Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I've heard of his report but not read it yet; he's not mainstream. Do you have a title or a URL? Thanks in advance http://www.mightycool.com/historyspotlight/08171987.shtml A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. They are *different varieties* as you have admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. It's the same plant. If you grow it for fiber you call it

[CTRL] FW: points of view

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/home.pat,local/3accca34.630,.html Murder suspect's record shrouded in controversy Related Sites: * The Village Voice: The castration of Wayne DuMond (see below) By MATT STEARNS - The Kansas City Star Date: 06/30/01 22:15 When Ashley Stevens

Re: [CTRL] Protect Your Children from the Invasion of the Lesbians and Homosexual

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- try a sense of humour (1.)You're not funny. (2.) If I wanted to hear jokes, I'd be on a joke list. You're off topic. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
intelligence and science. For details, see: http://www.onlinetoday.com/users/smyers/jfk/Torbitt.txt For more on the Farben connection, see: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/company.html Oh yeah, and McCloy was also the guy who designed the Pentagon building and insisted that it be aligned withtrue

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- If the plant is a low THC variety, growing conditions have little effect on the amount of THC. The THC is concentrated in the flowers. If one prunes the plant so that it will have more flowers, the percent of THC by weight per plant will go up. A

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you high no matter what the growing conditions. How do you know? Did you try? Or are you repeating hearsay? A

Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Specifically, should the authorities use a world population reduction program as an opportunity to remove specific populations that are historically troublesome, backward, or otherwise undesirable? The authorities, ALL the authorities, should take poison and thus save humanity

Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hess lived to a ripe old age in Spandau Prison, according to mainstream reports. Hugh Thomas made a compelling case to the contrary. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- This was reported years ago Says you. Show us the citation. on that very liberal news network, ABC. What makes ABC liberal and what, exactly, do you mean by the term liberal anyway? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- a. the mouse b. Brain dead. Could you please be a little more specific and articulate? What the heck are you talking about? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Seriously though, my wife's oldest friend (from grade school) married an ER surgeon, and he has personally surgically removed several Gerbils from the rectums of men in Houston in the 80's. He also told us that there had been deaths due to this act. This is third hand hearsay.

[CTRL] FW: Portugal Reforms Its National Drug Policy

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Alchemind Society Sent: Mon 7/2/2001 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:[CogLib] Portugal Reforms Its National Drug Policy Portugal Reforms Its National Drug Policy Starting today, Portugal introduces Europe's most

Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I know as fact that MANY things that have been posted to these sites ARE IN FACT NOT HOAXES, e.g., gerbiling, You know as a fact that gerbiling is not a hoax? How do you know this, personal experience or direct observation? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hashish is not a crop. Correct. Hemp is the crop. Hashish is merely one lof the products made from hemp. There are others. It is distilled from weed. Incorrect. It is not distilled. The ripe flowers are shaken over a large cloth. The dust that settles is collected and

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Then, these are the bricks which explode in the faces of the workers and do serious damage to their bodies? What are you talking about? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hemp is not the same as marijuana. It's the same plant. Some strains are grown for their stems, some for their flowers. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I'm talking about the people in the third world countries who cook up hash and have the mixture explode in their faces. Where'd you hear this? It's absurd. Hash isn't cooked. The process doesn't involve any heat whatsoever. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] AP: Wayne DuMond, Convicted Castrated Rapist,

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- FWIW, here’s part of what my editor cut from a column I wrote about gun control (http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/33.html). The “eleven minutes” refers to another paragraph (also cut) about 911 response time. * Then there’s rape

Re: [CTRL] Sounds like a dangerous situation.... (fwd)

2001-06-29 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Pam Schuffert of Germany (daughter of legendary former high level Air Force officer Jake Schuffert) Legendary, eh? So who was he? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] Chandra Levy timeline (fwd)

2001-06-28 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I have a rose tattoo; it has a lightening bolt through the rose, and is surrounded by the crescent moon and a couple of stars. Are you going to tell us where? 8^ ) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion

[CTRL] FW: Vlad's SIN and CIA

2001-06-28 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Subject:Vlad's SIN and CIA Web posted June 28, 2001 http://www.public-i.org/story_01_062701.htm Special Report CIA Gave at Least $10 Million To Peru's Ex-Spymaster Montesinos By Angel Paez The Central Intelligence Agency gave ex-Peruvian spymaster Vladimiro

Re: [CTRL] If you believe embryos are humans...

