Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:07 PM 5/20/2005, Felix Miata wrote: > Sure some designers mess it up with pixel-defined line-heights, but it > is working. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. A lot of authors mess things up with fixed line-heights, and even more mess it up using em for line-height. Felix, could you explain th

Re: [css-d] positioning issues IE 6 PC

2005-05-20 Thread Nikolay Spassov
Hi :-) I think you should remove the xml prolog in the beginning of your document -- as long as I remember anything before the doctype turns msie into quirks mode (and that means different box sizing method is applied). Diona Kidd wrote: Hello all friday night workers...are there any other th

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread Felix Miata
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > Uwe Kaiser wrote: > >> My grandma is using MSIE6/PC. And if she wants to increase the > >> font-size a developer has set on 8pt, than she do it, in oposition > >> with this developer she knows how. > > I'd like to know how. No IE I've ever used c

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Felix Miata wrote: Uwe Kaiser wrote: My grandma is using MSIE6/PC. And if she wants to increase the font-size a developer has set on 8pt, than she do it, in oposition with this developer she knows how. I'd like to know how. No IE I've ever used can do it. Try on this page, according to its

[css-d] positioning issues IE 6 PC

2005-05-20 Thread Diona Kidd
Hello all friday night workers...are there any other than me? Surely there are somewhere...or maybe there are friday day workers in another time zone with a sec. I have a positioning issue that appears only in IE for PC. I only have 6 installed so I don't know about other versions. Looks ok he

[css-d] same length columns through wide outer div border - question 2

2005-05-20 Thread Chad Sakonchick
Thanks much to dwain for the answer to my last problem. From there I've come pretty close but have a weird bug in IE. Also, if you check it out in safari or Firefox, you'll see the .inner tag border. I put the border there on purpose. Is the div supposed to be hanging out like that. I'

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread Felix Miata
Uwe Kaiser wrote: > Even if you use a picture, every browser can manipulate the size, > because browsers are made for that. I know the markup can size an image larger than its intrinsic size, but how and in which browsers is this done by an ordinary surfer? > My grandma is using MSIE6/PC. And

Re: [css-d] CSS creating Frames effect

2005-05-20 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, 20 May 2005 20:19:50 -0400, Patrick Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I realized this has been covered before, but I haven't found an answer that satisfies what I am trying to do. Basically, I want to create a header that always remains on the top of the screen, and the page cont

Re: [css-d] CSS creating Frames effect

2005-05-20 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:19 PM 5/20/2005, Patrick Jackson wrote: I realized this has been covered before, but I haven't found an answer that satisfies what I am trying to do. Basically, I want to create a header that always remains on the top of the screen, and the page content scrolls underneath it. http://fluid

Re: [css-d] CSS creating Frames effect

2005-05-20 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:19 PM 5/20/2005, Patrick Jackson wrote: I realized this has been covered before, but I haven't found an answer that satisfies what I am trying to do. Basically, I want to create a header that always remains on the top of the screen, and the page content scrolls underneath it. I took a cr

[css-d] CSS creating Frames effect

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick Jackson
Hi all - I realized this has been covered before, but I haven't found an answer that satisfies what I am trying to do. Basically, I want to create a header that always remains on the top of the screen, and the page content scrolls underneath it. I took a crack at it on my own, and produced thi

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread Uwe Kaiser
Roger Roelofs schrieb: Shawn, On May 20, 2005, at 5:42 PM, shawn a wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to set a portion of text so that someone cannot increase or decrease the size using their web browser. Use a picture :) Seriously, you can do it in ie/win to a point, but you _really_ sho

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... how did you change the font size without using the zoom feature. i also noticed that the page still held the design (margins, etc.) while the "other" browsers increased the margins, etc., thus blowing the design out of proportion. Sorry you had to wait for my answer.

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread dwain
David Laakso wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2005 18:41:39 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uwe Kaiser wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Am I missing something? My Opera8 pull that div upwards just like FF when I change font-size. Opera zoom is another matter altogether. regards G

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, 20 May 2005 18:41:39 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uwe Kaiser wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Am I missing something? My Opera8 pull that div upwards just like FF when I change font-size. Opera zoom is another matter altogether. regards Georg then no, i mus

Re: [css-d] Fixed Divs in IE?

