Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-01-31 Thread Ingo Chao
Eric A. Meyer wrote: And always remember that this is a beta! They probably will fix their position:absolute bugs in gamma or delta. Absolutely positioned element and percentage width http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/apboxpercentagewidth.html wrong Absolutely positioned box and lost next

Re: [css-d] IE7 Beta goes Public

2006-02-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: However, they haven't got all the bugs out, so conditional comments are going to be necessary - I'm still seeing whitespace between li items, which I had been fixing with a * html li { height: 1%; }...now that doesn't work. This is a fundamental problem with the

[css-d] IE7b2 horizontal scrollbar due to position:relative on non-layout element

2006-02-01 Thread Ingo Chao
This is going to get worse... http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/ie7b2_prscrollbar.html This bug is new, I think, Can anyone please confirm in IE7b2, the fix in IE7b2, and the absence of the bug in IE6? (Sorry, I won't install IE6 side by side for the moment, to keep a 'clean' install of IE7b2)

Re: [css-d] IE7 beta 2: box no more expanding and floats

2006-02-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruno Fassino wrote: In IE7b2 the height of a box is (correctly) always respected. When a box with a specified height contains a float, this is (correctly) allowed to stick out of the box. But now the interaction of this float with the following boxes is not correct. Overlapping of content

Re: [css-d] IE7b2 horizontal scrollbar due to position:relative on non-layout element

2006-02-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruno Fassino wrote: Ingo Chao wrote: http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/ie7b2_prscrollbar.html This bug is new, I think, Yes, it looks new (bug and fix confirmed.) Thanks to all who took the time to confirm, much appreciated. The following looks similar, but not the same. It simply

Re: [css-d] Strange opacity in Firefox?

2006-02-02 Thread Ingo Chao
francky wrote: Hi List, Some playing around with semi-transparency and opacity (the css3-property), I found that Firefox (1.07) is supporting opacity, but in a strange way. Everything is allright, unless you place a new div on top of the semi-transparent box. Then the overlapping parts in

Re: [css-d] clear: both + negative margin -- should it do anything?

2006-02-03 Thread Ingo Chao
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/clear-marginTop.php ... In my test case above, Firefox (1.5) and Safari (1.0 and up) are correct. Firefox 1.0 does a slight poopoo with the neg. margin. IE 6 Win is half correct (test 2 and 3), probably more by accident. As for

[css-d] Is IE7b2 particularly slow on a:hover ?

2006-02-03 Thread Ingo Chao
On this old bug page http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/percentages.html IE7b2 takes half a second to click in the background-color change on hover each time you walk from one section to the next (sections A-I), hovering the little colored squares. Once you have entered a section,

[css-d] IE7b2 breaks the alternate box model hack: comment bug fixed, but not !important

2006-02-03 Thread Ingo Chao
Testcase http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/ie7b2_abmh.html In What’s New for CSS in Beta 2 Preview? http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/02/02/523679.aspx Markus Mielke said they have fixed the comment bug: property /**/: value; value is now recognized by IE7b2 (like in all browsers but

Re: [css-d] One True Layout

2006-02-03 Thread Ingo Chao
Rob Cochrane wrote: I am experimenting with Alex's excellent 'one true layout' to dynamically change from what is effectively a Left To Right layout to a Right To Left one. I have set up the style sheets such that the common items are in one and I switch via PHP those that influence the

Re: [css-d] !important will be fixed in IE7, too

2006-02-03 Thread Ingo Chao
Markus Mielke just answered on IE7blog, !important is fixed in recent builds. updated my obsolete demo. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] IE won't let static content move up to flow around

2006-02-05 Thread Ingo Chao
Philippe wrote: [--- Le 02/02/2006 19:38, Ingo Chao a écrit : ---] .clear_solvent {float:left; width:0px; height:0px;} div id=right-float-1 pThis div is floated to the right./p pLorem ipsum dolor sit amet,.../p /div pstrongThis paragraph is not floated

Re: [css-d] HTML/PHP form - button problem in IE

2006-02-06 Thread Ingo Chao
Pringle, Ron wrote: Ron - thanks for checking! No, it's not fixed (wish it were!). The button should line up with the left edge of the box above. I realize it doesn't actually create an error but I just don't understand why it's not over on the left as in FF. I'm still learning CSS so I

