Re: [CTRL] Norris Acoustical Hetrodyne Effect
-Caveat Lector- I suppose "psychotronics" implies 'mind control', especially if somehow combined with 'binaural beat' brainwave entrainment. lowers, 'credibility', and (no doubt) funding. Heh heh heh... you might want to look into this technology, it's also known as Radionics. Check out the files on Radionics on the Keelynet website at www.keelynet.com It's definitely a good read and the last I knew he had 4-5 files on the subject and all were very interesting. And no...it's not the binaural beat tech, it's more on the scalar level. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector- Kris is merely calling the kettle black and asking him to answer his legitimate questions. Thank you. With name calling ?? Oh !!! Ok...but then ...I am confusedhe did not want any talk about the Bible, and name calling on the listbut there is a discussion going on...oh never mind.but thanks...for your information. Carlene DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/14/99 2:15:20 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/14/99 6:25:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/13/99 10:41:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am curious. Do you think the liberal left would mind some conservative dude said he would put up 1 million dollars for information about the Democrats and their sex lives? Kenneth Starr has already spent $40 million to get the sexual goods on President Clinton. As was pointed out earlier, this has nothing to do with sex, but it has lots to do with the President lying under oath. You see by the law of the land it would have been fine for President Clinton to have had sex with every women who worked for him...as long as he told the truth about it when asked. The chant coming from the White House and all the faithful supporters is that the Starr investigation is only about sex. It reminds me of the chant coming from the Nixon White House and from the loyal Nixon supporters who were claiming that the "liberals were just using Watergate to get Nixon" and that further according to them "he was the most honest president ever elected..." If you believe that the Starr investigation is only about sex, then you surely should believe that Richard Nixon was the most honest president elected and that all Watergate was about was the liberals trying to get Nixon. Bottom line Nixon was a crook, and the Starr investigation is about lying under oath. Cheers, Robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector- "Carlene M. Wojahn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- Kris is merely calling the kettle black and asking him to answer his legitimate questions. Thank you. With name calling ?? Oh !!! Ok...but then ...I am confusedhe did not want any talk about the Bible, and name calling on the listbut there is a discussion going on...oh never mind.but thanks...for your information. Carlene Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carlene, you need to realize something. RoadsEnd, otherwise known as Kris Milligan IS THE LIST OWNER and chief moderator/editor, therefore he can do anything he wants. Additionally do you think he is going to sit idly by while people make ridiculous statements in support of slavery using the Bible for justification? You, Sir, are an ignorant son-of-a-bitch... I issue the same challenge to you that I issued to dumb-ass... You show me ONE statement I made "in support of slavery." Then, while you're at it, show me ONE biblical passage that condemns slavery. You cannot do it, and yet you add your stupid remarks to those of Kris... I keep asking him, and now I challenge you... Show me just one biblical passage that says slavery is immoral... AND show me just one place where I have supported slavery or said I was advocate slavery. Kris is merely calling the kettle black and asking him to answer his legitimate questions. Damn! You're stupid! What Kris has been doing, and what you are applauding is dumb-ass Kris's continually calling me a hypocrite and a liar, but never ONCE producing evidence of a lie or any inconsistency with what I say and what I practice. On the other hand, I have patiently answere EVERY question the dumb-ass has asked... Take up the challenge... show me otherwise. Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought this issue was satisfactorily addressed, why is it that you are having a hard time with it? Calling someone a hypocrite when they are one is not name calling it is merely telling it like it is. The issue has not been addressed AT ALL, much less "satisfactorily." Calling someone a hypocrite WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE is nothing by juvenile name-calling and hasn't a damn thing to do with 'telling it like it is.' However, I'm glad you jumped in here Teo10 or whatever... YOU point out the inconsistency between what I say and what I do... Ball's in your court... jump on it.. Discussion of the Bible WHEN IT IS USED TO PROSELYTIZE, OR ARGUE BELIEFS, AND OR FAITH IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LIST. Then maybe you should remind your pal Kris of this rule... I certainly have not violated it.. If so, show me where I used the bible to proseliytize... nor have I urged anyone to believe it.. What I said was that calling something a "sin" requires a bit more than mere personal opinion, and that the Southern people in the mid 1800's looked to the bible as their source for determining right and wrong.. If that isn't a fact, then YOU produce evidence to the contrary.. This is beginning to sound like a broken record... Using the Bible in arguing CONSPIRACY THEORY is acceptable, or to try and support ideas that are related to conspiracy theory. Have you reminded Kris of this rule? Where is this rule posted? Did you make it up just now? You want to argue religious conspiracy, like how Paul, formerly known as Saul, becomes the chief proponent of "Christianity" and an Apostle when he never met the Lord, and worked so much evil against the nascent church, that is okay. You want to argue how Paul's writing contradict those of Jesus on a number of points, or perhaps how he seemed to have many friends in Rome and may not have suffered as he would have everyone believe, that is okay too. Arguments that point out Paul's reliance upon the Mystery religions, such as Mithras and Attis worship for the main forms of religious expression in "Christianity" would also be acceptable. Stupid, but anything goes... These are only examples of course, and many others would also have equal validity as things that might require the Bible to support the position. No proselytizing is allowed, so questions of faith and belief are not acceptable. blah, blah, blah give me a break! The reason that Kris is going into the Bible himself is that he is trying to illustrate the hypocrisy of Hawk in his statements regarding slavery. And, I might add, he's doing a piss poor job... He hasn't found a singe passage or verse ... and neither will you... Prove me wrong. hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Black Market for Weapons Components
-Caveat Lector- The black market in weapons components http://www.phillynews.com/programs/aprint Profiteers try to sell to anyone willing to pay -- terrorists or roguestates. First of four parts. http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/99/Jan/10/front_page/NUKE10.htm By Steve Goldstein PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER STAFF WRITER MOSCOW -- On Sept. 7, the Finance and Customs Department in Istanbul,Turkey, made an arrest that should have been reason for rejoicing. Turkish agents arrested eight men on charges of smuggling nuclear material from the former Soviet Union. Posing as buyers, the agents seized about12 pounds of uranium 235 and one-quarter ounce of plutonium powder. Thematerial was being peddled for $1 million by three men from Kazakstan, one from Azerbaijan, and four from Turkey. One suspect was a colonel in the Kazakarmy. While the seizure kept nuclear material out of the hands of rogue statesor terrorists, the incident was hardly reassuring news to the worldwidefraternity of nuclear-proliferation specialists. To them, the case suggested thatthe world's "loose nukes" nightmare scenario of the early 1990s hadreturned. The fact that thieves were able to smuggle uranium and plutonium out ofthe former Soviet Union and offer it for sale to the highest bidder onceagain raised the specter of terrorists -- or an outlaw nation -- detonating a primitive nuclear device. Those fears had subsided in recent years asthe United States spent more than $2.5 billion to contain the nuclear threat unleashed by the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Now, after an apparent hiatus in confirmed diversions of nuclearmaterial from the former Soviet Union, disturbing new incidents have surfaced. From small-time hustlers to organized-crime figures, there are sustainedattempts by profiteers to obtain and sell nuclear material to anyone willing to payfor it. Many nuclear experts say the proliferation threat is greater now than inrecent years. They say deepening economic and political upheaval in Russia has increased the likelihood that financially desperate specialists withaccess to nuclear material will be tempted to sell it, or that security at nuclearsites will continue to corrode as fast as the beleaguered economy. In fact, Russia is perhaps more politically volatile now than in theearly 1990s, with troubling implications for nuclear security: At least 3,000 unpaid and disillusioned Russian scientists withexpertise in weapons of mass destruction have left the country in the last sevenyears, according to U.S. intelligence estimates. Some have gone to roguenations trying to build nuclear-weapons programs, such as North Korea, Libya,Iran and Iraq. The continuing exodus prompted Graham T. Allison, a Harvardproliferation expert, to conclude two years ago that the likelihood of a nucleardevice exploding in the United States has actually increased since the end ofthe Cold War.Security at many Russian nuclear facilities is porous, despiteU.S.-supplied equipment and expertise, according to some proliferation experts. U.S. officials estimate that only a quarter of the uranium and plutonium atsuch facilities is adequately secured. Eighty percent of the facilitiescovered by a U.S. security program do not even have portal monitors to detect nuclear material carried through their gates. There is evidence that Iraqi and Iranian purchase agents are activelyseeking nuclear technology and material inside Russia, according to MatthewBunn, a proliferation expert at Harvard. Some Russian nuclear-research institutes do not have heat or properly functioning computers. Russia's top customs official acknowledges that only about a quarter ofthe country's 300 border crossings have adequate equipment to thwart nuclear smuggling. Moscow's central authority is dissipating, salaries are not being paid,and official corruption is endemic -- creating conditions conducive tosmuggling nuclear materials. "The economic crisis in Russia is the world's No. 1 proliferationproblem," said William C. Potter, a leading expert on nuclear smuggling. "I don'tbelieve the United States fully appreciates the implications of this crisis forcontrol of nuclear materials and technical know-how." Potter, who heads the Center for Nonproliferation Studies, a privateresearch institute in Monterey, Calif., recently returned from an inspection tripof five Russian nuclear sites. He said he found security equipment that hadnever been installed, highly enriched uranium transported on a canvas-toppedtruck, and guards who disconnected security sensors after a series of falsealarms. "The situation is desperate," Potter said. In a report written Dec. 2, he added: "Not only are the guards typicallyvery young, poorly paid, and often without adequate food and heat, but . . .they are unlikely to
[CTRL] Sting Implicates Mafia in Nuclear Components Black Market
-Caveat Lector- 4. Sting unravels stunning Mafia plot http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/99/Jan/12/front_page/NUKE12.htm Third of four parts By Jeffrey Fleishman INQUIRER STAFF WRITER ROME -At a little past noon last Feb. 10, an undercover agent with a graying mustache entered the Cafe de Paris on Via Veneto, a block fromthe American Embassy. Shaded by magnolias, the cafe is ideal for clandestine criminal meetings; radio and satellite waves beaming from the embassycreate static on police eavesdropping equipment. The police agent, posing as an Egyptian businessman, ordered anespresso and waited.A few minutes later, two mafiosi arrived at the cafe intent on selling theagent a 28-inch-long cylinder containing a 190-gram bar of enriched uranium.The Italian Mafia, infamous for money laundering and drug-running, was branching into nuclear smuggling. A Sicilian dressed in a blazer did most of the talking. Soon theagent was surrounded by several other men - including a known mob assassin - allwith semiautomatic pistols inside their jackets. ``At the first meeting both sides are very alert, nervous,'' theagent said later. ``You feel a moment of danger run through things. They study you,trying to unmask identity. It is not like a movie. There are no second takes.You only have one chance to get it right. ``I had to convince them I was the kind of guy who would buy abomb.'' This nuclear tale began unfolding months earlier, when a Mafiaturncoat tipped an Italian prosecutor about a stockpile of uranium the mob waspeddling. The case - which officials first regarded as a hoax - turned seriouswhen the Mafia boasted of possessing a laundry list of radioactive materials,including eight missiles from the former Soviet Union. Authorities quicklyfinessed a sting called Operation Gamma, depositing millions of dollars in a Swissbank account and giving one detective a Geiger counter and a crash course innuclear physics.What they uncovered stunned them: An organized- crime syndicate not only hadmanaged to obtain nuclear material but also was boldly trying to sell it toanyone willing to pay $112 million. The case opened a frightening new chapter in nuclear proliferation.For the first time, authorities documented a significant link between the moband loose nukes. Three powerful Mafia families had joined forces to smuggleuranium through Europe and into the Middle East. The development added one moreworry for Western governments already concerned about professional thieves and small-time opportunists seeking to trade in the nuclear black market. With terrorist groups and rogue states eager to build crude nuclearweapons, and with Russia's nuclear arsenal left vulnerable by economic chaos, the Mafia's hawking of uranium further raises the nuclear stakes in thepost-Cold War era.``Uranium bars are weapons in psychological terrorism,'' said Enrico Sgrilli, a nuclear physicist who trained police in nuclear physics. ``A terrorist can hold one bar up and panic an entire city. This case shakesthe confidence in our system for controlling illegal nuclear materials. Itshows there are dangerous loopholes.'' Police confiscated the 190-gram uranium bar. But police andintelligence officials acknowledge they failed to capture the mob's entire stockpile.They speculate that seven other bars - comprising 1,330 grams of uranium -are most likely hidden in Italy. ``There are other bars out there,'' said Gen. Mario Iannelli,commander of the Finance Police unit on organized crime, which directed the sting.``This is very scary. . . . We don't exactly know what uranium the mob has becausewe never saw all of what it was selling.'' Intelligence officials say there is one more unnerving possibility:The mob may actually be holding eight Russian missiles. The Italian investigation netted 14 mobsters from three crimefamilies. It entailed dozens of hours of wiretaps and secret meetings, hopscothingfrom Rome to Sicily and from Calbria to the Alps. Laced throughout the operation's danger were comical moments asmobsters nicknamed ``the Mustache'' and ``the Other One'' haggled over trust andmoney. One Mafia lieutenant brought his mother along to check a Swiss bankaccount. During a wiretapped conversation, one mobster asked another how theEgyptian businessman would pay for the uranium. ``They move [money] through banks, right?'' ``Yes, of course, you think they'd do it with a suitcase? We got bignumbers here.''As the investigation broadened, Italian authorities learned that enricheduranium moves through a global network propelled as much by political instability as by criminals. The uranium bar police confiscated was manufactured in San Diego in 1971 and shipped to Zaire for fuel in a
Re: [CTRL] Understanding Republicans ///
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/14/99 9:38:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is an effort to CONTROL behaviors based NOT upon freedom and liberty. [ALL non-property 'crimes' are revenue generators :) ] I really don't understand. The illegality of murder is a revenue generator? Is not ALL crime an OPPORTUNITY for revenue generation? Do you mean to say that the only legitimate illegality is that pertaining to belongings and that those with real victims of violence are illegitemate? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- Ah, facts, how nice. Pity this sort doesn't make the soundbytes. :-) I didn't read any 'facts', just some more allegations, albeit from the perspective of Klinton supporters... If the timetable is indeed such a 'bombshell' which the Klintonistas planned to 'drop at the trial', why then did Klinton lie under oath -- as he himself now admits he did -- to the Paula Jones grand jury? June Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the only thing Clinton admitted to lying about the fact that he had sex with Monica Lewinsky? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] list gossip re Jolly West
