[CTRL] (Fwd) Claremont Institute Precepts: Day of Deliverance

1999-07-03 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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""..Britain has been fill'd with Folly and America with
Wisdom, at least this is my judgment--time must determine.""

True now as then?  Given the state of affairs 'o'er there', it
seems PM Blair can't get enough of running one crisis after
another ...

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The Claremont Institute--PRECEPTS |
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July 2, 1999 Visit http://www.claremont.org |

 | No. 178

The fourth of July is our favorite holiday. It is a time
when all of us gather together under the warmth of the
California sun, to eat, drink and revel with our families.
We read patriotic speeches in honor of the men who signed
their names and pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred
honor to fight for freedom and equality before the law.

But there is another anniversary, overshadowed by the
events of the fourth, we would bring to your attention.
That is July 2, 1776, the day the Continental Congress
voted to declare independence and set in motion those
events we celebrate this weekend.

John Adams--whose role in setting those revolutionary
events in motion has abated in the public memory over time--
thought July 2 ought to be commemorated as America's "day
of deliverance" from the shackles of British tyranny.

Adams wrote two letters to his beloved wife, Abigail, the
day after the historic resolution to declare independence
and embark upon the greatest experiment in free government
the world has ever known. They are an inspiration. "Through
all the gloom," Adams wrote, "I can see the rays of light
and glory; I can see that the end is more than worth all
the means, and that posterity will triumph"

I invite you to read excerpts of Adams' letters below.

Sincerely,
Larry P. Arnn
President, The Claremont Institute


Philadelphia, July 3, 1776
Morning

..Yesterday the greatest question was decided, which ever
was debated in America, and a greater, perhaps, never was
or will be decided among Men. A resolution was passed
without one dissenting colony "that these United Colonies
are, and of right ought to be, free and independent states,
and as such they have, and of right ought to have, full
power to make war, conclude peace, establish commerce, and
to do all the other acts and things which other states may
rightfully do."

You will see in a few days a declaration setting forth the
causes which have impelled us to this mighty revolution and
the reasons which will justify it in the sight of God and
man. A plan of confederation will be taken up in a few
days

..Britain has been fill'd with Folly and America with
Wisdom, at least this is my judgment--time must determine.
It is the will of Heaven that the two countries should be
sundered forever. It may be the will of Heaven that America
shall suffer calamities still more wasting and distressing
yet more dreadful. If this is to be the case, it will have
this good effect, at least: it will inspire us with many
virtues, which we have not, and correct many errors,
follies, and vices, which threaten to disturb, dishonor,
and destroy us. The furnace of affliction produces
refinement, in states as well as individuals. And the new
governments we are assuming, in every part, will require a
purification from our vices and an augmentation of our
virtues or they will be no blessings. The people will have
unbounded power. And the people are extremely addicted to
corruption and venality, as well as the great. I am not
without apprehensions from this quarter, but I must submit
all my hopes and fears to an overruling Providence, in
which, unfashionable as the faith may be, I firmly
believe


Philadelphia, July 3, 1776
Evening

..The second day of July, 1776, will be a memorable epocha
in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will
be celebrated by succeeding generations, as the great
Anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the
day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God
Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp, shews,
games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations,
from one end of the continent to the other, from this time
forward forever.

You will think me transported with enthusiasm; but I am
not. I am well aware of the toil, and blood, and treasure,
that it will cost us to maintain this declaration, and
support and defend these states. Yet, through all the
gloom, I can see the rays of light and glory; I can see
that the end is more than worth all the means, and that
posterity will triumph, although you and I may rue, which I
hope we shall not.

John Adams


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[CTRL] George W.

1999-07-03 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From slate.com

""George W. Bush jokes that his father's idea of a perfect son
is Al Gore Jr.""


 strange bedfellow

 And So's Your Old Man: Why isn't George W. more like his dad?

 By David Plotz


 Stories about Republican President-designate George W. Bush
 invariably note that he has spent most of his life doing exactly
 what his father, former President George H.W. Bush, once did.
 This is not quite right. W. has spent most of his life doing
 exactly what his father did, but doing it worse. He is a chip off
 the old block, chipped.

 Poppy Bush starred at Andover. W. lazed his way through the prep
 school. The father motored through Yale in two and a half years,
 earning a Phi Beta Kappa key along the way. The son squeaked
 through old Eli. Poppy, like his own father Sen. Prescott Bush
 before him, captained the Yale baseball team and joined the
 secret society Skull  Bones. W. wasn't good enough to play ball
 for Yale. And though he joined Skull  Bones, he whiled away his
 nights with a much less refined group, the hard-drinking frat
 brothers of DKE.


 The elder Bush enlisted in the Navy in 1942, became the service's
 youngest fighter pilot, flew 58 missions in the South Pacific,
 was shot down over enemy waters, and won the Distinguished Flying
 Cross. The son also became a fighter pilot--for the Texas Air
 National Guard. He spent the Vietnam War flying "missions" over
 the Texas scrub.

 W. followed his father's path into the oil business. Both
 abandoned New England for West Texas to strike it rich. Both
 relied on rich friends for a head start, but whereas the old man
 scored in his oilfields, the son struggled. George H.W. ran for
 Congress and won. George W. ran for Congress and lost. Come
 middle age, the father threw himself into public service: U.N.
 ambassador, China ambassador, CIA director. The son threw himself
 into baseball, as an executive for the Texas Rangers.

 (Americans tend to forget the heroic life of President Bush. This
 was one of his unfortunate talents: He could make the
 extraordinary seem mundane.)

 There are competing theories about what the son's pale imitation
 of a resume signifies. The first, popular among Gov. Bush's fans,
 is that he's a late bloomer. It took him till his mid-40s to
 settle down, but now that he has he is making up for his lost
 years and surpassing the father he has so long trailed. After
 all, he has won a statewide race in Texas twice. Poppy lost both
 his statewide campaigns in Texas. Junior has already vanquished
 former Texas Gov. Ann Richards, the woman who ridiculed his
 father in 1988. Now he will topple Al Gore, half the team that
 battered Dad in 1992. The other, less charitable, theory surmises
 that just as W. has tried to equal his father and fallen short,
 so he'll find some way to choke in the presidential election.

 It's far too early to take sides on this question or to draw
 grand psychological conclusions about how the father will shadow
 the son's presidential campaign. But there is another way to look
 at W.'s knockoff resume: as a documentary of a generational
 change in American politics.

 Brookings Institution scholar Stephen Hess, author of America's
 Political Dynasties, notes that American political dynasties come
 in all sizes and flavors. In some, a family from humble origins
 uses political success to make itself rich and snooty. In some, a
 dynasty is stolidly consistent across generations. The Tafts of
 Ohio, for instance, have been steady Republican burghers for more
 than a century.

 The Bushes started as a noblesse oblige dynasty. Prescott Bush
 began his (forgettable) service as a senator only after a long
 career as a gentleman banker. He viewed his political activity as
 an obligation, and he instilled that sentiment in his son George.
 Poppy was dutiful in pursuit of office, compiling the requisite
 experience almost mechanically, adding line after line to his
 resume until America had no choice but to elect him president.
 Politics was always a duty, never a pleasure. (Remember the
 horror of hearing George Bush ingratiating himself with voters by
 calling them "my main man" and the like?)

 But what began as noblesse oblige has morphed into something
 different during this generation. The Bushes are a microcosm of
 the transformation of Republican politics from Northeastern
 elitism to Western populism. The son's failure to match his
 father reflects this small-D democratization. Bush the elder came
 of age when New England Republicans led the party, and patrician
 manners were boons to a Republican. But in an era when a
 politician's ability to communicate trumps anything else and the
 balance of Republican power has shifted west, the preppy,
 Anglican ethos that defined the old man is suspect. (George W.
 Bush spent his 1978 congressional campaign excusing his father's
 membership in the Trilateral Commission.) In today's politics,
 the son's checkered resume signifies 

[CTRL] From the FRY-ing Pan Into ...

1999-07-03 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From Irish Times

New challenges for Mr. Blair  Co ...


 Saturday, July 3, 1999

 Drumcree enshrouded in
 a ring of steel



 -
 --- By Chris Anderson, in Drumcree

 The fields around Drumcree Parish Church were transformed
 yesterday from a picturesque rural landscape into a scene
 reminiscent of a first World War battlefield.

 From shortly after 3 a.m., the RUC and British soldiers poured
 into the fields directly facing the Co Armagh church. Saxon
 armoured cars provided the vanguard of the security deployment,
 quickly followed by engineer units, complete with digging and
 ploughing equipment. These in turn were supported by RUC officers
 in full riot gear and soldiers in armoured Land-Rovers.

 Within minutes the roads leading to Drumcree were sealed and work
 began on the installation of the security measures.

 Army engineers ploughed a track as wide as a major road across
 the two fields which, in recent years, have been used by the
 Orangemen as rallying points. Behind this, soldiers using
 mechanical diggers widened and deepened the small stream which
 bisects the field pattern at Drumcree.

 The natural barrier was quickly transformed into a 400-yard-long
 ditch, measuring about 20 ft wide by 12 ft deep. Where the stream
 passed under the small bridge close on the road leading towards
 the Garvaghy Road, troops stacked sandbags, ensuring that a
 natural dam would be in place within hours.

 Behind the newly-dug ditch soldiers hammered innumerable metal
 posts into the ground in preparation for the construction of
 razor-wire entanglements, designed to prevent even the most
 foolhardy protester from gaining access to the prohibited parade
 route.

 An almost impregnable wire barrier was erected in front of the
 security force lines. Alongside this engineers constructed a
 15-ft high metal barrier which was placed across the road
 directly behind the bridge. When in place, it was quickly welded
 together and further sections of razor wire were secure in place
 at the top.

 As the work close to Drumcree continued, other army units were
 putting more security measures in place in Portadown itself.

 A temporary checkpoint, complete with massive concrete blocks and
 wire, sealed off the top end of the Garvaghy Road. Throughout the
 morning police monitored the flow of traffic and personnel in and
 out of the area.

 Nearby, St John's Catholic Church which faces the Drumcree parade
 route was also blocked off by concrete and wire defences. The
 wasteland skirting Catholic homes at Garvaghy Park, which runs
 close to the parade route, was being patrolled by army personnel
 behind the now predictable wire barriers.

 There were further security measures in place close to the
 loyalist Edgarstown estate. A permanent metal screen had been
 erected along a section of the Corcrain Road preventing clashes
 between Portadown's rival communities at what, in the past, has
 been a flashpoint area. Nearby Protestant children were busy
 building a "Twelfth" bonfire oblivious to the actions of the
 security forces.

 By mid-afternoon the security measures were almost complete and
 sections of Portadown were enshrouded in a ring of steel. The
 town now sits, tense and apprehensive, awaiting tomorrow's
 parade, which this year includes Protestant victims of the
 "Troubles", who are taking part in the Long March from Derry to
 Drumcree.


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[CTRL] (Fwd) Release: CAPS program

1999-07-03 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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New government computer may decide
you're a terrorist next time you fly

WASHINGTON, DC -- The FAA wants to let a computer decide if
you're a terrorist the next time you travel by plane -- a scheme that
could turn flying into a nightmare for thousands of innocent Americans, is
probably unconstitutional, and won't make the skies any safer, the
Libertarian Party warned today.

"Are you ready to fly the paranoid skies -- and let security
agents question you, inspect your luggage, and possibly strip-search
you if a government computer decides you fit the profile of a dangerous
terrorist?" asked Steve Dasbach, the party's national director.

"Unless we stop it in time, that's what could happen when the
government's new Computer Assisted Passenger Screening (CAPS) program goes
online."

Scheduled to be launched on January 1, 2000, the CAPS program will
use a computer program and information in the airlines' computerized
flight reservation system to identify possible "terrorists."

Although bureaucrats won't reveal the specific suspicious
characteristics they're looking for, experts speculate that traveling
alone, buying your ticket at the last minute, visiting unapproved foreign
countries, or frequent travel could get you tagged as a possible
terrorist. Passengers could also be picked at random.

If you fit the "terrorist profile," security agents could pull you
out of line, search your luggage, interrogate you about your travel plans,
tag your luggage with bright orange labels, or escort you onto the plane.
In a worst-case scenario, you could be x-rayed, strip-searched, or
subjected to a body cavity search.

"CAPS will turn air travel into computerized Russian roulette,
where a microchip will decide if security agents should detain or search
you," said Dasbach. "Last year, 50,892 airline passengers underwent some
kind of body search by airport personnel. You could be next -- even if you
are 100% innocent of any crime -- and their excuse will be: 'The computer
made me do it.' "

In anticipation of such computer-directed harassment, the ACLU has
already set up a special website to collect information about incidents of
mistreatment and discrimination by airport security personnel.

Because thousands of innocent Americans could be subjected to such
harrowing interrogations and searches, the CAPS program raises serious
Constitutional questions, said Dasbach.

"The Fourth Amendment guarantees protection against
unreasonable search and seizure," he noted. "There's no exception in
the Fourth Amendment that says: 'Unless a computer program thinks
you're guilty.' Innocent Americans shouldn't be treated like terrorists
because a computer chip doesn't like them."

Also, the CAPS program almost certainly won't save a single
life, because current airport security has been 100% effective in
stopping terrorist threats.

"Ironically, CAPS is being mandated at the same time the
government admits the danger of airline terrorist threats in the United
States is all but non-existent," said Dasbach.

In fact, over the past 20 years, a total of zero lives have
been lost on American soil because of airline terrorism, according to the
government -- and airline travel is officially 100 times safer than
driving.

Despite this, the Federal Aviation Administration has already
budgeted $157 million for the project, and is asking Congress for another
$100 million.

The decision to go ahead with the CAPS program was made by the
White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security following the
explosion of TWA flight 800 -- which later turned out to be a mechanical
malfunction.

"It's typical of the government: In order to solve a problem
that doesn't exist, politicians want to hijack your privacy, spend your
money, and strip you of your Constitutional rights," said Dasbach. "You
don't need a computer to figure out where the real threat to our security
comes from. It's the politicians who support this frightening
Spy-Before-You-Fly program."

On the positive side, the FAA is accepting public comments
about the CAPS program until 

[CTRL] Links in the Chain

1999-07-03 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Some of these are fairly long (or look like it) so links are
provided

http://www.spectator.org/799TAS/smoke799.htm

Start excerpt
 Kosovo's Hidden Costs
 While NATO bombs, Congress does the looting.

 by Linda Killian

 The war in the Balkans has been bad for a lot of people: the
 Serbs, the Kosovars, the Chinese diplomats killed in their
 Belgrade embassy, the NATO alliance, the American soldiers called
 upon to fight it, and especially the American taxpayers. It's
 even been bad for Bill Clinton, who would probably admit (if
 questioned privately and under the influence of a powerful truth
 serum) that the war hasn't exactly been the slam dunk he might
 have hoped for in reviving his presidency post-impeachment.
End excerpt

~~
http://www.usatoday.com/news/index/kosovo/koso1006.htm

 07/02/99- Updated 02:25 AM ET

 Numbers were best available, officials say

 By Steven Komarow, USA TODAY

 Many of the figures used by the Clinton administration and NATO
 to describe the wartime plight of Albanians in Kosovo now appear
 greatly exaggerated as allied forces take control of the
 province.
End excerpt

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http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/Print/0,3858,3879833,00.html

Begin excerpt

 Nato bombs put brake on hopes of car workers

 War turns Serbia's industrial powerhouse into smugglers' den
 Links, reports and background on Kosovo


 Rory Carroll in Kragujevac
 Friday July 2, 1999
 The Guardian

 While the west agonises over whether to help ordinary Serbs, and
 the Belgrade government pretends that reconstruction is storming
 ahead, employees of the once mighty Zastava factory get on with
 rebuilding their lives the only way they can: by smuggling.

 Mechanics, engineers and technicians who were praised for
 maintaining the economic flagship of pre-war Yugoslavia have
 joined the "ants" who risk prison by illegally importing
 cigarettes, alcohol and petrol from Hungary.
End excerpt

~~
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a377d47fa706c.htm

Begin excerpt

 Gangsters bring new terrors to heart of Kosovo
 By Julius Strauss in Pristina

 GANG rule on the streets of Pristina, the Kosovo capital, is
 becoming an increasing headache for British soldiers trying to
 restore peace.

 The United Nations has set up an office in Pristina that aims to
 rebuild civic institutions, and aggressive patrolling by Nato has
 prevented total anarchy. But the soldiers can do little to halt
 the activities of the violent underclass from Kosovo and Albania
 intent on profiting from the chaos.

 When the war ended nearly three weeks ago, the primary victims
 were Serb civilians and gipsies who stayed in the capital. Many
 of them have since fled and it is now the ethnic Albanians who
 are the targets of the thugs. Nato troops, spearheaded by the
 Parachute Regiment and Irish Guards, are hard-pressed to curb
 their activities. If they find no guns on them or no proof they
 have committed a crime, they must let them go.

End excerpt

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The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled
one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller,
   German Writer (1759-1805)
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It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that
prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell
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"Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart
information and ideas through any media and regardless
of frontiers."
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[CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentary July 3 Tim Wise

1999-07-03 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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(Mis) Remember When: Whiteness and the Recollection of History
By Tim Wise

For the writer, there's nothing so frustrating as to sit in front of a
keyboard and find oneself at a loss for words. To know there are a million
things which need saying, and yet, you can't think of even one. Having
experienced this often, I've devised a few strategies by which to allow
myself to remain productive.

Two which almost never fail, and about which I'm not at all proud, are to
turn on the television-preferably to an "all news" channel-or to get in
the car and drive. The former, because there is always something so
maddening being said that it would inspire even the least loquacious to
pour forth social commentary; and the latter, because one sees multiple
absurdities from a car window: folks in the throes of road rage,
attempting to position their cars at the front of the barely-moving
parking lot called traffic; or gas stations charging more for the same gas
in the poorest neighborhoods than only two miles away in the wealthiest.
Interesting, and all potential inspirations for the social critic.

And so last week, devoid of ideas, I began flipping channels; and just as
I thought I would never find anything to anger or amuse me enough to write
something unique, I stumbled across "Talk Back Live:" a CNN production, in
which the host asks questions of guests, interspersed with comments from
audience members, who sit in uncomfortable chairs, wearing large buttons
with their first names on them, in what appears to be the food court of an
Atlanta shopping mall.

There I was informed by the host, who was discussing the Kosovar refugee
crisis, that "We as Americans don't know how it feels to be driven from
our homes, to be refugees, and we shouldn't take that for granted." And
that was all it took. After all, when someone explains what "we" have or
have not experienced-particularly if that person is white-it's best to pay
close attention, and ask just who is this "we" anyway? Who comprises this
family to whom all of "us" theoretically belong?

Fact is, there are quite a few of "us" who need not be told to take
seriously the thought of being uprooted from our homes, nor lectured to
about ethnic cleansing. I'm thinking here of that part of "we" that is
black, and knows that their very presence here "as Americans" can be
explained by an act of forced removal; nor that part of "us" that is
indigenous Indian, and has known little else since the white man first
arrived; nor that part of "us" that is Chicano, and carries the collective
memory of the theft of a large portion of what was Mexico.

And for more recent variations on the theme, there's always "urban
renewal," which from the 1950's to the 1970's destroyed 20% of all urban
black housing to make way for shopping malls, office buildings and parking
lots; or "Operation Wetback," launched in 1954, under which nearly four
million Latinos-including American citizens-were deported to Mexico; or
the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II, which assuredly
involved removal from one's home on less than a voluntary basis; or Indian
"boarding schools," which took in Native children stripped from their
homes, so as to "Americanize" them and eliminate attachments to their
indigenous cultures.

Yes, I think some of "us" know about life as a refugee; what it's like to
be uprooted. But the ones who know aren't typically the ones writing copy
for CNN, or the history books, and so it goes. If there's a better example
of how history is written by the victors; or how the white perspective,
flowing as it does from white experience, is usually passed off as the
collective experience of all "American families," I, for one, would be
surprised.

Given which fact, it's fortunate I like surprises, for I was about to
receive one. No longer suffering writer's block, but rather, acid reflux,
I ran an errand-a short trip to the post office-where I glanced at the
commemorative stamp display above the counter. The Malcolm X stamp was
nowhere to be seen-it having been promoted less thoroughly than the last
Shaun Cassidy album-and in its place was the "1950's 

[CTRL] Freedom of Information

1999-07-03 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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 WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : Britain

 Britain's Freedom of Information Act — a charter for state
 secrecy

 By Jean Shaoul
 3 July 1999

 Back to screen version

 The introduction of “right to know” legislation was one of Prime
 Minister Tony Blair's key election promises. A Labour government
 would be open, accountable and transparent, he said. But the
 long-awaited draft Freedom of Information (FoI) Bill not only
 fails to fulfil this pledge, it is entirely retrogressive. The
 FoI bill strips the White Paper, published 18 months ago, of its
 few progressive features.

 The new draft bill creates a right of access to records,
 including personal files, held by public bodies and some private
 bodies carrying out public functions or contracts, inside a
 40-day period. But there is a long list of exemptions (22 to be
 precise). These include the secret services, international
 relations, law enforcement, internal policy advice—including
 background or factual documents prepared for central government,
 the privatised utilities, and the findings of health and safety
 investigations.

 In addition, information can be kept secret when its release
 “would prejudice the effective conduct of public affairs”, a
 clause which replaces the “substantial harm” proviso in the
 original draft. This formulation is so vague that it will make it
 far easier for the authorities to argue against disclosure. Such
 a claim will not be subject to judicial review by the courts. The
 current code of good practice devised by the Tory government
 states that information that could remain secret should be placed
 in the public domain if there is a strong public interest
 argument for doing so. Thus the new bill undermines existing
 provisions.

 The Freedom of Information Bill also means:

 * The government will be free to invoke “commercial
 confidentiality” to preserve its secrets.

 * Information whose disclosure is not itself harmful can be
 suppressed if, combined with any other confidential information,
 it would be “prejudicial”.

 * Government may withhold information on the basis of the
 (assumed) motives for the request, or if it is too costly to
 provide it.

 * Even when information is released, ministers may prohibit the
 recipient from publishing it. The bill also enables ministers to
 create new exemptions at short notice, by parliamentary order.

