IE6 won't work with tiling transparent png's.
The solutions to using transparent png's with IE6 involve
replacing the background image with a foreground image so
alpha transparency filter can operate on it.
So, I haven't been able to find anything that will work
with IE6 and transparent png's as
As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower.
My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less than IE6.
And if they do, well, it's just time for an upgrade. I'm not jumping through
that many hoops to accommodate so few IE 5 users.
And I make liberal use of
Thanks for those thoughts and links, Georg.
I will check them out and run up on your philosophical perspectives.
Rick
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From: Gunlaug Sørtun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:28 AM
To: Rick Faircloth
Subject: Re: [css-d] Float list
On a practical note...
I've been wanting to find a tutorial on constructing CSS based websites
that demonstrates best-practice methodology.
By that, I mean what is the best order to follow in constructing a site,
start-to-finish?
I typically start with a design, then code the CSS and HTML to
What difference does it make?
Rick
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:35 PM
To: Usamah M. Ali
Cc: Brian Jones; CSS Discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] Float list items
Usamah M. Ali
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:53 PM
To: 'CSS Discussion'
Subject: Re: [css-d] Float list items
Rick Faircloth wrote:
What difference does it make?
The difference is (already made) at the most basic level: what it is,
and what it can be made
Not boring at all!
Thanks for the explanation, Rafael! :o)
Rick
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:32 PM
To: Rick Faircloth
Cc: 'CSS Discussion'
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Thanks for the explanation, Georg! :o)
Rick
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Subject: Re: [css-d] Float list items
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Your
Message -
From: Rafael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'CSS Discussion' css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] Float list items [medium]
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Your example below is impressive, Georg, for sure
Hi, all.
I'd like to know your thoughts on including separate
stylesheets for individual pages.
I've realized at the start of a pretty large site, including
Internet and Intranet sections, that my stylesheet could grow
very large and even finding sections of styles for particular
pages could be
However, you might end up
repeating yourself if you are not careful
Very true! Thanks, Mark!
Rick
Rick,
I think this is an allright solution. However, you might end up
repeating yourself if you are not careful in delegating styles to the
main sheet. As long as you can stay vigilant
Hi, Kristina...
I think making use of background color, or even better to me, setting
background images, usually are a great way to enhance the look of a page
and control the user experience.
Concerning the nature of your post...
I think best practice CSS discussions of a more general nature
Now, I notice too, that since you've removed
the images to the left of your list, that IE
is displaying the menu off-center, to the right.
Typically, I believe, the padding automatically
allowed by IE for a bullet is 20px. There is
another inheritance issue from somewhere that
is causing your
that in the end.
Rick
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From: Holly Bergevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:43 PM
To: Big Moxy; 'CSS Discussion'; Rick Faircloth
Subject: Re: [css-d] list-style problem on IE 7
From: Big Moxy
http://www.woodstone-homes.com/communities/red-oak
Hi, Scott...
I guess you got everything straightened out?
Everything looks the same in IE6, IE7, and FF.
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Thigpen
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:15 AM
To: css-d
Subject: [css-d] Ie6
, the hacks are isolated and won't cause conflicts in
the future.
Just a few thoughts as I wrestle with the inconsistencies of the browser world.
Rick
From: Scott Thigpen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:16 PM
To: Rick Faircloth
Subject: Re: [css-d] Ie6 and 7
09, 2008 2:03 PM
To: Rick Faircloth
Subject: Re: [css-d] Ie6 and 7 *still* giving me fits when I try to make
something flush - please
help if you can
I've never thought of that. Can you show me an example of what you are talking
about? I usually
design for FF too as that's most of my
Like the design, Scott... elegant, clean, interface easy to understand,
good functionality.
Good work!
Rick
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:49 AM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
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Subject: Re: [css-d] problems with CSS and floats
Rick Faircloth wrote:
However, it's good to remember that for those of us that are just
beginning to work with CSS layouts, that getting *anything* to work
on any level is a big challenge. Once we become more
-Original Message-
From: David Laakso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:47 AM
To: Rick Faircloth
Subject: Re: [css-d] problems with CSS and floats
Now, if we can get you to just stop top-posting (it screws up the
archives and makes it impossible
David Laakso wrote:
PS Do you have a CSS question?