-Caveat Lector- The following piece was written by someone on another list as a prelude to the AP story re West's recent death... interesting. -- Forwarded by Lyn McCloskey/Towers Perrin on 01/15/99 09:52 AM --- Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:36:57 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] =09by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 5ZLMa06037; =09Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:22:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:22:07 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: MAPS: R.I.P. for the Elephant Killer Content-type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those interested in the psychedelic experience of animals, it is necess= ary to debunk the sensationalistic newpaper accounts of the elephant who died f= rom using LSD. In actuality, a zoo got rid of a surplus elephant by offering i= t to any scientist who wanted it for experimental purposes. Jolly West was a psychiatrist at UCLA. Leary claimed that West also did secret psychedelic research for the CIA, although he lied about this involvement whenever anyb= ody asked him about it in public. Jolly volunteered to shoot a giant LSD-laden hypodermic dart into the elephant. The missile penetrated the poor creature's jugular vein. The unfortunate beast collapsed in convulsions. It died before the LSD could even take effect. Upon publicizing this tragedy, the news reports neglected to mention that the elephant had really been mortally wounded by the traumatic impact of a projectile weapon. While this so-called "experiment" lacked any genuine scientific merit, it made Jolly famous. Exploiting his reputation as "The Elephant Killer", he infiltrated a rural hippie commune by pretending to be sympathetic with their "back to nature" philosophy. To establish rapport with people, he patted his enormous corpulent belly, chortling "I have become quite elephantine myself!" He took photographs and made reports about the counterculture community over several years. He also ingratiated himself with bearded long-haired artists so he could photograph them standing next to psychedelic paintings. Later, during his lectures at conventions of law enforcement agents, the Jolly Elephant Killer used this evidence to portray psychedelic users as brain-damaged degenerates. Jolly bragged "Even though I had a crew-cut at the time, those hippies loved me because I was known as the dude who killed the elephant with LSD." =20 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mind Control 101
-Caveat Lector- A reminder and two updates: 1. [Reminder] The mind control work of Jose DelGado can be found in my book, Mind Control, Oswald JFK, which reprints Were We Controlled from 1968. As the book points out, the technology for this at that time was 30 years old--based on Russian neuroscience. 2. Patrick Flanagan, author of Pyramid Power as well as the person responsible for neurophone, recently suffered the tragic loss of his wife Gayle, of natural causes. The Flanagans are connected to the HAARP and non-lethel weapons research work of Dr. Nick Begich. 3. Louis Joylon West died last week. Check this out for more: http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=NATIONALSTORYID=APIS6QACN 5O0 "Mind control" is a spectrum of operations that can range from subtle to severe, from suggestive psychology to oppressive high-tech gizmos with real physical effects. Television, obviously, the ultimate mind control device. Kenn Thomas DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What Is Political Extremism (Pt. 2)
Activist Mailing List - http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/ [Continued from Part 1] 7. Extremists Tend To Have A Manichean Worldview. That is, they tend to see the world in terms of absolutes of good and evil, for them or against them, with no middle ground or intermediate positions. All issues are ultimately moral issues of right and wrong. Their slogan tends to be "he who is not with me, is against me!" 8. Extremists Very Often Advocate Some Degree Of Censorship And Repression Of Their Opponents And Critics. This may range from an active campaign to keep them from media access and a public hearing, as in the case of blacklisting, banning, or "quarantining" dissident spokesmen, or actually lobbying for repressive legislation against speaking, teaching or instructing the "forbidden" information. They may attempt to keep certain books out of stores or off of library shelves or card catalogs, discourage advertising with threats of reprisals, keep spokesmen for offending views off the airwaves, or certain columnists out of newspapers. In each instance the goal is some kind of information control. Extremists would prefer that you only listen to them. 9. Extremists Tend To Identify Themselves In Terms Of Who Their Enemies Are, who they hate and who hates them! Accordingly, they often become emotionally bound to their enemies, who are often competing extremists on the opposite pole of the ideological spectrum. They tend to emulate their enemies in certain respects, adopting the same style and tactics to a certain degree. Even "anti-extremist" groups often exhibit extremist behavior in this regard! 10. Extremists Are Given To Arguments By Intimidation. That is, they frame their arguments in such a way as to intimidate others into accepting their premises and conclusions. To disagree with them, they imply, is to ally oneself with the devil or give aid and comfort to the "bad guys." This ploy allows them to define the parameters of debate, cut off troublesome lines of argument, and keep their opponents on the defensive. 11. Wide Use Of Slogans, Buzzwords And Thought-Stopping Cliches. For many extremists simple slogans substitute for more complex abstractions in spite of a high level of intelligence. Shortcuts in thinking and reasoning matters out seems to be necessary in order to appease their prejudices and to avoid troublesome facts and counter-arguments. 12. Doomsday Thinking. Extremists often predict dire or catastrophic consequences from a situation or from failure to follow a specific course, and they exhibit a kind of "crisis-mindedness." It can be a Communist takeover, a Nazi revival, nuclear war, currency collapse, worldwide famine, drought, earthquakes, floods or the wrath of God. Whatever it is, it's just around the corner unless we follow their program and listen to their special insights or the wisdom that only the enlightened have access to! 13. Extremists Often Claim Some Kind Of Moral Or Other Superiority Over Others. Most obvious are claims of general racial superiority -- a master race, for example. Less obvious are claims of ennoblement because of alleged victimhood, a special relationship with God, membership in a special "elite" or revolutionary vanguard. They also take great offense when one is "insensitive" enough to dispute these claims or challenge their authority. 14. Extremists Tend To Believe That It's OK To Do Bad Things In The Service Of A "Good" Cause. They may deliberately lie, distort, misquote, slander or libel their opponents and critics, or advocate censorship or repression in "special cases" involving their enemies. This is done with no remorse as long as it's useful in defeating the Commies or Fascists (or whoever). Defeating an "enemy" becomes an all-encompassing goal to which other values are subordinate. With extremists, the ends often justify the means. 15. Extremists Tend To Place Great Value On Emotional Responses. They have a reverence for propaganda, which they may call education or consciousness-raising. Consequently, they tend to drape themselves and their cause in a flag of patriotism, a banner of righteousness or a shroud of victimhood. Their crusades against "enemies" may invoke images of the swastika, the hammer and sickle or some other symbol, as the case may be. In each instance the symbol represents an extremely odious concept in terms of their ideological premises. This ploy attempts to invoke an uncritical gut-level sympathy and acceptance of their position which discourages examination of their premises or the conclusions which they claim necessarily derive from them. 16. Some Extremists, Particularly Those Involved In "Cults" Or religious movements such as fundamental evangelical Christians, Zionists, members of the numerous new age groups and followers of certain "gurus," claim some kind of
Re: [CTRL] URGENT MESSAGE
-Caveat Lector- The link provided for verification on depleted uranium weaponry as it pertains to Iraq does not work if clicked on but DOES if typed in dat little box. smile DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK MURDER SOLVED - The truth after 35 years . . .
-Caveat Lector- Driver's name was William Greer. Agent Smiley wrote: -Caveat Lector- Sorry but this website is either misinformed or more disinformation. In the UNEDITED version of the Zapruder film it is CLEAR who fired the second shot, the one that took his face off. His name is William Harris and he was driving the limo at the time. He was a member of the Secret Service. How does one expose the highest police body in the nation. This is why this murder is still 'unsolved.' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 1/15/98
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Impeached POTUS "His lies were not few or isolated but pervaded his whole testimony." THE prosecution of Bill Clinton for perjury and obstruction of justice opened yesterday in the august and sombre precincts of the US Senate. Chief Justice William Rehnquist, head of the Supreme Court, rapped his gavel and called Henry Hyde, lead "manager" of the prosecution team, to the well of the upper chamber. Mr Hyde told the 100 senators hanging on his words that they were now the custodians for generations of future Americans of the sanctity of sworn oaths and the simple words "I do", spoken by the President when he promised to protect the law, and spoken by themselves when they promised to do impartial justice. As Mr Clinton's jurors, they would decide whether those two words would be preserved in the future, "or go the way of so much of our moral infrastructure . . . full of sound and fury, signifying nothing". For the first time in 131 years America's top politicians sat as a jury and weighed evidence presented by the House of Representatives that the sitting president is an incubus on the government - a scoundrel who must be removed from office. Mr Hyde handed over to James Sensenbrenner, a fellow prosecutor and hardline conservative, to outline the case against Mr Clinton and to explain the need to call witnesses. He told the Senate that Mr Clinton's lying to friends and family about his affair with Monica Lewinsky, was a betrayal, but his lying in the Paula Jones sexual harassment suit and to the grand jury, made it a public matter. Mr Sensenbrenner said: "That is an offence against the public," and said that it was a vital national issue that "a poor and powerless person" should be able to claim the protection of the law against a man at the pinnacle of power. "What he did was criminal, time and time again," he insisted. He warned the Senate that if it decided that Mr Clinton should be acquitted on the grounds that his lies were excusable efforts to conceal nothing more serious than an embarrassing affair, it would make harassment law and all laws relating to sex unenforceable. Mr Sensenbrenner listed a catalogue of alleged lies in the grand jury evidence of Aug 17, saying the President's falsehoods "were neither few in number nor isolated but, rather, pervaded his entire testimony. "He has not owned up to the false testimony, the stonewalling and legal hair-splitting and obstructing the courts from finding the truth. He must be held accountable to the only constitutional means the country has available: the difficult and painful process of impeachment." Every leading political figure in America bar one - the defendant - was on hand for an event which no one now alive has seen before. Rather than staying holed up in the White House while his fate was being decided, the President left Washington, first for Virginia to talk about community policing, then for New York for a get-together with his quasi-confessor Jesse Jackson. But Mr Hyde suggested that it would be a good idea for Mr Clinton to come back to the Capitol and testify personally at his trial. He said: "We're all interested in hearing from the President as a witness. Under Senate rules, we don't have any right to call him, but we can request the Senate invite the President over, so we may do that." This drew a hostile response from Joe Lockhart, the chief White House spokesman, who said Mr Clinton had already testified to the grand jury. He said: "This late hour request from Henry Hyde once again illustrates that this is really about politics." The prosecution, he said, "bent, shaped and twisted the rules" to suit itself. But several Senators believe that Mr Clinton should appear in the well of the upper chamber. Orrin Hatch, chairman of the Senate judiciary committee, said: "It may be that the President will have to testify. That depends on whether he feels he has to come here to make his case because he may be having a more difficult time than he currently anticipates." This sort of comment, hinting that things may unravel for Mr Clinton, intensified tension, amid clear signs that last week's vaunted "bipartisanship" is disintegrating. Tom Daschle, the minority leader, and more than a dozen other Senate Democrats, met Abbe Lowell and other anti-impeachment lawyers from the House for a briefing on the best answers to prosecution allegations. It heightened suspicions among Republicans that despite lofty talk of "duty" and "impartiality", many Democrats have already made up their minds to acquit Mr Clinton and are intent mainly on assembling justifications for doing so. Mr Daschle said the meeting was "simply to be better briefed on the House proceedings", but Lindsey Graham, a prosecutor, hoped that the Democrats would similarly seek out David Schippers, the majority counsel, to get a balanced view. The
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Bread and Circuses - Part 1
- SNETNEWS Mailing List BREAD AND CIRCUSES * - Part 1 The off-year elections are behind us, and we cannot help but draw certain parallels with other advanced Welfare states in Europe. Having seen the failure of collectivist economies in the former Soviet Union and the East Bloc, and particularly the dramatic differences between the economies of East and West Germany, one would be inclined to think that the way shead to market economies would be the obvious choice, at least in the West. The economic turn-around in Britain under the Tories, which made the UK the most competitive market in Europe, arguably triggered the move to the right in Italy, France, Sweden and others. That this effort was to be extremely short lived on the Continent was a lesson that American politicos, particularly Republicans, failed to consider. THE CONTRACT WITH AMERICA There will no doubt be reams of articles on the election attacking the conservative wing of the party whose Contract with America swept so many to victory in 1994. We predicted in our December, 1994, issue, "reform attempts would simply be swallowed up in legislative and bureaucratic inertia." Indeed, the Contract was alright with the establishment as long as nothing was actually done. But when freshmen Republicans began to push an agenda of true welfare reform, the party leadership panicked and began to play dead. In due course, efforts to scuttle the Department of Education, enact universal tax relief, prevent the socialization of medicine and other reforms were abandoned. Having failed to follow up on the Contract, the only successful Republican strategy in 40 years, the Republicans seemed totally confused by the "reform program" of the "New Democrats", who, headed by Bill Clinton, appeared to steal the thunder from the stalled Contract with a socialist version of their own. Mr. Gingrich (a member of the Council on Foreign Relations) got his come-uppance from the establishment through his book deal scandal, which cost him a $300,000 fine and neutralized his leadership. Since then he had been ineffective in leading his House majority in the advancement of any real Republican agenda. "THE NEW DEMOCRATS" What had so confused Republicans would have been abundantly clear if they had taken the trouble to look abroad. John Major, upon inheriting the prime ministership from Margaret Thatcher, almost immediately began to abandon the conservative programs which had kept the Tories in power for eighteen years, particularly, the issue of European Monetary Union (EMU). If any European nation could successfully stand alone against the threat to national sovereignty posed by EMU, it was insular Britain, whose economy was vibrant while those of Continental nations were moribund. It was probable that the ineffectual Major, in seeking what is euphemistically called the "centrist" position, guaranteed the demise of the Tories. What Clinton and the "New Democrats" had achieved by stealing the rhetoric of "free trade" in the Americas (NAFTA), the "New Labour" candidate Tony Blair used to advance Britain toward EMU. We have postulated that New Democrats, New Labour in Britain, and Neo-socialists on the Continent, after viewing the economic collapse in the former Soviet Union, have realized that the immensely inefficient Welfare states of the West, with their burdensome national debts, their current accounts deficits, their continuing trade imbalances, their overinflated credit markets and their falling paper currencies, are in severe decline-with which they must come to terms if they are to preserve their power bases. (This is the explanation for the attacks against industry in the United States-tobacco, gun manufacturers, and even automobile companies; hundreds of billions must be extorted from the private sector to shore up the sagging Welfare state.) What it amounts to is that neo-socialists of whatever stripe, rather than abandoning the proven failure of Welfare state ideology, plan to streamline it more along the lines of a multi-national fascist dictatorship. To do this, they must adopt the rhetoric of the establishment right, which has never championed the dismantling of the Welfare state, only improvements in its efficiency. This is where the confusion sets in-both New Democrats and New Republicans want essentially the same thing, and conservative Democrats and Republicans who have the only viable alternatives, are pilloried as destroyers of the "social safety net". THE LABOR BACKLASH Karl Marx, the father of Communism, an intellectual like all revolutionaries, who nevertheless dress in workers' clothing (Lenin, Mao, Castro, etc.) understood perfectly that they needed bodies to flesh out their revolutions. These could not come from the estates which Marx wanted to overthrow-the aristocracy and the church, so they had to come from the least educated, working class, who could be easily confused and exploited through the tortuous path of Marxist dialectics.
