[CTRL] U.S. spraying Chem-trails over Panama NOW. Chinese in target path!!!!]
-Caveat Lector- Alan DeWalton wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: U.S. spraying Chem-trails over Panama NOW. Chinese in target path Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:24:06 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 25 18:30:31 1999 Received: from [198.81.17.5] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id MHotMailB98DE3B30074D82197BCC65111050F7D0; Wed Aug 25 18:30:31 1999 Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 9WVMa07454 (4511) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 (sent to USCMike1's 32,169+ readers - please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups - thanks) Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: Clinton NOT concerned with Chinese in Panama? Here's why!! Maybe that is why Clinton is not too worried about the Chinese Communists taking over the Panama Canal??? Because he plans on wiping them out along with everyone else??? USCMike1 Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Profr. Jerome Steiner A.) for this personal eyewitness account of U.S. Military Chemtrail spraying in the Republic of Panama. In a message dated 8/24/99 9:29:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: U.S. Air Force NOW spraying Biological agents over Canada . . .people sickened? Date: 8/24/99 9:29:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Profr. Jerome Steiner A.) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [re: U.S. Air Force spraying Biological agents over Canada] Mike: This doesn't surprise me at all. I have observed on two occasions here in the Republic of Panama the complimentary U.S. airborne dispersion via "dense, long lingering, contrails" of gw testing. These deliveries were followed by nationwide epidemics of respiratory illness of undetermined "flu strains" through out Panama. Many thousands affected, though death toll attributed to mystery epidemic here was low. I felt the effects to, but, have been on a regimen of doxicyclin for some time, re: Cfids derived from vaccines. So, I did not contract test bug. The effect in RP was not like in the U.K. where they had @ 6,000 deaths some attribute to contrail incidents. Reason I am so cock sure of R.P. applications is the flight path was West to East directly over Panama's long national axis which also is E-W oriented. Directly overhead where I am at is dead center in the middle of the country. There is the perfect path to reach the max number of Panama's "beneficiaries" indigenous people with the Ft. Dietrich's chemical coctails. I sure wish I had a shoulder delivered stinger to tag the bastards with. I can feel the heat up north where you are at from down here. Keep looking up, my friend, but always cover you back. I recommend the Lord, God of Israel for that. Read Isaiah 52:12 and 58:8 to experience this. Warm regards from south of your border, Atentamente, jerome steiner allen ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/theeagle-l http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: Patriots' Protests cause temporary cessession of CHEM-TRAILS but nowbegin again]
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - SNETNEWS Mailing List (sent to USCMik1e's 32,127+ readers - please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups - thanks) Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Amirault) for following up on the Air Force Chemtrail spraying of Biological warfare against us citizens. Seems like we CAN'T get Clinton to stop poisoning us similarly to Saddam Hussein wiping out hundreds of thousands of his own subjects (citizens). Is it about time we turned the tables on them and did a little retributionary spraying upon these evil puppets ourselves? Comments and suggestions welcome! Volunteers gratefully accepted and trained free Anti-NBC* HAZMAT suits supplied free!!! Cover, backup, support, supplies furnished along with Constitutional Patriot Sanctuary. * NBC = Federal and U.S. Military jargon for Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical warfare and weapons of mass destruction as to be perpetrated (per Treasonous Clinton) by international and domestic terrorists against U.S. citizens, Patriots, Constitutional Civilian Militia, Fundamentalist and Born Again Christians, home schoolers, anti-abortionists, anti-big government, Pro-Constitutionalists, etc. USCMike1 In a message dated 8/25/99 7:48:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: U.S. Air Force NOW spraying Biological agents over Canada . . . peoplesickened? Date: 8/25/99 7:48:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Amirault) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike, Thank you for the email about the chemtrails story. After discovering the story in early June, I posted a report about it on July 5 at A HREF="http://www.tiac.net/users/tobya/ciaindex.html"The Christian Intelligence Advisory/A. For a few weeks, the spraying stopped in the Boston area. However, the spraying has started up again. Beginning the week of 8/16, the spraying began as follows: typically, planes would lay trails roughly an hour before sunset, and only in abbreviated "trails," to make them more resemble clouds. By the time the sun set, it was extremely difficult to identify them as chemtrails. However, in the last few days, the spraying has intensified, and yesterday, 8/24, I identified trails being laid-though not heavily-throughout the day. I work in downtown Boston, only a few miles from Logan airport, in a building that allows me an unobstructed, 360-degree view of the skies. I think those of us who realize what's going and are in the position to influence others need to organize a rally in Washington, D.C. or a major city soon. I have organized nationally covered rallies before and we need to speak out more vocally on this incredible madness. Educating the public is easy on this one, because the trails are so easily identifiable, and people who are getting sick are making the connection. Also, I am working with a group of nationally known journalists to create an investigative news show to pitch to Fox, which WorldNetDaily and others are going to promote heavily, so stories like these are gaining visibility. This story is really a staggering testament to how desperately far gone this country is, isn't it. Your Brother in Christ, Andrew - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Did Bill Clinton Overdose on Cocaine? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/8/25/161649 With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Wednesday August 25, 5:08 PM Did Bill Clinton Overdose on Cocaine? Now that the press has raised the "coke" question in their dogged pursuit of George W., questions about Bill Clinton's drug past are also fair game. One area of inquiry for the news hounds at, let's say, the Washington Post, might be an incident that supposedly taken place in the early 1980's when Bill Clinton was governor of the state of Arkansas. Dr. Sam Houston, a respected Little Rock physician and once a doctor for Hillary's cantankerous father, Hugh Rodham, says it is well known in Little Rock medical circles that Clinton was brought to a Little Rock hospital for emergency treatment for an apparent cocaine overdose. According to Houston, who told us he spoke to someone intimately familiar with the details of what happened that night, Clinton arrived at the hospital with the aid of a state trooper. Hillary Clinton had been notified by phone and had instructed the hospital staff that Clinton's personal physician would be arriving soon. When Mrs. Clinton arrived, she told both of the resident physicians on duty that night that they would never practice medicine in the United States if word leaked out about Clinton's drug problem. Reportedly, she pinned one of the doctors up against the wall, both hands pressed against his shoulders, as she gave her dire warning. Like most tales that reflect poorly on Bill Clinton, the press has ignored any inquiry into this one. In 1996, however, columnist R. Emmett Tyrrell located and telelphoned one of the nurses who had been on duty the night Bill Clinton was brought into the emergency room. According to Tyrrell, the nurse didn't deny the story, but said she couldn't talk about it because she could lose her job. Weclome to Arkansas! * * * * = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Weird World Of Vince Foster -- Buddy Me on Public TV (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:15:10 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Weird World Of Vince Foster -- Buddy Me on Public TV I was invited down to KERA-TV tonight (one of the two area PBS stations) to be part of a show on Y2K. I had been a questioner during the previous Y2K show in this series about 18 months ago and I guess they decided to have me back for this show. [Warning -- Sprunt "buries the lead" in this post, exactly as usual!] There was a formal panel of four (one of whom I had done some work for years ago -- I didn't know he was going to be on the panel) and then there was a second group of people who questioned the four penalists or made comments about what the panelists had said on the air (actually, the show was taped and will air sometime in October -- apparently it will be picked up by a number of US PBS stations) when invited to do so by Dennis McCuistion the host/producer (I've known Dennis and his wife Nikki for some years -- very good folks -- they have a PBS-TV series out of Dallas/Dentor -- KERA/KDTN public TV stations in this area). OK, so far, so good. No surprises. During the show, I asked the regional head of the FDIC a question and he confirmed I was correct in my belief (he then explained why it didn't make any difference that I was right: The question: Isn't it true that under the statutes and regulations goverening banks and SLs -- FDIC/FSLIC -- that the monthly statement mailed to a savings or checking account holder carries NO weight re "proving up" the amount in one's account on the statement date? The Amazing, IMHO Answer, which the FDIC confirmed on the show: Yes, but . . .). Guess who turned out to be the person in my group of commenters/questioners who was seated to my left (closet to me, but separated by a few feet)? Buddy Young, Clinton's security man when Clinton was Governor and, as many of you know, the Regional Director of FEMA for our region of the US (there are ten FEMA regions across the US and Buddy Young was there in his official capacity). We did not get a chance to interact before the show since I didn't notice he was there sitting a few feet from me and (I assume!) he didn't know I was there either (we had not "met" until tonight). The fun part came during the rolling of the credits (we're on the air -- or on the tape -- but I don't think you can hear anything Dennis or anyone else was saying since the show just asks the audience to hold still while the camera is on the audience and the group of questioners/commenters during the 45 seconds or so the credits are rolling). Anyway, during the credit roll, Dennis is talking to the panel, the audience, and the sub-group I was in -- just killing time while we're on camera just before the end of the show, and Dennis says: well, we didn't get to hear much from Hugh Sprunt tonight, but he is a man who knows a lot of about Y2K and a lot about many other things too (this is close to what Dennis said, but not a quote). . . In fact, Hugh is one of the experts on the death of Vince Foster and right over here we have Buddy Young who was Governor Clinton's Chief of Security (which everyone knew since Dennis had commented on Buddy Young's Clinton affliation while asking him re FEMA and Y2K). I imagine you two have heard of each other . . . (again, this is the gist, not a quote of what Dennis said). I didn't say anything -- unusual for me as those who know me will attest! -- but Buddy Young replied -- loud enough for Dennis, me, and everyone else there to hear, something like: oh yeah, I know him. . . (or maybe: I know about/of him or some such. didn't get the exact wording). After the credits, several people in the audience come up to me to say hi (the one panelist whom I knew, another person -- he knew Chris Ruddy -- and some folks who want to talk about or ask me about Y2K). Anyway, for two-three minutes, I see Buddy Young hanging at the back of this little group like he has a few words he wants to tell me (I've never written any articles that mention Buddy Young, mostly because there is nothing in the official record that particularly links him to the Foster death or the surrounding events). . . I made quick eye contact with him and vice versa, but the folks who were queued up to chat with me meant that he would have either had have pushed through them to get to me right away (or vice versa). Anyway, I finished up chatting in turn with these three or four folks, but before I could get finished, Buddy Young had left. I assume (though I can't be sure) that he had a comment or two for me a propos of Dennis McCuisition's little informal comments to the audience about us during the credit roll, but I don't know for sure. Anyway, stranger than fiction. . . (The whole thing was completely unanticipated by yours truly.) When I left the station (walking out with a professor who was one of the formal panelists) I looked around (hum) for Buddy Young, but didn't see him in
[CTRL] State Corruption Follies -- Massachusetts
-Caveat Lector- Bared Breasts Launch Mass. Scandal By LESLIE MILLER .c The Associated Press BOSTON (AP) - It was smooth sailing for Gov. Paul Cellucci's administration until a stunt actress named Gidget bared her breasts to a newspaper photographer while aboard a taxpayer-funded booze cruise. The raised tank top opened a Pandora's box of daily allegations ranging from cronyism to abuse of power to uncontrolled spending within the Cellucci administration. Reports surfaced Wednesday that a recent Cellucci appointee had approved a state contract for his recently disbarred divorce lawyer, and another appointee had been found to have sexually harassed an underling. Cellucci said Wednesday he is undisturbed by all the turmoil in his administration. ``We've got over 60,000 people working for us,'' he said. ``So will there be problems occasionally? Sure. It's our job to deal with those problems. That's what we're doing.'' The troubles began on Aug. 17, with a boozy Boston Harbor cruise chartered by Massachusetts Port Authority director Peter Blute, a former congressman. He was accompanied by a controversial GOP fund-raiser and a number of young women, including Gidget Churchill, who lifted her top after spotting a Boston Herald photographer waiting on shore. ``That was a bad thing to do,'' Cellucci said after returning from a Florida vacation Saturday, looking tanned but not particularly rested. Blute resigned hours after the booze cruise photos hit newsstands, but that was just the beginning. On Friday, David Shagoury, chief of staff for state Economic Development Director Carolyn Boviard, resigned amid allegations that he and Ms. Boviard were having an affair. The 33-year-old Shagoury - immediately nicknamed ``Shagadelic'' by a local columnist - had reportedly threatened to punish employees who gossiped about the alleged affair, which Ms. Boviard, 44, denies. The same day, Nancy ``Hasty'' Evans quit her job as planning director for the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. The Republican appointee said she could no longer tolerate cost overruns that ran into hundreds of millions of dollars. On Tuesday, Cellucci appointed his chief of staff, 33-year-old Virginia Buckingham, to the top Massport post, immediately drawing criticism that Ms. Buckingham is far from qualified for the position. He was also criticized for his choice of replacement for Ms. Buckingham as chief of staff - Stephen O'Neill, a Cellucci aide who had been his driver as recently as 1991. ``They've always got a shortage of qualified Republicans, but they're reaching down really low,'' said Dan Payne, a Democratic consultant. ``Cellucci has not distinguished himself with strong people around him. There are no adults he can turn to and say, `Get this class in order'.'' Corruption is nothing new in Massachusetts and certainly not limited to Republicans, said John Sears, a Republican political consultant. ``Massachusetts' congressional delegation has a couple of very black eyes from its own past that might be deemed more serious than booze cruises or love affairs in the office,'' said Sears, referring to the Chappaquiddick tragedy that doomed Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's shot at the presidency and Rep. Barney Frank's admission he improperly used his congressional office to aid a male prostitute. Nevertheless, gleeful Democrats say they've seen the scandals coming for a long, long, time - ever since Republican Gov. William Weld strayed from his campaign promise in 1990 not to hire any political hacks, or ``walruses,'' as he called them. Six years later, it was revealed Weld's patronage appointees called themselves the ``walrus club,'' and the administration kept a priority list of job candidates who had supported Weld or the GOP. Cellucci had been Weld's lieutenant governor until July 1997, when he became acting governor after Weld resigned for an unsuccessful pursuit of the ambassadorship to Mexico. ``There is no one in the business of politics in Massachusetts, Republican, Democrat, Independent, reporter, official or independent observer, who was surprised by this,'' said Michael Goldman, a Democratic political consultant. ``Fairly or unfairly, they've had such a good run, and now it's turned. That's the way it works in this business.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Russia/China vs. NWO
-Caveat Lector- Russia, China Seek Closer Alliance By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV .c The Associated Press BISHKEK, Kyrgyzstan (AP) - Boris Yeltsin met with Chinese President Jiang Zemin on Wednesday and the two leaders signaled their desire to forge a closer alliance to counterbalance U.S. global clout. The Russian president and Jiang met for one-on-one talks before taking part in a five-nation summit in Kyrgyzstan, a former Soviet state in central Asia. The summit's goal was to improve stability along China's lengthy border with Russia and three former Soviet republics: Kyrgyzstan, Kazakstan and Tajikistan. After tension between Moscow and Beijing during the Cold War, relations have warmed considerably in this decade, and the leaders of the two countries meet regularly. Moscow has made it clear it wants better ties in Asia since NATO's airstrikes against Yugoslavia this spring, which Russia staunchly opposed. ``The current summit is taking place in conditions of an aggravated international situation,'' Yeltsin said. ``Some nations are trying to build a world order that would be convenient only for them, ignoring that the world is multi-polar.'' Jiang made similar remarks in his speech. ``The process of forming a multi-polar world is difficult, but it has become an irreversible trend,'' he said. Jiang did not mention the United States by name, but he appeared to refer to Washington when he said there was a ``new display of hegemony relying on force, and it has already drawn concern on the international scene.'' Russia and China had a falling-out in the late 1950s, but after the Soviet collapse relations between the two countries have improved considerably. China has become one of Russia's major trading partners and is a top client for its ailing military industry, purchasing billions of dollars worth of jets, missiles and submarines. ``The meeting between Boris Yeltsin and Jiang Zemin took place in a very warm and friendly atmosphere,'' said Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov. ``Our relations are now at a peak and that meets the interests of both nations as well as the interests of regional and international stability.'' The five-nation summit was the fourth such meeting since April 1996, when the leaders first met in Shanghai and agreed on a series of confidence-building measures along the border. ``Russia has strategic interests in maintaining stability and security in Asia,'' Yeltsin said. ``We would like to see this region developing good neighborly links.'' The five leaders signed an agreement to cooperate on fighting crime and drug trafficking across their borders. Under previous agreements, the countries have reduced troop levels and limited military activity along their borders. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Drug Traffickers Fly the Friendly Skies
-Caveat Lector- Colombians, Airline Ring Said Tied By JARED KOTLER .c The Associated Press BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) - Ten Colombians arrested over the weekend in Cali used American Airlines flights to smuggle more than a half ton of heroin and cocaine to Miami, a state security official said Wednesday. Cleotilde Moreno, an aide to the state security agency's chief of investigations, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that an airline maintenance company got the drugs aboard the American Airlines planes. The U.S. airline has one flight daily to Miami from Cali. There was no immediate indication that the arrests were connected to a sting operation in the United States involving dozens of American Airlines employees and contract workers. They were arrested Tuesday on cocaine and marijuana smuggling charges. American Airlines officials could not immediately be reached for comment on the Cali-based smuggling ring. According to the DAS security agency, the Cali traffickers worked through the maintenance company, Aercol, and smuggled more than a half ton of heroin to the United States. DAS spokesman Efrain Marin said the group occasionally smuggled cocaine, but opted generally for heroin, which is harder to detect and more lucrative. Mechanics hid the drugs in the tail sections, behind the pilots' seats and in technical compartments. Once in Miami, the heroin was received by a man whose identity DAS provided to U.S. authorities, the Colombian agency said. A respected foreign carrier was used ``because its planes are not subjected to as rigorous inspections as occurs with (Colombian) airlines.'' DAS said in a statement. Moreno said the security agency had been investigating the heroin ring for seven months, and believes it had been operating for two years. It's alleged leader, Simeon Gomez, is one of the men arrested Sunday. Colombia is the source of more than 80 percent of the world's cocaine and a growing share of heroin. Three-quarters of the heroin seized on the East Coast originates in this Andean nation, U.S. officials say. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Purge of Politicians in China
-Caveat Lector- Report: China Officials Jailed SHANGHAI, China (AP) - A former local Communist Party leader in southern China has been jailed for financial mismanagement and two other officials were imprisoned for corruption, the state Xinhua News Agency reported Wednesday. The announcement came a week after the communist government acknowledged that officials have stolen or wasted more than $14 billion in the first half of 1999. Kuang Reng, party secretary of the city of Enping in Guangdong province in 1990-94, enacted policies that drove up local debts and led to problems for banks and local companies, Xinhua said without giving details. He was sentenced to four years on charges of neglect of duty. There was no indication that Kuang took money for himself, but China is increasingly trying to stop officials from squandering public money. The party newspaper People's Daily said Aug. 17 that agencies this year had mismanaged or stolen money from pension funds, flood control projects and other accounts. In June, China's auditor general issued a critical report accusing ministries of wasting money on lavish offices, travel and other expenses. The amount that the People's Daily reported stolen or wasted was equal to nearly one-fifth of total central government revenue of $66 billion last year. Two other Guangdong officials were reportedly sentenced to 13-year prison terms on corruption charges. Zheng Wang, former chairman of the Jiangmen International Trust Group Co., was convicted of illegally obtaining $34,000, Xinhua said without giving further details. Zhang Fengding, head of Sanbu Health Inspection and Quarantine Bureau, was convicted of embezzling $78,500, which he spent on gambling and mistresses, the report said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Local Control -- Regimentation and Conformity
-Caveat Lector- How like America: The sins of the parents are taken out --"preventively"-- on their children ... "Hey! / Leave those kids alone!" Adults may try and resist "1984," but no matter -- the younger generation is being raised --by the SAME folks, ironically-- to accept Orwellian conditions as NORMAL.. Ark. Schools Try Uniform Experiment By KRISTEN EVERETT .c The Associated Press PINE BLUFF, Ark. (AP) - Keeping track of students in the Watson Chapel School District is a snap this term: All their clothes are color-coded. Elementary students are wearing khaki or blue slacks and white, blue or burgundy polo-style shirts. High schoolers wear white, hunter green or burgundy shirts. Casey Mounts, a 5-year-old kindergartner at Edgewood Elementary, wore navy shorts and a baby blue shirt - blue is her favorite color - when her mom picked her up Monday. ``We had our doubts at first,'' Christie Mounts said. ``It sounded like it was cutting down on individualism. Once they got them and tried them on they looked really cute.'' Other schools could follow the district's lead. The Legislature has asked all Arkansas public schools to look into whether uniforms would suit their needs. Referenda would be put on school election ballots next year. ``The idea behind the law was mainly to get the school boards to deal with the issue,'' said Kevin Smith, a state representative from Stuttgart. ``It's gotten a lot of attention because of the shooting at Columbine and the trenchcoats.'' Two students gunned down 12 schoolmates and a teacher before killing themselves April 20 at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo. The gunmen were said to be members of a group that wore dark trenchcoats. The 3,500-student, five-school Watson Chapel district had hoped to reduce school violence by relying on fences, teacher supervision and a city-provided police officer. Now, many think uniforms also can help: Parents say it's easier to dress their kids, children say it eliminates competition and administrators hope it leads to a more orderly setting. Decked out in wrinkle-free khaki shorts and a tucked-in white polo shirt, 10-year-old Michael Dial said he felt comfortable - and anonymous. ``Everybody almost looks the same and people don't talk about you. I could go to church in these,'' he said. Only hats, which are still allowed, set some children apart. The Arkansas School Boards Association is neutral on the colors. ``It's an issue of local control. It best works when it's thoughtfully planned out by all parties involved - students, teachers, administrators, and parents,'' said spokesman John Pennington. Troy Lowe, principal of Jacksonville Middle School, said parents have been supportive of the new policy, although some complain finding clothes in the right color and size has been difficult. District Superintendent Danny Knight said he talked with one mother who outfitted her two children with three outfits each for a total of $200. Local charities also have helped. ``We think it will cut down on any kind of status symbol,'' Lowe said, adding that his middle schoolers ``seem to be a little quieter and maybe the uniforms have helped.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] more on Wackenhut (pt. 1)
-Caveat Lector- Interesting fact on Wackenhut. They have only ONE office in Germany, France or Japan. Large industrial countries. Wackenhut has 12 OFFICES IN Colombia and 6 in Ecuador. This points to a cocaine interest. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Geraldo on Drug War 26AUG MSNBC
-Caveat Lector- I happened to see most of the program tonight (WED25AUG) on MSNBC by Geraldo Rivera about the various factors of the Drug War and I wanted to congratulate him, NBC, and MSNBC for this fine program and its insightful, compassionate, considerate, and critical review of the various issues involved. I am not sure I have the right email address for Geraldo so I hope you can forward this to him and your other news programs assignment editors for an important new breaking story on this issue. May I suggest that the next step in expanding the coverage on this very important topic is to do a piece on the CIA involvement in protecting the bulk of the drug trade as acknowledged for its period covered by the still to be released CIA IG report volume2 being held quietly in Congress because it implicates major political figures in both parties, including, according to the documentation of former LAPD narcotics officer and now editor of From The Wilderness newsletter Michael Ruppert, both President Clinton and former President Bush, in this still ongoing 50year+ apparently "official rogue" government/criminal campaign to fund covert operations and provide low cost laundered capital to prop up the stock market and political campaigns while targeting African American populations as is the subject of pending class action lawsuit filed 15MAR99 (Ides of March) against CIA and DoJ by South Central Los Angeles and Oakland California residents with the support of a unanimous resolution of Oakland City Council (former CA Governor and US Presidential candidate Jerry Brown, Mayor). This story is about to break mainstream big time as Ruppert has been on many radio stations in the last few days in part because of videotape evidence that he is aware of regarding a DEA sting operation in 1985 that recorded multi-kilo cocaine buy by George W. Bush and his brother Jeb. I hope that NBC/MSNBC will get a scoop on this via your outlets and contact Ruppert who lives in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles. I have sent you two posts this week already on this DEA sting tape info. For details see http://www.copvcia.com Michael Ruppert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks very much for your fine news coverage of this topic, David Crockett Williams General Agency Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Global Emergency Alert Response http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Local Control -- Regimentation and Conformity
