[CTRL] Lebanon National Anthem and Flag
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[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Lebanon National Anthem and Flag
So Prudy note: It is the Evergreen again, the Cedars of Lebanon (straight out of the bible). Now the symbol of Ephraim - he was like a Green Fir Tree - and this Ephraim is also USA with our Hail to the Chief and the Evergreens - Eternal Life. Ephraim was like a Green Fir Tree and code word EVERGREEN is what keeps Gordon Novel alive. OSaba Listen to the music, and the words to the songLebanon is a Republic. So if bin Laden is there, who the hell now puts Lebanon on the hit list - like ADL put Christians, Militia and Muslims on Hit list. OSuzannah. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.copsrus.com/anthems/lebanon.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == ctrl is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, ctrl gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. ctrl gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. There are two list running, ctrl@yahoogroups and [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctrl@yahoogroups has unlimited posting and is more for discussion. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is more for informational exchange and has limited posting abilities. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Om Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Israeli National Anthem
Words and music but I say this song was written in 1878? What? Eye to Zion in 1878.took 2,000 years to get there? He the Irish could make it in 1 day. But I say how is this for long range plan. Onward Christian Soldiersgot to get the words to that one. Mr. Poley think Onward Christian Soldiers is a very good national anthem for Israel. Imagine Ariel Scheinman aka Sharon with hand to heart singing Onward Christian Soldiers. OSaba ---BeginMessage--- http://www.copsrus.com/anthems/israel.html ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Israeli National Anthem
-Caveat Lector- Just after thought - you know Israel is just like Hitler now for it is said, in his heart Hitler only wanted peace - now like Israel they now only want piece - a piece of Saudi Arabia, a piece of Iraq, now a piece of Iran, and next be a big hunk of China and Russia. OSaba And man those Arabs are really getting miffed..So Onward Christian Soldiers A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Onward, Christian Soldiers
I say Doctor Poley play this song, and the words are here and substitue words With the Star of David, rather than Cross of Jesus Satan even gets into the act. Well one man's satan is another man's hero. OSaba ---BeginMessage--- http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/n/onwardcs.htm ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] The Mythical Lincoln
-Caveat Lector- When I was young the general feelings was the day Lincoln was shot should have been set aside as a holiday for celebration. John Wilkes Booth was a hero, and Jesse James a righteous man. Wonder they have not written a song in honor of Booth. Abraham Lincoln, this rail splitter who practiced law without a license, was resonsible for the entire city government of Baltimore Maryland and the grandson of Francis Scott Key, being placed in prison for refusing to take a loyalty oath to the Union. It was Jefferson Davis who fought to preserve the Constitution of the United States of America and they knew the difference between the despot on their shores, and a patriot. Well I say this, the South never surrendered, only Lee. And that crap about the KKK - the REAL KKK - well take a good look at South Africia where these savages in the streets are raping 9 month old babies, because it is believed that by raping a baby they can cure their AIDS problem. So they say we are to become a government run by ZULUS? That will be the day. So hope you all saved that confederate money for today it is worth more than the Yankee Doodle Dollar, on Home Shopping. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mystery force pulls old space probe toward sun
-Caveat Lector- Isn't this fantastic. Wonder if batteries were included on this one for it is said there is a battery on these craft. And then look down to earth, and take Israel - please take Israel. Just think, how far these craft have gone, and in 30 years nothing has changed here on earth. All this crap about worshiping at somebody's feet when we have these craft in the sky which according to Acts 19, we should not worship - we we don't it is just that they do cost so damn much. Now if they could come up with a battery like this one up there over a billion miles away -just think of a world with no more of that black stuff called oil. Imagine buying a car - King Size - with a sign Battery Includedfor life of auto And what if we are just returning, from whence we came? Even Christ when asked how he expected to return to his father in heaven said, he would ascend the same way, he descended.now which makes me wonder..is this planet, this late great planet earth, really Hell? OSaba You know wonder with whom the turkey was crossed that it cannot fly. Maybe once angels on earth did have wings. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: American reporter said to be OK
What I find simply amazing the alleged kidnappers going to court with their faces hidden by shawls or veils or whateverwhy? Afraid someone might identify them for what they are? Further note 145 million people living in Afghanistan - and all the terrorists are from wthout the country that is the so called leaders of the pack. Even the master of the kidnapping plan was trained in England? What else would one expect? All good terrorists receive an Oxford and Stanford, etc., education and as for Rabin, he too went to military school in England? And then the matter of this huge clothe, such a bright blue matched the hats of some of the Pakistanis shown behind Danny Pearl. He was sitting as in a living room with this huge heavy sheet tacked up behind him. Now reason? Maybe this was a large window and if so, surely anyone with a bright blue sheet matching Pakistani blue berets - this might bring attention to the dwelling where this man is held assuming that is, Danny is not part of the act? Obvious Danny Pearl went on his own and led into either a trap or it is a set up for some other reason. And the wife smiling through now has changed her style - smiling through the TV inerview and then my life for his. Pure crap. OSaba ---BeginMessage--- http://www.msnbc.com/news/694028.asp ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] The Mythical Lincoln
-Caveat Lector- Oh Man on the Run - running from what? And for your information you speak of the dismantling of certain buildings in Washington DC, please be advised recently there was an attempt to dismantle the Pengagon. As for Lincoln - had he not been shot he would have been hanged no doubt. The idea that all these white men died to free some cannibals from Africa is disgusting for they were already being shpped back with love, to point of origin. That, is why Lincoln was shot - the slave traders were losing big bucks. So go dismantle Israel. OSaba Freed the slaves.oh yes.Oh yesand they have been an albatross on white man's back now for over 100 years. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Pravada : Doomsday Blueprints
---BeginMessage--- First let me state religioius fanaticism is not my forte; also, I have not kept lists of churches where weirdos entered and shot up the place, or the bodies of victims in churches in Uganda burned alive as the doors evidently bolted behind them. Then this movie the Patriot - beautiful, but the English newspapers were angered because maybe the Church shown, where men, women and children were burned alive and the doors were bolted from the outside? So 911 - a few days before 911Ezekial, blueprint for America and once blueprint for murder of JFK (Ezekial 38 and 39 - the Valley of Hamon Gog, even unto the symbolism of our beloved American Eagle with the bough or bows in one hand and the arrows in the other)so 911 the bible calendar readings are so sinister and so serious - remember Son of Sam Berkowitz who slaughtered so many young people - he had a demon friend whom he believed lived in a hole in the wall.he had lots of writers writing about him pen in hand - but term hole in wall is right out of Ezekial. This reading was set for September 8 and for those interested, read between the lines and then check out Isaiah but this and another reading from Ezekial for the date of 911 I will reproduce. The entire 911 scenario was built about these bible passages. I cannot make or tell anybody how to see what I see - but the plan is there and the plot is there. On the web I found a reference to my conspiracy theory which did not go by ignored, Lewis Stokes caught it and so did Hale Boggs whom I had written. Also George Wallace, for I had warned him he was next target. I am not out to prove anything but several want to know more about this calendar of events.oh so carefully planned. The Big Question: Who Is Playing God? What is really behind this carnage and was McVeigh right, and he was onto this calendar - was McVeigh right when he referred to the collateral damage - for after all look what happened to Waco. Some fly over the coo coo's nest, but others have learned to fly under it. So here is one Chapter and at the end will put the main reading for 911 (2nd column reading was the Isaiah 29-30, the Fiery Flying Serpent Flag of David Koresh appears) What was Koresh trying to tell us; why did it take Delta, Tanks, Flamethrowers, NATO, FBI and BATF to burn down a little church burning alive small children, their little tricycles still remained outside the debris as the Guestapo walked as they had promised, over their bodies turned to ash. Bible, King James. Ezekiel, from The holy Bible, King James version Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library | Table of Contents for this work | | All on-line databases | Etext Center Homepage | Ezekiel, chapter 9 Compare with Revised Standard Version: Ezek.09 1: He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. (These are 6 executioners - Jack the Ripper style - murderers) 2: And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. 3: And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; (this could even be Danny Pearl, for this is the writer's inhorn the Reporter, the newsman - even during day of Jack the Ripper this man appeared and press had field day all timed.saba note) 4: And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 5: And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 6: Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. (see how these god damned bastards operateGideon Forces? saba note) 7: And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city. 8: And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem? 9: Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not. 10: And as for me also, mine
[CTRL] Fwd: Pravda.RU Adam Young: Doomsday Blueprints
This item there it is - this explains Arthur Godfrey getting on the airwaves standing beside USAF plane, telling Americans that within 20 years the USA would have weather control (note they chaned that pretty fast to modification) whether we liked it or not. I forgot this man, was virtually a government plant, even though he was just another huckster selling soup. In a Washington Garden Party this comment was the subject of considerable discussion - people were shocked, and in this group was a General Booth, and the last Commodore - believe this was when Godfrey had checked out in jets, which was something you had to do. Anyway, this explains why Arhtur Godfrey knew about this program - in those days, people didn't talk - and they did not have to cloak everything with classified to know enough to keep their mouths shut. But Godfrey went down soon after that and maybe this was reason why - he was just getting a little too big for his britches. Besides he was not that funny or witty. OSaba Image this bagal hole telling us that we would have weather control whether we liked it or not. Well, I do not like it. ---BeginMessage--- http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2001/08/23/13138.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Sura 57 Iron (Al-Hadeed)-The Arabic Quran with the Authorized English Translation by Dr. Rashad Khalifa-Koran
So if you can believe any one these days, I do not entirely - but note this Sura 57 (Al-Hadeed) - now this guy who used the name Rubyai Sayeed who was released on ransome deal after hijacking plane, this same Sayeed now used the magical date of February 5 - saying he had been held by police since February 5, that this was date he was taken but it was only Tuesday he turned himself in. He is alleged to hold British Passport (and no doubt many others) and to be from England where he is Citizen - but he is also in on the kidnapping of Danny Pearl, this dangerous man was set free only to hold hostage again. Note the name of his Band out Outlaws - is Al Hadeed - under subject matter see the Surah - (Al Hadeed) and see if you see anything here where it might also be being used as a communication or code? Note key words, ransom - etc. Strange to think this is part of Koran but then I no longer see as much innocence in these words as I once did? Is this Sayeed an MI6 affiliate or Mossad? Did you see his picture in the newspapers all over the world, yet he had a SHAWL over his head (a shawl covered the couch on which Danny Pearl sat and the blue drape or canopy behind him put up in haste, was the same color of blue as this so called police element in blue berets) So here is translation of this Al Hadeed from the Surahpardon Sura Qui Sura Surah - whatever...then we did have Sirhan Sirhan which also read siran - like siran gas placed by doomsdayers in Japanese trains? All we need is a Gideon Koran (paradon, they already have one). OSaba Pull up under subject matter for is a very nice site translated by Egyptian living in Arizona who had really good connections shall we say The Arabic Quran and its Authorized English translation by Dr. Rashad Khalifa ClickHere Sura - 57 Iron (Al-Hadeed) Order Of Revelation 94, Verses: 29 [57:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful 1. [57:1] Glorifying GOD is everything in the heavens and the earth. He is the Almighty, Most Wise.2. [57:2] To Him belongs the kingship of the heavens and the earth. He controls life and death. He is Omnipotent.3. [57:3] He is the Alpha and the Omega. He is the Outermost and the Innermost. He is fully aware of all things.4. [57:4] He is the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then assumed all authority. He knows everything that enters into the earth, and everything that comes out of it, and everything that comes down from the sky, and everything that climbs into it. He is with you wherever you may be. GOD is Seer of everything you do. *57:4 The six days of creation are simply a yardstick to inform us of the relative importance of various components, to emphasize the significance of the planet Earth, and to let us know that the Earth is the only inhabited planet. See Footnote 41:9-10.5. [57:5] To Him belongs the kingship of the heavens and the earth. All matters are controlled by GOD.6. [57:6] He merges the night into the day, and merges the day into the night. He is fully aware of the innermost thoughts.7. [57:7] Believe in GOD and His messenger, and give from what He has bestowed upon you. Those among you who believe and give (to charity) have deserved a great recompense.8. [57:8] Why should you not believe in GOD when the messenger is inviting you to believe in your Lord? He has taken a pledge from you, if you are believers.9. [57:9] He is the One who sends down to His servant clear revelations, in order to lead you out of the darkness into the light. GOD is Compassionate towards you, Most Merciful.10. [57:10] Why do you not spend in the cause of GOD, when GOD possesses all wealth in the heavens and the earth? Distinguished from the rest are those among you who spend before the victory and strive. They attain a greater rank than those who spend after the victory and strive. For each, GOD promises salvation. GOD is Cognizant of everything you do.11. [57:11] Who would like to loan GOD a loan of righteousness, to have it multiplied for him manifold, and end up with a generous recompense? 12. [57:12] The day will come when you see the believing men and women with their lights radiating ahead of them and to their right. Good news is yours that, on that day, you will have gardens with flowing streams. You will abide therein forever. This is the great triumph. 13. [57:13] On that day, the hypocrite men and women will say to those who believed, Please allow us to absorb some of your light. It will be said, Go back behind you, and seek light. A barrier will be set up between them, whose gate separates mercy on the inner side, from retribution on the outer side.14. [57:14] They will call upon them, Were we not with you? They will answer, Yes, but you cheated your souls, hesitated, doubted, and became misled by wishful thinking, until GOD's judgment came. You were diverted from GOD by illusions.15. [57:15] Therefore, today no ransom can be taken from you, nor from those who disbelieved. Your abode is
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Re: Operation Potomac
-Caveat Lector- Well Kris thanks - this item refers to same Deut. chapter to which I referred - death to the dreamers, for this dreamer SHALL BE put to death. Noted over 30 years ago, in my research that many bibles changed his to read that dream of dreams HAS BEEN put to death, making the phrase past tense. In Catholic Douha Version - a long foot note is in some books stating that this DOES NOT mean to take the law into one's hands. This bible, is used by the evil ones and I think this Evil Axis is not as evil as those behind this conspiracy on which I have worked for over 30 years. This bible IS the Master Plan - and it is used by once Kings and Queens to rule in fear, and we thought we had gotten away from this crap when we wrote our own bible - The Constitution of the United States of America for it is this Constitution on which any public official and that includes police, sheriff, congress, senate, the President - this is the book upon which they should lay their hand and take the oath of office, as did John Adams. Why put your hand on a bible, in which none of these people believe or they would not do the things they do - but you put your hand on this Constitution and swear to uphold same - this is the law. Period. This is our ONLY law. This bible - this Old Testament is the most vicious, evil book ever writiten, and no God in heaven ever wrote all that crap or I would prefer to align myself with Satan himselfthe Beautiful Morning Star but then sometimes I think this Beautiful Morning Star, Lucipher - kicked out of heaven by his Father.well maybe, this Alpha and Omega Man, was Christ himself challenging this Father in Heaven who ruled with the Iron Rod and on a bad day hair genocied anyone with whom he disagreed. So much for that. This is Law of the Draco. This is genocide, murder, hired guns, master minds using astrology and religion and the bible to execute judgment. So, just a thought. Theories of course, are not admissible in a Court of Law or I would have nailed those bastards 30 years ago. OSaba Who Often Treads Upon Big Toes A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Afghanistan charges Pak intelligence with helping Osama
-Caveat Lector- Well I believe Pakistan Inteligence has this Danny Pearl. And the one thing that bothers me is the blue blanket which in haste were tacked on a wall, this bright shade of a blue which matches the blue beret of Pakistan soldiers. So anybody know if Pakistan uses blue for blankets? These Blue Berets though matched this heavy sheet or blanket perfect - and it was reported the Afghanistanis wanted this Blue Beret bunch in there. So some of the men brining in this British Muslum of Pakistani descent - wore the Blue Beret, but under whose control are they and why would this man, say FEBRUARY 5 the soldiers had him when he turned himself in Tuesday? So here is story on Blue Berets. And if the USA thinks the Pakistanis are our friends they are nuttier than a fruit cake, but that is nothing new is it. Set a thief to catch a thief.who is this Sayeed who stole his one alias from the Rubaiyat (Rubaiya was name he took).. Why didn't that cheap ass Wall Street Journal offer to pay a reward but rather, they sent out Danny's wife to trade her life for his (if that is not a crock) and sent two different Jews (one named Goldstein) to beg for Danny Pearl's life, knowing the Jews are hated more than the Yanks in Pakistan.games people play? OSaba ¹Dec, 17 2001 Forum in English Former USSR/ Main/ Accidents/ World/ Diplomatic/ Politics/ Culture/ Sports/ Society/ Letters to the Editor/ Companies/ Economics/ Regions of Russia/ War/ USA/ Fun/ Hot spots/ Forum/ In Russian/ Advertising/ About Forum in English Pravda.RU:War:More in detail 15:53 2001-12-17 UP TO 15,000 BLUE BERETS WILL BE BROUGHT INTO AFGHANISTAN By December 22, an official date of transferring power to the interim government headed by influential Pashtu leader Hamid Karzai, the international peacekeeping forces numbering 15,000 men will be brought into Afghanistan. They will be deployed in four biggest cities of the country: Kabul, Kandahar, Herat and Mazar-i-Sharif. The RIA Novosti correspondent was told about it by the informed sources close to the incumbent Afghan President Burhanuddin Rabbani. According to these sources, the details of bringing the first part of the international forces were specified on Sunday evening during the meeting of Afghan Defence Minister Mohammad Qassem Fahim and Interior Minister Mohammad Younous Qanooni with US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld at the air base of Baghram, some twenty kilometres to east of the Afghan capital. The sources said that in the future the total number of the peacekeepers would be increased up to 60,000 men. you may discuss the article in our forum Send it to a friend! Pravda.RU:War 19:06 US AMBASSADOR SAYS WASHINGTON HAS NO PLANS TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN AFGHANISTAN The US has never had any plans to use nuclear weapons in Afghanistan, US ambassador Alexander Vershbow said in Moscow Monday, speaking at the journalism department of Moscow State University More details... 15:53 UP TO 15,000 BLUE BERETS WILL BE BROUGHT INTO AFGHANISTAN By December 22, an official date of transferring power to the interim government headed by influential Pashtu leader Hamid Karzai, the international peacekeeping forces numbering 15,000 men will be brought into Afghanistan More details... 10:20 AL-QAEDA BASE DISCOVERED IN SOUTHERN AFGHANISTAN One of Afghanistan's largest bases belonging to the terrorist organisation Al-Qaeda was discovered near the Kandahar airport. Surrounded by minefields, antitank fortifications and anti-aircraft positions, the terrorist camp occupied an aggregate space of more than four hectares. More details... 10:11 USA SETS UP NEW MILITARY BASE IN SOUTHERN AFGHANISTAN The lift of US Marines elements to the aerodrome of Kandagar situated 15 kilometres south-east of the city to set up a new American military base began in the morning on Friday, the Qatari Al-Jazeera TV company reported. The Marines whose number is not known are transported by helicopters from Jelalabad. More details... 10:07 PASHTUN DETACHMENTS ENCIRCLE CAVES NEAR TORA BORA The Pashtun units, with the support of American and British special task forces, have fully encircled the caves in the Agam Gorge of the Tora Bora area near Jalalabad where, according to the US secret services, Osama bin Laden and a group of Al-Qaeda militants are hiding. More details... 17:17 U.S. HELICOPTERS BOMB ALLEGED AL-QAEDA CAMPS IN AFGHANISTAN American military helicopters are for the first time involved in an operation against Osama bin Laden-led militants from the terrorist organisation Al-Qaeda in the Tora Bora area in the south of Nangarhar province, bordering on Pakistan More details... 16:22 DMITRY LITVINOVICH: SOMALIA IS THE USA'S NEXT TARGET It seems that America has now decided its next target for the anti-terrorist operation: Somalia. Johnson Stevenson, an expert of the London institute for strategic research gave his estimation pertaining to the situation in Somalia and this gives us a better notion