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it - ALMOST GOT IT

2006-02-07 Thread Ingo Chao
Peter Lindstrom wrote: http://www.allanalog.com/aaw/5.php the php code does a browser check and if IE it loads a very small additional CSS bit to fix IE ... comments, fixes to my remaining problems, sarcastic remarks on my sarcasm.. all are appreciated.. :) Peter, I think there

Re: [css-d] Border doesn't render in IE

2006-02-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Rowan Wigginton wrote: Hello, I have what seems like a very simple problem which only occurs in IE (I've tested with 6 7). I have an unordered list menu at the top right of this test page - http://www.rowanw.com/testcases/no_border_ie.htm. For the first link I've created a style that

Re: [css-d] What's causing the offset of items in this form?

2006-02-09 Thread Ingo Chao
James Eaton wrote: http://dm126.mediaodyssey.com/form.htm Hmm, maybe .sitesearch input {vertical-align: bottom;} ? probably other Browsers don't like this, so serve it to IE only. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] Need main content to touch top nav bar

2006-02-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Julie Flolo wrote: ...I want the main content of the page to butt up against the top navigation bar. http://www.floloweb.com/test/index4.html http://www.floloweb.com/test/4style.css In Fx, zero the default margin of the ul #topmenu ul {margin-bottom: 0;} Ingo --

Re: [css-d] Problem in IE/WIN with borders

2006-02-09 Thread Ingo Chao
cindy Smeulders wrote: http://roundtheworld.homelinux.com If you go the website the first time it all looks like it should. When you do a refresh or try a link the borders are all screwed up. I looks like it first displays the menus and then draw the border over it, so you can't see the

Re: [css-d] New IE 7 Ruined my Nav???

2006-02-09 Thread Ingo Chao
TMH Design wrote: Please look at this page - www.thomashall.com http://www.thomashall.com/ in IE 7 and Firefox. Can someone tell me what is going on? /* Hide from IE-mac \*/ * html .vnav ul li a/* hide from IE 5.0 */ {height: 1%;} /* End hide */ The star html head is dead, but not the bugs.

Re: [css-d] How does z-index work?

2006-02-10 Thread Ingo Chao
ian wrote: Ryan Bowman wrote: I want the blue 'Above' to be above the red 'Below', but it's not, and I don't understand why. Can someone shed some light? I added position: absolute to both the #above and #below selectors and it ordered them as expected. I've always been under the

Re: [css-d] tableless forms

2006-02-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Michiel van der Blonk wrote: For long I have been looking for the easiest way to create forms without tables. I found several methods: - floating - position:absolute - display:inline-block display:-moz-inline-box All come with their own caveats and problems. The floating is usually

Re: [css-d] tableless forms

2006-02-10 Thread Ingo Chao
I wrote: Because of the margin-bottom of 1em, the label is taller than the input. Apply a background color to see. Sorry, a background color does not make it easier to see. Use the Firefox web developer extension or the FxDomInspector to outline these elements. Second, I forgot: On your test

Re: [css-d] Strange position of list bullet/image in IE, please help

2006-02-10 Thread Ingo Chao
hepabolu wrote: I'm trying to restyle a page and I'm running into something very strange: the bullet of an LI is moved down in IE as if it is vertically centered for the enclosed UL. Here you can see it (last option in the left column).

Re: [css-d] IE float won't slide up.