 * An Information Commissioner, with no power to override
 government refusals to disclose, will supervise the public's
 “rights”.

 Access to information from health and education services will be
 easier, and even actively encouraged. But in the context of
 government policies that are allowing such services to wither on
 the vine, this simply constitutes another means to legitimise the
 privatisation and/or closure of so-called “failing services”.

 It will be impossible to obtain a copy of a health-and-safety
 report carried out after a fatal accident at work, even if the
 employer's safety practices were found to be negligent. Food
 inspection reports will not be placed in the public domain,
 neither will the evidence submitted to government advisory
 committees that formulate policy on such matters as genetically
 modified foods. Corporations lobbied the government and won the
 right to keep virtually all commercial information out of the
 public domain.

 The US introduced a statutory right to access information in
 1966, and most western countries followed suit in the 1970s and
 early 1980s. Britain has lagged far behind the rest of the world.
 In Australia, most applications have been to see personal files.
 It has been difficult, if not downright impossible, to access
 other information, as successive governments have used their
 ministerial certificates and delaying tactics to block access.

 In the US, 50-60 percent of requests are from companies seeking
 information about their competitors. FoI legislation has spawned
 a huge private industry in government information. Companies have
 been set up which specialise in selling information or asking for
 data on behalf of companies or individuals who do not want to ask
 for it publicly themselves.

 However, the 1966 law did not give companies advance notice of
 the release of information or the right to object. Major
 corporations fought and won a series of high-profile court cases,
 and the government amended the legislation to provide
 corporations with “reverse FoI rights”. This is a vital weapon
 for corporations in strengthening their hand against consumers
 and downsizing government. British corporations are already
 complaining that such “reverse FoI” provisions are absent from
 the UK bill.

 Most commentators have put the British Bill's lack of progressive
 content down to government “obsession” with secrecy. But the
 government is not only shielding its own activities, it is also
 shielding the activities of big business.

 Not surprisingly, the bill says not one word about the 

[CTRL] FW: [SonsofLiberty] Fwd: URGENT! July 4th Massacre Threat

1999-07-03 Thread Peter L. Sroufe

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Bard

Visit me at:
The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government
http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm

Federal Government defined:
a benefit/subsidy protection racket!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 9:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SonsofLiberty] Fwd: URGENT! July 4th Massacre Threat


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subj:URGENT! July 4th Massacre Threat
Date:   7/2/99 10:36:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John DiNardo)

This is an urgent alert. It could turn out to be nothing, or it could result
in another Columbine-like mass shooting, planned to take place in less than
two days. I urge you to judge the dangers for yourself, and then act to
widely disseminate this report.

We now find that the Denver Post, in addition to the Sydney (Australia)
Morning Herald, has reported the threat of a massacre on this coming Fourth
of July, only hours from now, in Baltimore, Maryland.

