[css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Angela French
I'm working on a print style sheet. I'm trying to style a data table and make the row that contains the table header a very light gray so that it presents as the headings when printed. I styled as below, but it does not print with any color. Thank you for any advice.

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Kevin A. Cameron
Shouldn't there be a space before the '!' ? Kevin __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies --

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Duffy
Do you have a url to the page in question. I wouldnt think it would matter, but maybe there needs to be a space between #dfdbdb and !important table.PolicyHistory th { background-color : #dfdbdb !important ; } Also a stab in the dark--css is case sensitive, is PolicyHistory possibly

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread David Laakso
On 6/30/11 4:13 PM, Angela French wrote: I'm working on a print style sheet. I'm trying to style a data table and make the row that contains the table header a very light gray so that it presents as the headings when printed. I styled as below, but it does not print with any color.

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Kevin A. Cameron
Are you testing by looking at a physical printout or a PDF? Sometimes a light grey wont be noticeable in print. You've set the media type in the style sheet link? eg: LINK REL=stylesheet TYPE=text/css MEDIA=screen, print HREF=foo.css Kevin

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 1, 2011, at 5:33 AM, Tim Duffy wrote: I wouldnt think it would matter, but maybe there needs to be a space between #dfdbdb and !important It does not matter (as in: white-space is optional) - and it is ignored at parse time anyway (except with escaped characters). see

Re: [css-d] tables now a legitimate presentational device for layout according to W3

2011-03-22 Thread Tim Dawson
A point I've not seen anyone make here (apologies if I missed some postings) is that tables are still required for reliable (?) layout in HTML e-mails. So perhaps it's as well that they be legitimate. It doesn't mean we are required to use them for layout in browsers. On 17/03/2011 18:20,

Re: [css-d] tables now a legitimate presentational device for layout according to W3

2011-03-22 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Tables shouldn't be used in e-mails either, because we don't know how screen readers and other assistive technologies use the output produced by an email client. If the output is serialized, implying that only text will be read aloud, there tables or not tables doesn't make any difference.

Re: [css-d] tables now a legitimate presentational device for layout according to W3C

2011-03-18 Thread Ms2ger
On 03/16/2011 06:13 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Bobby Jack wrote: It's just a shame that some of the big players (cough google, facebook) are so resolute in their old, bad habits, that the W3C now feels under pressure to legitimise those habits. Well, well, there's a

[css-d] Tables and font-size and Chrome

2009-04-13 Thread Nancy Johnson
The site which I work on has an older form that is several pages long. The outer shell is doctype 4.0, tabular with so many coding errors I could only make it work in all browsers. Currently, I updated the out shell to be standards css based with xhtml transitional but kept the form in the

[css-d] :: Tables or Divs ::

2008-09-10 Thread Amrinder
Hello Friends I need your help regarding right selection of tags. I have created a form: http://demo.awayback.com/maknetforms/ using tables (though I love divs). I want to know if there is better way to code this, I mean, am I using right tags at right place? Is it okay to use tables here over

Re: [css-d] :: Tables or Divs ::

2008-09-10 Thread Nancy Johnson
Tables or no tables are your decision. I would suggest labeling your form for accessibility. Fieldsets are also a good organizational tool. Here is an article from A list Apart on tableless forms and proper labeling using fieldsets. http://alistapart.com/articles/prettyaccessibleforms Another

Re: [css-d] :: Tables or Divs ::

2008-09-10 Thread Jim Davis
This post has links to a number of different articles on the subject of CSS forms: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2006/11/11/css-based-forms-modern-solutions/ Jim www.jimdavis.org __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[css-d] Tables display problem in Firefox but not IE

2008-06-23 Thread Ian C
Hello, I'm reworking a website that someone else created, and have been banging my head against the wall a bit with it. What happens is that the tables (that were laid out with images and rowspans) display fine in IE but not FireFox. FireFox puts a huge blank space between the first row of the

[css-d] Tables, borders, cellspacing, cellpadding and CSS

2007-12-29 Thread Aaron Gray
Hi, I am having problems with tables, basically I want to do all formatting in CSS but am having problems knowing how to do cellspacing and cellpadding table attributes in CSS. At the moment I have :- table { border: 1px solid black; } td { border: 1px solid

Re: [css-d] Tables, borders, cellspacing, cellpadding and CSS

2007-12-29 Thread Rafael
Aaron Gray wrote: Hi, I am having problems with tables, basically I want to do all formatting in CSS but am having problems knowing how to do cellspacing and cellpadding table attributes in CSS. At the moment I have :- table { border: 1px solid black; } td {