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
-Caveat Lector- Jeremy, Out of curiosity, just how old are you? You talk just like the teenagers my daughter hangs out with. If you want any credibility, you really need to clean up your mouth. It wouldn't hurt to dust off your brain a bit as well. Linda -Original Message- From: Brown, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL? -Caveat Lector- Jerry, You're such a freak. I bet if you stared me down face to face you wouldn't be half as bold as you are over e-mail. What gives you the power to determine if I'm a neonazi or not? Because I have an opinon that differs from yours? I think that makes you more of a nazi than I ever will be. And I know you're a total pussy because the last time I challenged you on this list, you backed down like a whipped dog! Keep your facile and juvenile opinions to yourself, unless you're enough of a man to back them up. JB -- From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 5:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL? -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/14/99 10:59:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry Flynt is a mushmouthed cripple The neonazis just can't help themselves. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- Carlene M. Wojahn wrote: Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the only thing Clinton admitted to lying about the fact that he had sex with Monica Lewinsky? Ahhh...but he hasn't admitted that..you see they didn't have sexual relations...he wasn't having any with her, she was having relations with him. +++ The point so many people seem to be missing is that this whole scandal started with a lawsuit brought by a woman whose credibility is severely in question, at a time when the law was not even clear whether a civil lawsuit could be brought against a sitting president. Clearly, lawyers--including friends and associates of Kenneth Starr--approached Ms. Jones with offers to take her case and somehow come up with money for her living expenses in order to argue the position that a president can be sued during his term. Suppose for a moment that she lied about what happened. Suppose also that the lawyers were acting on behalf of politically motivated individuals who hate Clinton for political reasons only--because his policies hurt their pocketbooks, for example. Suppose these same people knew Monica's proclivities and Bill's weakness and set up a scenario for him to fall into, while at the same time pushing the Jones case through the court so that depositions could be taken. Then they monitored Monica's reports through agents Tripp and Goldberg, making sure any available evidence (like the dress) is preserved. I believe this scenario--given the connections between Ted and Barbara Olson, Kenneth Starr, the Rutherford Foundation and Richard Mellon Scaife--is much more credible than the "common sense" allegations Starr presented to Congress, without any real evidence, such as any small-town prosecutor in Texas would have to have in order to convict anybody for anything. If the real evidence he had, and the way he got it were revealed, and were subject to cross-examination in a real court, the judge would dismiss the case without presenting it to the jury. Linda from: http://www.rain.org/~openmind/lies.htm The Truth, the Whole Truth . . . By David LePlunom What is the truth? Is it a reasonable goal of the court that every statement made in a court of law should be true? This doesn't appear reasonable or an effective means to achieve a rule of law. For example, what is the truth as it related to the testimony of Paula Jones? Paula Jones clearly lied under oath in her complaint and in her deposition. Judge Wright described Paula Jones' testimony regarding tangible job damages as vague, contradictory and contrary in some cases to state employment records in her April 1 order dismissing the case. This was a very accurate description of the testimony of Paula Jones. It is emphasized that this was the legal basis for which Monica Lewinsky was permitted to be subpoenaed as a witness. We have taken the testimony from the actual deposition transcripts and the complaints to emphasize points where probable perjury was commited. This will not effect the sanctimonious in the press who will continue to emphasize President Clinton's lie under oath. We have to remember that the Starnographers are incapable of being influenced by truth. No matter what the testimony showed, the Starry Eyed were just going to emphasize everything Paula Jones' attorneys were stating and ignore the truth about how weak her case was. By the way for the McCollum, Barr and Sennsenbrenner groupies, there are quite a few I don't recall statements here. In this article by the way, I have emphasized points in her complaint or deposition contradicted at another point in testimony by either Paula Jones or state employment records. I have not cited excerpts from other depositions that would imply she is not telling the truth. I have also emphasized situations where I believe it is clear Paula is not telling the truth. The following are the points that clearly indicate that Paula's testimony was far from the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth: 1) Paula Jones claimed in her sworn complaint that she did not receive merit raises in retribution for refusing to accede to Governor Clinton's alleged advances. However, the records of the state indicated she did receive several of these raises. Let us examine her testimony in this area to see if it was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth: Q. All right. And on March 11th, 1992, you received a merit increase? A. Um-huh. Q. Didn't you? A. Probably. That's what everybody else received too. Q. And on - A. Cost-of-living-raise. Q. And on July no. I said merit increase. A. Oh, I don't what that is. Q. You know there's a difference between a merit increase and a cost-of-living increase, you know that? A. No. Q. You don't know that you got both cost-of-living increases and merit increases when you worked at AIDC? A. I don't know if I did or not. Comment on Point 1: She really seems to feign ignorance to
[CTRL] Calif.: $10 MM Fluoridation Grant
I do not know if all these links are still good, but here they are. Laura aka The Pied Piper Fluoride is poison - here is proof - (New 17 Nov 98) Here are the archives of Dr. Phyllis Mullenix' presentation related to fluoride compounds and neurotoxicity: http://www.holisticmed.net/add/mullenix.txt Other web pages include: http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/ http://www.fluoride-journal.com/ (Intl Society for Fluoride Research) http://www.cadvision.com/fluoride/index.htm http://www.garynull.com/Documents/NutritionMind/nutritionmind-7.htm (see statement by Dr. Michael Schacter) http://www.garynull.com/documents/fluoridation.htm http://www.sonic.net/~kryptox/fluoride.htm Natural Health and Longevity Resource Center - on fluoride http://www.all-natural.com/fleffect.html (New 18 Nov 98) The fight over fluoride continues http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/98/Nov/18/lifestyle/FLUO18.htm (New 18 Nov 98) Links are from my home page under #7 Health http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm -Original Message-From: Lyn McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 10:03 AMSubject: [CTRL] Calif.: $10 MM Fluoridation Grant -Caveat Lector-California Headlines Friday January 15 6:44 AM ETGrant To Help Fluoridate Water - (SACRAMENTO) -- An endowment supported bythe dental community has donated ten-Million-dollars to help Californiacities add fluoride to their water supplies. The grant from the CaliforniaEndowment will help buy equipment and materials for cities that plan tofluoridate their drinking water. State health officials say only 17-percentof the state's drinking water is fluoridated to protect citizens from toothdecay. http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215 Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store.(anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartameVISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs CasesVISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business!
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Murder by Media (a new book); Helmets Are In; Bikes Are Out (a travel vignette - TiM GW Bulletin 99/1-3, 1/15/99).
- SNETNEWS Mailing List FROM WESTERN AUSTRALIA A Web version of this article can also be seen at: www.truthinmedia.org/Vignettes/wa-99.html NOTE: To cancel the e-mail editions of our reports, just reply REMOVE or UNSUBSCRIBE, followed by your e-mail address. - Truth in Media's GLOBAL WATCH Bulletin 98/1-3 15-Jan-99 - Topic: AUSTRALIAN AFFAIRS --- A New Book: "Murder By Media. Death of Democracy in Australia" * * * * An Aussie Travel Vignette: Helmets Are In; Bikes Are Out * * * * A NEW BOOK: "MURDER BY MEDIA. DEATH OF DEMOCRACY." (see instructions at the end for a SPECIAL DISCOUNT for TiM readers) WESTERN AUSTRALIA, Jan. 15 - The clock is ticking. Time is running out on the establishment media who murder the truth day in and day out. A new book is about to be released in Sydney, Australia, which will pinpoint who the perpetrators of this crime against freedom are. The book's title is "Murder by Media. Death of Democracy" (ISSN 1441-6476). But it could have been also called defending the truth in media. For, if there were the truth in the establishment media these days, there would be no need for the Truth in Media. Nor for books like this one, published by Scott Balson, an independent Australian publisher. The book's launch will take place at 1 PM on Friday, January 22, 1999, outside the gates of the Sydney's "Channel 9" TV station on Artarmon Road. Mr. Balson will also address the media. "Murder by Media, Death of Democracy in Australia," is based on three years of research undertaken privately by Mr. Balson on the Internet, by assessing thousands of articles and "opinion" pieces which have appeared in Australian newspapers. Although the book is largely Australian based, it also includes an "American Chapter" written by a US based geopolitical analyst and columnist, yours truly, the TiM editor. The book heralds the arrival of a new era as we pass from the Information Age into the Age of Enlightenment. "It is my belief that the time has now run out for many journalists and editors in Australia," said Mr. Balson. "They have usurped their right to be upholders of 'freedom of speech,' and custodians of objective and balanced reporting - by denying it to others. Simply put, they have failed dismally." "Murder by Media, Death of Democracy in Australia," clearly challenges their track record in recent years. For objective, honest journalists, as well as the public thirsty for truth and nothing but, the information contained in the book is invaluable. This book looks behind the scenes, and exposes just how the Big Business behind the major parties control and manipulate the political system to their own benefit." "What Australians must not lose sight of is that journalistic ethics today are seriously compromised, because there are not many options left for a journalist who upsets the duopoly of the Packer or Murdoch media," Mr. Balson said. " Under the polarized Packer/Murdoch media empires (the two Aussie media dons), Australia has lost its democracy in the true sense of the word. The book's stats: approximately 120,000 words; 272 pages; 40+ color photos; over 400 links to various Internet sites. An overview of the book, and an order form on-line, are available at: http://members.tripod.com/balson . The book may be ordered by sending a payment of A$27 or US$25 (which includes airmail postage) to Scott Balson, P.O. Box 11, Mt. Crosby News 4306, Queensland, Australia (E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you identify yourself as a TiM reader when ordering the book, you will be entitled to a SPECIAL TRUTH IN MEDIA DISCOUNT OF US$5, for a net price of US$20 per book. You can also buy the book at your nearest Dymocks book store the national Australian distributors for the book - but the TiM discount does not apply there. The signing of books will take place at the George Street branch of Dymocks in downtown Sydney on Saturday, Jan. 23rd, between noon and 2 PM. International inquiries may be directed to Scott Balson by dialing (from the US) 011-61-7-3201-1353; or 011-61-015-477-609 (mobile phone); or at 011-61-2-9439-1388, while the publisher is in Sydney - Jan 22-24, 1999; or by e-mail any time to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- AN AUSSIE TRAVEL VIGNETTE: HELMETS ARE IN; BIKES ARE OUT WESTERN AUSTRALIA, Jan. 15 - "What's the Rottnest Island's obsession with helmets?", this writer asked an attendant of the only bicycle rental shop on this beautiful tiny Indian Ocean island, half an hour by (fast) boat west of Perth, and a favorite vacation or weekend spot of both the Perth residents and visitors. The reason for the question was that there were signs everywhere reminding the customers that helmets are mandatory. And while the bikes were not, they
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Feds not need satellites to track civilians - now they use your cell phone
- SNETNEWS Mailing List (sent to USCMike1's 9,750+ readership - please re-post to your own mailing list) "Feds not need satellites to track civilians - now they use your cell phone" Big Brother has been watching you and logging your every phone call and travels. USCMike1 Thanks to IdsRus for forwarding this post. Subj: Satellites that track people Date: 99-01-15 00:39:06 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W.G.E.N.) === SCAN THIS NEWS 1/14/99 All cellular phones now incorporate the same technology discussed below. In 1998 the FCC began requiring cellular service providers to develop systems that would allow a cell-phone user to be located anywhere within the coverage area in case the user dials 911. By 2001 the cellular system will be able to locate a phone within a 125-meter radius. [see: 'E911' Turns Cell Phones into Tracking Devices] [http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/9502.html] -- Satellite Offenders by Joseph Rose 13.Jan.99.PST http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/17296.html Satellites that track people are no longer reserved for enemies of the state. Global Positioning System technology is now being used to monitor convicted criminals on probation, parole, home detention, or work release. SecurityLink, a subsidiary of telecommunications giant Ameritech, said the Satellite Monitoring and Remote Tracking system, or SMART, allows corrections officials to watch an offender's every move. It gives prisons and jails "the ultimate electronic monitoring solution when they need it most," said SecurityLink project director Ed Maier. ---[snip--- "Now, for the first time, we have the technology to monitor an offender's whereabouts in real time," said Bill Kimberlin, chief probation officer for the Sandusky Municipal Court in Sandusky, Ohio, which began using SMART two weeks ago. ---[snip--- Developed by Pro Tech Monitoring Equipment of Palm Harbor, Florida, SMART uses the 24-satellite system to track the location of offenders around the clock. Convicts carry a small tracking device, which receives coordinates from GPS satellites and communicates them to a monitoring center. - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Reno finds no wrongdoing by Gore aide