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
jack fredricks wrote: i could be mistaken...but i think there's some nice IE fixed work on Georg's site; Nice or not, but they are fixed and they are here: ...the last one is not quite there yet, waiting for relaunch of

Re: [css-d] Creating line space with out using

2005-05-20 Thread Roger Roelofs
Arnie, On May 20, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Arnie Shafer wrote: Thanks Ian, and Chris, I think I got it this time around. Use only a with the class set to how much space I want at the bottom. Is there a simple conversion to go from lf/cr to px. Or should I use some other distance measurement? I usua

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread dwain
shawn a wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to set a portion of text so that someone cannot increase or decrease the size using their web browser. thanks ~shawn a __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/ma

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread Uwe Kaiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: have you looked at the page in the different browsers? if you did, did you notice that opera 8 holds the layout at any zoom and the other browsers don't? this is the phenomenon i'm talking about. dwain The "others" are not able to zoom as Opera. Even the zooming of M

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread dwain
Uwe Kaiser wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Uwe Kaiser wrote: have you looked at the page in the different browsers? if you did, did you notice that opera 8 holds the layout at any zoom and the other browsers don't? this is the phenomenon i'm talking about. dwain Hi, Dwain I looked at the pa

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread Roger Roelofs
Shawn, On May 20, 2005, at 5:42 PM, shawn a wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to set a portion of text so that someone cannot increase or decrease the size using their web browser. Use a picture :) Seriously, you can do it in ie/win to a point, but you _really_ shouldn't. It's like locki

Re: [css-d] Creating line space with out using

2005-05-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
set margin-bottom to 1em; adjust accordingly Joel Goldstick Arnie Shafer wrote: Thanks Ian, and Chris, I think I got it this time around. Use only a with the class set to how much space I want at the bottom. Is there a simple conversion to go from lf/cr to px. Or should I use some other dist

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
only way is to make it an image... Probably a bad idea to do that Joel Goldstick shawn a wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to set a portion of text so that someone cannot increase or decrease the size using their web browser. thanks ~shawn a _

Re: [css-d] Creating line space with out using

2005-05-20 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:32 PM 5/20/2005, David Laakso wrote: If you think you're confused, you should spend some time in my head. I tried both p class and br class. The p class with padding worked with IE; p class with margin worked with good browsers. I couldn't get br class to work in IE with padding or margin.

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Does anyone know if there is a way to set a portion of text so that > someone cannot increase or decrease the size using their web browser. No, luckily enough good browsers will always allow your visitors to change the display to cater their needs. You can use Flash or text as an image though, i

Re: [css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread jack fredricks
IE doesnt resize fixed (px) fonts. All other decent browsers will resize font's regardless of what unit you specify. This is how it should be. Maybe try JS? however, if you do this, please make sure the font is readable to those with poor eyesight. Making something 14pts and fixing it is nicer

Re: [css-d] Creating line space with out using

2005-05-20 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:41 PM 5/20/2005, Arnie Shafer wrote: Thanks Ian, and Chris, I think I got it this time around. Use only a with the class set to how much space I want at the bottom. Is there a simple conversion to go from lf/cr to px. Or should I use some other distance measurement? Using pixels assume

[css-d] user adjusted font sizing in browsers

2005-05-20 Thread shawn a
Does anyone know if there is a way to set a portion of text so that someone cannot increase or decrease the size using their web browser. thanks ~shawn a __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [css-d] Creating line space with out using

2005-05-20 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, 20 May 2005 15:41:29 -0400, Arnie Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Ian, and Chris, I think I got it this time around. Use only a with the class set to how much space I want at the bottom. Is there a simple conversion to go from lf/cr to px. Or should I use some other dist

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread dwain
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here's the url for the phenomenon page: http://s108254362.onlinehome.us/index2 Am I missing something? My Opera8 pull that div upwards just like FF when I change font-size. Opera zoom is another matter altogether. regards Georg then no, i must be