[css-d] tables, forms and layout issues

2007-11-12 Thread Ray Leventhal
Hi all, I'm trying to wrap up the page located at: http://www.cprtools.net/international/inquiry.php CSS: http://www.cprtools.net/international/international.css Issues I seem to be having: 1) Ideally, I'd like #head #general and the table to all appear as one unit, with a white background,

[css-d] tables, forms and layout issues

2007-11-12 Thread Ray Leventhal
Hi all, I'm trying to wrap up the page located at: http://www.cprtools.net/international/inquiry.php CSS: http://www.cprtools.net/international/international.css Issues I seem to be having: 1) Ideally, I'd like #head #general and the table to all appear as one unit, with a white background,

Re: [css-d] tables, forms and layout issues [SOLVED]

2007-11-12 Thread Ray Leventhal
Ray Leventhal wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to wrap up the page located at: http://www.cprtools.net/international/inquiry.php CSS: http://www.cprtools.net/international/international.css snip With thanks to Mr. Laasko for his reply on the WSG list, this issue is mostly solved :) Thanks,

Re: [css-d] tables, table captions in I.E.6

2007-10-13 Thread Michael Leibson
From: Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [css-d] tables, table captions in I.E.6 On Oct 11, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Michael Leibson wrote: http://members.distributel.net/~leibson/table%20or%20caption%20margins%20in%20IE.htm First problem: The margin for the table caption

Re: [css-d] tables, table captions in I.E.6

2007-10-10 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Oct 11, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Michael Leibson wrote: I wonder if anyone might be able to tell me where I've gone wrong in the following? http://members.distributel.net/~leibson/table%20or%20caption% 20margins%20in%20IE.htm First problem: The margin {margin-top: 50px; margin-bottom:

[css-d] Tables problem in a two columns layout.

2007-08-08 Thread Ahmed Essam
I'm making a two columns layout for my website... I face a problem in internet explorer when I used tables in the contents column (the right one) As the left column is floating to the left, the tables clears the right side of that column, although all other contents sucha s text or images are

Re: [css-d] Tables problem in a two columns layout.

2007-08-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ahmed Essam wrote: I'm making a two columns layout for my website... I face a problem in internet explorer when I used tables in the contents column (the right one) As the left column is floating to the left, the tables clears the right side of that column, although all other contents

[css-d] tables-to-css beginner question

2007-07-20 Thread Howell, Scott
Hi there. I'm an old-school tables designer trying to kick the habit and this should be easy. I want to convert the tabled code below to CSS-only. My main two problems: (1) cleanly coding in the space taken by nbsp; in the table (2) preventing the divs from moving around when the browser is

Re: [css-d] tables-to-css beginner question

2007-07-20 Thread Arian Hojat
Need to think a bit more less row by row, and instead group things together by if they make sense. div id=container div id=portion div class=headerPortion/div divfull input id=full type=checkbox/div divhalf input id=half type=checkbox/div /div div id=theID div class=labelID/div

Re: [css-d] tables-to-css beginner question

2007-07-20 Thread Phillip Allard
Hi Scott, Just my two cents here but this actually looks like tabular data you want to display there (will there be multiple rows ?). Remember that tables are still valid tags in the HTML/XHTML language definition. They are just no longer considered fitted or semantically correct for main layout

[css-d] Tables and CSS question

2006-09-09 Thread ROSEDEV
Hi, A small question, is there a way to style entire columns in a table (thead,tbody,tfoot) based on classes defined in the colgroup of a table ? example : http://101.rosedev.nl/testbase/csstable.html http://101.rosedev.nl/testbase/csstable.css Regards, ROSE Development Silvester Kok

Re: [css-d] Tables and CSS question

2006-09-09 Thread francky
ROSEDEV wrote: Hi, A small question, is there a way to style entire columns in a table (thead,tbody,tfoot) based on classes defined in the colgroup of a table ? example : http://101.rosedev.nl/testbase/csstable.html http://101.rosedev.nl/testbase/csstable.css Regards, ROSE Development

[css-d] Tables, Print Styles and IE7

2006-08-08 Thread L. Robinson
Hi all, I came upon a Firefox bug when a 7-page order came out as 3 pages when printed. Gunlaug had the answer with table,td { height: 100%; } here: http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/76423 With this fix, though, when the same order is printed in IE7, each row of the table

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Austin, Darrel wrote: Well, I've looked through the exhaustive list of 3 column layouts that the Wiki crew has so remarkably maintained: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts Alas, I couldn't find a single layout that prevented the IE/PC problem where if one of the columns

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Rizky
Austin, Darrel wrote: Well, I've looked through the exhaustive list of 3 column layouts that the Wiki crew has so remarkably maintained: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts Alas, I couldn't find a single layout that prevented the IE/PC problem where if one of

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Austin, Darrel
What about using a min-width value to prevent the problem? Because I'm not in control of the content, therefore, someone can always put something wider in the content area than any min-width attribute I set. Seems like all the 3-column layouts work great if one is also in control of the

