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In your nilhistic cosmology I suppose you are right.
There are three basic philosophies, from which all others derive. They
are monism, dualism, and nihilism. I'm a nihilist is the original sense
of the term, i.e., I question everything. If you don't, you are making a
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our own sinful nature . . . We all know man is corrupt.
"All" of us do know "know" that "man" is "corrupt. SOME of us believe
these things. "Man's" alleged "corruption," like "our own sinful
nature," is a religious doctrine, not a fact.
What's more, atributing anything to all
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exalting, mimicking, or otherwise deferring to elites may
provide "order" in society
No, it has most definitely not. It has brought us five thousand years of
war and exploitation.
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Are you using HTML?
No. I'm sending plain text.
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You are the only one who reports this. Maybe the problem is on your end.
What software are you using? What are the settings?
Does anybody else on this list have similar problems? Does anybody on
this list have any suggestions?
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The laws may be unfair sometimes, but they are the laws of this land.
Everything the Nazis did was legal. Does that mean you believe they
should have been permitted to do them?
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more legitimacy than that intern molesting rapist who sits in the white
house now
That wasn't the question.
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more legitimacy than that intern molesting rapist who sits in the
white house now
(1.) The rape charge is (so far) merely an accusation. It has never been
proven. If every politician was guilty of every accusation thrown
against them by their rivals, the prisons would burst.
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Three words come to mind: pot, kettle and black.
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That is so ironic, Nessie, that you could say that about "Nature" and
yet not understand that you are referring to God. Can't you see your own
hypocrisy?
Wait a minute. Are you saying there is no difference between Creator and
Creation? Or are you saying that you wors
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The problem is that Anarchists believe in self-rule, which man has
proven, over and over again, unattainable.
This is quite simply untrue. You really need to read more anthropology.
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:31:00 -0800
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++One wonders if Bush would have beat up on Enron (or the
others), to force them to supply power.
That's a cruel
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Frederick Curran
Is he a hired gun, or a lone nut?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Excuse the intrusion, but the anarchist principles you've argued in
this thread were also of "dead men" -- and fellow anarchists -- Lysander
Spooner for one.
Anarchism is a dynamic, evolving philosophy. We continue to grow, by
synergistically integrating the wisdom of the
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So everyone is tired of talking about Jesus' possible
political association.
Apparently not.
Here is an interesting forward that could open a whole
new can of worms from Fred
women want men to . . .
What kind of fool takes a man's word, any man's word, on what women
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I see it as undermining the legitimacy of a President Bush
What legitimacy?
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They believe the crucial treaties could unravel if they are
renegotiated to allow new weapons to be developed.
They are already being developed. Many already have been developed.
For details, read my last three columns'
http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/
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You would say we do need some government, yes?
We need self government. We do not need the state.
Maybe you don't necessarily like the one we have now, but are you
against all forms of government?
First of all, we don't have "a" form of government. We have many. They
are
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These people can't even form their own opinions,
That's an unsubstantiated allegation. If you can't prove what you say,
you're a lot better off saying nothing. That way you wont look stupid.
The fact of the matter is that thinking for oneself is the very core of
what it means
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Who pays for that website?
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http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=14203
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"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes
decide everything."-- attributed to Joseph Stalin
But where and when did he say it? Or did somebody make this up?
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Actually, Jesus wasn't a liberal. He was a revolutionary. That's why
they killed him. Had he been a liberal, he would have supported the
status quo and they would have left him alone. Instead, he went downtown
and incited a riot and the rest is history.
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it's still hard to believe he would make the grave mistake of
prosecuting Clinton.
Unless he actually wants to sleep with the fish.
Which reminds me, let's not forget Bush's own body count:
http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/home.html
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Decriminalization is the only solution. Nothing else will work.
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He declared that since they were living under the protection of the
Roman power, they should render to that power the support it claimed, so
long as this did not conflict with a higher duty. But while peaceably
subject to the laws of the land, they should at all times give their
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The parasitic segment of the population will always be loyal to the
government, reinforcing its power.
Absolutely true. The rich love government. Its troops keep us from
lynching them and taking back the fruits of our labor which they have
stolen from us under color of law.