-Caveat Lector- [01/14] Reno finds no wrongdoing by former top Gore aide WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Attorney General Janet Reno said Thursday that no further investigation was required of criminal allegations involving Peter Knight, a former top aide to Vice President Al Gore. Refusing to move toward an independent counsel probe, Reno ended a 30-day review into whether Knight, who managed the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign, helped another Gore friend get favorable terms on a government lease and lied about it. The allegations involving Knight, who is expected to play a key role in Gore's 2000 presidential bid, were sent to the Justice Department by a congressional committee last month. Reno said in a statement that she concluded that she does not possess ``specific and credible information'' that Knight, who is covered by the independent counsel law, ``may have violated federal criminal law.'' She said there was ``no basis'' to begin a preliminary investigation into the allegations. The House Commerce Committee alleged that Knight helped Tennessee businessman and real estate developer Franklin Haney get the favorable terms on the lease and that in return Haney contributed $280,000 to the Democrats. The committee also alleged that Knight, a former chief of staff to Gore, lied to it about a $1 million fee Haney paid him. Reno twice late last year refused to seek an independent counsel to investigate Gore on campaign-related questions. In December, Reno decided against an independent counsel to investigate President Clinton and Gore over political ads financed by the Democratic Party during the 1996 election. In late November, Reno decided not to seek an independent counsel to investigate whether Gore lied to FBI agents about telephone fund-raising calls from his office during the 1996 presidential election campaign. Haney faces charges brought by a Justice Department task force investigating campaign finance abuses that he made nearly $80,000 in illegal contributions to Clinton's reelection effort and to two other candidates from Tennessee. The House Commerce Committee investigated financial and political ties between Haney and top Democratic officials, including Knight, over the lease of the Portals building in Washington, D.C. It is scheduled to become the Federal Communications Commission's new headquarters. The panel questioned whether $1 million payments to Knight and former Tennessee senator Jim Sasser were illegal contingency fees and whether they used their political influence to gain a government lease. Last Updated: 01/14/99 19:28 EST Copyright 1998 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication and redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. http://legalnews.findlaw.com/news/19990114/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cargill and Continental Grain merger
-Caveat Lector- [01/14] Cargill antitrust issues complicated, Iowa State economist says WASHINGTON, Jan 14 (Reuters) - Cargill Inc.'s acquisition of the grain business of Continental Grain Co. would give it control over 36 percent of ship loading capacity in the Louisiana and Texas Gulf, up from 26 percent currently, according to a new study by a team of university economists. But the complicated dynamics of the U.S. grain export market make it difficult to evaluate the deal's impact on competition and prices in some areas, they said. Cargill, based in Minnetonka, Minn., is the largest privately held U.S. company and the world's largest private agribusiness company. It's the No. 1 U.S. grain exporter and one of the world's largest food processors. Cargill's other operations include petroleum and financial futures trading. Continental Grain, headquartered in New York City, is the second largest U.S. grain exporter. After selling that business, Continental Grain plans to change its name to ContiGroup Companies and will be involved in such diverse enterprises as financial services, meat processing, flour milling, and natural gas trading. A "white paper" analysis of the proposed Cargill/Continental deal was put together by economists at Iowa State University, Oklahoma State University and North Dakota State University. The paper outlined general U.S. grain market conditions and did not reach any conclusions on the benefits or drawbacks of the acquisition. The economists interviewed experts at the U.S. Agriculture Department, the Chicago Board of Trade, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and Cargill for data. "We prepared this as a white paper so that others can have the facts and things they ought to think about to have an informed debate," said Marvin Hayenga, an ISU economist and lead author. Several farm groups and Democratic senators have criticized the acquisition, claiming the combination of the top two U.S. grain exporters could decrease competition. Sen. Richard Lugar, an Indiana Republican who heads the Senate Agriculture Committee, has scheduled a hearing later this month on concentration in the farm sector. Big change in Louisiana/Gulf The Cargill acquisition would result in relatively little additional market concentration in overall U.S. storage and acquisition of grain by farmers, or at most river barge terminals, he said. But specific terminals could see big increases, Hayenga said. Cargill, which aims to finalize the deal by the end of the first quarter, contends the acquisition will help it become more competitive and efficient in moving U.S. farmers' grain to market. One of the biggest increases in concentration under the deal would be in the combined Louisiana and Texas Gulf port area, where Cargill would grow to 36 percent of market share, the study said. "The advantages of low-cost barge transportation may make the Louisiana Gulf ports more attractive destinations than the Texas Gulf for export grain from many parts of the upper Midwest," the study said. But it added that the Gulf ports also are competitive with each other and "probably" with East Coast and Great Lakes ports for export business. The Texas Gulf ports also compete with the Pacific Northwest ports for some grain shipments from the western farm belt that is headed to Asia, the study said. "Thus, the shares by leading firms in a local or regional area may not be a good indicator of their potential impact on competition and prices in those areas," the study said. Cargill, ADM would control Illinois River Along the northern Illinois River -- a key delivery area for futures contracts -- the deal would give Cargill 27 percent of the terminal storage, the study found. That would be second only to Archer Daniels Midland Co. [ADM], which now controls 49 percent of facilities north of Pekin, Ill. "Cargill's acquisition might not appear problematic in this area if ADM was not so large," the study said. "However, the combination of these two large players and their share of volume traded, not just storage capacity, in the futures market delivery area may prompt closer examination by the Justice Department." The Chicago Board of Trade may need to expand its wheat and corn delivery areas to eliminate any appearance of the risk of manipulation of deliveries, handling costs or futures prices, the study said. "Excess capacity by smaller elevator competitors, other processors, feed companies, etc., and ease of entry might ease concerns about excess market power in this regional market," the report said. The study also said there were many competitors to buy grain from farmers in most areas. "The acquisition probably will make little difference in local competition for farmers' grain," it said. Last Updated: 01/14/99 21:52 EST Copyright 1998 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication and redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 9:20:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- My, my getting testy aren't we. In a message dated 1/14/99 11:58:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Gee, hypocrite hawk, how come we are not still doing this today? Taking slaves in warfare? I mean the Bible says we can; sez H. Hawk. We, who? I'm not, for one reason, because I'm not fighting any wars at this time... Maybe later. = Well, let us see, hawk didn't answer this question. Just some 'cute' words. = I told you why "we" are not taking slaves in warfare.. One reason is because I am not engaged in any applicable warfare in which slaves might be taken.. Another reason is, as I have said many times, I do not want any slaves. If by "we" you mean the United States, I cannot answer for the govm't... I could only presume that they would rather kill people than take slaves. It doesn't mean that they necessarily have an aversion to slavery... and in fact (to keep this topical), I venture there are plans (conspiracies) in the pot right now to enslave people. = Again a 'cute' answer, while evaded any real answer. I submitt that 'we' as a nation do not take slaves is because it is Wrong and can't be sold under even wuth some muddle-headed 'religious doctrine'. Not because our government wishes to kill humans instead of taking slaves -a truly ignorant answer. Conspiracies to decieve people and to 'enslave' them to political and technocratic pogroms is different than the institution of humans OWNING other humans. = So a slave has his personal sovereignty? I would submit that his personal sovereignty has been stolen. You just continue to show yourself to be an ignorant hypocrite. And you continue to show yourself the equivalent of a gradeschool fool... I think whatever you are doing, you are needed somewhere as the village idiot. = Again, hawk has not answered any question or dealt with the issue at hand but has resorted to name calling and more 'cute' answers. I submit again, does a slave have personal sovereignty? = I do not know the definition of words or phrases you concoct. If by "personal" you mean "as an individual" and "sovereignty" you mean absolute control over his affairs, then my answer is "No, a slave does not have personal sovereignty." In fact, neither do non-slaves. = Ok, who took the personal sovereinty from the slave? Does this not constitute theft? Again you try and change the subject by commiserating on the political realities of today. = Did Jesus have long hair? I don't know... = Hawk can you please tell me what rules are valid in the Old Testament and which aren't? = Which "rules" are you asking about? I don't know how you are using the word, "valid." If you mean do the "laws" of Leviticus have jurisdiction over Christians, the answer is "no." If, for instance, you mean "The 10 Commandments," the answer is "None of them." and I base that on, among other passages, Romans 7. There are many passages (particularly entire book of Galatians, and much of Ephesians) that teach specifically, "If you wish to apply any portion of the law upon yourself as an obligation, then you must apply all of it. It is a package deal." However for you, as a Celtic Bhuddist, whatever in the hell that is, it ALL applies to you, according to my understanding of New Testament doctrine on this matter. = So if none of the above rules apply, why did you hypocritically quote certain 'rules' from Numbers to back-up your assertion that slavery isn't a wrong action. I have never claimed to be a Celtic Buddhist. So what are the rules, Pope Hawk? And how come you favour the words of saul/paul over the words of Jesus the Nazerite AKA The Christ? Do you really enjoy showing the world your hypocrisy and ignorance? There is some entertainment value, though. = Hawk - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 10:44:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And I know you're a total pussy because the last time I challenged you on this list, you backed down like a whipped dog! Keep your facile and juvenile opinions to yourself, unless you're enough of a man to back them up. Jeremy, I will condescend to reply to your insolent post but do not think that i have any obligation to correspond with a midget like yourself. The reason that you are a pathetic mindless little boy pretending to be one of the boys and full of machismo is that you publicly and, presumably, proudly use an insensitive and offensive characterization for a disabled man. He is now spending a considerable fortune to inform the rest of us of the degree of hypocrisy in the accusers President Clinton. In other words, Flynt is doing a good thing. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] NSA Bans Furbies]
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Jesus Christ yourself, it is just a little fun. I don't think anyone is saying that the Furby's are an alien plot to overthrow us or anything . . . then again maybe they are. . . Furry, Furry, Furry. . . . Teo1000 Well, if the damn things are made in China, and they're sitting there, just *listening* and *recording* everything we say...it would be so easy for a Chinese satellite passing over the US to beam a trigger signal to each Furby as it passes overhead, whereupon each "toy" would disgorge all of the secrets it had noted... I *don't* trust Furbies... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sugar, Aspartame, and Stevia
OneWordDescription BriefDescription SiteUrl SiteName PageName sugar sugar and aspartame http://www.cspinet.org/sodapop/liquid_candy.htm Liquid Candy How Soft Drinks are Harming Americans' Health Liquid Candy sugar http://cnn.com/HEALTH/9812/31/health.sugar.reut/index.html sugar Stevia and Natural Sweeteners http://trufax.org/research/f16.html Leading Edge Research Artificial Sweeteners: Suppression of Natrual Stevia Leaves and the extract Stevioside sugar Diabetes and Hypoglycemia http://trufax.org/research/f11.html Leading Edge Research The Deliberate Use of Refined Sugar to Assist Degenerative Disease sugar The Effect of Sugar, Synthetic Colorings and Flavors on the Brain http://trufax.org/research/f13.html Leading Edge Research The Effect of Sugar, Synthetic Colorings and Flavors on the Brain sugar sugar, diabetes, hypoglycemia, http://trufax.org/research/f11.html Leading Edge Research The Deliberate Use of Refined Sugar to Assist Degenerative Disease aspartame http://www.vegsource.com/davis/sweeteners.htm aspartame Artificial Sweeteners: Aspartame - NutraSweet - Benevia http://trufax.org/research/f18.html Leading Edge Research Artificial Sweeteners: Aspartame - NutraSweet - Benevia Aspartame Aspartame - Holistic Med http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ Holistic Med Aspartame Aspartame Information http://www.dorway.com Dorway Com Aspartame Aspartame International w/links http://www.w3-mediator.de/mcs/index.htm MCS International Aspartame Aspartame site and book http://www.sweetpoison.com/ Sweet Poison Sweet Poison http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215 Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store.(anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartameVISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs CasesVISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business!