I consider philosophical questions about CSS design that
impact daily work just as legitimate as How do I make a font red?,
if not more so...
Rick
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Possibly... maybe just a morphed thread... like any conversation,
it can branch.
Rick
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Behalf Of Rayburn Taylor
Is this what one would call a hijacked thread? Just asking.
Rayburn
Waco Web Designs
Hi, Rayburn...
Let me tell you what finally enabled me to start making totally css-layout
sites, using only tables for tabular data.
I went to http://www.templateworld.com/free_templates.html and downloaded
several free sites, including all images and other assets that you need for
a complete
, 2007 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [css-d] problems with CSS and floats
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hi, Rayburn...
Let me tell you what finally enabled me to start making totally css-layout
sites, using only tables for tabular data.
I went
?
Really, really.
- Cy
On 12/4/07, Big Moxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ditto here! Why do we need to receive duplicate emails?
Tim
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Faircloth
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:55 PM
... no rocks, slings, or arrows. :o)
Rick
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Behalf Of Ingo Chao
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:04 AM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?
Rick Faircloth
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Behalf Of Jon Hughes
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:53 AM
To: Rick Faircloth; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] How will Firefox 3 affect web developers?
Sorry for my absence in this discussion, list! My HD had a meltdown
No problem here! I would greatly appreciate it if you
could share with me how to set that up on Outlook 2007!
I hate the way this list sends responses to the sender
*and* to the list, or I either have to take the time to
strip out the personal email address...
Rick
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With all due respect to Opera and Safari's users, based on the visitor
stats of the sites I manage (and on stats from sites like thecounter.com),
by testing in Firefox and IE, I _am_ testing for all _major_ browsers.
Absolutely agree... FF and IE are the *only* major browsers. All the rest
@David...
Hi, David...
I took a quick glance at the css you recommended for Nouhad,
and I have a question.
I noticed that you specified a float:left for all three
boxes (#box-1, #box-2, #box-3), then you gave #box-2 the attribute,
position:absolute, and then #box-3, float:right.
I've just been
Thanks for the info, David. :o)
Rick
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From: David Laakso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:44 PM
To: Rick Faircloth
Cc: 'css-discuss'
Subject: Re: [css-d] Simple layout positioning
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd
Can't see it here, David...IE7...
Looks good...nice design.
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Boddie
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:15 AM
To: css-discuss
Subject: [css-d] Background centering issue with IE
Hello
I'll tell you what gave me enough understanding
to finally begin to build sites using CSS... free
CSS templates from http://www.templateworld.com/free_templates.html.
I simply selected a template I liked and took the HTML and CSS
and copied and pasted the template back together one line at a time
That was it! Thanks, fantasia!
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:12 PM
To: Rick Faircloth
Cc: 'CSS-D'
Subject: Re: [css-d] Why won't these two style of code work the same way?
Rick Faircloth
Hi, Bob...
Applying vertical-align: top; moved the bullet to the top of
the text rows for each li...however, the bullet is a little too high
for me and I didn't come up with a quick solution to moving the
bullet down.
ul li {list-style-type: disc; list-line-height: 130%; width: 250px;
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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [css-d] (IE7) Bullets shift downward on items that wrap when
width is applied
On Sep 29, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote
Got a site link, Sandy?
Rick
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:26 PM
To: CSS discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] PC laptop with IE7 and XP quirks - SITE CHECK PLEASE
and here are the links to the style
Very good!
I was just about to email you and tell you that I
wasn't seeing any problem with my IE7/XP setup.
Glad you got it worked out...
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:26 PM
To: Rick
Sandy - for some reason padding-left didn't affect
the bullets, however, margin-left did.
Try margin-left...
Rick
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From: Sandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:56 AM
To: Rick Faircloth; CSS discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] list markers
, however, that I'm not taking into account
your .content class...
I see that your ol and ul have a float:right; on them...do you
need that on the lists?
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From: Sandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:56 AM
To: Rick Faircloth; CSS discuss
Subject
I see why you need the float:right on the lists now...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Faircloth
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:16 AM
To: 'Sandy'; 'CSS discuss'
Subject: Re: [css-d] list markers not showing up in ie7
Oh
of the bullets is the same as well as the li's of the ul.
