Re: [css-d] why does right column drop

2006-01-31 Thread Peter Lindstrom
oops.. and I guess I should include how it used in my page: div id=leftcontentsome text here/div div id=centercontentnbsp;/div div id=rightcontent/div Peter Lindstrom All Analog - Technical Design Consulting Ottawa, ON Voice: 613-612-1419 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.allanalog.com  

Re: [css-d] why does right column drop

2006-01-31 Thread Christian Montoya
On 1/31/06, Peter Lindstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first attempt is a standard 3 column layout with an expanding center column. I found a great tutorial on this technique at www.glish.com . After more or less following the example there I get something very close to being correct.. but

Re: [css-d] Form Layout - better table or CSS for this one?

2006-01-31 Thread Chris Ovenden
(Taking it back onto the list, as others might be interested) I don't know if you tried your first example in Firefox, but it worked just fine. IE sometimes goes haywire on all-floated layouts, however, and putting each line inside a block element was a pretty good cure. The inputs don't need to

[css-d] why does right column drop

2006-01-31 Thread Peter Lindstrom
I am a decent PHP coder but a lousy html/css layout guy. Since I have on numerous occasions spent many many hours trying to get my table cells to be right for my page layouts; I thought I would start trying to transition to CSS layout. My first attempt is a standard 3 column layout with an

[css-d] CSS and e-mail clients

2006-01-31 Thread Sander van Surksum
Hello, Is there a guideline or a website that can show/tell me how css will display in the most common e-mailclients. I whanna make an html newsletter with a repeated background but will it work in e-mailclients? Or most I avoid css in e-mailclient? http://www.johnsten.com/test/news.html

Re: [css-d] background image peeking out from behind DIV - rounding error?

2006-01-31 Thread Ingo Chao
Don Hinshaw wrote: I have a background image on my body tag that is ostensibly the same width as the DIV that contains the main body of text and sits partially on top of the background image. The problem is that when I resize IE/Win (and Opera 8.5) to right around 850px wide, the DIV

Re: [css-d] CSS and e-mail clients

2006-01-31 Thread Ian Anderson
Sander van Surksum wrote: Is there a guideline or a website that can show/tell me how css will display in the most common e-mailclients. Try these for information: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssemail/ http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail Also, these guys have a good

[css-d] 3-column lay-out and FF-problems

2006-01-31 Thread In Tel webdesign
I need help to solve some problems in my three column layout (#foto-container #content #menu-blok) 1. When I put more text in the content-div, this flows right under the fotocontainer on the left 2. In firefox my menu items are dispayed without any space between them 3. In firefox my h1 border

Re: [css-d] background image peeking out from behind DIV - rounding error?

2006-01-31 Thread Roger Roelofs
Ingo, On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Ingo Chao wrote: Don Hinshaw wrote: The basic page is here: http://66.117.159.181/for_retailers_contact.php Centering a bg-img with background-position: center top is apparently different to centering a div with margin: 0 auto 0 auto, especially when

[css-d] Correcting for spacing difference in Opera

2006-01-31 Thread Iorhael
Hi, I am trying to line up the date stamp with the menu links on this site, but there is a vertical spacing difference between IE, Firefox, and Opera. I have coded for the IE difference but am not sure how to code for the Opera difference. Can someone help me out with this or direct me to a

Re: [css-d] Form Layout - better table or CSS for this one?

2006-01-31 Thread Roger Roelofs
Chris, On Jan 31, 2006, at 2:33 AM, Chris Ovenden wrote: I don't know if you tried your first example in Firefox, but it worked just fine. IE sometimes goes haywire on all-floated layouts, however, and putting each line inside a block element was a pretty good cure. The inputs don't need to

Re: [css-d] background image peeking out from behind DIV - rounding error?

2006-01-31 Thread Ingo Chao
Roger Roelofs wrote: Ingo, On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Ingo Chao wrote: Don Hinshaw wrote: The basic page is here: http://66.117.159.181/for_retailers_contact.php Centering a bg-img with background-position: center top is apparently different to centering a div with margin: 0 auto 0

[css-d] framed image problems in FF

2006-01-31 Thread Augusto Murri
Hi all, i've a little problem putting frames around images here : http://www.augustomurri.it//workBoard/MUSEI/scheda_museo.php# Looking this in FF the bottom frame of imgs is largely than the others.. I'm using this css : .img_container2 { float: left; border: 1px solid

Re: [css-d] Correcting for spacing difference in Opera

2006-01-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Iorhael wrote: Hi, I am trying to line up the date stamp with the menu links on this site, but there is a vertical spacing difference between IE, Firefox, and Opera. I have coded for the IE difference but am not sure how to code for the Opera difference.