[CTRL] Hermeneutics
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/mweb Main Entry: her·me·neu·tics Pronunciation: -tiks Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction Date: 1737 : the study of the methodological principles of interpretation (as of the Bible) Hawk offered for consideration: : However, there is only ONE correct interpretation of any written passage... and : that is what the writer had in mind when he wrote it... The trick is to determine : what that was... and this is best done by following rules of hermaneutics (a field : of study of which you admit you have no experience). I believe my statements about (A) taking things within the *context* of the TIMES and (B) my apology for not having been (consciously) in any era other than the one in which I currently (consciously) exist correspond to the following (esp elements of #6a). (Not a bad guesser, eh?) Now, before anyone does a strictly 'theological' take on the following, I would offer for consideration that the whole approach to be effective in almost any sphere of thought. If we watch the 'impeachment' trial, merely replacing the 'theological' terms with 'legalisms' (as expounded by the elected and their representatives), the application of 'hermeneutics' is an exhibition of their efforts (Clinton meant this by what he said or gestured or whateverhaveyou). Or, if we read articles (rarities on this forum), the same approach may be taken as well. Note the initial point reads "esp. biblical" meaning "not necessarily confined thereto." This is one aspect of 'research': providing one's analysis, with references and definitions, in relation to others', also known as 'comparative analysis'. Perhaps 'hermeneutics' is new as term, for me and others, but from my own experience as a student of foreign languages and other esoteric pursuits, the objective of the subject is fairly familiar and straightforward and of invaluable use to assist with my researching of my recollection for the specificity of information pertinent to the issue(s) at hand. In fact, my point on 'slavery' dovetails well with #2c in that not only the language is 'evolving' but the whole society has made some remarkable strides in its evolution as well, rendering the atmosphere of that and any other past time very much up to the active imaginations (fancies, phantasies, whathaveyou) of its students. Any student must remember the eral (of an era) lens through which he or she is viewing the (past) subject at hand. I would say THIS is also an 'hermaneutical' principle as well (2d, 2e, e.g.). From http://www.greatnorthern.net/~ken/herm.html Hermeneutics - General Principals 1. What is Hermeneutics? a. the science of Interpretation - esp. biblical b. Establishes and classifies principles, methods and rules by which the meaning of an author can be ascertained. c. " the redundant explanations of common sense interspersed with choice tidbits of gobbledygook making a concise statement of rules and methods for understanding those things that might otherwise have remained perfectly clear." d. difference and similarities between Interpretation and translation e. Make it clear and give the meaning: Neh 8:7,8 Luke 24:27 2. Why is Hermeneutics necessary? reasons: a. We have a Heavenly message conveyed in human language. b. the biblical languages differ widely from English in grammatical structure and idiomatic usage. c. the English language itself is constantly changing. d. the eastern, biblical culture is vastly different from our western culture. e. the bible is an ancient book. f. the mind of Man is worldly and the heart of man is deceitful and wicked. Jer 17:9 g. false teachers are growing worse and worse; twisting, teaching, and deceiving. h. Satan is still misquoting the Scriptures! 3. What are the necessary requirements of the biblical interpreter? a. Born again- for the natural man receives not the things of the spirit of God..." 1 Cor 2:14 b. Love the Truth or God will send delusion..." 2 Thess 2:10-11 c. Chose God's will and you'll know the doctrine..." John 7:17 d. Desire the sincere milk of the Word..." 1 Pet 2:2 e. Receive it as it is indeed: the Word of God..." 1 Thess 2:13 4. What must we avoid? a. Approaching God's word with preconceived doctrinal, social, or personal biases b. Approaching God's word with an Unteachable spirit c. Approaching God's word with an Arrogant, Intellectual attitude d. Approaching God's word with a desire to justify our sin e. Approaching God's word with a blind eye to those parts that convict us of sin 5. What tools and/or special knowledge is required ? a. Bible b. Principles of Hermeneutics c. Hebrew/Greek word studies d. Working knowledge of biblical cultures e. Understanding of Idiomatic usage in the Bible Idioms Hebrewisms "Step on the gas" and "Get the lead out!" - A formula for making unleaded gasoline? "sunrise" or "sunset"
Re: [CTRL] Mind Control 101
-Caveat Lector- I would like to have your opinion (or anyone's opinion) on this site: http://www.monroe-inst.com/ Would you consider this "mind control"? ME On Friday, January 15, 1999 7:44 AM, Kenn Thomas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- A reminder and two updates: 1. [Reminder] The mind control work of Jose DelGado can be found in my book, Mind Control, Oswald JFK, which reprints Were We Controlled from 1968. As the book points out, the technology for this at that time was 30 years old--based on Russian neuroscience. 2. Patrick Flanagan, author of Pyramid Power as well as the person responsible for neurophone, recently suffered the tragic loss of his wife Gayle, of natural causes. The Flanagans are connected to the HAARP and non-lethel weapons research work of Dr. Nick Begich. 3. Louis Joylon West died last week. Check this out for more: http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=NATIONALSTORYID=APIS6QACN 5O0 "Mind control" is a spectrum of operations that can range from subtle to severe, from suggestive psychology to oppressive high-tech gizmos with real physical effects. Television, obviously, the ultimate mind control device. Kenn Thomas DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 1:55:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you have the gall to attack my intelligence Calm down and take your medication, Jeremy. Just one question, young man. Have you ever been institutionalized? Your friend Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Monsanto
The Data Base is getting there. It better, we have to do a Data Base for class and I only have 4 weeks left. Also lets not forget the Monsanto potato that is registered as a pesticide with the EPA - but - the FDA has no rules on this so it is not required to be labeled on the bag. Just a thought next time you shop because it also is modified to resiste a human antibiotic. PageName SiteUrl OneWordDescription The American Farmer up a Creek - without the paddle http://www.greenpeace.org/~geneng/ terminator http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215 Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store.(anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartameVISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs CasesVISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business!
[CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- STRIPED SLEEVES MEAN IMPEACHMENT IS MILITARY? = (CNNS, 01/15/99) -- Those are not just striped sleeves Chief Judge William Rehnquist is wearing as he presides over the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. Those are GOLD-striped sleeves. An article in the New York Times (Electronic Edition) dated Jan. 15, 1999, describes Judge Rehnquist specifically as "resplendent in his black gown with four gold stripes on each sleeve." A commentary in the New York Post, by Steve Dunleavy, also sees gold, but Dunleavy describes "three gold stripes on his robe." ["We Could Witness A Total Travesty If Republicans Fold," by Steve Dunleavy. NYPost, 1/15/99] There is disagreement between the NYTimes and NYPost as to whether there are 3 or 4 stripes, but both agree that those are gold stripes Judge Rehnquist is wearing. Why the sudden new fashion in judicial wear?Rehnquist reportedly says he copied the gold-striped style "after seeing a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta." [Dunleavy. Op. cit.] Is Judge Rehnquist's explanation believable? That a scholarly jurist, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, approaches the somber and serious business of presiding over the impeachment trial of a U.S. President with such a flippant attitude? One of the most serious proceedings, if not THE most serious proceeding, over which Rehnquist is ever to preside, and he is so humorous, light-hearted and cavalier that he copies his style of robe from a Gilbert Sullivan operetta? CNNS does not believe Rehnquist's explanation as to why he is suddenly wearing gold-stripes on his judicial robe. And since Rehnquist's Gilbert Sullivan story is implausible and therefore a cover story, and hides whatever the REAL reason is for the sudden change in judicial wardrobe, then what is it that Rehnquist's cover story is meant to hide? -+- A Rosetta Stone -+- Rehnquist's gold stripes are a Rosetta Stone, unlocking many mysteries. If Rehnquist is wearing 4 gold stripes on each sleeve, then according to "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) those 4 gold stripes are equivalent to the rank of Full Admiral in the U.S. Navy. A researcher has published to a conspiracy research mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) what he has uncovered as to the possible significance of Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeves. He writes, in part, that There has been some discussion among law researchers that indicates that the gold fringe on the US flag indicates martial law rule. If you recall the old westerns when the US cavalry showed up they all had gold braids on the trumpet, flag, and on the shoulders. We know for certain that they were under martial law, for the federal government was governing the territories directly previous to them entering as states. -+- The Military Connection -+- In Edward Gibbon's great book, "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," the author repeatedly describes how, with the accession of each new Roman Emperor, a pre-requisite was, often, approval by the military. Following the death of Constantine, for example, "a loud and unanimous declaration was procured from the troops that they would suffer none except the sons of their lamented monarch to reign over the Roman empire." Military support was crucial; without it, the Caesars could not rule. As the Roman Empire decayed over the centuries, military support became increasingly necessary and support from the Roman senate was no longer very important. Over several years, Sherman Skolnick, chairman of the Chicago-based public interest research group, Citizens' Committee To Clean Up The Courts, has reported on attempts by U.S. military brass to arrest their Commander-in-Chief, Bill Clinton, under provisions of the U.S. Military Code of Justice.Does Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeve robe suggest that something like a military arrest or military trial has occurred or is occurring? Or is the new-style judicial robe merely a symbolic message from the military, warning Clinton of their power? Contacted by CNNS, Mr. Skolnick further noted that the striped-sleeve style of judicial robe was *de rigueur* in Nazi Germany. -+- The Intelligence Connection -+- Heading the team of prosecutors conducting the impeachment trial is Congressman Henry Hyde. Mr. Skolnick has repeatedly reported that Hyde oversees the CIA "Black Budget," highly-classified accounts of how CIA spends its money. Hyde also, according to Skolnick, is a retired Naval Reserve Commander. So with Chief Prosecutor Hyde, we have another murky figure participating in the developing drama. In past reports, Ru Mills has emphasized two factions in the intelligence "community": Faction 1 and Faction 2.