2006-02-11 Thread Ingo Chao
Eric Ladner wrote: http://dendrome.ucdavis.edu/.species/index.php http://dendrome.ucdavis.edu/includes/stylesheet.css I guess I could punt and stick it in a table.. actually, this is a table. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-11 Thread Ingo Chao
Alan Chandler wrote: OK - I managed to almost fix up the page so the validator works, mainly by defining the DOCTYPE an xhtml. There is one warning which will take some more work, but is not related to this. Now, I'll ask the question again . Thanks for validating; it makes debugging

Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Alan Chandler wrote: However, it is still not exactly right. The black band with the title in it should more or less (I think there is a couple of pixels out at the moment) line up with the top of the logo picture). On IE it seem to be about the third the way down the logo picture. zero

Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Alan Chandler wrote: On Sunday 12 February 2006 10:29, Ingo Chao wrote: zero the default margin-top of the h1 It works thanks, but I don't understand why margin-top was ever non zero. My css guides say its default value is zero and its not inherited. Browser defaults are different

Re: [css-d] odd cross-browser behaviour in using print and screen css

2006-02-12 Thread Ingo Chao
hepabolu wrote: Summary: the title attribute in a link to a CSS file causes Firefox and Safari to ignore the print version, while it works fine in IE. I'm not sure. This https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238767 is indicated as a duplicate of

Re: [css-d] CSS problems on IE Server specific?

2006-02-13 Thread Ingo Chao
Jason Hilton wrote: www.theonlinecookbook.com/ver2/ Here are the urls for my CSS files: www.theonlinecookbook.com/ver2/css/cookbook-interface.css www.theonlinecookbook.com/ver2/css/cookbook-iefixes.css Currently only the front page works, I'm doing some major application changes as well

Re: [css-d] hybrid layout, wide table (IE6)

2006-02-13 Thread Ingo Chao
Brett Leber wrote: Example 1: http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/bleber/css/table_test1.html Example 2: http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/bleber/css/table_test2.html The innermost table contains many cells in a single row longer than most browser widths. To display it in the current page, I've

Re: [css-d] hybrid layout, wide table (IE6)

2006-02-14 Thread Ingo Chao
Brett Leber wrote: ... For conditional comments, do you think I should target IE6+ with these additions? Out of curiosity, does IE7b2 render the table similarly to IE6 (ie, off the screen) without your two additions? IE7b2 does render the page identical to IE6. And the fix does work in

Re: [css-d] Float wrapping with unknown div/img heights

2006-02-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Admin at AK wrote: I have a series of divs which I want to float wrap. However, the height of each div is variable and unknown (dynamically generated). When the series of floating divs wrap, a deeper div will cause the next div to align its left edge with the right edge of the preceding div.

Re: [css-d] IE Repeating Text

2006-02-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Scott Wilcox wrote: http://x0f.org/music/ The text seems to get repeated under the last graph. No dup characters here. And I can't get the weather in Chesterton to hide. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __

Re: [css-d] IE Repeating Text

2006-02-15 Thread Ingo Chao
to repeat, and its a CSS bug that I'm looking into fixing :P So I think you have to rethink your hiding. Ingo Ingo Chao wrote: Scott Wilcox wrote: http://x0f.org/music/ The text seems to get repeated under the last graph. No dup characters here. And I can't get the weather

Re: [css-d] having real difficulties getting a css drop down to work in IE

2006-02-15 Thread Ingo Chao
ben scott wrote: ... trying to get the site at http://www.filmworkshop.com/newsite/content/view/15/33/ you are using style type=text/css media=screen @import url(longlongpath.css); /style from there, you are applying body {behavior: url(path/csshover.htc)} ... you can see a working version

Re: [css-d] having real difficulties getting a css drop down to work in IE

2006-02-16 Thread Ingo Chao
ben scott wrote: ... trying to get the site at http://www.filmworkshop.com/newsite/content/view/15/33/ It is working now in IE6, but the menu does take a long period to turn on when the page is accessed for the first time. Is this related to the absolute paths for the @import and for the

Re: [css-d] IE bug - Submit and Reset

2006-02-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Iorhael wrote: When I click submit on this form, the space above the Submit and Reset buttons disappears in IE. It doesn't effect the function but it looks ugly. Does anyone know of a fix for this? http://www.drkdesign.com/debscards/cards_form.php Have you tried applying layout to

Re: [css-d] IE Mac float problem

2006-02-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Julian Voelcker wrote: In IE the main layers aren't floating properly, resulting in them appearing staggered on the page. http://asummerhouse.tvw.net your code #header { border: 0pt none ; position: relative; clear: both; } #bodyblock { position: relative; clear: both; width: 760px; } clear