Re: [css-d] framed image problems in FF

2006-01-31 Thread David Laakso
Augusto Murri wrote: http://www.augustomurri.it//workBoard/MUSEI/scheda_museo.php# Looking this in FF the bottom frame of imgs is largely than the others.. .img_container2 { float: left; border: 1px solid #D1E1EE; text-align: center; margin: 0px 3px 3px 0px; }

[css-d] centering drop down menu or not

2006-01-31 Thread Ian Young
I have used the drop down menu from http://koivi.com/css-menus/ Looks fine in FF and Opera. Also managed to change the colour of upper menu using a class on the a href. However, cannot get it to centre in IE. Any thoughts? Ian IY e-Solutions -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked

Re: [css-d] centering drop down menu or not

2006-01-31 Thread Ian Young
I have used the drop down menu from http://koivi.com/css-menus/ Looks fine in FF and Opera. Also managed to change the colour of upper menu using a class on the a href. However, cannot get it to centre in IE. Any thoughts? Ian IY e-Solutions Sorry been an idiot. draft site at

Re: [css-d] centering drop down menu or not

2006-01-31 Thread cj
On 1/31/06, Ian Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used the drop down menu from http://koivi.com/css-menus/ Looks fine in FF and Opera. Also managed to change the colour of upper menu using a class on the a href. However, cannot get it to centre in IE. Any thoughts?

Re: [css-d] centering drop down menu or not

2006-01-31 Thread Ian Young
my ie shows your menu items centered on all three levels. this isn't a fix for your ie problem (which i can't see), The menu isn't centred in IE but almost is, you need to look closely but the page took well over 10 seconds to show up in firefox, and on first view in ie it actually timed out.

Re: [css-d] centering drop down menu or not

2006-01-31 Thread cj
this isn't a fix for your ie problem (which i can't see), The menu isn't centred in IE but almost is, you need to look closely http://sltclan.com/images/cj/dinghy.png but the page took well over 10 seconds to show up in firefox, and on first view in ie it actually timed out. a refresh of

Re: [css-d] centering drop down menu or not

2006-01-31 Thread David Laakso
Ian Young wrote: I have used the drop down menu from http://koivi.com/css-menus/ Looks fine in FF and Opera. Also managed to change the colour of upper menu using a class on the a href. However, cannot get it to centre in IE. Any thoughts? Ian Sorry been an idiot. draft site at

[css-d] Table Caption Disappears - Opera 8.5

2006-01-31 Thread L. Robinson
What is it about this CSS... caption, caption a { background: url(/images/caption.gif) #69c; color: #eee; font-weight: bold; margin-left: -1px; padding: 5px; border: 1px solid #69c; } ...that makes Opera 8.5 refuse to show the caption - at all? lr

[css-d] lte IE 6 - correct coding?

2006-01-31 Thread Smith, Sarah
Hi all, Just giving IE7 a ride and my stylesheet comment: !--[if lte IE6]link href=http://www.fresnolibrary.org/ieonly.css; rel=stylesheet type=text/css /![endif]-- Is getting picked up by it. Do I have the right syntax/coding/wording on the comment? I know the browser is beta and not perfect yet,

Re: [css-d] Table Caption Disappears - Opera 8.5

2006-01-31 Thread Pringle, Ron
lr wrote: What is it about this CSS... caption, caption a { background: url(/images/caption.gif) #69c; color: #eee; font-weight: bold; margin-left: -1px; padding: 5px; border: 1px solid #69c; } ...that makes Opera 8.5 refuse to show the caption - at all? lr Its the margin-left:

Re: [css-d] lte IE 6 - correct coding?

2006-01-31 Thread Al Sparber
From: Smith, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Just giving IE7 a ride and my stylesheet comment: !--[if lte IE6]link href=http://www.fresnolibrary.org/ieonly.css; rel=stylesheet type=text/css /![endif]-- Is getting picked up by it. Do I have the right syntax/coding/wording on the comment?

Re: [css-d] lte IE 6 - correct coding?