[CTRL] JAMA Jammin'
-Caveat Lector- Well, you know ... The Senators have been waiting for some new evidence to influence their proceedings and if you can't believe the JAMA, who or what or how can you believe? This ought to inject some serum of truth into the House's corpus corruptilius. From http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/ap_us/story.html?s=v/ap/19990115/us/ jama_editor_1.html Friday January 15 11:58 AM ET JAMA Editor Fired Over Sex Article Picture: AP Photo AP Photo By BRENDA C. COLEMAN AP Medical Writer CHICAGO (AP) - The editor of The Journal of the American Medical Association was fired today, and The Associated Press learned it was because he published a research article about college students' sexual attitudes apparently to coincide with President Clinton's impeachment trial. Dr. George D. Lundberg, editor of JAMA for 17 years, confirmed he had been called at home this morning and fired by AMA Executive Vice President E. Ratcliffe Anderson Jr. He declined to discuss the reason or release any other details on the advice of his attorney. ``This is a really big story, especially when you find out why,'' Lundberg, 65, said without elaborating. Until recently, he had said he hoped to break the 25-year record for editorship of JAMA held by the late Dr. Morris Fishbein. The article, to be published in the Jan. 20 JAMA, explored what Americans mean by the phrase ``had sex.'' The study of 599 college students, who were interviewed in 1991, found that 59 percent of them did not consider oral-genital contact as having ``had sex.'' Clinton said during his grand jury testimony that oral sex was not one of the acts covered in his definition of sexual relations. He is accused of lying about his relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky and trying to cover it up. June M. Reinisch, author of the article, said Lundberg told her this morning he was fired because he published the research. ``I'm absolutely shocked,'' said Reinisch, retired director of the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender and Reproduction in Bloomington, Ind., which conducted the research. ``This may have to do with issues of academic freedom,'' she added in a telephone interview. ``There was nothing unusual about this paper.'' The AMA had no immediate comment, though sources close to the organization confirmed that the article was the reason for the firing because it appeared politically timed to coincide with Clinton's trial. AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FLYNT UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR FEDERAL CRIME: 18 U.S.C. ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/14/99 10:16:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Landmark president, Mark R. Levin, said, "We believe Larry Flynt and his private detective, Dan Moldea, are, and have been, attempting to corruptly influence the congressional impeachment process. They are apparently attempting to stop Republican members of Congress from criticizing during the impeachment-trial proceedings by threatening to disclose embarrassing personal information purchased by Flynt. This appears to violated federal law. The Criminal Division of the Justice Department has the duty, and the jurisdiction, to put an end to these coercive tactics." Landmark is a public interest law firm and ethics watchdog group with offices in Herndon, VA and Kansas City, MO. Copies of Landmark's complaint are available to the media upon request. Isn't Mark Levin that weird little guy with the whiney voice who himself seems to be trying to influence various areas of the government? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reno finds no wrongdoing by Gore aide
-Caveat Lector- Yes, and we're all terribly surprised at Ms. Reno's findings. Who would have guessed??? Barb At 12:37 PM 1/15/99 -0600, LM wrote: -Caveat Lector- [01/14] Reno finds no wrongdoing by former top Gore aide WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Attorney General Janet Reno said Thursday that no further investigation was required of criminal allegations involving Peter Knight, a former top aide to Vice President Al Gore. Refusing to move toward an independent counsel probe, Reno ended a 30-day review into whether Knight, who managed the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign, helped another Gore friend get favorable terms on a government lease and lied about it. The allegations involving Knight, who is expected to play a key role in Gore's 2000 presidential bid, were sent to the Justice Department by a congressional committee last month. Reno said in a statement that she concluded that she does not possess ``specific and credible information'' that Knight, who is covered by the independent counsel law, ``may have violated federal criminal law.'' She said there was ``no basis'' to begin a preliminary investigation into the allegations. The House Commerce Committee alleged that Knight helped Tennessee businessman and real estate developer Franklin Haney get the favorable terms on the lease and that in return Haney contributed $280,000 to the Democrats. The committee also alleged that Knight, a former chief of staff to Gore, lied to it about a $1 million fee Haney paid him. Reno twice late last year refused to seek an independent counsel to investigate Gore on campaign-related questions. In December, Reno decided against an independent counsel to investigate President Clinton and Gore over political ads financed by the Democratic Party during the 1996 election. In late November, Reno decided not to seek an independent counsel to investigate whether Gore lied to FBI agents about telephone fund-raising calls from his office during the 1996 presidential election campaign. Haney faces charges brought by a Justice Department task force investigating campaign finance abuses that he made nearly $80,000 in illegal contributions to Clinton's reelection effort and to two other candidates from Tennessee. The House Commerce Committee investigated financial and political ties between Haney and top Democratic officials, including Knight, over the lease of the Portals building in Washington, D.C. It is scheduled to become the Federal Communications Commission's new headquarters. The panel questioned whether $1 million payments to Knight and former Tennessee senator Jim Sasser were illegal contingency fees and whether they used their political influence to gain a government lease. Last Updated: 01/14/99 19:28 EST Copyright 1998 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication and redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. http://legalnews.findlaw.com/news/19990114/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 9:37:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahhh...but he hasn't admitted that..you see they didn't have sexual relations...he wasn't having any with her, she was having relations with him. I have to agree with him. He wasn't having sexual relations and neither was she. There was a sex act. I'm sorry, but sexual relations, it's not. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Calif.: $10 MM Fluoridation Grant
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 11:03:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grant To Help Fluoridate Water - (SACRAMENTO) -- An endowment supported by the dental community has donated ten-Million-dollars to help California cities add fluoride to their water supplies. The grant from the California Endowment will help buy equipment and materials for cities that plan to fluoridate their drinking water. State health officials say only 17-percent of the state's drinking water is fluoridated to protect citizens from tooth decay. Good luck. We've managed to keep it out of here, but it's like a half-witted cousin. It seems to intrude again, just when you thought you had it locked out. The last time, they even wanted to put fluoride into bottled water. They're going to get us whether we want it or not. I think dentists should all drink a cup of fluoride every morning and leave the rest of us alone. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 3:57:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Contacted by CNNS, Mr. Skolnick further noted that the striped-sleeve style of judicial robe was *de rigueur* in Nazi Germany. I've decided to accept this one. Rhenquist does strike one as a bit dictatorial, and so very, very conservative he approaches Fascism. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Rehnquist's stripes are old news - he added them long before this impeachment business even began. Barb At 02:57 PM 1/15/99 -0600, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- STRIPED SLEEVES MEAN IMPEACHMENT IS MILITARY? = (CNNS, 01/15/99) -- Those are not just striped sleeves Chief Judge William Rehnquist is wearing as he presides over the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. Those are GOLD-striped sleeves. An article in the New York Times (Electronic Edition) dated Jan. 15, 1999, describes Judge Rehnquist specifically as "resplendent in his black gown with four gold stripes on each sleeve." A commentary in the New York Post, by Steve Dunleavy, also sees gold, but Dunleavy describes "three gold stripes on his robe." ["We Could Witness A Total Travesty If Republicans Fold," by Steve Dunleavy. NYPost, 1/15/99] There is disagreement between the NYTimes and NYPost as to whether there are 3 or 4 stripes, but both agree that those are gold stripes Judge Rehnquist is wearing. Why the sudden new fashion in judicial wear?Rehnquist reportedly says he copied the gold-striped style "after seeing a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta." [Dunleavy. Op. cit.] Is Judge Rehnquist's explanation believable? That a scholarly jurist, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, approaches the somber and serious business of presiding over the impeachment trial of a U.S. President with such a flippant attitude? One of the most serious proceedings, if not THE most serious proceeding, over which Rehnquist is ever to preside, and he is so humorous, light-hearted and cavalier that he copies his style of robe from a Gilbert Sullivan operetta? CNNS does not believe Rehnquist's explanation as to why he is suddenly wearing gold-stripes on his judicial robe. And since Rehnquist's Gilbert Sullivan story is implausible and therefore a cover story, and hides whatever the REAL reason is for the sudden change in judicial wardrobe, then what is it that Rehnquist's cover story is meant to hide? -+- A Rosetta Stone -+- Rehnquist's gold stripes are a Rosetta Stone, unlocking many mysteries. If Rehnquist is wearing 4 gold stripes on each sleeve, then according to "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) those 4 gold stripes are equivalent to the rank of Full Admiral in the U.S. Navy. A researcher has published to a conspiracy research mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) what he has uncovered as to the possible significance of Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeves. He writes, in part, that There has been some discussion among law researchers that indicates that the gold fringe on the US flag indicates martial law rule. If you recall the old westerns when the US cavalry showed up they all had gold braids on the trumpet, flag, and on the shoulders. We know for certain that they were under martial law, for the federal government was governing the territories directly previous to them entering as states. -+- The Military Connection -+- In Edward Gibbon's great book, "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," the author repeatedly describes how, with the accession of each new Roman Emperor, a pre-requisite was, often, approval by the military. Following the death of Constantine, for example, "a loud and unanimous declaration was procured from the troops that they would suffer none except the sons of their lamented monarch to reign over the Roman empire." Military support was crucial; without it, the Caesars could not rule. As the Roman Empire decayed over the centuries, military support became increasingly necessary and support from the Roman senate was no longer very important. Over several years, Sherman Skolnick, chairman of the Chicago-based public interest research group, Citizens' Committee To Clean Up The Courts, has reported on attempts by U.S. military brass to arrest their Commander-in-Chief, Bill Clinton, under provisions of the U.S. Military Code of Justice.Does Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeve robe suggest that something like a military arrest or military trial has occurred or is occurring? Or is the new-style judicial robe merely a symbolic message from the military, warning Clinton of their power? Contacted by CNNS, Mr. Skolnick further noted that the striped-sleeve style of judicial robe was *de rigueur* in Nazi Germany. -+- The Intelligence Connection -+- Heading the team of prosecutors conducting the impeachment trial is Congressman Henry Hyde. Mr. Skolnick has repeatedly reported that Hyde oversees the CIA "Black Budget," highly-classified accounts of how CIA spends its money. Hyde also, according to Skolnick, is a retired Naval Reserve Commander. So with Chief Prosecutor Hyde, we have another murky figure
Re: [CTRL] MICROSOFT AND THE BAVARIAN ILLUMINATI
-Caveat Lector- Does anyone want to buy some fresh Snake Oil, too? Laura AKA The Pied Piper p.s. - just my "Personal" opinion. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reno finds no wrongdoing by Gore aide
-Caveat Lector- With her public homosexual escapades and the ease that they can probably get the "H" prostitutes to tell talk about black mail. Wonder if there is anything that Reno does that is not dictated to her previously? That makes me wonder - those White House Aides had parents. Wonder if any of there parents or sponsors are such that they have "MORALS" such as Clinton and Reno have shown. Could be there are many more out there that have been PAID by Clinton (in favors) for his liking of group sex that are not telling. We have been speculating about what this is covering up. How about a combination of Genocide and Corruption? Laura AKA The Pied Piper -Original Message- From: Barb Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Reno finds no wrongdoing by Gore aide -Caveat Lector- Yes, and we're all terribly surprised at Ms. Reno's findings. Who would have guessed??? Barb At 12:37 PM 1/15/99 -0600, LM wrote: -Caveat Lector- [01/14] Reno finds no wrongdoing by former top Gore aide WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Attorney General Janet Reno said Thursday that no further investigation was required of criminal allegations involving Peter Knight, a former top aide to Vice President Al Gore. Refusing to move toward an independent counsel probe, Reno ended a 30-day review into whether Knight, who managed the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign, helped another Gore friend get favorable terms on a government lease and lied about it. The allegations involving Knight, who is expected to play a key role in Gore's 2000 presidential bid, were sent to the Justice Department by a congressional committee last month. Reno said in a statement that she concluded that she does not possess ``specific and credible information'' that Knight, who is covered by the independent counsel law, ``may have violated federal criminal law.'' She said there was ``no basis'' to begin a preliminary investigation into the allegations. The House Commerce Committee alleged that Knight helped Tennessee businessman and real estate developer Franklin Haney get the favorable terms on the lease and that in return Haney contributed $280,000 to the Democrats. The committee also alleged that Knight, a former chief of staff to Gore, lied to it about a $1 million fee Haney paid him. Reno twice late last year refused to seek an independent counsel to investigate Gore on campaign-related questions. In December, Reno decided against an independent counsel to investigate President Clinton and Gore over political ads financed by the Democratic Party during the 1996 election. In late November, Reno decided not to seek an independent counsel to investigate whether Gore lied to FBI agents about telephone fund-raising calls from his office during the 1996 presidential election campaign. Haney faces charges brought by a Justice Department task force investigating campaign finance abuses that he made nearly $80,000 in illegal contributions to Clinton's reelection effort and to two other candidates from Tennessee. The House Commerce Committee investigated financial and political ties between Haney and top Democratic officials, including Knight, over the lease of the Portals building in Washington, D.C. It is scheduled to become the Federal Communications Commission's new headquarters. The panel questioned whether $1 million payments to Knight and former Tennessee senator Jim Sasser were illegal contingency fees and whether they used their political influence to gain a government lease. Last Updated: 01/14/99 19:28 EST Copyright 1998 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication and redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. http://legalnews.findlaw.com/news/19990114/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory
Re: [CTRL] Reno finds no wrongdoing by Gore aide
-Caveat Lector- Let's not forget the Bush family! Daddy SR "possible" pedophile leanings. Wonder what it was like for his sons to grow up with him as their dad. Talk about the skeletons that are coming out of the closet at high levels. I guess it is nothing new (now) look at the current past "14 Nations Bust Up Pedophile / Black Mass ring" they were able to link it back to the US but it seems as if that was as far as it was able to go. -Original Message- From: Barb Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Reno finds no wrongdoing by Gore aide DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Deep Vince Foster