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Austin, Darrel
well isn't that quite obvious? if you don't wan't it to drop, you simply can't make them too wide. I'm in control of the template. Not how wide the content inside the template is on a page-by-page basis. i think you should look for something like an auto resizeable columns tutorial. not

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Bryce Fields
Darrel, I've had much success in avoiding this problem w/ a judicious use of overflow:hidden and/or using relative positioning instead of floats. An example is here: http://sandbox.royalrodent.com/threecol/. NOTES AND DISCLAIMERS: there are several different alternate stylesheets included on

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Christian Heilmann
Seems like all the 3-column layouts work great if one is also in control of the content. Alas, this being a CMS that, while we try to 'police' we simply can not enforce to the fullest extent of the 'content law' ;o) This is a good chance to plug my project on making CMS-ready CSS designs

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Austin, Darrel
In any case, if you cannot control how wide the main content will be then you either a) have a very bad CMS that allows the editors too much freedom in designing the page rather than editing content or It's our own CMS and we can only restrict content editing to a point. If somone needs

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout thatworksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Austin, Darrel
I've had much success in avoiding this problem w/ a judicious use of overflow:hidden Well, we can't HIDE the content ;o) I did try overflow: scroll, but that, while works, is goofy looking and I'm afraid will just confuse most folks that encounter it. There are two main culprits: - large

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Christian Heilmann
Ideally, if someone WANTS to put in a really wide chunk of content, I'd like them to be able to do it. Alas, the page would have to scroll horizontally, but at least they could do it. What about an overflow: auto on the content section. That way they'd be able to scroll horizontally, too, but

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout thatworksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Bryce Fields
On 4/11/06, Austin, Darrel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two main culprits: - large images (which I think overflow: hidden would be fine for) - semi-large tables (alas, a necessity for some of our data) Think you can post an example w/ the typical offenders? -- Bryce Fields

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
What about using a min-width value to prevent the problem? Because I'm not in control of the content, therefore, someone can always put something wider in the content area than any min-width attribute I set. Seems like all the 3-column layouts work great if one is also in control of the

[css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Kenoli Oleari
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[css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-10 Thread Austin, Darrel
Well, I've looked through the exhaustive list of 3 column layouts that the Wiki crew has so remarkably maintained: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts Alas, I couldn't find a single layout that prevented the IE/PC problem where if one of the columns has content too wide, it

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-10 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Austin, Darrel wrote: Well, I've looked through the exhaustive list of 3 column layouts that the Wiki crew has so remarkably maintained: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts Alas, I couldn't find a single layout that prevented the IE/PC problem where if one of the

[css-d] tables

2006-02-09 Thread jeremy
I am looking for a good tutorial on creating Tables that validate. any good recommendations? -jeremy __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub --

Re: [css-d] tables

2006-02-09 Thread David Dorward
On 09/02/06, jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a good tutorial on creating Tables that validate. any good recommendations? http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/tables.html -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.ukhttp://blog.dorward.me.uk

Re: [css-d] tables

2006-02-09 Thread Jim Barraud
This is an excellent write-up: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200410/bring_on_the_tables/ On 2/9/06, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jeremy wrote: I am looking for a good tutorial on creating Tables that validate. any good recommendations? Jeremy, This a question

[css-d] Tables to CSS design - banner

2005-12-27 Thread Bill Moseley
I'm trying to move a table-based design to css layout, and I have a few questions. I'm not trying to make it a perfect match (I'm not the designer) but I want to get it close, and use it to answer a few questions I have. Here's the table layout that was given to me:

Re: [css-d] Tables to CSS design - banner

2005-12-27 Thread Martin Heiden
Bill, on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 16:23 Bill Moseley wrote: 1) The table version has an explicit width and so shrinking the window doesn't effect the design (just requires scrolling). In the css version the DO SOMETHING links starts wrapping. I'm not really sure what the correct

Re: [css-d] Tables to CSS design - banner

2005-12-27 Thread David Laakso
Bill Moseley wrote: I'm trying to move a table-based design to css layout... Here's the table layout that was given to me: http://hank.org/demos/bannertable.html http://hank.org/demos/global.css Here's the css version: http://hank.org/demos/banner.html

Re: [css-d] Tables to CSS design - banner

2005-12-27 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 11:38:42AM -0500, David Laakso wrote: In addition to Martin's suggestions, start with a proper doctype (you have none now; consequently, ie is in quirks mode) and validate the markup. That sure is a lot of code for a banner. I knew someone would comment about about

Re: [css-d] Tables aren't wrapping like images do

2005-11-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please advice me any code that will make the tables in this URL (http://freenet.am/~mib/Gtest.html) wrap normally, when resizing browser window, or changing monitor's resolution. It's ok when tables have the same size, but when they don't, it's a problem.