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Here is a brief quote
from the Secret Oath of the Jesuits:
"You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and
hatred
between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite
them
to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other,
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Why in the word would anyone take your word that New Age is not
organized?
Why should the rest of us take anyone's word one way or the other? The
word of any individual is insufficient. Let's see some proof.
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Where were you given insight to Jesus' heart and mind??
Maybe he read the New Testament. You should do this yourself. Read a
version in which Jesus's words are in red ink. Remember, only the stuff
in red ink counts. Everything else is commentary.
A
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Daley's father was a well known suspect in voter fraud dating back 30
years.
And Bush's father is a well known suspect in the "October Surprise"
fixing of the 1980 election. ALL these guys are crooks. That's how power
works in this country. Gangsters rule America. Replacing
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No, there is no crisis unless a majority of the people refuse to accept
the outcome.
Whoever becomes president, the majority of people didn't vote for him.
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Jesus ... said, "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be
Caesar's." Luke 20:22-25. Translation: Give the government what the law
says but don't make them your God
Aren't you being just a tad presumptuous to translate Jesus. He said
what he said. Period.
The question
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PROTECTION: PAY YOUR MONEY, TAKE YOUR CHANCE
We are a nation of shirkers. We collectively shirk our responsibility to
protect and care for each other. We have no ligitimate excuse. We have
reaped the consequences. The public trust has been ravaged by
unspeakable government
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Or, bring back stonings. Yes, this is a true saying; that if there
were more public stonings, movies wouldn't be so terribly violent.
Watch one at: http://www.iran-e-azad.org/stoning/stoning-56m.rm
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Where are you located?
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http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/12/08/legislature/index.html
Revenge of the Democratic governors?
If the Florida Legislature picks its electors, others states could
follow suit -- and give the election to Al Gore.
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ELECTION MESS A CIA COVERT OPERATION?
by Sherman H. Skolnick 12/8/00
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At least let them watch Bush be cheated out of the presidency by the
son of the greatest political cheat this country has ever known, Richard
Daley.
Or let them watch Gore be cheated out of the presidency by the son of
the former head of the nation's intelligence agency, in a
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Oh yeah, Bush "stole" the election by winning fair and square.
There hasn't been a "fair and square" Bush for three generations.
They've been in bed with the Nazis since Prescott. These people are
fascist gangsters.
If you can't see the difference between Bush and Gore you
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Since neither side will have more than about a 40% support base of the
voters,
And that's just the voters. Remember, more than half of us didn't vote.
If you don't think we're part of the calculus, your counting the wrong
thing. Stop counting votes. Votes don't matter. Count
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It sounds like something out of a fortune cookie.
It's from a short story by H.G. Wells.
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http://www.newsday.com/ap/topnews/ap783.htm
AP Top News - 12/07/2000
Regional Florida Official Admits Helping GOP
by VICKIE CHACHERE Associated Press Writer
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- One attorney charged
there was a
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http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=12486group=webcast
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http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/30.html
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Learn the difference between private and government.
Why bother?. They are two arms of the same octopus. The same guys own
both of them
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_105/1050589.stm
Now maybe we'll get to see if any of those "whacko, left-wing conspiracy
theories" that were spawned by his rise to power turn out to have been
right all along. If he lives long enough to stand trial, that is.
A
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In any system you will ALWAYS have an elite who due to personality
disorders have an obsessive need for power and wealth.
This is only true in the case of systems in which money is used and
people respect power. There are numerous, successful cultures in which
neither happen.
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There is "Common Sense", and most people have far more of it than the
politico's believe.
Common sense is what tells us the earth is flat.
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| IMC NEWS BLAST |N30 anniversary edition
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:15:01 -0500
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Subject: Mistakes Cleaning Voter Databases Might Have Influenced
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Care to cite us a source on that?
Not necessary. It's common knowledge. Asked the idiots who keep the
myth alive.
Not good enough. Common "knowledge" has a long history of supporting
contentions that later proved bogus, i.e.the earth is flat, heavier than
air flight is
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Do you really believe that?
