NSA domestic intelligence "vacuum"

2008-03-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger


   WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Five years ago, Congress killed an experimental
   Pentagon antiterrorism program meant to vacuum up electronic data
   about people in the U.S. to search for suspicious patterns. Opponents
   called it too broad an intrusion on Americans' privacy, even after the
   Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

   But the data-sifting effort didn't disappear. The National Security
   Agency, once confined to foreign surveillance, has been building
   essentially the same system.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120511973377523845.html?mod=todays_us_page_one

Hat tip: Bruce Schneier's blog.


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announcing allmydata.org "Tahoe", the Least-Authority Filesystem, v1.0

2008-03-26 Thread zooko

ANNOUNCING Allmydata.org "Tahoe", the Least-Authority Filesystem, v1.0

We are pleased to announce the release of version 1.0 of the "Tahoe"
Least Authority Filesystem.

The "Tahoe" Least Authority Filesystem is a secure, decentralized,
fault-tolerant filesystem.  All of the source code is available under
a Free Software, Open Source licence (or two).

This filesystem is encrypted and distributed over multiple peers in
such a way it continues to function even when some of the peers are
unavailable, malfunctioning, or malicious.

A one-page explanation of the security and fault-tolerance properties
that it offers is visible at:

http://allmydata.org/source/tahoe/trunk/docs/about.html


We believe that this version of Tahoe is stable enough to rely on as a
permanent store of valuable data.  The version 1 branch of Tahoe will
be actively supported and maintained for the forseeable future, and
future versions of Tahoe will retain the ability to read files and
directories produced by Tahoe v1.0 for the forseeable future.

This release of Tahoe will form the basis of the new consumer backup
product from Allmydata, Inc. -- http://allmydata.com .


This is the successor to Allmydata.org "Tahoe" Least Authority
Filesystem v0.9, which was released March 13, 2008 [1].  Since v0.9
we've made the following changes:

 * Use an added secret for convergent encryption to better protect the
   confidentiality of immutable files, and remove the publically
   readable hash of the plaintext (ticket #365).

 * Add a "mkdir-p" feature to the WAPI (ticket #357).

 * Many updates to the Windows installer and Windows filesystem
   integration.


Tahoe v1.0 produces files which can't be read by older versions of
Tahoe, although files produced by Tahoe >= 0.8 can be read by Tahoe
1.0.  The reason that older versions of Tahoe can't read files
produced by Tahoe 1.0 is that those older versions require the file to
come with a publically-readable hash of the plaintext, but exposing
such a hash is a confidentiality leak, so Tahoe 1.0 does not do it.


WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?

With Tahoe, you can distribute your filesystem across a set of
computers, such that if some of the computers fail or turn out to be
malicious, the filesystem continues to work from the remaining
computers.  You can also share your files with other users, using a
strongly encrypted, capability-based access control scheme.

Because this software is the product of less than a year and a half of
active development, we do not categorically recommend it for the
storage of data which is extremely confidential or precious.  However,
we believe that the combination of erasure coding, strong encryption,
and careful engineering makes the use of this software a much safer
alternative than common alternatives, such as RAID, or traditional
backup onto a remote server, removable drive, or tape.

This software comes with extensive unit tests [2], and there are no
known security flaws which would compromise confidentiality or data
integrity.  (For all currently known security issues please see the
Security web page: [3].)

This release of Tahoe is suitable for the "friendnet" use case [4] --
it is easy to create a filesystem spread over the computers of you and
your friends so that you can share files and disk space with one
another.


LICENCE

You may use this package under the GNU General Public License, version
2 or, at your option, any later version.  See the file "COPYING.GPL"
for the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 2.

You may use this package under the Transitive Grace Period Public
Licence, version 1.0.  The Transitive Grace Period Public Licence says
that you may distribute proprietary derived works of Tahoe without
releasing the source code of that derived work for up to twelve
months, after which time you are obligated to release the source code
of the derived work under the Transitive Grace Period Public Licence.
See the file "COPYING.TGPPL.html" for the terms of the Transitive
Grace Period Public Licence, version 1.0.

(You may choose to use this package under the terms of either licence,
at your option.)


INSTALLATION

Tahoe works on Linux, Mac OS X, Windows, Cygwin, and Solaris.  For
installation instructions please see "docs/install.html" [5].