-Caveat Lector- Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the NSA, and Banking Transactions Spying, Part I by J. Orlin Grabbe On April 17, 1995, James R. Norman, Senior Editor at Forbes Magazine, sent the following letter to Michael D. McCurry, Press Secretary at the White house: "Dear Mr. McCurry: "Forbes Magazine is preparing an article for immediate publication. We would like to offer the White House an opportunity to comment on the following assertions. "1.) That Vincent W. Foster, while White House Deputy Counsel, maintained a Swiss bank account. "2.) That funds were paid into that account by a foreign government, specifically the State of Israel. "3.) That shortly before his death and coincident with the onset of severe and acute depression, Vincent Foster learned he was under investigation by the CIA for espionage. "4.) That this information was made available to him by Hillary Rodham Clinton. "5.) That while he was White House Deputy Counsel and for many years prior, Vincent Foster had been a behind-the- scenes control person on behalf of the National Security Agency for Systematics, a bank data processing company integrally involved in a highly secret intelligence effort to monitor world bank transactions. "6.) That Systematics was also involved in "laundering" funds from covert operations, including drug and arms sales related to activities in and around Mena, Ark. "7.) That through Systematics' relationship with E-Systems, Vincent Foster may have had access to highly sensitive code, encryption and data security information of strategic importance. "8.) That both prior to and after his death, documents relating to Systematics were removed from Vincent Foster's office in the White House. "9.) That the meeting at the Cardozo (Landau) estate on the eastern shore of Maryland on the weekend before Vincent Foster's death was attended by, among others, George Stephanopolous. "10.) That Hillary Rodham Clinton was also a beneficiary of funds from Foster's Swiss account. "Thank you very much for your prompt attention to this matter. Please fax your written response before end-of-business Tuesday, April 18, to Forbes at 212-620-2417. If you have questions, please call me at 212-620-2215. "Respectfully yours, "James R. Norman, Senior Editor" The White House did not respond until April 25, 1995. However, on April 20, 1995, a copy of this letter was leaked by White House counsel to Mark H. Tuohey III, an assistant to Kenneth Starr, a prosecutor leading an "independent" investigation of events related to Whitewater. Why was the letter forward to a Starr assistant? Did the White House have reason to believe that the death of Vincent Foster was related to Whitewater? Was the letter forwarded to Mark Tuohey so that he could investigate and comment on the allegations in the letter? Or was the letter leaked to Mark Tuohey by the White House because Tuohey is the White House point man for spin control with respect to any evidence "uncovered" by the investigation? On April 25, 1995, Michael D. McCurry replied as follows: "Dear Mr. Norman "This letter responds to your April 17, 1995 request. "The allegations contained in your request are outrageous. Publication of these false allegations will discredit *Forbes*, maliciously tarnish the reputation of Vincent Foster, and cause great pain to Mr. Foster's wife and family. "Should *Forbes* insist on publishing these baseless allegations, we insist that the Editor of *Forbes* have a pre- publication meeting with Jane Sherburne of the White House Counsel's Office and the personal representative of the President and First Lady, David E. Kendall of Williams Connolly. Ms. Sherburne can be reached at (202) 456-5116 and Mr. Kendall's number is (202) 434-5145. "Sincerely, "Michael D. McCurry "Press Secretary" "cc: Mr. James W. Michaels Editor, *Forbes* Mr. Lawrence Minard Managing Editor, *Forbes* Mr. William Baldwin Executive Editor, *Forbes* " DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Rehnquist's stripes are old news - he added them long before this impeachment business even began. Barb Is there some way you can verify that? You may, for all I know, be correct, but it would help me a lot if you could provide some source for what you say. Thank you. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS Here's a link to NPRs' realaudio archives of their Tuesday evening report on the robe. http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1999/990112.atc.html The Robe -- Noah talks to John Perrine, a baritone with the Victorian Lyric Opera Company in Rockville, Maryland. Perrine talks about Gilbert and Sullivan and Chief Justice William Rehnquist. In 1994, Perrine played the role of the Lord Chancellor in "Iolanthe" on a night when Rehnquist was in the audience. Afterwards, the Chief Justice had the gold-striped Lord Chancellor's robe copied. Perrine also performed in "Patience" in 1986, when Rehnquist had a walk-on part. (Note: The Victorian Lyric Opera Company is performing "Princess Ida" by Gilbert and Sullivan weekdays from February 17 through March 7. For more information, contact 301-879-0220.) (3:00) -- At first there was nothing. Then God said 'Let there be light!' Then there was still nothing. But you could see it. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Agent Smiley wrote: Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the only thing Clinton admitted to lying about the fact that he had sex with Monica Lewinsky? It doesn't matter WHAT he lied about, what matters is that he gave perjured testimony to the Paula Jones grand jury...if their case was so 'in the bag' as the author claims the timetable put it, then why did Klinton have to lie to them? He could have just 'taken the Fifth' when asked about Lewinsky, and trusted to his lawyers dropping the 'timetable bombshell' in the event the Paula Jones case went to trial... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Linda Minor wrote: The point so many people seem to be missing No, most of us aren't 'missing' it, we recognize that it's not relevant. is that this whole scandal started with a lawsuit brought by a woman whose credibility is severely in question, at a time when the law was not even clear whether a civil lawsuit could be brought against a sitting president. So, you damn your own case. IF there was this supposed 'timetable bombshell' which would absolutely 'prove' Paula Jones' credibility was questionable, then why did Klinton lie to the grand jury? Why not just take the Fifth and trust to 'the bombshell' proving how incredible Jones' was? Clearly, lawyers--including friends and associates of Kenneth Starr--approached Ms. Jones with offers to take her case and somehow come up with money for her living expenses in order to argue the position that a president can be sued during his term. Even if true, totally irrelevant. Suppose for a moment that she lied about what happened. Suppose also that the lawyers were acting on behalf of politically motivated individuals who hate Clinton for political reasons only--because his policies hurt their pocketbooks, for example. Suppose these same people knew Monica's proclivities and Bill's weakness and set up a scenario for him to fall into, while at the same time pushing the Jones case through the court so that depositions could be taken. Then they monitored Monica's reports through agents Tripp and Goldberg, making sure any available evidence (like the dress) is preserved. Suppose, suppose, suppose...all your suppositions are totally irrelevant. Suppose this...suppose we had an HONEST man in the office of the presidency who didn't need a staff devoted to 'bimbo control' (where there's smoke, there's fire)...suppose we had a man in office who RESPECTED that office, and didn't use the taxpayers' funded House for sexcapades with his employees...suppose we had a President who knew, understood, and HONORED the Constitution and the rule of law, and would never dream of committing perjury, and obstructing justice... No, I guess you Klintonistas CAN'T, can you? June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- At 07:23 PM 1/15/99 -0500, Brian Redman wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Rehnquist's stripes are old news - he added them long before this impeachment business even began. Barb Is there some way you can verify that? You may, for all I know, be correct, but it would help me a lot if you could provide some source for what you say. Thank you. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS Sure, Rehnquist's imperial robes initially caused a stir when he showed up in his stripes at Clinton's1995 State of the Union Address, which was televised. There is also a Time article in the 2/6/95 issue which references Rehnquist's getup. Barb DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- On 13 Jan 99, , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious. Do you think the liberal left would mind some conservative dude said he would put up 1 million dollars for information about the Democrats and their sex lives? The answer is a resounding YES. The liberals and the left would squall their heads off. We would hear weeks of tales and stories about how the right has gone off the deep end blah blah blah. Naturally the liberal left doesn't mind when its pointed to the right. As for "family values" we should remember that Clinton/Gore who got on the "family values" platform in 1992 and 1996 when they were reelected. I think we've already been through this--with millions and millions of dollars of Scaiffe money--not to mention 40 million dollars of taxpayer money. All these millions have been directed at digging up dirt on Clinton. While more and more American children are growing up in povertyand more and more working American families have no health care. Just like the good ol' 50s, except now it takes two or three working adults to provide a non-living wage. So what's Larry Flynt's paltry million dollar offer. Not even an equal shot. I'm getting concerned that this list is leaning so heavily to the right. And I hear that David Duke--the Grand Old Wizard--will be running for Congress, too. Wouldn't it be weird if it turned out that Charley Manson was right--even if his timing was off by a decade or two. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: ANTI-CLINTON ADS KNOCK BROADCASTER OFF-AIR
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Dr. Jai Maharaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,alt.impeach.clinton,alt.politi cs.usa.congress,soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.news-media Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 2:54 AM Subject: ANTI-CLINTON ADS KNOCK BROADCASTER OFF-AIR ANTI-CLINTON ADS KNOCK BROADCASTER OFF-AIR CNS January 15, 1999 (CNS) While President Bill Clinton awaits the outcome of a Senate impeachment trial originally spawned by a "he-said, she-said" lawsuit, a San Diego broadcaster is involved in a "he-said, he- said" standoff with a local television station owner. Roger Hedgcock, a talk radio host on KOGO radio and a commentator for KUSI television, has been relieved of his TV duties following a Tuesday broadcast in which he promoted an anti-Clinton advertising campaign. Hedgcock told CNS that KUSI informed him Wednesday evening that he was "suspended until further notice," because of his TV commentary about the "Dear Mr. President" radio campaign, in which children read imaginary letters to Clinton seeking his advice on how to get out of trouble for lying. The ads have been running this week in Washington, D.C. and New York City, and the ad's producer, San Diego songwriter Steve Vaus, has been trying to raise money to run the ads in other cities across the country. "Along with Gingrich and Livingston, I've now lost my job for advocating that Clinton lose his," said Hedgcock, who's done commentary for KUSI since the mid-1990s and been a top-rated San Diego broadcaster for 13 years. According to Hedgcock, KUSI was uncomfortable with his idea of doing a commentary about Vaus and his commercials, and the TV station suggested he instead do a segment on pornography publisher Larry Flynt and his quest for sexual information on Republican Members of Congress. But Hedgcock did the segment on Vaus Tuesday and was taken off the air at KUSI. The following day, Hedgcock went on his radio show to talk about the TV station's move, and asked listeners to call KUSI to complain, a move Hedgcock said led to a telephone call from KUSI interim news director Greg Rawdin. "He said 'you're suspended until further notice,'" Hedgcock told CNS. "He said 'we don't want you talking about this o the radio.'" When contacted by CNS, Rawdin refused to comment about his conversation with Hedgcock, but KUSI owner Mike McKinnon denied that he or Rawdin tried to muzzle Hedgcock on his radio show. McKinnon disputed other aspects of Hedgcock's account of the situation as well, telling CNS that the broadcaster was put "on hiatus" because he aired a commentary without prior station approval. McKinnon also said Hedgcock wasn't telling the truth about the circumstances surrounding his absence from KUSI's airwaves. "Roger's talking about Clinton lying - he'd better watch his own act," said McKinnon. "We just told him that it wasn't in the guidelines that we agreed to, and that we weren't going to let him do it until we talked about it. This came out of the dark. He blindsided us on this show," said McKinnon. McKinnon told CNS that Hedgcock will remain off-the-air at KUSI "until Roger decides to live up to his contract." Hedgcock's TV report included an appeal for contributions to help pay for airing the radio commercials, which McKinnon said ran afoul of KUSI's policy regarding use of the airwaves for certain causes. "We're not the fundraising effort for some individual to raise money for some political campaign," said McKinnon. Hedgcock told CNS that the TV station does hold some sway over his commentaries, but said that it wasn't an issue in this instance. "Under the contract, they retain a right not to air those they don't like. They've never done that," said Hedgcock. "They didn't say 'no, don't do it,' they said 'well, how about this Larry Flynt- Bob Barr thing.'" Hedgcock was referring to Flynt's release this week of information alleging that Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA) had not been faithful to his wife in a previous marriage. Barr is one of the 13 House managers prosecuting the impeachment of Clinton in his Senate trial. After disputing Hedgcock's account of the situation, McKinnon went on to accuse Hedgcock of harassing the TV station by asking his radio listeners to complain to KUSI about taking him off the air. "It's kind of a typical talk show deal," said McKinnon. "These guys get on the air and they try to harass people they don't agree with." "I think that's harassment. I think when he tells his viewers (sic) to call and tie up the phone lines, that's harassing the station," McKinnon told CNS. Neither Hedgcock nor McKinnon indicated that any discussions were planned that could resolve the situation between the broadcaster and the TV station, and whether Hedgcock is "on hiatus" or "suspended," either term appears to be in effect indefinitely. "Roger's the one who fired himself. I guess Roger's going to be the guy to deal with it," said
[CTRL] The Joshua Report #15
Vol I THE JOSHUA REPORT No. #15 "HILLARY bothers me a lot. I realized the other day that her thoughts sound a lot like KARL MARX. She hangs around a lot of MARXISTS. All her friends are MARXISTS." - CONGRESSMAN RICHARD ARMEY (R-TX) PART I of 4 HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON... UNELECTED Official or CIA APPOINTEE? [PORTRAIT OF THE RED QUEEN: DELILAH'S DAUGHTER?] I was thinking about something the other night, and I couldn't recall anybody else ever mentioning it: You know all those lovers Clinton's so famous for? The one thing they all seem to have in common [not counting Clinton, himself, of course] is that they all appear to be carbon copies of Hillary - EXCEPT FOR MONICA. Now, Monica's looks, build, personality and temperament remind me of a young Virginia Kelly - CLINTON'S MOM! [Have fun with that, all you new age psychologists. Lord knows, you certainly seem to have an awful lot of fun twisting every innocent and normal relationship we commoners have into something sick and criminal!] "But," as Sophia would say on GOLDEN GIRLS, "I digress." So, back to HILLARY. What a fascinating, and most unusual AMERICAN 'First Lady.' To get a better picture of her, let's go back to the beginning. Back to Park Ridge, Illinois. On second thought, let's go even farther back. All the way back to PA: "...Scrantonians dropped whatever names they could. (Incidentally, HILLARY's tough-minded father, HUGH RODHAM, also grew up there.) Local athletes who went on to even lackluster collegiate careers were treated as gods...When I was about nine, A FEW LOCAL BUSINESSMEN made the national news when they were apprehended meeting in a hilltop mansion in APALACHIN, just across the border in southern New York. Federal authorities said that this gathering of such fellows as New Jersey's VITO GENOVESE, Brooklyn's PAUL CASTELLANO, and our own RUSSELL BUFFALINO [sic] proved that the U.S. had an ORGANIZED CRIME SYNDICATE... "I hadn't thought about the APALACHIN MEETING until I opened my SUNDAY NEW YORK TIMES a few weeks ago and saw the headline and photo reproduced here. The accompanying article described how this JACKSON HOLE group, primarily sponsored by big insurance companies, hospitals, and pharmaceutical firms, had devised a plan called MANAGED COMPETITION [we normal mortals call it ORGANIZED CRIME - a favorite method of ROCKEFELLER and his cronies!] to 'help' HILLARY CLINTON reform health care...The TIMES neglected to mention that most of the institutions represented in the living room above coughed up between $33,000 and $100,000 each to take part in the potent brain trust. This group's big idea is to promise consumers some INITIAL choice of plans, but then, in order to maintain profits, SEVERELY RESTRICT the CARE we can receive when we get sick. A similar PROTECTION scheme was no doubt discussed in APALACHIN. "When the fifty or so 'businessmen' at the APALACHIN MEETING were apprehended (some tried to flee on foot through the woods), each one claimed that he'd heard that his friend, the owner of the mansion, was ill, and that he'd independently decided to visit the poor fellow that particular day...The MEDICAL SYNDICATE has offered us a clear picture. If we really want to enact health-care reform, we should lock up these JACKSON HOLE guys." [1] Did the apple fall far from the tree? We know that both CLINTONS have had a great deal of the documentation from their earlier life deleted, so not much is known about HILLARY's parents [only the "official" biographies]. What IS known, however, gives us an interesting vignette of a very UNUSUAL First Lady: "DOROTHY HOWELL [HILLARY'S MOTHER]...was born in 1919 into the blue-collar tenements of South Chicago, the daughter of a fireman and of a half-Canadian mother who was all but illiterate. Part of the vast migration of the era, the family moved to southern California, where Dorothy grew up in the sunlit, but bittersweet, promise of the Los Angeles basin. At high school in Alhambra, she was a member of the scholarship society, an admired athlete, and an energetic organizer of student activities...Intelligent and pretty, with a compelling smile and an abiding sense of independence..." [obviously HILLARY got a lot from her mom, wouldn't you say?] In 1937, at the age of 18, Dorothy moved back to Chicago and got a job with the COLUMBIA LACE COMPANY - where her future husband HUGH RODHAM worked. "Dorothy Howell was sadly ahead of her time, enjoying a brief relative independence during the depression and war years and ever after yearning for an equity and opportunity painfully denied in her married life...When Pearl Harbor came she was still a working girl, seeing Rodham but with hopes for higher education. She now put off college indefinitely, and they were finally married in 1942." [2] "[HUGH RODHAM] was seven years older and had been
[CTRL] Memetic Engineering [Conspiracy in Practice]
Title: Counter-Culture - New Science - Memetic Engineering Memetic Engineering Speak your mind in theCounter-Culture Forum Coined by zoologist Richard Dawkins in his controversial book 'TheSelfish Gene' (1975), the 'meme' is the study of ideas which replicate and transmit themselves via the human mind the way a virus does in a biological host.Important early scientific studies were conducted by Daniel C. Dennett and Douglas Hofstadter in the 1980s, before a climate of viral metaphors(Ebola, AIDS) and a rapidly growing hedonistic cyberculture helped popularize the memetics field in the 1990s. Memetic engineering developed from diverse influences, including cutting edge physics of consciousness and memetics research, chaos theory, semiotics, culture jamming, military information warfare, and the viral texts of iconoclasts William S. Burroughs, J.G. Ballard, and Genesis P-Orridge. The savvy memetic engineer is able to isolate, study, and subtly manipulate the underlying values systems, symbolic balance and primal atavisms that unconsciously influence the individual psyche and collective identity. A highly educated but susceptible intelligentsia, worldwide travel, and information vectors like the Internet and cable television means that hysterical epidemics and disinformation campaigns will become more common. This warfare will be conducted using aesthetics, symbols, and doctrines as camouflage that will ultimately influence our cultural meme pool. These contemporary 'life conditions' are explored in books like Carl Sagan's 'The Demon Haunted World', John Brockman's 'The Third Culture', and Michael Shermer's 'Why People Believe Weird Things.' Fictional descriptions of memetic engineering include Isaac Asimov's seminal 'Foundation' series, G.I. Gurdjieff's 'Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson', Neil Stephenson's 'Snow Crash', and Robert W. Chambers' unearthly 'The King In Yellow' tome. Political examples of memetic engineering include Adolf Hitler's 'Mein Kampf', Zhirinovksy's 'Black Book', and Muammar Quadaffi's 'Green Book.' Spiral Dynamics Mind-blowing site that combines Richard Dawkins' concept of the 'meme' with the optimal psychology of Mihalyi Csikzentmihalyi, and the pioneering 'Bio-Psycho-Social' framework of Clare W. Graves. 'Spiral Dynamics' differs from other memetics sites in being oriented towards open-ended evolving values systems. It reveals the hidden codes that shape human nature, create global diversities, and drive evolutionary change. The methodologies have been successfully applied in a wide variety of contexts, including transforming South Africa out of race categories, revitalizing local communities and sporting teams, and designing organizational and marketing systems for blue chip corporate firms and top-level government sectors. Mandatory reading if you want to actually be Asimov's Hari Seldon. Aaron Lynch's Thought Contagion Lynch is an ex-Fermilab physicist who has studied memetics full-time since1986. His landmark book 'Thought Contagion: How Belief Spreads Through Society' (1996) contained a wealth of scientific information. This site contains book excerpts, scientific papers, core mathematical data, and analyses of various thought contagion plagues. A growing wealth ofinformation for the specialist. Richard Brodie's Meme Central Brodie is an ex-Microsoft software developer who popularized memetic engineering with his populist book 'Virus of the Mind' (1996). This site contains book excerpts, de-programming advice, and links to the rapidly growing memetics community. A useful starting point for the memetic engineering newbie.
