[css-d] wrapping woes - paras containing preformatted phrases - IE7

2008-04-15 Thread Trevor Nicholls
Hello Scattered liberally throughout my webpages one will find pieces of application code which have been marked up as span class=preformatted. The preformatted class is used for code which may occupy a single word, or may extend over several lines. For this reason carriage returns and whitespace

Re: [css-d] when are 2 external css called for?

2008-04-15 Thread david
Bill Brown wrote: John wrote: [snip] This has been an excellent thing for me to learn in my greenhorn-hood.. As I adjust my pages to work with this new combined style sheet, I'm adding id=index to every instance of my p tags; my space after design employs a pparagraph's worth

Re: [css-d] wrapping woes - paras containing preformatted phrases - IE7

2008-04-15 Thread Trevor Nicholls
Following on from the previous post, I should probably put up an example to show why I am not using pre-wrap instead of pre. These two examples illustrate: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tmjpbn/prefprew.html http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tmjpbn/prefprew1.html The prefprew version has div.fragment

[css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Lensco
Hello guys girls, new to this list. Observe: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ Short story: a right float within a left float looks different in Safari compared to Firefox and IE. So, who is right here? Is there a way to get them to behave the same? Fixed widths are not an option. My

Re: [css-d] Full-height left column in fluid layout.

2008-04-15 Thread Richard Grevers
On 4/15/08, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Grevers wrote: Having had problems with onetruelayout before, I tried Gunlaug's companion column example. FYI: companion column is not mine. It's Ingo Chao's (linked to from my site). I stand corrected. (Sorry Ingo!) But I

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: IE 6 / CSS Zen Garden Project

2008-04-15 Thread Valerie Wininger
In IE6 the layout is fine, but instead of a drop shadow behind the container div, I see a solid gray border. You can see a screen shot here: http://valeriewininger.com/css_list/ssCssZenGarden.jpg Valerie www.valeriewininger.com On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Alan K Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: IE 6 / CSS Zen Garden Project

2008-04-15 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Thanks. I'm using a PNG file in the background and had a .htc file call in the HTML which I removed, so now the transparency doesn't show in IE6 - the .htc file was causing it not to layout right. I will resort to using a different image file format for the reasons mentioned as well as the fact,

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Lensco wrote: Observe: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ Short story: a right float within a left float looks different in Safari compared to Firefox and IE. So, who is right here? Is there a way to get them to behave the same? Fixed widths are not an option.

Re: [css-d] Full-height left column in fluid layout.

2008-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Grevers wrote: Since the footer has a child it was easiest to fake the left column by giving the child the same left margin and moving the background. That's easier than stacking, yes. Also a number of contradicting styles in your page, which makes it less cooperative. I don't have

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: IE 6 / CSS Zen Garden Project

2008-04-15 Thread David Laakso
Elli Vizcaino wrote: http://e7flux.com/csszengarden/chaoticspring.html You have height:1%; on the below selector. You may (?) want to feed that only to IE/6, as compliant browsers might do better without it at +2 font-scaling. .p5 { height: 1%; }

Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 65, Issue 20

2008-04-15 Thread christianz
This has been an excellent thing for me to learn in my greenhorn-hood.. As I adjust my pages to work with this new combined style sheet, I'm adding id=index to every instance of my p tags; my space after design employs a pparagraph's worth of text/p pparagraph's worth of text/p, so

[css-d] DTD- from ccs-d Vol 65, Issue 17

2008-04-15 Thread Doreen Cowan
I'm not sure if this is the correct place for my question but here goes... The other day David was helping Keith with a coding problem and he recommended the following re: http://bsaroundtable.com/ /Part/ of the difficulty may be that the file is in quirksmode. Delete this: html !--!DOCTYPE

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Lensco
My opinion: Safari is the most consistent - although it adds some extra padding for no reason? Could you clarify that ? In the meantime I updated the testcase and added screenshots for IE7, FF3 and Opera: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ Safari seems to add some extra 'padding' to the

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Alan Gresley
Lensco wrote: Hello guys girls, new to this list. Observe: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ Short story: a right float within a left float looks different in Safari compared to Firefox and IE. So, who is right here? Is there a way to get them to behave the same? Fixed widths are not

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Alan Gresley
Lensco wrote: My opinion: Safari is the most consistent - although it adds some extra padding for no reason? Could you clarify that ? In the meantime I updated the testcase and added screenshots for IE7, FF3 and Opera: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ Safari seems to add some extra

[css-d] Single floated list with forced row clear in IE

2008-04-15 Thread Timothy Kelty
Having trouble with this one... Example here: http://geniuscar.com/old/tests/iefloat.html I just have a single UL with all the LIs all floated left. I want to be able to force a second row at a given point in the list, so I applied a clear:left to first element I want in the 2nd row. This

Re: [css-d] Single floated list with forced row clear in IE

2008-04-15 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Timothy Kelty wrote: Example here: http://geniuscar.com/old/tests/iefloat.html I just have a single UL with all the LIs all floated left. I want to be able to force a second row at a given point in the list, so I applied a clear:left to first element I want

Re: [css-d] Full-height left column in fluid layout.

2008-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ic/test_08_0415.html It sometimes stops to dynamically resize (stays small) in your favourite browser (9.27 win xp). You mean vertically? The lose 100% height initially (or what one should call it) bug? Can't check in any browser on winXP now.