Just wishful thinking. A world without Democrats or Republicans is sweet
to imagine. But of course, they all work for the same corporations.
This so called battle for the presidency is a totally contrived. It's
nothing but a show on TV. No matter
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The Nazi origin of gun control is a right wing myth. There is nothing
historical about it. Only Jews were forbidden to have guns.
Care to cite us a source on that?
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Report: KGB ordered Swiss explosion to distract attention from Chernobyl
http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=137706
Tuesday, 21 November 2000 3:06 (ET)
LONDON, Nov. 21 (UPI) - Members of a special Stasi unit caused the
1986
blaze at the Sandoz pharmaceuticals
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Other Jews served in the Armed forces of the Third Reich, even up to
the rank of Field Marshall.
Come again? You're not talking about Milch, are you?
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the Democrats are "lying thieves."
So are the Republicans. Or maybe you've forgotten Watergate,
Iran/Contra, and the Savings and Loan debacle.
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With a little bit of luck we'll see a civil war here, and the Democrats
and Republicans will kill each other off. The rest of us will enjoy a
jolly good show. Then we can get on with our lives, unencumbered by this
obnoxious minority. More than half of us reject both parties.
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A national survey conducted by Rasmussen Research on behalf of
WorldNetDaily.com shows nearly half of Americans believe the Democratic
Party
is most responsible for voter fraud, and two-thirds of those sampled
suspect
government files and databases are subject to misuse during
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Friday November 24 6:19 PM ET
Vatican Asks U.S. Court to Dismiss Nazi-Gold Lawsuit
By Michael Kahn
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001124/ts/holocaust_vatican_dc_1.html
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The Vatican's bank has asked a U.S. court to
throw out a lawsuit charging
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While we support calls for the abolition of the Electoral College as a
democratic reform, we do not see these kinds of changes as any real
advance for the working class. This conflict, if it continues in any
meaningful way, will inevitably draw the working class into action.
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This is a country divided. But it is not a country divided between those
who want Bush and a those who want Gore. It is divided near evenly
between those who care and those who don't care. According to the always
questionable official version, 52% of the electorate voted. That
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The Mob may make their living off of foibles, "shortcuts" and play
hardball, but they're are not traitors. MHO
I disagree. The Mob is not a solely American entity. The Mob is a de
facto trans-national corporation and has been from the very beginning.
This is not to say that
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Why are they called "chads"?
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Let's see how ridiculous we can get.
What, exactly, makes this "ridiculous"? It doesn't sound the least bit
ridiculous to me. This kind of op is a cake walk for any competent
intelligence organization. It happens every day.
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" I don't want to hear one word comparing this drunk driving conviction
to Clinton's (or Gore's) transgressions."
I take it you've never been run down by one. I was, back in 1970. I was
walking, well away from the road, minding my own business
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Find me a couple of "arabs" who would believe anything the mossad says,
and
I'll give this matter more consideration.
Consider that the Mossad has agents who can pass for Arab and can lie with
a straight face.
A
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See also:
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Suicide missions have not been part of the Israeli military strategy. I
would never suspect them.
Maybe they weren't Israeli military. Maybe they were puppets.
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Jews were not allowed to be nazis. Only Christians.
On the other hand, Jews were allowed, even encouraged, to work for Nazis.
In the 30s, when Adolph Eichmann and Otto von Bolschwing were spies in
Jerusalem, they recruited many right wing
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
Surely the people on this list should know that Bush and Gore are the same
and the only real votes for freedom is a vote for an independent
candidate.
It doesn't matter who the president is. The president is only a front man.
Politicians
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If it isn't what you beleive why are you saying it?
Because it's the truth. This list is a group effort. How well it works is
determined by what we all think. I'm not offended by content like this.
I'm offended that someone would show so little respect for the harmonious
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why do you seem determind that there was a disruptive motive in the
sending
of the original mail?
I'm not determined, but I am suspicious. The powers that be have a long,
thick, rich history of disrupting conspiracy research. It happens a lot.