2006-01-31 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
Hi all, Just giving IE7 a ride and my stylesheet comment: !--[if lte IE6]link href=http://www.fresnolibrary.org/ieonly.css; rel=stylesheet type=text/css /![endif]-- Is getting picked up by it. Do I have the right syntax/coding/wording on the comment? I know the browser is beta and not

Re: [css-d] CSS and e-mail clients

2006-01-31 Thread Jan Brasna
I often refer to these resources: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssemail/ http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail http://www.wilsonweb.com/wmt6/email-client-summary.htm http://www.wilsonweb.com/wmt8/email_format_preferences.htm

Re: [css-d] Table Caption Disappears - Opera 8.5

2006-01-31 Thread Pringle, Ron
To summarize, you need to feed Opera a 0px margin-left value via a hack, since IE and Firefox probably need that -1px setting due to rounding errors. Regards, Ron Hi Ron and others, What kind of hack would that be that is read by Opera but not other browsers? I'm not exactly a

Re: [css-d] Table Caption Disappears - Opera 8.5

2006-01-31 Thread bill
To summarize, you need to feed Opera a 0px margin-left value via a hack, since IE and Firefox probably need that -1px setting due to rounding errors. Regards, Ron Hi Ron and others, What kind of hack would that be that is read by Opera but not other browsers? I'm not exactly a newbie and

[css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread Bryce Fields
Test those sites now. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx -- Bryce Fields www.royalrodent.com Do or do not! There is no try! -- Yoda DISCLAIMER: All opinions expressed herein are mine, except for the ones I stole.

Re: [css-d] background image peeking out from behind DIV - rounding error?

2006-01-31 Thread Roger Roelofs
Ingo, On Jan 31, 2006, at 7:05 AM, Ingo Chao wrote: Roger Roelofs wrote: Ingo, On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Ingo Chao wrote: Don Hinshaw wrote: The basic page is here: http://66.117.159.181/ for_retailers_contact.php Centering a bg-img with background-position: center top is

[css-d] Print bug in Moz

2006-01-31 Thread Brandon Oto
Folks, Passing this along on behalf of a friend. Is this a known bug? It sounds vaguely familiar, but I can't seem to find any references. I'm trying to build a print style sheet for a new site; I'm running up against a Mozilla bug. I know about the float bug - and thought I'd worked around

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 3:20 PM -0500 1/31/06, Bryce Fields wrote: Test those sites now. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx Oh, now this is interesting: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 Preview will only run on Windows® XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) systems, but will ultimately be available for Windows

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread Tony Crockford
Eric A. Meyer wrote: But please let's not start a round of hacks are breaking! hacks are necessary! hacks are evil! on the list, especially not now. Let's find out what we have first, and let the dust settle a bit before we worry about which way to jump. And always remember that this is

[css-d] IE Layout Problem

2006-01-31 Thread Martin Davis III
my website works perfectly in Firefox. Then I load it in IE and the boarders don't show up. Any suggestions? http://www.swilly.tk/~martin/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re: [css-d] IE Layout Problem

2006-01-31 Thread James Conley
In IE7 the red borders show up but then break into pieces when I scroll the page. james c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Davis III Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:03 PM To: [css-d] CSS-Discuss.org Subject: [css-d] IE Layout

Re: [css-d] IE Layout Problem

2006-01-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Martin Davis III wrote: my website works perfectly in Firefox. Then I load it in IE and the boarders don't show up. Any suggestions? http://www.swilly.tk/~martin/ Well, nothing has changed since last time you asked that question - 2 days ago. Here's the same answer... Try adding:

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread James Conley
I am *assuming* that it will ALSO be available on Windows XP Service Pack 2 systems even though that's not listed in the will ultimately be available on list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric A. Meyer Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006

Re: [css-d] Correcting for spacing difference in Opera

2006-01-31 Thread Iorhael
Zero out default-margins before positioning, and most differences will be gone. Georg, Thanks for that ...that eliminated the difference between IE and Firefox, so I don't need the htmlbody hack anymore. However, the Opera still brings in the date stamp lower.

Re: [css-d] lte IE 6 - correct coding?

2006-01-31 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Smith, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] my stylesheet comment: !--[if lte IE6]link href=http://www.fresnolibrary.org/ieonly.css; rel=stylesheet type=text/css /![endif]-- Is getting picked up by [IE7]. Do I have the right syntax/coding/wording on the comment? Well, if the syntax you posted above

Re: [css-d] background image peeking out from behind DIV - rounding error?

2006-01-31 Thread francky
Roger Roelofs wrote: This same question came up a week or so ago and the resolution was the same. Put the bg image on the container centered with margin: 0 auto; instead of on its parent. Yes, that's what I replied this morning in a mail to Don which by accident didn't go to the list

Re: [css-d] background image peeking out from behind DIV - rounding error?