HACKING AND COMMUNITY

Please join us on the mailing list [6] to discuss uses of Tahoe.
Patches that extend and improve Tahoe are gratefully accepted -- the
RoadMap page [7] shows the next improvements that we plan to make and
CREDITS [8] lists the names of people who've contributed to the
project.  The wiki Dev page [9] contains resources for hackers.


SPONSORSHIP

Tahoe is sponsored by Allmydata, Inc. [10], a provider of consumer
backup services.  Allmydata, Inc. contributes hardware, software,
ideas, bug reports, suggestions, demands, and money (employing several
allmydata.org Tahoe hackers and instructing them to spend part of
their work time on this free-software project).  We are eternally
grateful!


Zo

Re: Protection for quasi-offline memory nabbing

2008-03-26 Thread Alex Alten

At 10:38 AM 3/21/2008 -0700, Jon Callas wrote:


Despite that my hypotheses are only that, and I have no experimental
data, I think that using a large block cipher mode like EME to induce
a pseudo-random, maximally-fragile bit region is an excellent
mitigation strategy.


Isn't EME patented?  - Alex

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Re: [p2p-hackers] convergent encryption reconsidered

2008-03-26 Thread zooko

Jim:

Thanks for your detailed response on the convergent encryption issue.

In this post, I'll just focus on one very interesting question that  
you raise: "When do either of these attacks on convergent encryption  
apply?".


In my original note I was thinking about the allmydata.org "Tahoe"  
Least Authority Filesystem.  In this post I will attempt to follow  
your lead in widening the scope.  In particular GNUnet and Freenet  
are currently active projects that use convergent encryption.  The  
learn-partial-information attack would apply to either system if a  
user were using it with files that she intended not to divulge, but  
that were susceptible to being brute-forced in this way by an attacker.



On Mar 20, 2008, at 10:56 PM, Jim McCoy wrote:


On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:42 PM, zooko wrote:


  Security engineers have always appreciated that convergent
  encryption allows an attacker to perform a
  confirmation-of-a-file attack -- if the attacker already knows
  the full plaintext of a file, then they can check whether a
  given user has a copy of that file.


The truth of this depends on implementation details, and is an
assertion that cannot be said to cover all or even most of the
potential use-cases for this technique.


You're right.  I was writing the above in the context of Tahoe,  
where, as Brian Warner explained, we do not attempt to hide the  
linkage between users and ciphertexts.  What I wrote above doesn't  
apply in the general case.


However, there is a very general argument about the applicability of  
these attacks, which is: "Why encrypt?".


If your system has strong anonymity properties, preventing people  
from learning which files are associated with which users, then you  
can just store the files in plaintext.


Ah, but of course you don't want to do that, because even without  
being linked to users, files may contain sensitive information that  
the users didn't intend to disclose.  But if the files contain such  
information, then it might be acquired by the learn-partial- 
information attack.


When designing such a system, you should ask yourself "Why  
encrypt?".  You encrypt in order to conceal the plaintext from  
someone, but if you use convergent encryption, and they can use the  
learn-partial-information attack, then you fail to conceal the  
plaintext from them.


You should use traditional convergent encryption (without an added  
secret) if:


1.  You want to encrypt the plaintext, and
2.  You want convergence, and
3.  You don't mind exposing the existence of that file (ignoring the  
confirmation-of-a-file attack), and
4.  You are willing to bet that the file has entropy from the  
attacker's perspective which is greater than his computational  
capacity (defeating the learn-partial-information attack).


You should use convergent encryption with an added secret (as  
recently implemented for the Tahoe Least Authority Filesystem) if:


1.  You want to encrypt the plaintext, and
2.  You want convergence within the set of people who know the added  
secret, and
3.  You don't mind exposing the existence of that file to people in  
that set, and
4.  You are willing to disclose the file to everyone in that set, or  
else you think that people in that set to whom you do not wish to  
disclose the file will not try the learn-partial-information attack,  
or if they do that the file has entropy from their perspective which  
is greater than their computational capacity.


I guess the property of unlinkability between user and file addresses  
issue 3 in the above list -- the existence of a file is a much less  
sensitive bit of information than the existence of a file in a  
particular user's collection.


It could also effect issue 4 by increasing the entropy the file has  
from an attacker's perspective.  If he knows that the ciphertext  
belongs to you then he can try filling in the fields with information  
that he knows about you.  Without that linkage, he has to try filling  
in the fields with information selected from what he knows about all  
users.  But hiding this linkage doesn't actually help in the case the  
attacker is already using everything he knows about all users to  
attack all files in parallel.