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It was pretty clever of them to arrange for this guy to molest his
students decades ago,
That's assuming he is guilty, which is far from clear as yet. seeing as
how this guy is a politico, it's just as likely he is being framed by
other politicos as it is that he's guilty.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
The overall bill passed, but without giving the government new
power to subpoena your electronic records -- or force third parties to
turn over that information.
And now our records are all safe because we can trust the government to
never
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
Those who post on these
boards and claim to be adult enough to discuss various theories in a
mature
manner should have vocabularies large enough not to need graphic detailed
descriptions of all manner of criminal behavior and sexual
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
Right to privacy is one thing, but remember this man was a senior member
of the Government, and he was also quite powerful within the Labor party
in Queensland and nationally.
What about the children's right to privacy? Isn't that more
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A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E
http://www.ainfos.ca/
Dear Friends,
The Independent Media Center (imc) affiliated site for the Israel
region.
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ALSO CONFIRMED IN DAVID ICKE'S BOOK)
Confirmed how? What proofs were proffered?
You do understand the difference between "stated," "repeated" and
"confirmed," don't you?
What is the relevant passage? Quote please. Cite page numbers.
the
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In a few years will we we treating Bin
Laden as some sort of revered elder statesman the way this former
terrorist is
now treated?
That's what happened to Begin.
Why was Arafat never brought to justice for any of his terrorist
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http://www.foxnews.com/national/101300/carnivoretwo_riley.sml
FBI's Carnivore Just the First Step in Internet Surveillance
Monday, October 16 2000
by Patrick Riley FOX News
Amid all the hubub over whether its Carnivore e-mail surveillance system
violates privacy rights, the
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I guess we would be better off listening to curious
teenagers than our Naval officers.
Then there was the Gulf of Tonkin Incident . . .
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How do you know that? From a biology text book?
Yup. Physics, too.
What bogus has David Icke written?
See above.
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Gore is anti-gun. Bush is anti-choice.
So who are the pro-choice gun owners supposed to vote for?
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The OTO was for all intents and purposes defunct until a high level
military
intelligence agent reinvented it.
Who?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
Hmm...let's see what the dictionary has to say.
It doesn't matter what happens on paper. It matters what happens in real
life. In real life, this country is a plutocracy. This planet is
plutocracy. All the paper on earth wont change that one
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
Perhaps he's speaking of LTC Michael A. Aquino, the Temple of Set
mastermind.
The Temple of Set and the OTO are different as the Southern Baptist
Convention and the Nation of Islam. The SBC and the NOE are both
organazations of monotheists.
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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/Swissinfo.html?siteSect=105sid=21305
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There are many connections between the occult and the Intel.
Talking about "the occult" is like talking about religion or business.
It's simply too broad a term to be meaningful.
He started to give such accounts
credibility when they
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[The tone of these two articles is so different from the ones
published by the Guardian.]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56673-2000Oct1.html
Lockerbie Conviction Chances in Doubt
Printer-Friendly VersionBy Peter Finn
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Monday,
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I can't believe that someone would take this as serious.
What does it tell us that some do?
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the original state and
development of human sexual relations. Although E. Westermarck was right
in refusing the promiscuity hypothesis
That's a matter of opinion, not a fact. For one thing, "original" is a
pretty arbitrary term. To what
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The Nazi
failed in their attempt to exterminate the Jews, but obviously they
succeeded
in demonstrating to them the various techniques that can be utilized in
such
a program.
It's not all the Nazi's teaching we see at work here, The
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This is a place for facts, raw or refined
That leaves out an awful lot of what
Icke
says, including his core concept. He writes barely passable science
fiction mixed with rehashes of old conspiracy stories, some bogus, some
true.
Shape
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http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/28.html
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http://prague.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=2060
Update of jail situation (english)
by Sky
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So maybe all these Amerikcan activists who headed for Prague to lend a
hand are these very jewish socialists, etc., who are attempting to topple
democracy and capitalism?
Democracy and capitalism are two entirely different, and diametrically
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http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4068986,00.html
Lockerbie witness 'lied' to CIA to secure life in US
Special report: Lockerbie http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Lockerbie/
Gerard Seenan at Camp Zeist
Guardian
Thursday September 28, 2000
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