[CTRL] Fwd: The New American - Beasts in Blue Berets - September 29, 1997
Okay it was said Danny Pearl was at a restaurant, one report indicated a watering hole I do not know - but this picture of Danny, this blue blanket, and the oh so clean figure with the feminine hands holding a gun to his head - but the blue blanket and these Blue Berets who were pictured bringing in this Sayeed the guy with shawl over his head, along with what appeared to be police - the word was, the police wanted this shawl over his head - why? He already had his pictured all over hell and back. But here is a story on some of these Blue Berets that were called into Pakistan.and what if this law of kidnapping in the bible, Ex 21 has to do with underworld, white slavery, etc., and somehow Danny got set up in a Pakistani trap for surely this man was no fool, he went with someone he trusted. Anyway this Blue Beret stuff found this article and I do not like these people for see here it is, a connection to criminal activities. Why February 5 - these women are they involved someway? And why was this Danny's wife so happy and smiling for her first TV impression, and to tell the truth this my life for his life, did not ring true. So? A double cross? Or a triple cross but I do not like these Blue Berets. And Danny was sitting in a private home, with SHAWL over the couch This article is worth reading -- UN compounds. In the latter case, prostitutes were allegedly employed by the UN and were reportedly even shipped on UN planes to fornicate with a UN staff member in hotels paid for by the UN. Last December a UN study on children in war reported that blue berets had been involved in child prostitution in six of the 12 countries which had been studied. In country after country unfortunate enough to attract the UN's humanitarian intervention, the arrival of peacekeeping troops has been accompanied with a rapid rise in child prostitution, the document reported. Following the signing of a peace treaty in Mozambique in 1992, for example, soldiers of the United Nations operation ... recruited girls aged 12 to 18 years into prostitution. So read what these Blue Berets are - for I think they are very sinister. They are UN troops OSaba February 14, 2002 IN THE NEWS September 29, 1997 More on United Nations Beasts in Blue Berets by William Norman Grigg We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money, warned Arthur Schlesinger Jr. in the July/August 1995 issue of Foreign Affairs. Schlesinger had taken to the pages of the flagship journal of the Council on Foreign Relations to vindicate the dubious proposition that the United Nations military represents the thin blue line dividing peaceful civilization from savagery -- in short, our planetary police. But what happens when the planetary police run amok and become the agents of bloodshed? When local police abuse their power, the abused have avenues of redress. From what body can those abused by the planetary police seek justice? The escalating scandal of unpunished atrocities committed by UN peacekeepers illustrates that the planetary police are beyond accountability. Perhaps our leaders should put the question to the people: what do we want the United Nations to be? Schlesinger wrote. Do we want it to avert more killing fields around the planet? Or do we want it to dwindle into impotence, leaving the world to the anarchy of nation-states? Critics of the UN should eagerly embrace such a debate -- provided that a copy of the above photograph is made available to all participants. First published in the United States on the cover of the June 24th issue of the left-wing weekly Village Voice, the photograph depicts two Belgian paladins of the new world order giddily holding a Somali child over an open flame. Other series of photographs depict UN soldiers kicking and stabbing a Somali, and another soldier apparently urinating on the Somali's dead body; yet another shows a Somali child being forced to drink salt water, vomit, and worms. A second group of photos published in the July 15th Village Voice shows the dead bodies of bound Somalis -- what appears to be the work of a death squad. One atrocity not caught on camera involved the punishment of a Somali child by placing him in a metal container and withholding water from him for two days; predictably, the relentless African heat killed the child. One Belgian UN soldier testified that it was a regular practice to use metal boxes as prison cells, and that other Somalis probably died similarly gruesome deaths. Strangely Silent One might expect the photographs and first-person accounts of such atrocities to arouse public indignation against the UN's planetary police, just as the endlessly replayed videotape of the Rodney King arrest turned public opinion against the Los Angeles Police Department. Perhaps this is why the photographs have been all but invisible in the United States, and precious little media attention has been devoted to
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The New American - Beasts in Blue Berets - September 29, 1997
-Caveat Lector- Just hit me - this blanket behind Danny Pearl, was this UN Blue Blanket? Do they have blankets ... And they are engaged in prostitution and white slavery - and could Danny have been taken to a local brothel where he is held - like Old Assassins, hey they can call the drugs and women paradise, but face it - in America we call it a brothel? What if this is underworld connection to UN Blue Berets. Just a thought.but that bright blue behind Danny Pearl - and those Blue Berets and here they are called Blue Beasts? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The 7 Billion Dollar Insurance Policy Silverstein
Here is the law suit re Silverstein who held 99 year lease on Twin Towers. He also owned 7 World Trade Center where Rudolph Giuliani illegally permitted a 6 thousand gallon fuel tank to be erected, right beside this building in which Silverstein, and Giiuliani had he 15 million dollar control center, plus the CIA of all people had offices there. Fortunately Giuliani moved out of this building 2 weeks before (and after putting in 15 million dollars - really?) and of course Larry Silverstein that morning was walking to work I guess - it was election day. This is the case the lawsuit where Silverstein wants 7 billion dollars ALONE for Building 1 and Building 1 World Trade Center. Double indeminity, guess you could say for who would have expected such a thing to happen to the Twin Towers, other than the boys who cut this deal. Further Larry did not own these buildings - he leased air space. The land is still owned by the Port Authority.the intent of Silverstein is to get 7 billion dollars .his security he personally hired not living up to contract of former WTC security, was John ONeil, former FBI agent who lost the terrorist plans for the City of New York in Florida (??) and ws under investigation. So for some good reading to get the picture, pull up under subject matter the ONE lawsuit. This money Silverstein got - is a small portion of what he is demanding and for what? Air space..some of the clients in Twin Towers had just signed leases with Port Authority, up to 10 years.any sale of these buildings would be illegal, so note this corrupt 100 year lease. Tell me - had the Port Authority owned these buildings - would the insurance company have picked up the 7 billion dollars Silverstein wants for buildings he did not own? Further in May 2001 Court ruled insurance companies DID NOT have to pay for the 100 million dollarsl needed to remove asbestos from these two towers.and how many people now have become disabled due to this asbestos and other poisons including mercury and other toxic wastes because the Mayor said area was safe? I know what I think - this was the biggest scam ever pulled; in another article I am sending note Silverstein in Israel (and Bronfman corrupt family in on this stuff over there) and see what happened? Note also - Minister of Tourism in Israel recently murdered and today Minister of Tourism in Afghanistan also murdered? Any ideas - still 6 slaughtermen on loose/ So at the end of the document you can pull up in subject matter Silverstein claims two attacks to get the 7 billion dollars, rather than the 3 billion - further, this is in addition to insurance claim he will fil on this building 7 where this fuel tank added fuel to the fire? Might add our dear owners and occupiers of Building 7 - Larry Silverstein and the Mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani had been notified by the Fire Inspectors that this tank WAS ILLEGAL.it was more fuel to flames as if the Twin Towers burning was not enough with FUEL acting as huge bombs while the ordinary folk were on the job some of whom had been ordered back to their offices, only a jet plane hit folks. Bible Code - code word fuel? Fuel only mentioned 3 times in the entire bible but when you see this stuff timed with the Fiery Flying Serpents symbol of Flag of David Koresh, who died with babies in a fiery furnace - one must wonder. All was ready.. The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Isaiah, chapter 9 2: The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined. 5: For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire. 11: Therefore the LORD shall set up the adversaries of Rezin against him, and join his enemies together; 14: Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day. 15: The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail. 16: For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed. 17: Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still. 18: For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke. 19: Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother. Osaba ---BeginMessage--- http://youknowitall.com/TerrorInsuranceWTCSwissRE/SR%20Silverstein%20WTC%20complaint.htm ---End Message---
[CTRL] Come to Israel and be killed.....or how about USA will that suffice?
Here was the beginning of what some called a scame in Israel and oh no a man like Larry Silverstein who has pumped up his own profile in courage, who went bankrupt in 1991 - what a man of this stature would be involved in anything shadyGod Forbid such a thing to happen. So Free Trade Zone comes hand in hand with World Trade Center and activities.also Israel including the minister of Tourism who was just murdered noted the matter of money laundering such a zone would no doubt offer to every hoodlum on earth - come to Israel, hey bad enough gambling money of Irving Moskowitz is used to buy up arab land (Moskowitz and Larry Flynt opening gambling casinos in Los Angeles, but oh these are such respectable people) So this item some time back - see the Larry Silverstein, the home boy who makes good - rooting in the dirt for the Free Trade Zone and Negaz is the place where American Negro or Black House of Israel Jews migrated, some 15 thousand as I recall and the question was - why did Larry Silverstein want to locate such a zone in this area of all places? Well within little over a year - poof - all gone with the wind - divine winds of Kamikaze planes used as big bombs only they hit the USA where Silverstein now has claims in for SEVEN BILLION DOLLARSfor buildings Twin Towers and his building 7 World Trade Center - where the 6 thousand dollar fuel tank was parked waiting for an opportunity to feed the flames? Contrary to law by the way for the Fire Inspectors had notified he dear mayor this huge tank was against the law - when the Mayor moved out of Building 7 from his new 15 millon dollar control center TWO WEEKS before the big blast, he forgot his tank? OSaba As a result of this experience we've learned something: Don't try to do business in Israel, certainly don't do business with the government because you'll get killed, cautions Silverstein. Tuesday, July 4 2000 01:16 1 Tammuz 5760 A tragedy of turf and taxes By Patricia Golan (May 18) - It's hard to think of another commercial project that has generated such heated passions, pro and con. It has been called everything from a scam to a salvation. To some the scheme would bring hope to the neglected Negev region, to others it would simply line the pockets of unscrupulous speculators. It was a project that was conceived as a way of helping Israel economically and ended with some of America's wealthiest Jews throwing up their hands in disgust. No one, it seems, is neutral on the idea which originated in the early 1990s and was supported enthusiastically by the late prime minister Yitzhak Rabin. The scheme involved the setting-up of a Free Processing Zone (FPZ). Its backers say it would have created 20,000 new jobs in the employment-starved Negev and brought in top-notch foreign companies. Eight years and some $10 million later, the US investment consortium which lobbied for the zone, The Israel Export Development Company (IEDC), has withdrawn its support for the project, effectively killing it off. The concept of a tax-free manufacturing zone is modeled on similar zones which have been established in both Third World and developed countries in the Far East. Known elsewhere as Free Export Processing Zones, the word export was dropped from the Israeli version because US-Israel trade agreements forbid subsidized exports. Unlike free zones elsewhere which are owned and managed by governments, the Israeli version was envisioned as a private initiative. The zone was to have been set up on a one-million-square-meter piece of land near the Shoket Junction, 8 km northeast of Beersheba. All capital for infrastructure, buildings, etc. would have come from the foreign investors, in exchange for which businesses in the zone would not have had to pay any taxes for 20 years. IEDC WAS founded by a group of leading American Jewish businessmen including Laurence Tisch, Sy Syms, Robert Tishman, and Larry Silverstein, a prominent New York real-estate developer who today is chairman of the consortium. (Saba note Silverstein went bankrupt in 1991.) The group's members are not only fabulously successful businessmen, they are among the biggest contributors to Israel-related charities. But until presented with the idea of the FPZ, none of them had considered direct investment in the country; philanthropy was one thing, doing business quite another. But according to David Yerushalmi, former CEO of IEDC and an associate of the conservative think tank The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, the initiative was designed to create a free-market business environment liberated from the infamous Israeli bureaucrats and anchored in law. In other words, the FPZ would have encouraged investment and created jobs, but would have allowed the participating businesses to be free of government intervention. According to the director-general of the government-appointed Free Trade Zones Council, Dafna Barak, the investors were motivated
[CTRL] Fwd: Cheney: Iraq attack would be backed
I love this Cheney - fighting a war hiding in somebody's cellar - so anyone using weaons of mass destruction would incur the wrath of the United States? Today where the war crime case is heard against Serbian Slobo - he reminds us that Osama bin Laden fought with the USA to murder and bomb innocent Serbians and tells us the Chinese embassy was not hit accidently. So we took the first shot at China? Big talk but look who was orchestrating this war this fat slob Madeline Albright, the Catholic convert who did not know, she was jewish. Nice war - but chicken crap Cheney with his big mouth fights it hiding in somebody's cellar out of harms way.but this time, it will be like Israel - for this is what the United States is becoming - somebody's cesspool. Developing weapons of mass destruction - this idiot still does not get it does he. Two jet planes loaded with fuel took out the twin towers and surrounding buildings - killing 3,000 or more people - pardon, collateral damage as Timothy McVeigh said it is clled - like Waco. Big Tanks, flame throwers, Delta Squad Special Forces (GIDEON FORCES), FBI, BATF, and NATO to as they say take out 80 some people, including babies with bottles and children on tricycles? Bit time stuff, weapons of mass destruction So Timothy McVeigh used a truck load of fertilizer and di much more damage and somebody uses two jet planes to do more damage than Sherman did in Georgia, 3,000 or so people killed - pardon me this was collateral damage I guess they call it, but Lary Silverstein will be 7 billion dollars richer and he only leasted air space for 3 weeks? And to think, Osama bin Laden was fightin with the Nato forces against Serbia with the USA Tell me is Osama still fighting with the USA OSaba Chen Cheney: Iraq attack would be backed Vice President says America will use any 'means at our disposal' Vice President Dick Cheney tells the Council of Foreign Relations that countries developing weapons of mass destruction will incur the wrath of the United States. MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS WASHINGTON, Feb. 15 Vice President Dick Cheney said Friday the Bush administration believed it would have full international support for aggressive action against Iraq or other countries that support terrorism, and he vowed that any country developing weapons of mass destruction will incur the wrath of the United States. (Oh by the way this Council on Foreign Relations made a public threat against Ronald Reagan - and within a week or so, he was almost dead meat. But you see now all news media is controlled by this CFR..and Reagan survived) DISCUSSING THE NEXT steps in the U.S.-led war on terrorism at the Council on Foreign Relations, Cheney said we will use all the means at our disposal, meaning military, diplomatic, intelligence, et cetera to take on terrorist-supporting nations and stop leaders like (Iraqi President) Saddam Hussein from developing weapons of mass destruction. I think if aggressive action is required, I would anticipate there would be the appropriate support for that, both from the American people and the international community, he said. The Bush administration is considering action against Iraq because the combination of Iraq's weapons program and support for terrorism has placed Baghdad in what Bush has called an axis of evil with Iran and North Korea. POWELL REASSURES ALLIES On Thursday, Secretary of State Colin Powell promised U.S. allies they would be consulted if President Bush tried to force Hussein from power. But Powell also reiterated that the United States had not ruled out unilateral military action against Iraq. We have to preserve all options, and we have to preserve the option to act alone, he said. Secretary of State Colin Powell Canadian Foreign Minister Bill Graham responded skeptically. Nobody is supporting Saddam Hussein, but everyone recognizes in international politics you have to have a process where, before you invade a sovereign country, there has to be a reason for it, or we are going to lead to international chaos, Graham said, after he discussed emerging U.S. policy with Powell. But Graham said one should not exaggerate the situation at the moment. LATEST DEVELOPMENTS THE WAR 2 soldiers injured in Kandahar attack U.S. links Yemen clan to attacks Suspect: Pearl is dead Iran says it detains Taliban, al-Qaida Complete coverage THE HOME FRONT U.S. tightens nuclear plant security NBC: Yemen holds 6 on FBI list Complete coverage Even before Bush put the three nations on notice in his State of the Union speech last month, Arab governments had said they would not support an attack on Iraq. In Moscow on Wednesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said the United States has no ground for extending the war on terrorism to Iraq. We know which nations' representatives and citizens were fighting alongside the
[CTRL] Fwd: Yemens Jews go it alone
Osama BEN Laden is from Yemeni Extraction; there are also stories the BEN Ladens were jewish converts to Islam. In Yemen we had the USS Cole Disaster, and of course the suicide whatevers' a trail led to a hotel with Koran, glasses, etc. In this story here it speaks of the litieral translatoin of the bible - On Wings of Eagles - American US Planes, as being the saviors of jews planted in Yemen. USS Cole - did Sharon need a wag the dog for sympathy; remember the USS Liberty. The entire book of Isaiah in particular is linked to 911 attack - the figurative and literal translation thereof. My case is simply this - surely, if the Wings of the Eagle represented the USA spiriting away the jews the safety from assassins, SURELY THE FIERY FLYING SERPENTS OF ISAIAH 30 (see 29 and 30 for Towers and Serpents) were the symbolism of the revenge on the great city of Babylon - New York City, for doesn't this creepy bunch drag the USA down into a cesspool with their portrayal of America as the Great Satan, land of Sodom and Gomorrah - and in particular Hollywood who bring words into pictures then into action - real life disaster. It is all in the game plannotice today, it was February 5 (the date Patty Hearst kidnapped) that the now 6 kidnappers spirited away by 2, captured Danny Pearl and it was on February 5, code words given to the kidnappers to release Pearl only the response was - Dad is dead. True or not true - what about the wings of eagle alleged to have taken Pearl from Pakistan - booked passage on Airline. Then look what we have - Minister of Tourism murdered in Afghanistan while Slobo on trial for war crimes reminds us that Osama BEN Laden known as The Constractor, heavy Mafia code name, fought with the USA to destroy Serbia IN PARTICULAR SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCHES. See if you see the games people play - this IS the bible calendar in full force and the USA has the enemy within now counterintelligence is the word for today - so Remember Hanssen, John O'Neil, all into counter intelligence and counter-terrorismboth who sold us out to KGB and MOSSAD - our friends, oh what friends. So Onward Christian Soldiers, Marching on the War - With the Star of David your guiding light.the Great Sodom and Gomorrah is playing the game now. OSaba Isaiah 40: 31: But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. (CODE: Operation Wings As Eagles?) Then, in June 1949, the Israeli government airlifted nearly all the remaining 50,000 Yemenite Jews to Israel. The airlift was called Operation Magic Carpet but became known as on wings of eagles because so many Yemenite Jews had never seen an airplane and believed that this was what God had promised in the book of Isaiah when He said that His children would return to Zion with wings, as eagles. NBC, MSNBC and Newsweek correspondents in the war zone. Yemen's Jews go it aloneThere are few in this Arab nation, but plenty of prideBy Bob Arnot MSNBC GHAREER, Yemen, Feb. 15 Salaam Alaikum peace be with you is the usual Muslim greeting used in much of the Arab world. In the small town of Ghareer, Yemen, things are no different, with one exception: Here, even Jews greet friends and neighbors with the phrase. Despite animosity between the Arab world and Israel, the four Jewish families who live in Ghareer appear to be doing just fine. According to one family, the Yemeni government even goes out of its way to protect them. GHAREER is located amid the region's most picturesque scenery, about a five-hour drive from the Yemeni capital of San'a. After shaking off a government minder and police escorts, the village seemed like the end of the earth. Here in this fertile valley dotted with traditional mud-and-brick structures Yusef Musa and his family live and work. The Musa family proudly displays their heritage, with young and old members alike wearing their hair in traditional Jewish side locks. This, in a country that is virtually entirely Muslim: Yemen borders on Saudia Arabia and is less than 600 miles from the holiest cities of Islam, Mecca and Medina. Most recently, it has attracted the attention of the United States because of its suspected links to suspected terror mastermind Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. The government admits there may be al-Qaida suspects in the country but says the network has no military training camps or any other organized presence. U.S. links Yemen clan to Sept. 11 Yemen, the poorest country of the Arabian Peninsula, has committed itself to joining the U.S. war on terrorism, but Yemeni officials say this cannot be done without U.S. training, military assistance and aid. Advertisement NO INTEREST IN ISRAEL Inside their three-story home, Musa and his son have a silversmith's shop, where they craft elegant items to sell in the capital. Life here
[CTRL] Putting on the Tophet???