Re: [css-d] Width Handling IE/Win

2006-02-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Richard Brown wrote: http://www.lostwithiel.org.uk/ In IE/Win the sidebar floats below the main content. #sidebar { float: right; width: 27%; margin-left: 3%; } Do you need this left margin at all? (IE will not calculate this % margin correctly for various reasons [1] the % margin is

Re: [css-d] Buttons shifting in form in IE

2006-02-18 Thread Ingo Chao
Iorhael wrote: Hi, am still wondering if anyone knows I can prevent the Submit and Reset buttons from shifting when clicked in this form: Did you try my suggestion? Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __ css-discuss

Re: [css-d] using a current class on page links

2006-02-18 Thread Ingo Chao
Erin Spangler wrote: www.thedogsonline.com/highland/index.html http://www.thedogsonline.com/highland/highland-main.css Only the links on the right side of the page are active at the moment and the current class is attached to the What we believe link. rh-col ul li.current a { should be

Re: [css-d] IE6 list hover background error

2006-02-18 Thread Ingo Chao
Garet Jax / Mikolaj Misiurewicz wrote: ... http://www.psychologia.pl/projekt/NSW/ with subpages, for example, here: http://www.psychologia.pl/projekt/NSW/badania.php ... 1) When I hover over menu_1 or menu_2, which are menus with background-images changing on :hover, using IE6, they blink

Re: [css-d] Horizontal scrollbar in IE 7 beta 2?

2006-02-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Mikhail Bozgounov wrote: Fixed-width layout, based on the negative margins technique: http://www.bluelink.net/zero-waste/ a.p. boxes that have a right:value set seem to cause scrollbars in IE7b2preview. Funny thing is that overflow:hidden on this box stops the bug; that would be #motto in

Re: [css-d] page check please

2006-02-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Schalk wrote: Greetings All, Please have a look at the following pages: http://www.volume4.com/fc/index.html http://www.volume4.com/fc/entry_archive.html Let me know any problems you run into. I know IE6 has some bugs, the strangest for though is what happens in Opera. Thanks! If you

Re: [css-d] IE6 Float Drop Issues

2006-02-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Pringle, Ron wrote: ...Basically the problem is that the right non-floated column is dropping below the left-floated container. ... URL: http://tinyurl.com/mxtve #container { float: left; width: 100%; margin-left: -33px;} I think #container needs another margin-right: -3px; to work

Re: [css-d] Still stuck

2006-02-22 Thread Ingo Chao
Phil Winter wrote: ...the menu STILL will not work in IE6! Here's a link to the html page with the CSS. http://www.webdesignpartners.com/blackstock/index.html ... I'm not a JS programmer, so it's very possible I've made some stupid mistake. No. The JS is working fine, the hovered li

Re: [css-d] IE whitespace bug AGAIN

2006-02-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Karl Jacobs wrote: Still having a whitespace problem with IE (5, 6, and 7). any other tricks?... #leftnav li { width: 143px; border-top: solid 1px #7A7BAF; font-size: 1em; /* -- insert this */ } #leftnav a { /* font-size: 10px; */ /* line-height: 12px; */

Re: [css-d] Need help with this [EMAIL PROTECTED] AP div problem I think

2006-02-24 Thread Ingo Chao
Kim Kruse wrote: If you go to this page http://www.mouseriders.dk/til_michael/index_white.php (I'm not done with the stylesheet for this page yet) and in the selectbox please choose Hvid/blå kontrast and click the submit (skift). You should now see a white page with the A a in the blue

Re: [css-d] Getting rid of IE positioning Hacks

2006-02-26 Thread Ingo Chao
Ryan Morris wrote: ... I have this menu/submenu http://menutest.mnos.org/test.php (don't mind the page having no relative content - I cut out the excess for the purpose of this email) How uncommon on this list, thanks. This works fine in IE Firefox - however, it's working ok in IE because

Re: [css-d] How to avoid the hopping of my right column

2006-02-26 Thread Ingo Chao
Jens Peter Bregnballe wrote: Perhaps someone can give me advice on how to avoid the hopping of my right column div id=hoejreklumme in IE 6. It is a layout which is fully flexible, and I would like to keep it that way. The xhtml is at : http://www.bregnballe.suite.dk/ The css is at:

Re: [css-d] Sequences of float clear divs

2006-02-27 Thread Ingo Chao
Michal Cizmazia wrote: Thank you, your answer helped me to catch the point. Here is the demo, which show why IE6 handles floats in the wrong way as you have already mentioned. http://cim.szm.sk/float-clear-seq2.html Another test case for this problem can be found at Bruno's CSS tests

Re: [css-d] Absolute-positioned LEGEND element in Firefox

2006-02-27 Thread Ingo Chao
Jesse Wrote Try adding !important to the position: absolute. Firefox's default styles for LEGEND include 'position: static !important', so you'll have to use !important as well to override this behaviour. Rafael wrote: Thanks Jesse, that actually allowed me to set the LEGEND

Re: [css-d] IE fix for white space in the HTML being rendered?

2006-02-27 Thread Ingo Chao
Austin, Darrel wrote: I've been struggling with getting a UL formatted so that there isn't a gap between each LI. ... is there any chance that some CSS could remedy this? This depends on your actual case. Can we see an URL to the problem? Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] A bunch of questions from a time strapped newbie

2006-02-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Claude Bernier wrote: ... - The left vertical menu in hiding under the main text area; ... http://www.blendinblindinn.com/Edithluc/TEMP_Company_Whoweare.html Someone more lucid than me should help me understanding this bug #left { width: 185px; float: left; position: relative;

Re: [css-d] A bunch of questions from a time strapped newbie

2006-02-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: Claude Bernier wrote: ... - The left vertical menu in hiding under the main text area; ... http://www.blendinblindinn.com/Edithluc/TEMP_Company_Whoweare.html ... - Why does pointing the url() to an nonexistent location make the #left visible /and/ move

Re: [css-d] span not displayed by ie6

2006-03-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Manfred Staudinger wrote: If you click Anton Kupfer on this page http://free.pages.at/staudinger/Regest/Regesten/A1608-10-14-02382.xml then after Quellen: Fx 1.5 displays 1604-04-10 1605-09-03 1608-10-14 1612-10-18 as three links and one span, but ie6 only displays three links, 1604-04-10

Re: [css-d] span not displayed by ie6

2006-03-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Manfred Staudinger wrote: Ingo, http://free.pages.at/staudinger/Regest/Regesten/A1608-10-14-02382.html I've uploaded a sligthly different version of this page in html, where you can see the very same problem. Manfred On 02/03/06, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I cannot

Re: [css-d] head scratcher in IE (what else?)

2006-03-03 Thread Ingo Chao
Erwin Heiser wrote: http://www.readshotel.com/index.php/hotel/about/en/ http://www.readshotel.com/index.php/hotel/about/es/ http://www.readshotel.com/index.php/hotel/about/de/ http://www.readshotel.com/index.php?css=main/core.css Does anyone have any suggestions regarding the following

Re: [css-d] Why the gap?

2006-03-03 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sigmaphinothing.org/template.html Is the one with the /* hide from other browsers \*/ * html .left {margin-right: -3px;} * html .right {margin-left: 0;} /* end hide */ Which works in IE. http://www.sigmaphinothing.org/template2.html has

Re: [css-d] Problem with right column overlap when main contains uncompressible table

2006-03-04 Thread Ingo Chao
Georg already solved it. The (still) experimental drop-it method [1] could be useful here. The scrollbar might not be desired: http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/dropit/cl/index.html CSS with comments added http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/dropit/cl/index.css Ingo [1]

Re: [css-d] dean Edwards IE7 offline?