Do you need padding-left on the ol and ul?
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Faircloth
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:16 AM
To: 'Sandy'; 'CSS discuss'
Subject: Re: [css-d
Sandy...
I put your html and css on a test site on my server
and prepared to make changes...however, the lists
worked perfectly to start with!
Look here: http://code_tests.whitestonemedia.com/sandy/test2/x.shtml
My first thought...path to IE7 css stylesheet correct?
And check browsercam here:
Hi, all.
If you'll take a look at http://www.rickfaircloth.com/cfm/calendar_add.cfm
in FF, you'll see the form sticking out at the bottom. IE 6 7 are
perfect.
I've tried every trick I can think of and fine to fix this, but nothing's
worked.
- overflow: hidden; height: 1%
-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:50 PM
To: Rick Faircloth
Cc: CSS Discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] I give up! Can someone please tell me how to fix this?
On 8/29/07, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone provide
Thanks for the insight...
Rick
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From: Dan Dorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:10 PM
To: Rick Faircloth
Cc: CSS Discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] I give up! Can someone please tell me how to fix this?
On 8/29/07, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL
I haven't quite figured out why codestrong/code came into use
instead of codeb/code.
The latter is so much short and easier to type?
Why did that change occur?
Rick
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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:55 AM
To: CSS Discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] Nav container: Collapses in IE6
Thank guys,
I added the 1%
I prefer top-posting as well... scrolling down constantly is a pain...
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:32 AM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] I've got the IE
Jukka... I don't think you're in a position to tell Tedd that his question
is wasting *his* time. If this list is for anything, it's about learning
what work and what doesn't and *why*...
If you think it's a waste of *your* time, then don't read or respond to the
thread. But this is definitely
This entire list etiquette argument could have been avoided
if Jukka hadn't broken what is the most fundamental rule of
lists... be civil...
He criticism was harsh and unwelcome and would do far more harm
to the CSS cause than any somewhat confusing and perhaps inconclusive
discussion concerning
However... removing those 5 pixels would probably
throw off the alignment in IE...
Hmmm...
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 4:55 PM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] Horizontal
Hi, George...
Just a stab in the dark here, but I was looking at your
subnav.gif image and was wondering if you took off
5 pixels of the bottom so that the bottom black area
matched the border between the other colors, would the
gray area then display properly?
Taking off 5 pixels would make the
Hi, Chris...
I'm using a script from TwinHelix.com, called IE PNG Fix v1.0 RC4...
that's
the current version. It uses a CSS behavior modification to allow png's to
work in IE 5.5 IE 6.
It's working perfectly...
Go to www.TwinHelix.com and mouse-over CSS in the menu and you'll see the
link.
Hi, Michael...
I'm not sure how to answer all your questions, but I think
That IE6 responds to height and FF2, and perhaps IE7, respond
to min-height... try that and see what happens...
Rick
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Hi, Matt...
I've been wrestling with a similar issue, although with different
elements. I have some lines of text that vertically space well
in FF2 and IE7, but IE6 was spacing them too far apart.
What solved my problem and got IE6 to react to my line-height
spec was to give the containing div
Hi, Michael...
I'm new to designing layouts via CSS, too, but maybe I can help here.
Let's break down margin: 0 auto;...
That's really short hand for
Margin-top: 0;
Margin-bottom: 0;
Margin-left: auto;
Margin-right: auto;
When used in that particular shorthand,
the first place attribute, in
Hi, all...
Is there any way to bring consistent styling to fieldsets
and legends between IE and FF? For now I'm using separate
stylesheets for IE6, IE7, and FF2.
I'd like to have the look that default IE 7 applies, however, I'd
like to change the border color. That causes square corners.
How
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Subject: Re: [css-d] Styling for Fieldsets and Legends
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hi, all...
Is there any way to bring consistent styling to fieldsets
and legends between IE and FF? For now I'm using separate
stylesheets for IE6, IE7, and FF2.
I'd like to have the look that default IE 7
Can we view the problem site?
Rick
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:35 AM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] Tricky layout: centred site with bg images stretching to
the left
Hi, Suzanne...