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread dwain
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: thinks Opera 8 is wrong in not pulling that div upwards. It has a negative top margin set in em. When you increase the font-size, the computed value for that margin-top becomes bigger, and the div will be put upwards. On the other side, Opera increases *all* elements

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread dwain
Uwe Kaiser wrote: Hi dwain, http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/support/Training/Online/webdesign/css.html Most tutorials are suitable for beginners, too. regards, Uwe Kaiser have you looked at the page in the different browsers? if you did, did you notice that opera 8 holds the layout at any zoom and th

Re: [css-d] Creating line space with out using

2005-05-20 Thread Arnie Shafer
Thanks Ian, and Chris, I think I got it this time around. Use only a with the class set to how much space I want at the bottom. Is there a simple conversion to go from lf/cr to px. Or should I use some other distance measurement? Thanks loads! Arnie - Original Message - From: "Chri

Re: [css-d] Z-index, Vertical Items

2005-05-20 Thread Justin Reid
Paul Debban: > When looking at IE bugs, I always start by adding or subtract > position:relative properties. I had actually read a similar solution earlier this week on this list. For some reason I didn't think it would apply to my situation. Well, it is exactly what I was looking for, THANKS! I

Re: [css-d] Rowspan problem

2005-05-20 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, May 20, 2005, 11:31:11 AM, Michael Cassidy wrote: > > Conklin St. Nazareth > Trade School > > Anyone see a way around this besides letting it look ugly in Explorer? Maybe I'm missing something, but have you tried setting background: in a style attribute (valid) instead of bgcolor? St

Re[2]: [css-d] IE is the bestest!

2005-05-20 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, May 20, 2005, 11:11:52 AM, Paul Seale wrote: > Does that IE ONLY tag really only work when IE reads the code or is what you > are writing a hypothetical example? http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/star_html.html "* html " target all IE (including mac), so the hack is too inclusiv

Re: [css-d] Creating line space with out using

2005-05-20 Thread Christian Heilmann
> I still don't have this simple problem cleared up. I have used a class with > the tag and it worked OK, added space(margin-bottom). I tried it using > . This did not add any space. (I am just using lf2 or lf3 to > indicate line feed. It is short and I can remember it.) > > I was told that

[css-d] Creating line space with out using

2005-05-20 Thread Arnie Shafer
I still don't have this simple problem cleared up. I have used a class with the tag and it worked OK, added space(margin-bottom). I tried it using . This did not add any space. (I am just using lf2 or lf3 to indicate line feed. It is short and I can remember it.) I was told that it was becau

[css-d] Z-index, Vertical Items

2005-05-20 Thread Justin Reid
Hey CSS-ers, I've run into a problem that I'm sure someone on this can help me with. I'm creating a calendar which uses CSS based pop ups. You can see an example of it here: http://www.justinreid.com/calendar/ You might have noticed that Firefox and Opera render the pop-ups like I would like them

Re: [css-d] IE is the bestest!

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rob Agar wrote: ...not really =0 however, there is one IE quirk I'd like to emulate in other browsers, namely IE's habit of ignoring the specified height of a block element and expanding it to fit its contents. anyone know how this can be done? Try "display: table;". Although not working perfectly

Re: [css-d] Background Image Printing

2005-05-20 Thread Kimberly Batteau
I haven't documented experiences with printing the bg images, but I suspect it's being handled the same as when you Save the page in a browser. As a rule, when the bg is specified within the CSS, it is not saved. When it is secified in the HTML it is saved. The only exception I know of is the iCab

Re: [css-d] Background Image Printing

2005-05-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The browser has the option to print or not print backgrounds. The user sets it in fire fox by selecting Page Setup. In IE 6 it is set under Tools-->Internet Options, then look down the see print background images I've not checked how to do it in other browsers. If this isn't good enough, creat

RE: [css-d] IE is the bestest!