So With Wings of Eagles the jews escape to Israel spirited away by Israel but what does the USA get - we get Fiery Flying Serpents loaded with fuel - like the 6 thousands gallans outside of Building 7 which the fire inspectors told Sir Rudolph the Brown Nosed Reindeer Giuliani to remove as illegal? So as in Isaiah 29 - the serpent has laid its eggs, and these little sleepers as spring nears give birth and awaken from their sleep7 sleepers, 6 slaughterman, we almost have an army here - and you still believe Osama BEN Laden pulled off the Twin Towers (these towers are mentioned at the end of Isaiah 30 along with the fiery flying serpents loaded with the fuel for the fire)so, surely if the Israelies have Operation Magic Carpet based on the Wings of the Eagle - surely we have Operation Murder Inc, and On Wings of Fiery Flying Serpents- - and the Kamikazi kids of Columbine and the Kamikazi kid of Tampa, and of course, these so called Kamikazi Pilots, on 911 - 911. Can you believe this really happened And then were were told oh the USA - Sodom and Gomorrah, you are being punished for Hollywood has depicted the USA as the Great Satan, while Gay Pride a victim of discrimination (the gypsies, jews, and homosexuals of WWII) we are then told, might be the cause of the fall of the great Babylon and our demise.Suicide pilots perhaps anyone - all those Arabs who did not know the flight was on suicide mission or maybe even remote stuff as some sayfor even Osama BEN Laden was aware that many arabs aboard didn't know what the hell was going on? So Read from the major readings set for Operation Fiery Flying Serpents - acting as Predator Hellsfire Missiles or whatever that day on 911 when the TOWERS were destroyed and the fiery flying serpents scored a great hit7 million bucks insurance on these two buildings alone, so do not worry about pore Larry Silverstein Blurp from 29, a Communication between Israel God and USA (date set for appointed time according to calendar reading September 11) Isaiah, chapter 14 29: Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent. (ah but many eggs of cockatrice now have given birth set to go again when hibernation time over - and new eggs hatch perhaps Operation Garden Plot takes effect now for lo, the voice of the turtle is heard in the land and the flower in the fields do grow) Isaiah 30 - Key Reading for this Vision which was set for appointed time - and though it tarried it materializes before our very eyes - the stings of the scorpions, fiery bites) Ah Now the Wings of the Fiery Flyint Serpent' - Operation Scorch the Yanks The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Isaiah, chapter 30 1: Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin: 2: That walk to go down into Egypt, and have not asked at my mouth; to strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, and to trust in the shadow of Egypt! 3: Therefore shall the strength of Pharaoh be your shame, and the trust in the shadow of Egypt your confusion. 4: For his princes were at Zoan, and his ambassadors came to Hanes. 5: They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach. 6: The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them. 7: For the Egyptians shall help in vain, and to no purpose: therefore have I cried concerning this, Their strength is to sit still. 8: Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: 9: That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: 10: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: 11: Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us. 12: Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon: 13: Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant. 14: And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit. 15: For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In
[CTRL] The Voice of the Turtle is heard in the land......
-Caveat Lector- I am wondering about Danny Pearl for his hands were chained? Think these could have been police chains? Wasn't this allegeg kidnapper brought in chained? Think this man would have gone alone with anybody - he was nobody's fool, but he could have been taken in and set in a trap - with the blue canopy behind him in the picture, and nobody sees a thing? Now the kidnappers are revealing their little coded messages.their cute little code names - they are playing games, almost like the Chandra Levy game which ended checkmate. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Prime Time Afghan Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- Doesn't this sound familiar to the assassination of the Minister of Tourism and Transportation in Israel? The PLO got blamed for that one.but this guy had so many enemies on BOTH sides hard to tell who took him out' as Rumsfeld would say. Looks now like the real cast of characters is finally emerging - it is our leaders taking each other out, and we the people who pay these bastards who feed at the public troughs, are their ultimate victims? Example, the Twin Towers.Sitting Ducks - but hey its okay, Larry Silverstein the landlord had his airspace insured for what will amount to 7 billion dollars like little rays of light and hope for humanity? Screw them all - but it is about time people woke up and took another look around. JFK was murdered in cold blood - his route had been changed, and his killer awaited him in a building where he took employment and where the limosine would be at near zero mph..high noon, Streets of Laredo played on juke boxes, roll the drums, beat the drums Sirhan would then write in his diary few years later, lines form this very song. So turn loose the nuts as Meyer Lansky said when he ordered hit on JFK - they have an asylum full of these nuts and terrorists in Israel. All drugged up, smirking and smiling, and this Reid old Hot Foot Harry looks like he belongs in the nut house too. So so long as they only kill each other, I do not care any more but then there is a matter of the children and quite honestly, when Janet Reno said save the children I never believed her, did you? Welcome to Spring - like Hibenians of old, sleepers awakeningonly this time instead of flowers we have demon seeds and seeds of the cockatrice coming to bloom? One Osama, two Osama, ,three Osama...more? So let Israel push for all the war they want and the USA will be their scape goat and whipping boy but this time, Iraq has those missiles trained on Israel - would be best to speak soft and carry bick stick - and not expect the Yanks to go to war any more, for gypsies, jews, and homosexuals. Maybe that is why this homosexual was such a hero IT WAS ALLEGED on this one downed plane - wouldn't you know, he ran with the bulls .and LETS ROLL now the call to battle. Hey, those kids at Littleton said hey LETS ROCK AND ROLL and slaughtered one black and all Christians at Littleton and then it would have been on to New York in Jet Plane to take out Twin Towers. Awake thou that sleepethfor lo, it is spring and the voice of the turtle is heard in the land. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: ICT - Terrorism Counter-Terrorism
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[CTRL] ICT - Terrorism Counter-Terrorism
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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Sign this please-WTC Flag Raising petition
-Caveat Lector- Yes and please on these Holocaust put the fact that over 55 millon people died in WWII, and not just gypsies, jews, and homosexuals. Honesty and truth in all reporting; so put a gypsy, jew, and homosexual running up the flag - only please, remind the public that all those white men that died for that flag and died in the towers, are not to be considered symbolic or otherwise represented in any way, with the three symbolic representations of murder in the Twin Towers. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Pakistani Group Says It Has U.S. Journalist (washingtonpost.com)
Does it make sense that Danny Pearl, a jew, would be sent in to meet with people who hated jews so much they were virtually to be shot on sight with any American - here is story on this group, the group Danny Pearl met the night of his disappearance. Then we have the airplane upon which it was reported Pearl booked passage. In her first TV interview Pearl's wife was all floosied up with makeup, lipstick and smiled and laughed - one would think she was preparing for sainthood or stardom. So - this is a description of the men with whom Pearl was to meet that night. After 911 it was said this group was declared terrorist organization, as if it had not already been so charged. Note these pictures of Danny - oh so clean white outfit by individual holding the gun, using the famous police freeze hand stance; but so strange are the chains which bound Danny, for these were without a doubt chains used by POLICE...so who is playing the big time games. February 5 was magic day.and what was the coded message - Dad has expired So this is from where all the cute stuff comes. And the Wall Street Journal and Dow had two Jewish spokesmen pleading for Danny's life? Does this make sense? Muhummed Ali okay - but a jew from Wall Street these men virtually gave the execution order if the entire thing is not a fraud from top to bottom? The men with whom Daniel Pearl met were Harakat ul Mujahedid or (HUM) agents...a lone jew with a writer's horn to report on Hot Foot Harry with known it is alleged connections to bin Laden? They all sing out of same songbook. The blue of the blanet tacked up hastily behind Danny matched the Blue Berets in the photos of the one kidnappers police escort as he shielded his face with a shawl. Those were police chains used on Danny. OSaba Harakat ul-Mujahedin (HUM) Harakat ul-Ansar Formerly known as the Harakat ul-Ansar, the HUM is an Islamic militant group based in Pakistan that operates primarily in Kashmir. Originally established to fight in Afghanistan against the Soviet occupation, the HUM has become an international network of fighters for Islamic causes all over the world. Its headquarters is at Raiwind in Punjab, where it holds its annual conferences. The HUM is a member of Osama bin Ladin's Islamic World Front for the struggle against the Jews and the Crusaders (Al-Jabhah al-Islamiyyah al-`Alamiyyah li-Qital al-Yahud wal-Salibiyyin). The Front was declared in an announcement on February 1998 at a press conference in Pakistan. Fazlur Rehman Khalil, one of the HUM's leaders signed bin Ladin's fatwa in February 1998 calling for attacks on US and Western interests. The organization operates terrorist training camps in eastern Afghanistan and suffered casualties in the US missile strikes on Bin Ladin-associated training camps in Khost in August 1998. Fazlur Rehman Khalil subsequently warned that HUM would take revenge on the United States. In 1997 the US Government placed the HUM on its list of foreign terrorist groups. This prompted Pakistani security agencies, which covertly back Muslim insurgents in Kashmir, to distance themselves from the organizations. But Pakistan has not cracked down on the group's militant activities in Kashmir fearing a backlash from Islamic fundamentalist groups. Indian security forces in Kashmir confront at least a dozen major insurgent groups of varying size and ideological orientation. The more prominent groups include the secular pro-independence Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) and the radical Islamic and pro-Pakistani groups Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Hizbollah, Harkat-ul-Mujahedin, and Ikhwanul Muslimeen. According to the leader of the organization, Maulana Saadatullah Khan, the group's main objective is to continue the armed struggle against non-believers and anti-Islamic forces. The organization seeks Kashmir's accession to Pakistan. History Ideology Strategy Structure Terrorist Activity Articles Documents Links Updates Attacks from 1988-2000 History The Harakat ul-Mujahedin was initially established in central Punjab in Pakistan in the early 1980s by Islamic religious elements. A few months after its formation, the HUM began sending volunteers to Afghanistan in order to assist the Afghan Mujahidin groups. Volunteers were recruited from Pakistan and Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK). The HUM was estimated to have recruited about 5,000 volunteers and sent them into Afghanistan. The recruitment was funded by money from supporters in Pakistan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia (including Osama bin Ladin). As the war in Afghanistan dragged on, the HUM recruited volunteers from the Muslim communities in other countries. About 6,000 volunteers were recruited from Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Jammu Kashmir of India, Bangladesh, Myanmar and the Philippines. The initial batch of HUM volunteers was trained in the use of arms and ammunition and explosives in training camps in the Paktia province of Afghanistan run by Jalaluddin
[CTRL] Online Museum: Israeli Holocaust Against Arabs
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[CTRL] A Reporter Under the Gun
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[CTRL] Fwd: HOW'S YOUR WEATHER?
---BeginMessage--- Rumor Mill News Reading Room Forum http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=17622 http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?#4071 HOW'S YOUR WEATHER? Posted By: oliverhaddo Date: Monday, 18 February 2002, 5:49 a.m. I see them some mornings at sunrise. They come from the east, from Philadelphia Airport or maybe Willow Grove Naval Air station, moving west in parallel lanes, high up and laying down their trails. And I know in a few minutes the trails will expand and merge to form something that looks like morning haze but isn't. And I know that the night and the morrow will be unseasonably warm in this part of Pennsylvania. Let me tell you about the local weather. The winter of 2000-01 began in November with a chill that basically stayed around till late April. This is unusual. The last two summers brought only a few days of that hot, muggy stuff that your air conditioner can barely handle, and that causes brownouts. This is unusual. We had our first light frost last September. This is unusual. It was followed by an erratic but mostly mild Indian Summer that lasted into December. This, too, is unusual. I've been aware for several weeks of the correlation between the carpet-spraying of CT's and warmer weather. It comes and goes quickly, as if they run out of spray periodically. When they haven't sprayed the temperature drops into the 20F range or below. Or now, during a transition, we had a day in the 50's, yesterday in the 40's, and in Monday's wee hours it's 28. It's as if whatever they're doing induces unseasonably high temperatures for a day or so, after which what feels like an unusually cold winter settles back. Very little snow. In fact, this area has been suffering from a severe drought. Last fall the President refused to release funds to assist low-income households with heating bills on the grounds that the coming winter was supposed to be mild. It sure has been. But if you take away the balmy days that I think are artificially induced, this winter is a cold one. So how did they know it was gonna be mild, unless they planned to make it mild? Don't get ahead of me. I have already seen the fatuity of assuming the same folks who brought us 9/11--who looked the other way while companies like Enron made multimillions for their executives, who invaded a late stone age country, toppling its government and beaning its citizens with air-dropped food packets indistinguishable from explosives, and who have allegedly been doing anything they could to stop an alleged thing allegedly called NESARA from coming into alleged being--would give us a mild winter out of the goodness of their shriveled little lizard hearts. Right. Something else is at work here. While you're sorting all this, let me tell you about the article last week in the Philadelphia Inquirer. The snowy owl has been seen in eastern Pennsylvania and in New Jersey. Here's a short quote from a wildlife website on the snowy owl: Nyctea scandiaca The Snowy Owl is a large, diurnal bird of prey of the arctic regions of the world. In Canada it nests north of the tree line. OK, Nyctea does move south when food is scarce. But what's an arctic creature doing in Pennsylvania? Prelude To A Pole Shift - The unexplained migration of animal species to far off regions from their normal habitat may be a sign of impending global environmental changes. This would be as a result of a geophysical pole shift. Nature is a unified field. In order to preserve certain plant and animal species, they migrate in advance of the impending changes in order to optimize chances for survival. http://www.tstonramp.com/~wright/poleshiftnews.htm So maybe the animals all know but we aren't being told, we're just being dosed with gold and platinum particles (a trusted source told me this is what they spray) to fudge the average monthly temperatures. Even Republicans have started openly discussing global warming to cloud the facts. So that WE don't start migrating to Jacksonville and Tempe, AZ. Maybe the drought here is cause by local water vapor being frozen farther north, where the snowy owl used to live. I welcome any informed input on this theory. But if I'm right, it's a dangerous topic to discuss, even on the www. Chills Fever February. Love, oliverhaddo ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Israeli Intelligence Week 2
Karaite Sect was ancient Persian Sect (what was that kidnappers one name he used Rubaiya - straight from Persian Rubaiyat) - and of course Hassan al Sabbah and Hussein, and Omar Kayaam who wrote this Rubait had entered into the pact of the three - Sabbah of course, was the Assassin who paved the way to victory for his old friend. So story goes, but name assassins was taken from hash and Sabbah Hassan, was known as The Old Man in the Mountain, who used drugs to program his killers like today? Now project Oh Susannah was code name for this Lavon Affair, where Egyptian jews were used to murder Americans to get our support - and of course a semite, how does one tell a jew from muslim as both are semites? Now John McCain when he ran for president, heard the Bush people thought he was Manchurian Candidate and he thought this oh so funny - so he wanted his aides to spread word to Bush Camp this was true, and everytime he heard Banjo on my knee or this song Oh Susannah, he would revert into the Manchurian Candidate Killer. Now this Lavon Affair - the Mossad, or Israeli spy system, made arrangements to play on the radio of this Israeli Station, the song Oh Suzannah which set these terrorist spies in Egypt into actionone seemed to be a suicide bomber, they blew up American Libraries and Movie Houses and do not have exact count of the American dead - oh the little prankish games this Mossad playsbut they were so smart - they all got caught. Further - this coalition of people in Egypt were these Karaite Sects which are activite in California, have an interesting calendar, full moon astrology astronomy followed but note even this Symbionese Army linked their bombings to the full moon. Do not know about September 11, but all was planned well in advance, and I know this strange bible calendar, the Master Plan for Murder Keyed to Astrology and the Testaments - was and is being used. Today this sect is active in Israel and I sent a copy of information on their activities - riding in bullet proof cars - see the letter in this one item - And all this crap about torture - with drugs and all the stuff they have today a good shot of hypnotic drug and loose lips speak - like that old Song of Solomon saying made lips of those who are asleep to speak. When you see how these Zionist carrying out their murders - and see muslims being blamed for what they themelves are doing - consider like John Birch Society, they did not all join the Mormon Church - they infiltrated and this is what these people evidently do - they infiltrate and Mossad calls them to action just as in the lavon afair to do their dirty work..and oh how brave the portray these people and consider this Jonathan Pollard, and Clinton being blackmailed by the Mossad to protect their mole in the White House, one of which was Monica and the other - well they were right before our eyes all the time - right? Zionists own the Democrat money (and Larry Flynt of course)and the ADL calls the shots and takes bribes - and bribed the President of the United States. So this is story of Oh Suzannah - but I found it rather strange that McCain knew that Oh Suzannah was a trigger song for jews murder Americans and blow up their libraries and movie housessure would like to know more here, And yes, Suzanna is a biblical namelike Sharon, Ehud Barak - these men have taken their names right out of the bible, but then we do have this mysterious Burning Bush, do we not? OSaba The Lavon Affair Due to a change of plans, we will not be discussing the Mossad's role in Iraqi immigration to Israel in the 1950's. We will do that later in the semester if it fits into our schedule This week we will be discussing a spy story in Israel's early years that left a nasty mark on the young state, with reverberations for the following 20 years. It was called the Lavon Affair, after Defense Minister Pinhas Lavon, Esek HaBish or The Mishap. It revolved around nearly a dozen highly dedicated young Egyptian Jews who were asked, and agreed to spy for Israel against the country in which they were born. Why they were caught and more or less abandoned by Israel to incarceration and for a while, torture in Egypt's prisons to be finally released only 14 years later is a question that has never been answered. This story, known as Operation Susannah, is thus one of idealism and self-sacrifice, as well as abandonment and an unwillingness to take responsibility. Due to strict censorship in Israel, few knew more than in the year 1954, Israeli underground cells had been operating in Egypt which were subsequently uncovered by the Egyptian police. The young Jews were arrested and forced to undergo a show trial. Two people, Yosef Carmon and Max (Meir) Binnet, committed suicide in prison due to the brutal interrogation methods of the Egyptian police. Two more, Dr. Moshe Marzouk of Cairo and Shmuel Azar of Alexandria, were sentenced to death and hanged in a Cairo prison. Israel