[css-d] Tables aren't wrapping like images do

2005-11-25 Thread 4tune
Hi, please advice me any code that will make the tables in this URL (http://freenet.am/~mib/Gtest.html) wrap normally, when resizing browser window, or changing monitor's resolution. It's ok when tables have the same size, but when they don't, it's a problem. Sorry for poor English.

[css-d] Tables aren't wrapping like images do

2005-11-25 Thread 4tune
Hi, please advice me any code that will make the tables in this URL (http://freenet.am/~mib/Gtest.html) wrap normally, when resizing browser window, or changing monitor's resolution. It's ok when tables have the same size, but when they don't, it's a problem. Sorry for poor English.

[css-d] Tables and Vertical Alignment

2005-11-01 Thread Richard Brown
Hi Guys I have been styling a site at: http://www.bazaarbuilder.com/cgi-bin/Wilsons/myshop.php? catparid=347merchant=Wilsons The css is embeded. I have used tables but cannot get to grips with vertical-alignment. I have styled the tables using css and used vertical-alignment: top; to get

Re: [css-d] Tables and Vertical Alignment

2005-11-01 Thread Roger Roelofs
Richard, On Nov 1, 2005, at 10:27 AM, Richard Brown wrote: Hi Guys I have been styling a site at: http://www.bazaarbuilder.com/cgi-bin/Wilsons/myshop.php? catparid=347merchant=Wilsons The css is embeded. I have used tables but cannot get to grips with vertical-alignment. I have styled

[css-d] Tables

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Haneda
I have been meaning to ask this, and I can not remember the exact case, but I am sure it is basic to most of you. If I set a overall font-size, for example: .wrapper { font-size: .8em; } I then wrap the entire page in that, any table I use, seems to not follow that font size. Setting the

Re: [css-d] Tables

2005-10-12 Thread Christian Montoya
Setting the td and table to a specific font size of the same, I think, if I remember, makes the fonts smaller than the .8em, can someone tell me whats happening here and how you work around it? You set the td and table to 1em, that makes it 1 em times the page's .8 em which equals .8 em.

Re: [css-d] Tables

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Haneda
on 10/12/05 6:46 PM, Christian Montoya at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You set the td and table to 1em, that makes it 1 em times the page's .8 em which equals .8 em. Rather than .8 em times .8 em which is .64 em. See? Also, have you tried setting the table to font-size:inherit? I haven't tried

[css-d] tables VS divs

2005-09-22 Thread shlomi asaf
HI Guys I'm facing now the dilemma between working with tables or div's im trying to figure what is the golden path Sometimes div's seems to be overkilling achievement when I'm working with a layout of 3 standing columns and one should relate to his brother height Even though div's are so

Re: [css-d] tables VS divs

2005-09-22 Thread Kristina Floyd
shlomi asaf wrote: I'm facing now the dilemma between working with tables or div's im trying to figure what is the golden path Hi IMHO it shouldn't be a tables Vs divs argument - because both have their place when correctly marked up. It should be a tables for formatting Vs CSS argument.

Re: [css-d] tables VS divs

2005-09-22 Thread shlomi asaf
*hey guys* thanks so much for your replies *cristina*, have u found your css fails? mine never fall down. ill read more in details your email, later on- promise :) *dwain, **cristina, *look at this example, plz enlighten my eyes if im doing something wrong.

Re: [css-d] tables VS divs

2005-09-22 Thread Christian Montoya
If web design was easy, companies wouldn't pay hundreds, even thousands of dollars for great web sites. CSS is about learning to do it right. I can assure you that once you learn the techniques of CSS, you'll find it's a lot faster than designing with tables. You just have to keep working on it.

[css-d] Tables or Lists - Editing

2005-07-22 Thread L Coulson
Thanks again to Paul and Martin for help with laying out the products. I have been putting the parts together as both had things I needed, and this is where I am. http://www.kingfisherdesigns.com/Test/rings2.htm The problem I am seeing here is that the top two product descriptions don't

Re: [css-d] Tables or Lists - Editing

2005-07-22 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:53 PM 7/22/2005, L Coulson wrote: Thanks again to Paul and Martin for help with laying out the products. I have been putting the parts together as both had things I needed, and this is where I am. http://www.kingfisherdesigns.com/Test/rings2.htm The problem I am seeing here is that

Re: [css-d] Tables Text

2005-07-17 Thread Paul Novitski
At 08:35 PM 7/17/2005, Lst Recv wrote: If I set properties of a td, such as margin and padding, do they apply to the td in relation to other cells, or to the text within the td? It depends -- margins separate an object from adjacent objects, while padding separates the perimeter of an object