[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS bible.B

1999-02-07 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- #1 You support the "freedoms" of drunks, dope users and all the above to endanger and sacrifice a % of innocent victims or #2 You do not support the freedoms of people to endanger and sacrifice any victims? #3 or .. you are a two face hypocrite who denies others

[CTRL] Party punks

1999-02-06 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Sorry just have to ask "Where is Libertaria? How far is it, and how do I get there? if you can promise me Janet Reno won't be there I might be interested...hmmm.." /// Because we now have party mobs running the country Liberals think they can get stupid people to jump out of

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS-Disposable victims

1999-02-06 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- I started the dope debate to collect all arguments. I had no idea that I would get so many. I have created a folder to put all the post so I could sort out the arguments pro and con. When people take a stand from scratch or when they are emotionally involved, they can not see

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS 05 Equality.A

1999-02-05 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- I would submit that there are plenty of people who are crazy who walk around all the time with a loaded weapon and DON'T shoot anyone. Should they all be punished simply because they MIGHT do something wrong? /// People can't help it that they are crazy but sane people are held

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS 03 My Body.B

1999-02-05 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- There is no such thing as "stupid/illegal." "Stupid" and "illegal" are different words. They have different meanings. To conjoin them is disingenuous /// The words have different meanings ... like water you are different things, but when you get in the water you are all wet.

[CTRL] Bug Removal

1999-02-05 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- I am trying to catalog some of my lists of newsletters so I don't post the wrong stuff in the wrong letter and to pass the newsletter information to others who might have an interest. o open form c comments allowed are selected by letter owner r restricted topics v view only

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-04 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- One writes: The Drug War is marketed as the only way to "save our children." Yet, eighty years into the most protracted and expensive experiment in Prohibition in history, illicit drugs are more available on the streets, on our playgrounds, and in our school yards than ever.

[CTRL] ACLU

1999-02-04 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- I am also not going to be drawn into a debate about the merits of the ACLU's position on a variety of matters because they, like all organizations, have an agenda to promote. I would say that they definitely do display hypocrisy about some issues, but it does not negate the

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS 04 Freedom

1999-02-04 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- How exactly is passing a Law which says one cannot 'smoke a rock of crack' going to ensure 'people' are NOT going to then 'drive a school bus'? We have discriminatory drunk driving laws currently, but 'people' STILL choose this behavior. /// No law stops crime, if so there

[CTRL] ACLU website

1999-02-03 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- ***. One writes: For those who do not belong to the ACLU or are unfamiliar with their website or what they do let me urge you to visit their website. There you can sign up to become a member of the organization, get on their e-mail

[CTRL] Anti-Statism (set of ideas) Heh heh

1999-02-02 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Of course, NO ONE can represent everybody and NO ONE should be faulted for not being omnipotent in this manner. Libertarians CAN represent a set of ideals though and those ideals are the issues to be looked at when determining whether or not they are right for you.

Re: [CTRL] A Global Chance for Anti-Statism

1999-02-01 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- How do we know YOU are NOT an "EX-" MARINE IMPLANTED with a BIOCHIP (posing as an Old Granny) on a secret PSYOP to AGITATE the masses. to flush out the REBELS, or some other equally ARCANE and DEVIOUS purpose! Please ILLUMINATE me with YOUR PLAN. /// Our plan is off topic on

[CTRL] Drum Beats / Guilty?

1999-01-30 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Some of us Democrats are, and we'd like the travesty of a trial to go on for months, and we want a group of witnesses called, and cross examined. Something does not become truth because it is taped during a telephone call. Of course I don't really care about Clinton

[CTRL] 010.000 FASCISM-00

1999-01-30 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Subject: 010.000 FASCISM-00 Fascism from my Microsoft works enclopedia which comes form dictionaries and the like. I copied both definations so there will be a couple of repeats. Just what is facism? By brainwashing ignorant Americans the

[CTRL] 010.000 FASCISM-05

1999-01-30 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- #05 Belief in an authoritarian leader who embodies the ideals of the nation. Try the president of the United States DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not

[CTRL] 010.000 FASCISM-02

1999-01-30 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- #02 Major concepts of fascism include opposition to democratic and socialist movements. Do you mean like the "constutionlist" who oppose democracy? Do you mean like America where neither democracy or indirect democracy (a republic) exists? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==

[CTRL] 010.000 FASCISM-01

1999-01-30 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- #01 fascism (fàsh¹îz´em), philosophy of government that glorifies the nation-state at the expense of the individual. Do you mean like "It takes a village to raise a child" Do you mean like "It is not what your country can do for you, IT IS WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY" !