2006-03-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Nicolas Sauveur wrote: I am trying to get a hand on Dean Edwards's IE7, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ie7 Completely OT, Nicolas. -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] anchor border clipped in IE

2006-03-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Maziak, Peter (Tek Systems) wrote: Why do the anchor's borders on this page get clipped in IE6 (fine in FF) I don't know. Someone should tell them again that the inline formatting still (IE7b2prev) is sort of wrong. and how can I prevent this? a.linkButton {position: relative;}. If this does

Re: [css-d] anchor border clipped in IE

2006-03-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.msu.edu/~maziak/umg/temp.html It's the old 'layering' bug in IE/win. Often mixed up with the 'hasLayout'[1] bug, but 'layering' and 'Layout' isn't the same thing. Those two bugs just happens to strike in pairs quite often in IE's rendering engine, which may

Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Weirdness - Extra Characters

2006-03-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Chris Korhonen wrote: Hi Guys, Just discovered this 'bug' in some code ... It's part of the duplicate characters bug. http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html .step {margin-right:-3px;} If this does not help, you should consider providing an URL to your problem

Re: [css-d] [IE6] Problem with background-image

2006-03-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Eike Jordan wrote: recently i ran into a problem concerning background-images. In some cases the image has a really weird position that doesn't fit to the given CSS-settings: a.link_ext { background-image: url(/images/smarticons/link_ext.gif); background-repeat:

Re: [css-d] [IE6] Problem with background-image

2006-03-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Eike Jordan wrote: I already considered such a Javascript-DOM solution but the aspects on http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/wrappinglinkbg.html inspired me to play around with some CSS settings. I found a semi optimal solution whereas it is not less weird. Just add a defined height to the affected

Re: [css-d] z-index and IE

2006-03-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Julie Angarone wrote: http://www.being-a-mom.com/ http://www.being-a-mom.com/indexnew.html In Firefox the blocks and block headings are exactly the way I want themnot in IE Z-index doesn't seem to help at all. #areas h1 {position:relative} This should help placing the h1 over

Re: [css-d] Gap Around Input Box In IE

2006-03-10 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I have tried applying 0 padding and 0 margin to the various elements on and around it, but it doesn't budge anything. What else can I try? http://www.girlscantwhat.com margin:0 applied to the FORM removes the gaps here. colorful page ... maybe my site

Re: [css-d] IE6 Multiple Class Bug - Order of Declaration Seems to Matter?

2006-03-12 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I observed was that IE seems to have a precise hierarchy for classed divs (which is all good and well) but it creates all kinds of headaches if you have more than 1 classed div that you to work with. This is because the second classed div gets

Re: [css-d] How to limit table cell height (GMail style)

2006-03-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Your given example renders different in IE vs. other browsers, so I don't know what you are looking after (gmail-styled, I heard of). Do you want both cells side by side, horizontally aligned? Or do you want them to align vertically, in two rows, as display:block on td implies? Ingo --

Re: [css-d] How to limit table cell height (GMail style)

2006-03-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Whatever was meant, here is an attempt using first-line. http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/dropit/tablefirstline.html It's not necessarily what one would call a simpler solution, though, and Opera has some problems. It requires px-fixed font-size. I'd go for the solution of Michael to have an div

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread Ingo Chao
James Smith wrote: www.ceridian.co.uk - I doubt that this problem is within CSS. Does Flash work with wmode=transparent on Opera? Don't know where to search for information. MM website? Opera Forums? Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: I doubt that this problem is within CSS. Does Flash work with wmode=transparent on Opera? Sorry. Should read Does the Flash plugin work with wmode=transparent on Opera for Mac 8.51/9TP2?. Can't check in PC for the moment. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread Ingo Chao
James Smith wrote: Hi Ingo, thanks for the idea, but I think the problem is with the CSS, because it occurs on the other top-level pages which contain images instead of flash - for example: http://www.ceridian.co.uk/hr/nav/1,4102,108,00.html You are right. http://www.ceridian.co.uk/

Re: [css-d] CSS-bulleted lists with large icons

2006-03-14 Thread Ingo Chao
Leo Breebaart wrote: http://www.kronto.org/test/. ... The problem becomes apparent if you try to focus-cycle through the links on the page by hitting the tab key. Not only does this look ugly as sin, but more importantly: only part of the icon is clickable. Dan's technique only works if the

Re: [css-d] Mozilla - limited hover area on linked image

2006-03-15 Thread Ingo Chao
WV Mike wrote: ... http://mbreiding.us/2006/ERT_2006/fl/parks_hikes/mana_springs/ has two linked images at top-left and top-right. When mousing the image the hover hand does not appear until well into the field of the image. A similar page does not exhibit this behavior:

Re: [css-d] Bottom margin on page, can't figure out how to get rid of it

2006-03-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Tina Vance wrote: I'm creating a website and cannot get past this one little problem: on Mozilla, Safari and every other browser *except* MS Internet Explorer, there is a bottom margin on the content section of the page. I've validated the stylesheet, I've validated the html, both come up

Re: [css-d] Bottom margin on page, can't figure out how to get rid of it

2006-03-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Tina Vance wrote: And another valuable lesson about wholesale application of hacks is learned. ;) All of the clearfixes were deleted, all of the problems were solved. Thank you very much for your help! cj wrote: On 3/15/06, Tina Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The url for the site is

Re: [css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Julie Harpring wrote: I would greatly appreciate any help with the the problem below. We just switched our main site pages to XHTML and CSS, but now we have realized a problem that occurs only on SOME computers using IE6. In Firefox, Safari, and IE6 on my computer, the sidebar to the left of

Re: [css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-16 Thread Ingo Chao
I wonder what makes IE think he should overflow and drop a container with the text zoom being increased or /decreased/ as the OP reported in the beginning of the thread, and why different Installations show inconsistent results. Voodoo. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] footerStickAlt

2006-03-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Tim (The Site Doctor) wrote: No, I'm talking about his page's code, basically I'm just thinking about having a template with the layout CSS and no element styling. Tim So you are not asking about the footerStickAlt method, as your subject line implies, but you are asking about this page's

Re: [css-d] More SOS issues - No more unspecific subject lines please

2006-03-19 Thread Ingo Chao
Iorhael wrote: btw-1: Perhaps you can give the '#menu li ul li a' the padding instead of the '#menu li ul li', then the (yellow) clickable area can be greater. Francky and others, another thing I am noticing with the submenus in IE is that hovering is a bit jumpy between the parent link

Re: [css-d] inline lists with left or right borders applied to list items

2006-03-19 Thread Ingo Chao
Nick Cappadona wrote: I'm having some trouble with IE6 and inline lists. The problem occurs when I apply a right or left border to an individual list item. Actually, this alone does not cause the unexpected behavior, but if a list item happens to span across two lines, IE will display the

Re: [css-d] Frame is empty in IE

2006-03-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Piotr Zalewa wrote: http://test.bandwagon.co.uk/iframe.html (.../frame.html) Welcome Piotr, The page that doesn't show up inside the iframe, http://test.bandwagon.co.uk/forums/ has this rule * html { position: relative; } by removing it via IEDomExplorer toolbar, the iframe renders more

Re: [css-d] Float jumping horizontally in IE on click-drag

2006-03-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Eric Shepherd wrote: http://www.fisher-price.com/fp.aspx?st=2182e=productpid=34783 On a local copy, this seems to stabilize it /* PRODUCT INFO */ * html #product-info { display: inline; position: relative; } but not live via DomExplorer. Ingo --

Re: [css-d] Link hovering wierdness in IE

2006-03-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Iorhael wrote: Hi, I have a really strange thing going on when hovering over menu links in IE in this web site. I just added a background image for the menu links on hover...it works fine in Firefox and Opera, but in IE, hovering over and clicking on the links causes really strange things

Re: [css-d] Easy Clearing and clear:both issue

2006-03-21 Thread Ingo Chao
clear:both on the pseudo-element 'clears' any float that is within the same block formatting context (here: body). The pseudo-element sticks to the div.z, but the clearance moves it below the floated leftnav. Therefore, the pseudo-element stretches the element to which it is attached. This

Re: [css-d] Inline list item background image positioning problem in IE6

2006-03-22 Thread Ingo Chao
Ben Henick wrote: Given the following in IE6: 1. A link list with its items set to display: inline and text alignment centered 2. A bullet background image on each item without any position applied List items that wrap present the background image at the left margin of the text on

Re: [css-d] Navigation woes

2006-03-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Richard Brown wrote: http://www.theoldcoachworks.org.uk/ http://www.theoldcoachworks.org.uk/wp-content/themes/WordpressRooms/ style.css I have some recollection that this is a WinIE bug. i.e that it doesn't display text under a box but alongside it whatever the quoted width. Some