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been ethnically cleansed of Jews. In future years, when the war dies down, the foreign volunteers will be able to enter Palestinian areas as tourists and carry out the Abib search. We need a contingent of brave people who are willing to volunteer for this holy undertaking. The volunteers must be healthy non-Israeli citizens of non-Jewish descent and be willing to pay their own way to Israel. To volunteer for the Abib Expedition please contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) The third aspect of the Abib plan is to work with local contacts to search for Abib barley in the areas currently under Palestinian-control. For security reasons we cannot go into detail concerning this part of the plan. 4) The fourth aspect of the plan is to hold a worldwide day of fasting and prayer for the safety and success of the Abib Expedition. Without YHWH's help this plan will fail. We estimate the above project will cost approximately $5000. To fund this project will require the assistance of Abib Keepers all over the world. The Abib is in danger of being lost. We need your help! Please send your donations to: World Karaite Movement, POB 7816, Jerusalem 91078, ISRAEL Please include a note stating that the donation is for Abib Expedition. YHWH despises those who say: Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? (Dt 30:12). Observing the Torah commandment of Abib is within our grasp. All we need is for those who have learned the Truth to work together in faithfulness and with hearts turned towards heaven and we can save the Abib calendar from slipping into oblivion. (Saba Note: Dt. 30 as referred to above - oh what curses are to befall the hated enemies of these people - they follow the BIBLE, not Talmud...they were used as spies in Egypt - and remember the USS Liberty too, for Egypt the USA is supposed to hate Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia - you name it, for Israel drives the wedge and prepares for the slaughter. Screw the Jews - see Lavon Affair and see Pollard Case and see USS Liberty and then wonder - these are friends.Operation Oh Suzannah? Bible, King James. Deuteronomy, from The holy Bible, King James version Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library | Table of Contents for this work | | All on-line databases | Etext Center Homepage | Deuteronomy, chapter 30 Compare with Revised Standard Version: Deut.30 1: And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee, 2: And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; 3: That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee. 4: If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee: 5: And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers. 6: And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. 7: And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee. 8: And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day. 9: And the LORD thy God will make thee plenteous in every work of thine hand, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy land, for good: for the LORD will again rejoice over thee for good, as he rejoiced over thy fathers: 10: If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. 11: For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. 12: It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? 13: Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? 14: But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. 15: See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; 16: In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall
Re: [CTRL] ILLUMINATI ARTIFICIAL COUNTRIES
-Caveat Lector- Well Mike those were Articles of Incorporation, right? This has always been what it was - a corporation and a legal and binding contract and only those who are legally members of this corporation who can vote, have the right to dissolve? Problem might be like ENRON.where has all the money gone from our corporation? Well Social Security is still safe, but oh now the Public Employee Retirement Systems are in trouble for they invested in ENRON. Remember when Bobby Kennedy wrote (you may not) that someday the Teamsters would be ready to receive their pensions and the money would not be there? Bobby was fighting corruption and in a sense Jimmy Hoffa was too, for this element got him too - same people who got Bobby, got Hoffa. United States is a Corporation - everything is a contract. In return, American Citizens are say stock holders. Imagine Clinton and his Wife spending all htis money, and never writing a check? Receiving millions of dollars a year and for what? Draining our Treasury Look at New York City and who will pay for this - we know who will not pay for this and it will be LArry Silverstein who took out an insurance policy and he will have 7 billion dollars Get the picture? Who picks up all the costs - we do, higher insurance rates, taxes - and these people are getting out now - they are stealing the American people blind. Think I feel sorry for ENRON employees who said they lost a million dollars? They did not lose a million dollars, and in fact most wanted to sell their worthless stock and pass it on to us. Social Security and Railroad Retirement still working but now this element is after the Railroad Retirement omoney. It was all a scam - Silverstein and Giuliani are part of it, and so was Clinton and his Henchmen - for cui bono? Who won and who lost. We know 3 thousand people died and so the victims get money more for their silence than their welfare.else why now do we have all these people who will die and be disabled because of the toxic waste in the air See who profits - watch.America is our Corporation, these elected people are our servants who have made bonded servants out of its people. To tell the truth American can no longer afford these bastards and no doubt this is why many did not give a damn when somebody sent in the Anthrax to our chosen ones..nobody really cared. It has come to this - government plans to slaughter our people and we have a choice for it is us or them? Supreme court rules that when government becomes so odious as to become intolerable to its people, the people have a right to abolish same. So Keep Your Powder Dry..George Bush warned us long ago, only thing believe he has been boxed in for you see there are killers within, the same garbage people who caused the murder of JFK, are still around - in same secret society. The Men who would be King of the World.now you know why kings and queens are on endangered species list. even Hitler's ultimate goal was to restore the house of Hohenzollern. Monarchs in waiting..and those people in England look like a lot of sick people imagine they put more than fluoride in their water and beer. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE UNITED STATES IS ALREADY BANKRUPT(2)
-Caveat Lector- Strange Muslims do not believe in Usury.you borrow money and you pay back what you borrowed. Osama bin Laden wanted these people out of his country and I do not blame him. We have seen what they are like over here? And further, Osama bin Laden did not pull off the Twin Towers Job...for cui bono. Imagine Larry Silverstein with 7 billion dollars tax free, blood money .and consider the deal that engineered that being used for dual purpose. People have let the pigs in - now the pigs have the slaughter weapons. But a kid with a load of fertilizer showed what the Wrath of God really was only they have not gotten the message yet. Look at these pigs, Ariel Scheinman Sharon, Ehud Barak now down in Texas, not even their right namestaken one out of Judges in the Bible and the other out of Isaiah. We had Waco and Murrah Building under Ehud Barak and the Gideon Forces, and under Sharon we have had the Twin Towers for a starter and many plane crases. I want to know more about that nut house in Israel where these Jewish Psychiatrists have terrorists held - are they being trained - are they the suicide bombers who are turned loose to create havoc. So Sadaam Hussein and Iraq this time will not turn the other cheekthey intend to take out Israel if they are attackedfurther consider this - those big arab nations what the hell does any of them want with a place, this hell hole called Israel - they made it hell on earth themselves. Now are we going to let this happen in America? All in God's Name..all time to the Master Plan for Murder and maybe another planned 1,000 year Reich? Its all there in your bible..read the old Testament and you see you are dealing with murderers and thieves - a vicious element in our society that calls this evil book good? Christ himself flicked it off at Isaiah 60, and said enough of that shit. Pardon, he would have said dung. This is Zionism and Zionism is Nazism - and these are the AshkeNAZI jews behind the matter - consult Adolph Hitler and his Zionist friends who paved the way to hell for the unsuspecting jews. Hey, they got them all one way tickets didn't they, from Operation Wings of Eagle to Operation Black Ethiopians. These people plan to make America a hell hole. But hey Joe Lieberman's okay, right? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Stupid is as Stupid Does
-Caveat Lector- The Company who will act as ad men promoting America as one would a pound of ground round. Well, you wonder why McDonalds is so hated - next stop America will be as hated, as Israel? Note at the bottom of this story, the author of same Norman Solomon is hawking himself attempting to get a paying job? OSaba October 25, 2001 War Needs Good Public Relations By Norman Solomon For some people, war is terror, disaster and death. For others, it's a PR problem. At the Rendon Group, a public-relations firm with offices in Boston and Washington, pleasant news arrived the other day with a $397,000 contract to help the Pentagon look good while bombing Afghanistan. The four-month deal includes an option to renew through most of 2002. This is a job for savvy PR pros who know how to sound humanistic. At the Rendon Group, we believe in people, says the company's mission statement, which expresses our admiration and respect for cultural diversity and proclaims a commitment to helping people win in the global marketplace. A media officer at the Pentagon explained why Rendon got the contract. We needed a firm that could provide strategic counsel immediately, Lt. Col. Kenneth McClellan said. We were interested in someone that we knew could come in quickly and help us orient to the challenge of communicating to a wide range of groups around the world. As a PR outfit, Rendon has moved in some powerful economic circles, with clients including official trade agencies of the United States, Bulgaria, Russia and Uzbekistan. In Washington, the firm helped organize a series of conferences on post-privatization management in the global telecommunications, electric power, oil and gas, banking and finance, and transportation sectors. Some of the clientele has been more liberal or touchy-feely: Handgun Control Inc. and the American Massage Therapy Association. Rendon proudly notes that it provided community and media relations counsel to the Monsanto Chemical Company in its effort to clean up several contaminated sites. Overseas, Rendon helped the Kuwait Petroleum Corporation to cope with labor strife and bad press when closing a refinery in Naples, Italy. Some clients have been more shadowy. Rendon worked for the government of Kuwait in the early 1990s. And the firm made a lot of money by contracting with the CIA to do media work for the Iraqi National Congress, an organization seeking the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. Now, the Rendon Group is facing what is perhaps its most challenging project yet -- spinning for a war in Afghanistan. With its sights set on media content in 79 countries, Rendon will use standard tools of the PR trade, such as focus groups, websites and rigorous analysis of news coverage. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said that we need to do a better job to make sure that people are not confused as to what this is about. It's typical of warmakers to claim that the biggest problems lie with others' faulty perceptions rather than their own deadly orders. But no amount of PR wizardry can change the cold facts: when a bomb hits a home for the elderly or a hospital or a residential neighborhood, or when a bombing campaign sets in motion a cataclysm of mass starvation. If some people are confused about this war, it may be because they remember the rationale for it: Killing thousands of civilians is unconscionable. Though you wouldn't know much about it from watching TV news or skimming the front pages, large numbers of Afghans -- many of them children and elderly -- are facing the likelihood of starvation because the bombing has forced recurrent halts to the movement of food-aid trucks from Pakistan into Afghanistan. Concern is growing among humanitarian aid workers that about 100,000 people are now in imminent peril. By winter, the number could be in the millions. Meanwhile, on television, we see footage of air-dropped meals that amount to no more than 1 percent of what's needed to prevent people from starving. That's called good PR. At this point, the playbook for the Pentagon's media game is a familiar one. Consider the words of Eugene Secunda, a professor of marketing and former senior vice president of the J. Walter Thompson firm. Operation Desert Storm allowed only one view of the battle: the one authorized by the military, he observed in 1991. Like travelers led from their buses by tour guides, the TV crews were given an opportunity to videotape the 'panoramic vista' before them, and then were whisked to the next officially authorized destination. Writing a decade ago, Secunda foreshadowed the kind of coverage we're now seeing. In the aftermath of the war with Iraq, strategic planners, preparing for future wars, are unquestionably examining the lessons gleaned from this triumphant experience. One of the most important lessons learned is the necessity of mobilizing strong public support, through the projection of a powerful and tightly controlled PR program, with particular
[CTRL] Fwd: Pentagon Readies Efforts to Sway Sentiment Abroad
it was still under Taliban rule. (Oh and dropping 100 bills from the skies.Manna from God - Saba Note) But it recently created the Office of Strategic Influence, which is proposing to broaden that mission into allied nations in the Middle East, Asia and even Western Europe. The office would assume a role traditionally led by civilian agencies, mainly the State Department. The small but well-financed Pentagon office, which was established shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, was a response to concerns in the administration that the United States was losing public support overseas for its war on terrorism, particularly in Islamic countries. (Saba note: Maybe Giuliani should have kept the 10 million dollar che and fed some pore people sitll lying in the streets of New York) As part of the effort to counter the pronouncements of the Taliban, Osama bin Laden and their supporters, the State Department has already hired a former advertising executive to run its public diplomacy office, and the White House has created a public information war room to coordinate the administration's daily message domestically and abroad. Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, while broadly supportive of the new office, has not approved its specific proposals and has asked the Pentagon's top lawyer, William J. Haynes, to review them, senior Pentagon officials said. Little information is available about the Office of Strategic Influence, and even many senior Pentagon officials and Congressional military aides say they know almost nothing about its purpose and plans. Its multimillion dollar budget, drawn from a $10 billion emergency supplement to the Pentagon budget authorized by Congress in October, has not been disclosed. Headed by Brig. Gen. Simon P. Worden of the Air Force, the new office has begun circulating classified proposals calling for aggressive campaigns that use not only the foreign media and the Internet, but also covert operations. (Hey is this the USA talking here - these cheap Tabloids already run by CIA and Mossad and MI6 - propaganda tools used to keep people in line - saba note) The new office rolls up all the instruments within D.O.D. to influence foreign audiences, its assistant for operations, Thomas A. Timmes, a former Army colonel and psychological operations officer, said at a recent conference, referring to the Department of Defense. D.O.D. has not traditionally done these things. One of the office's proposals calls for planting news items with foreign media organizations through outside concerns that might not have obvious ties to the Pentagon, officials familiar with the proposal said. General Worden envisions a broad mission ranging from black campaigns that use disinformation and other covert activities to white public affairs that rely on truthful news releases, Pentagon officials said. It goes from the blackest of black programs to the whitest of white, a senior Pentagon official said. Another proposal involves sending journalists, civic leaders and foreign leaders e-mail messages that promote American views or attack unfriendly governments, officials said. Asked if such e-mail would be identified as coming from the American military, a senior Pentagon official said that the return address will probably be a dot-com, not a dot- mil, a reference to the military's Internet designation. To help the new office, the Pentagon has hired the Rendon Group, a Washington-based international consulting firm run by John W. Rendon Jr., a former campaign aide to President Jimmy Carter. The firm, which is being paid about $100,000 a month, has done extensive work for the Central Intelligence Agency, the Kuwaiti royal family and the Iraqi National Congress, the opposition group seeking to oust President Saddam Hussein. Officials at the Rendon Group say terms of their contract forbid them to talk about their Pentagon work. But the firm is well known for running propaganda campaigns in Arab countries, including one denouncing atrocities by Iraq during its 1990 invasion of Kuwait. The firm has been hired as the Bush administration appears to have united around the goal of ousting Mr. Hussein. Saddam Hussein has a charm offensive going on, and we haven't done anything to counteract it, a senior military official said. (Saba Note: You know JFK, JFK Jr. had this charisma and charm and you know those bastards did something about that didn't they - courtesy of Meyer Lansky, ADL Man of Year, gangster, murderer, dealing in drugs and prostitution - somehow American was never so clean as when JFK was President) Proponents say the new Pentagon office will bring much-needed coordination to the military's efforts to influence views of the United States overseas, particularly as Washington broadens the war on terrorism beyond Afghanistan. But the new office has also stirred a sharp debate in the Pentagon, where several senior officials have questioned whether its mission is too broad and possibly even
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Comments Shake Japan's Economy
-Caveat Lector- Well many are called, but few are chosen Bush heard his calling and ran for President...but then he never really asked President of What, and assumed it was President of the United States. Japans problems are due to our trade with China - no more much of Made in Japan, for China now corners the market on Made in Japan for now made in China. Eisenhower was so misinformed when asked about closed shop which is Union lingo, he did not know what it meant. Which is okay, after all he was the guy who put his name to the Crest Toothpaste Fluoride Toothpaste, for the kiddies left over from Manhattan project was it? Japan is on its own now..for they have bigger fish to fry. Did Bush know what he said? No - he is a parrot in such matters, for Japan is no threat to the USA.but then there was that awful movie Pearl Harbor, then the Twin Towers, and then War in Jurassic Park. So such is the way of the world, as the stomach churns. On with the show - but hey, don't expect many curtain calls on that one. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Onward, Christian Soldiers
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cgmusic.com/cghymnal/others/onwardcs.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pentagon Propaganda Plan Is Undemocratic, Possibly Illegal
-Caveat Lector- It is illegal to give false information to a newspaper and false information they say was inappropriate? When the news media was aware of this false information, then it is collusion and conspiracy. Further if we have sunk so low to the bottom of the bilge we must lie to win public opinion, it is about take we take a good look at this government and ask where did we go wrong? There is more truth in Pravada than reading today's press..Masters of Deceit, remember that book? J Edgar Hoover wrote it, only just take out word communist, and replace it with Zionist/Mafia. Hitler said there was no Mafia, and he was right..all that crap kiss of death, and bloody rituals - this is not kid stuff with which we deal. Refer to slaughter of Czar to slaughter of the Kennedys and then see where we went wrong. Gangsters, Inc. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mayor of New York Kiss by Son or Did He Kiss Off New York
Thought the remark in this New York City Item tells an unknown tale - old biblical line, kiss the sun - lest he become angry. New York in danger and this idiot takes off but keeps in touch? Fine - no law against that, for if anyone paid big bucks for that job, well it was Bloomberg or Bloomburg..frankly I think the guy is chicken la mared - he wanted this office for the prestige and the power - how does that go The Power and Glory Forever. Bermuda cess pool of organized crime; it was Meyer Lansky, rat faced Lansky, who murdered Sir Harry Oakes (I had communicted with the family re my Hogarth prints years ago) - and Oakes was BURNED ALIVE voodoo style, to make it appear local deed. Nobody bought that, but it was Sir Harry who kept Lansky and his butchers out of Bermuda. Bloomberg is a pig; note his bearing. Professes to be a gentleman? He is uncouth barbarian. Was the press delivering a message to him, straight from Heaven? February is a dangerous month and the late Malcolm X, was murdered on the 21st of February..cockatrice eggs hatching, fiery flying serpents and scorpions coming to life for the season of Hibernation is over and the voice of the turtle will be heard in the land. First trip this guy made when elected was to Israel to kiss somebody's ass??? OSaba Psalms, psalm 2 12: Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. NEW YORK TIMES And yesterday, the mayor's face appeared to have been kissed by the sun. Or maybe he was just annoyed. (NY1 News did call around to a golf course on Bermuda, where he has an estate, and then reported that the mayor was hitting balls there over the weekend.) February 20, 2002 Can't Find the Mayor? Well, What's It to You? By JENNIFER STEINHAUER Deputy Mayor Marc V. Shaw was in charge of New York City last weekend. Or maybe he wasn't. No one knows for sure. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg declined yesterday for the third time since he was elected to say where he went for a long weekend, or to confirm that he had in fact left town. Instead, he simply indicated that he had indeed signed an executive order when he took office that relinquishes power to Mr. Shaw, the deputy mayor for operations, any time Mr. Bloomberg leaves the city. He shrugged off any concerns New Yorkers might have that he is not on call, or that he is not a 24/7 mayor like his predecessor. He said technology permitted him to be in constant touch. I am available at all times; I am here to pick the right people and delegate to them and not micromanage, Mr. Bloomberg said at a news conference at City Hall, where he resurfaced yesterday after three days of no public appearances and refusals by his press advisers to divulge his whereabouts. If they have a question, I should always be accessible, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, he said. And I am. His absences do attract attention. The New York Post went so far as to treat him like a missing person yesterday, printing an image of a milk carton with Mr. Bloomberg's picture on it. And yesterday, the mayor's face appeared to have been kissed by the sun. Or maybe he was just annoyed. (NY1 News did call around to a golf course on Bermuda, where he has an estate, and then reported that the mayor was hitting balls there over the weekend.) By steadfastly declining to reveal when and where he takes his R R, Mr. Bloomberg is trying to change the culture that mayors have embraced since at least the days of Fiorello H. La Guardia, of being on the job, around the clock, and when leaving town for the very occasional vacation, of telling New Yorkers whether they cared or not where they were headed. This was particularly true when mayors left the country, and conforms with the way most mayors operate in cities throughout the United States. He is in Palm Beach right now, said Elizabeth Sullivan, a spokeswoman for Thomas M. Menino, the mayor of Boston. Further, at a time when the nation is again at a high security alert with new terrorist threats disclosed, and the sound of low-flying airplanes in the dead of night can still unnerve New Yorkers, Mr. Bloomberg's proximity is of greater issue than it would have been even a year ago. I think the public has the right to make sure that the person they elected is making sure that they are well protected, he said yesterday. And I think that is the case. Mr. Bloomberg's intense desire to keep his personal travel plans private first became an issue shortly after the election, when he left town for the weekend and reportedly went to Bermuda. He would not confirm or deny that he had gone there, or even that he had left. The public has a right for their employees to conduct their private lives in a way that doesn't embarrass the city, but short of that, there's absolutely no reason why I should not be able to have a social life, a personal life, without having the public involved in it,