[css-d] IE table-layout bug? (Was: IE table column width)

2008-04-15 Thread Manfred Staudinger
I have posted this before, but could not find anything in the meantime: IE6 and IE7 seem to add any horizontal padding for td to the width for the col element. Test case: http://test.rudolphina.org/col-width.html Questions: - Is IE 6, IE 7 in accordance with the specification or is it a bug? -

[css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread John Griessen
David Laakso wrote: You have height:1%; on the below selector. You may (?) want to feed that only to IE/6, as compliant browsers might do better without it at +2 font-scaling. .p5 { height: 1%; } I have a restructuredtext generated site that now looks as intended in firefox, but

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Bill Brown
I have a restructuredtext generated site that now looks as intended in firefox, but not in the IE that is installed with Win2K. IE seems to ignore the css positioning of a list and an image hyperlink. http://ecosensory.com/ Hi John, You can use this syntax to target all NON-MSIE

[css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread Carol Huddleston
I'm still going through the Beginning CSS Web Development book. I have two problems, but I have to get the first one answered before I can go on to the second one. I am working through an exercise that uses a background image with a repeat-y to create faux columns. Here is the page:

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread neal
instead of css-d@lists.css-discuss.org #container { background:url(/images/faux.gif) repeat-y; } try this: #container { background:url(../images/faux.gif) repeat-y; } ~Neal life is certain death is short ~furry lewis

[css-d] Text Sizing and Div Height

2008-04-15 Thread Chris Morse
Hello All, How do I keep my divs the same height if the user resizes the text to go beyond the min-height property? This looks perfect until the text size gets too large then it all blows up: http://aan.einfosystems.net/blocks.htm And I have a feeling that it doesn't look right in IE6 even

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread Jack Timmons
I meant one of two things, in this case the likely candidate being B. Sometimes I forget to express the full idea when I'm doing a quick site check amongst my own projects. -Jack Timmons On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Brian Ogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not true the image does exist

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Manfred Staudinger
On 15/04/2008, John Griessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manfred Staudinger wrote: Hi John, If you want to select IE6 and IE7, but not IE8 nor IE5.5 or IE5.01 then you might use !--[if lte IE 7]![if gte IE 6] style type=text/css css here /style ![endif]![endif]-- Thanks,

Re: [css-d] IE6 IE7 together [was: Text Sizing and Div Height]

2008-04-15 Thread Alan K Baker
Chris. You can run IE6 and IE7 and a few others side-by-side, I'm doing it right now. :-) See: http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE Regards, Alan. www.theatreorgans.co.uk www.virtualtheatreorgans.com Admin: ConnArtistes, UKShopsmiths, 2nd Touch A-P groups Shopsmith 520 + bits Flatulus

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Manfred Staudinger
On 15/04/2008, Bill Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use this syntax to target all NON-MSIE browsers: !--[if !IE] -- style type=text/css@import url(css/fix/non_msie.css);/style !-- ![endif]-- Thats definitely an unnecessary hack. The correct (although proprietary) syntax would be:

[css-d] Blog menu overlapping header

2008-04-15 Thread Bambi Vincent
Hello everyone, I'm very new at this. My site is Thiefhunters in Paradise, http://bobarno.com/thiefhunters . You'll see right away that the top menu now overlaps the header image. I don't know where else to start looking to fix it. The header.php and style.css file seem fine, but I'm not

Re: [css-d] Text Sizing and Div Height

2008-04-15 Thread Bill Brown
Chris Morse wrote: [snip] How do I keep my divs the same height if the user resizes the text to go beyond the min-height property? [snip] http://aan.einfosystems.net/blocks.htm [snip] And I have a feeling that it doesn't look right in IE6 even with the default text size. (It is a real pain

Re: [css-d] Blog menu overlapping header

2008-04-15 Thread Bill Brown
How it happened: I added the Wordpress plugin WP Admin Bar Reloaded to my blog, adding a little bit of code to style.css and to header.php, as instructed athttp://onemansblog.com/2007/04/08/wordpress-plugin-wp-admin-bar-reloaded/ That created the mess. Therefore, I removed the plugin

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] discuss.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brown Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:27 PM To: Manfred Staudinger Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org; John Griessen Subject: Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Nicholas Wilson
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 12:58 am Thierry Koblentz wrote: What about a simple: !--[if !IE] ... anything at all, including css here ![endif]-- Or am I totally missing something here? Could be me ;) But then every browser would ignore it, which is presumably not what you want.

[css-d] CSS Background Image Not Wide Enough

2008-04-15 Thread Carol Huddleston
Thank you all very much for your help with my background image, I've now got it displaying on the page. Now for my next problem: I am trying to use the background image as a faux column. The width of the image is supposed to total 760 pixels (180px for the dark gray column, 20 px blank,

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Nicholas Wilson
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 1:09 am John Griessen wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: What about a simple: !--[if !IE] ... anything at all, including css here ![endif]-- This short one looks good... As I understand this, it goes in default.css, so what else besides css code would you want

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread David Laakso
1/ Regarding Conditional Comments, see: Microsoft Developer Network http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512(VS.85).aspx 2/ Regarding using Conditional Comments to feed hacks to IE, see: On havingLayout (scroll down a little to: Alternatively, and possibly more future proof, are