I'm new to CSS, but managed to get a working solution with two
columns of info using CSS only. The CSS that's inline can be put
into your stylesheet, but when I'm first coding, I'll code inline a lot of
times
then put it in the stylesheet after I'm sure it works and I find a
What establishes the baseline size of 100% ?
Do all browsers use the same baseline size? And do all
browsers react to percentages the same?
Rick
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:03 PM
To: trevor on
Thanks for the info, Rob!
Rick
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged
There is a good argument for
Looks good in IE7 here...
Rick
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 7:04 PM
To: 'CSS-discuss'
Subject: [css-d] Site breaking in IE7
I have built a site which looks fine on my computers in IE6, IE7, Firefox
Not seeing the white box on IE 7, Win XP...
Rick
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:48 AM
To: CSS-Discuss List
Subject: [css-d] hasLayout issue in IE (6/7, at least)
Hi,
I'm having an issue with
Hi, all...
That title is a little confusing, I know.
What I would like to know is the relationship (perhaps hierarchy is better)
between styles on a page or between a main stylesheet and a stylesheet,
say, for just IE and one for the rest.
What's the best way to set up say, a style for a
Thanks, Mauricio!
Rick
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Silva
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:02 PM
To: Rick Faircloth; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Relationship between styles settings and stylesheets
Hi, Jukka...
If I'm not mistaken (being a fairly recent adopter of Firebug, myself),
I believe that David wasn't using a technical term that you should look
for when he mentioned Computed Style. He was simply referring
to what Firebug would tell you is the resulting css after all the css rules
Hi, all...
I'm wondering if anyone knows why and what to do about aligning
a div background to the right top corner of a div.
IE 7 and FF display it as expected...IE 6 just leaves it in the left upper
corner.
Here's the code:
div class=section style=width:100%; height:200px;
Thanks, David!
I'll check it out...
Rick
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From: David Hucklesby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:30 PM
To: Rick Faircloth; css-discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS Quirks Comparison Chart?
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:38:13 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote
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Hi, all...
I'm working on an web-based office application,
so I'm trying to put as much functionality on a single
screen as possible.
I've using scrolling div's for areas to add, update, and
delete
content.
Everythings going well except for trying to place an anchor
inside a div for client
Hi, Phil...
What's the purpose of this part of your container attributes?
background: transparent url(/images/interface/column_background.gif)
24px 0 repeat-y;
Thanks,
Rick
Hi Suzanne
I normally put text-align: center; in the body tag. This takes care
of IE5 browsers.
body {
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Subject: Re: [css-d] total centering
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hi, Phil...
What's the purpose of this part of your container attributes?
background: transparent url(/images/interface/column_background.gif)
24px 0 repeat-y;
Thanks,
Rick
Hi Rick:
Google for faux
Hi, all...
Is there a way to control the transparency of the background
color of a DIV? background:transparency 50% ???
Thanks,
Rick
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Any hints? See code below..
Rick
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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:24 PM
To: css-discuss
Subject: [css-d] How can I create a shadow around a div without the
imageinside?
I'm
I checked out another of the demos on the cssplay site
and found this code, but I can't see what is creating the
shadow...in the other code I tried, filter:shadow was used,
but what in the code below creates the shadow?
Rick
.out {
display:block;
background:#bbb;
border:1px solid #ddd;
I'm trying to create a drop-shadow around a div.
I want to put text in an inner div, but I can only get
the shadow to show around the outside of the inner div
if there's an image present.
How can I change this code to create the shadow around
the inner div without the image? Is it possible?
What would be the setting to limit a div's height and
force it to use a scrollbar after it expands beyond 100px?
max-height: 100px; ?
Thanks,
Rick
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I want to keep the vertical scrollbar, but get ride of the horizontal
scrollbar...
Rick
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Hi, all...
I'm new to trying to do things with CSS...considering
using CSS instead of tables and seeing what can be done.
I'm trying to line up two DIV boxes horizontally. Instead,
they are still vertical...
What am I doing wrong?
UL Style=display: inline-block;
. Then they will line up horizontally.
On 9/12/05, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, all...
I'm new to trying to do things with CSS...considering
using CSS instead of tables and seeing what can be done.
I'm trying to line up two DIV boxes horizontally. Instead,
they are still vertical
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