[CTRL] John O'Neill and Hanssen and Maps and Tunnels Sold to KGB
-Caveat Lector- Now remember Hanssen this FBI Agent serving two masters, dual loyalty shall we say for he worked for the FBI and the KGB; and John O'Neill kept it oh so quiet he had taken employment with Larry Silverstein when still in employ but under investigatian by his own FBI. These two men, both counterintelligence and terrorist, etc. agents, Hanssen gave all plans and maps and tunnels, etc., of Washingto DC to the KGB in return for diamonds and some money, and he sold himself out pretty cheap at that. Now John O'Neill, they say is he a hero or what is he. He took plans and drawings of New York City, including all tunnels, key locations in case of terrorists attack - this man took this stuff to Tampa Florida, lsot them along with his cigar cutter and lighterand later were retrieved in another hotel room - this was key areas for these so called terrorists some of whom were pretty home grown at that. So now Italy - why these so called terrorists they blame on Osama bin Laden, who wanted to take out US embassy using cyanide in water? These guys are French Moroccians - brown tone skinned, not arabic hue of grey tone skinned people. Strange isn't it, KGB wants plans of underground tunnels andplans in Washington and this New York agent then losing similar plans? Say how about that dual loyalty for before this is over, remember it is the Mossad who use Egyptians jews to blow up movie houses in Egypt and use their planes to bomb US Liberty.dual loyalty. Here is story re more these people who do not lie now, re plan to poison the water in the Embassy. Osama's trademark was on holy land to Muslims, he would attackthis is not his style. OSaba Ital Italy foils al-Qaida cyanide attack NBC: Poison meant for water at U.S. Embassy Security officers with machine guns patrolled the U.S. Embassy in Rome in September. NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES ROME, Feb. 20 A foiled plot to poison the water at the U.S. Embassy in Rome with cyanide was the work of al-Qaida, U.S. officials told NBC News on Wednesday. In all, officials said, at least six strikes by Osama bin Laden's terrorist network have been thwarted since the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States. A look at the 22 suspects ITALIAN POLICE ARRESTED four Moroccans in a raid on an apartment on the outskirts of Rome, seizing false documents, maps of the city and what they said was a substance believed to contain cyanide, police said. Officials said the U.S. Embassy was marked on the maps. Italian news reports said the city's water supply network was also on the maps, but U.S. officials told NBC News that the target was actually the embassy's water system. They said the suspects had obtained the data on Rome's waterworks to determine where they could insert the cyanide for maximum effect. Cyanide is a water-soluble poison that can be used as a chemical weapon. State Department sources said they were concerned that the plot was an attempted chemical attack, which would be a new card in the terrorists' hand. The U.S. Embassy thanked the Italian police and security forces for their excellent work concerning the most recent security threat against the embassy. But it added that the case in question is still an ongoing investigation, and therefore it would be premature to comment any further at this time. WIDESPREAD CONSPIRACY Advertisement Col. Gianfranco Cavallo of the Carabinieri, the paramilitary police force that carried out the raid in a poor neighborhood on Rome's southern outskirts, would not comment on news reports that the Moroccan suspects had a substance that could yield poison cyanide. But the Rome newspaper Il Messaggero reported that police seized nearly 9 pounds of powdered cyanide itself along with the maps of Rome's water system. Other Italian news reports said one of the four Moroccan suspects had links to a suspected Milan cell that was dismantled last year when seven Tunisians were arrested in northern Italy. In telephone conversations wiretapped before their arrest, the suspected members of the Milan cell referred to a drug using the code name tomato cans, which Italian authorities said they believed to be cyanide. State radio reported that about 100 blank documents used to certify that foreigners had permission to live in Italy also were found in the suspects' apartments, indicating that the plot intended to bring scores of other people into the country illegally. Three other Moroccans were arrested in the capital last week as part of the investigation, Italian news reports said. LATEST DEVELOPMENTS THE WAR Bush eyes 'evil' North Korean from border Al-Qaida suspects held WashPost: Tales of U.S. bombing mistakes Complete coverage THE HOME FRONT NYC fire station gets back to work Video captured firefighters on Sept. 11 Complete coverage It was unclear whether the attack was planned before or after Sept. 11, U.S. officials said, but
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Sign this please-WTC Flag Raising petition
-Caveat Lector- So Neuropsychotic - the lights would be beautiful, eternal lights - with a fountain and flowers something beautiful.and the Unknown Soldier, one monument for many, would suffice. This picture of the firemen has commercial value - it would be nice to have this flag and the picture time capusuled or put in airtight fixture someway. But too many people died in this - also Murrah Building, the scene I wish I could forget, but can still see - this Fireman holding a small maybe 2 year old child, limp in his arms and dead. These pictures I do not like to remember, but it is engraved in my mind. So something beautiful, trees, and these beautiful lights which could be eternal lights with flowers, trees, and a beautiful fountain - there was a day care center in that place too. If I would design this thing it would be the lights you like, but I would have statutes of small children and trees and flowers and something beautiful with the marble benches where people could sit, and meditate. Who the hell wants to remember the ugliness. OSaba 50 years from now no one name will be important - Unknown Soldier Tomb, represents all those who did not return. There are no doubt a lot of people buried there who had no family who have not yet been counted. Look at Georgia - over 200 bodies this guy did not cremate and have just now found bodies in his back yard, one in coffin. This is horrendoustoday on TV showed this beautiful pale little blonde girl, maybe 10 years old who died.she was to be cremated and they gave her ashes and she took to park where the dolphins are and now they find her body as just thrown in a heap. There were 75 to 100 white people with candles and this guy was black - and his parents who did run the place, were all black. One extreme to another, but in Georgia this could - this is so horrible so what do they do here. It is so ugly, Imagine a man in a coffin, his boddy rotting death in a yard, hundreds of bodies rotting away exposed and nobody noticied. but remember what they did at twin towers, gave people urns with dust from bottom. To me this was sick. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Suspension of manna articles update on Fritz
-Caveat Lector- What are the charges against Fritz Springmeir? Now Mark Korneke, I was told once to watch him for he would be in Columbus, Ohio and on Public Service TV. Their interests were in of course this JFK assassination - this was shortly before Murrah Building. So I was sitting there listening to Mark Koerneke thinking gee, he looks like almost a G Gordon Liddy, or FBI agent, clean cut, intelligent from what I had heard. And then suddenly, he said well are you with me or against me, words to this effect. And he said, if you are with me will you be able to use one of these - and I about jumped out of my skin, he tossed down a sub machine gun. So he did nothing illegal, but I was only interested in this JFK conspiracy. I decided he was somewhat of an adventurer, very sincere in what he believed, and also a little too much for me. I didn't expect that submachine routine. Now I have to say this - these men who are getting arrested and put into prison, are doing things they should not be doing. Some see things in a different way and sometimes that old line the wicked flee when nobody pursues comes to mind, for once and I had an FBI watch on me once, and they said they were exterminators out to eliminate a pest (me, would believe that).but I felt no harm for I was just a researcher who took a lot of chances, but I sure as hell would not go out and start loading up on machineguns.Me, I got a pit bull.mean lean fighting machine eats me out of house and home but would lay doon and dee for me. So what the hell are they doing messing around with guns, and marijuana and drawing unwanted attention to themselves, get into all this trouble wlere legally they are just plain wrong - and then, think about it. This Danny Pearl, had a pen and laid his life on the line for what he believed without an arsenal in the basement. So what did Fritzmier do - he had to do something. Like this man and his dog the LA Sheriff burned alive, and said it all went as planned - to date, I do not know what this guy did - nothing, but it gave the police the excuse to murder him and burn him and his dog alive. And Wacothey were in the wrong - 4 men killed, Delta operating under orders..cannot tell who walked into the trap, for this Koresh was nuttier than a fruit cake but BATF had the chance to take him out of the picutre without firing a shot. Mark Korneke - was acting like a mad man. And I say this that day when he reached behind the lecturn or whatever you call that thing, and dumped down a submachine gun - no way, I am out of here. So Goodbye Fritz and with a name like Fritz, hey - welll nuff said. Will bake a cake with a little saw. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Investigators recover corpses from vaults, sheds near crematory
Oh such gentle treatment these people are receiving for they are negros, the son and the parents both contributed to fraud, descecration of the dead, and Lord knows what else. But when I read the story, there was the picture of this negro, the son, and at the time of the picture in his backyard was a dead body in a coffin, decaying.hundreds of dead bodies stacked around, and nobody noticed a strange odor. Now in the end, if I had someone die, and they were cremated - the body would be given to an undertaker BY LAW and these are the men responsible in my opinion and it was their duty to see these bodies were cremated and cared for properly. More aflluent people have the bodies cremated with the very expensive caskets, at least the people of which I am aware, this was the case. So all these white people had a candle light ceremony today - 75 or so to 100 peoplewas this a black on white crime? This little beautiful blonde haired girl the mother took her ashes she thought, to the dolphins - the little girl loved dolphins, and now her little body is dumped in a heap of rotting flesh? Now I say this, if this was the old days, remember Stone Mountain Georgia - thre would have been a bright light flaming from this Mountain, and this old Klan, the old southern aristocrats - were normally law biding citizens. But anyone as evil as this family and how they are protecting this negro family - they would just disappear, from legends I have heard. This is the most horrendous story as of late I have read.and was it a hate crime? Many hate crimes? No charges filed against the parents of this man, for oh they are such lovely people. And no doubt this is not an isolated incident. More Comanies of Undertakers, mourning, and putting on the God Forbid Act while lining their pockets. These people took how much money to take care of the dead, I have a friend who had a dog and the funeral cost him over $1,000 with the casket, no prayers, family affair, but if anyone had done something like this to his dog, they would have been hell to pay. OSaba Investigators recover corpses from vaults, sheds near crematory ASSOCIATED PRESS NOBLE, Ga., Feb. 20 - Stacks of decomposing corpses were recovered Tuesday from vaults and sheds near the Tri-State Crematory, including one body that had been dumped aboveground in a casket behind the operator's home. FORENSICS TEAMS HAVE so far counted 191 bodies left to rot outside the northwest Georgia crematory, said Buddy Nix head of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. Officials said 29 bodies have been positively identified. Some corpses were found in body bags, while others were dressed in clothing or hospital gowns or wrapped in sheets, said Kris Sperry, the state's chief medical examiner. Five bodies were pulled from under a mound of dirt. Human remains were found in at least six caskets that had been buried, dug up and then left on the property. Sperry said he had no idea why the caskets had been exhumed. Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson said his deputies were using a helicopter to survey other properties owned by the crematorium operator, Ray Marsh, and his family. Divers planned to search a nearby lake. As the grisly rescue operation entered its fourth day Tuesday, residents in three states faced the heartbreak of planning funerals for loved ones they had long believed were resting in peace. I feel like I'm in a horror movie, said Leatha Shropshire, whose mother died Jan. 30 and was found dumped in the 16-acre area behind the crematory. Tuesday night, about 120 people attended an hour-long candlelight memorial at Oakwood Baptist Church in nearby Chickamauga. Pastor Darrell Henry encouraged the families to remain hopeful. We wish it hadn't happened, this horrible person who would show such disrespect for a dead body, Henry said. But remember, those are just bodies. The spirit is already gone. Hopefully, you can take some comfort in that. Relatives of Doris Mae Tierney of Cleveland, Tenn., whose body was to be cremated at Tri-State after her 2000 death, sued the crematory Tuesday and the funeral home that handled her body. Marsh, operator of the crematory in this rural town 20 miles south of Chattanooga, Tenn., has been charged with 16 counts of theft-by-deception. His bond hearing has been delayed while he tries to hire an attorney. Marsh, 28, refused a request for a jailhouse interview. Magistrate Jerry Day said Marsh was calm when he talked to him Monday in his jail cell. Investigators have said Marsh told them the bodies were not cremated because the incinerator was broken. Authorities said they were unsure how long it was not working, but evidence shows some dumped bodies have been there for 15 years or more. Gas records have been subpoenaed to determine when the crematory was last used, Nix said. Sperry declined to speculate about how high the body count might go. The
Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Did Six Million Really Die?
-Caveat Lector- Well Neuropsychotic - it states no credence given to holocaust denial.and no nazis need apply. Are these two the same thing? Did you look up the word credence? Are you saying this man is a Nazi because he disputes facts which are subject to dispute by many individuals. So these statements are not true - this is your opportunity to take a few of them and prove they are not. What was that over used term Sharon (Ariel Scheinman Sharon) used yesterday - the proof is in the pudding... Someone once said what the hell does that mean. My objection is simply this - the USA is becoming a Memorial Ground for the Holocaust but hey, not one monument to the soldiers and military who died in WWII nor to the 55 million some who died and then the Christians who died in Russia. but now we have our own Holocaust, the Twin Towres - thousands burned alive or blown to bits or bothnow we get a Memorial there, to the dead and honored, but Larry Silverstein gets the 7 billion dollars in insurance money? No doubt the World Trade Center will be named The Silverstein Buildings..note how the landmarks and their names change? So now New York City has this Bloomberg as their Mayor - watch this man, he has the decorum of a Jimmy Hoffa or a Rat Faced Lansky and why not - he ran with the pack no doubt with that ADL connection. Is Kris still moderator of this list; further Neuropsychotic, noted a lot of footnotes - check each one out and tell me, where is false information being passed about. Should he be banned like Davis Irving, and this is one line that makes me sick - for being a Holocaust Denier. So Cyber Tiger - remember to include everybody, its Gypsies, Jews, and Homosexuals..to which you must now add the mentally challenged and disabled...did we leave anybody out? Why no memorial for our men who died in WWII.so statute of Unknown Soldier, one size fits all? Did any of these bastards every thank the Americans for anything - the billions of dollars we now send to Israel to slaughter and murder the Palestinians? This God Machine - Gold, Oil, and Drugsmy old MI6 friend wanted to change the title of my manuscript to The God Machine but I rather liked Premeditated Murder by Prophecy - the Valleyof Hamon Gog sub title, from the Garbage thre blooms the rose - jewish mafia talk - cartage business, you know the ones who dumped remains of firefighters in dumpsters and the firemen got mad? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Program
-Caveat Lector- Andrew this is a beautiful site and love the music I cannot pick up your show here for I do not have a Grundig or whatever type it takes. Did note here though, yesterday skies read to eastern sky to north, and I knew something would happen and we did get hit by 65 mph winds, etc. Almost like NE Norther Lights so they were messing around. No serious damage but thunder and lightning and my house seemed to be charged for tiny little lightning bolt hit a tree on which I have these large round frosted bulbsI could hear it crack as I was sitting near same. So somebody censors you, you should be flattered Point - maybe there was some interference here - for once in the mid 80 period, had this one radio which was special, with weather band, etc., and I oould pick up these woodpecker signalsand I think my office everytime they would test these generators suddenly weather would go haywire - horrible storms, solid sheets of ice and the worksroads closed, and it was always February then when this occurred. Guys from Cleveland Ohio in on setting this most expensive thing into operation. So there are generators and transmitters somehow used, and this was when ARCO (oil co). was involved in this program, but it set a lot of interference about and then at the same time from Kentucky, these stupid lasor beam light shows.that bunch moved out but once I looked up over this show and saw clouds moving - from north to south, and east to west and west to east, and north to south all above this area which had grown black with stormsalways happened around 4 30 pm... Think this could have caused your program to have problems over here? Anyway beautiful site, Andrew. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pentagon Readies Efforts to Sway Sentiment Abroad
-Caveat Lector- Somebody got in deep water on this one Jei - for yesterday Donald Rumsfeld did a little side step and said no they would NEVER lie to the pressnever, never, never. The press can lie on their own, very well - same wurlitzer. They are the children who will not lie of Isaiah. But then they did send out this handsome Colonel Nicols to explain they were defensive and I believed that guy - a good soldier. Wore his flight jacket, and not one of those stupid camoflage chameleon suits looked like something out of WWII class. A REAL soldier. So then Rumsfeld also said after all it was their duty to defend our shores, and protect our people.no more of that protecting our national interests - he took that straight out of the Constitution. Think somebody from above, high above, shot a few lightning bolts at these idiots and they were forced to read the Constitution of the United States of America, which they are sworn to defend and protect, for this document is our country. Ever thing of that - this piece of paper, this treasured document IS our country. Without this document we have no country and each state would answer unto itself. But even Jefferson Davis stated the Constitution of the United States if it were to be destroyed, he would not want to fight the Civil War. So - what is that line again to provide for the common defenseand where were they on 911? Well no doubt, providing the common defense for our national interests. Stop giving Israel billions or at least arm up the Palestinians and lets put them on Saturday Night Wrestling or something, you know, so the American public can witness Israli kids and Palestinians kids being slaughtered with yankee doodle money for sport? Without the New Yorks Times and our news media - could anyone find Israel on the map surrounded by those 5 big arab countries? So Rumsfeld - begins to know the law. And this Colonel they could not have picked a more handsome devil to support the cause for the national interests.he had charisma. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Did Six Million Really Die?
