[css-d] to center a fixed width website

2008-02-07 Thread Lee Bettridge
Hello, I have a quick n easy CSS question. I want to make a website that is fixed to 800px width. What is the best, cross browser compatible way, to center it ? Is their a better way of doing it than this ? html head titletest/title /head body style #test { width: 800px; } /style div id=base

Re: [css-d] to center a fixed width website

2008-02-07 Thread Matthew Taylor
Hi Lee, The best way to center a website is to center the body then add a left and right auto margin on your wrapper div. In the wrapper div you should set the text-align back to left otherwise all your text will be centered: body { text-align:center; } #wrapper { margin:0 auto;

[css-d] Site check please

2008-02-07 Thread Bill Stemp
http://www.pielows.co.za/ I'm particularly interested in how one section of the site appears in IE6 (or before). This section is accessed with the menu link '_*Cape Tours*_' and has a CSS-driven menu on the left. I think that this menu's background is not correctly aligned in IE6, but cannot

Re: [css-d] PNG repeating background in IE

2008-02-07 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:10:14 +1300, Karl Hardisty wrote: [...] The layout works fine in many browsers apart from the aforementioned, due to a transparent PNG being present in the css. Is there any way I can keep the general look and have it work somehow in IE of yore? HTML here:

[css-d] start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Is there a way to start an ordered list at anything other than 1? I'm having a problem with QA type of page that numbers the questions, but it also needs some blubs between the questions. Kind of like below: ol liblahblah?br fieldset /li need to insert yadayada lianother question

Re: [css-d] Need help with a Firefox issue

2008-02-07 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:56:22 -0800, Big Moxy wrote: Hi All, I'm puzzled by the appearance of 4 addition hr in the Featured Vehicle section of http://www.cargovango.com/Inventory/Default.aspx. This is common code and the problem doesn't show up elsewhere. CSS: hr {display:none;} /*

Re: [css-d] start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-07 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Is there a way to start an ordered list at anything other than 1? I'm having a problem with QA type of page that numbers the questions, but it also needs some blubs between the questions. Kind of like below: ol liblahblah?br fieldset /li need to

Re: [css-d] to center a fixed width website

2008-02-07 Thread Ingo Chao
Arlen Walker wrote: On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Lee Bettridge wrote: Is their a better way of doing it than this ? Oh great googily-moogily yes. CSS html { text-align: center; } body { width: 800px; margin-right: auto; margin-left: auto; text- align: left; } (Why use a wrapper div

Re: [css-d] changing IMG SRC attribute value via CSS stylesheets?

2008-02-07 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:58:23 -0500, Rob Emenecker wrote: Hey all, I have a sight that I am working on that uses separate screen and print CSS stylesheets. The screen version has a graphic that is white with a drop shadow that appears over a background graphic. For the print version, if

Re: [css-d] Site check please choubidou

2008-02-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sébastien FICHOT wrote: I've released a website for SQL makers. Can someone check this website please ? www.guss.fr It's aways interesting to have more eyes on things that can broke accessibility or reliability between platforms and way-of-thinking. I *think* there are a few too many

[css-d] Site check please choubidou

2008-02-07 Thread Sébastien FICHOT
HI everyone ! I've released a website for SQL makers. Can someone check this website please ? www.guss.fr It's aways interesting to have more eyes on things that can broke accessibility or reliability between platforms and way-of-thinking. Thank you ! http://www.guss.fr Sébastien Fichot

Re: [css-d] Maximum value for em

2008-02-07 Thread Jason Crosse
On 07/02/2008 15:53, Geoffrey Hoffman wrote: Just speaking off the top of my head here... The size of an em is derived from the text size of the container. I haven't actually calculated it but say if your font-size is 12px then an em is about the same, or at least proportional to it. By

Re: [css-d] Maximum value for em

2008-02-07 Thread Roger Gordon
Actually, Geoffrey, you are correct in the case of modern standards compliant browsers. The text-align: center is for the benefit of IE6 (and lower, I presume) which doesn't seem to obey margin:auto too well. By using the approach mentioned above (text-align: center on the body, and margin: 0 auto

Re: [css-d] to center a fixed width website

2008-02-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Arlen Walker wrote: (Why use a wrapper div when you have one built in to the document structure?) Well, if we don't use a wrapper div it'll only work in standard mode, in which case the 'text-align: center;' on html and 'text-align: left;' on body won't do anything and are better left out. A