-Caveat Lector- My Mother told me a few months ago that many schools in Houston now wear uniforms to school. I remember when I was in high school we staged a protest about dress codes and we all wore t-shirts, sandals, and cutoffs on senior day. Times haven't changed, but people sure have. Bob Stokes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NATO
At the height of the Clinton Impeachment frenzy, David Rockefeller introduced and sponsored a Clinton speech at the Council on Foreign Relations. Clearly a signal to all those beholding to the Rockefeller array of Corporate/Banking/Foundation interests to oppose the impeachment. This was at the same time that leading newspapers accross the country were advocating resignation on their editorial pages. The Rothschilds, on the other hand, as leaders of the Queen's Empire of the City of London financial nexus, were supporting the attacks on Clinton. Remember that, as noticed by Hilary Clinton and others, the ammunition for the vast Right-wing conspiracy was usually first aired in London publications, many controlled by the Rothshilds. Evelyn Rothschild is head of the Economist, for instance. The Rockefeller patronage of Clinton at the CFR has been widely reported, but I would like the best references to filecan anyone help? Bob, Could it be Clinton is a tool of David Rockefeller and the Rothschilds groups? Seems to me, they are the ones behind the scene in most of what happens in the world today. Maybe we should direct our anger toward them instead of their puppets. John Lee ***Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273,Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for theentire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales,rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-dateLists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources.To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED]**FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.htmlEvery Diet Has Failed! What Can I do?Click Below to Ask Dr. Kathleen!http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364***
[CTRL] HAARP
-Caveat Lector- "NewsHawk Inc." wrote: 8.19.99 Electromagnetic HAARP Technology Can Generate Earthquakes The U.S. Navy's top-secret, massive, global HAARP project has a long list of objectives, agendas, goals and targets. This massive project includes among it's top-secret agendas the triggering of SEISMIC DISTURBANCES. In view of this and also in view of what happened in Turkey last week, we present here a NewsHawk article written in May, 1998 on the many astonishing covert agendas of the HAARP project. ELF detectors did in fact pick up some very unusual, anomalous electromagnetic signals emanating form the region where the 7.4 quake struck Turkey, which could indicate "tampering" with earth's geomagnetics by HAARP and/or similar/related technologies. Such tampering, as our report below discusses, could in turn indicate that HAARP transmissions may have been deliberately targeted to trigger a quake in this seismically highly sensitive, unstable area. John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. HAARP'S COVERT AGENDAS THE BIG PICTURE Copyright 1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. All rights reserved. HAARP--High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program. HAARP--the kind angels will never strum. HAARP--the futuristic nightmare project which is currently in operation, researching a wide variety of effects and phenomena, as well as possible uses and applications for such, resulting from beaming massively powerful radio signals into targeted regions of the ionosphere; a project which has given environmental activists, constitutionalists, airline pilots along with ionospheric physicists and other groups, such as normal, ordinary people definite cause for some serious concern. Contrary to information made public by the operators of HAARP, it is no longer a relatively small, preliminary venture limited to one (nevertheless extremely powerful) transmitter site in the remote Alaskan back country. Contrary to much of the official noise being generated regarding the supposed "benign" uses for this multi agenda'd operation, the internal intelligence/military documentation and a growing amount of supporting material shows that HAARP is in fact at this point fulfilling some highly secret and highly advanced functions; in fact, some very negative and completely objectionable functions. The acknowledged, publicized applications for potential applications of HAARP technology are primarily: Enhancement of or interference with communications, as well as development of new types of radio transmissions; "Investigation" of effects on weather patterns; Earth-penetrating tomography -- an X-ray like function which can reveal, for example, the existence of underground installations as well as oil or mineral deposits. Some of the other principal yet unpublicized goals are: Weapons-related (physical/psychological disablement) and mind control uses; Large scale tampering/modification of global weather patterns via ionospheric disturbances; "Pushing the envelope" in terms of pumping electromagnetic energy into the ionosphere, just to see what happens. It bears emphasizing here that any such references to HAARP being used for EM mind control come directly from numerous internal documents and repeated references therein to HAARP's capabilities as electromagnetic mind modification/manipulation technology and intentions to so implement HAARP. There are yet further agendas for HAARP even more covert than these, as this report will discuss. HAARP ON LONG ISLAND! Some very interesting information about HAARP has recently come light. To provide a background for some of this information, we go back to early last summer when Brookhaven National Laboratories on Long Island underwent a significant and far reaching change of directorship, and subsequently a change of direction and focus. The changes at Brookhaven, one of the first National Laboratories established, received coverage even in the national news media. Brookhaven Labs has been repeatedly named as a major player in other clandestine and generally malignant and malevolent operations on Long Island--such as the Montauk Project and many related activities; among other well-known secrets are the particle accelerators underlying much of the area used in so many covert projects, which undoubtedly also have negative environmental and health consequences. Subsequent to these well-publicized but never adequately explained changes at Brookhaven Labs last year, several of the Navy's key HAARP personnel are now stationed at BNL. No public mention has been made of this by Brookhaven, the Navy, nor anyone else. Latest reports show that the Navy has more or less completely taken over administration and operation of HAARP and that the Air Force is no longer involved in any
[CTRL] Banishment
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.centraleurope.com/news.php3?id=87251 Thursday, Aug 26 at Prague 01:36 pm, N.Y. 07:36 am Editor's Pick: Kosovo Crisis: Segregation proposal splits Kosovo council. And for news and links on Romania, check out Romania Country Info. August 26, 1999 Croatian Edition Of Mein Kampf Can't Be Banned Croatia's state attorney Berislav Zivkovic on Wednesday said a Croatian edition of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" could not be banned legally in the Balkans country, a Croatian daily reported. "It is not possible to implement such a ban in Croatia," Zivkovic told the Novi List daily explaining that procedures for imposing the ban should be conducted under a law on the prevention of abuse of freedom of the press and other information, dating from 1976, which was no longer valid. Simon Wiesenthal, a survivor of the Nazi Holocaust and a founder of the Jewish Documentation Center in Vienna, on Monday called on the government of the German state of Bavaria, which has the copyright of Mein Kampf, to ban the book's Croatian edition. However, Zivkovic said that it was not yet clear whether the publishing house Croatiaprojekt had publishing rights for Hitler's book. He stressed that under Croatian criminal law it would be possible to press charges against the editor of a book like Mein Kampf if he supported its contents. The book's editor and publisher Franjo Letic said Monday that there was "no reason for Simon Wiesenthal to request a ban," arguing that it "would be counter-productive." "'Mein Kampf' has been published in Croatia in 2,000 copies since mid-June, according to Letic, and one third of the copies have been sold so far. ((c) 1999 Agence France Presse) Lead-in to article from http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19990823/wr/tech_hitler_4.html Monday August 23 4:52 AM ET Bertelsmann Pulls 'Mein Kampf' From Online Shop By Deborah Cole BERLIN (Reuters) - German media giant Bertelsmann Friday pulled Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf from its BOL online book store after being accused in Germany of selling hate literature. BOL's German and Dutch services have never sold Hitler's autobiographical manifesto, written in prison several years before he led the Nazi party to power in 1933 and full of anti-Semitic tirades, because the book is banned there. But BOL said it would stop offering the book on its English and French services to prevent Germans buying it anyway. End lead-in Well: apparently the solution to education about the worser periods of history is to ignorance-denial-hiding that period and its primary resource material. Perhaps it's because the book describes the writer's attitudes towards certain people -- as far back as the '20s -- that might prove to be embarrassing (i.e., even *I* would have gotten the point). Additionally, start banning books then they become collectors' items (i.e., important) and take on a whole new significance. Thus, as a coveted item, it might provide some inspiration. It would be interesting to see how the sales progress now that this new push to pull the book is underway. Then Croatia ... wasn't that one of the countries that marked among the first ethnic cleansings of the Serbs? Go to http://www.srpska-mreza.com/bookstore/voices/voices7.htm for some additional information on this last item. So, wouldn't a ban be a little late? AER AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER
Re: [CTRL] Did Bill Clinton Overdose on Cocaine? (fwd)
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So when its all said and done, Clinton DID inhale!
MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
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http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/8/25/161649
With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...
Wednesday August 25, 5:08 PM
Did Bill Clinton Overdose on Cocaine?
Now that the press has raised the "coke" question in their dogged
pursuit of George W., questions about Bill Clinton's drug past
are also fair game.
One area of inquiry for the news hounds at, let's say, the
Washington Post, might be an incident that supposedly taken place
in the early 1980's when Bill Clinton was governor of the state
of Arkansas.
Dr. Sam Houston, a respected Little Rock physician and once a
doctor for Hillary's cantankerous father, Hugh Rodham, says it is
well known in Little Rock medical circles that Clinton was
brought to a Little Rock hospital for emergency treatment for an
apparent cocaine overdose.
According to Houston, who told us he spoke to someone intimately
familiar with the details of what happened that night, Clinton
arrived at the hospital with the aid of a state trooper. Hillary
Clinton had been notified by phone and had instructed the
hospital staff that Clinton's personal physician would be
arriving soon.
When Mrs. Clinton arrived, she told both of the resident
physicians on duty that night that they would never practice
medicine in the United States if word leaked out about Clinton's
drug problem. Reportedly, she pinned one of the doctors up
against the wall, both hands pressed against his shoulders, as
she gave her dire warning.
Like most tales that reflect poorly on Bill Clinton, the press
has ignored any inquiry into this one. In 1996, however,
columnist R. Emmett Tyrrell located and telelphoned one of the
nurses who had been on duty the night Bill Clinton was brought
into the emergency room. According to Tyrrell, the nurse didn't
deny the story, but said she couldn't talk about it because she
could lose her job. Weclome to Arkansas!
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[CTRL] Fwd: Bush-Lite - Made with Less Leadership, Less Experience, MoreRight-Wing Flavor
Status: U Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:09:35 -0500 (EST) From: Gene Crum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Democratic News -- August 19, 1999 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:56:18 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Democratic News -- August 19, 1999 Welcome to Democratic News! August 19, 1999 ** IN THIS ISSUE - ON THE WEB - PROGRESS VS. PARTISANSHIP - BUSH-LITE ** ON THE WEB: Democratic Governors' Association To learn more about the upcoming gubernatorial elections, visit the 1999 Election and the 2000 Election sections on the Democratic Governor's web page at: http://www.democraticgovernors.org/ ** PROGRESS VS. PARTISANSHIP August 18, 1999 1. PRESIDENT CLINTON LEADS DISCUSSION ON YOUTH VIOLENCE A new anti-violence initiative was unveiled this week as President Clinton and the Ad Council launched a public service campaign to encourage open communication between parents and children. The television spots encourage "parents to talk with their children about violence in the wake of shootings at public schools and a community center," reports the Washington Post. Emphasizing the important shared responsibility by everyone from Hollywood to Capitol Hill, President Clinton stated, "'We ought to give our kids back their childhood, and we can do it, if we do it together.'" [Washington Post, 8/18/99] 2. REVIEWS IN FROM AROUND COUNTRY - JUST SAY NO TO GOP TAX PLAN Republican loyalties obviously lie with wealthy supporters, not with America's children. Nevada's Reno Gazette-Journal this week panned the Republican tax plan noting that "[i]n their haste to cut taxes, Washington Republicans don't tell you about the other side of the coin. On that other side, valuable programs will be cut or go unfunded." In particular, the editorial cites the drastic reductions in government support for vaccinating toddlers. Cuts in 1998 and again this year will leave the program able to aid only 39% of Nevada's children resulting in an expected decline in the total number of vaccinated youngsters. What is worse, the trade off for failing to provide health services to children is that "defense contractors would be able to deduct earnings from foreign sales...saving them $1.1 billion over 10 years." [Reno Gazette-Journal, 8/17/99] 3. AS TODDLERS TO TEENAGERS RETURN TO SCENES OF VIOLENCE, DEMOCRATS WANT TO ASSURE THEIR SAFETY Earlier in the week, anxious parents accompanied their children as they returned to classes at Columbine High School in Colorado and to the North Valley Jewish Community Center in California with the cautious optimism that this year will be safer. On Sunday, 1,000 people participated in a rally to show their support for community action and new anti-violence initiatives. California Democratic Governor Gray Davis "said he was working with legislative leaders on a program that would help plan and pay for greater security at child-care centers and churches...[T]he program would be modeled on legislation passed earlier this year that seeks to do the same thing for schools," reports the L.A. Times. Meanwhile, U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno "wants prospective gun buyers to be required to take a written and manual test 'demonstrating that they know how to safely and...to lawfully use [a weapon] under state law.'" Such concrete Democratic efforts on both the federal and state level will help keep public institutions safe for everyone. [Los Angeles Times, 8/16/99] 4. DESPITE THE SPIN, REPUBLICAN RECORD OF INTOLERANCE REMAINS Richard Cohen's opinion piece in the Washington Post this week addresses an article that recently appeared in the New York Times about the Republican Party's increasing "tolerance" of gays and lesbians. "The fact remains that for all the good intentions of certain Republicans, the party itself remains much too hospitable to anti-gay bigots," Cohen writes. Cohen also points out that the leaders of the Republican Party are themselves the worst offenders. Those who freely spout anti-gay rhetoric include congressional leaders and presidential candidates such as Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT). "The list of GOP gay-bashers is long and troubling. It includes the Senate majority leader, Trent Lott, and the majority leader in the House, Dick Armey. It also features Sen. James Inhofe...and Gary Bauer, No.4 in the Iowa straw poll but maybe first in his emphasis on the immorality of gays." No matter how Republicans re-package their pitch, the GOP continues to embrace prejudice. [Washington Post, 8/17/99] ** Bush-Lite Made with Less Leadership, Less Experience, More Right-Wing Flavor August 19, 1999 IS THE HONEYMOON OVER FOR THE ANOINTED ONE? Criticism of George W. Bush has increased of late as the presidential wannabe still refuses to back up his flowery rhetoric with a
Re: [CTRL] gennifer drags rapist klintoon into Drug Row.[medialordschase their tails]
-Caveat Lector- Its hard to imagine but it looks like all this is media campaign to exonerate their favorite elite candidates use of drugs! GWB is the NWO's Boy George and they spent 100million over 5 years getting nepotism jeb in as governor of Florida so they will stop at nothing to get that other corrupt bastard his brother in as president...catholic church is behind themb Dave wrote: -Caveat Lector- Interesting how Clinton has been SO useful in advancing NWO agendas while never having to answer serious stuff (just like this cocaine allegation just doesn't amount to a hill of BEANS in comparison to other stuff) like the China-gate / Whitewater / Mena cocaine import / bodycount/ and SO MANY DAZZLINGLY severe criminal allegations... so many that congress seems dumbfounded.. while the press sells blowjobs as the important issue ... and now we see a hint of British journalistic spin beginning to seek to take focus OFF of the NWO heir-annointed Bush jr., and re-fasten it on Clinton's PERSONAL difficulties - as opposed to INCREDIBLY VAST crimes of State. This administration will be famous for performing the great blowjob snowjob... while transferring a couple of DECADES worth of Military intelligence to China free of charge -'cept for a few campaign contributions... Watch carefully now as the NWO hand never leaves it's arm ... and see how British VIP- politicoes and press will rally 'round Bush as the baton is passed... (wonder if he's got a private pilot's license) Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Globalist Agendas Debate and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bard Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: gennifer drags rapist klintoon into Drug Row.[media lords chase their tails] http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/8/22/113629 Sunday August 22, 12:45 PM Brits Headline Clinton Coke Charge For most of America's mainstream press, reporting on Gennifer Flowers' charge that President Clinton once offered her cocaine is strictly verboten. But in Britain, reporters know a bombshell when they see one -- and they're not afraid to inform their public about it. Inside Cover was the very first to pose the Clinton coke question to Flowers during her August 6 appearance on Sean Hannity's New York radio show. This past Wednesday Hannity put Flowers on TV, where she repeated the charge on Fox News Channel's "Hannity Colmes." While American reporters continued to chase their tails over completely unsubstantiated rumors that George W. Bush may have used cocaine as a youth, the London Times noticed that a sitting U.S. President had been hit with a coke allegation from a witness whose credibility has been vindicated in spades. Headlining their report, "Former Lover Drags Clinton into Drug Row," the Times reported on Saturday: "The Republican presidential contender George W. Bush was struggling to contain a fresh flood of questions over possible drug use in his youth yesterday as President Clinton was dragged into the dispute by allegations that he had taken cocaine. Gennifer Flowers, who had an affair with Mr. Clinton that he initially denied, said she saw him smoking marijuana when he was governor of Arkansas and that he had offered to obtain cocaine for her." The London Times quoted Flowers directly: "'He made it very clear that, if I ever wanted to do cocaine, he could provide that,' Ms. Flowers told Fox News. 'I clearly knew that Bill did cocaine,' she added." With rare exception, America's mainstream press has attempted to keep the Clinton coke charge secret. Speaking on condition of anonymity, one Fox on-air personality told Inside Cover, "It's scary the way Gennifer Flowers has been kept off the air." Two weeks ago, a tape of Inside Cover's Aug. 6 interrogation of Flowers was shared with the Washington Post, which has thus far declined to report the Clinton coke charge. Late last week, the same recording was shared with investigative reporters for two other major American dailies. On Friday the New York Post mentioned only briefly that America's President has been hit with a credible cocaine allegation, tagging the news onto yet another story about the unsourced Bush drug rumors. The second newspaper has yet to go to press since being provided with the Flowers' tape. Fox News Sunday's Tony Snow has reported Flowers' charge twice, re-running tape of her exchange with Hannity on Brit Hume's Thursday night FNC newscast and on his own regular Sunday morning broadcast. All other major American news outlets have embargoed news that the President of the United States has been hit with serious allegations from a highly credible witness that he abused cocaine while chief law enforcement officer of Arkansas. Read Inside Cover's groundbreaking exclusives on Gennifer
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bush's Drug Furor Shows Clinton Changed 'the Ga...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/21/1999 11:54:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this the same Ralph Reed who headed the Christian Coalition for several years? What kind of Christian is he if he's not concerned about drug use? And wasn't Pat Robertson involved in British Israel? Why Mr. Reed and Mr. Robertson are the same kind of Christians they always were. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WALL STREET JOURNAL Stonewall, Mr. Bush
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/21/1999 3:14:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How anyone with the least amount of intelligence can seriosly consider him to lead this country is beyond me. If he is elected President, what you'll see is this country go to hell even more than now. I think it is "like" calling to "like". This guy is a klutz. Maybe that's what Americans admire. Otherwise it is just a puzzle. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Princess Diana, Jack the Ripper, and Polly Klaas
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:547947"Princess Diana, Jack the Ripper, and Polly Klaas/A - Subject: Princess Diana, Jack the Ripper, and Polly Klaas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kansan1225) Date: Thu, 26 August 1999 07:53 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Full Moon of Virgo will occur this evening. For clandestine Luciferian Masons (CLuMs) the zodiac sign of Virgo (the virgin) is important for women in general, in their states of young girl, mother, and old woman. In many cases human sacrifices of women are carried out by CLuMs during this zodiac sign. This was the case with the death of Princess Diana who was killed by CLuMs on August 31, 1997, just before the New Moon of Virgo (9/1/97). CLuM human sacrifices are also sometimes synchronized with the New Moon, or the Full Moon, according to the sacrificial timetable of the Temple of Solomon, the central object of Masonic mythology. As far as the French police investigation itself is concerned, the fact that they have not publicly identified the white Fiat that collided with Diana's car shows that they are unable or unwilling to conduct a thorough inquiry, no matter how many "millions of dollars" they have spent. Diana's death occurred 109 years to the day after the first murder attributed to the CLuM serial killer Jack the Ripper. The number 109 contains the digits of 19, a reminder of the 19-year Metonic cycle of the moon, another regulator of CLuM outrages. The Ripper's first victim was Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols, killed on August 31, 1888. It is a little known fact, but the name "Polly" is a variant of the name "Mary". The combinations "Mary Ann", or "Marianne", or "Pollyanna", etc., are common because St. Anne was the mother of the Blessed Virgin Mary: "Mary Ann" simply means "Mary, daughter of Anne". As CLuM luck would have it, on October 1, 1993, a young girl named Polly Klaas was abducted from her house in Petaluma, CA, and killed. It is a little known fact, but Polly's full name was Polly Hannah Klaas. "Klaas", of course, is the Dutch version of "Nicholas". Therefore, Jack the Ripper's first victim, Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols, had the same name form as Polly Hannah Klaas, or "Mary Ann Nicholas". Moreover, as CLuM luck would have it, Polly Klaas' mother is named Eve Nichol. Petaluma, CA, is located in Sonoma County, just north of San Francisco Bay. "SONoMA" is a Baconian cypher for "Mason". "San Francisco Bay" is an anagram for "Say Francis Bacon", a reminder of the very important CLuM Sir Francis Bacon, the author of "The New Atlantis" and one of the real authors of the Shakespearean works. Another landmark near Petaluma is the Jack London State Historical Park, a reminder of JACK the Ripper, the CLuM serial killer active in LONDON. Polly Hannah Klaas' murder happened on the day after the Full Moon of the Blue Moon of September 1993. That Blue Moon had marked the signing of the first accord between the Zionist entity, the so-called State of Israel, and the PLO. This event had taken place on the 13th day of September 1993 at the White House. It seems that poor Polly Klaas, "America's child", was chosen as a sacrificial victim for the success of that CLuM agreement. The Polly Hannah Klaas case began to be "solved" by the police two Full Moons later on November 28, 1993, when a woman named Dana Jaffe called them and said that some items related to Polly had been found on her property on Pythian Road. "Pythian" is one of the names of Apollo, the sun god, a Greco-Roman version of Lucifer/Satan. "Pythian" refers to the Python, a large snake, or dragon, that Apollo had slain at Delphi, according to Greek mythology. "Pythia", of course, was also the title of the woman fortune teller at the Temple of Apollo at Delphi. The name "Dana Jaffe" is also very significant. The main Masonic hero, Hiram Abiff, was a "son of a widow", a woman of the tribe of Naphtali (Kings 7:14), or the tribe of Dan (2 Chronicles 2:14). The tribe of Dan had settled two areas of Canaan: one at the northern border and another along the coast, where the cities of Jaffa (Joppa) and Tel Aviv are. Therefore, the CLuM meaning of "Dana Jaffe" is "a woman of the tribe of Dan from the Jaffa area". (Remember also the case of "Dana" Plato.) Eventually a "usual suspect", the career criminal Richard Allen Davis, was charged with Polly's murder and sentenced to death in 1996. "Davis", of course, means "a descendant of David", keeping things tightly in the family of Mary and Anne, who were also descendants of King David, according to the Bible. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are
Re: [CTRL] Princess Diana, Jack the Ripper, and Polly Klaas