[CTRL] 010.000 FASCISM-04

1999-01-30 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- #04 Aggressive military policy. There is no nation who has their milirary in the number of nations as America. Through the cia and such groups, America has turned countries against their neighbors and turned people of the same nations against each other. Look at the history

[CTRL] 010.000 FASCISM-03

1999-01-30 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- #03 Racist ideologies, such as ANTI-SEMITISM When Iraq invaded a sorvern nation, the "great" America blew the hell out of them to be the great protector of sovereign nations? But when the sovern nation of Palestine existed and Germans, Dutch, Polish, Russian EUROPEANS

Re: [CTRL] LJ: Constitution / religion

1999-01-26 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- [The list of spammed recipients have been reduced to the lists I'm actually on...one must wonder why Frost insists on spamming this thread beyond the venue of original discussion] /// Duh if I am spamming the list then how come you replied adding your own spam to it? (As for my

[CTRL] Constitution / religion

1999-01-25 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Kind of funny modern "constutionalist" telling the founding fathers intended separation between church and state when the mc guffy readers ... school books and even the bible was used as doctrine and teaching tools in schools. Imagine that the founding fathers, their children

Re: [CTRL] Constitution / religion

1999-01-25 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- When do you imagine the Government involved itself in education on a 'larger' scale? NOT 1789. /// Silly history books, why they tell about schools in America when the british were still in control. Large scale no, rual America had no schools and schools only went to the 8th

[CTRL] Bipartisan, bipartisan, bipartisan.

1999-01-24 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- To get rid of bipartisanship is an easy task get rid of all political parties and there will be no politicians remaining in office after they are proven criminials. Presidents will no longer hold dictator power "executive power" because 34 senators are a member of his party.

[CTRL] Bipartisan, bipartisan, bipartisan.

1999-01-24 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Easier said than done. Politics requires parties. /// One of the last two things Washington warned against before he left office was political parties. Who (other than the parties) says parties are required? Where in the constitution does it say anything about people being

[CTRL] Dictatorship?

1999-01-24 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- How so? Per 1789 --- note, 1789 The President ... was chosen by the electoral college which had to choose 2 candidates (one of which did NOT reside in THEIR state) to effectively cause a runoff (serving as a search committee) for the House to ultimately select The

Re: [CTRL] A curious silence

1999-01-21 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- That has to be the most dangerous, inconsiderate and downright stupid remark yet to appear on this list. While we are at it what's wrong with homophobia, sexism, paedophilia, fascism?? == The trick is ... it is the liberals who

Re: [CTRL] Democracy Club

1999-01-18 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Albright sketched the outlines of her idea for a new, formal grouping of the world's democratic nations in a wide-ranging interview. /// What a f.. joke. Some one ought to ask the hag where one of these democratic nations are in the world. The only democracy that ever

Re: [CTRL] Dear Congressman Hyde

1999-01-17 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Dear Representative Hyde: Is omitting to tell the truth the same as lying? Have you told the whole truth about your own background, and, no, I don't mean sexual exploits. I mean important things, like the following: /// Is clinton innocent because others are guilty of the same

[CTRL] JONATHAN POLLARD WAS NO JEWISH PATRIOT

1999-01-17 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Think about it ... * AMERICA SENDING TROOPS TO DEFEND ISRAEL * AMERICA GIVING ISRAEL BILLIONS OF DOLLARS * AND IT WAS ISRAEL WHO ENGAGED POLLARD TO STEAL SECRETS FROM AMERICA. THERE ARE TWO TRAITORS INVOLVED, POLLARD AND ISRAEL DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL

[CTRL] Voting Online

1999-01-17 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- Voting on line with out a computer... Have you ever used a fax retrieval system? Right now it is possible to vote electronically with out a computer. 1) Everyone must vote in the area where they are registered. 2) This is a local call where ever. 3) When you called in,

[CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?

1999-01-13 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- .Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true a) champion of the 1st Amendment b) and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right. === There are 3 functions Natural functions like taking a ... Instincts that