-Caveat Lector- Well, to tell the truth Kris - only read the first part of his six part publication. If I want to read War and Peace I will go to the library. Never had the patience or feel the need to read that huge monstrous book either. If I get time will read this guy's remaining five chapters. So Kris, I understand - you do not want to start WWIII on your list. OSaba aka Colleen A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: More evidence on Pearl kidnapping
Also arrested and accused of sending the e-mails were Sheikh Mohammed Adeel, a constable with the police department's special branch, and Saqib, the cousin. Both are thought to have links to an extremist group called Jaish-e-Mohammed. No doubt if Danny Pearl is dead, he is dead because this police affilliation involved in kidnapping - Danny Pearl would have trusted the police, right - the Blue Berets, are these the special police force pictured with this one mastermind? The blue sheet or blanket - the blue berets and all Danny Pear had with him was a pen or pencil? So it looks like for sure police in on this kidnapping; and were those police chains which bound Danny Pearl's hands? These Blue Berets it is said uniforms sometimes stolen and used by underworld. And what is this underworld of criminals; well if one calls murder and sabotage and kidnapping crimes, this is it? Would contract killers be underworld figures? And two now right out of Great Britain timed sleepers read to go for the days grow longer and hibernation period is over. Trust these Pakistanis over there? Or this Afghanistan bunch - we send civilized troops over there and it is like fighting in Jurassic Park - civilized people have no chance with barbarians from the stone age. This story is appalling; have read Danny Pearls stuff, and to me it sounded more like he worked for the UN, for most of his stuff seemed to involve humanitarian needs. OSaba More More evidence on Pearl kidnappingPakistani suspect says reporter believed to be 'anti-Islam' MSNBC NEWS SERVICES KARACHI, Pakistan, Feb. 21 A 21-year-old Islamic militant charged in the kidnapping of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl told a judge Thursday that the journalist was seized because he was anti-Islam and a Jew, his lawyer said. IN A CLOSED-DOOR deposition, Fahad Naseem, 21, admitted sending e-mails announcing Pearl's kidnapping on orders of British-born suspect Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, according to defense attorney Khawaja Naveed Ahmed. Naseem was among three people arrested for sending the e-mails announcing Pearl's Jan. 23 abduction, which included photos of him in captivity. Naseem was brought to court with his head covered by a hood and surrounded by three dozen heavily armed policemen. Several vehicles mounted with machine guns parked outside the court building, and armed police patrolled the rooftops of this congested neighborhood in this southern port city, Pakistan's largest. Naseem gave his statement to the judge in a closed-door session which even excluded his lawyer. The lawyer told reporters what his client had said based on the official transcript, which was not made available to reporters. Naseem was ordered jailed pending trial. Officials cleared out the entire floor where the 1½-hour deposition hearing took place. According to the lawyer, Naseem told the judge that on Jan. 21 two days before Pearl disappeared he was taken to a house he had never visited before by his cousin Salman Saqib, a co-defendant in the case. At the house, Naseem said Saeed gave him money to purchase a camera and that he was later given a scanner to send e-mails, Naveed said. According to the lawyer, Naseem said Saeed told him there were plans to kidnap someone who is anti-Islam and a Jew. Naseem claimed that he had never met Pearl personally, Naveed said. Saeed appeared in court last week and admitted to his role in the kidnapping. He also told the judge he believed Pearl was dead. INVESTIGATING REID Pearl, the Journal's South Asian bureau chief, was abducted on his way to a meeting in Karachi with Islamic extremists. He hoped they would provide information about e-mails exchanged by Pakistani militants and Richard C. Reid, the so-called shoe bomber arrested on a Paris-to-Miami flight in December with explosives in his sneakers. Four days later, an e-mail sent to Pakistani and international media showed photos of Pearl in captivity including one with a gun pointed to his head and demanded that the United States repatriate Pakistanis captured in Afghanistan who are being held at a U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. A second e-mail sent Jan. 30 said the 38-year-old reporter would be killed in 24 hours. That was the last known message from his captors, and the question of whether Pearl is alive remains unanswered. Investigators traced the e-mails to Naseem, who they said had the messages stored on his laptop computer. Extras to help you understand this complex story: In-depth features Multimedia Interactive library Also arrested and accused of sending the e-mails were Sheikh Mohammed Adeel, a constable with the police department's special branch, and Saqib, the cousin. Both are thought to have links to an extremist group called Jaish-e-Mohammed. Twelve days ago, Naseem and the other two suspected e-mailers were
[CTRL] Fwd: Amazon.com: buying info: The Secret War Against the Jews : How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People
in bombing two U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998. Federal agents also are looking into whether any of the SAAR-Safa entities committed crimes, including money laundering or income tax improprieties or possibly illegally offering support to overseas terrorist groups law enforcement sources said. Huge sums of money zip among these firms and foundations, and some of the transactions can be traced on tax forms filed with the Internal Revenue Service. For example, in 2000, a charity called the York Foundation whose president is Mirza and which is based in the same building on Grove Street in Herndon as SAAR and Safa Trust received $400,000 from Safa, tax forms showed. The same year, York dispatched $400,000 to a related entity called the York International Trust on the Isle of Man, where tax records are kept private. SENT TWO SUMS In the two years before SAAR went defunct in December 2000, it sent two sums to an entity on the Isle of Man, the Humana Charitable Trust one for $168,000 and another for $9 million. Much of SAAR's work has been continued by its affiliate, Safa. U.S. officials suspect that the ultimate recipients of the funds were linked to terrorists, but they are not sure. And the officials acknowledge that the participants could have engaged in subterfuge to avoid paying taxes. Government officials said that even if no crimes are proven, it might serve the counterterrorist cause to simply disrupt the flow of money. Other federal officials said the probe is part of a much wider effort tracking funds flowing through Saudi charities and firms that end up being used by groups deemed by the United States to be terrorist, such as al Qaeda and Hamas. The U.S. government has seized the assets of several leading Saudi charities and asked Saudi authorities to keep tabs on others. While the latest probe of these entities began years ago, U.S. officials say it heated up after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But sources said they had to plan their raids in a hurry starting two weeks ago because of a telephone call from a lawyer in Florida. John Loftus, a former Nazi hunter for the Justice Department and more recently a lawyer for U.S. intelligence agency whistleblowers, contacted government officials March 11, saying he was about to file a lawsuit in Florida against Al-Arian that would lay out the ties among him, the International Institute, various of its affiliates and Saudi interests. Customs and Treasury officials hustled to prepare their raids for March 20, the day that Loftus filed his lawsuit claiming various frauds by Al-Arian, Loftus and government officials said. There was no coincidence, Loftus said. Saba Note: Oh what would we do without these self appointed experts...and the filing of many lawsuits. Do you know how many CIA operatives then called OSS died for these bastards in WWII and how many Americans died and all the kids are permitted to learn is that 6 million jews died but hey they forgot the homosexuals and the gypsies in with this bunch and the 55 million who died total, and not once reference to the American Soldiers who died, whose children were without fathers and mothers left on their own and NOT ONE NATIONAL MONUMENT FOR WW VETERANS for you see these god damned bastards decided one size fits all when it came to one day for all the dead in all the wars.and do you realize this element is engaged in massive lawsuits to destroy America - this rotten corrupt element that JFK and RFK tried to week out and were murdered by them..vicious vendetta and the ultimate goal with the Rosicrucian Society is to DESTROY the Catholic Churchand here it is. Today if Afghanistan now these queers are again permitted to train and school little kids for male homosexual prostitution and run the streets - and the woman without the veils right after the war as they called it were prostitutes? That this is a design to destroy anything decent in this country until we are reduced to the state of a Sodom and Gomorrah? So read a bit here but read between the lines and see who this man is - he is an ADL Stooge, a front man - and like this Rosenberg who is out to disarm America, this pig is at the trough. Are aware that already homosexuals are out in the streets in Afghanistan wilovers parading around our soldiers have died for gypsies, jews, and homosexuals Now Afghanistan is free to slaughter more US Soldiers and we are paying them to so do...and whores and homosexuals may freely abuse the male children in the streetsd to be little Barney Franks, while terrorists are being trained by Israelis in Florida to take on American Citizens.in deadly combat - so Remembaer the USS Liberty and our men who were murdered and napalmed by Israelis for 45 minutes as they lie dying and wounded on deck. Saba John Loftus at 70 : work from the fifties to the present by John Loftus A View from the Bridge
[CTRL] Fwd: WABC Special - Interview With Esther Pollard
Because of Jonathan Pollard nearly 1 million Iraqi children have died - and note here is John Loftus, who is not the man with the secrets but the man who betrays the secrets of his country - this man is for hire, he wears a mask - no for whom does he work - this is a propagandist tool for the Zionist Cause - who has filed a lawsuit to promote his books. He came pretty cheap at that - strange he would push in on the Pollard Case yet ignore Marc Rich, the ADL association with Meyer Lansky and this murder inc., the man who ordered the Kennedy hits for taking on this Jewish Mafia - oh pardon me, cannot call them Jewish can we - let us call them this Pig Mafia - who deal in drugs, slaughter, prostitution, pornography, and this gun for hire - toss in demolition of America which is also under contract at this point in time. And keep in mind that in 1974 the Mafia bought out 5 major publishing houses in America.. Saba WABC Special - Interview With Esther Pollard Justice4JP Release - July 27, 2001 Originally aired on WABC Radio 77 NYC - June 23, 2001 The John Batchelor and Paul Alexander Show PART I Click here to go straight to Part II. John Batchelor and Paul Alexander, later joined by Rabbi Joe Potasnik, begin their 4 hour Pollard Special by introducing listeners to the facts of the case. They then interview Jonathan Pollard's wife, Esther. John: Mrs. Pollard, Good evening. I want to introduce you to our audience: this is Mrs. Jonathan - Esther - Pollard - and I'm John. Paul: and I'm Paul. John: I began with a reading of the facts of Jonathan Pollard's case from 1983 and 1984. And I want to ask if you want to expand or correct any of the information I read at the top of the show. Esther: First of all, I was listening and you did a wonderful job. There are indeed a couple of comments I would like to make. John: Just one moment. The rabbi is with us now. Rabbi Joe are you there? Rabbi Potasnik: Yes I am, and I want to thank you because there have been so many wrongs committed against Jonathan Pollard. Only when we have a coalition of Jews and Christians standing together is there some hope for justice, finally, for this man who has been in prison too long... And I say thank you to both of you for expressing this desire in trying to bring this case to the attention of all the people who don't have all the facts. John: Yes - we've got some serious work tonight. Excuse me, Mrs. Pollard - Esther - I wanted to make sure Joe was there for us. Boy, is this a coalition! Esther: I'd like also to join with Rabbi Joe in thanking the two of you, John and Paul, for what we call your mesiras nefesh - the dedication and devotion that's required to get the truth out there. Your opening comments tonight were indeed right - there has been a conspiracy of silence on this case. There has been a conspiracy of silence to bury the truth. John, you asked for my comments on your introduction to the case. Can I come in sideways and ask if you have ever heard of a fellow named Albert Sombolay? John Paul: No. Esther: And it's a really curious thing that most people have never heard of Albert Sombolay - His case immediately came to mind when you mentioned earlier that U.S. forces are on full alert tonight because of the Iraqi threat. Let me tell you about Albert Sombolay. He's the epitome of a traitor. He was a U.S. soldier who spied for Iraq during the Gulf War. John: Oh, yes, yes. You're right! You just kicked a cobweb. Go ahead, please. Esther: This guy gave Iraq samples of the American chemical warfare equipment that was worn by American soldiers during Desert Storm. He gave them the protective suits, the boots, the gloves - all the protective gear that was worn by American soldiers. Which meant that all Iraq had to do was manufacture a chemical agent that could penetrate this gear. Iraq wasn't competent enough to get it done during Desert Storm; but you can bet that they've got it done by now. Albert Sombolay, by definition, committed treason. According to American law, the definition of treason is spying for an enemy in time of war. Now, remember that Jonathan Pollard did not commit treason: he spied for an ally, and it wasn't a time of war. Jonathan Pollard got life. What do you think Albert Sombolay got for handing over to Iraq all this information about U.S. troop deployments and equipment during the Gulf War? John: Go ahead. This is an incredible series of events that have led to all these men being let out of jail. It's incredible. Esther: Sombolay got 34 years; then his sentence was reduced to 19 years with further appeals pending. Then the case drops off of the radar screen as the U.S. government began to hide the information, making it impossible to find out about further reductions that were made to Sombolay's sentence. In all likelihood, Sombolay is free today, but it's very hard to confirm that. John: But I've read through the list of Cold War spies and men from the Cold War era who are walking around free today
[CTRL] Fwd: U-WIRE.com/Man sues U. South Florida prof over claims of conspiracy with Saudi Arabia
Note a lawsuit in Oklahoma was filed against Iraq and you can imagine what inspired this..this is big bu$ine$$ for this Lomas is out to steal the Arab gold and consider the Twin Towers and the Saudi gold at the bottom and then ask again cui bono? Larry Silverstein a man who was bankrupt in 1991 - 7 billion dollars. Jewish Mafia murdered John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedywhy are they protected in this country and Meyer Lansky's son goes to West Point? You see Gore and Lieberman were to have won this last election - for all things were ready for a Zonist TakeoverGore married into the Schiff family throuh his daughter and professing to be a born again Christian - but now take a good look at New York City - and see cui bono? Well Larry Flynt prospers and this ADl prospers - Marc Rich prospered and this cororupt evil element has America by its throatsee Israel this hell hole and see America for now America is as hated as Israel around the world .and then ask who really is behind this EU? Now how many Americans died in WWII or was it just 6 million jews - the denial of the 55 million others who died but all these Holocaust Landmarks over this country without one National Memorial to WWII men who died for jews, gypsies, and homosexuals - and now the Afghanistan war - the homosexuals and their child lovers alread in the streets with painted prosatitutes. REMEMBER THE LAVON AFFAIR AND THE USS LIBERTY.. OSaba Man sues U. South Florida prof over claims of conspiracy with Saudi Arabia By Ryan Meehan The Oracle (U. South Florida) 03/21/2002 TODAY'S HEADLINES (U-WIRE) TAMPA, Fla. -- The pending situation involving controversial University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian compounded Wednesday when a former federal prosecutor filed a civil suit against him in state court. John Loftus, president for St. Petersburg's Holocaust Museum and well-known author on terrorism and intelligence, is claiming Al-Arian conspired against the United States with the Saudi Arabian government. He also alleges Al-Arian used the guise of a charitable organization to funnel money into Saudi terrorist groups. Al-Arian said Wednesday the allegations are nonsense. (Loftus) needs to be put in an insane asylum, Al-Arian said. He characterized Loftus' claim as rehashed allegations that already have been disproved. According to a St. Petersburg Times report, Loftus said in the suit, which was filed in state court Wednesday, the U.S. Department of Justice has had enough evidence to charge Al-Arian, but making public Al-Arian's money-laundering network would embarrass the Saudis, who are American allies. Loftus also was quoted in other news sources as saying an unnamed government official has taped conversations that prove Al-Arian's guilt. The suit compounds Al-Arian's problems as he awaits the decision of USF President Judy Genshaft, who sent him a letter of intent to terminate late last year. Al-Arian, a Palestinian who has lived in the United States for nearly 30 years, came under fire eight years ago when allegations a USF-based Middle Eastern think tank, which he founded, served as a front for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The FBI four years ago investigated the claim but never found sufficient evidence to charge the professor with a crime. In October 2000 Federal Judge R. Kevin McHugh said though Al-Arian's think tank, World and Islam Studies Enterprise, was accused of serving as a front for PIJ and Hamas, there was no evidence that proved that allegation. Instead he characterized WISE as a reputable and scholarly research center. USF's faculty union President Roy Weatherford announced the pending suit at Wednesday's Faculty Senate meeting. After the meeting, Weatherford said the suit will not change the union's decision to support Al-Arian if he is fired by Genshaft. He said people sometimes mistake the union's support for Al-Arian, making the assumption its support stretches farther than academic freedom. This is an entirely personal, private issue, Weatherford said. We're not his personal support group or his political cheerleaders. Weatherford said even if Al-Arian loses the civil court battle, Genshaft still does not have justification for firing him. A three-member panel from the American Association of University Professors visited USF last week and met with both Al-Arian and Genshaft. The group will gather information on campus and write a report on its findings. If the panel determines Genshaft has violated academic freedom, USF could be censured, or blacklisted, by June 2003. Because the visit took place during USF's spring break, Chairman for the panel William Vanalstyne will be at the Embassy Suites for two hours this morning to meet with professors and representatives from the student government. Any content distributed via U-WIRE is protected by copyright. U-WIRE is a division of Student Advantage, Inc. ---BeginMessage---