-Caveat Lector- Incredible! Caveat lector indeed DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] RUMOR MILL NEWS IS BACK!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY== = Dateline: 08.25.99 Rumor Mill News is Back! And Just in Time!!! Rumor Mill News has been in Colorado since the first week of August. Supposedly, we were there attending the Global Sciences Congress. The Global Sciences Congress always features speakers at the cutting edge of technology, medicine, spiritual discoveries, political intrigue, alien technology, UFO coverups, government crimes and corruption as well as whistle blowers from all walks of government and corporate life. Because of the caliber of people who speak at Global Sciences and the level of education and influence of the members of Global Science, it is not unusual to see dozens of people who are probably CIA, FBI, DEA, ETC! This year was no exception. This particular time, RMNews was quite happy to have so many G-men and women present. At least six of them bought tickets to my lecture on the death of JFK, Jr.; and at $20.00 a ticket, they definitely helped pay my gas bill back to California! The lecture on the death of JFK, Jr. is called "Web of Lies". It was a three hour lecture recorded on two 90 minutes tapes. Before I gave the lecture, I was briefed for many hours by civilian representatives of Faction Three as well as by the Military arm of Faction Three. Those of you who have been following Rumor Mill News know that on Wednesday, July 14... two days before JFK, Jr. was killed, RMNews sent out an article which stated that President Clinton has been driven insane and we must prepare for wild retaliations. Two days after JFK, Jr. was killed, RMNews Sources gave us information that caused a modicum of fear to rise in us. And to top it off, they told us we could not put it out over the Rumor Mill. This violated every rule of staying alive! All of us who release inside information know that the moment you get something, you put it out to as many people as possible... to stay alive. Because I was told not to put out my information over the Rumor Mill, I did the next best thing. I sent it to other investigative reporters and radio hosts. I did this for two reasons. In case anything happened to me, I wanted people to know why. The second reason was to time stamp the information so no one could accuse RMNews of stealing it from another reporter. After about a week I went back to my Sources and asked permission to put out the information they gave me. Not only was permission denied, I was told to "STAND DOWN", until further notice., and so, RMNews stopped being put out. Permission to go back online was given to me at the Global Sciences Congress. It was given to me after hours of meetings and briefings. I now have permission to tell you many things, but I still do now have permission to put the JFK, Jr. information out over the online Rumor Mill. I assure you, the information I have been given has not been covered on the Internet. If you want to know what I have been told, you will either have to wait until the booklet is finished, or you can buy the three hour lecture for $20.00... this price includes shipping. To order the two-tape set, call 1.800.400.1999 Or mail a $20.00 check to Rumor Mill News, P.O. Box 1784 Aptos, CA 95001. I am taking the tapes to my duplicator on Friday. If you are going to order the two tape set, send me an E-mail. That way I can have enough made up so that all orders can be filled and in the mail by the end of the week. I assure you, you will be shocked by what is contained in these tapes. One other famous person has recently died. This death is explained. Once you have listened to the tapes, I am confidant that you will agree with me that the story my Sources gave me is the true one. All the other stories have been put out to obfuscate the issue and create a "Web of Lies" that will forever shroud his death in mystery. * * * * * During the time that Rumor Mill News was in Denver, there was absolutely no time to listen to television, radio or to get on the Internet. You can't imagine how refreshing and revitalizing that was! When RMNews finally got back in the "groove" of things we discovered that the major story in the headlines was that George W. Bush is being hounded by the media dogs regarding his use or possible use of cocaine. Do you have any idea why this is happening? Before RMNews left for Denver, G.W. or "Dub" as his family calls him, was the "darling" of the media, and the expected winner of the Republican nomination for President. Now, the media dogs are hounding him and like attack pitbulls. What happened? Why did they go from fawning and licking his heels to shredding his character? Who owns the media? If you trace back who owns stock in the media and who the major advertisers are you will find many of the same names that are usually
Re: [CTRL] Israel Has 'Ethnic Bullet'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/22/1999 3:21:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IsraelWire-11/1-14:15 - IST) According to a Jerusalem Post report quoting the London-based Foreign Report, Israel has successfully developed what is being called an "ethnic-bullet", which will target only Arabs. The report quotes an "unconfirmed report" which originated in South Africa, which details how Israeli scientists have made a biological weapon tailor made to attack targets with the Arab genetic system I must have amnesia. Tell me again what the HOLOCAUST was. I vaguely recall words about Hitler trying to destroy all Jews. Perhaps if he had just worked on an "Ethnic Bullet," he could have achieved his purpose without alienating so much of the world. How interesting. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israel Has 'Ethnic Bullet'
-Caveat Lector- The Holocaust is the political weapon the Israeli politicos and their American sycophants use to silence and enfeeble opponents of their genocidal pogram against the Arabs. The holocaust (small 'h') is a bestial period of human history that often gets subsumed by the grander, political term Holocaust (big 'H'). Jamieson On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/22/1999 3:21:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IsraelWire-11/1-14:15 - IST) According to a Jerusalem Post report quoting the London-based Foreign Report, Israel has successfully developed what is being called an "ethnic-bullet", which will target only Arabs. The report quotes an "unconfirmed report" which originated in South Africa, which details how Israeli scientists have made a biological weapon tailor made to attack targets with the Arab genetic system I must have amnesia. Tell me again what the HOLOCAUST was. I vaguely recall words about Hitler trying to destroy all Jews. Perhaps if he had just worked on an "Ethnic Bullet," he could have achieved his purpose without alienating so much of the world. How interesting. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lockheed Signs Deal with Russia
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/24/1999 5:33:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MOSCOW, July 28 (Reuters) - Russia's Khrunichev space centre and U.S. Lockheed Martin Corp on Wednesday signed an agreement on joint marketing and exploitation of Russian Angara rockets, Itar-Tass news agency reported. My goodness. It's a good thing they didn't sign one with China. After all, China is an enemy. The Russians are our friends. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Bill Of Rights
-Caveat Lector- The New Bill Of Rights 1. Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of rifle ranges, pistol clubs, shooting societies, gun clubs, or any other such organization; or prohibiting the free use of guns; or abridging the freedom to shoot or to hunt; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble firearms collections, and to redress their grievances with guns [or any other weapons.] 2. A comfortable and well-regulated populace being necessary to the security of a responsible state, the levy by any individual, group, partnership, company or governmental entity of any impost, toll or tariff of any kind upon the use by the people of sanitary facilities in the Unites States or any place subject to their jurisdiction is hereby forbidden. 3. Congress shall make no law prohibiting prayers in schools, or any other place, or abridging the freedom of reasonable speech or a responsible press; but speech shall be taken to mean sounds that come out of people's mouths or, if provoked, their guns, and not strange and unnatural dress or hair, or cohabitation with persons of the same sex, or offensive or perverted gestures or behavior, or other things that cannot be heard and have to be seen to be believed; nor shall disrespectful silence or the display of badges, buttons or slogans be held to be speech; but nothing herein shall be construed as limiting or abridging the right of the people to affix to the bumpers of their vehicles such signs and declarations as they may choose; and the press shall be held responsible for any smut or nasty things; nor shall any publisher insert any card in any periodical which shall fall upon the people's lap when it is opened. 4. Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speed by setting arbitrary limits thereon; or prohibiting turns to the right on a red light after a full stop; or preventing the removal of any buzzer or alarm in any vehicle or the installation of any device, electronic or otherwise, therein; or requiring any person to wear a belt, harness, helmet, or other encumber-ance while in motion of any kind; or restricting the right of the people to assemble at the scene of an accident or disaster to acquaint themselves with the results; or depriving any person of leisure, mobility, or a license to drive, without due process of law. 5. No person who has been granted lawful entrance to an establishment which has on its premises an hors d'oeuvre table, salad bar, or other assembly of comestibles shall be prevented from filling his plate therefrom as often as he shall choose, nor be made subject to any additional charge therefor, providing only that he shall have agreed to pay the full cost of an entree. 6. No person receiving public monies of any kind of support or aid shall be quartered in a hotel or any other such lodging, with or without the consent of the owner. 7. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, garages, cars, trailers, recreational vehicles, leisure homes, condominiums, papers, effects, belongs, and gun collections shall not be violated; nor shall they be required to seek permits to make additions or improvements upon their basements or attics or any place; nor shall any person enter therein for the purposes of inspection or assessment without their consent; nor shall they be required to enumerate their flush toilets or closets or any other thing therein, save only its occupants; and if anyone shall enter in or upon their property or vehicles without their consent they may in the first instance shoot, and then make inquiries. 8. After one year from the ratification of this article, the sale of contai-ners with tops which require than one motion to remove is hereby prohibited within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction. 9. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime unless a police officer shall say that he did it; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life and limb, except if his sentence be excessively lenient or his acquittal be due to a technicality or be otherwise ridiculous; nor shall he be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself and he shall be informed of his right to remain in confinement until he consents to do so; and if he shall be a witness against himself, he shall have the right to confront and cross-examine himself. 10. In all criminal presentations, the criminal shall enjoy the right to a speed and public trial by a jury of not less than one person, whose verdict must be unanimous in all capital cases; and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation and of the lesser charge to which he may plead guilty, as well as of the maximum sentence he could receive should he be found guilty of the original charge; and to have compulsory process to obtain copies of his confession; and to have present at his trial a court-room artist [and/or a video camera to
[CTRL] Fwd: Indonesian Power Deal Fails Time Warner Deal W/Brown
According to the Financial Times, the Indonesian power company PLN has made only a partial payment on the Paiton electric power plant. The partial payment leaves the PLN company millions of dollars short in repaying loans on the U.S. backed power plant. On August 20, 1999, PLN power President, Adhi Satriya confirmed that the payment for Paiton would be only one third the contracted amount. Paiton is owned by Edison Mission Energy and General Electric in partnership with Japan's Mitsui and the Indonesian firm of PT Batu Hitam Perkasa, which is controlled by Hashim Djojohadikusumo. Hashim Djojohadikusumo is the brother in law of former Indonesian dictator Suharto's youngest daughter. It is expected that Edison Mission Energy will to go to arbitration court with the Indonesian power company in order to seek repayment for the $2.6 billion power plant. Standard Poor's warned that the insufficient payment by PLN could lead Paiton to default on $180 million in secured, triple-C rated, bonds. According to the Financial Times, PLN President Satriya also threatened to take the owners of Paiton to court over corruption allegations involving kickbacks to the Suharto family. According to former PLN President, Djiteng Marsudi, "corruption" raged out of control in the Paiton power project. Djiteng has said he was "forced" to sign unfavorable power plant contracts under pressure from Suharto's children and associates. Softwar has discovered that U.S. officials were also concerned about the corruption inside the Paiton power plant. Documents obtained from the U.S. Commerce Dept., and the Overseas Private Investment Corp. (OPIC) shows that U.S. government officials were aware of the corruption. According to the documents, Suharto's daughter and her brother in law Hashim were cut in for "2.5%" of the Paiton power plant. Of course, one would think the default of billions of Indonesian power projects should make the news. However, you will not see this story on CNN nor read about it in Time magazine... And the reason for such poor news coverage may surprise you. According to a recently discovered letter from the personal files of Ron Brown, Time-Warner sought and obtained Secretary Brown's help in an exclusive "recording" deal with Indonesia. According to Commerce Dept. documents, Suharto gave Time-Warner a sweetheart deal in CD production and distribution. In a 1995, Ron Brown wrote a letter to Hartarto Sastrosurarto, Indonesian Minister for Trade and Industry. According to Brown, "we would welcome the conclusion of the negotiations on phase II of the auxiliary dredging equipment project with Ellicott Machine Corporation and on Time Warner's investment in Indonesia's recording sector." letter attached below: OCT 27, 1995 His Excellency Hartarto Sastrosurarto Coordinating Minister for Trade and Industry Jakarta, Indonesia Dear Mr. Minister: It was a pleasure to meet with you here in Washington in mid-September, especially as Indonesia celebrates is 50th anniversary of independence. I especially enjoyed participating with you in the "Opportunity Indonesia 95" event on September 13, which is a good example of how to promote new trade and investment opportunities between our private sector companies. Clearly, Indonesia's geographic location as an Asian gateway, its expanding economy, and focus on technology development have attracted many companies to take a new look at trade and investment opportunities in Indonesia. I trust that the American firms which took part in "Opportunity Indonesia 95" will play a leading role in promoting further bilateral economic cooperation and development by establishing long-term partnerships with businesses in your country. In this regard, the development of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation has proven to be a powerful stimulus in each member's economy, as the annual summits have focused the world's attention on the Pacific Rim's potential to be a supplier of, and market for, products and services the world over. However, we know that it is important that intentions and commitments translate into contracts. I would like to bring to your attention a number of project involving American companies which seem to be stalled, including several independent power projects. These projects include the Tarahan power project, which involves Southern Electric; the gas powered projects in East Jave and East Kalimantan, which involves Enron; the Invicta power project, which involves British Gas with Raytheon as engineering/construction company and General Electric as the power equipment supplier for the project; and Ormat's geothermal power project at the Lahendong site. I know that privatization of power generation is an objective of the Indonesian Government and these projects would aid significantly in achieving that goal. In addition, we would welcome the conclusion of the negotiations on phase II of
Re: [CTRL] Fw: HOT: Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Fw: HOT: Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/25/99 6:04:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings Bob Barr is a half breed/half wit...not that there's anything wrong with that ===Bill. Perhaps. But of course the Waco Baby Killers are well bred, full witted...Nazis. flw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: HAARP
-Caveat Lector- forwarding knowledgeable feedback on yesterday's post on HAARP -Original Message- From: Jeane Manning To: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:23 AM Subject: Re: HAARP David, I'm leaving town in a few minutes to go to Salt Lake City, and in any event am not going to get into a discussion on the internet...However I just want to say to you as a friend that what "NewsHawk Inc." wrote is a very confused and fear-inducing mixture of some fact and some fiction. Where does this Montauk-connnections stuff come from? Only a couple of people as far as I've heard... And yes there are patents on e/m mind-altering technologies as you are well aware. And the ELF bouncing back down from the ionosphere when perturbed by larger-scale HAARP-type technologies could accidentally interfere with the functioning of humans or other life forms in some regions. But HAARP itself as it stands couldn't be used to target anyone's brain. Small devices on the ground can and do, but not a diffuse broadcast effect... As for targeting Turkey, why would the US want to do that? My concern is more about accidental upsets of our planet's interconnected electrical etc systems. got to run, literally Jeane DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Banishment
-Caveat Lector- When I was doing research on the Holocaust I read about half of Hitler's Mein Kamph. I got a copy from the local library. Reading it was important to me in understanding clearly Hitler's motivations. In later discussing some of my findings with "deniers" I found, to my surprize, that they had never read the book. I believe that some of their assumptions would be put in great peril if they were to read the book. For instance, one claimed to me that Hitler invaded Poland in order to protect Germany from Soviet communism. Of course, reading Mein Kamph would have made a great shambles of this theory, since Hitler over and over writes about the need for Germany to expand eastwardly, etc. (To say nothing of the 1920 Battle of Warsaw and the 1939 Ribbentrop agreement). It seems to me that banning books is one of the crimes of Nazism and banning books is really a tribute to Hitler. Howard Davis BERLIN (Reuters) - German media giant Bertelsmann Friday pulled Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf from its BOL online book store after being accused in Germany of selling hate literature. BOL's German and Dutch services have never sold Hitler's autobiographical manifesto, written in prison several years before he led the Nazi party to power in 1933 and full of anti-Semitic tirades, because the book is banned there. But BOL said it would stop offering the book on its English and French services to prevent Germans buying it anyway. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990826a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No cult compounds were besieged during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Furor over Turkey death count. ISTANBUL (AP) Vast fluctuations in Turkey's earthquake death toll, jumping by about 6,000 only to fall back, prompted opposition parties to question the government's accuracy and organization. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560871501-971 : Who's behind the widely fluctuating death counts? How many of the victims were harvested by Reptilioids, their disappearances hidden by bureaucrats? Why sere US military/govt leaders in Istanbul during the quake? Who did it? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # FBI beginning new Waco inquiry. WASHINGTON (AP) - The FBI is launching an internal inquiry into why it took six years to admit that agents may have fired potentially flammable tear gas canisters on the final day of the 1993 standoff with the Branch Davidian cult near Waco, Texas. Circle the wagons: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560874638-c3b # FBI STATEMENT ON WACO SIEGE RAISES QUESTIONS. Embarrassing about-face for law enforcement: http://cnn.com/US/9908/26/fbi.waco.01/index.html : Do you run or work for any police/security/intelligence agency? D'ya have anything to hide? What have you covered up? Are your masters pleased? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ex-spy plans Net disclosures. (BBC) Renegade MI5 officer David Shayler has said he will reveal further secrets of his work with the UK's intelligence services. In an interview, the ex-spy claimed the secrets were stored in his computer and ready to be published on the Internet. Whitehall quivers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_429000/429393.stm @ Links: MI5: http://www.mi5.gov.uk/ @ Shaylergate: http://www.shayler.com/ : Are supposed ex-spies to be believed? How deep is Shayler in the multiple layers of disinformation surrounding UK intelligence? How deep in are *you*? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Mozart-smart theory hit. (AP) A Mozart sonata may lift the soul, but it won't make listeners smarter, say 2 studies challenging previous research and popular belief about the effect of music on intelligence. New results call into question 1993 research that showed college students temporarily gained up to nine IQ points after listening to a Mozart piano sonata. The widely reported findings spawned an industry of supposedly mind-enhancing recordings. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560872050-a41 # Prelude or requiem for the 'Mozart effect'? http://www.nature.com/server-java/Propub/nature/400826A0.abs_frameset http://www.nature.com/server-java/Propub/nature/400827A0.abs_frameset # reply: Prelude or requiem for the 'Mozart effect'? http://www.nature.com/server-java/Propub/nature/400827B0.abs_frameset : Have you ever enhanced your brain? Did it work? Have you spent much money trying to enhance your brain? Do you sell brain-enhancing products? Is it profitable? Are you rich yet? If you're so smart, why aren't you rich? Huh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Mind-Control-A-Rama: @ ACID DREAMS - LSD and the CIA. "At first, the CIA thought LSD would make them virtual masters of the universe. Later, after sober second thought, they realized they might have to set their sights little lower, but they continued their enthusiasm for the drug (which Richard Helms called 'dynamite')." See http://www.spunk.org/library/misc/sp000530.txt @ US soldiers human guinea pigs / LSD. Between 1955 -1975, the US Army used 7,000 enlisted soldiers as human guinea pigs for experiments involving a wide array of biological chemical warfare agents, powerful mind-altering psychochemicals including LSD, PCP and BZ. These "volunteer" test subjects were not told which drugs they were given, and were not fully informed of the extreme physical/psychological effects these drugs would have on them. http://site034145.primehost.com/gallery/galleryitems/edgewood/edgewood.htm @ Colin Ross/ LSD/ BLUEBIRD. "...full proof of the fact that the Manchurian Candidate is real... created by the CIA and military. The documented mind control research includes putting brain electrodes in children as young as 11 years old and controlling their behavior from remote transmitters; giving 150 mcg of LSD per day to children age 7-11 for weeks and months at a time; building safe houses where CIA personnel watched prostitutes turn tricks with customers - the prostitutes gave their customers LSD without the customers' knowledge; wiping out memories with electric shock, and using animals with implanted brain electrodes as delivery systems for chemical and biological weapons. http://www.rossinst.com/blue.htm : What's your favorite mindcontrol
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990826b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No alien implants short-circuited during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 2 students arrested in plot. PALATKA, Florida (AP) - Two boys at a school for troubled children were arrested on charges they were plotting a return to their former high school to kill students and teachers. Better than Columbine: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560871423-97a : How young were you when you first plotted killings? Did the mindcontrol programs implanted in you work correctly? Did you succeed? Were you caught? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ WORKSHOP: Rumors, Hoaxes, Frauds Urban Legends. Mohawk College (Fennell Campus) in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada will hold a 1-day workshop on rumors, hoaxes and urban legends on Saturday, October 16, from 9 am to 4 pm. This course looks at how misinformation gets into different outlets, why they are believed and how to spot them. There will be plenty of case studies, from the infamous to the obscure. Course code is LLM32. This course is for anyone who is interested in being a savvier news consumer. For more info, call Mohawk College at 1 905 575 1212 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] : What are your favorite rumors, hoaxes, legends? Have you created/dissemi- nated many? What actions are you planning against workshop attendees? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Thai monk surrenders to cops. BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) A renegade Thai monk accused of illegally amassing a personal fortune from donations gave him- self up after riot police surrounded his sprawling temple complex. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560871080-a7a : Is the leader of your belief subsystem wealthy? Do you lead a sect? Are ya rich yet? Why not? Have the police come for you yet? Will they soon? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Kin of man in cult suit abducted. TOKYO (AP) The daughter of a man suing the cult blamed for a deadly 1995 nervegas attack on the Tokyo subways was briefly kidnapped by a man who warned her to make her father drop the suit. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560865776-360 : Does your belief system promote kidnapping, intimidation, mass murder? Do you have any plans beyond Doomsday? Would you kill to hasten Doomsday? Who? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Cult mind control - The 10 themes of cult membership: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-08.htm 1) The Doctrine is Reality - The cult's beliefs allow no interpretation, or opposing views to be valid. 2) Reality is Black and White, Good Versus Evil - no outside group is valid, "no room for interpretation or deviation". 3) Elitist Mentality - they are the chosen ones. 4) Group Will Over Individual Will -"the self must submit to the group"; "individuality is bad"; "conformity is good". 5) Strict Obedience: Modeling the Leader - the leader is imitated by all. 6) Happiness through good performance - behaviors are controlled by shaming, competition; friendships are discouraged. 7) Manipulation through fear - "each group has its devil... around the corner waiting" to kill you or whatever. 8) Emotional highs and lows - from great productivity to crashing (always due to the individual's inadequacies, according to the cult). 9) Changes in Time Orientation - pre-cult life is bad, the present is crucial (pressure to meet quotas, etc.) the future is known by the leader, reward or punishment, the world will end, etc. 10) No Way Out - "there is never a legitimate reason for leaving" A) Cults also use "love bombing," lots of flattery early on to "suck people in." This disappears later once a person is in deeper. : What's your favorite cult? Who's your favorite cult leader? Do you lead a cult? Is it fun? Do you enjoy sex drugs adulation? Does one or more god speak thru you? What do they say? Do you ever edit them? Are they pleased?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Demand soars for pope's cakes. WARSAW, Poland (AP) The endorsement of the pope has sent sales of cream cakes in a southern Polish town skyrocketing. Demand for cream cakes in Wadowice soared more than 10 times after John Paul II casually told residents of his hometown during a June visit that he had enjoyed the treats as a boy. Bakery shops say they now sell 2,500 kremowki or cream cakes a day to local residents and tourists. Before the pope's visit, they averaged 200 a day. ### : "Gimme that old-time kremowki, Gimme that old-time kremowki, It was good enough for J.P., And it's good enough for me!" (tune: Old-Time Religion) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Entrance to Holy Sepulcher not made. JERUSALEM (AP) A second exit to the crowded Church of the Holy Sepulcher may not be ready in time for the millions of pilgrims expected to visit in the year 2000.