Re: [css-d] Site check please

2008-02-07 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:33:50 +0200, Bill Stemp wrote: http://www.pielows.co.za/ I'm particularly interested in how one section of the site appears in IE6 (or before). This section is accessed with the menu link '_*Cape Tours*_' and has a CSS-driven menu on the left. I think that this

Re: [css-d] to center a fixed width website

2008-02-07 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:42:46 -0700, Geoffrey Hoffman wrote: If you have a div id wrapper with width:800px margin:0 auto; isn't the text- align:center redundant? I've only ever used #wrapper { margin:0 auto; width:800px; text-align:left; } I've never put text-align:center on body. The

[css-d] changing IMG SRC attribute value via CSS stylesheets?

2008-02-07 Thread Rob Emenecker
Hey all, I have a sight that I am working on that uses separate screen and print CSS stylesheets. The screen version has a graphic that is white with a drop shadow that appears over a background graphic. For the print version, if user's have background colors/graphics turned off in their

Re: [css-d] bullet list problem in Safari, IE; space in IE

2008-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
Try adding list-style-type: none; to the li you want to not have bullets. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies --

Re: [css-d] PNG repeating background in IE

2008-02-07 Thread Jim Davis
Karl, Here is a link that may help. Not sure if this method will work for a repeating background image. http://www.belafontecode.com/create-transparent-pngs-in-ie6-using-alphaimageloader-no-hacks/ Jim On Feb 7, 2008 1:10 AM, Karl Hardisty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm back in the fold after a

Re: [css-d] CSS directed at Firefox Mac or just FIrefox PC

2008-02-07 Thread Mark Story
Pat Veriepe wrote: I've been having slight spacing issues between Mac and PC with Firefox. Is there any way to address them separately through CSS? Thanks, Pat __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope. As far as CSS is

[css-d] PNG repeating background in IE

2008-02-07 Thread Karl Hardisty
I'm back in the fold after a break of 2-3 years, and much has changed. Unfortunately, this doesn't include IE5.5 and IE6. I have a layout I'm partial to, and have been experimenting with in the early stages, but have come across something I'm not sure how to fix. I've reduced the code

[css-d] CSS directed at Firefox Mac or just FIrefox PC

2008-02-07 Thread Pat Veriepe
I've been having slight spacing issues between Mac and PC with Firefox. Is there any way to address them separately through CSS? Thanks, Pat __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

[css-d] bullet list problem in Safari, IE; space in IE

2008-02-07 Thread Matt Jalbert
I am trying to solve a problem with bullets in a list, and some spacing problems. On this page: http://tinyurl.com/289um4 in Firefox, the bullets in front of Read all about... and Contact: (510)... show up fine in Firefox (Mac, PC), but not in Safari (Mac) or IE (PC). The CSS is here:

Re: [css-d] Suckerfish Drop-Down breaks on IE6

2008-02-07 Thread Ingo Chao
John Gribben wrote: Hello, I'm trying to make a sucker-fish-style drop-down menu (a hybrid that also uses sprites for the top level items), but it's not working on IE6. There seems to be a problem with the content div that sits immediately below the menu. If I isolate the menu from

Re: [css-d] start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-07 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:50:56 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Is there a way to start an ordered list at anything other than 1? I'm having a problem with QA type of page that numbers the questions, but it also needs some blubs between the questions. Kind of like below: ol

Re: [css-d] CSS directed at Firefox Mac or just FIrefox PC

2008-02-07 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Not 100% sure but I think you might be able to with conditional comments. Hopefully someone with more insight answers you. --- Pat Veriepe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having slight spacing issues between Mac and PC with Firefox. Is there any way to address them separately through

Re: [css-d] changing IMG SRC attribute value via CSS stylesheets?

2008-02-07 Thread Rob Emenecker
David, That is a great suggestion... re: if styles are disabled. Thanks! ...Rob -Original Message- From: David Hucklesby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:52 PM To: Rob Emenecker; 'CSS Discussion' Subject: Re: [css-d] changing IMG SRC attribute value via

Re: [css-d] Maximum value for em

2008-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
I thought that may have something to do with it, and appreciate the reply. I'm limited by not having access to a computer with IE 6 anymore :-/ On Feb 7, 2008 12:15 PM, Roger Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, in part: The text-align: center is for the benefit of IE6 (and lower, I presume)

Re: [css-d] changing IMG SRC attribute value via CSS stylesheets?