[CTRL] Fwd: Spy Vs. Spy
What big bu$ine$$ this anti semitism business is..you have Morris Dees of this Southern Poverty Stricken League, and this ADL headed up by Abraham Foxman, and their line of attack is against White Christian Americans and Militia. To date the ADl, this American Federation of Scientists which is not an official group but more like a well federation, like the Lazaras store perhaps, or Macys - but theyhave a common goal and this is to disarm white America.. Here is a lovely item written by one jew to another jew...such lovely people. What the hell are these people doing in this country. This Jonathan Pollard should have been executed - this Hannsen should have been executed, and this John O'Neill who took the job with Larry Silverstein was he a fall guy or are they all a bunch of cheap hoodlums and spies for this Israeli element. Interesting story - The ADL is nothing but a front for organized crime - the Bnai Brith, is a psuedo masonic order and they each bless the other - tell me why is it okay for Bnai Brith to be Masonic but not nother masonic orders? Martin Luther King okay for him and Jomo Kenyatta and his Mau Mau to be masonic, but not true blue Americans?Want to see American blown to hell and back - or do we want America to do the right thing for a change. Stop funding for slaughter of arab children. Maybe time for descendents of those of the USS Liberty or those murdered in the Twin Towers to file a few lawsuits - but you see in order to collect some of the oney they got - they had to sign waivers to any lawsuits - really. SABA REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY Spy Vs. Spy April 16, 1993 - Si Frumkin Here are a few a appropriate quotes, proverbs and clichés: People In Glass Houses Shouldn't Throw Stones (or the modern version ...Shouldn't Walk Around Naked - both apply in this case); Pride Goes Before the Fall; What Goes Around Comes Around; Lo! How The Mighty Have Fallen; Though the Mills of God Grind Slowly, Yet They Grind Exceedingly Small; and there are many others, but you get the idea, right? What am I talking about? Why the ADL, of course, the Anti Defamation League of B'nai Brith, hee-hee and chuckle-chuckle. I am talking about spying, the heinous, despicable crime that the ADL couldn't forgive Jonathan Pollard for, and for which they denounced Jonathan again and again and again. His sentence was not motivated by antisemitism, they said. He is a criminal and must be punished - no matter what his motives may have been. He broke the law and the Jewish community shouldn't get involved in asking for reviews, clemency, pardon, or anything else. None of us are above the law, they said, and, voila, just look what happened to the sanctimonious ADL, the holier-than-thou, and certainly holier than Jonathan Pollard, Anti-Defamation League: a national scandal, front pages of major newspapers, dozens of lawsuits, all because it stands accused of, guess what, yes, yes, spying! And so, hee-hee, and chuckle-chuckle, and maybe even tsk-tsk, at how the mighty have fallen. We mustn't forget that the ADL was one of only two remaining major Jewish organizations that opposed any efforts on Pollard's behalf. Never mind that B'nai Brith members all over the country voted overwhelmingly for helping Pollard, that officers of the B'nai Brith openly spoke and lobbied on Pollard's behalf; never mind all those messages from the grass roots, from the members who ostensibly control the ADL, Foxman, ADL's czar, knew better than all that rabble, he wouldn't have anyone tell him how to run his little kingdom, and so, the ADL wouldn't be budged towards compassion and understanding. How strangely appropriate that it is now the ADL that needs compassion and understanding! By the way, the other organization that refused to have anything to do with helping Jonathan Pollard is the America Jewish Congress. There is little point in discussing the AJ congress; after all, when you consider that this is a Jewish organization that sued not to have a Chanukah menorah in a park in Beverly Hills, there is very little left to be said. I have no sympathy with most of the people the ADL spied on - former Congressman Pete McCloskey is far from being one of my favorite people, neither are the various nazis, klansman, Arab activists or other such slime. I wonder, however, what they did with all the files that accumulated over the last 20 years or so, during which they had inveigled a former president of the L.A. Jewish Federation Council to launder ADL's money to pay an informant whom they didn't want to be shown on ADL's roster of employees. There have been quite a few instances of antisemitic vandalism throughout the country each year and while the incidents are catalogued, evaluated and distributed as lists and percentages by the ADL, I do not believe that the organization has done anything to prevent them from taking place. Let me put it another way: if your synagogue - or your home - was the target
[CTRL] Fwd: S. Africa report blasts AIDS science
S. Africa report blasts AIDS science Ruling party document questions established theories AIDS sufferer Nomathemba, who has no access to AIDS medication, plays inside a plastic jungle gym at the Sparrows Rainsbow Village, a village for the terminally ill, in Roodepoort, South Africa, on Sunday. It calls on South Africans not to be bribed or intimidated by drug companies who mistakenly believe the nation's people can be bought and terrorized. It also condemned accepted truths about the disease as simple extensions of the racist stereotype of Africans as immoral, diseased and sexually depraved animals. SABA NOTE: Tell me are they still slaughtering White Farmers in South Africa - let them come to Georgia Crematorium and see what fine upstanding citizens we have down there - why one made Chairman of Democrat Party..understand might be in the Used Body Part business - bit Tri State Level connections. ASSOCIATED PRESS JOHANNESBURG, South Africa, March 22 The ruling African National Congress has given its top officials a document that questions the existence of AIDS, condemns AIDS drugs as poisonous and describes Western attitudes to the pandemic in Africa as blatant racism. Take our interactive quizzes Sign up for our free health e-newsletter THE DOCUMENT, obtained Friday by The Associated Press, was a collective effort by several high-ranking ANC officials and was distributed by the party to members of its National Executive Council at a meeting last weekend to discuss the government's AIDS policy, according to Peter Mokaba, an ANC parliamentarian and member of the council. Mokaba defended the document as information sharing in the ANC. It brings together all the elements, so to speak, of this debate, he said. Science says all of those things that are quoted in there. CONFUSING MESSAGE Dr. Saadiq Kariem, the party's second-ranking official on health policy, called the document ludicrous and worried it could confuse South Africans about how to prevent the spread of HIV. South Africa, with an estimated 4.7 million people infected with HIV, has come under a hail of international criticism for its perceived lackadaisical efforts to fight the pandemic. It has resisted starting a widespread program to give the AIDS drug nevirapine to infected pregnant mothers to prevent the spread of HIV to their babies during labor. Advertisement It has ruled out providing anti-retroviral AIDS medicine through the public health system, emphasizing the side effects of the medicine. President Thabo Mbeki also has sought the counsel of dissident AIDS theorists, whose widely condemned ideas about the disease are presented prominently in the ANC document. Mbeki's spokesman Bheki Khumalo did not return a call seeking comment. The document questioned the scientific story that is told about the HIV/AIDS pandemic. The 114-page thesis intersperses quotes from news stories, dissident theorists and mainstream scientists with conclusions from the authors. The document, which repeatedly condemns the omnipotent apparatus that enforces mainstream belief of AIDS, claims no one has ever isolated the AIDS virus, HIV tests are absolutely ineffective and AIDS drugs are poisonous. Africans are the latest victim of scare mongering about AIDS, the document says. REPORT CONDEMNS DRUG MAKERS It calls on South Africans not to be bribed or intimidated by drug companies who mistakenly believe the nation's people can be bought and terrorized. It also condemned accepted truths about the disease as simple extensions of the racist stereotype of Africans as immoral, diseased and sexually depraved animals. The real problem in Africa is poverty, the document says. The West was using AIDS to ignore its costly responsibility to help the continent's development. Instead, the West was offering far cheaper condoms and drugs. In addition to the ANC leadership, the document was also given to leaders of the South African Communist Party and the Congress of South African Trade Unions, the ANC's partners in the government, Mokaba said. AIDS drug pulled from U.S. review Kariem, the ANC's health secretary, said the paper's questions about the link between HIV and AIDS and the virus' transmission through heterosexual sex fly in the face of reams of scientific studies. I can't imagine anything more farfetched than that, he said. He worried how doctors across the country would be able to convince hesitant patients to wear condoms during sex in light of the document's claims and he questioned why his party distributed it. It's irresponsible for senior leaders of the ANC to be putting out documents of this nature. It sends out a confused message, he said. In the end of the day the ANC will be the laughingstock of the world. The document also
Re: [CTRL] Whose Got The Funk? (was: opposition to Israel)
-Caveat Lector- I imagaine June and Neuropsychotic absolutely fall apart when Fats Domino sings I got a whole lot of lovin..such a romantic figure however does not appeal to me - not my cup of tea. Different strokes for different folk and there is no accounting for individual taste. Prefer the Irish Tenors . OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Was there a Leak on Noah's ARK? Mass Exodus in Israel
-Caveat Lector- Here again does Israel know something we do not know - will someone set off a little Israeli nuclear backpack and blame on Muslims. Better yet - note in this item the Israelis await our troops to come to Israel to save them again - from whom and what? Why themselves. Further - it would seem to me that this mass exodus like lemmings to the sea is hiding a great truth. Like Oklahoma that day, remember who all did not show up to work? And oh the Twin Towers - well that terrorist insurance was the best investment this former bankrupted Silverstein who has cut deals in Israel, ever made. So behold, what awaits Israel for you see the scapegoats have been called upon to get shot at for these cowardly Israeli soldiers now want out - oh not much fun when Palestinians start to fight back with litle bombs - but are the really Palestinian Terrorists - what about that nut house in which reside many terrorists - think there is a chance some have been programmed there and Negav where American Negros deparatment under guise of Black House of Israel - any of them going to return like maybe this one terrorist who said he was French but does not speak French left holding the bag? Like little John Walker Lindh putting on the phoney French Moroccan accent? So rats leaving the ship of state maybe letting others to die - say like Twin Towers for to drop from 10,000 dead to 3,000 - thats indicator something wrong here - were there those who stayed home to watch the Big Show on TV that day? So on with the show - CNN and MSNBC usually thrive on disasters.now in Germany the rich ones it is said got away...Kissinger, Albright - and Herr Kissingr you are aware was KGB agent Code Name Boroh this alleged brilliant man lapdog to Rockefellers but has the servant replaced the masters? Nice story is true - some people like to suffer and others like to inflict the pain - which only Bill Clinton seemed to feel - but not at Waco where the hand of Israeli terrorism was evident - did they train these homsepun boys to be killersand in Florida Israeli terrorists training D Platoons to protect Americans but at the same time - planning a little torture too boys? Israel is sick - but the sickest of the lot is the Slaughterman, Arien Scheinman Sharon.oh he must thrive on pain and suffering.I imagine he was a good soldier at Sabra but tell me think he will ever live long enough to be tried as War Criminal - Saba E-mail message From: xx Date: Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 6:06am The Next 72 Hours No man knoweth the hour - but the next 72 could be exciting. A mass exodus is occurring from Israel. 200,000 have left for Passover elsewhere. In-tourism down to 25% or less than normal. Planes arriving quite empty and leaving quite full. Many college foreign dormitories practically empty that before had large enrollments from North America. Hotels and such facilities filled to only 10 to 20% capacity. Many facilities like the Latter Day Saint campus practically empty. Cruise ships not visiting and many exchange and other programs cancelled. This has been going on for months but has greatly accelerated in last few weeks and days. , There has been discussion of sending US troops to Israel as observers and peacekeepers for a proposed ceasefire. There will be plenty of facilities to house them. US troops are very much on the move. Complaints from N. Korea and China about US bomber movements. US General reported to Congress last week that it is necessary because of shortage of aircraft carriers for the Pacific (the carriers have been sent to Mid-east). He said it is consequently necessary to land base bombers in South Korea and Alaska. China replied, Do not look upon Taiwan as a land based carrier. Correspondent in Winnipeg reported several times seeing fighter escorted B-52s headed North at high altitude. Wanted to know reason why. Above was my explanation. US troops also reported very much on movement in Mideast. Being shifted out of Saudi Arabia to other locations. Over 7,000 British Troops arrived in Pakistan this week. Britain notified Iran and Iraq that they would initiate use of nukes if either of them used WMD. Not as strong a position as US which has said it may use tactical nukes for a variety of reasons. Turkey said it would not commit troops to fighting Iraq but would provide logistical support. Saddam restrained - because given first action by him and US would pounce in a moment and then other Arab countries might say - Well, Saddam, you brought it on yourself. All united, however, that US should not attack Iraq - but general consensus is that this is not going to restrain US. Israel completing 20,,000 reservist recall. Troops on extremely high alert for 25th (tomorrow). Lots and lots of terrorist activity - but while being reported not being dramatized in papers. Very little Israeli response - almost all preventitive ratther than retributive. Israel showing
[CTRL] Forsooth - Are the Gideons Coming to Steal more Gold
Picture Orde Wingate going to war with his bible open to the Judges in the Bible and the story of Gideonthis man was a psycho and paid killer - an English Zionist who paved the way to hell. The call these Gideon Forces, for Gideon was a hit and run expert like Tim McVeigh wonder if Israel still has those little nuclear back packs. On Guard for they always get you when your guard is down, right? OSaba Story of the Golden Earrings - and paid mercenaries hired to slaughter innocents The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Judges, chapter 8 1: And the men of Ephraim said unto him, Why hast thou served us thus, that thou calledst us not, when thou wentest to fight with the Midianites? And they did chide with him sharply. 2: And he said unto them, What have I done now in comparison of you? Is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abi-ezer? 3: God hath delivered into your hands the princes of Midian, Oreb and Zeeb: and what was I able to do in comparison of you? Then their anger was abated toward him, when he had said that. 4: And Gideon came to Jordan, and passed over, he, and the three hundred men that were with him, faint, yet pursuing them. 5: And he said unto the men of Succoth, Give, I pray you, loaves of bread unto the people that follow me; for they be faint, and I am pursuing after Zebah and Zalmunna, kings of Midian. 6: And the princes of Succoth said, Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand, that we should give bread unto thine army? 7: And Gideon said, Therefore when the LORD hath delivered Zebah and Zalmunna into mine hand, then I will tear your flesh with the thorns of the wilderness and with briers. 8: And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him. 9: And he spake also unto the men of Penuel, saying, When I come again in peace, I will break down this tower. 10: Now Zebah and Zalmunna were in Karkor, and their hosts with them, about fifteen thousand men, all that were left of all the hosts of the children of the east: for there fell an hundred and twenty thousand men that drew sword. 11: And Gideon went up by the way of them that dwelt in tents on the east of Nobah and Jogbehah, and smote the host: for the host was secure. 12: And when Zebah and Zalmunna fled, he pursued after them, and took the two kings of Midian, Zebah and Zalmunna, and discomfited all the host. 13: And Gideon the son of Joash returned from battle before the sun was up, 14: And caught a young man of the men of Succoth, and inquired of him: and he described unto him the princes of Succoth, and the elders thereof, even threescore and seventeen men. 15: And he came unto the men of Succoth, and said, Behold Zebah and Zalmunna, with whom ye did upbraid me, saying, Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand, that we should give bread unto thy men that are weary? 16: And he took the elders of the city, and thorns of the wilderness and briers, and with them he taught the men of Succoth. 17: And he beat down the tower of Penuel, and slew the men of the city. (Wonder of wonders - another Tower beaten down and by whom and what? Maybe like Twin Towers - saba note - and boy there was a lot of gold at the bottom of the Twin Towers which belonged to the Ishmalaites - Saudi Gold, big bucksand then the gold Silverstein gets 7 billion dollars in insurance - saba note) 18: Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna, What manner of men were they whom ye slew at Tabor? And they answered, As thou art, so were they; each one resembled the children of a king. 19: And he said, They were my brethren, even the sons of my mother: as the LORD liveth, if ye had saved them alive, I would not slay you. 20: And he said unto Jether his firstborn, Up, and slay them. But the youth drew not his sword: for he feared, because he was yet a youth. 21: Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Rise thou, and fall upon us: for as the man is, so is his strength. And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and took away the ornaments that were on their camels' necks. 22: Then the men of Israel said unto Gideon, Rule thou over us, both thou, and thy son, and thy son's son also: for thou hast delivered us from the hand of Midian. 23: And Gideon said unto them, I will not rule over you, neither shall my son rule over you: the LORD shall rule over you. 24: And Gideon said unto them, I would desire a request of you, that ye would give me every man the earrings of his prey. (For they had golden earrings, because they were Ishmaelites.) (So here we have grave robbers virtually - taking gold from the dead bodies of Ishmalites..seems to be a lot of that going on today - right - saba note) 25: And they answered, We will willingly give them. And they spread a garment, and did cast therein every man the earrings of his prey. 26: And the weight of the golden earrings that he requested
Re: [CTRL] Whose Got The Funk? (was: opposition to Israel)
-Caveat Lector- Well Joshua Tinnin is a low browtoo and I do pronounce you and June man and wife. Here we have it, a marriage made in hell. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Report of de Mohrenschildt's suicide was missing.