2001-06-27 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- you are entitled to your religion Nessie. That's right. Don't try to force yours on me. I won't try to force mine on yours. That way we can live in peace. The only alternative is another fifteen hundred years of bloody religious wars. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org

Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)

2001-06-26 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The question, simply put, is this: If there is to be an organized program to reduce the human population of planet earth, does it matter which populations are culled? That is not the question. The way you have phrased it presumes that culling is the only way to reduce the

Re: [CTRL] If you believe embryos are humans...

2001-06-26 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The belief that embryos are human beings is a religious belief. You are entitled to you're religious beliefs, all of them. You are NOT entitled to use the armed might of the state to force them onto the rest of us. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

Re: [CTRL] Playing God On No Sleep Isnt motherhood grand?

2001-06-26 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Where is this village when the baby has been crying inconsolably for 16 straight hours and the mother is at the end of her wits? A better question is where is the multi-generational, extended family that is the norm in the rest of the world and was the norm here until only a

Re: [CTRL] FDR Unmasked

2001-06-26 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The trouble with the scorpions in a bottle metaphor is that they would not have killed each other. One would have killed the other. Then the world would have had to deal with a totalitarian state that reached from the Atlantic to the Pacific. A

Re: [CTRL] If you believe embryos are humans...

2001-06-25 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Your arrogance matches that of those in the SS and your ignorance matches that of any who will not learn from studying history. you are probably a 14 year old with too much time on his hands. If this is the case, I apologize and understand you need time to grow up. My old

Re: [CTRL] U.S. news item censored in US; published only abroad

2001-06-25 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I guess those high-priced pharmaceutical ads in print media and on television are paying the U.S. media to keep quiet about stories like this one . . . . . . . . . I read that story in the SF Chronicle two weeks ago. I've seen a LOT of articles on Oxy-C abuse. My take is that

Re: [CTRL] British slaughter of animals defied expert advice to government

2001-06-25 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- the lorry drivers had a great and relatively successful protest- somethign the farmers are not equipped to do. Tell that to the French. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] Bob Kerry, CIA War Crimes, And The Need For A War Crimes Trial

2001-06-25 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- They will continue to do so until they are hung by their necks from every lamp post on Pennsylvania Avenue. The courts wont do it, so we'll just have to hope for a lynch mob. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-23 Thread Nessie
know it. Let me tell you a little something about passing. As you’ve probably guessed by now, nessie isn’t my real name. My real name is a fairly generic Irish name. There are even a couple famous people who share it. It used to be preceded by “O’” but when my family came here in the last century

Re: [CTRL] Pink Pistols

2001-06-23 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Who would have thought that an organization sporting a pink triangle in its logo would take up the right-wing cause of gun ownership? Yet more proof that the left/right paradigm is insufficient in dimension to describe the political landscape. A

Re: [CTRL] An Unanswered Question

2001-06-23 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Has anybody else gotten any word about what kind of medicine she was taking? See: http://www.rense.com/general11/an.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)

2001-06-22 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The human population of this planet is far too large, and is in every way demonstrating the veracity of the famous rat experiments. See: www.dieoff.org A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange

Re: [CTRL] Congress Making Schools Safe for Pests (fwd)

2001-06-22 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Responsible? That depends on how you feel about cancer. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are

Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)

2001-06-22 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I do wish these population reducation people would practice what they preach, starting with themselves. Or is that one of those hypocritical elite things, applicable to everyone but themselves? What makes you think that we don't? Personally, I had one kid and then got a

Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)

2001-06-22 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I personally don't buy into the fossil fuel argument knowing that Bruce Depalma and in fact my friend called andrew M can manufacture 300% free energy -albiet DePalma was the sunburst generator using electromagnetic fields and Andrew M with a home engineered catalytic convertor

Re: [CTRL] Muslim Woman Denied French ID Over Headscarf (fwd)

2001-06-22 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- So June what changed things with the Islams? Who can say? What changed things with the Christians? Once you start saying that god is male, one thing leads to another. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion

Re: [CTRL] FW: The Rising Police State

2001-06-22 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- what power lies outside that which controls the militarization of the police which can be brought to bear to confront it and change it? The mentality of the people in this country needs to be changed. You answered your own question. A

[CTRL] FW: Croatian Nazi Party Faces Its Final Battle

2001-06-22 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- NEWS ADVISORY FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Monday June 23, 2001 Croatian Nazi Party Faces Its Final Battle in a United States Courtroom Jonathan Levy - Tom Easton Attorneys TEL. 513-528-0586 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vaticanbankclaims.com The Croatian Liberation Movement or Hrvatski