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Well now, calling someone a hypocrite is not name-calling, It is stating a fact. You seem to inordiantely involved in this debate. Any particular reason? No...except the name calling ends up in my mailbox..I do enjoy your other post, which you write with foresight and thought, so I start reading these name calling ones...which is aggravating, because it lessens my opinion of you in a way. I mean right after reading a great post of yours, which I enjoyed immensely...you lower yourself to this.IMHO If you think that it is proper to use the Lord's name in vain with a curse whilst making my opinion again you are sadly mistaken. That was an example...and I forgot to blank out another letter,,,and besides that I did not type it all out nor did I use a capital G which would denote our God. And as for your syntax advice, . . . . Many times my remarks have been followed by MHO, which stands for my humble opinion. NOT LATELY Hawk is a classic hypocrite. There is much written proof that Hawk is a hypocrite and truly don't feel that he has anything in mind but disruption of this list. But ya have to understand, we been disrupted by eruditer hypocrites than hawk. Why are you defending HawK's hypocrisy with your innanities about name-calling and such? I am not defending Hawk if you would notice...I should you how to use correct syntax if you so wanted to continue doing this..this way no one gets into any legal trouble. We have gotten off on a tangent here...with this name calling and would like to see your intelligent comments, which I so enjoy, with this topic and get back discussing facts. Oh and thanks for calling me stupid. Do you have documentation? I was giving examples...in all of my post I was calling anyone anything. Like I said after posting an example "After reading this thought I would let you know that, that was only an example..Iamnot calling Hawk. this name.Kris," AND VICE A VERSA. However now that I think of it..even though I did not call you stupid ...I said "it seems that you are acting quite stupid, to be doing this to your list. I knowyou payfor it, but you have to set standards..well you have but your not following them." A list owner usually set the tone of the list, at least in my observations. Like I said before, I do enjoy reading some of your other posts, but for some reason you don't seem to use this logic when addressing Hawk. I don't know why. Carlene it seems that you are acting quite stupid, to be doing this to your list. I know you pay for it, but you have to set standards..well you have but your not following them." Anyhow you catch the drift you got to use a word like seems, appears, looks like, or I think can help you call names in a more efficient manner... OkI will help Hawk out here..with his response to ignorant..when he uses the word stupid. He should be saying something like this..it seems...I think..in my opinion you are stupid because you are calling me names and not proving a G##-Dam% thing. Well that is what he could say if he uses those words. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Thanks Brian! That was a great post. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [CIA-DRUGS] cato - How Presidents Run the Country
-Caveat Lector- The U.S. Constitution is actually quite clear on the President's "power". "Executive orders" according to Constitutional Law would be binding ONLY within "the Federal Zone" (Wasington D.C., U.S. "possessions") and/or upon Federal Officers, Employers and Employees. The framers of the Constitution were poignantly aware of the axiom that absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they could hardly be said to have put together a document the defines the Executive branch's power "very generally" by anyone with the slightest shred of common sense and a little Constitutional scholarship. Any think tank that spit out such a concept should have it's thinker's license revoked. sarcasm A long revolutionary war against a tyrannical monarchy, and the Constitutional framers are going to create a document in which the Chief Executive officer's power is defined "very generally"?! Get a grip. Unfortunately, the Constitution is merely an interesting historical document according to today's courts, legislature, and executive. (and the Cato institute.) If the government could be forced to conform to the Constitution we could then be rid of the alphabet agencies. Not to mention the unconstitutional private national bank incorporated as the "Federal Reserve Bank" ... or the immortal form of the corporation, period... blantantly unconstitutional and certain to lead to where we are today, which is a place of an over-powerful unconstitutional Federal dictatorship tacitly coordinated by the corrupt judiciary, executive, and legislative branches. If the Federal government (spearheaded by the criminal indictment-ridden Executive branch) is successful in continuing to dismantle constitutional law as it is attempting to do in it's assault against the: 1st amendment in attempting to censor the press Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: She Who Remembers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 4:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] cato - How Presidents "Run the Country" From: She Who Remembers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:34:41 +0100 From: SheWhoRemembers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: SheWhoRemembers Subject: Executive Orders and National Emergencies: How Presidents Have Come to "Run the Country" by Usurping Legislative Power Content-Base: "http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-358es.html" Cato Policy Analysis No. 358October 28, 1999 Policy Analysis Executive Orders and National Emergencies: How Presidents Have Come to "Run the Country" by Usurping Legislative Power by William J. Olson and Alan Woll William J. Olson heads a McLean, Virginia, law firm (www.wjopc.com) that focuses on constitutional, administrative, and civil litigation. Alan Woll is an attorney in Blevins, Arkansas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). -- Executive Summary During the recent presidential scandals, concluding with the impeachment of President Clinton, many people were heard to say that the investigations should end so that the president could get back to the business of running the country. Under a constitution dedicated to individual liberty and limited governmentwhich divides, separates, and limits powerhow did we get to a point where so many Americans think of government as embodied in the president and then liken him to a man running a business? The answer rests in part with the growth of presidential rule through executive orders and national emergencies. Unfortunately, the Constitution defines presidential powers very generally; and nowhere does it define, much less limit, the power of a president to rule by executive orderexcept by reference to that general language and the larger structure and function of the Constitution. The issue is especially acute when presidents use executive orders to legislate, for then they usurp the powers of Congress or the states, raising fundamental concerns about the separation and division of powers. The problem of presidential usurpation of legislative power has been with us from the beginning, but it has grown exponentially with the expansion of government in the 20th century. In enacting program after program, Congress has delegated more and more power to the executive branch. Thus, Congress has not only failed to check but has actually abetted the expansion of presidential power. And the courts have been all but absent in restraining presidential lawmaking. Nevertheless, the courts have acted in two casesin 1952 and 1996laying down the principles of the matter; the nations governors have just forced President Clinton to rewrite a federalism executive order; and now there are two proposals in Congress that seek to limit presidential lawmaking. Those developments offer hope that constitutional limitsand the separation and division of powers, in particularmay eventually be restored. linkFull Text of Policy Analysis No.
[CTRL] Reefer madness exposed: Audubon Magazine on Hemp, Nov-Dec'99
-Caveat Lector- this article fairly comprehensively shows the political and economic forces behind the demonization of marijuana, as a tool for destroying the hemp industry which was at the time threatening the financial interests of rich and powerful oil and timber exploiters. The times they are a'changin' Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart Pubdate: Nov.-Dec. 1999 Source: Audubon Magazine Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright: (c) 1999 National Audubon Society Website: http://www.audubon.com Author: Ted Williams LEGALIZE IT! Cannabis sativa is a low-maintenance crop that can be used in paper, clothing, rope-even cars. So why, when it's grown in 32 other countries, is hemp still illegal in the United States? I confess that i am a user of hemp. for example, i have just quaffed a Hempen Ale and a Hempen Gold beer, shipped to me by Frederick Brewing Company of Frederick, Maryland. Both beverages are brewed with the seeds of hemp-Cannabis sativa-a plant native to central Asia and grown all over the world as various selected strains, some of which are known as marijuana. I'm feeling a faint buzz, but only from the alcohol. Neither brew contains any of the narcotic delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), which makes pot so popular. In fact, recent tests by the Pentagon invalidate what it calls the "Hempen Ale defense" by showing the ale to be THC-free. So military personnel can no longer claim it as the source of the THC that shows up in their urine. But some hemp products do contain trace amounts of THC-as intoxicating as, say, the opiates you get from a poppy-seed bagel-so to make sure it knows where the THC is coming from, the Air Force has banned all foods and beverages made with hemp. Somehow the news didn't make it to the Commander in Chief, who, less than a month later, on February 15, 1999, allowed Hempen Gold to be served on Air Force One. According to one reporter, the President "tasted but didn't swallow." After I finished ingesting hemp I slathered it on my hair-in the form of a shampoo made with hempseed oil, which, according to its producer, Alterna Applied Research Laboratories of Beverly Hills, California, restores dry and damaged (but unfortunately not missing) hair. While perky hair is not something I normally seek, the hair I have left definitely feels that way. What I have just indulged in-at least according to Glenn Levant, the nation's best-funded and most heeded marijuana educator-is an internal-external marijuana orgy. Levant is president and founder of Drug Abuse Resistance Education (DARE), a 16-year-old program taught by local police in 75 percent of the nation's schools. "Hemp is marijuana," he informed me, ending the interview when I cited sources that prove otherwise. Last year Levant was outraged to see Alterna's hemp-leaf logo on shampoo ads at bus stops around southern California, and he mounted a successful crusade to get them removed. "My big objection is that public property was being used to promote an illegal substance," he told the Los Angeles Times. "The shampoo is a subterfuge to promote marijuana." On July 1, 1999, he paid Alterna an undisclosed sum to settle a lawsuit it had filed against him for making what it called "false and malicious public comments" about its product and motives. Hemp and marijuana can cross-pollinate, but if one is the other, then a Pekinese is a Doberman pinscher. Plant a hemp seed, and no substance or force on earth can turn it into marijuana. If you smoke hemp, it will give you only a headache. This is because it doesn't contain enough THC to affect your brain. And, unlike marijuana, it is high in cannabidiol-an antipsychoactive compound that inhibits THC. Because of this, says David West, a plant breeder hired by the University of Hawaii to grow an experimental plot of hemp under special permit from the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), hemp "could be called antimarijuana." Hemp products are not illegal. In fact, the U.S. hemp-products industry does about $125 million in retail sales a year. Not only is hemp harmless, it has enormous versatility. Added to worthless fibers that are currently burned-such as straw from oats, rice, and wheat-hemp can produce superb paper and construction materials lighter and stronger than lumber. American cropland, 85 percent of which is stuck on a soil-depleting, chemical-dependent treadmill of corn, wheat, and soybean production, could be released and renewed if hemp were used as a rotation crop. In England and Hungary, hemp grown in rotation with wheat hiked the wheat harvest 20 percent. Hemp seeds, better tasting and more digestible than soy, could be rendered into hundreds of foods, thereby taking pressure off America's bottomland hardwood forests, which are being replaced with soybean plantations. Hemp fibers can be woven into cloth more durable than and as comfortable as cotton. Cotton is much more difficult to grow; it's addicted to chemical