Reading from http://www.denverpost.com/news/shot0420bb.htm   :
--
   THE DENVER POST
   ~~~

   Massacre At Columbine High 
    Killers Quickly Gain Internet Cult Access 


   By Susan Greene
   Denver Post Staff Writer
   April 20 --
   ...
   ..
   ..

   "In the same online discussion Tuesday night, Internet users referred
to another 'sacrifice,' supposedly scheduled for July 4 in Baltimore.

'DEATH AWAITS!' wrote user TCMJEFF ... 'stage is set.'"

   ..
(END OF EXCERPT FROM THE DENVER POST)
-
I wonder what he means by ... "stage is set" ?  Are there any Fourth of July
outdoor stage concerts scheduled for the Baltimore area?  Any such concerts
would probably climax with a fireworks show.

If another mass shooting is planned for political purposes by people in the
upper echelons of the intelligence/terrorist establishment, then they might
conceivably choose the Fourth of July as the day, and choose a crowded
fireworks show as the scene of their rampage. Since the article in the
Denver
Post, as well as the article from the Sydney (Australia) Morning Herald,
cited below, has revealed the threat of another massacre in Baltimore on the
Fourth of July, it doesn’t take much imagination to fill in the remaining
blank and surmise that their planned scene might well be a crowded fireworks
show, where darkness would veil the view of the assassins, and where the
booming and crackling of the aerial explosions would drown out the sound of
gunshots, especially if silencers are used.

The Waco massacre and the Oklahoma City bombing occurred on a day of pride
for those who cherish their freedom; it was April 19th, the day when
colonial
Americans fired "the shots heard around the world," at Lexington and
Concord.

Waco and Oklahoma City were designed to demoralize, discredit, and demonize
those who would stand up to the tyrannical New World Order, and make
freedom-loving patriots appear to be wanton butchers.  The Columbine gunmen
struck on Hitler’s birthday so that gun owners would appear to be of the
same
ilk as the gunmen; that is, neo-nazis. So you see, there is a clear pattern
here of calculated MASS psychology—brainwashing—wherein they associate
calendar dates with these ghastly atrocities in order to terrorize the
American People to the point where they will approve of the disarmament of
all Americans.

If they can pull off a massacre on the Fourth of July during a fireworks
show, they will succeed in driving the public much closer to the brink of
total civilian disarmament.  However, if you and I publicize this threat
that
has scarcely been reported, then maybe the light of public awareness will
cause them to abandon their plan.

John DiNardo

* John Quinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
*

SERIOUS TRENCHCOAT THREATS

Massacre Threatened July 4th in BALTIMORE!

(The following article and related information were brought to our attention
by
Bob Dobarganes: http://www.smh.com.au/news/9904/26/world/world8.html
*
THE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD
Monday, April 26, 1999

COLORADO MASSACRE

Internet threat: death on the Fourth of July

... police uncovered information on the Internet that the so-called
Trenchcoat Mafia (TCM) planned to strike again.

Police have discovered that several warnings and clues were posted on the
Internet and at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, that a
massacre
was imminent.

An anonymous Internet user claimed last week that another "sacrifice" was
planned in Baltimore, Maryland, for July 4. "Death awaits ... The stage is
set," wrote TCMJEF - believed to be "Trenchcoat Mafia Jefferson [County]".
...

[CTRL] IMPORTANT: Independence Day Facts

1999-07-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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If you missed a real one this year, see a virtual fire works
display at:

http://www.lafd.org/virtualfw.htm


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 13:48:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Happy 4th of July


Signers of the Declaration of Independence

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and
Tortured before they died.

Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another
had Two sons captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the
Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and
Their sacred honor.  What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.  Eleven were merchants,
nine Were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well
educated.

But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well
That the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader saw his
Ships swept from the seas by the British Navy.  He sold his home
and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to
Move his family almost constantly.  He served in the Congress
without pay, and his family was kept in hiding.  His possessions
were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall,
Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the
British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his
Headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open
fire.  The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed.  The enemy
Jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying.
Their 13 children fled for their lives.  His fields and his
gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in
forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his
children vanished.  A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and
a broken heart.

Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.

Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution.
These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians.  They were
soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but
they valued liberty more.

Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the
Support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection
of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our
lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

They gave you and me a free and independent America.  The history
Books never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary
War.  We didn't just fight the British.  We were British subjects
At that time and we fought our own government! Some of us take
these Liberties so much for granted... We shouldn't.

So, take a couple of minutes while enjoying your 4th of July
Holiday and silently thank these patriots.  It's not much to ask
for the price They paid...

This was sent to me by a friend and I add, think about whether or
not we would have the same chutzpah to stand up to our government
today to regain these rights that these men fought and paid a
high price or will we just sit back and let them continue to lead
us by the nose ring?

 A HREF="http://www.lafd.org/virtualfw.htm"LAFD - Virtual
Fireworks!/A http://www.lfd.ort/virtualfw.htm


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[CTRL] [2] Lost Men of American History - The Strange Battle of Lexington

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
Lost Men of American History
Stewart H. Holbrook(C)1946
The Macmillan Company
New York, NY
-
CHAPTER III

The Strange "Battle of Lexington

IN AN inspired moment Ralph Waldo Emerson termed it the Shot Heard Round the
World. He could also have called.. it, and with more accuracy, the triumph of
Sam Adams's brand of agitating, but that would hardly have been poetry. Old
Sam would not have cared, anyway, just so long as the shooting began. . . .

So, with mounted scouts well in advance, the British foot column moved
quietly and swiftly out of Boston, then
marched on through the night along the road to Lexington. In that hamlet,
meanwhile, Captain John Parker,. after consultation with Adams and John
Hancock, roused his drummer boy, William Diamond, and the two went to the
Green. The handsome village common was silent. All was still dark, and the
air was damp with morning mist, but the drumhead was taut and true and the
lad beat a long alarm roll that soon pounded into the ears of the sleeping
militia, the Minutemen.

Although they scarcely could have known that the day was to make them, alive
or dead, American heroes with few peers, the militia were fairly prompt. They
rolled out of their straw ticks, took  their muskets or fowling pieces, and
congregated at the Buckman tavern, which stood square across the road from
the Green. It was yet night, though the faint twilight of early morning was
beginning to show when the last 'man appeared. Parker put them into company
formation. They stood there a bit. Then Parker dismissed them, some going to
their homes, others to the tavern. Yet, a little later Parker assembled them
again. Why did he do so?

There are times when the narrative of history should be halted briefly to
consider, on the spot, so to speak, the actions and also the possible motives
of certain of the actors. The so-called Battle of Lexington is one such
moment, for it was one of the oddest moments in our history. For well over a
century a cloud of doubt has misted this minor yet celebrated action, and
little wonder.

Captain John Parker, he who called the Minutemen, dismissed, then
re-assembled them, was a soldier of considerable rough-and-tumble fighting
experience in the French and Indian War. The Green where he stationed his
handful of farmers was smack on the road down which the British must pass.
Hills and thick woods, ideal for observation, were hard by; or, they could
have served for ambush cover. Yet Parker chose the Green-open, level, and so
close that his men must almost be brushed by the passing regulars, who were
known to be on their way. Why did Parker pick this suicidal spot? It was
merely asking for trouble, he and his rustics, all armed, standing by the
wayside, inviting insult and molestation.

Was Captain Parker acting under orders, possibly orders from the Great
Agitator, Sam Adams? Adams, had been hiding in Lexington for days. He was the
dynamo that started the revolutionary idea and kept it in motion. He had ably
used the blood shed in King Street to rouse sluggards. He had diverted or
perverted every possible incident in a successful effort to inflame the
colonies. Now, on the 19th of April, 1775, did he feel it was time to draw
the British fire again, to make some more Patriot Martyrs?

Here on the Green was a scattering of farmers, commanded by an experienced
soldier who would be the last person, under ordinary circumstances and acting
under his own free will, to oppose a long column of professional troops with
a squad of rustics. Yet there he and they stood, looking squarely into the
face of death. They must have been powerfully urged, more likely ordered, to
take their impossible stand. Any old Indian fighter like Parker would
automatically have picked the nearby Woods.

On came the British, and Major Pitcairn of the column saw the assembled
Minutemen. He ordered them to disperse, calling them rebels, which they were.
They started at once to disperse. Pitcairn wished to surround them in order
to take away their arms. Killing, even wounding one of them was his last
thought. But as the militia were dispersing, Pitcairn saw the flash of a pan
from behind a fence. Another flash. Pitcairn's horse was hit, and it reared,
throwing the Major to the ground.

 Now the British began firing--without orders, Pitcairn always
maintained--and Americans fell on the Green. The "battle" of Lexington was
over, and without further ado the British column moved on toward Concord.

Let them move while we consider briefly the history of the history of the
affair on Lexington Green. I cannot name another incident which has undergone
so many mutations, and they are mutations, moreover, that can be accurately
measured. It all began, did this oddly changing history of the Battle of
Lexington, in 1824, almost fifty years afterward, when the Honorable Samuel
Hoar, in welcoming the Marquis de Lafayette on his visit to Concord,
Massachusetts, spoke of the Battle of 

Re: [CTRL] Should Guns should be banned for all Americans? [poll]

1999-07-03 Thread nessie

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Republicans trust the people;
Democrats trust government.

Fools trust politicians.

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[CTRL] Lost Men of American History - The Great Agitator

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
Lost Men of American History
Stewart H. Holbrook(C)1946
The Macmillan Company
New York, NY
-
CHAPTER II

The Great Agitator

IT WAS. commonly believed by boys and girls of past generations, and the
belief is still widespread and very deep --for such is the power of
accumulated indoctrination-that the American Revolution was caused chiefly by
a mob of Boston patriots who, for some vague reason having to do with taxes,
boarded a ship in the harbor and tossed into the sea countless chests of tea
belonging to nobody but George the Third of England, a bestial character
without parallel in all history. The king, not liking to have his tea
destroyed, thereupon hired a pack of mercenaries called Hessians, added
millions of his own redcoats--barbarous fellows to a man--" and sent the lot
of them over here to put the poor and honest colonists in their place.

The canon continues along the classic line, and most of us have come out of
our school days with the general impression that the Revolution was a
spontaneous uprising of embattled farmers, a sudden combustion of patriotism
and pitchforks, when every rustic became a Minute Man, every Minute Man a
hero (except notably Benedict Arnold), equal to six Hessian soldiers or ten
British redcoats, and who sprang to arms at the first alarm. ("If they mean
to have a war," said Captain John Parker, "then let it begin here." ) Not
only did they fairly leap for their muskets, but they continued to fight day
and night until the glorious Republic was an accomplished fact.

This pleasant imbecility, which I have enjoyed as much as the next man, has
been kept alive through a century and a half by poets, by historians,'
editorial writers, artists, and orators, much to the detriment of the United
States of America. It is the chief reason why our country has never yet gone
prepared into a war. And it was possible to impose the imbecility on us
because we Americans, as perhaps no other people on earth, much prefer
romantic fiction to fact.

Actually, the first certainty about the Revolution is that it was carefully
planned by a few shrewd men and carried out by homemade and talented and
ruthless agitators, whom historians have seen fit to call statesmen, and by
military leaders of little experience but of great adaptability. The second
certainty is that the great, mass of American  colonists were either passive
to the revolt, or actively opposed to it. John Adams, no man for
overstatement, estimated that throughout the war not more than one-third of
the colonists were heart-and-soul in the Revolution; and this number was
unquestionably much smaller previous to the Declaration. Hence, our glorious
revolt in the cause of pure Liberty was in reality a struggle, on the part of
a few able and active minds, to impose an idea on the mass of the people and
to make them fight and if necessary die for it; and finally to make Great
Britain recognize it as fact. This took, as they say, some doing.

The staging of "popular" revolts since the times of ancient  Greece has
always been accomplished by the use of propaganda in word and deed, sometimes
known in the trade as "agitating." The American colonies were fortunate in
having a number, of agitators fit to compare with the best in world history,
and the foremost of these Americans was Samuel Adams, a man who has been
ignored or cavalierly treated by too many writers. The reason for this
treatment, I suspect, probably stems from the typical American desire to have
America's hereos unadulterated, to ignore such realistic methods as Adams
propounded and used. This Adams, a poor relation of John and John Quincy and
the least known of the Historical Adamses, was the one who stopped at
nothing. Lies, subterfuge, misrepresentation of all sorts, and violation of
confidences were his common practice in anything dealing with the Crown, or
with Tories, or with anybody be said was a Tory. He would as lief slug,
figuratively of course, a man from behind as in front. No fencer saw and took
advantage of an opening, a dropped guard, more quickly. And when he thought
it necessary, Samuel Adams did not stop short of cold-blooded arrangements
for producing thoroughly dead Patriot Martyrs, a useful commodity in any
agitation program.

Son of a Boston family dating from Genesis, graduate of Harvard, where he
discovered that theology bored him,
Samuel Adams failed as a counting-room clerk, then ran his father's
prosperous brewing business into bankruptcy. He dabbled too much in politics
to run a business. With the help of his many friends in Boston's political
clubs he was elected to the General Court, as Massachusetts Bay Colony termed
its legislature; and then was made tax collector of the city, a job he
permitted to get out of hand to the amount of five thousand pounds and which
brought him no end of embarrassment. Meanwhile, however, he absorbed many
ideas of government from local politicians, especially from the tragic and

[CTRL] [1] Hitler's Priestess Ñ Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism -repost

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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An excerpt from:
Hitler's Priestess — Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism
Nicholas Goodricke-Clarke©1998
New York University Press
www.nyupress.nyu.edu
ISBN 0-8147-3110-4
-
Another fine one from, Mr. Goodricke-Clarke.  A sample.
Om
K
-


INTR0DUCTION

"Discovered Alive in India: Hitler's Guru!"

The young German sat on the threadbare sofa listening to the words of the old
woman before him. Through windows opening onto a balcony, shafts of
dust-flecked sunlight shone into the darkened space of her humble, spartanly
furnished room. Outside the strange, heady tumult of India resounded in the
full glare of the midday heat. All around he could hear the street sounds and
raucous, bustling squalor of this back alley in Delhi. Occasionally, her
narrative was interrupted by the songs of the exotic birds she kept in her
room and the young man was distracted by the sudden darting movement of the
many cats, her inseparable companions, that lay at her feet or dozed out on
the balcony in the warm air.

His attention fixed on the worn and crinkled face of the old woman as she
carefully chose her words to tell the story of her life. She was dressed in
the fashion of Indian women, wearing a loose white sari and a thin cotton
shift over her shoulders. Soft gray hair framed her high forehead and was
gathered behind her ears. While her brow was barely lined, her cheeks, chin,
and neck blurred in a mass of furrows and wrinkles. Her lips were thin, and
her mouth looked twisted, pointing downward at the right side. But it was her
eyes that held him. Her eyes burned with a strange luminous quality, the
light of inner vision and missionary zeal. But he also noticed that the left
eye stared with a pained expression, while the right appeared tired and
liquid, and he remembered with a start that she was now almost blind with
cataracts.

The old woman's name was Savitri Devi and the young man had traveled all the
way from Frankfurt to find her in this small bare room in old India and to
hear in her own words the story of her sacred mission for Hitler and Nazism.
This elderly and infirm prophetess of Aryan revival, a philosopher of
Hitler's cosmic purpose and Nazi pilgrim in the ruins of the German Reich at
the end of the Second World War, had lived for years in poverty and obscurity
in Calcutta and Delhi. Now in November :1978, at the end of a long life
devoted to the Aryan cause, she had found a new publisher. In late 1982 Ernst
Zundel, the founder-proprietor of the neo-Nazi Samisdat Publishers in
Toronto, publicized the availability of a set of five two-hour cassettes of
live interviews with Savitri Devi and a brandnew edition of her out-of-print
classic The Lightning and the Sun (1958). The notice was mailed worldwide on
card flyers and it is worth quoting in its breathless entirety:

THE HITLER CULT REVEALED. Discovered alive in India: Hitler's guru!
For serious students of the occult: You can now purchase the complete
set of tape cassette recorded, live interviews with Hitler guru Savitri Devi
at her home in India. Hear in her own words the narration of a prophetic
pilgrimage along the edge of the cosmic abyss. Watch the clouds of evil
scatter under the lightning of Cosmic Justice and the sun of Cosmic
Truth.

Read her shocking and most recently published manuscript, "The Lightning and
the Sun," which exposes the tangled roots of Nazism for all to see. Discover
through her the secret Nazi pyramid connection with Pharaoh Akhnaton and the
ancient cult of the sun. Learn the real significance of Genghis Khan's evil
role in history, his incredible significance in the present. Discover the
hidden springs of Hitler's manic will to power, his mystical bond with the
dark forces of time and destiny. Pursue the outlines of evil in its awesome
cosmic context.

Decipher now the encoded workings of the Nazi mind. Perceive how Hitler saw
the workings of the universe through: Human sacrifice. Vegetarianism.
Aryanism. The cyclic view of history. The children of violence. The will to
survive and to conquer. The seat of truth. Gods on earth. Kalki, the avenger.

Were ancient sanskrit laws of the universe compiled in the Bhagavad Gita the
secret source of Nazi strength? The amazing answers to these riddles are now
at hand. Read them in "The Lightning and the Sun," Hitler guru Savitri Devi's
huge, illustrated 448 page illumination of occult Nazi wisdom and prophecy.[1]

The Samisdat publicity was a resounding finale to a long and eventful life,
begun early in the century in the beautiful, old walled city of Lyons.

When I first read these lines on the card flyer, I knew very little of
Savitri Devi. But Samisdat Publishers was known to me as a far-right press
owned by Ernst Zundel, notorious for the publication in 1974 Of the first
English-language translation of The Auschwitz Lie, a short book that denied
the very fact of the Holocaust. However, the Samisdat catalogue mingled
efforts to glorify the Third 

[CTRL] [2]Hitler's Priestess Ñ Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

An excerpt from:
Hitler's Priestess — Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism
Nicholas Goodricke-Clarke©1998
New York University Press
www.nyupress.nyu.edu
ISBN 0-8147-3110-4
-
Another fine one from, Mr. Goodricke-Clarke.
Om
K
-

The new anthropogeny of the gifted white European races was complete by 1819,
when Friedrich Schlegel applied the term Aryan to this as yet anonymous
Indic-Nordic master race. The word had been derived from Herodotus's Arioi
(an early name for the Medes and Persians) and recently used by French and
German authors to designate these ancient peoples. However, Schlegel's new
usage caught on as he linked the root Ari with Ehre, the German word for
honor. Again, he was philologically quite correct because one also finds the
same root with a similar meaning in the Slav and Celtic languages. However,
the anthropological implications of the new word for the ancestral European
race were much more exciting and flattering: as Aryans, the Germans and their
ancient Indian ancestors were the people of honor, the aristocracy of the
various races of mankind. It should be noted that Friedrich Schlegel was
neither an extreme German nationalist nor an anti-Semite. He campaigned for
the emancipation of the Jews in Germany and married the daughter of the
distinguished Jewish philosopher Moses Mendelssohn. Nevertheless, his ideas
in due course stimulated the boldest ideas about Aryan supremacy among
German, French, and English scholars.

Throughout the first half of the nineteenth century famous and obscure German
philosophers and philologists alike worked tirelessly to develop and refine
the Aryan myth. Many more speculations were supplied by Julius von Klaproth
(who coined the term Indo-Germanic), Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, Jacob
Grimm, and Franz Bopp. In 1820 the geographer Karl Ritter described the
Indian armies breaking through to the West across the Caucasus. As the
originator of the famous dictionary, Grimm exercised a lasting influence on
literary and historical textbooks. He described the arrival of the Greeks,
Romans, Celts, and Germans in Europe in successive waves of immigration from
Asia. However, the Aryans were not yet set against the Jews in these
accounts. The outlines of the Aryan- Semitic dualism first became apparent in
1845, when Christian Lassen (1800-1876), the pupil and protege of the
Schlegel brothers, contrasted the Semites unfavorably with the Indo-Germans
as unharmonious, egotistical, and exclusive. His emphasis on biology, the
triumph of the strongest, the youthful and creative nature of the most recent
species, and the superiority of the whites provided the basic ingredients of
all subsequent thinking about the master race. Such notions were soon
combined with a virulent anti-Semitism by the famous composer and author
Richard Wagner (1813-1883), who enjoyed a fervent following in Germany and
Austria.[8]


Through the lectures and books of the great philologist Max Muller
(1823-1900) in Oxford and Ernest Renan (1823-1892) in France, the Aryan myth
had become established dogma throughout European learned society by about
1860. From this time on most educated Europeans came to know that the
European nations were of the Aryan race, which had come from the high
plateaus of Asia. The common ancestors of the Indians, Persians, Greeks,
Italians, Slavs, Germans, and Celts had dwelt in this region before migrating
across Asia and Europe to found their respective ethnic groups, which in due
course became the nations known to ancient and medieval history. The idea
that the Europeans had an origin distinct from the Jews was also implicit and
indeed survived any ensuing revisions of the Aryans' geographical origins.
Linguistics, anthropology, and biology had combined with the cultural and
political achievements of the European powers to underwrite their sense of
confidence as world leaders. They were all Aryans and the Aryans were the
superior race, the highest form of humanity.

pp.31-32
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Amen.
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[CTRL] OT: Cops On Uncontrolled Final (fwd)

1999-07-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 22:05:05 -0400
From: Billy Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Cops On Uncontrolled Final

  *I* find this to be just another data-point along the way.

Observe:

Newsgroups: rec.aviation.student
Subject: incident overheard with police helo
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 10:06:31 -0700

Yesterday while flying to an uncontrolled airport 20 miles from
me I overheard an interesting exchange on the radio.  10 miles
out I ask for a traffic advisory and hear that a state police
helicopter is downwind for landing.  A short time later he is on
base then final.  The next transmission is an elderly voice
announcing he is taking off the active runway and taxis into
position. Immediately the police helo announces a go-around and
screams at the offending airplane. "Get off the runway!"
repeatedly, with a sheepish response , "Okay".

The police helo then told the aircraft to taxi back to the runup
area and that they would like to "talk to him".  The a/c pilot
when asked then stated he didn't have his volume knob turned up.
It is a busy airport and there was a lot of activity there.
Needless to say the airspace was dead silent for awhile.  That
was the wrong helo to have a runway incursion with.  I know I
never want to get "pimp-slapped" like that on the airways. I
don't know what happened to the pilot but I'm sure he got an
earful.  I'd be interested in hearing about similiar experiences.
Not that I'm gender biased but I have seen many elderly pilots
who could barely climb the wing to check their tanks and you
wonder about the safety factor there.

/cite

rec.aviation.student is generally *not* a political
group.  This post, though, has racked up sixteen follow-ups,
which is remarkable, given the nature of the group.  A lot of
them address things actually topical to the group, but some of
them are (gingerly) pointing out the more pressing political
message here: the nature of today's cops.

What's happening here might be a bit opaque to some
people not interested in aviation or knowledgable of these
operations.  Briefly put: these cops have about as much authority
to order this person to taxi and hold for a "talk" as The Lying
Bastard does at holding forth on the sanctity of marriage, which
is to say: absolutely none at all.

...except for one thing: everyone with a brain in their
head knows just how difficult life can be at the hands of a cop
when he or she puts a mind to it.  The possibility has already
been observed that they could mount a short, sharp surveillance
op, watch out for a lane-change without a signal or something
equally innocuous, and then crank-up the entire machine at their
pleasure.

Yeah, I'm an "extremist": I maintain that only *fools*
believe in cops, anymore at all.

Every one of them should be taken with extreme suspicion
until their concerns for everything that a cop *should* be are
made clear beyond the least possible doubt of all the things that
far too many cops *are*, today. That might invite objection from
that vanishing species - the cop who is the "juridical man", in
Hannah Arendt's reference to officials who can think through
ethics on their own without resort to someone else's orders - but
that's just too bad.  If that sort is offended by the suspicion,
then I would suggest that they find a line of work that: A) does
not call for them to enforce incipient totalitarianism, and; B)
sets them at great distance from the sort which we all know
exists - the cop who loves his job, and does it the way Robert
McNamara  Co. prosecuted the Vietnam war, or worse.


Billy

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[CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)

1999-07-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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"We The People" are so ignorant it hurts.


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 22:59:37 -0400
From: Jay A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Press is more ethical and less biased ?



  Paulson says that in fact, the press is more ethical and less
biased than ever.


07/02/99- Updated 03:53 PM ET

Poll: Less support for freedom of the press

By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY

ARLINGTON, Va. - On the eve of the Fourth of July weekend, a new
nationwide opinion poll shows a sharp erosion of public support
for press freedom and an unchanged level of enthusiasm for
outlawing desecration of the American flag.

The poll, released Friday by the Freedom Forum, a pro-First
Amendment foundation, indicates that 53% of respondents think the
press has too much freedom in this country, up from 38% in 1997.

Seventy-four percent of respondents think people should not be
allowed to burn the American flag, but only 51% think the
Constitution should be

amended to prohibit it, up 2 percentage points from 1997.

The telephone poll of 1,001 adults in February and March has a
sampling error of +/- 3 percentage points.

According to the survey, nearly two-thirds of the public thinks
the press should not be allowed to probe the private lives of
public officials. And shrinking numbers of respondents think the
news media should be allowed to endorse political candidates,
report government secrets or use hidden cameras.

"Freedom of the press has been synonymous in the public's mind
for the last two years with Monica and Bill and Princess Di and
Marv Albert," says Ken Paulson of the Freedom Forum's First
Amendment Center. "It's time for the best qualities of American
journalism to come to the fore."

Paulson says that in fact, the press is more ethical and less
biased than ever. "There's a great disconnect here."

Media lawyer Bruce Sanford, author of Don't Shoot the Messenger,
a new book on public attitudes toward the media, says, "The
public is so angry at the media these days that we are beginning
to blind ourselves to the biggest threat, which is not the media
but government regulation."

The news media have brought much of the criticism on themselves,
conservative columnist Armstrong Williams says. "The face of
American journalism has changed from that of a stony-faced,
dispassionate anchor to two sides screaming at each other." He
said the press has lost its image as a champion of the people.

The poll found a few bright spots for the media, however. The
percentage of those who think that Internet speech enjoys the
same protection as the printed press went up from 56% two years
ago to 64%. Support for broadcast coverage of courts including
the Supreme Court also rose, compared with 1997.

On religious freedom, also guaranteed by the First Amendment,
nearly two-thirds of respondents said public school teachers
should be allowed to lead prayers in school.

Many people polled showed little knowledge about First Amendment
freedoms. Forty-nine percent could not name any of the rights
guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Once reminded that it protects freedom of the press, speech,
religion, assembly and petition, two-thirds of respondents said
the First Amendment does not go too far.

"A poll like this shows the worst of the problems of the First
Amendment," said Carole Shields of the liberal organization
People for the American Way. "But when people really consider
these issues, we come out OK."


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[CTRL] The Military's Guinea Pigs by Joseph Farah

1999-07-03 Thread Nicky Molloy

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The Military's Guinea Pigs by Joseph Farah




There was a more innocent time in this country when U.S. soldiers rolled up
their sleeves when they were told and took their medicine -- in the form of
all kinds of vaccines for who-knows-what.
Today, some 240 military service personnel are refusing to be inoculated
with the anthrax vaccine -- with good reason.

Approximately 100,000 Persian Gulf War veterans have become sick with a
still-unexplained syndrome many suspect has to do with vaccines they were
given and/or through possible exposure to chemical or biological weapons.
Since the Pentagon has been less than forthcoming in providing answers to
the victims and their families, it's more than understandable that there
would be a little suspicion about another vaccine of limited effectiveness.

Furthermore, this administration has gone out of its way to do anything and
everything it can to destroy the military its commander in chief once
candidly admitted he "loathed."

But there's a lot more to this picture -- a lot more.

It turns out the company with the sole contract for manufacturing the
anthrax vaccine is in deep financial trouble -- this after being provided
the taxpayer support to renovate its facility and after agreeing to a $29
million contract with the Defense Department. Now Bioport Corp. says it
can't meet its commitment to produce the vaccine for $3.50 a dose; instead,
it will need to be paid more like $10 a dose.

But it gets worse. Despite publicly minimizing the vaccine's risks, the
military is taking a different posture in protecting Bioport from any
liability. Last September, Army Secretary Louis Caldera agreed to accept the
burden of potential claims made against the vaccine manufacturer by service
members, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported this week. In doing so, he
wrote that the vaccine "involves unusually hazardous risks associated with
the potential for adverse reactions in some recipients and the possibility
that the desired immunological effect will not be obtained by all
recipients."

In the memo, Caldera also acknowledged just what those refusing to accept
the vaccine have been saying all along -- that there is little assurance it
will work against the forms of biological warfare likely to be employed by
enemies in the field.

The Defense Department is spinning this little development in Clintonesque
fashion, downplaying the agreement to take Bioport off the hook for any
defects in the vaccine.

"It's legalese," explains Army Col. Dick Bridges, a senior Defense
Department mouthpiece. "It's like the San Diego Union-Tribune buying libel
insurance. You don't expect to libel anyone, but you can't say it's never
going to happen."

Not quite a perfect analogy. Bioport is not buying insurance against
liability claims. It is being provided broad-brush protection against them
at taxpayer expense.

That raises the question of why. Who's behind Bioport? Why is the company
getting this kind of unusual protection and favored treatment from the
Pentagon?

It turns out the major force behind the company is Fuad El-Hibri, a German
citizen of Lebanese descent. How does a company whose principal is a foreign
national win a contract to produce such a militarily sensitive product?

Here's the answer: Just bring into your company Admiral William J. Crowe,
the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and give him -- that's
right, give him -- 22.5 percent ownership. Crowe invested not one penny of
his own money, according to his spokesman.

But it's amazing how much attention you can get at the Pentagon with such a
resume on your executive team. There's not a doubt in my mind it was well
worth the 22.5 percent share of the company to snag Crowe.

Doesn't this smack of insider wheeling and dealing? Bioport has had every
advantage imaginable handed to it -- from taxpayer subsidized renovations of
its plant to product liability underwritten 100 percent by the federal
government. And who benefits from it? A former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff. And even with all those advantages, Bioport still has its hand
out, threatening bankruptcy if it doesn't get three times its current price
for the product.

This is a shady deal. And I don't blame the 240 service personnel who have
refused to be guinea pigs in this scam.

Soldiers are being asked to risk their health for a vaccine of questionable
effectiveness and safety. Why? Is it for political reasons? Is it for
reasons of greed? Is it some morbid desire to experiment with people's
lives? Or is it simply one more of this administration's strategies to
destroy the morale and spirit of the U.S. military?






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[CTRL] Fluoride

1999-07-03 Thread Steve Wingate

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--- Forwarded Message Follows ---
Date sent:  Fri, 02 Jul 1999 18:47:43 -0700
From:   David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Fluoride

Post Number 91: Fluoride; another view
Of all of the health issues facing Americans, this is probably one of the
most inane.  It is nearly beyond my comprehension that people do not
understand what it means when a so-called government has the power to
decide if they should be medicinally treated, or not.  For those “in the
fight” to keep the “governments” hands off of herbs and natural
treatments, welcome to reality.  If the government can mandate fluoridated
water, you have already lost the fight, and it is simply a matter of time
until “they” decide how best to “acclimate” the majority into the view
that it is being done “for your own good.”

But there is much more to this story than simply the issue of whether the
“government” has the “right” to decide if you are to be treated (think of
everything else that implies!).  There is also the issue of fluoride
itself, and this is not a pretty story.  For those who are confused, and
actually “believe” that there has ever been any debate about how safe OR
effective fluoride is, welcome to reality.  What you are about to read has
been known and understood by those whose agenda it is to weaken
America
from the very first.  The problem is that most Americans have no clue as
to just how twisted, perverted and absolutely evil the men to whom they
have entrusted their nation are. David

http://www.trufax.org/fluoride/ment.html
Mental Fluorosis: Brain Damage from Fluorides
Courtesy of Sarasota ECO Report Guy Alland, Publisher
P.O. Box 35500
Sarasota, FL 34242
(941) 9251946

Mental Fluorosis: Brain Damage from Exposure to Fluorides
(environmental retardation)George Glasser
"Those who are for and against fluoridation have little common ground
other than issues they disagree on. They cannot dialogue objectively
because they have different realities. They see things differently, and
have different criteria in determining validity. Our lives are enriched by
artists for whom "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." But our lives are
often endangered when scientific truth is in the eye of the beholder."
(Dr. Schatz, discoverer of streptomycin)

Only now are the insidious facts about Sarin (nerve gas) surfacing as more
comes out about the "Gulf War Syndrome" and the Tokyo subway incident.
It
appears that with both incidents, the people exposed to Sarin are
suffering with variety of chronic adverse health and lingering neurotoxic
effects such as memory loss.,

Sarin is the most potent neurotoxic substance known. Sarin is also a
fluorinated organophosphate similar to, but more toxic to humans than the
insecticide, Parathion. Sarin is the prime example of toxicokinetics of
the fluoride ion, when the fluoride ion is combined with relatively benign
substances, it often creates a powerful toxicant (toxic synergism). With
Sarin, the fluoride ion is like an arming mechanism for the relatively
benign organophosphate which transforms it into a compound with one
hell-of-a-wallop.

Acute exposure to Sarin, a drop, about the size of a grain of sand,
causes spasms (tetany), heart palpitations (cardiac arrhythmia), many
other neurological disorders, and possibly, collapse of the nervous system
and death. Production of acetylcholine, the most important chemical for
nervous system function is disrupted. Acetylcholine is responsible for
carrying all neuro-transmissions in the brain and throughout the nervous
system of the body.

Many animal studies of fluorinated organophosphates also suggest a
delayed neurotoxic reaction similar to those experiences by those people
exposed to Sarin.

With water fluoridation, the public is exposed to a variety of
fluorides, and aside from the fluoride ion, some of those fluorides are
neurotoxic. Many scientists discount the fluoride ion as being neurotoxic;
however, the weight of scientific evidence strongly indicates that the
fluoride ion is, if nothing else, the perpetrator. This is evidenced by
the variety of highly effective fluorinated drugs that are used to treat
mental disorders, and the fluoride ion's role in the devastating
effectiveness of Sarin as a chemical nerve agent.,

Many psychoactive drugs are fluorinated. Two of the most noted are
Rohypnol (the infamous date-rape drug, "Roofies") and Prozac. Rohypnol is
fluorinated Valium, which is about 20-30 times more potent than Valium
alone. Essentially, these drugs effect enzyme functions in certain areas
of the brain to achieve the desired effect. The primary ingredients of
most psychoactive drugs suppress enzyme production, and the fluoride ion
is also an enzyme inhibitor. The one particular side effect common to
almost all fluorinated drugs which is mentioned in the Physician's Desk
Reference is memory loss. These drugs include 

[CTRL] SOON: The Phoenix no longer endangered....

1999-07-03 Thread Tsadowq

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Fellow Lollards:

The following story is about the bald eagle being removed from
the endagered species list. What is remarkable about the article,
may be found within Clinton's few but purposely chosen words.

BEGIN CLINTON QUOTE:

``It's hard to think of a better way to celebrate the birth of a nation than
to celebrate the rebirth of our national symbol,'' the president said on
the eve of the Independence Day weekend. ``The return of the bald
eagle is a fitting cap to a century of environmental stewardship.''

END QUOTE

The entire story is below, but make note of Clinton's comments.

The birth of the nation, is the birth of Bacon's New Atlantis.

The REbirth of this nation's symbol (bald eagle = PHOENIX),
is Clinton's special little way of speaking the Brotherhood's
language-- regarding the Phoenix rising from the ashes.

His next comment mentioned that this event (the rebirth of
the Phoenix symbolized by the rebirth of the bald eagle),
was "a fitting cap" to a century of earth stewardship.

By now, we should already know, that through the space
shuttle program, N.A.S.A. has been used to give us a
message regarding the Brotherhood's Agenda:

1) Columbia
2) Enterprise
3) Endeavor
4) Discovery
5) Atlantis
6) Challenger

"A ColumbiaN Enterprise to Endeavor for the Discovery
of Atlantis; all ChallengerS will be destroyed."

With that in mind, it is notable that Clinton's remarks were
made in the presence of a captive, and tamed "Challenger".

Velly Interestingk
Tsadowq

x

Bald Eagle Soon Off Endangered List

.c The Associated Press

 By LAWRENCE L. KNUTSON

WASHINGTON (AP) - The American bald eagle, the living symbol of the
nation since 1782, is back from the brink of extinction and can now be
removed from the endangered species list, President Clinton said today.

Celebrating a three-decade struggle to protect the bald eagle against
pesticides and encroachments on its habitat, Clinton announced
a process that is expected to remove the majestic bird from the
list by July 2000.

``It's hard to think of a better way to celebrate the birth of a nation than
to celebrate the rebirth of our national symbol,'' the president said on
the eve of the Independence Day weekend. ``The return of the bald
eagle is a fitting cap to a century of environmental stewardship.''

The president was joined on a flag-backed platform on the South Lawn
of the White House by a 10-year-old bald eagle named Challenger, who
flapped his long brown wings and cocked his snowcapped head.

Challenger was blown from a nest in the wild as an eaglet and experienced
too much human contact at a young age to be able to survive in the wild.
The bird screeched during the president's remarks.

``Believe it or not,'' Clinton said, ``Ben Franklin wanted our national
symbol
to be a turkey. The press would be having a field day with that to the
present
day, wouldn't they?''

With the banning of the pesticide DDT in 1972 and the passage of the
Endangered Species Act a year later, the bald eagle began making a
dramatic recovery. Today, there are 5,800 breeding pairs.

Four years ago, with recovery well under way, the eagle
was upgraded from endangered to threatened.

Removing the bald eagle from the government's endangered list will not
expose it to new dangers and its status will be closely monitored.

The eagle will continue to be protected, from hunting or capture by two
laws: the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, which prohibits the taking, killing,
possession, transportation and importation of migratory birds, and the
Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act, which bans the taking, possession,
transportation, export and import of a bald or golden eagle, alive or dead.
``Taking'' is defined as shooting, poisoning, molesting or harming the bird.

When the Continental Congress in 1782 placed the bald eagle in the center of
the Great Seal of the United States, an olive branch in one claw and 13
eagles in the other, there were as many as a half-million eagles in the skies
of North America.

By 1963, however, only 417 breeding pairs remained in the lower 48 states as
a result of hunting, loss of prey and habitat and the widespread use of the
DDT.

``Our majestic eagle was slipping toward extinction,'' the
president said. ``The eagle struggled barely to survive.''

The nation declared, Clinton said, ``that extinction is not an option - not
for the eagle, not for the other creatures put here by God.''

Clinton also used the ceremony to prod Congress to approve his Lands
Legacy initiative to provide permanent financing of at least $1 billion a
year to protect wildlife habitat, farms, urban parks and natural treasures
across America.

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Re: [CTRL] How the NWO could lose ...

1999-07-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Andrew Hennessey wrote:

 snip

 The evil slaves who have laboured to build the new world orders
 hierarchy to make a dark global empire coherent - being
 instantaneously replaced - effortlessly hand over the reigns of
 power to a benign planetary invasion -

 Well thinking about this makes me feel better than believing in
 reptilian doom

 . thats my story and I'm sticking to it !!

 Andrew Hennessey
 Transformation Studies Group
 Edinburgh   Scotland


Wouldn't that be great!

Sadly, it's probably a scenario more akin to "Divine"
intervention being our only salvation:

In what ever form this divine intervention might take (i.e., HE,
She, They, etc.), I am afraid the situation is hopeless without a
legitimate form of it.

As Norio Hyakawa so aptly puts it, our ONLY option at this late
date (i.e., this point in time being WAY, WAY PAST any realistic
hope of being able to stop "them"), is to make ourselves right
with our makers, whom ever or whatever you have chosen that to
be. . .and if you haven't chosen, you had better DO IT FAST.

You see, without this HOPE of superhuman intervention, there is
only the inevitable horror of what WILL soon be upon us ALL (even
Klinton...which, btw, DOES comfort me a tad:)

I have " faith" that a "Divine" reality exists (i.e., hope,
albeit not a lot).  I just pray that HE/They didn't just set us
into existence, meaning well at the time, and then SPLIT to more
promising projects!

On the other hand, could you really blame Them if They had, i.e.,
decided AGAINST "Project Humanity" after They saw the way we
could allow each other to suffer?

Well, . . .I gotta tell ya that knowing INTIMATELY how we are,
i.e., being one of us myself and all, I COULD NOT BLAME "THEM" IN
THE SLIGHTEST WAY for choosing to abort the project, other than
maybe for not putting us out of our misery long ago, like after
They lost faith in our _Humanity_, but BEFORE They departed.

After all, They HAD TO REALIZE that leaving us to our own doing,
knowing that our design was flawed, would lead to massive torment
and suffering?

"They" had to know that the way They had "messed us all up" would
most certainly be our end.  Hell, it was probably this rather
MONUMENTAL SCREW UP of somehow allowing us to possess a trait so
very counter productive to our very existence, this extremely
undesirable flaw inherent to our very genetic essence, that was
the reason they seemingly abandoned the project in the first
place.

An advanced "Creator" such as "They" HAD TO HAVE BEEN, would have
HAD TO HAVE KNOWN that we had next to zero chance at long term
survival and eventual integration into any interplanetary
federation.


I am, of course, referring to that "human flaw" in us that can
allow the NEEDLESS mass suffering of our fellow species, even
after KNOWING in our hearts, as well as logically, that such
greedy and idiotic behavior would almost surely eventually lead
to our species total extinction.


Certainly They HAD to have seen this!


They must have been with us long enough ("Garden of Eden?") to
have seen that this behavioral flaw in our make-up was SO STRONG
that even after we OURSELVES learned that such primitive self
survival instincts would destroy us, we STILL could not stop
hurting each other.


They had to know that we would continue anyway, knowing full well
that the vast majority of Their creation would suffer
horrendously along the way to our end.  And, that even though at
some later more advanced technological stage of our existence
when it would have been long known by us that this wholesale mass
suffering by way of each other was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY NEEDLESS,
that we would STILL continue with it, right up to our end.

They had to know that even when we were advanced enough to
understand that such selfish behavior is fine for an individual's
survival, but that as far as long term survival of THE SPECIES is
concerned, survival in which eventual emergence into a universe
TEEMING with life would require team work and love for each other
(if for no other reason than to demonstrate to those voting on
our incumbency into such an interplanetary society would vote to
the affirmative), that even then, we would be incapable of
modifying this behavior. . .NOT EVEN IF AND WHEN IT WOULD
INEVITABLY THREATEN OUR OWN TOTAL EXTINCTION (again, if not by
our own doing, then by some higher group determining that we can
not be trusted with membership into the "higher heavens").


Our glorious and loving Creators had to have seen that even
though They were successful in making us HIGHLY intelligent and
sentient, i.e., clearly able to understand all this, that They
made this "human flaw" of ours both SO STRONG and SO LONG LIVED,
that we would not ourselves EVER be able to temper or stop this
behavior, even though we knew that in continuing it "not only
will every one else die, but 'ME, MYSELF, and I' will TOO!"


They had to have seen that in giving us this trait, this trait

Re: [CTRL] Bush's Fund-Raising Opens Huge Disparity

1999-07-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 07/02/1999 9:00:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Your boy Clinton will do everything in his power to see
 that Bush is elected, just as Bush Sr. threw the election for Clinton, then
 never uttered a word during Clinton's administration.  Question now is will
 Bush continue the Socialist agenda to promote the Fascist takeover of the
 country, or will he just come out in the open with draconian measures to
 directly cancel freedoms we still have? 

Yes, you're right, because if Clinton isn't a closet Republican, he's the
next thing to it.  I'm sure he's working for the Bush election.  Now will
Bush continue to promote the Fascist takeover of the country?  You bet he
will.  It's been the Republican right-wing agenda all along, and Shrub is a
right-winger of the first water.  As the saying goes--he doesn't talk the
talk, but he sure walks the walk.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Fw: Crop Circle maker detected

1999-07-03 Thread Nicky Molloy

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-Original Message-
From: Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UFOTruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, 3 July 1999 2:18
Subject: Crop Circle "maker" detected


UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com

STRANGE LIGHT SAID TO CREATE CROP CIRCLES IN HOLLAND

A new report by noted journalist and investigator Linda Moulton Howe says
that a strange pink-purple light, observed by a young man in Holland, may
have been directly responsible for the formation of two crop circles found
near the man's home.
   Howe's information came from Nancy Talbott, research associate of
Dr.
W.C. Levengood, a world leader in the scientific analysis of crop circles.
   In an exclusive interview (summarized here with permission), Talbott
told Howe that the unusual events occurred just after midnight on June 7 in
the farming community of Hoeven in southern Holland. A 19-year old man
named
Robert awoke at 12:15 am with the feeling that he must go to the window.
From
there, he reportedly witnessed a "small, misty, pinkish-purple light -- not
a
sphere, more football shaped -- and a little bit smaller than a football"
moving above a huge field of grain.
   Talbott said that she knows Robert and his family, and knows that
Robert has had a history of seemingly psychic premonitions of strange
phenomena.
   Robert watched as the light moved across the field, about 10 or 12
feet off the ground. When it reached a spot about 50 meters behind his
house,
it stopped and spread out, becoming a thin disc perhaps 30 feet in
diameter.
Then he saw what appeared to be electrical discharges coming from beneath
the
pink-purple disc of light. This lasted about 7 to 10 seconds, and then the
light dissipated and disappeared.
   Talbott says Robert immediately threw on some clothes and ran into
the
field, where he found a 30-foot-diameter crop circle at the exact spot.
Another circle about 10 feet in diameter was close by. Neither one had been
in the field a few hours earlier.
   Robert spent some moments in the circle and then went to wake his
family. Talbott says they were amazed not only by the circles but also by
the
fact that Robert felt a deep sense of joy and peace following these events.
Family members told Talbott that Robert had experienced illness and upset
after several previous unusual events.
   "I know this boy pretty well. I know his family pretty well. These
are
very straight, middleclass Dutch hard-working people. There is nothing
flamboyant, there is nothing foolish about these people at all," Talbott
told
Howe. "And they have questioned and questioned all this up until fairly
recently. And now they have just accepted that it's happening and are doing
their best to cope with whatever it means."
   For further details on this story, visit Linda Howe's "Earthfiles"
website at http://earthfiles.com/earth038.html.


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[CTRL] Drug Economy controls U.S. now (repost)

1999-07-03 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 From:  www.copvcia.com

 Don't Blink!

 All Promises Broken - Volume II Hearings Held
 Without Notice - Behind Closed Doors

 You Might Miss What's Next

 by
 Michael C. Ruppert
 Posted June 29, 1999 - Copyright 1999 From The Wilderness,
 Michael C. Ruppert. All Rights Reserved

 On May 25, just four days after we published our last issue, under
 the totally misleading heading of "CIA and Drugs in Los Angeles"
 the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) held
 a closed door hearing.  It took us until June 22 to determine that
 the Committee heard testimony that day from Department of Justice
 Inspector General Michael Bromwich, who had not appeared before
 the Committee since the release of his report last year.  And it
 also heard from current CIA Inspector General Britt Snider, who
 discussed Volume II of retired CIA IG Fred Hitz's report on the
 whole Contra war -- not Los Angeles.  Los Angeles was Volume I.
 That's right -- They have had the hearing on Volume II.  They did
 it in secret.  The press did not cover it.  And it remains unclear,
 at this moment, as to whether HPSCI's final report will even be
 declassified or made available to the public in any form at all.
 This is not only a breach of every promise made to us in 1996 by
 both Houses; it is, in my opinion, a complete breach of trust
 between the government and the people.

 In a June 22 conversation with HPSCI Deputy Staff Director, Tim
 Sample, I was told that the Committee "would like to wrap this up
 this summer."  I was also told that the protocol for closing the
 investigation out had not been finalized.  It is "not known"
 whether there will be another hearing.  It is "not known" whether
 or if the Committee's final report will be declassified or ever
 released.  It is "not known" if any additional witnesses will be
 called.  I and retired DEA Agent Cele Castillo and presumably the
 other major figures in the investigation have all received letters
 asking us to submit whatever other evidence "we are aware of"
 before the Committee closes its work.

 This is a sign of true desperation as the Republican controlled
 Committee must absolutely close the issue -- to protect George W.
 Bush -- before the 2000 Presidential campaign begins in earnest in
 October.  It must also protect the biggest secret of all from the
 American people:  The entire economy, and the entire political
 system itself, is currently hooked and dependent upon - drug money.

 I have been saying for years that you could show a video of George
 Bush ordering drug runs, CIA agents laundering money and flying
 airplanes full of drugs and no one in power would do anything about
 it.  They would not be able to.  In this issue I will tell you,
 and the House, about something almost as damning -- a partially
 authenticated letter, written on CIA letterhead and stamped
 "Top Secret", ostensibly written and signed by CIA Director
 William J. Casey in late 1986, that admits to direct participation
 in the drug trade [SEE STORY THIS ISSUE].  I have been aware of the
 existence of this letter for approximately five months.  I have had
 it read to me in its entirety.  It was not until I was given this
 last chance by HPSCI to present "all of the information of which
 you are aware on the allegations" that I was able to obtain an "On
 the Record" statement about the letter from Attorney Ray Kohlman.
 The letter will be admitted into evidence in a new trial motion for
 former Green Beret William Tyree in the near future.  When that
 happens, From The Wilderness will publish the letter, both on the
 Internet and in the newsletter.

 Now that the House has indicated its intent to close the matter for
 good and all it is time to bring the letter forward -- for good and
 all.  I will also see to it that the letter is widely distributed
 enough so that any of the major news organizations will be able to
 follow up on it.  The information in this issue is enough for the
 House Intelligence Committee to go to the CIA and compel it to