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Thursday #1 - spy vs spy
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: ric carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Ex-spy plans Net disclosures. (BBC) Renegade MI5 officer David Shayler has said he will reveal further secrets of his work with the UK's intelligence services ... on the Internet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_429000/429393.stm Is this the same guy who released the names of operatives around the world? I enjoy reading the dirty little secrets of our country, but I have a major problem putting peoples lives at risk, and those of their families, simply to show off. Ah, but are Shayler's 'disclosures' real, or just another layer of disinfo, and how can we tell? One or more intel agencies may have put Shayler out in public view to 1) distract the public from real operations elsewhere, 2) provide alternate scenarios for past real operations, and 3) provoke public support for strengthened "official secrets" measures. Mazes within mazes within... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990826c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No alien implants were short-circuited during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ CROP CIRCLES OF DA GODS. The circle: notice the extra small circle. During the solar eclipse earlier this month a small circular something was seen at the same location during totality. If it was a hoax, how did they know something would be spotted there? Any answers from debunkers? C'mon now: http://cropcircleconnector.com/1999/Bishopcannings/bishopcannings99a.html : Have you encoded future information in your crop circles? Did you encode something more/less important than eclipse details? What was your purpose?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CASE OF THE BLINKING BROADCASTERS. Ever wonder why watching the evening news makes you feel nervous? It might be because the news anchors blink too much. According to researchers, too much blinking can set the audience on edge. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15889 # VIAGRA: IT CAN LIFT YOUR MOOD, TOO. Viagra is now reported to help men who have erectile dysfunction and depression - in a new study, men whose impo- tence was improved by the drug also saw their depression go away. It makes sense that feeling better sexually will get rid of the blues. Rise and shine: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15891 : Are blinking news-anchors and impotence relief further refinements of mind control techniques? Are the orgasmic or non-orgasmic more easily controlled? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Israeli court upsets Orthodox. JERUSALEM (AP) Giant pieces of electric equipment must be transported on the Jewish Sabbath, Israel's Supreme Court ruled Wednesday, setting aside objections by religious parties. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560869744-ce2 : Does your belief subsystem object to moving giant pieces of electric gear on certain days? Do you object to electrocutions on certain days? Why fry?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # In First Case Of Fully Automated Design, Computers Shape Lego Bricks Into Various Designs Without Human Input. Evolution, until now the unchallenged domain of living organisms, may soon become possible for robots as well. A simple computer-based form of evolution - nature's own design strategy - has succeeded in designing LEGO structures without any assistance from humans. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990826071332.htm # Japan's NEC Develops Home Helper Robot. TOKYO (Reuters) - Just can't find good help these days? Japanese chipmaker NEC Corp may have the answer: an egg-shaped household robot that responds to voice commands, records and sends video-mail through the Internet and switches on air conditioners, televisions and VCRs with an infrared remote control device. Danger, Will Robinson! http://news.excite.com/news/r/990826/07/science-japan-robot : What's your favorite robot? Have you designed/build/dismantled any robots lately? Are you a robot? Do you respond to voice commands? Are you surly?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Reusable spacecraft in the works. WASHINGTON (AP) Flight tests will begin next year on a new generation of reusable spacecraft that will be less expensive to operate than current rocket launchers. X-33, X-34, X-37 - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560860414-809 # Mir's demise caps Soviet space era. MOSCOW (AP) After 13-1/2 years, more than 77,000 loops around the Earth and 1,600 breakdowns, the Mir craft is scheduled to bid farewell to its final full-time crew. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560867483-89f # Also: Americans will miss Mir, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560867492-25f # And: Key statistics about Mir, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560867504-e03 : What's your favorite spacecraft? Are you lost in space? Are you brokedown? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ FANS OF FEMALE BODYBUILDERS AND LARGE, STRONG WOMEN. While the alt.amazon- women newsgroup had about 1/10 the postings of alt.amazon-women.admirers, there are lotsa "Amazon Women" out there. If you ignore the spam, there's actually a tone of fond respect for these women, not just for lifting the weights to get them bulky but for going against the grain of aesthetics. (And it's a great spot for Xena-philes.) news:alt.amazon-women.admirers : Who's your favorite strong woman? Are you a strong woman? Wanna hurt me?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Maitreya-A-Rama: @ Maitreya info: http://members.xoom.com/spot_the_con/index.html @ Benjamin Maitreya are the fulfillment of ... What Religion did you say it was again? http://members.xoom.com/spot_the_con/7.html @ Benjamin Stuff Ups -False Predictions-
Re: [CTRL] Drugs and Crime
-Caveat Lector- While this is a fascinating article on crime, I find it also lacking in an acceptance of secretive-stalking crimes, probably also related to drug use and other outside syndicate situations. It does not take into account violence such as stalking violence. It does not take into account Intel agencies violence either (like Waco) -- and, as one person on list brought up -- it may not include some elements of corportate crimes. I am convinced that we have a very highly violent society now and very possibly with the wrong perpetrators being targeted. I don't believe that the hidden agendas are public enough yet for us to be able to judge a lot of so-called criminal behaviors. And the U.S. body of law, Consitution as well as subjects bearing upon human behavior (psychology, sociology, education, sexuality) may all need new interpretations once more of the hidden agenda is revealed. I hope this is sooner rather than later. Small city cults are probably making some of this information available to their members in some forms these days. Judith DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: HOT: Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings
-Caveat Lector- Bob Barr is a half breed/half wit...not that there's anything wrong with that ===Bill. Oh, well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Kathleen If Liberty means anything at all, it means the Right to tell people what they Don't want to hear! (by George Orwell) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nonsense! No Vatican Conspiracy Possible?
-Caveat Lector- I think you misunderstand our theory. Of course, only the US has the power to rule the world...and does! However, a detailed study would indicate that various elites compete behind the fraud of Democracy to control US policy and thus the world. It is very clear that the Vatican competes in this process through various of its arms including the Jesuits, Sovereign Military Order of the Knights of Malta, etc. Your gross, primitive dismissal seems silly! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:21 PM Subject: Nonsense Pls stop sending your nonsense about any Vatican conspiracy. That's all bullshit. Only the US has the capability to take over the world. So fuck off. *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Waco
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/24/1999 8:41:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Still say Koresh and his Branch DavIDIOTS deserved their fate...eh, it's not like we lost the cure for cancer, just some fringe scumbags... We didn't lose the cure for cancer; we lost respect for our Government agencies. That's not even mentioning the seventeen kids who could not be blamed for anything. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Trend Virus Report
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:21 PM Subject: Trend Virus Report * V I R U S R E P O R T (by Trend US Virus Research Group) * - Date: 08.24.99 Issue: 8.5 - Issue Preview: O97M_TRIPLICATE, 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Wild Viruses Surveyed by Trend US, Top 10 Viruses Trend US Customers are concerned about, PE_KRIZ Update, W97M_SHANKAR, W97M_CONT, W97M_AKUMA. * 1. One stone to kill three birds: The hunt for O97M_TRIPLICATE - O97M_TRIPLICATE is a macro virus that infects Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint data files. Even though we have added detection and cleaning for O97M_TRIPLICATE several months ago, we continue to receive reports of new infections. This week, O97M_TRIPLICATE even made it back to Trend's "10 Most Prevalent In-the-Wild Viruses" list. In this regard, we want to remind our customers to update their product to the latest Trend pattern file and to scan their system for the O97M_TRIPLICATE virus. In addition, we advise all our users to scan all Microsoft Office files before opening them. A detailed description of O97M_TRIPLICATE is available on Trend's website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=W97M_TRIPLICA TE 2. 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Wild Viruses Surveyed by Trend US (week of: 08/16/99 to 08/22/99) - 1. TROJ_SKA 2. JOKE_WOW 3. JOKE_GESCHENK 4. O97M_TRIPLICATE 5. TROJ_CAIN.15 6. TROJ_DOH 7. W97M_MARKER 8. W97M_ETHAN 9. NE_SMALL.JOKE For the most prevalent viruses for the month of July'99, please visit our website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/most_prevalent.htm 3. Top 10 viruses customers are most concerned about (where systems were not infected) - 1. PE_KRIZ 2. PE_KRIZ.3740 3. TROJ_CAIN.15 4. TROJ_SKA 5. VBS_MONOPOLY 6. JOKE_LANCHECK 7. TROJ_COOLGAME 8. VBS_FREELINK 9. TROJ_NETBUS 10. TROJ_NE_AOL.CJ 4. PE_KRIZ - A real threat or just another virus hyped up by some antivirus vendors? - Now that it has been one week since the appearance of PE_KRIZ, we would like to inform our customers that we still have not received any reports of infection from our customers. At this point, PE_KRIZ seems to be another virus, very similar to PE_EMPEROR, that received too much media attention but didn't do any damage. Even though PE_KRIZ is not likely to spread widely (or at all), we want to let our customers know that Trend pattern file 574 or later can detect this virus. For additional information about PE_KRIZ, please refer to our Virus Encyclopedia at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_KRIZ.3740 5. W97M_SHANKAR - W97M_SHANKAR (a.k.a. Marker.O) is a very simple macro virus, which infected several users in the past two month. While it has no destructive payload, W97M_SHANKAR displays a message box during the month of July. For a detailed virus description, please visit our website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=W97M_SHANKAR W97M_SHANKAR can be detected and cleaned with Trend pattern file 575 or later. 6. W97M_CONT (Potential data loss on the 17th of each month) - Also reported this week was W97M_CONT, a destructive macro virus which executes its payload on the 17th of each month. On that day, W97M_CONT adds the following text to C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT: " deltree /Y f:\* " " deltree /Y e:\* " " deltree /Y d:\* " " deltree /Y c:\* " " rem Created by Dream Blaster " " rem Minny, you are simply a bx " Upon rebooting, all files on the C, D, E and F drives are deleted. In order to prevent this from happening, we have added detection and cleaning for W97M_CONT to Trend's latest bandage pattern file as well as to the next release pattern file. For more information about W97M_CONT please go to our website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=W97M_CONT.A 7. W97M_AKUMA - a second destructive macro virus: - Just
[CTRL] Excellent Show on Waco on CNN Now
-Caveat Lector- Burden of Proof. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Save Our Canal! by Admiral Thomas H. Moorer
-Caveat Lector- Save Our Canal! by Admiral Thomas H. Moorer The control of the Panama Canal is far more important to our national security than is the control of the Kiel Canal to that of Germany, or the Suez Canal to that of Great Britain. Its protection is more essential than the protection of any part of our coast or any of our seaports, however important, because it is the key to the protection of many seaports and thousands of miles of coast-line. Henry L. Stimson Former Secretary of War (1913) The United States appears to be sleep-walking on a course to sure destruction, and Americas leaders, who have plotted this course, appear to be completely oblivious to the mortal danger they are leading us into. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the imminent giveaway of the U.S. Canal in Panama. In just a few months, unless the American people raise a terrific outcry, this strategic waterway, so vital to our economy and national security, will be turned over to Panama. But Panama, a tiny country of only 2.8 million people, does not even have an army. It has the capacity neither to defend nor maintain this valuable transoceanic thoroughfare. http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/08-02-99/vo15no16_canal.htm More .. Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] '..Washington is too corrupt to fix.. ' [WND]
-Caveat Lector- THURSDAY AUGUST 26 1999 Is Washington 'corrupt beyond repair'? Former defense contractor says system is 'broken' By Jon E. Dougherty © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com A former defense contractor who once had his life threatened by a defense contracting official in the presence of government lawyers says, Washington is "too corrupt to fix" and is being "run by a bunch of 22-year-old staffers who think the whole thing's funny." Bill White, who has spent 18 years in and around Washington, D.C., told WorldNetDaily he has witnessed the corruption "up close and personal" after the Department of Defense (DOD) "squeezed" his defense firm out of business. But White, who said it takes "in the neighborhood of 10 years" to build even a small defense contracting company because of intense DOD requirements, said the loss of his firm, Logics Inc., is "just a symptom of the overall problem with corruption in Washington, D.C." "I wanted to tell my story because it's not just about losing my company," he said. "It's much bigger than that. The whole system operates this way, and that's the way they want it. There is no system of checks and balances anymore." His experience began in 1989 when his company -- an electronics manufacturing firm -- began applying for -- and winning -- modest defense contracts. White said he bid on military projects because, as a minority firm, his company qualified for an accelerated payment program. White was qualified for the program because he is ethnically Hispanic, though he adopted his stepfather's Anglo name years ago. Logics' first contract came in the form of a $3.2 million award to build satellite communications equipment for Navy warships. White, who is a meticulous organizer, hyper-trained his staff and streamlined his operation in order to make it as efficient as possible and, hence, more appealing to government contracting officers who sought to get the most for the taxpayer's money. When it was all over, the company won immediate praise from government and DOD officials, and even navy personnel who were tasked with using his firm's equipment called to express their gratitude. "We were getting calls from naval field personnel telling us how well our gear was performing," White said. "We were also recognized by the Army for the seven products we had built that were used in Persian Gulf war weapons systems." He added, "We shipped over 20,000 weapons systems and never once had a failure." After being named the Pentagon's small business contractor of the year, White continued to pursue military construction bids, winning Army contracts to build 16,000 copies of a component to keep TOW missiles from misfiring, an upgraded missile launch control panel, and 64 copies of a critical component for the Firefinder radar system on the Army's Multiple Rocket Launch System (MLRS). But just as the years of painstaking effort necessary to comply with government defense contractor specifications were finally beginning to pay off, White said the government threw him a curve ball. In a series of bids won by Logics, the government provided White's company with "flawed" technical data packages -- packages of information listing the government's particular specifications for the construction of key system components. White said each company "has to build the exact same component because they are all supposed to be interchangeable" in the military's weapons systems, no matter who builds them. The flawed technical data caused Logics several production delays and unnecessary cost overruns on a few Army contracts while trying to re-engineer the mistakes. And, under government procurement rules, a contractor can file a claim for reimbursement when he incurs extra costs as a direct result of "government error or inaction." So White was confident his government-caused, out-of-pocket expenses would be taken care of. But the Pentagon and the Defense Department were slow to reimburse Logics for the unnecessary development costs. So slow, in fact, that before Logics received reimbursement on their first claim -- some 19 months later -- the company had to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. He now says he believes the flawed specifications in the data packages were more than simply the result of incompetence -- a problem rife in the Clinton administration's Department of Defense. He thinks the data was intentionally misrepresented and erroneous, especially after learning from an admiral in the Pentagon that the "unofficial rule" within the defense procurement bureaucracy is to squeeze out small contractors like Logics -- "no matter what." In the meantime, White said Logics continued development work because he wanted to keep the contracts, but the company soon ran into other problems. For example, he said, the components
[CTRL] Save Our Canal! Trouble Ahead
-Caveat Lector- Trouble Ahead Ironically, 20 years ago we were in better shape militarily than we are now. Today, unfortunately, the fears and concerns of those of us who have had military experience over a great number of years in a great many different situations have been absolutely confirmed. I have been honored to serve as this nations commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet, commander in chief of the Atlantic and the Atlantic Fleet, Chief of Naval Operations, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I truly cannot remember a time when I have been more concerned about the security of our country. That remark may seem strange, considering the history of World Wars I and II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. But it is a statement I will stand behind for the following reasons. Since 1812 no war has been fought against a foreign enemy on American soil. This is a very long time ago. I am an old sailor now, but I know trouble when I see it, and I see big trouble in Panama, trouble that could evolve quickly into a conflict in our own hemisphere with worldwide implications. As I stated earlier, the impending transfer of the Panama Canal to the Panamanian government, under the circumstances which now exist, amounts to handing over control of the Canal to Red China, an aggressive, brutal, expansionist, totalitarian regime that has shown, by word and deed, that it is our enemy. Chinas penetration of Panama is of utmost significance to the United States, but the Clinton Administration and its media friends have turned a blind eye to this dangerous development. In light of what has already become public concerning Beijings massive payoffs to Clinton-Gore and the Democratic National Committee, and President Clintons subsequent radical changes of policy to benefit the PRC, it is fair to ask if this willful blindness to so clear a danger is another quid pro quo for Chinese cash. The Chinese penetration of Panama has been effected primarily through an entity known as the Panama Ports Company, a front corporation for Hutchison-Whampoa Limited, a Communist Chinese-controlled company owned by Hong Kong billionaire Dr. Li Ka-shing. Dr. Lis business empire has long been intertwined with enterprises that front for the Communist military and intelligence arms of the Peoples Republic of China. Ten percent of his Panama Ports Company is owned by China Resources, the commercial arm of Chinas Ministry of Trade and Economic Cooperation. Two years ago, on July 16, 1997, Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) was quoted in the South China Morning Post as stating that China Resources was "an agent of espionage economic, military, and political for China." Shen Jueren, the Communist official who heads China Resources, and Li Ka-shing are both partners in the Riady familys Hong Kong Chinese Bank. Dr. Li is also a principal in the PRCs huge China Telecom, and the China International Trust and Investment Corporation (CITIC), a ministry-level conglomerate with global assets of $21 billion run by Chinese "princeling" Wang Jun. As chairman of Poly Group, Wang Jun also serves as the PRCs main arms dealer to Communist regimes, terrorists, and rogue states. Nevertheless, Shen Jueren and Wang Jun, like many other notorious Red Chinese agents bearing campaign gifts, were welcome guests at the Clinton-Gore White House. http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/08-02-99/vo15no16_canal.htm More . Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Save Our Canal! China Takeover
-Caveat Lector- China Takeover In reality, if we allow this suicidal course to continue, we will be transferring our strategic canal not to Panama, but to whichever power moves in to fill the vacuum. And there is no longer any cause to wonder which power that will be. Over the past several years, the Peoples Republic of China has made unmistakably clear its designs upon the Panama Canal. In fact, it has already moved in and begun to take control of this critically important asset. Yes, that is true; it is one of the great untold stories that have been completely ignored by our news media. If we proceed along our present course, by the end of this year, on December 31st, Communist China will become the de facto new owners and rulers of the Panama Canal. This is the same Red China that has been so heavily involved in massive espionage efforts to steal our satellite, missile, and nuclear weapons technology; the same totalitarian regime that massacred thousands of students at Tiananmen Square, yet still denies this atrocity; the same Red China that is supplying terrorist regimes such as Iran, Syria, Libya, and North Korea with missiles and weapons of mass destruction; the same Beijing thugs who are threatening Taiwan, Japan, and the Philippines, who are helping Pakistans nuclear weapons program, and who call the United States their "number one enemy"; the same Red China that has so thoroughly penetrated our government and our military research laboratories during the Clinton Administration. Over the past year, the American people began to get a glimpse of the enormity and gravity of the multitude of ongoing Clinton scandals known collectively as "Chinagate." However, Clintons allies in the media have been only too willing to help the White House divert attention from these serious matters. Thus, the public has remained largely uninformed on these vital issues, and we have not seen a sustained, determined attempt in Congress to hold accountable those individuals responsible for some of the most devastating betrayals of our national security. As injurious as the many Chinagate treacheries have been to our nations security, the impending surrender of our Panama Canal is more serious still. Tragically, Americans have come to take the Canal and its myriad benefits for granted. One of the great engineering marvels of the world, the Canal is not only a tribute to the genius, vision, determination, and political will of an earlier generation of Americans, but a crucially important artery and choke point for our Navy and merchant marine vessels. Its value far exceeds the $32 billion we have invested in it over the years, though that price tag alone is reason enough to question the sanity of those who are so determined to relinquish this valuable property. Over 13,000 commercial vessels transit the Panama Canal every year with some 190 million long tons of cargo. In the past year our Naval vessels used the Canal countless times. This 51-mile waterway cuts 8,000 miles off the trip around the southern tip of South America, saving as much as two weeks of transport time. In warfare, time means lives, and that much time can mean the difference between defeat and victory. The Panama Canal has played a crucial role in World Wars I and II, the Korean War, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and many other conflicts. I find it unfathomable that this tremendous asset which was bought at such a cost in gold, lives, sweat, and labor at the beginning of this century, and that is still so necessary to our nation s safety could be surrendered nonchalantly now at the close of this tumultuous century. http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/08-02-99/vo15no16_canal.htm More . Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: HAARP - Who is Jeane Manning?