Note that using an added secret does help in the parallel attack  
case, because (just like salting passwords) it breaks the space of  
targets up into separate spaces which can't all be attacked with the  
same computation.




The first problem is isolating the original
ciphertext in the pool of storage.  If a file is encrypted using
convergent encryption and then run through an error-correction
mechanism to generate a number of shares that make up the file an
attacker first needs to be able to isolate these shares to generate
the orginal ciphertext.  FEC decoding speeds may be reasonably fast,
but they are not without some cost.  If the storage pool is
sufficiently large and you are doing your job to limit the ability of
an attacker to see which

Re: [mm] How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread Ben Laurie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 03:52:49PM +, Ben Laurie wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 02:46:40PM +, Ben Laurie wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Er... Allow me the option o fdisbeleiving your assertion.
PTR records can and do point to mutiple names.  Some narrow
implementations have assumed that there will only be a single
data element and this myth - that PTRs only point to a single
name - is and has been spread widely.
You can disbelieve my assertion if you wish, but I am only quoting the 
RFC. RFC 1035, to be precise:


"Address nodes are used to hold pointers to primary host names
in the normal domain space."

(section 3.5. IN-ADDR.ARPA domain). So, the "myth" is in the scripture.


ah... open to interpretation.  what is a "primary" host name?
RFC 1035 does not say, in the case of hosts, but the intent is quite 
clear from the text on gateways:


"Gateways will often have two names in separate domains, only one of 
which can be primary."



the intent for gateways...  hosts w/ multiple IP's (VMware etc)
are not gateways.  comparing oranges w/ dragonfruits.


If you insist on language lawyering, I can play.

I'd say it is clear from:

a) The lack of a repeated PTR record for a host IP in the example,

b) The use of the word 'primary',

c) The fact that the authors felt it necessary to explain what they saw 
as an exceptional case, i.e. that a gateway could have two names


that in the case of hosts, the authors expected there to only be a 
single PTR record for reverse lookup.


Of course, we have the power to change RFCs. But there's a process for that.

Cheers,

Ben.

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Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-03-26 Thread Ben Laurie

Perry E. Metzger wrote:

Nothing terribly new here -- short interview with someone who bought
an RFID credit card reader on ebay for $8 and demonstrates getting
people's credit card information at short distances using it. Still,
it is interesting to see how trivial it is to do.

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/19/bbtv-how-to-hack-an.html


Yeah, but...

He's talking bollocks when he says that the decryption should be done in 
some secure datacentre. That wouldn't save you unless there was some 
kind of handshake with the card - and the trouble is, those cards don't 
have the power to do any real crypto.


In the absence of something to prevent MitM, you would just intercept 
the encrypted contents of the card, and then use that. So why bother to 
encrypt it?


So, the bottom line is you need more horsepower in the gadget that 
controls your money, so you can do real crypto.


Then we get to the next problem: we don't trust the device with the 
keypad and display. So, we need to add that to the GTCYM (Gadget That 
Controls Your Money).


And so we end up at the position that we have ended up at so many times 
before: the GTCYM has to have a decent processor, a keyboard and a 
screen, and must be portable and secure.


One day we'll stop concluding this and actually do something about it.

Cheers,

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Re: [mm] How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread Ben Laurie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 02:46:40PM +, Ben Laurie wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Er... Allow me the option o fdisbeleiving your assertion.
PTR records can and do point to mutiple names.  Some narrow
implementations have assumed that there will only be a single
data element and this myth - that PTRs only point to a single
name - is and has been spread widely.
You can disbelieve my assertion if you wish, but I am only quoting the 
RFC. RFC 1035, to be precise:


"Address nodes are used to hold pointers to primary host names
in the normal domain space."

(section 3.5. IN-ADDR.ARPA domain). So, the "myth" is in the scripture.



ah... open to interpretation.  what is a "primary" host name?


RFC 1035 does not say, in the case of hosts, but the intent is quite 
clear from the text on gateways:


"Gateways will often have two names in separate domains, only one of 
which can be primary."


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Re: [mm] How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread bmanning
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 02:46:40PM +, Ben Laurie wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Er... Allow me the option o fdisbeleiving your assertion.
> > PTR records can and do point to mutiple names.  Some narrow
> > implementations have assumed that there will only be a single
> > data element and this myth - that PTRs only point to a single
> > name - is and has been spread widely.
> 
> You can disbelieve my assertion if you wish, but I am only quoting the 
> RFC. RFC 1035, to be precise:
> 
> "Address nodes are used to hold pointers to primary host names
> in the normal domain space."
> 
> (section 3.5. IN-ADDR.ARPA domain). So, the "myth" is in the scripture.


ah... open to interpretation.  what is a "primary" host name?