 confirm or deny the letter's authenticity.

 Reading The Right Map

 If nothing happens with further hearings, or with the letter,
 I will tell you in advance exactly why.

 Contributing Editor Catherine Austin Fitts, who was a Managing
 Director at Dillon Read before becoming Assistant Secretary of
 Housing under George Bush and who holds an MBA from Wharton makes
 things very simple.  She points out that the four largest states
 for the importation of drugs are New York, Florida, Texas and
 California.  She then points out that the top four money laundering
 states in the U.S. (good for between 100 and 260 billion per year)
 are New York, Florida, Texas and California.  No surprise there.
 Then she rips the breath from your lungs by pointing out that 80
 per cent of all Presidential campaign funds come from -- New York,
 Florida, Texas and California.

 Civics test:  Who are the current governors of Texas and Florida?


Re: [CTRL] 7/4/1776 freedom proclaimed; 7/4/1999 control by thugs ...

1999-07-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 07/03/1999 1:59:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In reading over the following history lesson, which I received today in the
 email, I couldn't help but think of Americans today, who are afraid of
 risking the little that they have in order to save their nation from those
 who are destroying her. England never had in mind doing to us what our
 leaders are doing to us today. In 1776 England understood what the role of
 White men were in a White society. Our leaders do not have clue! They are
 intent on destroying our nation. And here we sit watching as if it were some
 ball game on television. Only in this game, there is no season next year to
 wait for. Either we win it, or we lose it, forever!

 Think about that as you read this very interesting
 Fourth of July "rest of the story." 

A special thanks for this posting.  I've forwarded it to my grandchildren.
It's wonderful to be able to show that at least our first leaders had both
courage and convictions.   Again thanks.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Freedom of Information

1999-07-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 07/03/1999 2:02:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  Britain's Freedom of Information Act — a charter for state
  secrecy
 
  By Jean Shaoul
  3 July 1999
 
  Back to screen version
 
  The introduction of “right to know” legislation was one of Prime
  Minister Tony Blair's key election promises. A Labour government
  would be open, accountable and transparent, he said. But the
  long-awaited draft Freedom of Information (FoI) Bill not only
  fails to fulfil this pledge, it is entirely retrogressive. The
  FoI bill strips the White Paper, published 18 months ago, of its
  few progressive features. 

Isn't it amazing?  And the whole thing is happening here as well.  We have
Representative Bliley of Virginia who has managed to rush through his bill
l790 and it is also senate bill 880.  I don't know if it's passed the senate
yet, but it probably has, and of course old Republican-issues-supporter Bill
Clinton will sign it into law, and it not only messes with the public's right
to know, but gives jail time to those responsible for letting them find out.
I just love to see us working along with other governments to insure that
freedoms of any kind are curtailed.  Happy Fourth of July.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)

1999-07-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 07/03/1999 3:41:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 According to the survey, nearly two-thirds of the public thinks
 the press should not be allowed to probe the private lives of
 public officials. And shrinking numbers of respondents think the
 news media should be allowed to endorse political candidates,
 report government secrets or use hidden cameras. 

I must belong to the other third.  I didn't think it was right for the press
to dig out every sex act that Clinton ever got a chance at, but now that they
have set the  precedent, I want them to continue.  I want to know everything
about everyone.  Until the Republicans told me (over, and over, and over, and
again over) how important it was that I know that any candidate for the
presidency of the United States had experience with illegal drugs, had a
mistress (how much he paid his mistress), what the mistress thought of him,
had sex outside of marriage, and if and how he might have been in the armed
services, I didn't realize how important it was that I have full detail on
these matters.  I want it all.  I want to know if he sassed a teacher in
fourth grade.   Let's see.  Now looking for ethics in the press is a really
tough job, but we do have Ivins and Hightower.   Prudy

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[CTRL] Poisonous jet contrails

1999-07-03 Thread Nicola Molloy

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harryo wrote:

 Poisonous Jet Contrails

 Subject: Art Bell Says Everybody Is Sick. Part 1. Feb. 10, 1999.

 Last night Art Bell, on his talk show that broadcasts on over 300 radio stations 
said that everybody he knows is sick and he didn¹t know what was making them sick. 
I¹ll now put down some information that that is so bad that if you are not sick 
already you may be sick after ready this. Incidentally I¹m not sick myself although 
some may question that statement. I know that in the past I have said that the 
contrails are made by jets that have a substance in their fuel that is making us 
sick. That may be still partially true. I then said that the government is spraying 
us with some substance that will immunize us against any attack that may come from 
terrorist who may try to kill us with Antharax. That may be true. I don¹t know what 
is really happening but that hasn¹t stopped me from saying what may be happening in 
the past. Here¹s the latest dope on the subject and I do claim to be the world¹s 
expert on putting out dope.

 From: S W
 Subject: U.S. Military Conducting TOXIC Biological-Chemical Warfare Against 
Civilians U.S. feds well on their way to reducing population to further New World 
Order goals! Dear Citizens, Patriots, and Veterans:
 For the past 3 weeks I have been receiving Þrst hand reports of U.S. Military jets 
spraying toxic substances over populated urban areas testing the effectiveness of 
their biological and chemical warfare protective suits and monitoring equipment. The 
substances are SUPPOSEDLY ³harmless² simulants which have extremely toxic effects of 
their own. To date, literally thousands of civilians have been made very sick mostly 
with respiratory illnesses and distress and even scores of deaths. The military has 
deceived the public and other authorities by saying that what they are spraying are 
harmless simulants while in actuality they are really conducting chemical and 
biological warfare with weapons of mass destruction under the guise of merely a 
³test.² Yes, a test, to see how many people will be made ill, contract respiratory 
diseases, and how many die. So, do you call that at ³test² or actual warfare? We do 
not have to wait any longer for Clinton to antagonize the Middle Eastern cou!
!
ntries
 to the point of them lashing out with international terrorists against U.S. cities 
and U.S. citizens, as Clinton is doing what he is told to do by the Insiders, the 
Elites, the bosses of the Illuminati and New World Order. As I posted to you all 
numerous times in the past, if Clinton can¹t get the Islamics to attack the U.S. then 
Clinton will just go ahead himself and do it. That is exactly what he is doing now. 
Citizens, Patriots, and Veterans, no need to wait for these NBC - Nuclear, 
Biological, and Chemical warfare attacks against us because they have been going on 
for quite some time now. Why? Because the New World Order¹s Elites¹ plan is to reduce 
the population of the world by 25% by the year 2000 (Y2K is truly an appropriate 
crisis), 50% by 2025, 75% shortly after that, and by 85% to 95% as a Þnal goal to 
leave only 200 million people alive world wide. Of course these surviving people will 
only be comprised of the Elites and their prison labor slaves incarcerated in C!
!
linton¹s
 Civilian Concentration Camps here in the U.S. and in other concentration camps 
around the world. Why? Because the Elites want to ³save² the world¹s natural 
resources for themselves. They don¹t want other people using them as they think our 
resources are running out when in actuality all we have to do is use our technology 
to use them more efÞciently and produce replaceable natural resources. Like why use 
up our Þnite petroleum resources when we can use bacteria and yeasts to grow on 
discarded organic matter to produce alcohol for fuels? England has had 6,000 deaths 
in the past two weeks from respiratory failure caused by this Military spraying 
currently. Please read the following post forwarded by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hammell) 
and by William Thomas regarding the information from Leanard Cole¹s ³Clouds of 
Secrecy: The Army¹s Germ-Warfare Tests Over Populated Areas,² by Leonard A. Cole ( 
http://amazon.com) and from numerous personal reports nationwide about the 
criss-cross spra!
!
ying by
 our U.S. Military. Please take care and prepare. The NBC attacks against U.S. 
Citizens are occurring NOW. USCMike1 DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS: BIOWAR PROVEN BEYOND 
ANY HADOW OF DOUBT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hammell) IAHF LIST: I have hesitated, until 
now, to forward this information about contrails, because it seemed just too bizarre 
and outrageous. But look at the information below from Christine Smith, Will Thomas, 
and Ian Goddard. Listen to the audio Þle of Will Thomas discussing this on the Art 
Bell Show, and read what Will has to say below. Read the testimony below of Dr. Cole 
from Rutgers University re Military Experiments involving 

[CTRL] Fish workers Blocked Orissa Assembly

1999-07-03 Thread U.P. Secr

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UPDATE FROM CHILIKA.

About 25000 fishermen and women blockaded the main approach road to the
Orissa state assembly house under the auspicious of Chilika Mastyajibi
Mahasangha  demanding immediate demolition of all prawn farms in Chilika
lake.  They demanded implementation of the supreme court judgement of 12th
December 1996 banning all aquaculture with in 1000 meters of the Chilika
lake and with in the coastal regulation zone, i.e 500 Mts. from the high
tide line along the coastline of the country.  the Orissa Assembly was
beginning its monsoon session today(July 2).  The blockade started at 11 am.
A delegation of fisherpeople held talks with the chief minister who
reassured the leaders that all kinds of aquaculture will be banned in
Chilika.  For this purpose a bill will be passed in the current session
of of the assembly.  The huge gathering continued till 5.00 PM and
dispersed after persuasion by the leaders of all opposition parties if
the state.
The meeting was presided over by the President of Chilika Matsyajibi
Mahasangha(CMM)  Shri. Raghunath Bala.
Among those who spoke on the occasion were Shri Harekrishna
Debnath(Chairperson National Fish workers Forum),
Shri Anadi Behra, secretary CMM, B.B Harichandan, Narasingha Mishra(state
MLA's), P.K Das, Abani kumar Baral, state secretary Communist party of
India.  shri Janardhan Pati state secretary Communist Party of India
(Marxist)  were  among the speakers.

K. ALAYA

( All Orissa Traditional Marine Fishery People Federation)


*
Thomas Xavier Kocherry
Co-ordinator,  World Forum of Fish-harvesters and Fishworkers  [WFF]
Co-ordinator, National Alliance of Peoples Movements (India), [NAPM]
Velankanny, Junction, Valiathura,  Thiruvananthapuram 695 008,  INDIA
Phone  Fax: +91 - 471 - 50 1376;
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[CTRL] Talk Show Host Blames Downfall on Chatroom Vixens

1999-07-03 Thread El Snatcher

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Talk Show Host Blames Downfall on Chatroom Vixens

Pigdog Journal (www.pigdog.org)
Jabber Streams

1999-07-02 19:48:05

By El Snatcher

A pornographic photo of wild Australian talk show host David Oates has
been making the rounds of the web. It has become the centerpiece in a
multimillion dollar law suit, and countersuit, between Art Bell and
Oates. The issue at hand is, how did this nasty photo get on the web
in the first place?
-more-

http://www.pigdog.org/auto/jabber_streams_Talk_Show_Host_Blames_Downfall_on_Chatroom_Vixens.html

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[CTRL] [Fwd: War News: Kosovo]

1999-07-03 Thread Nicola Molloy

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harryo wrote:

 RUSSIAN MILITARY ACCUSES USA OF TESTING NEW SECRET BOMB IN YUGOSLAVIA

 Russian military officials late on Monday night accused the United States
 of
 testing a new secret weapon in Yugoslavia -- a weapon that is somewhere
 between conventional and nuclear!

 "The United States is using Yugoslavia as a test range for its latest
 secret
 means of destruction," representatives of the Russian Defense ministry
 told
 reporters late Monday night.

 The Pentagon refused immediate comment.

 Russia claims that a bomb tested in Yugoslavia radically differs from
 conventional weapons. "It was created in Los Alamos and is aimed to
 destroy
 radio electronic equipment," the TASS newswire reported in Tuesday
 flashes.

 The military said that the bomb generates an electric impulse similar to
 electromagnetic fluctuations caused by a nuclear explosion.

 They added that the bombs are being carried by two strategic B-2 bombers
 of
 the Stealth technology. Russian military officials provided no other
 details.

 FOOTNOTE: This late night report from Russia's newswire service continues
 a
 strange trend that has developed in the past week. By night, the ITAR-TASS
 wire moves provocative scare stories -- many on Russian plans for military
 maneuvers. [On the first night of NATO bombings in Kosovo, TASS shocked
 with
 a report that Moscow was considering moving nuclear weapons to southern
 regions of Russia. Late night reports that Russian ships were maneuvering
 also created intrigue.] But during daylight hours in Moscow, TASS, the
 official state news agency for Russia, turns more diplomatic, most
 military
 talk vanishes. There appears to be two forces at work inside of the
 Kremlin,
 the main source for TASS military reports. A dark and cold-warlike force
 appears to be operating at night when Yelstin and his close advisers are
 sleeping. Due to expanding information technology, these provocative late
 night stories quickly move outside of Russia and instantly bounce
 throughout
 the world. In the morning, Yelstin and others rush news releases that
 completely counter the reports that surface on TASS at night. May the sun
 always rise.

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 when the need for illusion is deep.

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[CTRL] Drudge: FORMER U.S. OFFICIAL CHOSEN TO HEAD WORLD POLICE [ More] (fwd)

1999-07-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Not for Commercial Use


x x x x x


X DRUDGE REPORT X FRIDAY, JULY 02, 1999 18:22:45 ET X

FORMER U.S. OFFICIAL CHOSEN TO HEAD WORLD POLICE


A former U.S. law enforcement official on Friday was chosen
as the lead candidate to head Interpol, the global law enforcement
organization.

Ron Noble, former Treasury undersecretary for enforcement, was
named during an executive session at Interpol headquarters in
Lyon, France.

Noble, 42, best known as the chief investigator of the failed Bureau
of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms raid on the Branch Davidian compound
outside Waco, Texas, is the only person the United States has ever
nominated to head Interpol in the 75-year history of the
organization.



[Isn't Noble married to Maggie Williams?  MS]

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] W's wealth

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

HoustonChronicle
July 02, 1999, 09:41 p.m.

Bush reveals true picture of wealth

Presidential hopeful is worth millions

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Republican presidential front-runner
George W. Bush gave Americans a more detailed picture of
his wealth Friday, disclosing that he owns more than $7
million in U.S. Treasury notes and a blind trust worth more
than $1 million.

The son of former President Bush also reported that he has
two money market accounts with a total value of between
$600,000 and $1.25 million, three checking accounts with a
total value of between $3,000 and $45,000, and no debts.
And he received the first half of a $250,000 advance for a
campaign biography he is writing with Houston Chronicle
sports columnist Mickey Herskowitz. Bush's initial share,
after commission, was $106,250, which he is donating to
four youth charities.

Bush, who is paid $97,890 as governor of Texas, reported on
his federal income tax return in April that he and his
wife, Laura, had $18 million in income and paid $3.7
million in taxes in 1998.

Included in that total was the $14.9 million he received
when the Texas Rangers baseball team was sold. Bush
initially paid $606,302 for his share of the club.

Bush still has a share of the partnership that owned the
team, valued at between $1 million and $5 million. When the
partnership finally is dissolved, Bush is expected to
receive an additional $1 million to $2 million.

The governor also earned capital-gains income of between
$100,000 and $1 million from the sale of real estate
investments, capital-gains income of $100,000 to $1 million
from Advance Paradigm stock and capital-gains income of
between $50,000 and $100,000 from the sale of investments
in oil and gas.

He reported his largest asset was his investment in U.S.
Treasury notes, which he valued at between $7.2 million and
$14 million. He reported those notes alone earned him
between $351,000 and $1.2 million in 1998.

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[CTRL] OEN 7/3/99

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
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Today's Lesson From Schrodinger's Kittens and the Search for Reality

by John Gribben


Feynman's unsung insight suggested, more than a half century ago, that
the behavior of electromagnetic radiation, and the way in which it
interacts with charged particles, could be explained by taking seriously
the fact that there are two sets of solutions to Maxwell's equations,
the equations that describe electromagnetic waves moving through space
like ripples moving across the surface of a pond. One set of solutions,
the 'common-sense' solutions, describes waves moving outward from an
accelerated charged particle and forwards in time, like ripples
spreading from the point where a stone has been dropped into the pond.
The second set of solutions, largely ignored even today, describes waves
travelling backwards in time and converging onto charged particles, like
ripples that start from the edge of the pond and converge onto a point
in the middle of the pond. As I discussed in Chapter Two, when proper
allowance is made for both sets of equations interacting with all the
charged particles in the Universe, most of the complexity cancels out,
leaving only the familiar common-sense (or 'retarded') waves to carry
electromagnetic influences from one charged particle to another. But as
a result of all these interactions, each individual charged
particle--including each electron--is instantaneously aware of its
position in relation to all the other charged particles in the Universe.
The one tangible influence of the waves that travel backwards in time
(the 'advanced' waves) is that they provide feedback which makes every
charged particle an integrated part of the whole electromagnetic web.
Poke an electron in a laboratory here on Earth, and in principle every
charged particle in, say, the Andromeda galaxy, more than two million
light years away, immediately knows what has happened, even though any
retarded wave produced by poking the electron here on Earth will take
more than two million years to reach the Andromeda galaxy
=


Symbolism

Bald Eagle Bites Clinton

On the left hand, no less

A BALD eagle, the emblem of the United States, bit President Clinton at
a ceremony on the White House lawn yesterday.
Mr Clinton's staff had arranged for the eagle, Challenger, to be present
when he announced that the species was being taken off the endangered
list after a 27-year conservation project. The President described the
eagle as the "living symbol of our democracy" and then moved over to
talk to the bird's handler, Al Cesari.

Mr Clinton looked distinctly uneasy as he stood just out of pecking
distance of the bird, whose image appears on the great seal of the
United States, on the dollar bill and a host of other national symbols.
As the President turned to congratulate volunteers from the
eagle-salvation programme who were standing behind Challenger's perch,
the 10-year-old bird bent forward and pecked him hard on the left hand.

Mr Clinton withdrew his hand quickly, shook it and inspected the damage,
as an embarrassed Mr Cesari moved in. A spokesman for the White House
said later: "The President was bitten, but no blood was drawn. He told
aides as he left the ceremony that he was sure that bird was not the
only creature in Washington who would like to have a go at him."

The eagle had been reduced from an estimated population of half a
million, when it was chosen as America's emblem in 1783, to only 417
pairs in 1963.

The London Telegraph, July 3, 1999


Investment Banking

Is There Life After Leeson?

The investment bank ING bought for £1


The name's almost the same, but the ING Barings of today is a far
different animal from the UK investment bank that Nick Leeson's rogue
trading brought down four and a half years ago.


Picked up for £1 ($1.58) by the Dutch bank and insurance company ING
Group, ING Barings has experienced no shortage of upheaval since then,
as it has struggled with the management and cultural issues shared by
other investment banks owned by larger financial services organisations.
It also shared the pain of two years of turbulence in emerging markets.


In less than five months last year, ING Barings lost a new chief
executive, Arjun Mathrani, then its chairman and interim chief
executive, Marinus Minderhoud.


It also cut 1,200 of 10,000 jobs worldwide and saw the departure of some
of its most prominent UK corporate bankers.


What has emerged from two years of turmoil is a bank focusing on medium-
size companies in Europe, while retaining an interest in emerging
markets. ING Barings now takes in the branch network of the former ING
Bank International, the parent's treasury operations, Barings
Securities, as well as the remnants of the old Barings Brothers in
London.


Crucial to success was finding the right chief executive. David Robins,
who joined in October, had the 

[CTRL] FBI Subdues 'Privacy Gone Crazy'

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20554.html
A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20554.html"Political
News from Wired News
/A
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FBI Subdues 'Privacy Gone Crazy'
by Declan McCullagh
3:00 a.m.  2.Jul.99.PDT

WASHINGTON -- Law enforcement groups and their supporters in Congress
rallied late Thursday to defeat a bank privacy proposal.
Warning in the darkest terms that a plan to protect the confidentiality
of bank records was "privacy gone crazy," opponents angrily denounced it
on the floor of the House of Representatives.

The House then rejected the reform package, 299-129, with only 12
Democrats supporting it.



See also: How to Reconcile Bank Privacy





Federal law requires banks to monitor their customers for suspicious or
unusual behavior and submit a report to a massive database in Detroit
jointly administered by the IRS and FinCEN, another Treasury Department
agency. Those reports contain personal information, including the
customer's Social Security number, bank account number, address, and
phone number.

A hastily assembled alliance of law-and-order conservatives and liberal
Democrats predicted that a plan to reduce such surveillance of customers
would turn the United States into "a money-laundering haven."

"Say no to the dope dealers," said Representative Maxine Waters
(D-California).

"It guts existing money-laundering laws [and] sets the drug war back 20
years," said Representative Bill McCollum (R-Florida).

Both said the FBI, the Justice Department, and the Treasury Department
steadfastly opposed the proposal, and quoted from letters sent to
Congress by the FBI and an association of police chiefs.

The move was designed to portray the supporters of the amendment to the
Financial Services Act of 1999 as extremists who would hamstring --
according to Representative John Dingell (D-Michigan) -- law
enforcement's ability to investigate drug smugglers, the Mafia, and the
Kali cartel.

For the most part, it worked. The plan's backers appeared dogged but
outflanked by the aggressive opposition, and their aides privately began
girding themselves for defeat.

"This notion that it is going to ruin law enforcement is just not
valid," said Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas). "It protects the
consumer. It protects the citizen."

Representative Tom Campbell (R-California) said current law is an
"invasion of individual liberty in the guise of law enforcement."

The measure, backed by Paul, Campbell, and Georgia Republican Bob Barr,
would have made federal laws requiring banks to report "suspicious
transactions" more precise, and the rules requiring that banks report
deposits or withdrawals of more than US$10,000 would in the future apply
to amounts greater than $25,000.

Paul and Barr tried to use the momentum against the reviled Know Your
Customer monitoring plan to advance their amendment.

The defeat by the full House means the amendment was not part of the
financial modernization bill, which the chamber approved 343-83.

Related Wired Links:

Know Your (Customer) Rights
30.Jun.99
Anti-Privacy Bank Rules Crushed
5.Mar.99
Bank Plan May be Doomed
4.Mar.99
Foes Target 'Know Your Customer'
20.Jan.99
Banking with Big Brother
10.Dec.98


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[CTRL] Air Pockets Economic Confusion a sign of the times?

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.pei-intl.com/TOPICS/CONFU614.htm
A HREF="http://www.pei-intl.com/TOPICS/CONFU614.htm"Air Pockets  Economic
Confusion a sign of the
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Air Pockets  Economic Confusion a sign of the times?

By Barclay Leib

June 14th, 1999

Copyright Princeton Economic Institute



Subsequent to Princeton Economics April 8th Confidence Interval, few
participants in the market have been particularly happy, and the
dispersions between various market indices have become more and more
noticeable. Volume overall has continued to dry up, and the market, for
lack of a better word, has taken on a feeling that is somewhat "eerie."

While the Dow Jones has rallied over 700 points since the beginning of
April, many of those oh-so popular Internet stocks have fallen by over
40%. Dell Computer, about which we commented at some length in the
February World Capital Markets Report as an alleged potential modern-day
version of the old Ponzi scheme, is down over 20% since we inked our
thoughts.

The Dow Jones Utility Average just reached new all-time highs, while the
usual best proxy for this index, U.S. T-bonds, just broke to new lows,
and are now sporting yields greater than 6%. Meanwhile the Dow Jones
Transports peaked not in April with the Internet stocks, nor in June
with the current highs of the DJUA, but with the last thrust higher in
the SP 500 index in early May. Since that time, the DJTA has traded off
a fairly substantial 12%, while the SP 500 is off just a minor 3%. Very
little seems in synch here.

Even many of the technical indicators are flashing completely different
signals. Complacency in the market would still appear to be quite high
as witnessed by Investors Intelligence tally of bullish advisors at
61.6%. The last time this particular indicator reached these levels was
back in August 1987, just before a wee-bit of weakness one may remember
that October. And yet, the latest CFTC commitments of traders report
shows that speculators, as of June 1, are at their highest level of net
short index futures positions since late 1994. Late 1994 was of course
when this market took off on its latest bull run.

The disparity between such usually reliable indicators is exactly the
way the U.S. equity market feels at present: flaky and unreliable. It is
slowly stumbling lower but without any pace or conviction. Occasional
spikes higher keep the dreams of riches alive in the popular media, but
in reality, no one is getting quite as rich, quite as quickly, or quite
as easily as they were before April 8th.

Seemingly stock pickers and equity market pundits are all still bullish,
but the large speculative futures traders (hedge funds?) are all
positioned short. At the same time, the net short open interest in many
individual stocks has dropped precipitously. As Fred Hickey of the High
Tech Strategist points out, when Dell was at the equivalent price of 20
last October, the entire short position in Dell totaled over 100 million
shares. By early February, when Dell finally peaked at 55, the net short
position in Dell had fallen to under 48 million shares. Overall, the
mania had simply gone too high and had carried on for too long -- some
17 weeks with only a few shallow down weeks among them – for most shorts
to have survived. This is not dissimilar to the void of players created
back in 1980 when silver had finally reached $54 an ounce. Liquidity
declines as prices turn more and more exponential, and it does not tend
to come back even after the market breaks. Instead, players both long
and short get tired of getting "stopped," so they just stop trading.
Capital retreats. The market finds a temporary equilibrium and just
sits. This may be one reason that the amount of traffic on the Internet
on major financial web pages actually dropped in April compared to the
previous month for the first time ever.

Even the typical correlations that we usually see between markets when
we look at our own artificial intelligence models, seem to be pointing
to very different internal market rhythms. Although the entire period
between mid-July and mid-August shows up as singularly volatile, the
respective panic cycles of the SP’s, Dow Jones, Nasdaq, DAX, CAC, FTSE,
Nikkei, and Hang Seng barely have a single week in common. After having
studied these models for over 25-years, we do not remember another
period quite this complicated to decipher. Usually one would see many
more cross-market similarities – much more of a cross-market