2006-01-31 Thread Ingo Chao
I still don't understand why Safari and Opera show the 'rounding error' at 800px and lower, as I have described. And with regard to my first posting: I have suggested to move the bg image from body to #wrap. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] Correcting for spacing difference in Opera

2006-01-31 Thread Iorhael
Zero out default-margins before positioning, and most differences will be gone. hupon re-opening Opera, the date stamp position looks just fine now...thanks again Georg! I must not have refreshed after making the change. Debbie

Re: [css-d] Correcting for spacing difference in Opera

2006-01-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Iorhael wrote: http://www.drkdesign.com/LVS/phpintro/ Do you know of a specific fix for Opera? Sure. A heavy one is part of this collection[1], but I won't recommend it. It's so heavy that even the validator has serious problems handling it, although it looks like a copy from the CSS3 specs.

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread Ingo Chao
Eric A. Meyer wrote: And always remember that this is a beta! They probably will fix their position:absolute bugs in gamma or delta. Absolutely positioned element and percentage width http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/apboxpercentagewidth.html wrong Absolutely positioned box and lost next

Re: [css-d] Background image duplicated when page is scrolled in IE6/win

2006-01-31 Thread Jono
Hi Webpage link = http://www.2gee.com/business.html If you visit this page in IE6/win and scroll the page down to the bottom and then scroll back up you should see that the background image located at the top of the LH column has been duplicated. Appears to be fixed, I do not see that

Re: [css-d] Print bug in Moz

2006-01-31 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Brandon Oto [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm trying to build a print style sheet for a new site; I'm running up against a Mozilla bug. I know about the float bug - and thought I'd worked around it (by adding a float: none; to all blocks that normally floated). Anyway - the problem is simple: When

Re: [css-d] Print bug in Moz

2006-01-31 Thread Brandon Oto
On Jan 31, 2006, at 5:28 PM, Holly Bergevin wrote: The problem element isn't floated in the first place, so adding float: none to it did not have the desired result, obviously. Brandon, your friend needs to override the absolute positioning of - #textblocki - in his/her style sheet.

[css-d] Nav Bar Advise

2006-01-31 Thread Les Mizzell
I'm trying to figure out how to force the width of a list element for a top nav bar to look like this: http://www.cyndustries.com/navcrap.gif Progress so far: Code (abbreviated) looks like... ul id=navigation-top-list li id=contacta href=contact.cfmContact Us/a/li li id=newsa

Re: [css-d] Nav Bar Advise

2006-01-31 Thread Jonathan Gold
I don't understand. If they're all the same why do you style each one separately. Won't it work with one declaration: #navigation-top-list li { display: inline; width:74px; margin-left:10px; padding-bottom: 4px; border-bottom:7px #264073 solid; } Or what don't I understand? On 1/31/06, Les

Re: [css-d] Nav Bar Advise

2006-01-31 Thread Les Mizzell
Jonathan Gold wrote: I don't understand. If they're all the same why do you style each one separately. Won't it work with one declaration: #navigation-top-list li { display: inline; width:74px; margin-left:10px; padding-bottom: 4px; border-bottom:7px #264073 solid; } Doh I left part

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread Christian Montoya
It's Windows Internet Explorer, not Microsoft Internet Explorer - weird? If anyone could explain what's happening in IE 7 at the main page of http://www.cssliquid.com, I would really appreciate it. It must be an inheritance bug? The divs are not being floated like they should. -- -- Christian

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread Al Sparber
It's Windows Internet Explorer, not Microsoft Internet Explorer - weird? If anyone could explain what's happening in IE 7 at the main page of http://www.cssliquid.com, I would really appreciate it. It must be an inheritance bug? The divs are not being floated like they should. Hi

Re: [css-d] Nav Bar Advise

2006-01-31 Thread Christian Montoya
On 1/31/06, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #navigation-top-list li { display: inline;} #navigation-top-list li#contact { width:74px; margin-left:10px; padding-bottom: 4px; border-bottom:7px #264073 solid; } #navigation-top-list li#news { width:74px; margin-left:10px;

Re: [css-d] Nav Bar Advise

2006-01-31 Thread Christian Montoya
On 1/31/06, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: first: border: size style color; so: border: 7px solid #264073; whoops, the order might not matter. Please excuse me on that one. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread Christian Montoya
On 1/31/06, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Double-check for any filter hacks and do note that there are still some incomplete areas. Another issue on your page - don't know if you want to bother it, but a:hover is not working. This little test suite will explain why and how you can fix it

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread felix . zapata
hi folks! if you don´t want to install the beta 2 of Internet Explorer 7, you can download beta 1 from this page http://downloads.skyzyx.com/index.php?fpp=20did=8fid=11 and use it with another versions of Explorer like 5 or 5.5 this is useful for testing but, only works on Window XP