-Caveat Lector- Who is Jeane Manning and what is her specific level of expertise? What is Jeane's experience with resonance? I'm just trying to understand why David posted this message from Jeane..anyone can post an opinion, but I'm keen to find out if she is connected with research in this area. Does Jean have any verifiable facts to add to the topic or HAARP? Don At 10:01 AM 08/26/1999 -0700, David Crockett Williams wrote: -Caveat Lector- forwarding knowledgeable feedback on yesterday's post on HAARP -Original Message- From: Jeane Manning To: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:23 AM Subject: Re: HAARP David, I'm leaving town in a few minutes to go to Salt Lake City, and in any event am not going to get into a discussion on the internet...However I just want to say to you as a friend that what "NewsHawk Inc." wrote is a very confused and fear-inducing mixture of some fact and some fiction. Where does this Montauk-connnections stuff come from? Only a couple of people as far as I've heard... And yes there are patents on e/m mind-altering technologies as you are well aware. And the ELF bouncing back down from the ionosphere when perturbed by larger-scale HAARP-type technologies could accidentally interfere with the functioning of humans or other life forms in some regions. But HAARP itself as it stands couldn't be used to target anyone's brain. Small devices on the ground can and do, but not a diffuse broadcast effect... As for targeting Turkey, why would the US want to do that? My concern is more about accidental upsets of our planet's interconnected electrical etc systems. got to run, literally Jeane DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] sad news for Brit patriots
-Caveat Lector- The papers are full of the latest independent Canadian tests on Gulf War troops from the UK who, it is found, have been *severley* poisoned by Depleted Uranium shells. The tone of the papers indicate cover ups at the highest level in the face of all previously submitted evidence - including the death and deformity rate of Iraqi children. Now there is a clear set of data with which the veterans can bring a lawsuit. The Ministry of Defence actively denies that anything it did caused a problem. Meanwhile, dying soldiers could be easily comforted by the cash value of a Belize passport - a Whitehall scam sells British backdoor entry via Belize for £36,000 sterling and are reported to be very healthy on the proceeds. Elsewhere it becomes clear why papers have been running rubbish stories on Diana, eg. seedy rugby player has a story about Diana 'masturbating' [last weekend tabloid] - and why 'Quality' papers tell us that the establishment has forgotten Diana by not marking the event and court rulings that Diana just had a car smash. UK landmine enterprises it has been reported - are as healthy as ever ... one paper reports a 'betrayal' of Diana's work. Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Vatican Supported Balkan War? A-albionic vs Paranoia
-Caveat Lector- "Lloyd Miller, Research Director" wrote: Free Rare/Out-of-Print Book Searches - Ruling Class/Conspiracy Experts: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** END A-albionic Research [Non] Weekly Up-date 8-26-99 In This Issue ^ 1. A-albionic Name Taken in Vain 2. Discussion Group Archive 3. Up-dates to "Super Catalog" ^ 1. A-albionic Name Taken in Vain ^ Our name was taken in vain in the subject article by Al Hidell which appeared in _Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader_ Issue 21, Fall 1999 (page 28), PO Box 1041, Providence, RI, 02901 [$20.00/year]: "The A-albionic conspiracy research group takes the LaRouche viewpoint a step further. In their view, Britain is indeed a major force working for world domination. However, they believe that there is another force battling Her Majesty behind-the-scenes: the Vatican. In the case of the Balkan conflict, it is interesting to note that the British are on the side of war, while the Vatican has repeatedly condemned the violence." Lloyd Responds: "Al Hidell" has it totally wrong on this one! The Vatican has not condemned the Balkans conflict other than to urge peace as usual! When one compares the Pope's shrill condemnation of the Gulf War (no blood for oil) backed-up by his US Bishops shouting the same, one can only presume that the Pope supports the Balkans war as a chess move in his Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals [EU] program and the Church's long-time rivalry with and desire to dominate the Eastern Orthodox Church! This Virgin Mary obsessed Pope has long cherished the Fatima prophesy of "converting Russia" to Roman Catholicism. Further, the Balkans war conforms nicely to the Pope's proposed alliance with Islam..."better a Saracen than a Gnostic" or the geopolitics of "faith versus modernism". Our analysis indicates that Britain switched sides in the Balkans mess [under the cover of putting the Labor Party in power] in a Geopolitical judo-move designed to array China and Russia against America. The original Bush-British policy was to support Belgrade in opposition to the Vatican-German-EU policy of supporting Catholic Croatia and Islamic Bosnia. After the Clinton victory in America, Britain's policy became untenable and had to be abandoned. Now, Britain in a clever judo-move is trying to induce America and the European Union (EU) to over-extend and crash on the rocks of a renewed anti-American block lead by Russia and China even while attempting to enshrine NATO as the overlord of the EU. It is very important to note that Britain was able to maintain its anti-Iraq policy [supported by the Queen herself in an address to Congress after the Gulf War] by the clever inside-outside strategy of supporting the impeachment drive within America and offering the friendly hand of fellow left-liberal Tony Blair in friendship from without. In spite of a disinclination and Vatican opposition, Clinton renewed and preserved the genocidal hot/cold war against Iraq. Hidell has a section head on page 28 that sums-up the essence of his misconceptions: "The US: Dominated or Dominant". Lloyd Responds: Of course, the US is dominant as the only "super power" nation state. The question should be, which social/economic power organs are dominant in determining its policies at this time? A-albionic thinks the Clinton Administration has primarily functioned at the behest of the Vatican based on Clinton's Georgetown-Jesuit-CIA introduction to world politics under the tutelage of Jesuit disinformation and propaganda agent, the Irishman Carroll Quigley.* This situation was made possible by the connivance of the Rockefeller interests which are the long-time rivals of the Queen's "Empire of the City" financiers for world domination of natural resources, international trade, governments, and the major Corporations. *Carroll Quigley wrote Tragedy and Hope - a book outlining how the world should be divided into 3 classes. Big bro at the top, an intelligent middle class controlled and the rest peasants who have no power whatsoever and are totally dependent on the state to care for them. Harmless sheeple.N //FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html \ Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. */// **E-Mail
[CTRL] DU-UK
-Caveat Lector- From www.lineone.net/express/99/08/26/news/n0100splash-d.html E-Mail - able COVER-UP EXCLUSIVE BY GREG SWIFT THE Government has been accused of a cover-up after new evidence emerged proving that British soldiers suffered massive radiation poisoning during the Gulf War. Tests 500,000-times more accurate than any previously conducted have shown beyond doubt that servicemen and women were exposed to terrifying levels of depleted uranium after it was used by the Allies to crush Saddam Hussein's army. The revelation comes as Gulf War veterans have accused former Armed Forces Minister Doug Henderson of misleading Parliament about the Ministry of Defence's knowledge of the poisoning suffered by British troops. The veterans claim that at a defence select committee meeting on April 28 this year, Mr Henderson told members that the MoD had not received any evidence of depleted uranium (DU) tests from former soldiers. But, they say, he neglected to mention a meeting between himself and the veterans on March 18, attended by Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott, at which evidence that 30 British veterans had tested positive for DU poisoning was presented. The Government has repeatedly insisted that troops who handled DU-tipped weapons during the 1991 conflict were not at risk of radiation poisoning. It has always insisted there has been no point testing British veterans because DU is passed from the system naturally within a few weeks and there was no risk from any contaminated dust with which troops may have come into contact. More than 700,000 rounds of DU-coated missiles and bullets were fired during the conflict. Produced from nuclear waste, the DU gives weapons amazing armour-piercing powers. But critics have argued that they are indiscriminate weapons of mass destruction which should be banned. Confirmation that veterans were poisoned and accusations that the MoD has deliberately covered up its knowledge of the facts, has led to calls for a public inquiry into how the Gulf War Syndrome issue has been handled by successive governments. Professor Malcolm Hooper, a Government-appointed scientific advisor investigating Gulf-related illnesses, warned: "These results are unequivocal and extremely worrying. The MoD has insisted there is no danger from DU but these results say otherwise. "This is a cock-up fast becoming a cover-up and unless the MoD says it is prepared to act swiftly then it must be accused of covering this up." Earlier this year, 20 veterans sent urine samples to a Canadian geochemist for detailed analysis. As The Express has already exclusively revealed, two previous tests conducted by respected scientists indicated DU poisoning. But the mass spectrometer tests conducted by Patricia Horan at the Memorial University of Newfoundland are up to 500,000 times more accurate than the earlier tests. Only one veteran, Shaun Rusling, has so far received his results which show that eight years after the end of the Gulf War, he is still passing 60 per cent DU in his urine. The highly-toxic compound attacks the lungs, liver and bones and can cause genetic mutations which are passed on through the generations. Sufferers of DU poisoning are susceptible to cancers at any time, anywhere in the body. Mr Rusling, head of the National Gulf War Veterans and Families Association, yesterday demanded a public inquiry into DU poisoning. "As a former soldier, I can't feel anything other than let down," said the 40-year-old father-of-two at his home in Hull. "The Government appears to be waiting until the vets die of cancer or until our levels of DU excretion are low enough for them to say that it is not a hazard. "To be excreting the amount of DU that I am now, eight years after the end of the war, shows that I was exposed to a massive amount at the time. "All we want is for the vets to be properly tested, to have the medical treatment that we have so far been denied and for an acceptance from the MoD that they know about DU poisoning and an apology. "I look at my nine-month-old baby and it breaks my heart because I know I will never see her grow up. I already have 23 acknowledged illnesses as a result of my Gulf service and the DU poisoning means that I could develop something fatal at any time. "It is rather like sitting around having a gun held against your head and waiting for it to go off." Professor Hooper said: "Patricia Horan's data makes it imperative that we begin an exhaustive study of British veterans. The results are reliable and a thorough investigation is urgently required, not only of Gulf War veterans but also those troops who have served in Kosovo where the Allies also used DU-tipped weapons." Tam Dalyell, Labour MP for Linlithgow, also called for an inquiry. "Any one who has seen the results of these men will know what a parlous state they have been reduced to. We all want to
[CTRL] Plan 9 from Outer space
-Caveat Lector- Subject: Plan 9 from Outer space http://www.forteantimes.com/artic/126/nine.html I actually read Briefing for the Landing on Planet Earth - must have been about 1979.I reccommend reading this book if you need to see how far deception can go from Ets interferring in our evolution. . It was so astounding at the time. Thought some of it wasn't quite right but the whole idea of it was intriguing. The book revolved around Uri Geller and Israel and how he was sent from a planet called Hoover to uplift the Jewish race. They were talking about holograms being projected around the middle east to make it look like miracles were happening. Even if it was a big con it opened up my mind a lot and got me wondering about how much power ETs have over us. I suppose with Alternative 3 by Leslie Watkins and Close Encounters of the Third Kind all appearing at that same time, the consciousness of the world would have had a bit of a shock treatment. 20 years later, now we are being enslaved by interdimensional reptoids? So much for peace and brotherhood of man with our space brothers. What about the Venusians George Adamski met and Billy Meier's Pleiadians? That was the ideal. Now what? Between you and me, I think there are a few thousand ETs living here ready and waiting to disable the technology they ( Illuminati and ET alliance) are intending to use for mass mind control and other sinister things. They do have telepathy to know what the evil ones are planning so we do have hope. Nicky --- One New Age channelling cult, above all the rest, has had a huge - very disturbing influence on hundreds of thousands of devotees worldwide. Known as 'The Nine', its disciples include cutting edge scientists, multi-millionaire industrialists and leading politicians. This exclusive extract based on The Startgate Conspiracy by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince looks at the sinister origins of The Nine I am the beginning. I am the end. I am the emissary. But the original time I was on the Planet Earth was 34,000 of your years ago. I am the balance. And when I say "I" - I mean because I am an emissary for The Nine. It is not I , but it is the group We are nine principles of the Universe, yet together we are one. The declaration above is typical of the channelled pronouncements of the Council of Nine or just The Nine. They contain all the usual New Age ingredients of grandiose statements, shaky grammar and unprovable predictions. But unlike all the other channelling cults, that of The Nine has serious clout. Perhaps the reason for this is that they claim to be the Ennead, or the nine major gods of ancient Egypt (see panel). Or could there be another reason, one that owes more to The X-Files than the Pyramid Texts? Although The Nine may appear to be quintessentially a modern phenomenon, our research uncovered its truly astonishing pedigree. In fact, the story begins nearly 50 years ago, in a private research laboratory in Glen Cove, Maine, called the Round Table Foundation, run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich (also known as Henry K Puharich).Set up in 1948 to research the paranormal, among the noted psychics studied at the Foundation were the famous Irish medium Eileen Garrett and the Dutch clairvoyant Peter Hurkos (Pieter van de Hirk).Prominent members included the influential philosopher and inventor Arthur M Young and the socialite Alice Bouverie (née Astor). In December 1952, Puharich brought into his laboratory an Indian mystic named Dr D G Vinod, who began to channel The Nine or the Nine Principles. In the months before Vinod returned to India, a group met regularly to hear The Nines channelled wisdom. Never known for their modesty, The Nine proclaimed themselves to be God, stating "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God." Three years later, there appeared to be independent confirmation of their existence. In Mexico, Puharich and Young met Charles and Lillian Laughead, former Christian missionaries who were by then prominent in the burgeoning UFO contactee movement. (For a description of their involvement in the Dorothy Martin circle, see Jerome Clarks When Prophecy Failed in FT117.) Back in the States a few weeks later, Puharich received a letter from the Laugheads containing messages received by their groups channeller. This message also claimed to come from the Nine Principles, even amazingly including references to the earlier communications transmitted through Dr Vinod. Could The Nine possibly be for real? Perhaps the answer is embedded in the career of Puharich himself. After disbanding the Round Table Foundation in 1958, he worked for 10 years as an inventor of medical devices and achieved international recognition as a parapsychologist, most famously studying the Brazilian psychic surgeon, Arigo (José Pedro de Freitas). But all that was to pale into insignificance because,
[CTRL] Congressman Barr calls for new WACO hearings; new evidence of FBI/DOJ lies
-Caveat Lector- forwarded. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Barr, Press [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:57 AM To: Barr, Press Subject: BARR CALLS FOR NEW WACO HEARINGS BARR CALLS FOR NEW WACO HEARINGS EVIDENCE RAISES NEW DOUBTS ABOUT GOVERNMENT TESTIMONY WASHINGTON, DC -- U.S. Representative Bob Barr (GA-7) today released a letter urging House Government Reform Committee Chair Dan Burton (R-IN) to convene new hearings into the federal siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco Texas that left David Koresh and over 80 followers dead in 1993. Barr's letter is based on new evidence indicating Administration officials may have lied about whether shots were fired and about whether pyrotechnic or incendiary devices were used against the Davidians. Barr also sent a letter to Attorney General Reno calling for an investigation into whether federal agents misled Congress in 1995 testimony that no shots were fired into the compound, that no incendiary devices were used, and that there was no military involvement in the assault. "Government admissions that incendiary devices were used at Waco by federal agents raise serious questions about who is responsible for the deaths of over 80 American men, women, and children. Additionally, this new evidence casts doubt on statements of Administration officials, and could lead to charges of perjury," said Barr. "If federal officials have been lying about these elements of the siege, their testimony on other matters should also be examined. New evidence indicates the government fired into the compound, and that military forces may have been involved in the assault. These and other matters deserve the attention of Congress and the courts," Barr continued. Barr, a former federal prosecutor, serves on the House Judiciary and Government Reform Committees. He also served on the joint committee that investigated the Waco attack in 1995. For additional information on this and many other issues, please visit our website at http://www.house.gov/barr To be removed from this list please reply with REMOVE in the subject line. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Secretly Conflicting
-Caveat Lector- Lead-in to opinion at www.the- times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/99/08/25/timopnope01003.html?1124027 Our campaign of bombing and sanctions only strengthens Saddam Britain's secret wars Believe it or not, Britain is still at war. You may shrug. You may think that pocket wars have become the adventure tourism of Labour foreign policy. But British troops are engaging an enemy. They are bombing, killing and spending a million pounds a week. They have been fighting Saddam Hussein since he evicted United Nations weapons inspectors from Iraq last December. The inspectors remain out, and Saddam remains in. Small wonder the war has been kept secret. The last time it was mentioned in Parliament was in June. Enemy casualties are mounting. Last week 19 Iraqi civilians were reported killed in a single day, topping the 17 killed when a missile hit a Basra housing estate in January. Asked about the point of all this on radio this week, a Foreign Office Minister, Geoff Hoon, was reduced to the Vietnam "My Lai" defence, that civilians had to die for their own protection. Another minister, John Spellar, was asked about reports that he had just bombed the tomb of St Matthew, no less. He claimed ignorance of the report. Ministers, like their pilots, are fighting this war from above a thick cloud base. End lead-in to Times Lead-in to ITN article www.itn.co.uk/World/world19990824/082402w.htm St Matthew's tomb 'damaged in air strike'The tomb of St Matthew has been damaged in an Allied air strike on a military target in Iraq, according to reports. Britain's Ministry of Defence confirmed that Allied aircraft did hit an air defence target at Ba'ashiqah on August 10, but could not say if there was damage to the Christian site. However, the MoD supported the continuing raids against Iraq, saying that British and US air crews are defending the local ethnic populations in the north and south from Saddam Hussein. End lead-in to ITN article Lead-in to Wash(DC) post article http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990824/V99- 082499-idx.html Iraq: Lab's Destruction a Cover Up By Edith M. Lederer Associated Press Writer Tuesday, August 24, 1999; 4:04 a.m. EDT UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- Iraq has claimed VX nerve gas and other chemical agents in a Baghdad laboratory were destroyed to cover up illegitimate activities by U.N. weapons inspectors. In a letter to the U.N. Security Council circulated Monday, Iraq's U.N. ambassador, Saeed Hasan, repeated Iraqi allegations that samples of the VX nerve agent were used to contaminate fragments of Iraqi warheads -- not to test equipment. End Lead-in to Post article AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives
[CTRL] (Fwd) [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES,
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:14:03 GMT Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: FAIR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES, IRAQ DEATHS ARE THE OTHER GUY'S FAULT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAIR-L Fairness Accuracy in Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports ACTION ALERT: FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES, IRAQ DEATHS ARE THE OTHER GUY'S FAULT August 26, 1999 Journalism best serves the common good when it focuses attention on social problems that its audience can help to solve. But establishment media outlets like the New York Times are often far less interested in the ills caused by the U.S. government than they are in the sins of distant regimes--especially those that have been designated as official enemies. On August 23, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan released his latest report on the Iraqi oil-for food program, which allows Iraq to exchange a limited amount of oil in return for humanitarian supplies to alleviate the devastating effects of the U.N. sanctions on Iraq's population. But while Annan criticized both the Iraqi government and the U.S.-dominated U.N. Sanctions Committee for the program's shortcomings, only his criticisms of Iraq were featured in the New York Times headline the following day: "Do More to Aid Nourishment of Very Young, U.N. Tells Iraq" was the title of U.N. correspondent Barbara Crossette's August 24 article. That article illustrates the Times' skewed vision of what is newsworthy. Of course, the Times has a responsibility to cover all aspects of Iraq's ongoing humanitarian crisis, including the performance of the Iraqi government in coping with U.N. sanctions. But as an American newspaper, the Times might be expected to highlight the U.S. role in Iraq's plight. For example, the U.N. Secretary-General wrote in his latest report that "There has been a significant increase in the number of holds being placed [by members of the U.N. Sanctions Committee] on applications" for humanitarian supplies, "with serious implications for the implementation of the humanitarian programme." Most of these holds were placed by the United States, which dominates the Sanctions Committee. But rather than focusing on that role, Crossette's piece mentions it only in passing: Only one paragraph of her article discusses the U.S.-led Sanctions Committee, which is criticized in the Secretary-General's report, while Iraq's shortcomings in implementing the oil-for-food program are discussed in more than a dozen paragraphs, as well as the headline. Furthermore, Crossette tries to portray Annan's criticisms of Iraq as if they were evidence of a sinister Iraqi conspiracy to deny food and medicine to the country's children. For example, she refers to "mounting evidence that [the Iraqis] have significantly stalled at least parts of a relief program." In reality, the U.N. report is an assessment of Iraq's performance on dozens of technical issues pertaining to the complicated bureaucratic endeavor of providing food and medicine to a country of 22 million people. Thus, while Crossette ominously quotes the U.N. report as saying that "Large quantities of essential materials remain in storage," she omits the subsequent sentence which reads: "The main explanation is the substantial decline in staff with sufficient skills to verify, transport and use the inputs ordered. The distribution rates are unlikely to improve without a programme of in-service training." For Crossette, the secretary general's report seems to be an opportunity to score political points against Iraqi officials, who "continue to accuse the United States of being entirely responsible for the deaths of thousands of Iraqis under the sanctions." The idea that it might be more important for the New York Times to inform its readers--overwhelmingly citizens of the U.S.--of what their government could do to help prevent those thousands of deaths does not seem to have occurred to the reporter or her editors. ACTION: Please contact the New York Times and tell them to give more coverage to the U.S. role in prolonging the humanitarian crisis in Iraq. Let the editors know that downplaying American responsibility for a situation that has killed at least 700,000--including hundreds of thousands of children--is not acceptable. New York Times, Letters to the Editor 229 West 43rd St. New York, NY 10036-3959 Fax (Foreign Desk): 212-556-3690 Fax: 212-556-3738 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Rosenthal-Foreign Editor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Feel
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UNDERNEWS Sam Smith August 26, 1999 The Progressive Review 1739 Conn. Ave. NW Washington DC 20009 202-232-5544 Fax: 202-234-6222 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INDEX: http://prorev.com RECENT UNDERNEWS: http://prorev.com/indexa.htm TODAY'S HEADLINE NEWS: http://prorev.com/altnews.htm THE REVIEW FORUM: http://prorev.com/letters.com DONATIONS AND ORDER FORM: http://prorev.com/order3.htm UNSUBSCRIBE: Reply with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. For a free subscription to our e-mail updates send your postal address with zip code. Copyright 1999, The Progressive Review. Matter not independently copyrighted may be reprinted provided TPR is paid your normal reprint fees, if any, and is given proper credit. Because of its quantity, TPR's mail is not always answered, but it is always read. The editor is cheered or remorseful as appropriate and posts some of the more interesting messages at http://prorev.com/letters.htm -- WE ARE NOT MAKING THIS UP Your editor is still in the land of nine-foot-plus tides where a lobsterman friend swears a tourist stood on the Maine shore when the tide was out and remarked, "Boy, the drought really has hit you hard here." A LITTLE LATE FOR THAT, ISN'T IT? Steve Roberts of USNWR on a Sunday talk show: "I think that we in the press have an enormous obligation to help the voters understand the judgment and the temperament, and the morality and the character of the people who want to be president and I think there's only one way we can do that, and that is to explore the judgments that they have made in the past." WACO MASSACRE LEE HANCOCK, THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS: The chairman of the Department of Public Safety said that federal authorities also need to investigate and fully explain why members of the U.S. Army's secret Delta Force anti-terrorist unit were present on the day the compound burned. "Everyone involved knows they were there " said James B. Francis Jr. of Dallas. "Some of the evidence that I have reviewed and been made aware of is very problematical as to the role of Delta Force at the siege. However, I think it's only fair that real independent experts look into that highly sensitive issue." A Department of Defense document released under the federal Freedom of Information Act confirmed that members of a classified Army special forces unit were in the area when the FBI's hostage rescue team used tanks to assault the compound with tear gas. DALLAS MORNING NEWS http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/0826tsw1davidians.htm FOOD NEWS I Agribusiness Examiner MAC ATTACK: French farmers, with the apparent support of the French people, have launched an aggressive campaign to not only protest U.S. trade sanctions against their country, but also to show their opposition to the increasing domination of multinational U.S. food and agricultural corporations. Their latest protest came last Saturday in southern France where angry farmers driving tractors dumped peaches and six tons of manure in front of McDonald's outlets 100 farmers in the southwestern town of Montauban dumped peaches in front of a McDonald's and a large supermarket. 400 fruit and vegetable growers blocked access to a supermarket and a McDonald's in Martigues. ORGANIC TEACHING: The Berkeley, California school board recently unanimously passed a measure designed to encourage students not only to eat their organic vegetables, but to grow them. With this new policy, Berkeley schools will have gardens and will incorporate eating, gardening and nutrition into the curriculum, i.e., a garden planning session might be a math exercise calculating the area of vegetable plots. "We want the cafeteria to be a learning experience," said Tom Bates, a former state assemblyman who now heads the Berkeley Food Systems Project, which has been working with the district on the new food policy. Reviewing current food serve in the schools, Bates notes that "calling it airplane food would be a compliment. School kitchens and cooks are disappearing, and instead you're seeing cafeterias with warmers to heat prepackaged food. We want to break that." AGRIBUSINESS EXAMINER [EMAIL PROTECTED] CITY DESK UPI: Black religious leaders in Boston plan to sit down with state health officials and members of the AIDS Action Committee to find ways of combating the high number of AIDS cases and HIV infections among African Americans Health officials think the churches could be a valuable tool in fighting the disease. In Massachusetts, blacks account for 26 percent of all AIDS cases, but make up just 6 percent of the population CORRECTION An errant sentence caused yesterday's item about 21 homeless congressmen to be undecipherable. The 21 are not living on the street but in their offices. According to columnists Jack Anderson and Douglas Cohn, Rep. Ray LaHood, who has been in charge of congressional retreats the past few years, said the issue of sleeping in the offices