macro-rhythm. What we see instead is a global financial system that
already is disjointed and likely to become more so in the weeks to come.
If the world feels like one giant stop-loss, it may be because that is
exactly what it is: hedge funds continue to net liquidate positions
right and left and retreat one by one to the sidelines.

From the Fed’s perspective, what appears to have been going on here is
indeed healthy to 

Re: [CTRL] SOON: The Phoenix no longer endangered....

1999-07-03 Thread AOL User

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ROTFL

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Re: [CTRL] !@ Johnson Johnson - Brainwashing our Youth . . .?

1999-07-03 Thread AOL User

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Acclimation to satanic symbols.  Like acclimation to satanic verses in heavy
metal type music.

The occult has been sweeping our society since the 60's and has not stopped.
It's not likely to.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] re: repressed memories, ritual abuse and the possible Masonicconnection

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan





[EMAIL PROTECTED], 7/2/99

Dear List,

The first two articles mentioned back the existence of ritual abuse and
repressed memories. The third article (which may be triggering for survivors)
is a survivor account by

Claudia Mullen, who testified at the 1995 Advisory Committee on Human
Radiation Experiments,  for a copy of Claudia's  "Statement to Presidential
Report on Radiation, see http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-15.htm

A video tape of the hearing is available from: Missoulians for a Clean
Environment, P O Box 2885, Missoula, MT 59806, 406-543-7210.

The Interim Report of the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments
is available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing
Office. The stock number is 061-000-00819-5, for $9.00. Telephone orders:
202-512-1800, fax 202-512-2250 (8-4 EST), mail orders US Gov't Printing
Office, P O Box 371954, Pitts., PA 15250-7954.


Article 1:
Denying Ritual Abuse of Children, Catherine Gould, ph. D. The Journal of
Psychohistory, Winter, 1995, No. 3, pgs 329-339. The article discusses the
reasons for the denial of ritual abuse in the U.S., the increased trauma
symptoms of ritual abuse survivors over non-ritual survivors,  biased media
reporting and research and legal proceedings that have exposed ritual abuse.


Article 2:
Traumatic Amnesia: The Evolution of Our Understanding From A Clinical and
Legal Perspective, Dr. Charles Whitfield (Sexual Addiction and Compulsivity,
4(2), 3-34, 1997). This review describes extensive evidence that traumatic
amnesia is a real part of the effects and the natural history of  child
sexual abuse. To receive E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eileen King), or call the
publisher at 202-289-2174.

Article 3:
The following article comes from a radio interview between Wayne Morris
(interviewer) and Claudia Mullen (alleged mind control survivor) on CKLN FM
88.1 Ryerson Polytechnic University, Toronto, INTERNATIONAL CONNECTION - Tape
15A. Please use caution while reading.  It may be triggering. CKLN-FM Radio,
380 Victoria Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M5B 1W7, Phone: (416)
595-1477, Fax: (416) 595-0226, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The  words "alleged" have been added by S.M.A.R.T. and are not part of the
original transcript.

This information comes from "Part 3 of an interview" that Wayne Morris
"conducted with Claudia Mullen, an alleged survivor of US government mind
control. Claudia describes what she remembers of the alleged mind control
experiments at Tulane University in New Orleans that started when she was
eight years old. Claudia is alleging that the CIA and U.S. military
experimented on her and other children using severe trauma, drugs,
electroshock, hypnosis and other methods to control her. She claims she was
allegedly trained to sexually please men by the CIA and was allegedly used as
a young child and a young woman for sexual entrapment of military and
government officials

Claudia discusses how she was traumatized by some of the doctors. " Sometimes
they would allegedly send me to  . . .  people (they knew) in the city who
were involved in the white supremacy groups  . . .  sometimes they would send
me out to alleged Klan meetings ...

they can create the circumstances that they know if you are able to
dissociate you will, you will do it. Like the trauma I just described, by
sending me out to an alleged Masonic Lodge for a party  . . .  they would
send me out and they knew something horrible was going to happen to me. They
knew that I would split

Claudia talked about how the doctors would "cover their tracks" and about the
alleged abuse in the Masonic Lodge. "So they would kind of mimic Satanic
rituals to make it seem like that had happened, and if I ever told anybody,
they would dismiss it right away . . .

I allegedly went to a couple of Masonic parties at a Lodge which was located
right near the research building  . . .  the research building for animal
research in New Orleans, and it is still there as a matter of fact. I have
been back there. They allegedly sent me there sometimes, for certain tests,
for experiments  . . .  there was a Masonic Lodge right around the corner
from it  . . .  and they allegedly sent me to a couple of parties there.
These people go crazy at these parties. These men, they just get drunk and  .
. .  they pass you around  . . .  it's horrible what they do. This of course
makes it seem like  . . .  if I remember  . . .  well, I remember being at
this party and these men were hurting me but I don't remember doctors being
involved, I don't remember Tulane University being involved, or anybody from
Maryland. I allegedly would remember this Masonic Lodge and so that's how
they cover their tracks . . .

WAYNE MORRIS:
When you remember this Lodge, did you make attempts to verify where it was?

CLAUDIA MULLEN:
Yeah, we went there. We went to the Lodge, talked to people, but it's
not an (alleged) Lodge anymore, it's a public health building now. We talked
to 

[CTRL] [1] The Marcos Dynasty

1999-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Marcos Dynasty
Sterling Seagrave©1988
Harper  Row, Inc
ISBN 0-06-015815-8
out-of-print
--[1]--


Prologue

A DISEASE OF THE HEART

 BROKEN MASTS of sunken ships stuck up out of Manila Bay like a burned-out
pine forest when I first arrived in the Philippines as a boy at the end of
World War H. Ferdinand Marcos was then a young lawyer with a reassuring grin
preparing to make his first run for Congress and his first million dollars,
and Imelda Romualdez was a barefoot high school girl on the island of Leyte.
Manila had been flattened by American artillery at the bitter end, but the
fine old Manila Hotel on the bayfront seemed miraculously intact, some said
because General Douglas MacArthur was a director of the hotel and had a
penthouse on its roof; and over on the banks of the muddy Pasig River, where
the bloated bodies of dogs drifted by on their way to the South China Sea,
Malacanang Palace was unscathed, a sprawling Spanish colonial hacienda in the
midst of its own walled park.

I made many other visits as a journalist over the years while Ferdinand and
Imelda rose to power, secured the beginning of a dynasty, became arguably the
richest couple on the planet, then in 1986 took what used to be called French
leave, climbing tearfully aboard American helicopters with suitcases full of
dollars in the time-honored tradition, heading-without yet realizing it-for
exile in Honolulu, as mobs outside worked up the courage to storm the gates.
The phenomenon of "People Power" took the overthrow of Ferdinand and Imelda
out of the hands of ludicrously incompetent rival military factions; nuns
stopped armored personnel carriers (everyone thought they were tanks) by
kneeling in their path to say rosaries; and pretty girls blocked soldiers in
battledress to poke flowers down the muzzles of their assault rifles. There
was a lot of weeping and singing, and in the midst of this great passion the
knees of the renegade defense minister Juan Ponce Enrile were shaking so
badly he could hardly stand up. Although he wore a flak jacket and carried an
Uzi, and had a bodyguard of colonels and majors, when he passed through the
crowds his real security was provided by a flock of nuns.


Under the Marcoses, Malacanang Palace had changed. Beneath its shady
balconies there was now a "Black Room" where very special political prisoners
were tortured. In addition to the three thousand pairs of shoes Imelda left
behind, Filipinos searching the palace basement found her bulletproof
brassiere, which could bring a tidy sum in auction at Christie's.

Manila also had changed. It was once a gracious city and may be again. But
along the bayfront in the five-star tourist hotel district of Ermita facing
the U.S. Embassy, little boys and girls age six or seven now plucked at the
shirttails of tourists, offering to perform oral sex for a dollar. Among the
most popular tours of the Marcos era were sex junkets for pederasts. As
novelist P. F. Kluge observed, the Philippines had become "America's
fellatrix.

From the heights of power-when they were fawned over by diplomats, bribed by
an American president, paid off by the Pentagon, and indulged by the World
Bank-Ferdinand and Imelda crashed into a public plight so demeaning it was
pitiable. Under what amounted to modified house arrest in Honolulu, they
appeared before television cameras like King Lear and his clown, wringing
from the audience equal parts of sympathy and astonishment. In his
humiliation, launching one desperate plot after another to regain the throne,
only to have his most secret conversations taped and made public by men with
fewer scruples than he, Marcos and his dynasty became a joke. Why, then, were
we persuaded to take him seriously for more than twenty years? Was there some
kind of game being played in which we ourselves were the unwitting fools? The
answer, unfortunately, is yes.

Despite the blizzard of stories and TV interviews that followed the Marcos
downfall, the public airing of Imelda's black lace underwear, and the
revelations of grand larceny on both their parts, I found the Marcos saga
deeply unsatisfying. What the Marcoses had done was clear-at least in broad
outline-but not why they did it, what drove them to such extremes, and who
helped them gain power and hold on to it so long. Among the press disclosures
there were hints of Marcos' ties to underworld figures from America, Europe,
Australia, China, and Japan; and there were reports that Ferdinand had been
involved in peculiar gold bullion transactions with reputable bankers,
statesmen, military men, and gold merchants. The sums mentioned totaled
hundreds of tons of bullion, perhaps thousands of tons, far more than the
Philippine gold reserves. Had Marcos actually found Yamashita's Gold, the
legendary Japanese booty from World War 11 stolen from a dozen countries?

As I began to trace the secret bullion transactions, the real story of
Yamashita's Gold unfolded in a totally 

Re: [CTRL] Should Guns should be banned for all Americans? [poll]

1999-07-03 Thread nurev

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"Peter L. Sroufe" wrote:

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 "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
 patriots and tyrants.
 It is it's natural manure."
 --- Thomas Jefferson, 1787


Great quote! GreaT idea too. C'mon Patriots, now that you know what
you're
full of, do your thing.

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[CTRL] W hat happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

1999-07-03 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Hilary,

I came across this interesting message.  Thought it should be shared
with the list.

For What Its Worth,

Joe

  Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed
  the Declaration of Independence?

  Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured
before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost
their
sons in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured.  Nine of the
56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary  War.
They
signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred
honor.

  What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.
Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men
of
means and well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence
knowing full  well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

  Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw
  his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy.  He sold his
  home and  properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

  Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced
  to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress
  without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were
  taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

  Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall,
  Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

  At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the
  British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his
  headquarters.  He quietly urged General George Washington to
  open  fire.  The home was destroyed, and Nelson died Bankrupt.

  Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy
  jailed  His wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was
driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying.  Their 13 children fled
for
  their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste.
  For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home
  to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later
  he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.

  Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.

  Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution.
  These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were
  soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but
  they valued liberty more.

  Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the
  support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the
  protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other,
  our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

  They gave you and me a free and independent America.  Some of us
  take  these liberties so much for granted ... We shouldn't.

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[CTRL] Uses for BOUNCE Laundry Static Stoppers .....

1999-07-03 Thread Bill Richer

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  Lots of uses for BOUNCE Laundry Static Stoppers .

   Repels mosquitoes.
   Tie a sheet of Bounce through a belt loop when outdoors
   during mosquito season.

   Eliminates static electricity from your television screen.
   Since Bounce is designed to help eliminate static cling, wipe
   your television screen with a used sheet of Bounce to keep
   dust from resettling.

   Dissolves soap scum from shower doors.
   Clean with a used sheet of Bounce.

   Freshens the air in your home.
   Place an individual sheet of Bounce in a drawer or hang one
   in the closet.

   Prevents thread from tangling.
   Run a threaded needle through a sheet of Bounce to eliminate
   the static cling on the thread before sewing.

   Eliminates static cling from pantyhose.
   Rub a damp, used sheet of Bounce over the hose.

   Prevents musty suitcases.
   Place an individual sheet of Bounce inside empty luggage
   before storing.

   Freshens the air in your car.
   Place a sheet of Bounce under the front seat.

   Cleans baked-on food from a cooking pan.
   Put a sheet in the pan, fill with water, let sit overnight, and
   sponge clean.  The anti-static agents apparently weaken the
   bond between the food and the pan while the fabric softening
   agents soften the baked-on food.

   Eliminates odors in wastebaskets.
   Place a sheet of Bounce at the bottom of the wastebasket.

   Collects cat hair.
   Rubbing the area with a sheet of Bounce will magnetically
   attract all the loose hairs.

   Eliminates static electricity from venetian blinds.
   Wipe the blinds with a sheet of Bounce to prevent dust
   from resettling.

   Wipes up sawdust from drilling or sandpapering.
   A used sheet of Bounce will collect sawdust like a tack cloth.

   Eliminates odors in dirty laundry.
   Place an individual sheet of Bounce at the bottom of a laundry
   bag or hamper.

   Deodorizes shoes or sneakers.
   Place a sheet of Bounce in your shoes or sneakers overnight
   so they'll smell great in the morning.

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[CTRL] Secret Service May Ask Agents To Pledge Silence

1999-07-03 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Saturday July 3 1:44 PM ET

Secret Service May Ask Agents To Pledge Silence

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Secret Service is considering requiring new
agents to sign a pledge that they will not discuss what they see and hear
while protecting a president, Director Brian Stafford said Saturday.

After at least one former agent discussed ex-intern Monica Lewinsky with
reporters and a retired member of President John Kennedy's protective detail
revealed Kennedy's sexual trysts to author Seymour Hersh, the Secret Service
is reviewing a pledge of confidentiality as a condition of employment.

``In over 100 years, we never felt that there was a need to do that,''
Stafford said in an interview with the CBS News program ``Saturday
Morning.''

``It was just a code that we all thought and felt very strongly about and
didn't feel that we had to reduce it to paper,'' he said. ``But we are
now.''

``Our legal people are now looking at a confidentiality statement which new
employees will be required to sign,'' Stafford said.

Stafford, who became director four months ago, also told CBS that he will
urge Congress to exempt agents from being subpoenaed and forced to testify,
as they were by independent counsel Kenneth Starr as part of his probe of
the Lewinsky affair.

``When there's a new president, if they don't trust us, they don't have
confidence in us, then we won't be able to do our job well and they will
push us back,'' Stafford said.
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] W's wealth

1999-07-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 07/03/1999 9:46:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Republican presidential front-runner
 George W. Bush gave Americans a more detailed picture of
 his wealth Friday, disclosing that he owns more than $7
 million in U.S. Treasury notes and a blind trust worth more
 than $1 million. 

At first I thought, "Well, at least he won't have to get rich at the
country's expense, and then I remembered.  George, Jr., has a long, long list
of favors to repay.  I've read about all the provident things that happened
with him, and it's easy to see he is going to have to do a lot of good things
to make his benefactors happy.  Oh well.  We can't win for losing, can we?
Prudy

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #1

1999-07-03 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990703a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No photons disintegrated during production of this bulletin. Just wait.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Virtual Humans Make Their Debut. "Virtual humans never tire and never need
  a break. They will be just as knowledgeable, friendly, and humorous at the
  end of the day as they are at the beginning." And they don't demand higher
  pay, days off: http://www.newswise.com/articles/1999/2/VIRTUAL2.RTI.html

: Do you prefer real or virtual humans, aliens, animals, robots, food, air,
drugs, water? Will we all be virtual someday? Will we last longer? Why not?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

$ Hidden Mysteries of the Pyramids. An expedition made it to the secret room
  UNDER the pyramid. They took 2700 microfilms  spent years in translation.
  Read what they found in this book. http://www.immunotex.com/books/

: Has anyone found secret rooms under the other pyramids of Egypt, Yucatan,
China? What happened to the stuff found there? Why is it being suppressed?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# New UK Crop Formations. Photographer Peter Sorensen has flown over several
  extraordinary new and mysterious crop formations in Southern England the
  past few days. His aerial photographs: http://earthfiles.com/earth046.html

: Are aliens responsible for crop circles, stone circles, kelp/tree circles,
traffic circles? Do they cut circles at wheat farms, maize farms, ant farms,
fish farms, fat farms, antenna farms? Why don't we see ellipses, pentagons?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# INTERNET'S BIGGEST DANGER? THE 'GULLIBILITY' VIRUS. Probably the most
  dangerous thing on the Internet is the "gullibility" virus. The ease
  with which false information, urban rumors and unsubstantiated product
  claims can be forwarded by e-mail is truly frightening.
  http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=13888

: Have you been infected with this virus? Is there any cure? Do you believe
everything/anything/nothing of what you read online? Is it all a blur? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Fireworks shower toxic chemicals. (BBC) Americans  Canadians could finish
  their Fourth of July  Canada Day festivities in a fog of toxic chemicals
  after their traditional fireworks displays. Poisonous patriotism - see:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_384000/384905.stm

: Does your belief system promote toxic celebrations, environmental degrada-
tion, explosions? Do the voices in your head tell you which poisons to use?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks - SciNews:

  BIOMEDICAL
# Effects of Nicotine Influenced by Housing and Gender:
# Heavenly Scent (effect of armpit scents on the mood):
  http://www.scicentral.com/B-behavs.html#articles
# New Drugs Fight Cancer, Heart Disease in Women ("designer estrogens"):
# How Glaxo Wellcome Developed an Aids Drug for Children:
  http://www.scicentral.com/B-biotec.html#articles

  ENVIRONMENT  ECOLOGY
# Chernobyl Ups Thyroid Cancer in Children Ten Times:
# Many Contaminants in US Streams, but Few Drinking-Water Limits Exceeded:
# Australia "Drowning in Salt":
# Cities May Be Key to Saving Environment:
# Endangered Species Living on the Edge:
  http://www.scicentral.com/B-enviro.html#articles
# Special Reports: Crowded World:
  http://www.scicentral.com/B-enviro.html#reports

  EVOLUTION  PALEONTOLOGY
# Brawl Over Neandertal Kid:
# Dinosaurs' Birth Was as Accidental as Their Death?
# Evolution Revolution?
   http://www.scicentral.com/B-evolut.html#articles
# Special Reports: Dating the Yixian:
# http://www.scicentral.com/B-evolut.html#reports

  NEUROSCIENCES
# Left Brain, Right Brain (brain lateralization studies):
# Brains Swollen on Testosterone:
# Specially Created Molecules Can Cross Blood-Brain Barrier
  http://www.scicentral.com/B-neuros.html#articles

  BIODIVERSITY
# Rumble in the Jungle (unique orang-utans threatened by illegal logging)
# Sea Life Reportedly Threatened by Man-Made Underwater Noise
# Researcher Says Panda Cloning "Worth the Risk"
  http://www.scicentral.com/B-wildfi.html#articles

  ASTRONOMY
# Many Life-Bearing Planets Could Exist in Interstellar Space:
# Hubble Images a Swarm of Ancient Stars:
# Comet Hale-Bopp: Still Enormous!
# Taking the Scenic Route to Io:
# Astronomers Find More Evidence of Black Holes in Galactic Nuclei:
  http://www.scicentral.com/S-astron.html#articles

  GEOPHYSICS  SEISMOLOGY
# Most of the Asteroid that Formed Meteor Crater Was Shock Melted:
# An Expedition to a Subduction Factory:
# Days Just Drag (effect of global warming on Earth's rotation):
# Return to Tunguska (expedition to investigate site of 1908 meteor impact):
  http://www.scicentral.com/S-geophy.html#articles

  METEOROLOGY  CLIMATOLOGY
# La Niña Is Almost Gone:
# Tropical Ocean Plays Host to Major Climate Change Research Effort:
# Tornado Rising:
  

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Skull and Bones and the Fourth of July

1999-07-03 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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The Bohemian Grove started out as somewhat benign organization..  During
the early years, a number of prominent California writers, poets and
musicians participated in what was supposed to be primarily an arts
gathering.

However, like so much of American culture, the Grove has been hijacked by
korporate America.

The allegations of weird doings at the Grove is based on the testimony of
Cathy O'Brien (Tranceformation of America) and other researchers who have
claimed that some of the Grove activities are kept hidden, even from other
Grove participants.  There are certain sections of the Grove that are
off-limits to outsiders.

Perhaps the stories of blood rites and sexual orgies are completely false.
Then again, perhaps there is truth in these claims.

As Kris's excellent post on the background of the NWO reveals, truth
is stranger than fiction.

My grandfather used to tell me that the uninitiated would never be able to
penetrate the secrets of the craft.  It's a little bit like an onion.
Once you think you've arrived at the center of the thing, another layer is
revealed and so on...


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2

1999-07-03 Thread ric carter

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# Eclipse 'invasion' fears over monuments. (BBC) An operation designed to
  protect Cornwall's ancient monuments during the solar eclipse has begun
  amid fears of an invasion by New Age groups. Pesky pagans are everywhere:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/specials/eclipse99/newsid_384000/3
84999.stm

: Does your NewAge cult intend to invade any ancient monuments/megaliths for
the eclipse? Will you perform sacrifices, dance naked, whoop and sing, have
too much fun? Are the rest of us invited? Will you run off any competitors?
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Milk fat knocks out sex diseases.(BBC) A fat found in milk and coconut oil
  could offer protection against sexually-transmitted infections including
  HIV, herpes and chlamydia. The compound was found to destroy such viruses
  and bacteria when dissolved in a gel. An AIDS cure in ice-cream - see
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_38/380926.stm

: When AIDS is cured, when herpes and chlamydia are cured, will you have any
excuse not to go on a fuck-fest, having sex as often as you can with as many
partners as are willing? Are STDs artificially imposed social control tools?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Coke scare blamed on mass hysteria. (BBC) Illnesses linked to Coca-Cola in
  Belgium may have been largely caused by fear rather than impurities in the
  drink: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_383000/383337.stm

: Would you rather be poisoned intentionally, accidentally, hysterically,
experimentally, tragically, magically? Are mind-control drugs in Pepsi?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Officers having a blast at ATF bomb classes. Only a heartbeat expired
  between the last shout of "fire in the hole" and the boom of the first
  explosive detonated in the dusty sagebrush landscape. Cops with noisy
  toys: http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,19491,00.html

: Do federal agents brainwash local police under the guise of 'training'? Do
you fear the complete militarization and takeover of your local cops? When?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Temple Riders cruise the high road. They don't drink or smoke; they carry
  extra copies of the Book of Mormon in their saddlebags. But the Temple
  Riders are as proud of their big bikes and black leather as any other
  motorcycle gang. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,19490,00.html

: Do you know of any black-leather biker gangs of Buddhists, Taoists, Xian
Scis, Atheists, Unitarians, Sufis, Baha'is, Quakers, Scientologists, Pagans?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Enlightening others, celebrating the past are part of Buddhists' spiritual
  journey. Sitting silently, like a meditating monk between the commotion of
  the Salt Palace and the Delta Center, is an 87-year-old temple. Like many
  of Salt Lake City's sacred spaces, it has provided a refuge for people who
  came to Utah seeking freedom. Or even those who just want to get in out of
  the sun: http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,19205,00.html

: Have you embarked on a spiritual journey? Did you reach your destination?
Was your luggage lost? Was the flight turbulent? Did you crash-land? Where?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Jehovah's Witnesses lose in court. MOSCOW (AP) A Moscow court rejected an
  appeal by Jehovah's Witnesses, saying a panel of experts would study the
  group's literature and recommend whether it should be banned. Russia's
  religion law gives courts the power to ban religious groups found guilty
  of inciting hatred or intolerant behavior. But are any churches REALLY
  tolerant? http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,19355,00.html

: What religions would you like to ban? Does your belief system destroy
families, foster hatred, threaten lives? Is your sect merely annoying? How?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

@ Welcome to Lliar's of London: http://www.truthaboutlloyds.com/
* Solar system live: http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Solar
# Slip-up may have confirmed existence of secret U.S. spy plane:
  http://telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000343180237640pg=/et/99/7/1/ecndaro01.html

@ Mental Fluorosis: Brain Damage from Fluorides:
  http://www.trufax.org/fluoride/ment.html
@ Processed Foods May Damage The Developing Brain:
  http://www.sightings.com/health3/bdam.htm

@ AI Resources: http://ai.iit.nrc.ca/ai_top.html
@ The Alife Database: http://www.aridolan.com/ad/adb/adib.html
@ BotSpot (Bots  Intelligent Agents) http://www.botspot.com/
# Artificial Intelligence: AI and A-Life:
  http://www.newscientist.com/nsplus/insight/ai/ai.html
# Smart Agents: Agents of Cooperation:
  http://www.sciencenews.org/Sn_arc99/1_2_99/bob2.htm

# The Great Quantum Number Cruncher:
  

[CTRL] [house thug pulls a fast one]THIS ONE IS BAD FOR ALL OF US/young and older

1999-07-03 Thread Peter L. Sroufe

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Subject: [conservative] THIS ONE IS REALLY BAD FOR ALL OF US/young and
older


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

THIS ONE IS REALLY BAD   BIG BROTHER HAS ARRIVED!!

WE HAVE TO STOP THIS IMMEDIATELY!!!