Re: [CTRL] Well now ain't aol having fun. They just deleted everyone from aol off the list

2001-06-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Move to topica. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy

Re: [CTRL] PBS Boy Scout show blasted

2001-06-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Personally, Mark, I think the phobe part is that these sex-driven people may be afraid of leaving even one creature on the planet left unlaid, regardless of age, sex or species. Homosexuals are no more sex driven than heterosexuals. The simply use different criteria in the

Re: [CTRL] Well now ain't aol having fun. They just deleted everyone from aol off the list

2001-06-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The problem with moving to Topica is, they don't have an archive feature. Good point. This list is just too busy to archive on our own computers. It'd eat up our disk space too fast. It needs a central (preferably mirrored) archive site. A

[CTRL] FW: The Rising Police State

2001-06-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- J.A.I.L. News Journal Los Angeles, California June 20, 2001 The Rising Police State Former Cop - Law Enforcement Is The Police State's Servant From J.D. Tuccille c. 2001 About.com

Re: [CTRL] Well now ain't aol having fun. They just deleted everyone from aol off the list

2001-06-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- it doesn't get *that* big That depends on the size of your HD. and you can always archive them or write it to cd that's great, if you own a CD writer. Please remember that people who read this list aren't all rich, nor do we all have the latest, greatest, biggest,

Re: [CTRL] FW: The Rising Police State

2001-06-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Unfortunately the article is scary in that it implies that nothing can be done to stem the tide. Is that true? That remains to be seen. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

Re: [CTRL] : Americans' favorite institutions...

2001-06-20 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- ..the army, the church, and the cops... and the polsters . . . A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!

Re: [CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

2001-06-19 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Slavery was first and foremost an economic institution. If you really want to understand what it was all about, you have to analyze the economics of the trade. By far and away, the best book on the economics of slavery is Capitalism Slavery by Eric Eustace Williams, ISBN

[CTRL] FW:Body Counts by Paul Krassner

2001-06-19 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: ...geminiwalker Sent: Mon 6/18/2001 5:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] Body Counts by Paul Krassner This is an unedited version of my op-ed piece due to be published by the L.A. Times, most likely on Monday:

Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism

2001-06-17 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Liberals want bureaucrats to run our lives. Conservatives want businessmen to run our lives. Neither wants us to run our own lives, so a pox on both their houses. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational

[CTRL] Anarchists and leftists battle Bilderbergers

2001-06-16 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- in the streets while rightists sit home in front of their computers and do nothing. For details, see: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=46944group=webcast http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=46947group=webcast

Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism

2001-06-15 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- We have posts from the extreme side of the left in the form of gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists Gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists are not the extreme side of the left. Many among them aren't leftists at all, not by any stretch of the

Re: [CTRL] New Evidence Shows False Memories Can Be Created

2001-06-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- plant a seed in a person's mind at the time of trauma and it will flourish So what happens if you plant a false memory at the time of a trauma? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

[CTRL] FW: Timothy McVeigh- Show Me The Money

2001-06-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- --- Dear Dan Herbeck, Lou Michel, The Buffalo News, My name is Robert Sterling, and I am the editor of The Konformist (konformist.com) and contributing editor to Disinformation (disinfo.com). As such, I am pretty well known in the conspiracy theory

[CTRL] FW: really, really useful tools

2001-06-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.proparanoid.com/truth.htm#sl A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters

Re: [CTRL] The ghost of Tim McVeigh

2001-06-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/42.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [NA] More on the McVeigh / Oklahoma Cover-up

2001-06-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I don’t see any percentage in the Powers-That-Be keeping him alive. How about as an example? The next time they need one of the boys to take a fall, and pretend to die, they can show him McVeigh and say, See, we wouldn't REALLY kill you . . . A

[CTRL] FW: thinking too different

2001-06-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday - June 12, 2001 Apple gives satanists hell By Macworld staff Apple's legal team is in dispute with The Church of Satan. The church's webmaster is an avid Mac fan and had created parodies of Apple's Think Different advertising campaign, featuring cult leader Anton

Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...