2005-05-20 Thread Paul Novitski
Paul, Yes, IE appears to be the only browser [family] that processes CSS selectors that indicate a parent to the html element. Therefore: * html [anything] is correctly ignored by all other browsers but erroneously processed by IE as though the asterisk weren't there. (I'm not enthrall

Re: [css-d] Background Image Printing

2005-05-20 Thread Christian Heilmann
> My goal is to have one of the background images display when printed, but > obviously background images don't print. > > Any ideas? You can print background images, it is a browser setting: http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=19 OFF Topic though.

[css-d] Background Image Printing

2005-05-20 Thread Jeff Clark
My goal is to have one of the background images display when printed, but obviously background images don't print. Any ideas? Jeff -- The name's Jeff. I've got a website. http://www.vacantcanvas.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [css-d] Floats vs. Positioning

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
jordan WOLLMAN wrote: I've been experimenting with CSS trying to do a 3 column layout, (you all know the story) and have come across a number of problems with floats. Here is the design in question: http://extranet.ariamedia.com/projects/ariamedia/web/design3/ If there is a better and/or easie

Re: [css-d] Replacing multiple

2005-05-20 Thread Arnie Shafer
Thanks Ian. That makes sense to me. Arnie Please visit the Shafer Family Web site at: http://abshafer.com - Original Message - From: "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arnie Shafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: RE: [css-d] Replacing multiple I be

[css-d] Fixed Divs in IE?

2005-05-20 Thread Jack Keller
I like the effect of having fixed elements on a page in certain cases. A guy I chat with from time to time is working on a redesign for one of his sites and I suggested doing his navigation and header fixed and let the content only scroll. Here's what he came up with, works in Firefox but no g

Re: [css-d] Rowspan problem

2005-05-20 Thread Schalk Neethling
Michael Have a look at this article: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/zebratables/ Michael Cassidy wrote: I'm trying to stick to the following doc type on my www set: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-HTML40/strict.dtd";> I am coding three pages of the 1925 NYS Census. Its a BIG table. I have used both co

[css-d] Replacing multiple

2005-05-20 Thread Arnie Shafer
http://abshafer.com/text.html CSS; style.css Please see the first main paragraph. I have been experimenting with replacing multiple br's with margin-bottom of varying heights. For some reason, this code will not work. but this does  . In both cases the css is : .lf2{ margin-bottom: 20px;} .l

[css-d] Rowspan problem

2005-05-20 Thread Michael Cassidy
I'm trying to stick to the following doc type on my www set: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-HTML40/strict.dtd";> I am coding three pages of the 1925 NYS Census. Its a BIG table. I have used both colspan and rowspan. Both Safari and Explorer see them. but Explorer see it very weirdly. table.census tr.even

[css-d] Floats vs. Positioning

2005-05-20 Thread jordan WOLLMAN
I've been experimenting with CSS trying to do a 3 column layout, (you all know the story) and have come across a number of problems with floats. Here is the design in question: http://extranet.ariamedia.com/projects/ariamedia/web/design3/ If there is a better and/or easier way to accomplish what

RE: [css-d] IE is the bestest!

2005-05-20 Thread Paul Seale
Does that IE ONLY tag really only work when IE reads the code or is what you are writing a hypothetical example? It would be great if there was something like that (pardon my ignorance, I have simply not read anything that would allow me to show code to specific browsers). Paul Seale -Origina

Re: [css-d] new 3 col layout with header and footer

2005-05-20 Thread luciash
Peter Williams wrote: -Original Message- From: luciash http://www.ground.cz/luci/css/my3cols.html i've successfuly tested it in MSIE 6.0 Luci, I sent you a screencap off-list of what happens in Win XP/IE6. The content runs over the footer. hi again, actually the content didn't run

[css-d] managing your css

2005-05-20 Thread Mike Stenhouse
Hi all I hope I'm not out of line but I've just launched a knowledge site with a couple of CSS articles: Modular CSS http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/index.php?id=12&s=Articles A CSS Framework http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/index.php?id=17&s=Articles I saw the framework question come up her