CONGRESSMAN GREG GANSKE (IOWA) JUST SUCCEEDED IN SNEAKING IN A PROVISION TO
A
MASSIVE BILL, LATE IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, BEFORE A MAJOR HOLIDAY
WEEKEND, LIED ABOUT WHAT IT REALLY WAS, AND NOW, IT HAS BEEN PASSED BY A
HUGE
MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE!!!   IT ALLOWS CREDIT AGENCIES WIDE ACCESS TO OUR MOST
PRIVATE MEDICAL INFORMATION, WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION Translation...
if
you are sick with cancer and try to get credit to help you pay your bills,
you may be denied credit because you have a diagnosis they do not like

It seems like our Congressmen DO NOT READ THE BILLS THEY SIGN, OR ARE JUST
GUILTY OF MALPRACTICE!!!  This is no joke, THIS IS REALLY SCARY FOR EVERY
ONE
OF US!!!

WE NEED TO SPEND OUR WEEKEND E-MAILING, WRITING LETTERS, CALLING OR WHATEVER
IT TAKES TO GET THIS KILLED, or you may be denied a mortgage, college loan
for your kids, or whatever, if the credit agencies do not like your
diagnosis!!!

PLEASE, IF YOU DO NOTHING ELSE THIS WEEKEND, FIGHT THIS, NOW!!! WRITE THE
HOUSE, THE SENATE AND THE WHITE HOUSE.  THIS IS WHAT OUR GROUP IS ABOUT!!
THIS IS WHAT WE DO SO WELL TOGETHER   Los Angeles Times reports this
today!!


***
 Friday, July 2, 1999
House Approves Disclosure of Private Medical Records
By ALISSA J. RUBIN, Times Staff Writer

 WASHINGTON--Individual medical records, including patients' genetic
information, could be disclosed by health insurers to credit card companies
and other financial institutions under legislation overwhelmingly approved
Thursday by the House.

 The controversial provision is embedded in a massive bill overhauling
the financial services industry, which passed, 343 to 86. The provision was
slipped into the measure late in the legislative process and was advertised
as a medical confidentiality provision by its sponsor, Rep. Greg Ganske
(R-Iowa), who is a doctor.

 Ganske said that his intention in adding the provision was to protect
consumers' medical records and to allow their disclosure only for billing
and
other health care operations.

 But privacy experts said that it is virtually a "publicity" provision
that, because of the way it is worded, would allow broad disclosures of
private medical information without a patient's permission.

 "Under this legislation, a health insurer can send a patient's
diagnosis
to a credit agency. They can say, in effect, 'By the way, Joan Smith has a
brain tumor; don't lend her any money,' " said Tim Westmoreland, a senior
policy fellow at Georgetown University Law Center.

 A number of groups, including the American Medical Assn., the American
Civil Liberties Union and the American Psychiatric Assn., oppose the
provision.

 Although the Clinton administration supports the bill as a whole, it
urged Congress to drop the medical confidentiality section because it could
undermine privacy protections. But lawmakers said that Clinton is unlikely
to
veto the bill over the medical privacy provision alone.

If the bill becomes law, it would mark the first time since the Great
Depression that the nation's banking laws have been overhauled. The goal of
the popular legislation is to allow financial services firms--banks, savings
and loan associations, investment banking firms, brokerage companies and
insurers--to compete in each other's lines of business. The Senate already
has approved a financial services modernization bill but did not include any
mention of medical privacy.

 It is unclear whether the medical privacy provision will remain part of
the financial services bill. It could be removed in a House-Senate
conference
committee, which would have to work out differences between the two versions
of the legislation.

Both houses of Congress are working on separate medical confidentiality
legislation, which could come to votes later this summer. Currently there
are
no comprehensive federal laws protecting individual health information.

 Lawmakers feel a need to move quickly. If they fail to act by late
August, Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala is required to
issue regulations protecting the privacy of electronic medical records.

The legislation approved Thursday would allow medical information held
by
insurance companies to be released for a variety of purposes, including to
determine charges for premiums and for research projects of any
kind--medical
and nonmedical.

 Among the entities who could review individual medical data are credit
card companies and banks. There is no restriction on how they could use the
information.

Ganske, author of the provision, and lobbyists for the banking industry,

[CTRL] (Fwd) Spaceward Ho

1999-07-03 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

 When NASA was preparing for the Apollo project, they did some
 astronaut training on a Navajo Indian reservation. One day, a Navajo
 elder and his son were herding sheep and came across the space crew.
 The old man, who only spoke Navajo, asked a question, which his son
 translated. "What are the guys in the big suits doing?"

 A member of the crew said they were practicing for their trip to the
 moon. The old man got really excited and asked if he could send a
 message to the moon with the astronauts. Recognizing a promotional
 opportunity for the spin-doctors, the NASA folks found a tape
 recorder. After the old man recorded his message, they asked the son
 to translate. He refused.

 So the NASA reps brought the tape to the reservation, where the rest
 of the tribe listened and laughed, but refused to translate the
 elder's message to the moon. Finally, NASA called in an official
 government translator. He reported that the moon message said, "Watch
 out for these guys; they've come to steal your land."

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[CTRL] White House Goes Mad-TV

1999-07-03 Thread Das GOAT

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Rubin Grabbed in Sendoff Spoof

By WILLIAM C. MANN
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Late in his tenure as Treasury secretary, Robert Rubin
often had occasion to tear into the way Japan handled its reeling economy.
The Japanese probably didn't like it, but enough to kidnap him?

Yep, said a videotape spoof shown in the White House's state dining room to
President Clinton, along with the first lady and other Rubin friends and
colleagues attending a retirement party thrown by the president Thursday
night.

The premise was that retired Japanese bureaucrats took Rubin hostage in Tokyo
and refused to let him go unless he would say something - ANYTHING - positive
about the Japanese economy.

The CIA reports to Clinton that, aware of the U.S. military's ``name, rank,
serial number'' limits to cooperation with captors, Rubin held out against
his. He gave them nothing more than a lesson in basic capitalism: ``My name
is Bob Rubin. I am a U.S. citizen. Markets go up and markets go down. I have
nothing more to say.''

Jesse Jackson, whose real-life hostage-retrieving skills were honed in Iraq
and Yugoslavia, finally is called on to find ``common ground between the yen
and the yang.'' Successful, Jackson declares: ``Free at last, free at last.
Thank God almighty, Bob's free at last.''

Gene Sperling, Clinton's chief economic adviser, conceived, produced,
directed, wrote the screenplay of (what there was of it), acted in and was
cinematographer for the production.

Sperling's handiwork producing ``Free Bob: A Documentary'' did not go
unnoticed. His spokesman, Jake Siewert, introduced his boss Friday at a White
House briefing as ``chairman of the National Economic Council and a
documentary filmmaker.''

Sperling reportedly worked on the movie, off and on, over a 24-hour period,
then got editing help from a friend who's an experienced editor.

The concept probably came easily to Sperling: Japanese officials were known
to resent Rubin's outspokenness about economic mismanagement in their
country. Tokyo quickly congratulated his successor, Rubin's longtime deputy
Lawrence Summers, after his swearing-in Friday.

In addition to Jackson and Sperling, the videotape featured some of
Washington's most powerful people.

Sandy Berger, Clinton's national security adviser, argues with Sperling about
whose name goes atop the memo to Clinton outlining rescue options. Japan is a
foreign country, but the demands are economic.

Clinton tries to keep himself above the fray by working on a crossword
puzzle.

Defense Secretary William Cohen reports in the Pentagon press room that he's
offering the Navy's entire $82 billion budget to pay for Rubin's hotel room
in outrageously expensive Tokyo.

Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan gives his report. ``Greenspan's
comments were straight up,'' an official who saw the film said, ``but in the
context, you had to laugh.''

Thursday night's showing was supposed to be the last, and as of Saturday
nobody had reported that a copy had been leaked. But in Washington, just
wait.

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[CTRL] NATO Bars Russia from Kosovo

1999-07-03 Thread Das GOAT

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NATO Nixes Russian Reinforcements

By WILLIAM C. MANN
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - NATO thwarted Russian attempts to fly reinforcements to its
peacekeeping forces in Yugoslavia because the Kremlin wants to revise the
agreement giving Russia a role in policing the peace, alliance and U.S.
officials said Saturday.

NATO's military headquarters in Belgium expects the Russians this week to
continue talks on the requested revisions. They broke off Wednesday without
agreement after three days.

Russia wants to change an agreement reached in lengthy negotiations last
month at Helsinki, Finland, that outlined Russian participation in a NATO-led
peacekeeping force. NATO officials speaking on condition of anonymity said
Russia wants to send some of its troops into sectors of Kosovo controlled by
other NATO countries. Separately, Russia wants to water down NATO's command
of Russian forces.

``We continue to work with Russian military representatives on the
arrangements'' for its participation, a U.S. official said. ``It is NATO's
view that we should complete all of these arrangements before additional
Russian forces deploy to Kosovo.''

German Col. Michael Kaemmerer, a NATO official at the Supreme Headquarters
Allied Powers Europe, site of the talks, said they were to have lasted seven
to 10 days, aiming to work out deployment details such as ``a timeline,
liaison procedures and so on.''

He said the Russians are invited to return this week. In Washington, Pentagon
spokeswoman Maj. Ginger Blazicko said talks are scheduled.

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright took a break from a European vacation
Friday and telephoned her Russian counterpart, Igor Ivanov, a U.S. official
said. The official had no details of the call, but The New York Times said
Albright explained to Ivanov NATO's objections to a full Russian deployment
before all problems with the agreement are settled.

Authorities on both sides of the Atlantic said Russia asked Hungary, Romania
and Bulgaria late last week for corridors through which Ilyushin cargo planes
could fly soldiers to join about 700 Russian troops and technicians already
in Kosovo, a province of the Yugoslav republic Serbia.

After consultation with U.S. and NATO officials, alliance member Hungary and
Romania and Bulgaria, both of which want to join NATO, rejected the requests.

``The nations (involved) have not granted overflight rights, and there is not
an inclination to do so until all arrangements are completed,'' a U.S.
official said. ``We support that inclination.''

Still, news agencies reported in Moscow that two Il-76 aircraft were being
loaded with military hardware and other cargo Saturday in preparation for a
Sunday airlift of about 100 paratroopers, the first of an eventual 2,900
additional troops planned for the Russian contingent. They said another four
Il-76s will fly Monday and Tuesday with 200 more soldiers.

The Russian agencies said Hungary refused overflights, but they did not
mention Bulgaria or Romania. Tanjug, Yugoslavia's government-run agency,
reported from Moscow that all three rejected overflights but ``lively
diplomatic activity is under way.''

The Russians are at Slatina airport near Pristina, Kosovo's provincial
capital. Its first soldiers went there in an unexpected lightning move three
weeks ago from nearby Bosnia, where they were serving with a Western-led
peacekeeping operation.

Lt. Gen. Victor Zavarzin, commander of the push into Kosovo, quickly became a
hero at home and was awarded a third star by President Boris Yeltsin.

In Boston, The Globe reported Saturday that Zavarzin was known to NATO
commanders as a high-ranking spy. On that basis, the newspaper said, Gen.
Wesley Clark, NATO's supreme commander, rejected Russia's nomination of
Zavarzin as the Kremlin's liaison with NATO.

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[CTRL] 13-Yr-Old Goth Gal Arrested -- Felonious Puberty ?

1999-07-03 Thread Das GOAT

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Fla. Girl Charged With Murder Plot

SUNRISE, Fla. (AP) - A 13-year-old girl known to wear dark Gothic clothing is
charged with crafting a scheme to kill classmates and teachers at her middle
school.

The eighth-grader, charged in juvenile court with solicitation to commit
murder, could be held in juvenile custody until her 18th birthday if she is
convicted.

She was arrested June 14, the date she allegedly planned to carry out the
killings. A judge is hearing her case and is expected to issue a verdict in a
few days.

The girl allegedly met with friends three days after the April 20 massacre at
Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., and showed them a map of the
school's security cameras, shared a hit list of nine students and school
personnel, and described a getaway plan involving her boyfriend.

Linda Bartfield, the girl's advanced algebra teacher, testified Friday that
the girl would say: ``I hate this school. I hate you. I hate this class.''

Ms. Bartfield's name allegedly appeared on the hit list.

Kenneth Hassett, the defense attorney, argued that none of the state's
witnesses had seen the girl with weapons or bomb-making materials. And a
16-year-old boy - whom the girl allegedly asked for help in the scheme -
testified ``she didn't ask me to kill no one.''

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[CTRL] Croatia: All in the Family

1999-07-03 Thread Das GOAT

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Croat Leader's Son Heads Spy Group

ZAGREB, Croatia (AP) - Croatia's president appointed his son to head the
nation's intelligence agency, a news report said Saturday, amid U.S. concern
over alleged political abuse by the secret services.

Miroslav Tudjman was named Friday to head the Bureau of Intelligence, the
official Hina news agency said. His appointment follows a series of scandals
that have hit Croatia's intelligence agencies.

Among them, the private weekly Nacional recently published confidential
intelligence documents allegedly revealing widespread tapping of the phones
of journalists, opposition politicians and other public officials.

Meanwhile, the U.S. State Department issued a statement Friday expressing
concern over ``official political use of the security and police services
against the broader society.'' It urged the government to refrain from
attacks on its critics and to strengthen democracy.

Tudjman, 53, previously held the intelligence post for two years but resigned
suddenly for unknown reasons in April 1998.

Critics believe his reappointment indicates his father, President Franjo
Tudjman, is running out of aides he can trust as his public support wanes
ahead of parliamentary elections scheduled for later this year.

Many feel the ruling party is rife with corruption and that senior officials
have abused their posts to enrich themselves and their close relatives.

The younger Tudjman replaces Miroslav Separovic, the man who took the post
after his 1998 resignation.

Separovic resigned earlier this year to protest apparent attempts by the
agency to cover up a banking scandal allegedly involving senior political
officials.

He is now under investigation on suspicion of disclosing confidential
documents to the media. The documents accused the agency of rigging the
national soccer league in favor of a club sponsored by members of the ruling
Democratic Union party.

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[CTRL] Reverse Robin Hood Leaves Prison a Superstar

1999-07-03 Thread Das GOAT

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 "Newspapers reportedly have been vying to get an interview with Leeson
for a six-figure sum, while the movie based on his case, ``Rogue Trader,''
premiered last week in London before a star-studded audience."

British Rogue Banker Leeson Freed

By DEAN VISSER
.c The Associated Press

SINGAPORE (AP) - Rogue trader Nick Leeson walked out of a Singapore prison
Saturday, four years after bringing down Britain's oldest commercial bank and
sending shock waves through Asia's giddy financial world.

Wearing a broad smile, T-shirt and warmup pants, the 32-year-old Briton was
immediately taken to the airport, where security officers whisked him through
passport control and put him on a commercial flight to London.

Leeson spent nearly 3 1/2 years at Tanah Merah prison, convicted of
fraudulently hiding $1.4 billion in losses at Barings Bank.

His unauthorized futures trading made him one of the decade's most notorious
white-collar criminals. The bad deals also led to the 1995 collapse of
Barings and stunned dealers throughout Asia's then-booming markets.

The former trader, whose hair was noticeably thinning, underwent colon cancer
surgery during his prison term, which was reduced by three years because of
good behavior. Prison authorities said his cancer was in remission.

Now the subject of a book and film, Leeson has gained celebrity status. But
his personality remains an enigma, his reputation an odd mix of loutish
bravado and good-natured humility.

Leeson's wife Lisa Sims, 30, campaigned tirelessly after his arrest, trying
to convince Britain and the world that her husband was not a heinous
criminal. She later divorced him, however, after he published his book,
``Rogue Trader,'' revealing details of the couple's sex life.

Leeson, who failed math in high school, pushed his way into the financial
world as a low-salaried clerk for Britain's dignified Coutts and Co. bank in
1985. He moved to U.S. bankers Morgan Stanley in 1987, and then to Barings in
London in 1989.

Four years later, at age 26, he was paid $82,000 a year to toss around
multimillion-dollar blocks of money from Barings' Singapore futures trading
office.

He received huge bonuses, had a lavish apartment in Singapore's glittering
Orchard Road district, and frequented jazz bars popular among Singapore's
affluent expatriates.

After his trading losses were discovered, he fled Singapore but was caught in
Frankfurt, Germany, and brought back to the island republic, where a court
sentenced him to 6 1/2 years in prison.

Leeson begins his new life with tight controls imposed by the High Court in
London. He can't spend any money without giving two days' written notice to
liquidators investigating the collapse of Barings Bank.

He's also can't profit from the film adaptation of his autobiography or
selling his story to the news media. A $700,000 advance for the book has
reportedly gone toward his legal bills.

The court allowed Leeson up to $7,900 per month for living costs, legal fees
and health care. But accountants working for the Singapore-based liquidators
must be given written, advance notice of where the cash has come from and
exactly how it is being spent.

In addition, a Singapore law firm representing liquidators said it plans to
keep investigating whether Leeson has any money hidden away from his Barings
days.

His lawyer, Stephan Pollard, said Leeson would ``certainly get a job as soon
as is practicable'' but cautioned that it would be difficult after spending
time in prison.

Newspapers reportedly have been vying to get an interview with Leeson for a
six-figure sum, while the movie based on his case, ``Rogue Trader,''
premiered last week in London before a star-studded audience.

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[CTRL] Japan -- Don't Drink the Water, Don't Breathe the Air

1999-07-03 Thread Das GOAT

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 First, Belgium, now Japan ...
 How widespread IS the phenomenon of deadly dioxin in the foodchain?


Japan Facing Dioxin Pollution Woes

By MARI YAMAGUCHI
.c The Associated Press

TOKOROZAWA, Japan (AP) - Eiko Kotani keeps her windows closed and runs an air
purifier all day long. She washes her vegetables carefully, peels her
tomatoes and avoids fatty meat, fish from the nearby bay and ice cream of any
flavor.

But she still fears for the health of her family.

Kotani's home in this Tokyo suburb is surrounded by dozens of smokestacks
spewing smelly, gray plumes from burned garbage - smoke that potentially
carries dangerous dioxin.

``We've been forced to breathe in this air,'' she said. ``It's outrageous.''

Pollution from dioxin - a chemical compound linked to cancer, birth defects
and other health problems - has become Japan's latest environmental
obsession. Along with polluting the air, dioxins can seep into the soil and
water, contaminating farm, dairy and fish products.

Though researchers are now just beginning to grasp the scope of the problem,
some scientists believe dioxin pollution in Japan may be the worst in the
world.

Dioxin pollution is closely linked to the burning of trash. Dioxin is often
released when plastics and other wastes that contain chlorine-based chemicals
are burned.

This poses a special problem for Japan, which is a country of incinerators.

Garbage here is burned at 3,840 government-approved incineration facilities,
compared with fewer than 200 in the United States. Part of the reason for all
the incinerators is the lack of space for landfills in the crowded island
nation. Another, environmental groups say, is the failure of the government
to see dioxin contamination as a problem.

Awareness got a major boost in 1997, however, when the city of Kyoto was host
to a global conference on environmental issues. Japan and 37 other countries
promised to cut their combined greenhouse gas emissions - mainly carbon
dioxide - to 5.2 percent below 1990 levels by 2008 to 2012.

Pressure on the government to act has since increased, with heavy coverage of
dioxin-related stories in Japanese news media.

Two recent cases have caused particular concern:

In February, near panic resulted after a television network reported that
high levels of dioxin had been found in ``leafy greens'' from a suburb
northwest of Tokyo. Spinach prices nose-dived, and angry farmers demanded an
apology. The network later said the contamination was of tea leaves.

In March, two former employees at an incinerator in Osaka applied for
workers' compensation after dioxin levels 40 times higher than normal were
found in their blood fat.

Officials have generally tried to calm the public with reassurances that the
contamination is not a dire threat.

At the same time, however, the government is beginning to take more serious
action to curtail it.

In late March, the Cabinet announced it would tighten controls on trash
burning and over the next four years reduce total dioxin emissions by about
90 percent.

In announcing the package, Prime Minister Keizo Obuchi promised the ``utmost
effort to tackle dioxin contamination and meet the public's expectations.''

The government has earmarked $690 million for monitoring and other projects
for the fiscal year that began April 1 and will start conducting soil, water
and air sampling as early as this summer.

Currently, the Health and Welfare Ministry sets the tolerable daily dioxin
intake at 10 picograms per kilogram of body weight, or about 4.5 picograms
per pound. A picogram is one-trillionth of a gram.

But the governing Liberal Democratic Party has proposed legislation to set
the limit at 4 picograms per kilogram, at the upper end of the World Health
Organization's recent proposed level of 1 to 4 picograms.

The government is already claiming some gains in dealing with dioxin
pollution.

A tightening of standards last year prompted the closing of 2,046
incinerators. It is unclear how many of the remaining 3,840 will be forced to
improve or close when the standards are further tightened in 2002, since
nearly 700 have yet to comply with a government request for emissions data.

Some experts criticize the government's actions as too easy on manufacturers.

``Japan's anti-pollution measures have always been designed to protect the
industry instead of the public health,'' said Kazuki Kumamoto, environmental
policy professor at Meiji Gakuin University in Tokyo.

Kumamoto said manufacturers must be made to stop producing materials and
waste that cause pollution to begin with.

``The problems only get worse,'' he said. ``And our offspring will be forced
to pay the price.''

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[CTRL] Gun Pamphlet

1999-07-03 Thread Bob Stokes

 -Caveat Lector-

Subject: Gun Facts Pamphlet

The following fact sheet is designed to be easily formatted for
pamphlet form, on 8-1/2x14 legal-size stock (I use Goldenrod or
Yellow). It can be folded in half, and then in half, again, to
provide a neat 2-sided, 4-paneled pamphlet.

Print this out for friends, family, and your elected officials,
and let them know the facts about gun-owners and their firearms,
NOT just hysterical propaganda!

You can insert your own club or organization's name at the
bottom, in place of the information about LAGR shown below. If
you send an SASE to me at LAGR's PO Box, I will send back a
"master" copy printed out on white legal-size paper, with a blank
space in place of LAGR's contact information, so that you can
insert your own group's contact information.

  PAUL GALLANT

=

GUNS   IN  AMERICA: THE FACTS

   ...what the media WON'T tell you!!

Preventing law-abiding citizens from carrying firearms for
self-defense does not end violent crime - it just makes victims
more vulnerable! Society benefits from ordinary people who accept
the responsibilities of firearm ownership - not from gun-control
laws. Here's why:

SELF-DEFENSE  CRIME

* In 1990, a convicted felon could expect to serve the following
prison time: 1.8 years for murder, 60 days for rape, 23 days for
robbery, 6.7 days for arson, and 6.4 days for aggravated assault.
According to a U.S. Justice Department survey in 17 states, of
felony offenders placed on probation in 1986, 43% were
re-arrested on other felony charges within 3 years of their
release. (1)

*  Passage of the Brady Law in 1994 has NOT been accompanied by a
statistically significant decline in murder or robbery.  It has
been associated with significant increases in rape and aggravated
assaults, presumably from the increased difficulty encountered by
law-abiding citizens in obtaining firearms for self-defense. (2)

 * In 1987, Florida's concealed-carry law went from "may-issue"
to "shall-issue" (also known as "Right-To-Carry", or RTC).  This
meant that issuing authorities must provide a concealed-carry
handgun license to all qualified applicants. Other states
followed suit, and modeled their own RTC laws after Florida's.
On 4/7/98 (the latest date such figures were available),
Florida's Dept of Law Enforcement announced that the state's
murder rate had dropped, again, in 1997, just as it had in each
of the 5 previous years.  The additional drop marked the lowest
murder rate experienced by "Dodge City East" since 1933. (3)

* In 1982, Kennesaw GA (pop. 17,000) passed a law requiring heads
of households to keep at least one firearm in their home,
exempting those with criminal records or religious objections.
Seven months after it took effect, the residential burglary rate
dropped 89%, vs. 10.4%  statewide. Since 1982, only 2 murders
have occurred (1984 and 1989), both committed with knives. (4)

*  Allowing citizens to carry concealed handguns reduces violent
crime. The reduction corresponds very closely to the number of
concealed-handgun licenses issued.  On average, murder rates in
states banning concealed-carry are 127% higher than in states
having the most liberal carry laws.  A 1% increase in firearm
ownership reduces violent crime by 4.1%.  Large, densely
populated urban areas benefit the most from concealed-carry laws.
(5)

* Ordinary, law-abiding Americans use guns defensively 2.5
million times, or more, each year. About 75% of these instances
are with handguns. That translates to rapes prevented, injuries
avoided, medical costs saved, and property protected. (6)

* Firearms provide the safest and most effective means of
resisting violent criminal attack.  For robbery and assault,
resistance by defenders armed with a gun leads to termination of
the incident with the smallest chance of injury to the victim. In
U.S. gov't studies, victims resisting robbery with a gun were
injured 17.4% of the time. Those who did nothing at all were
injured 24.7% of the time. Those who used non-violent resistance,
like trying to run away, were injured 35.9% of the time. Those
who resisted with a knife were injured 40.3% of the time.  For
assault, injury rates were 12.1%, 27.3%, 25.5%, and 29.5%,
respectively.  While 17.4% of those who resisted robbery with a
gun were injured overall, this includes victims who were first
injured before they used their guns; less than 6% of robbery
victims were injured after using a gun to resist. (7)

* Women who carry concealed handguns provide a greater margin of
safety for other women.  While murder rates decline when either
more men or more women carry concealed handguns, the drop is even
greater among women than among men.  Rapists are particularly
susceptible to the deterrence of a potentially armed woman. (5)

* Increased incidents of "road rage" from allowing more citizens
to carry 

[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] [1] Hitler's Priestess Ñ Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism -repost

1999-07-03 Thread John Lee

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Kris, you are a master propagandist, as are most jews.
John Lee

- Original Message -
From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 12:00 AM
Subject: [CTRL] [1] Hitler's Priestess Ñ Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth,
and Neo-Nazism -repost


 -Caveat Lector-

 An excerpt from:
 Hitler's Priestess - Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism
 Nicholas Goodricke-Clarke©1998
 New York University Press
 www.nyupress.nyu.edu
 ISBN 0-8147-3110-4
 -
 Another fine one from, Mr. Goodricke-Clarke.  A sample.
 Om
 K
 -


 INTR0DUCTION

 "Discovered Alive in India: Hitler's Guru!"