2001-06-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I am representing the alcoholic mother Which court? What's the docket number? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Disturbing

2001-06-11 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- He didn't whine, I didn’t say that he did. But some of you do. They are the ones I’m addressing. You know who you are. The issue was not religion, but abuse of power. Wrong. The issue is which abuses of power we should oppose. I maintain that we should oppose all abuses of

Re: [CTRL] The perils of looking into American prehistory

2001-06-11 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- An interesting debate about this article has sprung up at IMC. Check out these threads: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=46176group=webcast http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=46222group=webcast A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

Re: [CTRL] SNET: Panel Tells Bush Global Warming Is Getting Worse (fwd)

2001-06-09 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I say this report will be used by the eco-terrorists to scare you into giving up your civil liberties of all kinds of things stasrting by giving up your car, your freedom of choice when comes to where you will live, how much electricity will will be allowed to use. How come

Re: [CTRL] Disturbing

2001-06-09 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- How come you guys whine so loud about your civil liberties when the issue is your religion, but you're silent about my civil liberties when the issues is which drugs I am allowed to take? Could it be that you are a bunch of self serving hypocrites who only groan when their ox is

Re: [CTRL] NM: Larry Flynt Targets First Daughter with $10 Million Offer

2001-06-08 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The celebrated pornogapher first began collecting Republican scalps during President Clinton's impeachment, Another Newsmax lie. Or perhaps they never saw the explicit pics of Larry McDonald in the April 1984 issue. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

[CTRL] FW: Doug Valentine on Ellsberg

2001-06-07 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- John Judge found this one: http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dougvalentine/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

[CTRL] Idaho standoff: ex lawyer as Nazi ties

2001-06-07 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=45348group=webcast A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!

Re: [CTRL] Idaho standoff: ex lawyer as Nazi ties

2001-06-07 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Typo. I ment has Nazi ties. Be sure to read the debate on this subject at IMC. It's very informative as to the problems with the false dichotomy of left vs right. Click the live link at the end of the third post. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER

Re: [CTRL] a victory for free speech

2001-06-06 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Great article, Nessie. Thanks. I try. I wish I'd had it last night, when my husband was lecturing me It's never too late the Internet is total B.S. because any idiot can say anything he wants to. The flaw in his logic lies in the word total. By his reasoning, libraries

Re: [CTRL] Boylan: KPFA Radio Report of ETs at Government Installations (fwd)

2001-06-06 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- It should be noted that KPFA is one of five Pacifica stations, the first of which was founded in the late 1940s. The Pacifica stations, in New York, Berkeley, Los Angeles, Fresno, and Washington, D.C., are alternative, non- commercial and listener-sponsored, with a long

Re: [CTRL] Trojan lets cyber-cops plant bogus evidence

2001-06-06 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Read Green's partial retraction, and the ensuing debate, at: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=45163group=webcast A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] rWhite House property destruction by departing Clintonstaffers

2001-06-06 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- PLEASEEE tell me where I may hear the right wing pro- Republican media Maybe you missed this one: From:radman Sent: Tue 5/22/2001 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Big media pushes

[CTRL] a victory for free speech

2001-06-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/43.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters

Re: [CTRL] Was the Assassination of JFK a Communist Conspiracy?

2001-06-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Actually, it was a fascist conspiracy. See: http://www.parascope.com/articles/1196/torbitt.htm And, yes, I do know that the differences between fascism and communism are technical at most. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a

[CTRL] FW: Doubt and certainty

2001-06-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- From: Israel Shamir To: Subject: Doubt and certainty Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:19:01 +0200 Doubt and certainty By Israel Shamir The Russian discotheque Dolphi, devastated by the Friday night blast, stands on the shore of Manshieh, a destroyed Palestinian neighborhood of

Re: [CTRL] Home Depot Encourages Contributions to Homosexual Group

2001-06-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Le:20:13: If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. *** This appeared on CTRL a couple months ago. Today seems like a good day to repeat it.

Re: [CTRL] Well, what did they expect?

2001-06-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- We must act to ensure [that] the innocence and purity of children we love are not destroyed... Innocence and purity are loaded terms. They imply that to be sexually aware, let alone active, means one is guilty and impure. This is a religious doctrine and has no business being

Re: [CTRL] Interview with Vincent Bugliosi

2001-06-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- They did it in Calif when the voters said no more gravy for the illegals and it was overturned. They did it in Calif when the voters legalized medical marijuana and it was overturned. Why did Bugliosi not speak up in those instances??? Why did you not speak up in that

Re: [CTRL] Well, what did they expect?