[CTRL] WACO / FBI / US Army Delta Force / incendiary device admission (finally)
-Caveat Lector- found on the net Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart E X C L U S I V E More questions for FBI DPS official says Army force present at Waco siege © 1999, The Dallas Morning News Army help: The chairman of Texas' Department of Public Safety said Wednesday that federal authorities need to investigate and fully explain why members of the U.S. Army's secret Delta Force anti-terrorist unit were present on the day the Branch Davidian compound burned. http://dallasnews.com/ FBI admits using pyrotechnic devices in Waco siege Updated 2:21 PM ET August 25, 1999 By John Poirier WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In an about-face, the FBI admits that federal agents fired tear gas canisters capable of causing a fire at the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas in 1993, a law enforcement official said Wednesday. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990825/14/crime-davidians More questions for FBI DPS official says Army force present at Waco siege http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/0826tsw1davidians.htm 08/26/99 By Lee Hancock / The Dallas Morning News ©1999, The Dallas Morning News A congressional committee chairman vowed a "thorough investigation" Wednesday as the FBI began its own inquiry and formally conceded that its agents "may have fired" pyrotechnic devices on the last day of the 1993 Branch Davidian siege. In Texas, the chairman of the Department of Public Safety said that federal authorities also need to investigate and explain why members of the U.S. Army's secret Delta Force anti-terrorist unit were present the day the compound burned. "Everyone involved knows they were there. If there is an issue, it was what was their role at the time," said James B. Francis Jr. of Dallas. "Some of the evidence that I have reviewed and been made aware of is very problematical as to the role of Delta Force at the siege." A Department of Defense document released under the federal Freedom of Information Act confirmed that members of a classified Army Special Forces unit were in the area when the FBI's hostage rescue team used tanks to assault the compound with tear gas. The document, written by one of two U.S. Army officers who met with Attorney General Janet Reno to help the FBI persuade her to approve their tear gas assault, stated that three Special Forces personnel observed "the assault . . . and were cautioned not to video the operation." A Justice Department spokesman said late Wednesday that he could not comment on the matter. FBI officials could not be reached for comment. Mr. Francis said Wednesday evening that Ms. Reno and FBI Director Louis Freeh need to expand their new inquiry on the FBI's use of military pyrotechnic tear gas to address "what the Delta Force did on April 19 and whether their role was advisory or operational." The Special Forces document, dated May 1993, states that the military personnel sent did not give any technical advice and were warned about the legal restrictions prohibiting U.S. military personnel from engaging in civilian law-enforcement operations. The four-page document was provided to The Dallas Morning News by a Tucson, Ariz., lawyer who has filed federal lawsuits and lengthy Freedom of Information Act requests to gather information on the siege. Defense Department officials blacked out the names of the soldiers and their unit before releasing the document because they said that information was a military secret. Not surprised Danny O. Coulson, a former FBI official who served as founding commander of the bureau's hostage rescue team, said Wednesday night that he had no independent recollection of the Army Delta operators' presence but would not be surprised if they were there. "There's a possibility they may have come as observers, and they may have put on FBI raid jackets so they could keep their cover," he said. "There was a Delta team at the Atlanta prison riot. There was a military commando team at the prison riot in Oakdale, La. They were used primarily for breaching operations and as observers and advisers." He said the deployment of the special operations units in both 1987 prison riots required a formal presidential waiver of the federal Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the use of military personnel in domestic incidents. Mr. Coulson, who was deputy assistant FBI director during the siege and helped supervise operations from Washington, was the FBI's tactical commander at the Atlanta prison riot. "I would be surprised if they did anything wrong," he said. "They come, frankly, to learn. They come to watch us and learn in case they have to operate in a similar environment or if, for some reason, they have to operate here in the United States." The FBI's hostage rescue team has regularly trained with Delta Force in the past, Mr. Coulson and other officials have said. Delayed admission The bureau's acknowledgment that the FBI used military tear gas capable of sparking fires came after two days
[CTRL] HateWatch News for 8/27/99 (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: 26 Aug 1999 22:06:46 - From: HateWatch Updates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HateWatch News for 8/27/99 HateWatch Updates - http://hatewatch.org HateWatch News for August 27, 1999 **Jury not able to agree beating was hate crime** A Spokane jury could not agree Wednesday whether the beating of a black man this summer at a pub was a hate crime. After a three-day trial in Spokane County Superior Court, jurors deadlocked 10-2 in favor of convicting Daniel Stout of malicious harassment on the basis of the victim's race. http://www.spokane.net/news-story-body.asp?Date=082699ID=s627348cat= **Reservation beating probed as hate crime** A white man was beaten, kicked in the head and left for dead with a rope around his neck on an Indian reservation in what the sheriff described as a hate crime. Three Indians were arrested. Brad Young, 21, was in critical condition Wednesday. He was found early Saturday, about seven hours after he was beaten on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. http://www.pioneerplanet.com/seven-days/1/news/docs/026851.htm **Content of fliers was legal, lawyers say** Attorneys for two former Miami University students accused of posting racist and anti-gay fliers on campus said their clients' actions are legal and protected by the First Amendment. Brad Allen, 22, of Shaker Heights, and Nathaniel Snow, 22, of Cincinnati, are on trial in Butler County Area I Court on misdemeanor charges of criminal mischief and criminal trespass. They are accused of posting more than 50 racist and anti-gay messages in the university's Center for Black Culture and Learning on Oct. 30, 1998, that led to student demonstrations demanding a meeting with university President James Garland. http://www.dispatch.com/pan/news/trialxnws.html **Hate-crime suspects were set for trouble** When the arrest went down, Benjamin Matthew Williams and his brother were ready for trouble. Matthew Williams was wearing a bulletproof vest and a fanny pack that held a 9 mm Glock pistol, as well as the driver's license and credit cards of a man who had been found shot to death a week before...The two men also are the prime suspects in the arsons at three Sacramento synagogues June 18. They're also under suspicion in the later fire at a building that houses a Sacramento abortion clinic. http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local01_19990825.html **KKK Anti-Gay Recruitment in Maryland** The Ku Klux Klan distributed some 1,200 flyers bearing two Bible verses against homosexuality in Frederick County, Maryland on August 23. The flyers also bore a photo of a group of Klansmen dressedin robes and hoods and asked recipients to join the KKK by mailing $30 to a post office box in Libertytown. A Klan spokesperson told reporters this was a routine membership drive, in which the flyers were randomly left on doorsteps. http://www.planetout.com/pno/news/article.html?1999/08/25/5 __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger Service lets you stay in touch instantly with your family friends - Visit http://messenger.msn.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Giuliani Just Another Guido Hypocrite!
-Caveat Lector- Bush Whackers Hit Rudy rips press over George W. drug issue By KENNETH R. BAZINET and FRANK LOMBARDI Daily News Staff Writers Mayor Giuliani yesterday launched a blazing defense of embattled Texas Gov. George W. Bush by denouncing the media as "voyeurs" for pressing the presidential candidate on whether he has used cocaine. "Pursuing people's personal lives has become a sickness, and it's going to hurt ultimately in getting the right people in politics," Giuliani admonished reporters at City Hall. Texas Gov. George W. Bush Bush, the Republican presidential front-runner, repeatedly has refused to flatly admit or deny having used cocaine. But under intensified media questioning last week, Bush indicated he hadn't used illegal drugs for at least 25 years. Giuliani a former federal prosecutor who built his career on a tough law-and-order philosophy accused reporters of digging into candidates' private lives "because it's fun and it makes news and it sells newspapers. "I think this is voyeurism, not legitimate pursuit of issues," the Republican mayor and probable U.S. Senate candidate fumed when asked about the Bush situation. The purpose of the media grilling, the mayor argued, is "hounding people who are in public office." Giuliani, who has praised, but not formally endorsed, Bush's candidacy, argued that the campaign should focus on the job Bush has done as governor of Texas and what Bush says he would do as President. "I respect the decisions that Gov. Bush has made about his own privacy," Giuliani added. Asked if he had used pot or cocaine, the mayor noted that he has answered "no" to that question. But he said he now regrets having answered because, "it's really none of your business if I did or I didn't." President Clinton who as a candidate said he tried marijuana but didn't inhale also was drawn into the drug debate yesterday. At the President's vacation retreat on Martha's Vineyard, White House spokesman Joe Lockhart confirmed published reports that Clinton has denied ever using cocaine. With First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton nursing a cold, the First Family spent yesterday relaxing at their 20-acre oceanside Vineyard retreat. The Clintons have no public events scheduled for the remainder of their week-long stay on the Massachusetts resort island. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Poll-Ooo-Shun
-Caveat Lector- From www.publicampaign.org/ouch.html#chemical OUCH! #29 -- August 18, 1999 Chemical Industry Keeps You in the Dark IGNORANCE IS BLISS In 1990, after the Bhopal chemical plant disaster in India, Congress moved to help prevent similar accidents at facilities using extremely hazardous substances. Thousands of facilities that use certain flammable and toxic chemicals were required, under the Clean Air Act, to submit risk management plans to the Environmental Protection Agency and state and local governments. The deadline: June 21, 1999. The core idea was that the public has a right to know about the chemical hazards in their communities, and that local emergency response personnel need advance information to prepare for and prevent possible chemical accidents. In addition, by allowing researchers to collect and compare information about accident risks at existing facilities, safety advocates could set priorities for hazard reduction and determine which companies were taking necessary precautions and which companies were needlessly endangering their neighbors. All that prudent legislation has gone out the window with the passage of the Chemical Safety Information, Site Security and Fuels Regulatory Relief Act (S. 880). Signed into law by President Clinton in early August, the new law blocks the EPA from posting on the Internet any information about a facility's "offsite-consequence analysis" (that's bureaucrateze for information describing how dangerous a facility currently is)--including worst-case scenarios involving toxic releases or explosions. Only "qualified researchers" may request access to that information, but they are explicitly prohibited from disseminating it in any form, under pain of criminal fines. The only thing companies have to do to demonstrate that they are taking any precautionary action is hold a meeting with local stakeholders sometime in the next six months, summarizing the issues around any worst-case scenario involving a local facility. So much for the public's right-to-know. This approach can be summarized as follows: if there is a danger of a chemical accident, the best solution is to keep the public in the dark as to how bad the risks are and what, if anything, is being done about it. This is a classic case of how moneyed interests, focused hard on a narrow concern, can easily defeat the broader interest when the public isn't paying attention. The chemical industry led the charge for S. 880, its influence rooted in $4 million in PAC donations, soft money and large individual ($200 and up) contributions to congressional candidates in 1997-98. Its allies in the food processing industry, oil and gas producers and refiners, and agricultural fertilizer sectors--all of which are also subject to the Clean Air Act--gave another $22.5 million. Three-quarters of that went to Republicans. The leading sponsors of S. 880 were Senator James Inhofe (R-OK), who raised $432,730 from those industries between 1993 and 1998, and Rep. Tom Bliley (R-VA), recipient of $93,261. Against them were a host of consumer and environmental groups, none of them major campaign contributors. The chemical industry claims that S. 880 was needed to prevent dangerous information from falling into the hands of terrorists, giving them a road map of which plants to attack. Never mind that the EPA had specifically exempted any classified information from being released in facility risk management plans. And forget that from 1987 to 1996, there have been 600,000 accidents reported involving hazardous chemicals--and not one has been caused by terrorists. As it is, S. 880 contains no provisions to improve site security, reduce hazards through inherent safety, or harden facilities against attack. Two-hundred-fifty people, plant-workers as well as people living nearby, die each year from chemical accidents. The more the public knows about those risks, the more the pressure that proper precautions be taken. Which is apparently the last thing the chemical industry wants. - OUCH! is a regular e-mail bulletin on how private money in politics hurts average citizens, published by Public Campaign, a non-partisan, non-profit organization devoted to comprehensive campaign finance reform. Every day, we pay more as consumers and taxpayers for special interest subsidies and boondoggles because of our system of privately financed elections. It's time for a change. Help spread the word! Send copies of this message to your friends and join the growing movement for real campaign finance reform. If you would like to add yourself to the OUCH! listserv, send a one-line e-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] reading "subscribe ouch". To remove yourself from the list, send a message to the same address reading "unsubscribe ouch".
[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Thursday, August 26, 1999
-Caveat Lector- from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS subject: AANEWS for August 26, 1999 A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S #630~~ 8/26/99 http://www.atheists.org ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/ http://www.americanatheist.org - A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS "Leading The Way For Atheist Civil Rights And The Separation Of State and Church" -- In This Issue... * Judge halts voucher program in Cleveland * Southern Regional Atheist Meet, September 26 in Chattanooga * Dobson claims pastors vulnerable to smut surfing! * Jersey Atheist group organizing * Resources * About this list... GRUDGE MATCH LOOMING IN COURT AS JUDGE BLOCKS CLEVELAND VOUCHER PROGRAM FOR RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS In a major setback to government funding of private, sectarian schools, a U.S. District Court has put the brakes on Cleveland's voucher programming, saying that it violated the separation of church and state. The action put an immediate freeze on payments to the parents of some 4,000 students covered by the four-year old program who attend 56 private schools in the metropolitan area. According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer newspapers, more than half of those students are in schools operated by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Cleveland. As a result of the decision, parents who have children in the voucher schools will be responsible for any tuition if they decide to keep their youngsters enrolled. Public school classes began yesterday, and a spokesperson for the Cleveland school system that that there was "no problem" in absorbing new students from the religious and private schools. U.S. District Judge Solomon Oliver, Jr. ruled on Tuesday that "The Cleveland program has the primary effect of advancing religion," and noted that the voucher program "provided unrestricted grants to parents as tuition reimbursement for their children to attend nonpublic schools, the bulk of which is concededly sectarian in orientation." Oliver's decision had mixed impact on parents and students participating in voucher schools. As of Wednesday, classes at 20 of the 56 schools covered by the program had resumed; in some cases, like St. Francis School, parents were told that they would not be held liable for any tuition fees during the legal appeal to the judge's ruling. Sister Karen Somerville, principle at the school warned, that "If it doesn't get overturned, the parents may have to pay," but added: "Judging from the phone calls I'm getting, parents will do everything they can to keep their child here." The Cleveland voucher plan began as an "experiment" four years ago, and provides mostly lower-income families with up to $2.250 per child that can be used for tuition at private and sectarian schools. The first payments for this year's program are due in October; but Judge Oliver opined that he was unlikely to reconsider his ruling. The Cleveland program was considered a pioneering experiment, and was the first voucher program to fund religious schools. An earlier voucher scheme in Milwaukee which began in 1990 excluded sectarian schools, but included Parochial and other religious schools once the Cleveland program was established. Reacting to Wednesday's ruling, Ohio Attorney General Betty D. Montgomery filed an emergency appeal with the 6th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in Cincinnati. Judge Oliver's decision was also criticized by the Cleveland Plain Dealer, which in an editorial titled "Voucher vulture," said that the "last-minute" ruling inconvenienced families and schools because of "an act of arrogance, carelessness and utter disregard for the needs of children across the city." But opponents of the voucher program had warned for years that it could be found unconstitutional, and have a negative impact on Cleveland's already cash-strapped public school system. In addition, state education officials had recommended removal of three private schools from coverage by the program due to unsafe conditions and unlicensed staff members. A Blatant Religious Message... Oliver's opinion included citation of the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court ruling in COMMITTEE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION v. NYQUIST, where a New York State law establishing vouchers for private schools was invalidated. The high court noted that the program advanced religion and violated the establishment clause of the Constitution since most of the schools receiving public monies were sectarian. Oliver said that a similar situation existed in the Cleveland scheme, and pointed to a section of a handbook for parents from one voucher school which decreed, "a child needs to hear and learn the word of God constantly, and this can be done only when the entire curriculum and the life of the school is grounded in the word of God and dedicated to the purpose of showing the love of the Savior to a world which
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990826d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Cthulhu didn't arise from the deep during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Beware swarms of 'smart dust'. CLEANLINESS freaks have a new rationale for their pathological hatred of dust: it could soon be spying on them. Packed full of sensors, lasers and communications transceivers, motes of "smart dust" are being designed to communicate with one another. They could be used for a range of applications from weather monitoring to spying. Make a clean sweep of it: http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/ns-bso082499.html : Are you surrounded by dust that's smarter than you? Are you dumber than dirt? Do you feel obsolete, relinquished to the dustbin of history? Already? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Nanobots And Aerobots To Explore The Planets. A swarm of cunning robots - some only several inches wide - soon may swarm, float, walk, swim, fly, creep, burrow and hop across the alien worlds of the solar system. Smaller, cheaper, faster: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/nano.htm : Would you like to explore the Solar system? Are you a robot? D'ya want to have your consciousness implanted into an explorer 'bot? Will you return?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Cleric: Rushdie wasn't to be killed. DUBAI, U.A.E.(AP) - Iran's Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini did not really intend to have Salman Rushdie killed when he condemned the British author to death for blaspheming Islam, a moderate Iranian cleric said. Khomeini just wanted to publicize the case and discourage others from insulting Islam. A slap on the wrist - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560881535-755 : Do you take death threats and bounties seriously? Have you ever issued or received a death threat? Have you ever been chased by or led stone-throwing mobs? When/why? [Note: I've had two such mobs chase me - it's not much fun.] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China: Farmers formed secret army. BEIJING (AP) Authorities say they have broken up a secret, private army set up by farmers in southwestern China, arresting as many as 20 members and charging 10 with subversion. Dozens had joined the unauthorized militia in the two years since farmer Yang Jiahua began recruiting in the hilly countryside near Chongqing city. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560879855-73e What's your favorite militia? Would you rather join/run a militia in China, Bosnia, Angola, Texas? Are you subversive? Will you kill or be killed soon? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New ancient ape skeleton studied. WASHINGTON (AP) A baboon-sized ape that lived in East Africa about 15 million years ago may have been among the first primates to leave the treetops and live on the ground, a key step in the evolutionary path that theoretically led eventually to humans. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560882061-41a : Did you evolve theoretically or really? Are you still evolving, or static? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Canada's Military Secrets Posted On Web: http://www.canoe.ca/CalgaryNews/cs.cs-08-26-0019.html # Hackers Offered $50,000 To Crack E-Mail: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990826/00/net-hacking-email?printstory=1 # Yahoo Calendar: What About User Privacy? http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/238/business/A_wide_open_calendar+.shtml # Programmers get glimpse of software project - geriatric vaporware: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560870251-fde # Gates said 'Pirates' film got it wrong - Satanic link omitted: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560870904-428 # Update on status (nonstatus?) of WebGov: http://idg.net/go.cgi?id=153726 @ World Biographical Index: online index of over 2 million short biographies for people who lived in North South America, Western Central Europe, Australia, Oceania, and New Zealand. You can search by name, occupation, year of birth, year of death, and year cited. You can also specify specific archives to search. http://www.biblio.tu-bs.de/acwww25u/wbi_en/ # Road to enlightenment - Dalai Lama purifies Indiana: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560879714-93d # Calcuttans honor Mother Teresa - sacred cows poop on her grave: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560880527-ceb # IGNORANCE IS BLISS - Chemical Industry Keeps You in the Dark: www.publicampaign.org/ouch.html#chemical @ HateWatch News - http://hatewatch.org # Jury not able to agree beating was hate crime: http://www.spokane.net/news-story-body.asp?Date=082699ID=s627348cat= # Reservation beating probed as hate crime: http://www.pioneerplanet.com/seven-days/1/news/docs/026851.htm # Content of racist/antigay fliers was legal, lawyers say:
[CTRL] j] Vatican Supported Balkan War? A-albionic vs Paranoia
-Caveat Lector- A-albionic Research [Non] Weekly Up-date 8-26-99 In This Issue ^ 1. A-albionic Name Taken in Vain 2. Discussion Group Archive 3. Up-dates to "Super Catalog" ^ 1. A-albionic Name Taken in Vain ^ Our name was taken in vain in the subject article by Al Hidell which appeared in _Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader_ Issue 21, Fall 1999 (page 28), PO Box 1041, Providence, RI, 02901 [$20.00/year]: "The A-albionic conspiracy research group takes the LaRouche viewpoint a step further. In their view, Britain is indeed a major force working for world domination. However, they believe that there is another force battling Her Majesty behind-the-scenes: the Vatican. In the case of the Balkan conflict, it is interesting to note that the British are on the side of war, while the Vatican has repeatedly condemned the violence." Lloyd Responds: "Al Hidell" has it totally wrong on this one! The Vatican has not condemned the Balkans conflict other than to urge peace as usual! When one compares the Pope's shrill condemnation of the Gulf War (no blood for oil) backed-up by his US Bishops shouting the same, one can only presume that the Pope supports the Balkans war as a chess move in his Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals [EU] program and the Church's long-time rivalry with and desire to dominate the Eastern Orthodox Church! This Virgin Mary obsessed Pope has long cherished the Fatima prophesy of "converting Russia" to Roman Catholicism. Further, the Balkans war conforms nicely to the Pope's proposed alliance with Islam..."better a Saracen than a Gnostic" or the geopolitics of "faith versus modernism". Our analysis indicates that Britain switched sides in the Balkans mess [under the cover of putting the Labor Party in power] in a Geopolitical judo-move designed to array China and Russia against America. The original Bush-British policy was to support Belgrade in opposition to the Vatican-German-EU policy of supporting Catholic Croatia and Islamic Bosnia. After the Clinton victory in America, Britain's policy became untenable and had to be abandoned. Now, Britain in a clever judo-move is trying to induce America and the European Union (EU) to over-extend and crash on the rocks of a renewed anti-American block lead by Russia and China even while attempting to enshrine NATO as the overlord of the EU. It is very important to note that Britain was able to maintain its anti-Iraq policy [supported by the Queen herself in an address to Congress after the Gulf War] by the clever inside-outside strategy of supporting the impeachment drive within America and offering the friendly hand of fellow left-liberal Tony Blair in friendship from without. In spite of a disinclination and Vatican opposition, Clinton renewed and preserved the genocidal hot/cold war against Iraq. Hidell has a section head on page 28 that sums-up the essence of his misconceptions: "The US: Dominated or Dominant". Lloyd Responds: Of course, the US is dominant as the only "super power" nation state. The question should be, which social/economic power organs are dominant in determining its policies at this time? A-albionic thinks the Clinton Administration has primarily functioned at the behest of the Vatican based on Clinton's Georgetown-Jesuit-CIA introduction to world politics under the tutelage of Jesuit disinformation and propaganda agent, the Irishman Carroll Quigley. This situation was made possible by the connivance of the Rockefeller interests which are the long-time rivals of the Queen's "Empire of the City" financiers for world domination of natural resources, international trade, governments, and the major Corporations. 2. Discussion Group Archives ^ Frequently, I am asked if we keep an archive of the New Paradigms Discussion Group [prj] by folks desperate to reference old posts. No, we don't keep an archive, but Deja News (now deja.com) does as we up-load most if not quite all issues of prj-digest to alt.conspiracy and other NewsGroups. You can reach Deja News at: http://www.deja.com/ To look at various prj-digests by issue/date, use the regular search and search for prj-digest which always occurs in the Subject line. If you are looking for key words in the text of old posts, be sure to use "Power Search" only! Only "Power Search" checks message text as well as subject text.Deja.com tries to encourage you not to use "Power Search" -- Use it anyway. **E-Mail Discussion Group mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] message text: info prj 3. Recent Up-dates to Super Catalog to order any of the books below, click: http://a-albionic.com/merchform2.html Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Fritz Springmeier, 1999 Paperback, 598 pages, Order # $24.95 Finally, the
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4
-Caveat Lector- World Biographical Index: online index of over 2 million short biographies for people who lived in North South America, Western Central Europe, Australia, Oceania, and New Zealand. You can search by name, occupation, year of birth, year of death, and year cited. You can also specify specific archives to search. I'm not in it. I don't know whether to feel insulted or relieved. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: To all you gun haters out there!]