 The young German sat on the threadbare sofa listening to the words of the
old
 woman before him. Through windows opening onto a balcony, shafts of
 dust-flecked sunlight shone into the darkened space of her humble,
spartanly
 furnished room. Outside the strange, heady tumult of India resounded in
the
 full glare of the midday heat. All around he could hear the street sounds
and
 raucous, bustling squalor of this back alley in Delhi. Occasionally, her
 narrative was interrupted by the songs of the exotic birds she kept in her
 room and the young man was distracted by the sudden darting movement of
the
 many cats, her inseparable companions, that lay at her feet or dozed out
on
 the balcony in the warm air.

 His attention fixed on the worn and crinkled face of the old woman as she
 carefully chose her words to tell the story of her life. She was dressed
in
 the fashion of Indian women, wearing a loose white sari and a thin cotton
 shift over her shoulders. Soft gray hair framed her high forehead and was
 gathered behind her ears. While her brow was barely lined, her cheeks,
chin,
 and neck blurred in a mass of furrows and wrinkles. Her lips were thin,
and
 her mouth looked twisted, pointing downward at the right side. But it was
her
 eyes that held him. Her eyes burned with a strange luminous quality, the
 light of inner vision and missionary zeal. But he also noticed that the
left
 eye stared with a pained expression, while the right appeared tired and
 liquid, and he remembered with a start that she was now almost blind with
 cataracts.

 The old woman's name was Savitri Devi and the young man had traveled all
the
 way from Frankfurt to find her in this small bare room in old India and to
 hear in her own words the story of her sacred mission for Hitler and
Nazism.
 This elderly and infirm prophetess of Aryan revival, a philosopher of
 Hitler's cosmic purpose and Nazi pilgrim in the ruins of the German Reich
at
 the end of the Second World War, had lived for years in poverty and
obscurity
 in Calcutta and Delhi. Now in November :1978, at the end of a long life
 devoted to the Aryan cause, she had found a new publisher. In late 1982
Ernst
 Zundel, the founder-proprietor of the neo-Nazi Samisdat Publishers in
 Toronto, publicized the availability of a set of five two-hour cassettes
of
 live interviews with Savitri Devi and a brandnew edition of her
out-of-print
 classic The Lightning and the Sun (1958). The notice was mailed worldwide
on
 card flyers and it is worth quoting in its breathless entirety:

 THE HITLER CULT REVEALED. Discovered alive in India: Hitler's guru!
 For serious students of the occult: You can now purchase the complete
 set of tape cassette recorded, live interviews with Hitler guru Savitri
Devi
 at her home in India. Hear in her own words the narration of a prophetic
 pilgrimage along the edge of the cosmic abyss. Watch the clouds of evil
 scatter under the lightning of Cosmic Justice and the sun of Cosmic
 Truth.

 Read her shocking and most recently published manuscript, "The Lightning
and
 the Sun," which exposes the tangled roots of Nazism for all to see.
Discover
 through her the secret Nazi pyramid connection with Pharaoh Akhnaton and
the
 ancient cult of the sun. Learn the real significance of Genghis Khan's
evil
 role in history, his incredible significance in the present. Discover the
 hidden springs of Hitler's manic will to power, his mystical bond with the
 dark forces of time and destiny. Pursue the outlines of evil in its
awesome
 cosmic context.

 Decipher now the encoded workings of the Nazi mind. Perceive how Hitler
saw
 the workings of the universe through: Human sacrifice. Vegetarianism.
 Aryanism. The cyclic view of history. The children of violence. The will
to
 survive and to conquer. The seat of truth. Gods on earth. Kalki, the
avenger.

 Were ancient sanskrit laws of the universe compiled in the Bhagavad Gita
the
 secret source of Nazi strength? The amazing answers to these riddles are
now
 at hand. Read them in "The Lightning and the Sun," Hitler guru Savitri
Devi's
 huge, illustrated 448 page illumination of occult Nazi wisdom and
prophecy.[1]

 The Samisdat publicity was a resounding finale to a long and eventful
life,
 begun early in the century in the beautiful, old walled city of Lyons.

 When I first 

[CTRL] Uneven Trade

1999-07-03 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

From TheEconomist
http://www.economist.com/editorial/freeforall/8-5-
99/index_sf5060.html

 SPECIALAt daggers drawn
 First bananas, now beef, soon genetically modified foods. America
 and Europe are at war over trade   Picture: Related articles
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 Picture: picturePicture: picture creditMoore the merrier
 TRADE relations between America and Europe have rarely been so
 bad. Even as they fight side-by-side against Serbia, they are
 taking aim at each other across the Atlantic. They are embroiled
 in a battle over hormone-treated beef. They are at loggerheads
 over genetically modified crops. They have fallen out over noisy
 aircraft, mobile telephones and data privacy. They are coming to
 blows over aerospace subsidies and champagne. And they have yet
 to patch up their split over bananas.

 True, transatlantic trade tiffs are nothing new. Indeed, some
 friction is perhaps inevitable between the world’s top two
 trading entities, which do trade of around $400 billion a year
 with each other. But this is different. The mood in both
 Washington and Brussels is resentful and uncompromising. Events
 could easily get out of hand. The current conflict is about more
 than just hormones in beef or aircraft noise. It is a battle
 about how far countries are willing to accept constraints on
 domestic policy in sensitive areas such as food safety or
 environmental protection for the sake of free trade.

 Picture: picturePicture: picture creditSuperfluous Supachai
 The battle is putting huge strains on the World Trade
 Organisation. The body that polices world trade cannot function
 properly unless America and Europe accept its writ. But the WTO
 itself is in crisis over its member countries’ inability to agree
 on a new director general. It is now leaderless and fractured;
 supporters of the two rival candidates are engaged in a slanging
 match rather than a search for compromise. The longer this drags
 on, the more its credibility will be undermined.

 The timing of the recent clashes is partly chance. Long-standing
 wrangles over bananas and beef have finally worked their way
 through the WTO’s dispute-settlement mechanism. On April 6th the
 WTO ruled for the third time that the European Union must amend
 its banana-import rules, which discriminate unfairly against
 American fruit distributors. On April 19th the WTO gave America
 the go-ahead to slap retaliatory sanctions against $191m of
 European imports—the first time it has sanctioned such a move.

 The WTO has also ruled that the EU must lift its ban on
 hormone-treated beef by May 13th, because there is no convincing
 scientific evidence that the hormones are dangerous. America is
 planning to impose sanctions on around $300m of European imports,
 mainly foodstuffs and motorcycles, if the EU shows no signs of
 complying with the WTO’s ruling by then. Last week the EU hit
 back with a new report claiming that the hormones could cause
 cancer. It also raised the stakes after hormones were found in
 imports of supposedly hormone-free American beef. It is
 threatening to ban all American beef on June 15th unless America
 can provide watertight guarantees that it is hormone-free.
 Picture: picture

 Last week the Europeans also issued new restrictions on noisy
 aeroplanes that will hit American companies particularly hard,
 although the new rules will not take effect until next year.
 America in turn launched two new WTO cases against the EU. One is
 over subsidies to Airbus, Boeing’s rival in aerospace. The other
 is over EU rules on geographical labels, which prevent, for
 instance, Californian fizzy wines being called champagne.

 But there is more to this than unfortunate coincidence. These
 bust-ups are a consequence of mercantilist policies exacerbated
 by political weakness and the increasingly legalistic nature of
 the WTO. America and Europe (like most countries) tend to see
 trade as a zero-sum game. They aim to pry open markets for their
 exporters while protecting their domestic industries from import
 competition as far as possible. Access to their markets is
 granted only in exchange for access to others’. Such policies are
 wrong-headed, since a country as a whole gains by opening its
 markets unilaterally. But they are pervasive, since industries
 that fear foreign competitors tend to lobby governments harder
 than the disparate millions of consumers who benefit from cheaper
 imports.

 America’s mercantilist urges were once tempered by cold war
 considerations and the liberal convictions of presidents and
 other senior politicians. But cold war reflexes are now all but
 dead and, hemmed in by an increasingly protectionist Congress,
 Bill Clinton’s administration (with the exception of Robert
 Rubin, the Treasury secretary) does not have the stomach or the
 inclination to make a stand for liberal policies. As Sylvia Ostry
 of the University of Toronto puts 

[CTRL] Environmentally friendly underwear

1999-07-03 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

 -Caveat Lector-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

BNN NEWS

PORTLAND, OR - Cicci's, a major U.S. clothing manufacturer has created
the first-ever "environmentally friendly" underwear. This underwear
features
an inner pocket for disposable methane filters. Said Alfredo Cicci,
environmental activist and inventor of the disposable methane filter,
"Vice-President Gore's Campaign against Methane alerted me to the
destructive force of flatulence. I knew something had to be done to stop
the gas or the planet would perish."

Cicci spent 3 years and 4 million dollars selflessly pursing a way to
save the earth. The result of his labor of love is the disposable methane
filter.

Said Cicci, "The concept was fairly simple. It is similar to putting a
filter on an exhaust pipe or smoke stack. We experimented with many
different filtering combinations. Our test subjects would load up on beans
and
then go down to the lab for a 'smog-check'. We wiped out thousands of pairs
of underwear before we finally found the right filter."

Cicci claims that his disposable methane filter can block 99% of the gas
and 50% of the noise associated with human flatulence.

An added feature of the disposable methane filter is its ability to save
marriages. Said Cicci, "We found that men who wear the disposable
methane filter in their underwear are no longer able to gross their wives
out by
farting in bed and then fluffing the covers." Said one woman, whose
husband helped test the filters, "This product is a god-send! There's no
more
smelly blankets, no more lingering gas in the living room, no more "come
here and pull my finger". It's almost like my husband isn't home. I love
this
underwear!"

However, there is down-side to the product. The filter is four inches
thick. Test subjects complained that the filter feels baggy. They also
complained that when they wore the filter people would point and laugh
at them because it looked like they had dropped a load in their pants.

Cicci assured BNN that he is planning to release thinner filters by the
end of next year. Environmentally friendly underwear should hit the stores
in time for the Christmas shopping season. Cicci urges that everyone do
their part to save the planet by purchasing this new and exciting product.



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Re: [CTRL] Uses for BOUNCE Laundry Static Stoppers .....

1999-07-03 Thread S. Benson

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Dear Bill -

There are plenty of humor sites on the net, and there is also quite a lengthy list
of happy homemaker sites too.  Can you please try and post messages to the
Conspiracy Theory Research List that are relevant to the topic of Conspiracy
Theory?  A poor signal to noise ratio will kill a list faster than anything I know
of.

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Re: [CTRL] BLAIR AS HITLER

1999-07-03 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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I don't know if you guys in america etc know this, but, but for the
untimely death of a much respected statesman called John Smith from
Scotland - Tony Blair would have had NO CHANCE of becoming the elected
Prime Minister of the UK.

Smith was the peoples choice.

Unfortunately for lovely John Smith, he was too much of a 'peoples man' and
was in the way of the new world order - so - his unexpected 'heart attack'
happened at dinner one night.

A healthy man, hillwalking in his native scotland in his early 60's, John
would have delivered a traditional 'old labour' agenda with the peoples
interest at heart.
A fatal idea with Tony's roadshow around -

Andrew Hennessey

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Re: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] [1] Hitler's Priestess Ñ Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, a nd Neo-Nazism -repost

1999-07-03 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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At 11:18 AM 7/3/99 -0700, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

Kris, you are a master propagandist, as are most jews.
John Lee

Holocaust Denial isn't allowed on this list,
neither is asshole denial Mr Lee.- though it probably should be.

Andrew Hennessey




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[CTRL] CTRLs LEE alleged agenda discussed

1999-07-03 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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Tonight we got an email at CTRL from Mr Lee who alleged that Kris was
putting forth propoganda.
That got me very very worried - because hard times are ahead and we all
want to know the truth of what is going on.
We all know that people will try to hide the truth - often by rubbishing
the perceived opposition.
For someone to run a mailing list for issuing propoganda - the inference is
that that person has some secret agenda - presumably working for or on
behalf of some governmental agency with an agenda to manipulate and deceive
the minds of the public.
Mr Lee issued a statement tonight that inferred that this list has been
poisoned by biased opinion and lies.
Mr Lee appears to know something that we don't.
Would Mr Lee like to present us with his factual case for such an
accusation against someone I would unreservedly trust ie. Kris

or, is it Mr Lee's failings that have been unreservedly exposed by the truth ?

Andrew Hennessey

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[CTRL] Crop Circle Armagheddon UK ?

1999-07-03 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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News reports in the UK - massive and complex Judaeic and Egyptian symbols
in the corn so immense and complex that an 'army' of hoaxers couldn't have
done them.
Egyptian style sun-god emblem appeared on silbury hill ...
local experts say that the circles just keep getting bigger - 'they are
enormous this year'   Scottish Daily Record tues june 29 1999 p11

At the moment, black helicopters and special teams from the military go
round wiping out the evidence.
Complex mathematical and ethnological symbols connected with ancient
civilisation and the current frontiers of science are sketched on immense
scale over some of the most highly guarded and sensitive land areas in
south england.
Under the croplands are reputed to be Vast Underground cities and military
complexes.

A source said that the military were running scared - they cannot explain
these powers - and recent statements by 'tame' state scientists say that
this phenomenon is 'evil'.

It is more likely however, that the non-human intelligence behind such an
awesome display of power just above the heads of the British Underground
elite is succeeding in scaring the shit out of all the smart asses that
thought they were the 'chosen' and 'apocalypse safe'.

Because if the ETs can do that to the corn - What COULD they do to the
wiring of the life support systems, weaponry and computers below ??? in
paradise.

Teams of anxious military observers drawn to the area 'watch this space' :)

Andrew Hennessey
Transformation Studies Group
EdinburghScotland

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Re: [CTRL] Uneven Trade

1999-07-03 Thread Tenorlove

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Last week the Europeans also issued new restrictions on noisy
aeroplanes that will hit American companies particularly hard

Since quiet airplane is an oxymoron, does this mean Europe will become
a "no-fly zone?"

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Re: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] [1] Hitler's Priestess Ñ Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, a nd Neo-Nazism -repost

1999-07-03 Thread Tenorlove

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ROFLMAO!

--- Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 At 11:18 AM 7/3/99 -0700, you wrote:
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 Kris, you are a master propagandist, as are most jews.
 John Lee

 Holocaust Denial isn't allowed on this list,
 neither is asshole denial Mr Lee.- though it probably should be.

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[CTRL] * What does Independence Day mean to you *

1999-07-03 Thread Bill Richer

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 * What does Independence Day mean to you *


   Hello, Remember me? Some people call me Old Glory, others call me the
Star-Spangled Banner, but whatever they call me, I a your flag, the flag
of the United States of America. Something has been bothing me, so I
thought I might talk it over with you- because it is about you and me.
I remember some time ago, people would  line up on both sides of the
street to watch the prade, and natually I was leading every one, proudly
waving in the breeze.When your daddy saw me coming,he immediately removed
his hat and placed it againist his left shoulder so that his hand was
directly over his heart-remember? And you, I remember , were standing
there, straight as a soldier. You didn't have a hat, but you were giving
the right salute. What  happened ? I'm still the same old flag. Oh I've
added a few more stars since you were a boy , and lot more blood has been
shed since those parades of long ago. But now, I don't feel as proud as I
used to feel. When I come down your street, you stand there with you hands
in your pockets. you may give me a small glance, And the small children
don't seem to know who I am. I saw a man take his hat off, then looked
around didn't see anyone else so he quickly put it back on. Is it a sin to
be patriotic today??? Have you forgotten what I stand for??? and where I
have been Guadalcanal, Korea and Vietnam!!!
Take a look at the memorial honors and see the names of those Americans
who gave their lives to keep us free. When you salute me you are saluting
them.. Well it won't be lone till I'll come down your
street again so when you see me place your hand over your heart and I
will salute you by waving back!


   H A P P Y
4 T H   O F   J U L Y
  E V E R Y O N E

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[CTRL] Kennedy through Bush documents released

1999-07-03 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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WASHINGTON, July 1 (UPI) -- The National Security Council has decided
to declassify 1,624 previously secret historical documents from the
Kennedy through Bush administrations.
The documents -- policy directives and memorandums between the
presidents and their national security advisers -- will be listed on the
NSC's Web site, but anyone interested in reading them will have to
contact the appropriate presidential libraries. Not all the documents
have been fully declassified and released yet.
According to the White House, the documents ``provided guidance to
the appropriate agencies and departments for the execution and
formulation of national security policy. For the 1961-1993 time period,
the documents comprise the most important record of the national
security policies of the United States.''
No similar set of documents exists for the earlier Truman and
Eisenhower administrations, the NSC reports.
The NSC Web site is (www.whitehouse.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/html/historical/).
--
"Those who want to hear the voice of pagan gods in wind or thunder, who
want to see the fairies dance in the moonlight, who can believe that
faith can move mountains, can follow the thread on the pages of this
book. It is a fragile thread; it cannot bear the weight of facts and
dates"
-Kate Seredy, "The White Stag"
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Re: [CTRL] CTRLs LEE alleged agenda discussed

1999-07-03 Thread John Lee

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Andrew,
Seems we meet again. This time, you want proof of what I say.
Would you settle for words from "THE HORSES MOUTH" instead of mine?
But first, let me say one thing. This list does not allow anti-Semitic
statements or Holocaust denials. Am I correct? With that in mind, I am not
Anti-Semitic; I like Arabs just fine. I do not much care for people that
claim to be Jewish and are not. Those that choose to call themselves "Jews"
today, are no more Jewish than a Billy Goat can claim to be a Horse. The
Jewish author, Arthur Koelster, in his Thirteenth Tribe goes to great length
to explain this FACT. That YOU, SIR, do not believe him, is not my problem.
As for the Holocaust, there are doubts about the number of Jewish dead.
I have no doubt that Jews died in WWII; the how, where  and number is
confusing to me, since, it seems, the only ones that benefit from death just
happens to be Jews; Israel receives 3-4 billion dollars a year from America
for this Holocaust, even though Americans did not do it if it was done at
all.
Andrew, are YOU the list master? If not, then you have no bitch with me.
If you are, then remove me. Just remember, truth will rule eventually, and
either you or me will have more egg on our face than we can ever remove.
With that in mind, I offer you a couple of articles I've come across in
my studies.
John Lee
-***
***
Number 1:

"A REAL CASE AGAINST THE JEWS"

by MARCUS ELI RAVAGE


The following article, "A REAL CASE AGAINST THE JEWS", was written by Marcus
Eli Ravage, a JEWISH writer who "worshipped at the feet of the Rothschilds
(the Jewish bankers) as their approved biographer." It appeared in THE
CENTURY MAGAZINE, JANUARY 1928. This is an exact transcription. Look it up
at any major library if you doubt its existence or contents. Read it
carefully and you will understand why we choose to print this here.


---Of
course, you do resent us. It is no good telling me you don t. So let us not
waste any time on denials and alibis. You know you do, and I know it, and we
understand each other. To be sure, some of your best friends are Jews, and
all that. I have heard that before once or twice, I think. And I know, too,
that you do not include me personally - "me" being any particular individual
Jew - when you fling out at us in your wholesale fashion, because I am,
well, so different, don t you know, almost as good as one of yourselves.
That little exemption does not, somehow, move me to gratitude; but never
mind that now. It is the aggressive, climbing, pushing, materialistic sort
you dislike - those, in a word, who remind you so much of your own
up-and-coming brethren. We understand each other perfectly. I don t hold it
against you.

Bless my soul, I do not blame anybody for disliking anybody. The thing that
intrigues me about this anti-Jewish business, as you play at it, is your
total lack of grit. You are so indirect and roundabout with it, you make
such transparent excuses, you seem to be suffering from self-consciousness
so horribly, that if the performance were not grotesque, it would be
irritating.

It is not as if you were amateurs: you have been at it for over fifteen
centuries. Yet watching you and hearing your childish pretexts, one might
get the impression that you did not know yourselves what it is all about.
You resent us, but you can not clearly say why. You think up a new excuse -
a reason is what you call it - every other day. You have been piling up
justifications for yourselves these many hundreds of years and each new
invention is more laughable than the last and each new excuse contradicts
and annihilates the last.

Not so many years ago I used to hear that we were money-grubbers and
commercial materialists; now the complaint is being whispered around that no
art and no profession is safe against Jewish invasion.

We are, if you are to be believed, at once clannish and exclusive and
unassimilable because we won t intermarry with you, and we are also climbers
and pushers and a menace to your racial integrity.

Our standard of living is so low that we create your slums and sweated
industries, and so high that we crowd you out of your best residential
sections.

We shirk our patriotic duty in wartime because we are pacifists by nature
and tradition, and we are the arch-plotters of universal wars and the chief
beneficiaries of those wars (see the late Dearborn Independent passim, and
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ).

We are at once the founders and leading adherents of capitalism and the
chief perpetrators of the rebellion against capitalism.

Surely, history has nothing like us for versatility!

And, oh! I almost forgot the reason of reasons. We are the stiff-necked
people who never accepted Christianity, and we are the criminal people who
crucified its founder.

But I can 

Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say

1999-07-03 Thread Howard R. Davis III

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Mr. Lee:
   If one makes an assertion of a historical fact and is challanged by
another to show the basis of that assertion the providing of a long list of
books to research, it should surprize no one that the person questioning the
truth of that assertion remains unconvinced. Whether or not you are correct
certainly interests me. However, I would hope that if, in fact, you have any
truth to contribute to this forum, that you will provide more basis to your
assertions than lists of books.
   As one who has, in fact, tried to verify through my own research some of
the claims of those who rever Hitler, I feel that I have, in fact, done
sufficient research to understand where you are coming from. I spent several
months studying the claims of those who deny that the Nazis used gas
chambers to kill masses of Jewish (and other) people. I studied especially
the claims of David Irving and the Lectner report. In doing so, my
understanding of the Hitler phenomana was greatly deepened. Exposure to the
arguements of various "deniers" eventually convinced me that this whole
thing was not a question of rationality, but of spirituality. Though
previously I had little belief in demon possession, I eventually came to the
realization that those who have embraced these beliefs have done so for
reasons beyond any explanable by the use of logic. Exposure to the rituals
of the SS and the occult basis of the Hitlerian philosophy has convinced me
that those who have come under his sway are possessed by some sort of evil
which I had not before understood to be possible. I pity them and you.

Howard Davis

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From: John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
Date: Fri, Jun 25, 1999, 4:43 AM


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 Dear Mr. Davis,
 Like I said, I'll not do your research for you. Read Mullins on the
 Federal Reserve; Red Fog Over America by Carr;  Iron Curtain Over America by
 Beaty; Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Mullins; On The Horns of the Beast
 by Still; Pawns In The game by Carr; The Empire Of The City by Knuth; You
 Gentiles by Samuel, for starters.
 The German Central Bank before Hitler was a private bank as is our own
 Fed Res Bank. Hitler changed that. I'm not sure how Hitler traded with other
 countries. It may have been barter or it may have been gold and silver or
 other precious metals or stones. It is not necessary to be on a gold
 standard to use gold as a medium of exchange. Any "standard" merely
 guarantees there is enough of something that has a set value everyone agrees
 to that sets the value of exchange between nations or other entities. It
 could be salt, for that matter, or any other commodity suitable to all
 involved, thus a guaranteed standard of exchange exists.
 Hitler's, Lincoln's and Kennedy's treasury bills drew no interest for
 Bankers and, in my opinion, got these three killed. Also, bankers were not
 able to use the fractional reserve to increase their profits by margin of
 10.
 Now then, I do not know everything about the area of history of which we
 speak. I do, however, know enough to believe Hitler was not what he is being
 propagandized as today. Agree or not, it doesn't matter to me.
 John Lee

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 From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts
 say


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  John Lee wrote:

  Mr. Davis,
  The difference between Hitler's "money" and Roosevelt's "money" is
  considerable. German currency was state owned and issued, based upon the
  assets and production of the nation, whereas Roosevelt's was from the
  Federal Reserve, a privately owned national bank, as it still is today.
 All
  money used in America and the world today is borrowed from some private
  bank.

 I am quite familiar with your basic thesis concerning the operation of
 central banks. However, you state the the German currency was state owned
 and issued and apparently not borrowed as is normal policy in the central
 bank system. This would as you suggested be similar to Lincoln's policy of
 issueing "greenbacks" which were neither borrowed or backed by specie.
 And,
 it would also be similar to what JFK did when he issued several hundred
 million dollars in Treasury notes not long before he was killed. However,
 I
 have never heard this assertion made previously and would like to know
 where
 you got this information and whether or not it is true. The Federal
 Reserve
 bank of the US was paterned after that of Germany's and one of the Warburg
 brothers ran it while the other pushed for the adoption of the system in
 the
 US. So, apparently they did have that system previous to Hitler's coming
 to
 power in 1933. If Hitler did end the central reserve banking system in
 Germany then that certainly would be a reason for certain of the