[css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Ellen Herzfeld
Hello all, I'm starting work on a new look for a large site that I did a number of years ago. This time, it's HTML5 for the semantics, and a bit of CSS3 or -moz and -webkit stuff. I develop on a Mac using Firefox, but test everything in Safari, Chrome and Opera (for Mac). On Windows (WMWare

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On May 21, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Ellen Herzfeld wrote: For IE Mac, I don't know what to do. I would like to serve it the same simplified stylesheet but it seems conditional comments don't work for IE Mac. What would be the best alternative that will leave the smallest footprint in my html? I

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Joergen W. Lang
Ignore it. IE5.x/Mac is dead. J. Am 21.05.10 13:33, schrieb Ellen Herzfeld: For IE Mac, I don't know what to do. I would like to serve it the same simplified stylesheet but it seems conditional comments don't work for IE Mac. What would be the best alternative that will leave the smallest

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 3:54 PM +0200 5/21/10, Joergen W. Lang wrote: Ignore it. IE5.x/Mac is dead. So, some would say, is IE5.0/Win, and yet just last year I had a client whose user traffic was 14% IE5.0/Win. That translated to approximately one million users per month. Based on what I know of their

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
For IE I'm using conditional comments. Actually, the design is, at this point, quite simple and I haven't needed many lines in the IE specific stylesheets up to now, even for IE6. The previous version of the site was done in 2003 and 2004. I used the usual hacks when needed and tested at

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Ellen Herzfeld
On 21 May 2010, at 15:00, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On May 21, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Ellen Herzfeld wrote: For IE Mac, I don't know what to do. I would like to serve it the same simplified stylesheet but it seems conditional comments don't work for IE Mac. What would be the best

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Ellen Herzfeld
On 21 May 2010, at 17:09, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Bravo for trying to support as many browsers as possible, and for *not* considering the universal ie6 styles sheet for IE6. And when using it for IE5, you may want to remove/ignore some of the rules in there: the CSS expression, all the

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread David Laakso
Ellen Herzfeld wrote: Ellen P.S. To see the old site: http://www.quarante-deux.org/ To see the first new page on the test server : http://ansible.xlii.org/quarante-deux/index5.html Ellen, Fwiw in your first new page the background-image is a no-show in the current

Re: [css-d] how do i center this /?

2010-05-21 Thread Matthew P. Johnson
Your right. My bad I should have tested before posting. I assumed the vert position was meant from the top of page not top of nav. Thank you David. Have a great weekend. Sincerely, Matthew P. Johnson | Eco I.T. 320 Warwick Avenue Oakland CA 94610 | 415.254.1563 | ecoitsf.com Sent from my

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Philip TAYLOR
David Laakso wrote: Fwiw in your first new page the background-image is a no-show in the current versions of Camino, Opera, SeaMonkey, and Mac IE/5.2. I did not look at the page in a PC. If the background image is

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote: Ellen Herzfeld wrote: Ellen P.S. To see the old site: http://www.quarante-deux.org/ To see the first new page on the test server : http://ansible.xlii.org/quarante-deux/index5.html Ellen, Fwiw in your first new page the background-image is a

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Ellen Herzfeld
On 21 May 2010, at 19:34, David Laakso wrote: Ellen, Fwiw in your first new page the background-image is a no-show in the current versions of Camino, Opera, SeaMonkey, and Mac IE/5.2. I did not look at the page in a PC. If by background-image you mean the .png to the left of the

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Ellen Herzfeld wrote: Seamonkey I don't have. Should I? Well, I never use anything else, being a reluctant migrant from Netscape 4. It's based on the same rendering engine as Firefox (i.e., Gecko) but includes an integrated e-mail client without which I simply could not live ... Philip

[css-d] IE Problem has been killing my social life...

2010-05-21 Thread Jan West
Hi List, I have a page that seems to have a has layout bug in IE, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to track down the problem child. The page is www.neptac.org/employment and you can see that the page has a horizontal scrollbar showing up in IE7. It's not there in Firefox. It

Re: [css-d] IE Problem has been killing my social life...

2010-05-21 Thread David Laakso
Jan West wrote: The page is www.neptac.org/employment and you can see that the page has a horizontal scrollbar showing up in IE7. Jan Checked only on a local file, try: *:first-child+html #tablefooter {overflow-x: hidden;} Best, ~d -- desktop

Re: [css-d] Serving universal ie6 stylesheet to IE5, IE5.5 and IE Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Bravo for trying to support as many browsers as possible, and for *not* considering the universal ie6 styles sheet for IE6. And when using it for IE5, you may want to remove/ignore some of the rules in there: the CSS expression, all the elements that you know would not be part of your