-Caveat Lector- Don Allen wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 05:58 PM 08/25/1999 -0400, Bill wrote: -Caveat Lector- Ah I see...so you are a good judge of idiots? What makes that so? Are they people who disagree with you, or do not posess the correct aura of gentility? People like this, whether you like it or not, are the reason you can even say what you just did. And hopefully you will always be able to It was funny Bill. That someone would turn in a bunch of non-working weapons, get a bunch of money in return and turn around and use that money to buy working weapons is priceless. A great way to beat the system. :-) Aaaah ha ha ha ha. What a pisser! You guys have a GREAT sense of humor. What that pathetic gun loony did ripping off D.C. is just as funny as anything Richard Pryor ever came up with. Joshua2 can whine and pout all he wants. TFB. Stick around and watch him have a whole series of knee-jerk responses to this thread, it's usually hilarious. A post like yours is like waving a red flag in front of a bull, to him. He'll rant on and on for days. His blather is great for lots of yuks. :-) Don http://www.fwpd.net/dona/tesla/teslacoil.htm Isn't it wonderful that we can all laugh together? But you know what Don? I will laugh last. And you know it. So tonight when you grease up the old piece and take it to bed with you, look down its barrel lovingly, tell it how much you'll miss it when it's gone, and get ready to say good bye. Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha. " He who laughs last, laughs last." Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT 8/26/99
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X THURSDAY, AUGUST 26, 1999 21:41:51 ET X EX-CIA OFFICER SAYS SECRET ARMY UNIT 'PRESENT, UP FRONT AND CLOSE' DURING ASSAULT; MILITARY ROLE AT WACO JUSTIFIED, GOV REPORT SAYS A former CIA officer tells Friday's DALLAS MORNING NEWS that he learned from Delta Force commandos that members of the secret Army unit were "present, up front and close" in helping the FBI in the final tear-gas assault on the Branch Davidian compound. The former officer, Gene Cullen, tells the paper that heard detailed accounts of the military's active involvement from "three or four" anti-terrorist Delta commandos as he worked with them on an overseas assignment in 1993. The paper reports evidence in the hands of Texas law enforcement personnel may support the account given to Cullen. "I'm advised there is some evidence that may corroborate" the allegation that Delta Force participated in the assault, said James B. Francis Jr., chair of the Texas Department of Public Safety. A Pentagon spokesman who spoke on condition of anonymity denied Thursday that any U.S. military units were involved in the assault, "as far as I know." [Pentagon policy barred him from any public discussion of Delta Force, even the possibility of its existence.] Meanwhile, any U.S. military assistance at the April 1993 Waco siege was jusified, according to the General Accounting Office. The ATLANTA JOURNAL CONSTITUTION is reporting on Friday: The GAO, which acts as Congress' investigative arm, states in a new report that the military's direct involvement in Waco -- which included the use of Army, Air Force, Texas and Alabama National personnel and equipment -- was lawful due to federal antidrug laws. Early reports from local law enforcement claimed that the Davidians were running a methamphetamine laboratory from their Mt. Carmel compound. AJC's Julia Malone quotes GAO's Carol Schuster, who was in charge of the report: "The drug connection legitimizes providing military assistance without reimbursement." Writes Malone: "The report said no formal standard exists for justifying a military role in drug investigations, giving military officials 'considerable discretion' in deciding whether to assist law enforcement agencies." The report concludes that $982,400 of military dollars were spent on helicopters, tanks, a grenade launcher, as well as "Army Special Operations observers". No evidence of drug manufacturing was ever found at the Davidian compound. MORE... Military memos obtained by the WASHINGTON POST show the military provided training to FBI agents in the use of the 40mm grenade launchers during Waco. The military also lent "sophisticated technological support, including experimental surveillance robots and a television satellite signal jammer." X X X X X AFTER HELL RIDE, TARSES DECLARES: I NEVER WANT TO BE A TV EXECUTIVE AGAIN! Ex-ABC Jamie Tarses tells NYT Bill Carter that she is "an incredibly happy person'' after making her decision to leave the network. Tarses declares: "I definitely never want to be an executive again." On Thursday Tarses, 35, quit her job as Cinderella of ABC's entertainment division. She was the first woman to serve as programming head at one of the three major broadcast networks. "At some point you have to wonder, when does your personal happiness factor in?" Tarses tells Carter in fresh runs. Earlier this week NEWSWEAK magazine's website reported that Tarses would probably be asked to resign this week. But ABC Group chair Bob Iger rushed a statement saying the story was "simply untrue." What was true, according to Carter, who may now be set to write a book about Tarses's hell ride at the network, was that Iger made clear how he expected a new management structure to work at ABC -- a new structure that turned out to be unacceptable to Tarses. Tarses tells Carter that the new management reorganization at ABC TV, ordered by DISNEY, had led to conflicts, creating a confusing hierarchy of three executives in charge of programming and development. "It's a clean break," Tarses says of her exit. "I just don't want to play anymore," Tarses tell Brian Lowry of the LOS ANGELES TIMES in an interview. "The work is a blast. The rest of this nonsense I don't need I can't tell you how happy I am." Tarses had two years left on her contract. Happine$$ terms were not disclosed. --- Filed by Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for updates (c)DRUDGE REPORT 1999 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being
[CTRL] Fw: *EXTREMELY URGENT/Full-scale assault by NWO/US to be Attacked; 50,000 Civilians Rounded Up
-Caveat Lector- We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage - Original Message - From: NewsHawk Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 5:56 AM Subject: *EXTREMELY URGENT/Full-scale assault by NWO/US to be "Attacked"; 50,000 Civilians Rounded Up 8.26.99 EXTREMELY URGENT! Full-scale assault by NWO US to be "Attacked"; 50,000 Civilians Rounded Up See the Citizens For UN Base Disclosure website http://users.sedona.net/~redstone/bar.htm Welcome! Have you considered the possibility that the U.S. Government is taking part in clandestine activities extraordinary in nature? You may have, you may have not, but you probably wouldn't consider such a notion to be implausible. Yet, consider this: There exists today, and has existed for decades, a large underground military facility in a moderately isolated area in the middle of Arizona, USA. This massive facility is entirely concealed underground, with possibly outer portions used for entrances, etc. It remains to this day highly secret, and few know of its existence. Our two year investigation of such claims is presented on this web site with photos, eye witness testimony, and an extensive log of events. -- Breaking News July 29th, 1999 (The following is a special report unrelated to the information contained on the CUNBD web site.) CUNBD has been in direct contact with an agent within a powerful government intelligence agency. This agent's name, address, phone number and position with this intelli- gence agency has been obtained. Other validative info has also been obtained. (More info at CRTF web site below). He reveals, if not confirms, that at least 50,000 U.S. citizens are to be "rounded up" and taken to "concentration camps" by the U.S. Government in collusion with foreign governments and bodies. This may take place sometime after or during September 9th through 13th, 1999. This mass culling of people will be conducted in raid-like fashion as "targets" are covertly taken from their homes, placed in unmarked vans, transport vehicles, and large Chinook helicopters. NATO, United Nations, and foreign troops will be used for this "round up". The people targeted will be sent to "concentration camps", in the words of the informant, where they will be killed. Those targeted likely include militia members, anti-government activists, conspiracy theorists, and so-called "patriots" and proponents of the U.S. Constitution. This event will occur in accord with another "planned" event. Sometime during the dates of September 9th through 13th (these dates are tentative) at least ten Neutron bombs will be detonated in all major U.S. coastal cities. Cities named as targets include Seattle, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, New York, Boston and Miami. The bombs, according to the source, were brought into the U.S. "two weeks ago", or in mid-July, through Port Arthur in Texas. This operation is being facilitated by the Russians. However, factions of the U.S. and British governments are fully aware of it and will do nothing to stop it. In fact, in concert with the denotation of these nuclear weapons the named governments will plan for the "invasion" of a "peace- keeping" force in the U.S. These forces will also be used in Nazi-like fashion to seize dissidents and so-called "threats". The informant mentions the "Red list", of which he and 50,000 others are included, along with the "Blue" and "Green" lists. "Those on the Red well be taken to FEMA concentration camps and immediately executed. The Blue will also be taken to FEMA camps and be given the choice between 're-education' or execution. The Green well be 're-educated' then returned to what is left of society", said the source. The source has also indicated that various para-military person- nel are currently being contracted by the Justice Department and the FBI to carry out specialized "assassinations" of key people within the militia and right-wing movements. These planned killings will begin on August 4th of this year and continue on quietly thereafter. Update August 19th, 1999 The source reports more information to us: "To my knowledge it still scheduled on 9/11/99. However, things change. We made the move on the militia/patriot groups so public that they 'rescheduled' that heinous event. Instead, they slowly move a little closer each week by staging maneuvers. They could be rushed in September, or in October. The militias in Michigan think they will be outright attacked in October. That is what all these rainstorms and landslides are about 'up here'. All man made, and they are used as cover within which to move men, supplies, etc. closer into position. And they practice containment exercises." We cannot vouch for the accuracy of the above claims! -- The sections of this web site are password-protected. If you have
[CTRL] Urgent Action on Chiapas
-Caveat Lector- To: US Civil Society From: Mexico Solidarity Network Re: Request for urgent action regarding recent events in Chiapas Over the past two weeks there has been an alarming increase in militarization and a near state of siege in indigenous communities in Chiapas, Mexico. The following letter, signed by thirteen non-governmental organizations in Chiapas, requests our urgent assistance. The situation is critical and appears to be deteriorating. Following the letter is a set of recommended actions. Please act today. To national and international civil society To national and international human rights organizations Since August 14, the Mexican army has sent 10,000 soldiers into new camps in the Lacandon Jungle. For the first time since 1994, the army has penetrated the Montes Azules biosphere where the general command of the EZLN is presumed to live. Approximately thirty communities in the region are in a virtual state of siege. Army troops attacked the inhabitants of Amador Hernandez in the municipality of Ocosingo with US-made tear gas, wounding several indigenous men and women. Access to the community has been obstructed, even for the people who live there. The army has taken possession of lands near the community and has surrounded them with barbed wire. The community is being terrorized by constant airplane and helicopter flights over the area and by the presence of Public Security forces. On Thursday August 19, PRI supporters from Taniperlas detained three members of the Fray Bartolomé Human Rights Center, who were on their way to investigate the arbitrary detention of three people from the community Viejo Velasco. One of the community members, Pedro Gómez Aguilar, has been missing since July 23. The PRI supporters detained the human rights workers for two hours, threatening them and repeating xenophobic rhetoric such as "you are foreigners and are coming to impede the progress of this area," even though the detainees were all Mexican. The PRI members also told the human rights workers that only the Ocosingo municipal authorities could give permission to travel through that area, and if they tried to enter again without authorization they would have to pay the consequences. Finally, the PRI supporters gave them half an hour to leave, threatening that if they did not, members of the community would burn their vehicle. On August 21, a Mexican doctor and two foreign human rights observers were brutally beaten by a group of PRI supporters who were blocking the road immediately after a military checkpoint in the community of Vicente Guerrero, municipality of Las Margaritas. The PRI supporters sexually assaulted the female doctor. So far, no authority has responded to the formal complaints filed. The substitute governor of Chiapas, Roberto Albores Guillen, has mounted xenophobic campaign. In an unprecedented act, the xenophobia has even been directed at Mexican citizens, as in the aforementioned cases. Officials have also threatened to expel from Chiapas Mexican actress Ofelia Medina, who is known for her strong work around human rights abuses. The National Institute of Immigration has increased its presence at checkpoints on the roads to indigenous communities and is expelling many foreigners using the so-called "definitive departure order." It is also worrisome that this week Immigration agents have been visiting hotels in San Cristobal, searching for names and room numbers of tourists in order to give them citations. Army troops have, on many occasions, violated the Mexican Constitution. Examples include violations of the right to free transit, free expression and article 129, which states: "In peace-time, no military authority can carry out functions other than those that have a direct connection to military discipline. There will only be permanent and fixed military commanders in the bases, forts, and military warehouses that are directly dependent on the federal government or in the camps, barracks, and deposits that are established, outside of population centers, to station troops." The army is also violating its own Military Justice Code. No sanctions have been applied by Executive, Legislative or Judicial authorities and no one has been prosecuted for these violations. In fact, these government officials have been co-participants in the unconstitutional operations, maintaining a climate of terror in indigenous communities. At the same time, the state government is agitating PRI militants from indigenous communities to block roads and prevent national and international observation in areas where the most grave injustices have occurred, so no witnesses can attest to these human rights violations. We respectfully and urgently call for visitors, observers or accompaniers for the above-mentioned indigenous communities, in order to restrain the repressive actions orchestrated by the federal government and carried out by the state government and members of the Mexican National Army.
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WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Russia the CIS
Bank of New York probe exposes ties between Western financiers
and Russian Mafia
By James Brookfield
27 August 1999
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When the history of the first ten years of capitalist restoration
in Russia is written, it will have to include two fundamental
points. First, that never before was so much money stolen by so
few people in so short a span of time. Second, that the thieves
included not only elements of the old Stalinist nomenklatura and
a new generation of Russian gangster-businessmen, but also a good
number of Western bankers and government officials.
An important chapter in this history is now unfolding in the
United States. Federal officials, working with their counterparts
in Britain and Switzerland, are engaged in an investigation of
what may be the largest money-laundering scheme in US history.
They allege that billions of dollars from Russia, some of it from
Mafia elements, were channeled through accounts at the Bank of
New York. Two BNY vice-presidents have already been suspended as
a result of the probe.
Investigators are also looking into the possibility that Russian
Mafia elements took $200 million from IMF loans that were made to
the Russian government.
A series of articles by New York Times writer Timothy L. O'Brien
has brought the salient facts to light. Sometime during the
summer of 1998 British officials investigating Russian mob
activities alerted US authorities to a link between YBM Magnex, a
front company for suspected Russian gangster Semyon Yukovich
Mogilevich, and Benex, a firm owned by Peter Berlin, the husband
of one of the now-suspended BNY vice-presidents. From October
1998 to March 1999, $4.2 billion in suspect money passed through
the BNY accounts of Benex and other firms. Investigators allowed
the account to remain open after March as they continued their
probe, and the total amount laundered may prove to be as much as
$10 billion.
The traces of criminal wrongdoing extend beyond suspected
organized crime figures like Mogilevich and point to high-level
officials in the US and Russia. Investigators are looking into
whether funds from the now insolvent Russian bank, Menatep, were
also involved in money laundering at BNY. Menatep is owned by
Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky and recently employed, as a
senior executive, Konstantin Kagalovsky.
Kagalovsky's alleged role in the money-laundering operation
highlights the criminal character of the nouveau riche in Russia,
for the most part born of the old Stalinist bureaucracy, as well
as the complicity of Western financial institutions, governments,
and academic advisors. Kagalovsky was involved at the highest
level of the Russian government, serving as an advisor and as its
representative to the IMF before moving on to Menatep in 1994.
Prominently displayed in his office at Menatep were photographs
of his meetings with George Bush, John Major and other Western
leaders.
He left Menatep to become the vice-chairman of the Lukos oil
conglomerate. This company had been acquired by Menatep on the
cheap in a loans-for-shares scheme in which the bank extended
credit to the Russian government in exchange for shares in the
company's ownership. When the bank went under, Lukos picked up
many of its assets, including its Moscow headquarters and a
number of offshore holding companies, according to a report in
Thursday's Wall Street Journal.
These holding companies are alleged to have been used to plunder
a number of other Russian companies, also owned by Menatep. In a
procedure known as tolling, the assets or products of
manufacturing firms were sold to the holding companies at
below-market prices. The offshore holding companies then sold the
goods at normal prices, keeping the profits outside Russia. The
Journal article cited one example of tolling in which $20 million
was removed from a Russian titanium plant in just one year.
Such dealings are alleged to have quickly made Mr. Kagalovsky a
very rich man. So suggests the following description, provided by
John Lloyd, a writer who recently traveled to Moscow and prepared
an article for the New York Times Magazine (Who Lost Russia?the
Russian Devolution, 15 August 1999):
[Kagalovsky] was the first reformer I had got to know when I
went to live in Russia early in 1991. Back then, he lived in a
two-room, comfortless flat in one of the massive projects that
ring Moscow. Thin and intense, he had sat me down at the kitchen
table and, battling with his halting English and my halting
Russian, talked of Adam Smith and Milton Friedman and Jeffrey
Sachs He told me of the futility of Gorbachev's reforms, the
need for policies of the strictest monetarist provenance and of
the pure
Re: [CTRL] Combatting Cult Mind Control
-Caveat Lector- Below please find information from a book with information on cult mind control. For mind control survivors, mind control could also possibly be triggered by words, phrases, sounds, etc. Sincerely, Neil Brick Hassan's web site is : http://www.shassan.com/index.htm From "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Stephen Hassan, Park Street Press c 1988 From pages 106 - 111 Asking Questions : The Key to Protecting Yourself From Destructive Cults How long have you (the recruiter) been involved ? Are you trying to recruit me into any type of organization ? If you find out you are being lied to later, get angry and walk away from the group. Can you tell me the names of all other organizations that are affiliated with this group ? Who is the top leader ? What are his background and qualifications ? Does he have any criminal record ? "a destructive cult tries to get a person's commitment first, before disclosing important information." What does your group believe ? Does it believe that the ends justify the means ? Is deception allowed in certain circumstances ? "If a person is not willing to summarize the key points of the group's beliefs right then and there, you can be sure he is hiding something." What are members expected to do once they join ? "Ask the person what he did when he first met the group and what he is doing now ? " He mentions to watch the recruiter's nonverbal reaction carefully. Is the group considered to be controversial to anyone ? The recruiter may mention that some people think they are a cult and they are all brainwashed and say something like, Do I look brainwashed ? One could respond: How are people supposed to look if they are brainwashed ? How do you feel about former members of the group ? "Any legitimate organization would never discourage contact with former members...legitimate groups would support any member's decision to leave, even though they may not like it... cult groups instill fear in members, insuring they stay away from critics and former members." What are the three things you like least about the group and the leader ? He replies to the question of asking a cult member if they are brainwashed. "It is absurd to expect an objective answer from someone under mind control." He mentions that cults will try to split friends up during indoctrination sessions. "If you find yourself in an indoctrination session, stand up and announce that you don't like being manipulated and controlled. The louder you speak, the faster you will be escorted from the room...Don't let your curiosity get the best of you. Too many people have been recruited into these organizations because they were overconfident ...Placing yourself in a potentially dangerous situation just isn't worth it." Page 57 - A Note on Hypnotism "Hypnotism relates to the unethical mind control practices of destructive cults... being in a trance is usually a pleasant, relaxing experience...it has been clinically established by psychological researchers that people's critical faculties are diminished in a trance state. One is less able to evaluate information received in a trance than when in a normal state of consciousness." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: ...he casually stuck my tooter up his nose.