Re: [css-d] Trying to marry up a list and a border

2005-05-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Alice Dryden schrieb: I've got my links set up as a tab-effect unordered list, and I'd like them to snug up under the bottom border of the 'Baile-na-Cille' header with no space between, to look as if they're attached to it. I thought this would be a simple case of zero bottom margin on the header a

Re: [css-d] height issues - can't get elemnt to go all the way down to bottom

2005-05-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Christopher Harris schrieb: I looked at that page - and my head hurt. From: Ingo Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Harris schrieb: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure, I think that's the peek-a-boo: http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html Ingo Hi Christopher, you might find a solution

Re: [css-d] Photo Disappears in IE6

2005-05-20 Thread Duane Nelson
On 19 May 2005 at 19:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Problem: Within IE6 (FF and IE5 are fine), when I place > > the pointer over the third > > and fourth link within a list, a portion of the randomly > > loaded picture aligned to the > > right vanishes. > > Looks like the HasLayout Bug. > * ht

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here's the url for the phenomenon page: http://s108254362.onlinehome.us/index2 Am I missing something? My Opera8 pull that div upwards just like FF when I change font-size. Opera zoom is another matter altogether. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no _

[css-d] Trying to marry up a list and a border

2005-05-20 Thread Alice Dryden
Hi list, long time no speak but I could use some help on my current project, a simple little page - or so I thought. I've got my links set up as a tab-effect unordered list, and I'd like them to snug up under the bottom border of the 'Baile-na-Cille' header with no space between, to look as if the

Re: [css-d] new 3 col layout with header and footer

2005-05-20 Thread luciash
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On 20 May 2005, at 4:40 pm, luciash wrote: i'm just wondering there's no @import support for MSIE 5.2 on Mac ? IE Mac supports the @import correctly, but doesn't support the syntax you use (namely the single ') thank you, i've u

[css-d] Not 'Peekaboo' disappearing content?

2005-05-20 Thread Mark Carter
Hi, I have an anomaly on my page which appears on IE5.01, IE5.5 and IE6 on win, yet if you click off the page and then come back to it the anomaly has gone! I've read up on the 'Peekaboo' bug, as my code has a float, but my problem appears in all three versions of IE, not just v6. My page and st

RE: [css-d] A Pure CSS Menu - IE not following z-index to render over other divs [solved]

2005-05-20 Thread KevinN
Just by adding a z-index of a higher value to the #header div fixes IE's handling of behind the divs hiding of the list sub-menus. Rob Agar wrote: > hi Kevin, > >> Would anyone have a solution to a pure CSS menu flyout not showing >> above divs on IE6? (or lower versions) > > I've just had this

Re: [css-d] [ot] page breaks in all but opera 8

2005-05-20 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 19 May 2005, at 10:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i had a negative margin set for a div to position it. when i zoomed the text, the negative div broke the design (crawling up the page) in all of the browsers except opera 8. the opera 8 page stayed together and resized all of the elements i

Re: [css-d] new 3 col layout with header and footer

2005-05-20 Thread luciash
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Hi Luci, Did you check the wiki? http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts yes, i did. i know this very well :) I believe this one is the last entry: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/challenge/3cols/default.asp i think i've seen it once but imho it's dif

Re: [css-d] new 3 col layout with header and footer

2005-05-20 Thread luciash
brian ally wrote: looks fine in moz 1.7.5/linux Also good in FF 1.04, Safari 1.3, Opera 7.54 (OS X) No styles for Explorer 5.2 ;-) thanks for report from Mac OS X. i'm just wondering there's no @import support for MSIE 5.2 on Mac ? luci -- :. :.: ::: : luciash d' being aka luci alias Lukas Masek __

RE: [css-d] IE is the bestest!

2005-05-20 Thread Rob Agar
Paul Novitski wrote > It sounds as though you might be looking for a minimum height > but not a > maximum, izzat right? > > #blob > { > min-height: 100px; > } > /* IE ONLY */ > * html #blob > { > height: 100px; > } that's the proverbial badger. thanks, Paul! Rob ___