2008-02-07 Thread Joel Goldstick
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? ...Rob I think your idea of two images is fine. There was an article on ALA: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites which might also be of interest. Concatinate the logos, then display just the portion you want in each CSS

Re: [css-d] Maximum value for em

2008-02-07 Thread Richard Mason
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Geoffrey Hoffman wrote ust speaking off the top of my head here... The size of an em is derived from the text size of the container. I haven't actually calculated it but say if your font-size is 12px then an em is about the same, or at least proportional to it. One em is

Re: [css-d] Text refusing to be bold in Firefox and IE

2008-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
If your page and rules are valid, look at your page in Firebug. It shows you the styles in the heirarchy of inheritance, and crosses off rules that have been overridden by styles on parent containers/elements. Something above, eg at a higer importance level, is applying font-style:normal. That is

Re: [css-d] PNG repeating background in IE

2008-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
I am fairly certain that the PNG alpha trick that dynamically places a filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader on your site's png files does not work on repeating backgrounds. Search on IE6 transparent png on google and there's hundreds of helpful articles. If your site uses

Re: [css-d] Maximum value for em

2008-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
Sure you can use em, ex, % for relative fluid layouts all you like. The best reason to do so if you want your site to expand and contract nicely along with the font size. Just speaking off the top of my head here... The size of an em is derived from the text size of the container. I haven't

[css-d] Text refusing to be bold in Firefox and IE

2008-02-07 Thread Pat Veriepe
I have two lists that refuse to be bold in Firefox and IE. No problem in Safari and Opera. Other items around them are bold. I've tried increasing the specifity to the max, !important and wrapping each line with strong tags. Any ideas?

[css-d] credit text in bottom of browser

2008-02-07 Thread Melinda Odom
Hi, Is there a way to have text appear on top of a repeating graphic in the bottom of the browser window? I have a repeating color on the body tag to x repeat which is fine and I would like to be able to put text in the center of this 50 pixel height at the browser bottom no matter what

Re: [css-d] start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-07 Thread Tim White
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:50:56 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Is there a way to start an ordered list at anything other than 1? This is really an HTML question, not CSS so I'm replying off list. You can use ol start=x (whatever number you need) to start a list at a new

[css-d] Maximum value for em

2008-02-07 Thread info
Does anyone know the allowable range of em values? Is using em for positioning (absolute or relative) a good idea? Thanks so much. John __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re: [css-d] Site check please

2008-02-07 Thread Jim Davis
Bill, The menu items don't change background color in IE6. The text color does change. Also, the pop-out for 'Tour Itineraries' is not popping out in IE6. Not sure of the cause, however. Jim On Feb 7, 2008 5:33 AM, Bill Stemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pielows.co.za/ I'm

Re: [css-d] to center a fixed width website

2008-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
If you have a div id wrapper with width:800px margin:0 auto; isn't the text-align:center redundant? I've only ever used #wrapper { margin:0 auto; width:800px; text-align:left; } I've never put text-align:center on body. Actually all you need is to specify a width (it can be relative or

Re: [css-d] start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-07 Thread Kathy Wheeler
On 08/02/2008, at 10:22 AM, Tim White wrote: You can use ol start=x (whatever number you need) to start a list at a new number. Or, you can use li value=x to skip numbering within a list. Both attributes are deprecated, so they are only valid under HTML 4.01 or XHTML 1.0

Re: [css-d] start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-07 Thread Jim Nannery
Tim You wrote; This is really an HTML question, not CSS so I'm replying off list. So nuch for going off list. You can use ol start=x (whatever number you need) to start a list at a new number. Or, you can use li value=x to skip numbering within a list. Both attributes are deprecated,

Re: [css-d] Text refusing to be bold in Firefox and IE

2008-02-07 Thread Pat Veriepe
Thanks Geoffrey! Firebug is a must have!!! I found my problem within seconds. Geoffrey Hoffman wrote: If your page and rules are valid, look at your page in Firebug. It shows you the styles in the heirarchy of inheritance, and crosses off rules that have been overridden by styles on parent