--bill

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Re: [mm] How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread Ben Laurie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Er... Allow me the option o fdisbeleiving your assertion.
PTR records can and do point to mutiple names.  Some narrow
implementations have assumed that there will only be a single
data element and this myth - that PTRs only point to a single
name - is and has been spread widely.


You can disbelieve my assertion if you wish, but I am only quoting the 
RFC. RFC 1035, to be precise:


"Address nodes are used to hold pointers to primary host names
in the normal domain space."

(section 3.5. IN-ADDR.ARPA domain). So, the "myth" is in the scripture.

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Re: How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread bmanning
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:59:18AM +, Ben Laurie wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 08:52:07AM +1000, James A. Donald wrote:
> >>From time to time I hear that DNSSEC is working fine, and on examining 
> >>the matter I find it is "working fine" except that 
> >>
> >>Seems to me that if DNSSEC is actually working fine, I should be able to 
> >>provide an authoritative public key for any domain name I control, and 
> >>should be able to obtain such keys for other domain names, and use such 
> >>keys for any purpose, not just those purposes envisaged in the DNSSEC 
> >>specification.  Can I?  It is not apparent to me that I can.
> >
> >
> > actually, the DNSSEC specification -used- to support 
> > keys for "any purpose", and in theory you could use
> > DNSSEC keys in that manner.  However a bit of careful
> > thought suggests that there is potential  disconnect btwn
> > the zone owner/admin who creates/distributes the keys as 
> > a token of the integrity and authenticity of the data in
> > the DNS, and the owner/admin of the node to which the DNS
> > data points.
> 
> So far, so good. This disconnect doesn't seem to have done the CA 
> industry any harm, though.

The CA business -is- to serve as a "notary" They attest to
the binding o fthe key to holder.  To date, thats NOT what
a zone admin does, he is attesting that its HIS key, that it
is HIS record in HIS database.  Just because he has sold the
right to use to someone else, is still his database and his data.

Unless of course Nominet (for example) is now going to allow 
client driven dynamic updates - where the clients are in complete 
control of their data.  (thats closer to James, assertion that he 
owns/controls his domain name)

> 
> >  Remember that while you may control your forward
> > name (and not many people actually run their own DNS servers)
> > it is less likely that you run your address maps - and for
> > the paranoid, you would want to ensure the forward and 
> > reverse zones are signed and at the intersection, there is
> > a common data element which you can use.
> 
> Non sequiteur, plus I can't see why paranoia would prompt me to want to 
> do this? What does it prove?

The argument is, again, to James asserton that he owns his domain 
name.  In point of fact, every node has at least two "names"
in the DNS, the forward (which gets most of the attention) and the
reverse - which is nearly always controled by your ISP.

DNSSEC validation along one path in the DNS graph is reassuring
(or so it is claimed).  I posit that validation over two, generally
non-overlapping administrative spheres of influence, in the DNS
graph would give a higher level of assurance. Couple this with
finding the identical x509 cert at the origin of the validation
chain for both paths - and I think I have a much higher confidence
that I am actually going to be sending packets to the "right"
node.


> Also, PTR records are only supposed to point to "primary domain names". 
> Since it is common for hosts to have many names resolving to the same IP 
> address, by definition most of these will not correspond to the reverse 
> lookup.

Er... Allow me the option o fdisbeleiving your assertion.
PTR records can and do point to mutiple names.  Some narrow
implementations have assumed that there will only be a single
data element and this myth - that PTRs only point to a single
name - is and has been spread widely.

> > To do what you want, want, you might consider using the
> > CERT-rr, using the DNS to distribute host-specific keys/certs.
> > And to ensure that the data in the DNS was not tampered with,
> > using DNSSEC signed zones with CERT-rr's would not be a bad
> > thing.   In fact, thats what we are testing .
> 
> Who is "we" and what exactly are you testing?