Re: [css-d] Duplicate Content, Form Width Madness

2006-03-27 Thread Ingo Chao
Rahul Gonsalves wrote: I'm absolutely flummoxed by what IE is doing to this page: http://mentaid.in/newsletter ... The client wants this site up fairly soon, so if someone could look through it and send me a reply, I would be extremely grateful. I think IE is somewhat irritated by the

Re: [css-d] IE Highlighting Bug

2006-03-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Colin Sheaff wrote: I'm sure I could suss this out with enough hours of research and trial-and-error tweaking of the site, but I would love to resolve this quicker so I ask for your help. http://www.canastamusic.com/press For some reason when using the mouse to highlight text (to copy text

Re: [css-d] dynamic menus and z-index? (formerly More SOS)

2006-03-28 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://spppa.littleberrystudio.com For FirefoxCo, #nav li ul {z-index:1} should solve the problem of text+borders peeking through in flyouts of preceding elements. For IE, I don't have a solution, since IE establishes a new stacking context for each relatively

Re: [css-d] IE7B2 calculates the containing box of absolutely positioned elements wrong?

2006-03-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Tom wrote: Check out: http://tomabuct.googlepages.com/CSS20.htm I cannot verify this in the recent build of IE7 Mar 20 (build 7.0.5335.5). Looks nearly identical to Fx1.5. IE7 still has box model problems, but I think this particular one was fixed after build 7.0.5296.0. (In this Jan31

Re: [css-d] dynamic menus and z-index? (formerly More SOS)

2006-03-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://spppa.littleberrystudio.com For FirefoxCo, #nav li ul {z-index:1} should solve the problem of text+borders peeking through in flyouts of preceding elements. For IE, I don't have a solution, since IE establishes a new stacking

Re: [css-d] mixed-up on how to address layout and image issues in IE (PC / Mac)

2006-03-30 Thread Ingo Chao
Clayton Farr wrote: ... http://www.filmtreks.com/ ... * Internet Explorer 5 / Mac - banner image at top of page (placed via css and php random image script) is not showing up Isn't this related to the overflow:hidden bug in IEMac? I'd hide it from IEMac for a try. Ingo --

Re: [css-d] mixed-up on how to address layout and image issues in IE (PC / Mac)

2006-03-30 Thread Ingo Chao
Clayton Farr wrote: http://www.filmtreks.com/ * Internet Explorer 6 / PC - right hand side-bar (floated:right) breaks and goes below other float on resize of browser window The reason for this float drop is the quirky percentages bug [1], In short: IE6 has problems with percentages

Re: [css-d] mixed-up on how to address layout and image issues in IE (PC / Mac)

2006-03-31 Thread Ingo Chao
Clayton Farr wrote: Thanks to some quick feedback I've made these changes in an effort to become better friends with IE: * 'overflow:hidden' commented out from IE5/Mac (within 'base.css') - to try and address missing banner image * added 'zoom:1' (on #quotes div within 'iewin.css') to try

Re: [css-d] mixed-up on how to address layout and image issues in IE (PC / Mac)

2006-03-31 Thread Ingo Chao
Clayton Farr wrote: IE6Win: the right sidebar is much more stable now. Switching to a lower text size does not drop the float anymore, good. There is still an issue when the window is sized smaller. That's great to hear that it's working better. The window sizing issue is the problem I

Re: [css-d] A problem showing a floating div in IE

2006-03-31 Thread Ingo Chao
kuasar wrote: Hello. This is the website I'm creating right now. http://kuasar.no-ip.org/sempreavant/page/index2.php My problem is the grey box up on the right hand corner (which is suposed to contain a photo later on). Using firefox I see the box behind the page curl, which is the

Re: [css-d] Help with showing and hiding table rows dynamically

2006-04-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Christian Heilmann wrote: for a code example in my upcoming book I need to show and hide table rows dynamically. Your IE code table.dynamic tbody tr{ display:none; } table.dynamic tbody tr.show{ display:block; } and I can do it in Firefox via: htmlbody table.dynamic

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