[css-d] IE vs FF Textarea Font Size Inconsistent

2008-02-07 Thread Michael B Allen
The font size in textarea elements on Firefox (on Linux at least) is about 70% the size of other input and select elements in the same form whereas in IE the font size is roughly the same across all form elements. I suspect this has more to do with the fact that textarea uses a courier font-family

[css-d] list bullet not showing; spacing in IE6

2008-02-07 Thread Matt Jalbert
I am trying to solve a problem with bullets in a list, and some spacing problems. On this page: http://www.sparklejet.com/clients/graybrech/_dev/mockups/home01/ the bullets in front of Read all about... and Contact: (510)... show up fine in Firefox (Mac, PC), but not in Safari (Mac) or IE

Re: [css-d] Text refusing to be bold in Firefox and IE

2008-02-07 Thread Pat Veriepe
I thought I had figured this out with Firebug, but the text is still not bold. It's a nested ul ul. The linked text saying THIS SHOULD BE BOLD is bold in Safari but not in Firefox or IE. Could this be a problem because of a bug in both browsers with nested lists? Please check out this url:

[css-d] Multi-line text after an image

2008-02-07 Thread Michael Tracey Zellmann
I have a web-page that holds several images. Each one has a description. I have the images in a ul list, each held in a li tag /li I am placing the description text right after the image, within the same li tag. I have styled the img tag with vertical-alignment: center, and it behaves the way I

Re: [css-d] Maximum value for em

2008-02-07 Thread John Lowe
Thanks for that information. What about using negative em to hide a background image or complete DIVet? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ --

Re: [css-d] start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-07 Thread Tim White
On Feb 7, 2008 7:57 PM, Jim Nannery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much for going off list. *doh* wrong button. Mea culpa. To be clear, attributes and html tags that are deprecated should only validate under HTML *Transitional* and XHTML *Transitional* Doctypes. With an HTML 4.01

Re: [css-d] Text refusing to be bold in Firefox and IE

2008-02-07 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Pat Veriepe [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I had figured this out with Firebug, but the text is still not bold. It's a nested ul ul. The linked text saying THIS SHOULD BE BOLD is bold in Safari but not in Firefox or IE. Could this be a problem because of a bug in both browsers with nested

Re: [css-d] Text refusing to be bold in Firefox and IE

2008-02-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Pat Veriepe wrote: The linked text saying THIS SHOULD BE BOLD is bold in Safari but not in Firefox or IE. Could this be a problem because of a bug in both browsers with nested lists? Please check out this url: http://veriepe.com/TEST222.html The text is simply too small to become visibly

Re: [css-d] Transitional Vs. Strict Doctype

2008-02-07 Thread Elli Vizcaino
--- Jukka K. Korpela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Quirks Mode, browser behavior can be very different from Standards Mode, especially in the treatment of CSS constructs. For a list of possible differences, see http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/quirks-mode.html Thank you all for all the

Re: [css-d] list bullet not showing; spacing in IE6

2008-02-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Feb 8, 2008, at 3:47 AM, Matt Jalbert wrote: I am trying to solve a problem with bullets in a list, and some spacing problems. On this page: http://www.sparklejet.com/clients/graybrech/_dev/mockups/home01/ the bullets in front of Read all about... and Contact: (510)... show up fine in

Re: [css-d] IE vs FF Textarea Font Size Inconsistent

2008-02-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Feb 8, 2008, at 1:43 AM, Michael B Allen wrote: The font size in textarea elements on Firefox (on Linux at least) is about 70% the size of other input and select elements in the same form whereas in IE the font size is roughly the same across all form elements. I suspect this has more to

Re: [css-d] OT start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-07 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:44:01 -0500 Tim White wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 7:57 PM, Jim Nannery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much for going off list. *doh* wrong button. Mea culpa. No, you replied to my post. And to prevent replies off list (This email address is one way = no spam) i

Re: [css-d] IE vs FF Textarea Font Size Inconsistent

2008-02-07 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:43:00 -0500 Michael B Allen wrote: The font size in textarea elements on Firefox (on Linux at least) is about 70% the size of other input and select elements in the same form whereas in IE the font size is roughly the same across all form elements. I suspect this has

Re: [css-d] Site check please

2008-02-07 Thread Bill Stemp
Since building the site, I've upgraded my IE from 6 to 7. I now have to use 'multipleIEs' (http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/multiIE.html) to check in previous versions. When the site was first uploaded, it worked fine in IE6 (with the exception of the orange menu background being a