project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau Hi, I think this is a great effort and I highly appreciate that Ed took the time to start it. Coming with rules for some really basic sanity checks as they were already mentioned would be a great benefit. I think

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread SCHNEKENBURGER Remi 211865
ct-issues-dev@eclipse.org Objet : Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau Camille , Sorry, it's not my intent to offend anyone and I hoped not to do a lot of finger pointing though of course it's good if people pay attention and fix problems that are home grown.

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Ed Merks
ipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] De la part de Ed Merks Envoyé : mercredi 9 décembre 2015 07:54 À : Cross project issues Objet : [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau Hi, We've created an all-in-one Eclipse product affectionately called Eclipse Eier

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread LETAVERNIER Camille
cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] De la part de Ed Merks Envoyé : mercredi 9 décembre 2015 07:54 À : Cross project issues Objet : [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau Hi, We've created an all-in-one Eclipse prod

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Christian Campo
woch, 9. Dezember 2015 um 10:11 An: Cross issues mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>> Betreff: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau Hi, that sounds like an interesting exercise. Thank you for taking the time and the summarized findings, Ed. Maybe it's worthwh

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Maximilian Koegel
Hi Sebastian, I think having integration tests for this is a very good idea to make sure that basic sanity checks are enforced. Maybe creating and maintaining those tests is be something to be addressed with FEEP? Cheers, Maximilian ___ cross-projec

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-09 Thread Sebastian Zarnekow
Hi, that sounds like an interesting exercise. Thank you for taking the time and the summarized findings, Ed. Maybe it's worthwhile to derive some minimal sanity checks from here and impose quality metrics for components on the release train? An integration test for the preferences would be helpful

[cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

2015-12-08 Thread Ed Merks
Hi, We've created an all-in-one Eclipse product affectionately called Eclipse Eierlegende Wollmilchsau. For the linguistically challenged, it's the Eclipse Egg-laying Wool-milk-pig. Like the ultimate all-in-one farm animal, this Eclipse product can do everything because it installs everythi