We is USMIR, the registry for .UM  -  www.nic.um

--bill

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> 
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Re: How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread Ben Laurie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 08:52:07AM +1000, James A. Donald wrote:
From time to time I hear that DNSSEC is working fine, and on examining 
the matter I find it is "working fine" except that 


Seems to me that if DNSSEC is actually working fine, I should be able to 
provide an authoritative public key for any domain name I control, and 
should be able to obtain such keys for other domain names, and use such 
keys for any purpose, not just those purposes envisaged in the DNSSEC 
specification.  Can I?  It is not apparent to me that I can.



	actually, the DNSSEC specification -used- to support 
	keys for "any purpose", and in theory you could use

DNSSEC keys in that manner.  However a bit of careful
thought suggests that there is potential  disconnect btwn
	the zone owner/admin who creates/distributes the keys as 
	a token of the integrity and authenticity of the data in

the DNS, and the owner/admin of the node to which the DNS
data points.


So far, so good. This disconnect doesn't seem to have done the CA 
industry any harm, though.



  Remember that while you may control your forward
name (and not many people actually run their own DNS servers)
it is less likely that you run your address maps - and for
	the paranoid, you would want to ensure the forward and 
	reverse zones are signed and at the intersection, there is

a common data element which you can use.


Non sequiteur, plus I can't see why paranoia would prompt me to want to 
do this? What does it prove?


Also, PTR records are only supposed to point to "primary domain names". 
Since it is common for hosts to have many names resolving to the same IP 
address, by definition most of these will not correspond to the reverse 
lookup.



To do what you want, want, you might consider using the
CERT-rr, using the DNS to distribute host-specific keys/certs.
And to ensure that the data in the DNS was not tampered with,
using DNSSEC signed zones with CERT-rr's would not be a bad
thing.   In fact, thats what we are testing .


Who is "we" and what exactly are you testing?

Cheers,

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Re: How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread Ben Laurie

James A. Donald wrote:
 From time to time I hear that DNSSEC is working fine, and on examining 
the matter I find it is "working fine" except that 


Seems to me that if DNSSEC is actually working fine, I should be able to 
provide an authoritative public key for any domain name I control, and 
should be able to obtain such keys for other domain names, and use such 
keys for any purpose, not just those purposes envisaged in the DNSSEC 
specification.  Can I?  It is not apparent to me that I can.


There are two major issues with DNSSEC right now. Neither of them is 
that it isn't working.


Firstly, the root is not signed. This means there's no easy way for the 
relying party to establish the correctness of the key on your domain.


Secondly, although we have DNS servers and resolvers, software that uses 
DNS is largely unaware of DNSSEC and so has absolutely no idea what to 
do when one of the many possible cryptographic/proof failures occurs. 
Very little thought has gone into what should be done, even in software 
that is aware.


That said, if you want to distribute keys with DNSSEC, then RFC 4398 
standardises ways to do a number of them, and can be extended to cover 
more. RFC 4255 gives you SSH host keys, too.


If you want to do something ad hoc, then there are always TXT records, 
though I guarantee this will make the DNS people hate you forever.


Cheers,

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Re: How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* James A. Donald:

> From time to time I hear that DNSSEC is working fine, and on examining
> the matter I find it is "working fine" except that 
>
> Seems to me that if DNSSEC is actually working fine, I should be able
> to provide an authoritative public key for any domain name I control,
> and should be able to obtain such keys for other domain names, and use
> such keys for any purpose, not just those purposes envisaged in the
> DNSSEC specification.  Can I?  It is not apparent to me that I can.

DNS is hierarchical.  Nobody wants the DoD (who are traditionally quite
good at keeping secret data) or any other institution to keep keys at
important positions in the hierarchy.  And nobody wants to be the keep
irreplaceable keys, either, which makes introduction at levels below the
DNS root difficult.

This is not a problem with the browser PKI because it's possible to
replace root certificates with a software update (which can be automated
in many cases).

And as Bill pointed out, it's not possible to use the DNS keys directly.
However, you can bootstrap another key based on data from DNS.  This
even works without DNSSEC.  DKIM does that, for instance.

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Re: How is DNSSEC

2008-03-26 Thread Dave Howe

James A. Donald wrote:
 From time to time I hear that DNSSEC is working fine, and on examining 
the matter I find it is "working fine" except that 


DNSSEC is "working fine" as a technology. However, it is worth 
remembering that it works based on digitally signing an entire zone - 
the state of the world being what it is, most people prohibit xfer so 
any other technology that would allow a zonewalk is not going to be 
deployed.


as far as I can tell, this is a basic design flaw, so isn't going to be 
rectified anytime soon.


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