Folks, What's a 'tooter'? Unable to find a definition in my dictionary
'toot' being used as a Noun.
Thursday August 26, 1:15 PM
Media Mum on Clinton Cocaine Witness List
Is it just Inside Cover, or has anybody else noticed that reporters have
suddenly cooled on their favorite pursuit: hounding George W. on the cocaine
question?
Maybe it's the recent surveys showing Americans don't care if Bush Jr. used
the drug a generation ago? But more probably it's the fact that the press'
own double standard has become so blatantly apparent that even they now
worry about seeming unfair.
Reporters have been slammed lately for not going after President Clinton on
the same question -- and the entire U.S. media knows it risks a credibility
crisis should the Bush bashing continue.
Thanks to Gennifer Flowers' Aug. 6 allegation -- first reported here --
where she claimed Clinton used a "substantial amount" of cocaine, news
editors have been faced with a stark choice: Find an allegation against
George W. as credible and damaging as Flowers' account -- or let the coke
rumors about Bush die a natural death.
Otherwise America's information gatekeepers might be forced to cover the
list of witnesses who have gone public about what they say was our
President's own nasty habit.
Besides Flowers, those witnesses could include:
SHARLINE WILSON, the former Little Rock drug dealer who told a federal grand
jury in 1990 that she watched as Bill Clinton used cocaine in her presence.
Her testimony is sealed. But she recounted the Clinton coke shocker, which
she witnessed at Little Rock's LeBistro restaurant, for the London
Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in 1994.
"'Roger the Dodger' (Clinton's brother) came back to the bar and said he
needed two grams of cocaine right away. They carried out the deal near the
ladies room. The Dodger then borrowed her 'tooter,' her 'one hitter' as she
called it, and handed it to the governor.
'I watched Bill Clinton lean up against a brick wallhe casually stuck my
tooter up his nose. He was so messed up that night, he slid down the wall
into a garbage can and just sat there like a complete idiot.'" ("The Secret
Life of Bill Clinton" by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard)
Wilson also claimed to have seen then-Governor Clinton use the drug at
Little Rock's Coachman's Inn. She is currently serving a 31 year jail
sentence which she believes is retribution for her candor.
SALLY PERDUE, the former Arkansas beauty queen who claims she had a four
month affair with the President in 1983, has told reporters that Clinton
used cocaine in her presence and that he seemed quite familiar with how the
drug is used:
"He had all the equipment laid out, like a real pro," said Perdue.
Perdue says she was threatened with violence if she didn't stay silent about
the details of her Clinton affair. She currently resides in China.
L.D. BROWN, the former Clinton bodyguard and onetime head of the Arkansas
Police Association, recounts his own suspicions about the President's
cocaine use in his book: "Crossfire: Witness in the Clinton Investigation."
Brown says he was guarding Clinton at a Boca Raton hotel when the
then-governor suddenly disappeared from sight:
"Bill stepped out for a few minutes, long enough for me to become
concerned...I first checked the bathroom. I called his name but got no
answer. Just as I was about to leave I saw his number 13's (shoes)
protruding from under one of the stalls. 'Bill, are you okay?' I asked,
knowing that there couldn't be another foot that big in Boca Raton. 'Yeah,
yeah, L.D., these damn sinuses are killing me.' As I retreated to the bar I
realized what was going onBill knew that with my prior experience in
drug enforcement, I didn't tolerate illicit drug use -- particularly 'nose
candy.'"
JANE PARKS, Roger Clinton's onetime landlady, has said that during the
mid-1980's Bill Clinton was a "frequent visitor" to his little brother's
expensive Vantage Point apartment, which shared a wall with Parks' office.
According to the account Parks has given reporters, the Clinton brothers
enjoyed partying with girls who appeared to be high school age.
"There was drug use at these gatheringsand (Parks) could clearly
distinguish Bill's voice as he chatted with his brother about the quality of
the marijuana they were smoking. She said she could also hear them talking
about the cocaine as they passed it back and forth." ("Partners in Power" by
Roger Morris)
ROGER CLINTON, the President's own half-brother, is said to have offered one
of the most damning accounts of his sibling's cocaine use. A 1984 police
surveillance videotape reportedly shows Roger telling one of his coke
connections, "Got to get some for my brother. He's got a nose like a vacuum
cleaner."
Roger himself would do time for distributing coke, as would one his older
brother's biggest campaign contributors, Danny Ray Lasater. According to
L.D. Brown, then-Gov. Clinton casually dismissed the cocaine smuggling Brown
had
[CTRL] Fwd: WACO: More Evidence Questions
WACO: MORE EVIDENCE MORE QUESTIONS (c) (8/26/99) Ian Williams Goddard In addition to recently uncovered pyrotechnic projectiles in debris from the Waco fire, The Washington Post reports that there's also video which supposedly shows a helicopter firing down into the Davidian church on the last day of the Waco siege. It's been said that such occurred on the first day, but it's news to this author that it may have also occurred on the last day (the official FLIR video shows ground-based machine gun fire at the church). As The Post reports: "Another never-before-seen piece of evidence on the siege is a videotape shot by the Texas Department of Public Safety that some experts say appears to show machine gun fire directed at the compound's occupants from an FBI helicopter the morning of April 19. Federal officials have said that no federal agents ever fired on the Davidians. The video was obtained by a Colorado filmmaker, Michael McNulty, who helped produce the documentary 'Waco: The Rules of Engagement.'" [1] Two days ago the deputy assistant FBI director at the time of the Waco siege, Danny Coulson, admitted that the FBI did use two pyrotechnic devices during the final siege on April 19, 1993. [2] But he claims, that they were used away from the main building, hours before the fire -- a claim that the official FLIR video suggest does not apply to devices other than the two devices Coulson refers to. His admission came after the discovery of what appears to be two pyrotechnic devices in previously-hidden debris. [3] Danny Coulson also told The Washington Post: "I only found out a week ago that these [pyrotechnic] rounds were fired." [1] That's a relevant point he made since I've been wondering where Mr Coulson was when federal officials swore under oath that there were absolutely NO pyrotechnic devices used. The Dallas Morning News reports that Mr Coulson also "said that they [pyrotechnic devices] were used with permission from FBI supervisors." [2] Mr Coulson was himself an FBI supervisor at the time, so this seems to suggest that approval came from supervisors over his head. These facts raise these obvious questions: 1) What "FBI supervisors" approved the use of these pyrotechnic devices? 2) Why would pyrotechnic devices be approved in conjunction with a gas attack that flooded the area with potential flammable CS power and its carrier, the solvent methylene chloride?[4] 3) Who told Danny Coulson a week ago that at least two pyrotechnic devices were used? 4) Why was Mr Coulson, founding commander of the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team and on duty at the time of the incident, not informed of the use of these devices until six-years later? Breaking news from Janet Reno [5] claims that she had no idea about the use of these pyrotechnic devices, which adds another question to my list: 5) Are we to believe that leaders are placed at the head of federal agencies so that underlings can run everything themselves in moments of the highest magnitude without direction from or even the knowledge of their agency heads? Come on! The Dallas Morning News also reported: "'The stance has always been that they used no pyrotechnics out there that day,' said David Byrne, who retired from the agency in August 1996. 'There are some serious criminal violations if they did. They have testified. They have done it before Congress. They've done it in court. They've caused other people to testify that there were no pyrotechnics used. If that turns out not to be right, then somebody will have some serious problems on a federal level,' Capt. Byrne said." [2] Frankly, I'll be interested to see how it comes to pass that nobody or only lowly underlings will have serious problems over this. Since Danny Coulson implies that pyrotechnic devices were only used away from the main building and hours before the fire (an implication that the FLIR video calls into question), his admission strikes me as a cover story necessitated by the unescapable fact that two devices were found and therefore they must be accounted for some how. It will be interesting to see Mike McNulty's new documentary and how these latest findings unfold. [1] The Washington Post: "FBI Reverses Position On Actions in Waco Siege FBI Reveals Waco Munitions Were Potentially Incendiary." By Richard Leiby Thursday, August 26, 1999; Page A01. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/ 1999-08/26/142l-082699-idx.html [2] The Dallas Morning News: "Ex-agent says device fired at Waco compound, Justice Department denies item used." By Lee Hancock, 08/24/99. http://dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/0824tsw1teargas.htm [3] The Dallas Morning News: "Official disputes FBI
[CTRL] [Pentagon policy barred... any public discussion of Delta Force, even the possibility of its existence.]
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X THURSDAY, AUGUST 26, 1999 19:45:01 ET X EX-CIA OFFICER SAYS SECRET ARMY UNIT 'PRESENT, UP FRONT AND CLOSE' DURING ASSAULT; MILITARY ROLE AT WACO JUSTIFIED, GOV REPORT SAYS A former CIA officer tells Friday's DALLAS MORNING NEWS that he learned from Delta Force commandos that members of the secret Army unit were "present, up front and close" in helping the FBI in the final tear-gas assault on the Branch Davidian compound. The former officer, Gene Cullen, tells the paper that heard detailed accounts of the military's active involvement from "three or four" anti-terrorist Delta commandos as he worked with them on an overseas assignment in 1993. The paper reports evidence in the hands of Texas law enforcement personnel may support the account given to Cullen. "I'm advised there is some evidence that may corroborate" the allegation that Delta Force participated in the assault, said James B. Francis Jr., chair of the Texas Department of Public Safety. A Pentagon spokesman who spoke on condition of anonymity denied Thursday that any U.S. military units were involved in the assault, "as far as I know." [Pentagon policy barred him from any public discussion of Delta Force, even the possibility of its existence.] Meanwhile, any U.S. military assistance at the April 1993 Waco siege was justified, according to the General Accounting Office. http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From www.fed-soc.org/prerequisites.htm THE CONSERVATIVE AND LIBERTARIAN PRE-LAW READING LIST: An Introduction to American Law for Undergraduates and Others Michael DeBow Roger Clegg This web site offers an annotated reading list designed to give beginning students of the American legal system a basic understanding of the fundamentals of that system, and an appreciation of the role the legal system has played in America's achievement of levels of freedom and material abundance beyond anything the world had previously seen. A student encountering the legal system for the first time can find it a foreboding subject - complex, technical, deep. Our goal here is to demonstrate that, at one level of understanding, quite the opposite is true. The American legal system, properly understood, depends on a few basic concepts that can be quickly grasped by a serious student. The most important of these concepts are private property ownership, freedom of contract, and limited government. PictureWhy should anyone bother to learn anything of these ideas? We offer three answers to this question. The first has to do with gratitude. Given that many people sacrificed all or a portion of their lives to bequeath us this governmental and economic system, it doesn't seem much to ask that we at least understand how it works. Via Bruce Calder's This Day in History -France- Europe takes a giant step towards ensuring a lasting peace today as delegates from 15 countries, meeting in the French Foreign Ministry in Paris, sign a Pact for the Renunciation of War. Using a large gold pen, Gustav Stresemann, the German Foreign Minister is the first to sign, prompting loud cheering. The agreement is largely the work of Frank Kellogg, the US Secretary of State, in collaboration with Aristide Briand, the French Foreign Minister. Eventually, 62 countries will sign the pact. Briand had proposed that France and the USA should sign a treaty renouncing war as an instrument of national policy. Kellogg then suggested a multilateral pact to which all nations should have the opportunity of signing. The pact of course proves to be worthless. Encyclopedia.Com - Kellogg-Briand Pact http://www.encyclopedia.com/articles/06886.html The Kellogg-Briand Pact and Associated Documents http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/kbpact/kbmenu.htm Briand, Aristide (1862-1932) http://ukdb.web.aol.com/hutchinson/encyclopedia/01/M0018001.htm The World at War - 1889-1932 http://www.euronet.nl/users/wilfried/ww2/tot-1931.htm Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929) - Foreign Affairs http://web-cr05.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/amex/presidents/nf/record/co ol/coolfp .html The Diplomatic Prelude to the Second World War http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~pv/courses/prewar/resources.html AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us
[CTRL] White House blamed for secret unit at Waco
-Caveat Lector- Published in Washington, D.C. 5am -- August 27, 1999 www.washtimes.com White House blamed for secret unit at Waco By Rowan Scarborough THE WASHINGTON TIMES he three Delta Force commandoes at the Branch Davidian compound in April 1993 were part of an elite unit the military secretly founded in 1977 to combat world terrorism. While their use as on-scene observers was legal, a military expert is faulting the Clinton administration for putting the soldiers in a domestic law enforcement setting where innocent people died in a horrible blaze. Said Al Santoli, a House national security aide, "Delta Force is our most sophisticated task force against terrorists and to think that Delta would be used is an abuse of their power and an abuse of their mandate. What happened in Waco was strictly a law enforcement matter." "Delta Force is not hostage negotiating. They are action guys against terrorists," said Mr. Santoli, an aide to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, California Republican. "They are experts who deal with the most violent and sophisticated international terrorist forces." A Pentagon spokesman said Thursday the three special forces soldiers were at Waco strictly as observers in hopes of learning something new on hostage rescue. For years, the Pentagon refused to acknowledge Delta Force's existence, even as such public failures as Desert One and Somalia came to light. Now, the military admits there is such a 400-man unit trained in a fenced area of Fort Bragg, N.C., home to the Joint Special Operations Command. But its work still remains top secret. Delta Force was the brainchild of two hardened Vietnam warriors, Col. Charles Beckwith and Maj. Richard Meadows. They recognized that the growing threat of global terrorism heightened the prospect that Americans would be taken hostage overseas. A special unit was needed, they argued, to rescue them. Unfortunately, Delta Force's first notoriety stemmed from failure. Some of its members participated in the botched Desert One operation in 1979 to free 66 American hostages from the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. Bad publicity struck again in 1993 when the ill-conceived manhunt for Somalia warlord Mohamed Farrah Aidid ended in the ambush of a U.S. special forces unit and the death of 18 soldiers. Many successes remain secret. In any conflict involving American troops, Delta Force is on the scene prepared for a hostage situation. They also perform reconnaissance deep inside enemy lines and join with other commando units, such as Navy Seals, on special missions. Delta Force members were believed to have penetrated Iraqi territory during the 1991 Persian Gulf war in a hunt for ballistic missile launchers. "They have also advised and worked with people like the Israelis who have been successful to varying degrees," Mr. Santoli said. "The reason they keep their identities secret is to protect Americans from the world's most dangerous terrorists." The issue of Delta Force aiding the FBI at Waco is not new. Attorney General Janet Reno testified before congressional committees that she sought the unit's advice before approving the April 1993 assault. A joint congressional committee investigated the commandoes' role in both open and closed hearings. But their presence does take on new importance this week with the FBI's admission that it did, despite previous denials, use incendiary devices on the same day the compound erupted in flames. A 1878 law called Posse Comitatus forbids the military from enforcing civilian laws. But legal experts said Thursday the law does not ban the armed forces from advising law enforcement officials or observing hostage situations. "There's a lot of things they can do 'in support of,' " said a former Army lawyer. "But what they do not have the authority to do is go out and actually enforce." http://www.washtimes.com/investiga/investiga1.html Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] (Fwd) Election Context in East Timor
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:07:13 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Election Context in East Timor Institute for Public Accuracy 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Friday, August 27, 1999 ELECTION CONTEXT IN EAST TIMOR Indonesian-backed forces have increased their violence in recent days as Monday's UN-organized referendum on self-determination approaches. In 1975, Indonesia invaded East Timor with tacit U.S. backing. In the 24 years since, 200,000 people have died, a third of the population. Interviews are available with the following analysts: LYNN FREDRIKSSON, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.etan.org Washington representative of the East Timor Action Network, Fredriksson said: "Few doubt that the vast majority in East Timor will opt for independence if the vote is free. But just days before the long-awaited referendum, the people of East Timor face escalating paramilitary threats, intimidation and outright terrorist attacks. The human rights community is calling on President Clinton to personally demand that the Indonesian-backed violence stop, but he has not yet done so." Fredriksson can arrange interviews with Timorese leader Jose Ramos-Horta, the co-winner of the 1996 Nobel Peace Prize, as well as Dr. Dan Murphy, a physician from Iowa who spent the past nine months in East Timor treating hundreds of internally displaced people and scores of victims of recent paramilitary attacks. He survived a July 4 attack on a UN convoy. Two weeks ago Dr. Murphy was forced to leave East Timor. CONSTANCIO PINTO, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.easttimor.com Author of "East Timor's Unfinished Struggle: Inside the Timorese Resistance," Pinto is the National Council of Timorese Resistance's representative to the UN and North America. He is a survivor of arrest and torture at the hands of the Indonesian military. AMY GOODMAN, http://www.pacifica.org Goodman won numerous awards for her documentary "Massacre: The Story of East Timor," which chronicles the Indonesian genocide against the East Timorese and the 1991 Santa Cruz massacre of 250 civilians (which Goodman survived). In the last few days, Goodman, the host of Pacifica Radio's "Democracy Now!" program, was twice expelled from Indonesia because her name appears on an Indonesian army blacklist of more than 1,000 names. She said: "The Indonesian regime should stop the violence -- not the reporters trying to cover it. Indonesian president B.J. Habibie talks about reforming Indonesia since the Suharto regime, but the Indonesian-backed death squads raging through East Timor and the enforcement of the blacklist confirm that the military's power remains unbroken." JOE NEVINS, [in Dili, East Timor] Nevins is a UN-accredited observer with the International Federation for East Timor. MARK SALZER, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.motherjones.com/east_timor A public school teacher, Salzer just returned from East Timor as a UN-accredited observer with the International Federation for East Timor. For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 or (202) 332-5055; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational
[CTRL] vietnam pictures
-Caveat Lector- Updated 8/26/99 7:20 PM "THERE ARE TEARS IN MY EYES." CNN has a new program called Dying to Tell the Story. It's a show dedicated to the journalists who gave or risked their lives to get the story out. I haven't seen it, but they are running ads for it pretty steadily. You can get the feel for what they're doing right away. They are laying another layer of treacle and hagiography on the press corps. Protectors of the first amendment who are willing to give their lives in defense of your right to know, or some other comic book drivel. CNN is part of that whole Freedom Forum cult which is trying to make journalism some sort of secular priesthood. Go out to the Freedom Forum's "Newseum" in Arlington, Virginia and you'll see a lot of very interesting stuff about the press - old headlines, big TVs (gotta love really big TVs) and some great photography - but you will also see a celebration of journalists as a special caste. The press is so self-serving that we do not need to make these people martyrs to a great cause. My guess is that more Peace Corps volunteers have died digging wells than journalists "dying to tell the story." Since I haven't seen the program yet, I don't want to jump the gun. But, as I say, I have seen the commercial. There are some powerful images in it. There's a shot of a man on fire. I don't know the back story, but one wonders if it reminded anyone else of the cameramen who filmed a burning man until they were sure they got the shot before they put him out. But the really disturbing image is of Nguyen Ngoc Loan shooting a man. Everybody has seen this picture or the film of the incident. A cruel and angry South Vietnamese General executes what appears to be a defenseless Vietcong prisoner. Eddie Williams, The AP photographer who snapped the photo, earned a Pulitzer Prize for the picture. That picture helped galvanize the anti-war effort in the United States. Hubert Humphrey, at the time the photo was taken, was on the verge of challenging President Johnson for the Democratic nomination for president. The photo (and subsequent NBC film) helped stir sentiment to the point that Johnson announced he would not seek a second term only two months later. It is one of the most powerful icons for everything that was supposedly wrong with that war. It is precisely the sort of professional coup that a reporter who's "Dying to Tell the Story" dreams of getting. Except Eddie Adams wishes he never took the picture. After the photo was seen around the world, the AP assigned Williams to hang out with General Loan. He discovered that Loan was a beloved hero in Vietnam, to his troops and the citizens. "He was fighting our war, not their war, our war, and every - all the blame is on this guy," Williams told NPR (in what may have been the most surprisingly courageous NPR interview I've ever heard). Williams learned that Loan fought for the construction of hospitals in South Vietnam and unlike the popular myths, demonstrated the fact that at least some South Vietnamese soldiers really did want to fight for their country and way of life. Just moments before that photo had been taken, several of his men had been gunned down. One of his soldiers had been at home, along with the man's wife and children. The Vietcong had attacked during the holiday of Tet, which had been agreed upon as a time for a truce. As it turned out, many of the victims of the NC and North Vietnamese were defenseless. Some three thousand of them were discovered in a mass grave outside of Hue after the Americans reoccupied the area. The surprise invasion, turned out to be a military disaster for the Vietcong, but a huge strategic victory because of its effect on American resolve. But at the time, all of this was irrelevant to people like Loan. It was an ugly, shocking assault. The execution of the prisoner was a reprisal. It was an ugly thing to be sure, but wars, civil wars especially, are profoundly ugly things. Williams wrote in Time magazine, "The general killed the Viet Cong; I killed the general with my camera. Still photographs are the most powerful weapon in the world. People believe them, but photographs do lie, even without manipulation. They are only half-truths. What the photograph didn't say was, 'What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American soldiers?'" The picture that Williams took, the picture that CNN thinks is such an atrocious and ignoble deed, ruined Loan's life. More to the point, it didn't expand on "our right to know." It didn't answer questions, or give us the story. It deceived. It gave no context. It confirmed the biases of the anti-war journalists, and they used it to further their agenda. Loan fled Vietnam during the fall of Saigon for the US. He eventually moved to Burke, Virginia. He tried to open a restaurant in Northern Virginia, but when the identity