2001-06-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Cock sucking and butt fucking between two or more males are what homosexuals consider to be normal. For them, it is normal. It's not normal for everybody, but so what? Why should people all behave the same. That would be unnatural. This is a religious doctrine and has no

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- In fact,the Bible forbids it. The Bible also forbids the wearing of cloth made from two kinds of threads and the rounding of the corners of the beard. Why aren't all these rabid homophobes equally upset about people doing those things? They are both far more common than

Re: [CTRL] Well, what did they expect?

2001-06-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Add fisting to the list, too ;-) What I want know is what were they doing in Gomorrah? It wasn't Sodomy. That's what they did in Sodom. It must have been Gomorrahry. What is Gomorrahry, anyway? And how do you do it? Inquiring minds want to know. A

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- the same people who demand tolerance and diversity for homosexuality inter alia and then routinely demand that there be no tolerance for diverse religious, ethical and/or socio-political views that differ from theirs. What they are demanding is that there me no legal hegemony

[CTRL] FW: Father of Children in Idaho Stalemate Came From Prominent Boston Family

2001-06-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Jun 4, 2001 16:00 EDT Father of Children in Idaho Stalemate Came From Prominent Boston Family By Justin Pope Associated Press Writer BOSTON (AP) - He lived off the grid in the forests of Idaho, and his children were raised to fear and distrust the government. But Michael

Re: [CTRL] Bataan Death March

2001-06-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Yamashita Tomoyuki also received a death sentence. Homma Masaharu. . . was executed by a firing squad and not allowed to wear his military uniform. Compare that to what happened to Shiro Ishii, “the Japanese Mengele,” and his crew, who conducted bio-warfare experiments on

Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV SCANDALALOUS TEST

2001-06-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- That test is useless. Jon Rappaport pointed this out 13 years ago in his book AIDS Inc. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) APFN Alert - Standoff in Idaho

2001-06-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- When I saw this story originated in Sandpoint, Idaho, where Vincent Bertolini, the Aryan Nations moneybags, and the family is being represented by a Aryan Nations lawyer, I figured they must be Christian Identity. Nuff said. That's quite a stretch. I live in San Francisco. Does

Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) APFN Alert - Standoff in Idaho

2001-06-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I figured they must be Christian Identity. They are being reported as being Catholic. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

[CTRL] right joins left in call to end drag war

2001-06-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general10/endwar.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid

[CTRL] demo in Cincinnati today

2001-06-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- On the ground, up close coverage at: http://sf.indymedia.org/features/police/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Bush daughter allegedly tried to buy alcohol

2001-06-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- To cluck cluck gossip over a 19 year old having a beer is a ridiculous waste of time, effort, net space and national attention. Better to be paying attention to the enemy. What he said. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a

Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) APFN Alert - Standoff in Idaho

2001-06-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The victims are being portrayed as “paranoid” because they believe the government is trying to take their land and break up their family. Yet, by the government’s own admission, these charges are precisely true. The family’s belief that the father’s MS was caused by environmental

Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET

2001-05-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Chlorinated water kills HIV in a minute or two, however, in the splash zone (wet area immediately adjacent to the edge)of hot tubs and pools, free and residual chlorine quick;y complexes with organics, thus NOT available for water disinfection...thus, from what I've been led to

Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET

2001-05-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Could I have misunderstood all that education, and what I learned in my subsequent career dealing with the world's top basic and applied scientific researchers?Answer: In this case, apparently you have. Proper method, in this case, is to work from the epidemiology.

Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET

2001-05-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- not enough studies have been done to prove one way or another whether insects are a possible vector... It's been twenty years. Where's the data? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

Re: [CTRL] Seal was getting ready to talk...

2001-05-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I just read this book. It's excellent. Go buy a copy today. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These

Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET

2001-05-30 Thread Nessie
AIDS, or anything. See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/9.html Even if HIV does cause AIDS (which is possible, sort of), if it were spread by mosquitoes the epidemiology would be radically different. You’re thinking backwards, Andrew. Don’t start with a theory and go looking for data to support it. Start

Re: [CTRL] Bush daughter allegedly tried to buy alcohol

2001-05-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Chelsea was off limits. Tell that to Rush. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid

Re: [CTRL] Seal was getting ready to talk...

2001-05-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- which book??? Barry and the Boys A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and

Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET

2001-05-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- NOT TRUE!!! It can stay alive on an open surface (like the counter in a dentist office) for many hours. And the proof of this is? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

[CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE

2001-05-29 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I passed this on to a friend who is an autism researcher whom I happen to know personally, who wishes to remain anonymous for professional reasons. I got back this: Vaccination is almost surely a major contributing factor to the rising rate of

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