-Caveat Lector- A lot of these documents are sold and put on black market; for instance Elvis Presley's autopsy report disappeared and Bob Pope, Head of the National Enquirer offered $50,000 for it.this was the original reportso some who had the copies of this might have made a few bucks. Bob Pope was also CIA and lived right across the street from de Mohrenschildtit is said accordiong to my friend that during the night though the windows had been barricaded, etc., one could see lights in the house after he suicided AS I recall a quite a few witnesses either suicided or were fold in oil drums cut down to size like Johnny Rosselli - and as they say where there is a testament thre must by necessity be, the death of the testator - or knock off the witnesses for dead men tell no tales. Pope also ordered $50,000 for the location of Jimmy Hoffa and when my friend found out about this man who was in the same cell with Hoffa for over a year, who had entertained Meyer Lansky on his farm, and who was up for murder charges, etc etc etc.had a few calls for me to go to work to get info - and then I discovered I was spying on murder inc. Nice people.but then again, dead men tell no tales and after all these days, intellectual property theft is quite common - OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Whose Got The Funk? (was: opposition to Israel)
-Caveat Lector- Okay Neuropsychotic to each his own - I do not bother anybody that does not bother me first - for instance the idea is to forever destroy the white race and these blue eyed blonde haired children and oh how jealous some of these people have always been of the blonde chilren. In fact so much so when my brother in law was at Pentagon on Joint Chief of Staff - the plan was to absorbe the colored race amongst the lower classes but as it turns out now with Guess Who's Coming to Dinner we see the ultimate goal still in the plan. I made it quite clear that my kids and my grandchildren will NEVER NEVER NEVER be taught that it is okay to cross a racial line - what you do is your business for I do not care. White America is the target and of this no doubt you are well aware. As King said he did not want to be our brother in law, only brother - to each his own. Are you so ignorant you do not understand what built the white suburbs? It was to get awaya from this black element and why not be honest about it. I do not want them for a neighbor, or brother and heaven forbid - well last night I watched a portion of the Academy Awards, in time to see Sidney Poitier or whatever his name is and oh how brave he was, so walking tall for what he did - he portrayed a black man with a higher class white, about to get married - for yousee this is what it is all about. Long as they stay off my turf I do not care but all this garbage about how much we are missing not joining in with the Gay Pride, the Homosexuals, and Lesbians - the Barney Franks and Janet Renos of the world - so not to associate with people such as this is my right and I do not expect this garbage to be pushed on my family and I am just no longer polite about it - Maybe you use public pools and public baths and even share a hot bath without discretion but from when I come, people now build their own pools for nobody is going to get into an AIDS infested, disease infested swimming pool where the color lines have been eliminated? To each his own.I like GOOD music, and those Irish Tenors one has ears like Tea Cups but he at least has a soul and some talent and they do not need all the crap to enhance their voices. So why don't you move to Georogia now - such a lovely state - a cess pool - Africans running loose and now they desecreate the dead. Most people with whom I associate, or all no doubt, on a workplace if you must work without your own office and fortunately I always had my own private office and bathroom - one must treat all with respect. Fortunantely too I have always most of my life worked for the head honchos..and could be particular with whom I associated. Maybe if you had seen some of the medical reports I have seen on some of these people working for a psychiatrist/psychologists in the past - you would be a little more particular with you you share a bath, a pool, or a john. But again, some put manure on strawberries but I prefer cream on mine. OSaba White Rose Society A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story
Well after watching Rosie on TV tonight I can see why this lound mouthed Joan Rivers took a couple of digs at her. Not sure what she said exactly except when Rosie came out of the closet her alleged paramour left her for she did not know Rosie was a lesbian Tonight Rosie was on FOX with O'Reilly and on verge of tears several time and backtracking on some of the gun stuff for she cried not for the gun remarks but for herself no doubt - after all this powerful woman, many believe, took down K Mart in her fall. So now she fights the gay causesaid it was right after Columbine she made the gun remarks and golly gee she did not mean that. It was in the agony of the moment. Guns but what about those little propane gas tanks those kids had - K Mart also sells those. So a little item about homosexual priests which can be house trained with a little help but only the pedophiles like Michael Jackson, whose nose fell off - these cannot be cured. Such lovely people - so Rosie backed down but now Gay Motherhood is her forte.on the verge of tears and near hysteria O'Reilly was gentle with her as compared to some. Rosie is mad at Hollywood and maybe this is why this Joan Rivers who drags her little clone about with her - went out of her way to make an obscene remark about here the night of the Academy Awards.it is said 1 billion people watched the Academy Awards and I do not believe this to be true for Gallup would be up the next 1000 years on that one. Garbage in, garbage out...oh the humanity. So the Catholic Church no longer will tolerate these degenerate Priests.who will be treated differently than other homosexuals and why not - they have dirtied up the Church so open the floodgates and get them all for they broke a vow.so now in this one black church in particular - well the Church is closing down 4 black churches in Chicago no doubt to assist in the payment of the lawsuits..rob Peter to pay Paul? OSaba March 25, 2002 Whistleblower!: FBI Agent Reveals Clintons' Role in 9-11 Home · Columnists · Late-Night Jokes · Archives · Cartoons News Alerts · U.S. News Links · PriorityGrams · Int'l News Links · MoneyNews Contact Us · NewsMax Store · Classifieds · Get Your Site Listed With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Click Here Click Here Monday, March 25, 2002 2:04 p.m. EST Leo: Sex Scandal Priests Not Pedophiles The sex scandal rocking the Catholic Church has been wrongly characterized as one of pedophilia, says U.S. News World Report columnist John Leo. True pedophiles are rare, he contends, citing statistics that show 5 percent or less of priests accused of molesting children actually fit that description. Most sexual victims of priests are teenage boys, according to one estimate. A study of Chicago's 2,200 priests identified 40 sexual abusers, only one of whom was a pedophile. The distinction may have important legal implications. The church expects to be hit with an avalanche of lawsuits filed by victims who assert officials acted irresponsibly by merely reassigning offending priests to different parishes after psychiatric treatment. But, notes Leo, Abusers of teens are generally treatable. Pedophiles aren't. That argument could let church officials reasonably claim that they believed priest-abusers who had received treatment had been rehabilitated. So why aren't church officials themselves pointing out the distinction? Most likely because opening up the issue of sexually-active gay priests is itself explosive, even apart from charges of abuse, surmises Leo. Still, even if the church manages to weather the legal storm, the scandal's impact is likely to be long and profound, predicts the columnist, adding, Confidence in the integrity and basic honesty of church officials is basically gone. A product that might interest you: Find Out What the Pope Really Believes Printer Friendly Version Inside Cover Stories Freed Louima Cop Charged With Perjury Rosie: Gays Make Better Parents Rukeyser Slams Public TV 'Mafia' Leo: Sex Scandal Priests Not Pedophiles Gray Davis: The Man Californians Love to Dislike Republican Gubernatorial Hopefuls Ahead in Three States Cheney: U.S. Will Halt Saddam's Nuke Bid Congress AWOL at Ridge Briefings 9-11 Anthrax Connection Resurfaces Some Pedophiles Get Pass From Media Virginia Guv Deems Jesus Statue a Threat More Inside Cover Stories Contact Us · Financial News · Late-Night Jokes · Article Archives · Employment Ops. NewsMax.com Privacy Statement All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com ---BeginMessage--- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/3/25/130520 ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] The Jesuit Oath Exposed
-Caveat Lector- Bill had to laugh on this one - it is put out by Ian Paisley - the hated preacher and the one who pushed to get Bernadette Devlin shot - for he said she was demon seed. Remember her? The Church sent her out like a Joan of Arc and when she was shot, thought, she did not leave the Church but rather had children and set aside the revolution and this was in 60 period. In my MS I accused him of peaching hatred from his pulpit but you see that was okay to hate the Irish.think they will ever take away their guns? Anyway this oath of the Jesuits do not believe this to be true for the Jesuits were to go out as teachers and no doubt spies...G Gordon Liddy was Jesuit or had Jesuit training and maybe went out on his own like all those Masons who leave to do good work - in both secret orders they get a bit of the truth as to what is going on, and then make your own choiice I presume. Robert Blair Kaiser was a Jesuit - he wrote RFK musat die.he was way ahead on this programming of killers for yousee today this country is full of programmed killers of which Sirhan and Oswald and Hinckley and Chapman, etc etc etc can be included and toss in the doomsdayers for there they are turned loose upon us. Rituals of the catholic church are all in the bible essentially - the bible to me is a book of knowledge but this is one of my favorite chapters and the word schism in in this chapter, and this word is only once in the biblethen came Martin Luther .and after than everything did not come up roses. I think this Ian Paisley has been cloned for that guy must be 100 years old by now for he was old then...and note the fighting was in Londonairy - in Armagh County Ireland - note two big Armageddons one in Holy Land and one in England and now maybae three going because now that USA has identified with Israel we, are the Scape Goats. Nice people.so first come the teachers..like over there in Afghaistan they have a problem now - all those books the USA put how with its hate filled propaganda .what is that old line, suffer little children? OSaba All through New Testament you find he rites of exorcism, and the little pope who was put to sleep, was reading Imitation of Christ when he died - whom I called the Little Yellow Bird, with wings of silver and gold like Psalm 68. So as they say, Psalm 68 I think - The Lord Gave the Word, and Great Was the Company that Published it..always wanted that for a motto and used it once on a news letter I had years and years ago...company of one. Anyway the body of Christ - consists of many members and no all are perfect if you note by the news of the queers invading the Church as a safe haven and refuge. No longer Mr. Nice Guy the Church will not give them the boot rather than attemt to reform thembroken vows not fit to be a priest..or among children. 1 Corinthians, chapter 12 1: Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2: Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3: Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 4: Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5: And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6: And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7: But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8: For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9: To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10: To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 12: For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13: For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14: For the body is not one member, but many. 15: If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16: And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17: If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18: But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19: And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20: But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21: And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of
[CTRL] Fwd: CTRL] Majesty Twelve: By William Cooper
that idea, and has supported its formation. When the leader of the USSR banged his shoe on his desk at the United Nations and screamed, We do not have to invade the United States we will destroy you from within, he was absolutely correct. The progression of accomplishments toward the completion of the plan to implement one world socialist totalitarian government is guided and controlled by the hierarchy of the Illuminati in the groups known as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, the Round Table Group, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and many others including the Illuminati in government and industry who are members of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern and Northern Jurisdictions, the Supreme Council of the York Rite of Freemasonry, International Zionism, B'nai B'rith, the Grande Lodge of France, the Grande Lodge of England, the Order of the Golden Dawn, the Ordo Templi Orientalis, the Rosae Crucae, the Sovereign and Military Order of the Knights of Malta, the Knights Templar, the Jason Society, the Vatican, and many others too numerous to list, see the Occult and other links on our home page. Part V Politicians are controlled through the accumulation of dossiers by the FBI, the IRS, the CIA, the Mossad, MI6, the ADL, the KGB, and other Illuminati controlled organizations. Those who do not have incidents in their past that allow control by blackmail will be put in positions by one or more of the above organizations that will result in one or more incidents which will allow control by blackmail. The Las Vegas Brothel run by Bob Lazar was found to have video cameras throughout and was used for the collection of information with which to blackmail politicians, military personnel, and anyone else who needed to be controlled by the Illuminati. Anyone who will not play by the Illuminati rules are weeded out and quickly disappear from politics. Remember that it was 33rd Degree Freemason Franklin Roosevelt who created the Federal Bureau of Investigation run by 33rd Degree Freemason Hoover. The FBI and IRS are, in fact, the political Gestapo for the Illuminati in the united States of America. The end result of all of this will be the destruction of the sovereignty and Constitution of the united States of America. All those in and out of government who support the policy of one world government are knowingly and willingly engaged in High Treason. Regardless of what you have been led to believe Senator Joseph McCarthy was absolutely correct and in fact the recent opening of the files of the KGB proved that he even knew the exact number of communist agents who had infiltrated our government. The revelations of history, the records of the KGB, and the recent release of the NSA deciphered cables to and from Moscow by the Venona Project have vindicated Senator Joseph McCarthy. He was destroyed by the Marxist owned and controlled news media and Hollywood. The branding of anyone who dared to expose communists and their goal of the ultimate destruction of the United States of America as McCarthyites insured the increased infiltration and rapid takeover of our government by Marxist and communists over the intervening years. Those who believe in the Book of Revelation in the King James version of the Holy Bible and other religious and/or superstitious People are being intentionally led into millennium fever so that they will calmly await without opposition to the new world order the workings of the hand of God. After all... who could oppose the bringing to fruition of the inspired prophetic Revelation of God. There is more... much more... as you will come to realize on your own over the coming months and years. Of the hundreds of predictions which William Cooper has made based upon this knowledge he has only been wrong once... so we recommend you take this revelation very seriously. Seek out and join a Militia or form one in your area. If you wish to remain Free you will have to fight for it... not because we want to fight ,or you want to fight, but because the traitors will give us no choice in the matter. Saba Note: Is Bob Lazar one of the Traitors? And Testor Toys and its theft of intellectual property of others - cui bono? ---BeginMessage--- http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg37762.html ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] More on the Black Water Phenomenon
-Caveat Lector- So Edward and Andrew is this the heating up of the water someway for the weather control program this el nino and la nina? Remembr the little sea animals used these jet streams in the waters to travel.when the lemmings disappear in the water they do not drowned - for they enter into these currents and are taken far away. Even sea turtles use them. But suddenly they have found a lot of these sea animals who travel no doubt around the world in these streams dead or dying Think they are heating it upand now I still remember the project where Russians wanated to put black soot on the snow to do with this weather program.black would keep light out of the seas, right and then would the fish die and plant life etc. be effected. So Bermuda Triangle - what a crock that was for this was all about Weather Modification but people would rather like fruit cakes believe in UFO's and devils in the sea. OSaba Black Water..like dead sea A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More on the Black Water Phenomenon
-Caveat Lector- Andrew remember we were warned the year of la Nina and el Nino and I believe they heat up these streams some way so what if they like Mt St. Helene set off something under there with same effect. Psalm 46 the Baconian Cypherthere is a river but this time is it underground jet streamsand as they say too what brings on the sharks so close to the shore is like riddle why did the leopard climb the mountain. Just a thought. How you doing Andrew - love your site on the webbeautiful. So now you are musician and writer - and your knowledge into the occult, etc. is really something. Colleen A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/3/27/173612 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Public Schools Rehired Sexual Pervert
Wednesday, March 27, 2002 N.Y. Times Ignores School Molestations The New York Times, like the Boston Globe and other members of the leftist, anti-religious media establishment, has prominently run numerous articles about pedophiles and homosexual molesters among the Catholic clergy - but is strangely silent about the molestation scandals in our wretched government schools. Parents at a Harlem middle school said yesterday they were shocked that a school aide, accused of sexual abuse four years ago, returned to the school to allegedly prey on a second teen - because cops were never told about the earlier incident, the New York Post reported today. I'm totally horrified, said former MS 54 Parent Association president Betsy Combier, who has a seventh-grade daughter at the school. The procedures to protect our children aren't there. Fanon White, a 31-year-old aide, was charged with statutory rape and sodomy. He was fired in 1998 when a student accused him of repeated sexual abuse. After he challenged his firing, state bureaucrats reinstated him with back pay in May 2000. He is also accused of sexually abusing another 14-year-old pupil outside the school last fall. A search of the Times and its Web site revealed no coverage at all of this case. Is it because the Iron Lady, packed with advertisements of luxury goods, doesn't care what happens to poor people in Harlem? Or is the silence due to the lack of a priest's involvement? This is the same newspaper, you'll recall, that censored all mention of the horrific rape and murder of young Jesse Dirkhising by two Arkansas homosexuals. Of course, had the killers been clergymen the story would have been big news. Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics: Media Bias A product that might interest you: Get the video of Chris Ruddy vs. Mike Wallace - Blows the lid off media cover-ups! Printer Friendly Version Inside Cover Stories MSNBC Revamps for Cable Ratings War Aides Join Condit in Hot Seat Robert Ray: I Can Work With Hillary 'Bitch' Maxine Waters Enraged at L.A. Police Official New York Times Ignores School Molestations Hillary Chum Touts Presidential Run on Irish Trip IRS Exposes Offshore Credit Cards Vicente Fox: Immigration Lawbreakers Not 'Illegals' Oscars Expose Hollywood Bigotry Ray Won't Discuss Secret Clinton Evidence Carville Demands Refund from Zell Miller More Inside Cover Stories Contact Us · Financial News · Late-Night Jokes · Article Archives · Employment Ops. NewsMax.com Privacy Statement All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com ---BeginMessage--- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/3/27/173612 ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Britain accused on terror lab claim
-Caveat Lector- Knew that was a lie too whenI read it - furthere there are so many anthrax germs in Afghanistan - none too fatal of course, but it is a land of camels, sheep, goats and goat hair now used for certain materials for importing purposes must be loaded with the stuff. USA and Russian or the Soviety Union had all the good stuff and the USA was a leader in collectiong oh so many nice plagues in a bottle. Tlhis idiot who lived 30 miles from me had bubonic plague germs which he just bought from a lab and of course, they tried to say he was an Aryan Nationi connector and if he was you can be sure he was informer for FBI. Just noted today, had a show on WACO, and there stood Janet Reno in red, telling how they wanted to save the children and my god, I knew there ws something sinister but there were these men wearing Nazi war helments - and I mean looked like they went to a Nazi surplus store - and lo and behold they turned around and the uniforms said FBI. Now since when did FBI start wearing Nazi German soldier helmets, and I mean battle helmets. Were these Israeli trained terrosts and were this god damned helmets used for spite. About time Bush cut them off from CIA and Intelligence Activity for you know - the KGB has maps and plans of Washington DC including all the secret tunnels, etc., and New York City - and don't tell me this Hannsen and that Japanese killer who was at Waco and Ruby Ridge, who murdered a little 8ths graders dog while the others murdered the kid and who bliew off a woman's face who was holdiong a baby - do not tell me this men are Catholic or FBI - rather obvious for whom they worked - Maybe too many lost laptop computers and stolen secrets - and you see the end result now in New York City and also the end result of what was planned, for Washington DC. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Lies, Lies and More Lies......Or this guy Daschle is getting senile
-Caveat Lector- There has been a Shadow Goveernment since WWII.that I know of for sure. Used to be in cities there would be bomb shelters but when it comes to direct hit don't know how safe . Hub Taft had bomb shelter in Cincinnati, Ohio (my sister had worked for Tafts) but one day in the 1968 or 69 time frame, he went to chek out his shelter and boom..what got me he had a gardner by then name of Liming(remember The Third Man movie) whom I always thought at the least was a spy - Any must sister had been working down there as she worked for Taft Broadcasting and WKRC...they had a big yacht and lived high on hog and this Hub Taft was said to be a very kind and gentle soul - anyway my sister liked him. OSaba Shadowy Government Story By Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid March 27, 2002 On March first, the Washington Post lead story was headlined, Shadow Government Is at Work in Secret. The article purported to break the news that in the name of the classified Continuity of Operations Plan, a cold war contingency in case of nuclear war, the Bush administration was secretly operating a back-up government in a location that the Post agreed to keep secret. This was held up as evidence implying that under the cover of fighting a war on terrorism, the Bush administration was engaged in some sort of dark conspiracy. The plans include the long-term housing of between seventy-five and a hundred-fifty senior administration officials from various executive branch cabinet offices. The term shadow government quickly became secret government, as in Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle's comments that, None of us knew about the secret government,. He said this to Tony Snow on Fox News Sunday, citing it as an example of the chasm that exists between the Bush administration and Congress when it comes to information on the war. Tony Snow, however, had done his homework, and asked Daschle if he hadn't actually been to one of the sites since September 11th. Well, Daschle replied, I don't know if that's the site.. I'm told it is, said Snow, So now you know. NewsMax.com quickly picked up on this story, and pointed out that news of the so-called Shadow Government had been reported last October in the Cleveland Plain Dealer. And indeed it had. The article spoke in great detail of the plan including as many as two-hundred employees from the federal government. It said they work in secure facilities outside Washington D.C., as part of a continuity of operations plan. The plan's purpose: to make sure the U.S. government can operate if cataclysm strikes. The program dates back to Ronald Reagan, who set this up for situations of national security emergencies. Congress had held hearings, and appropriated money for it through the various administrations. Following Daschle's charges of a secret government, and that Congress hadn't been informed, the White House disputed that account, saying the appropriate people on Capitol Hill knew about it. House Speaker Dennis Hastert acknowledged having been fully briefed. In addition, Senator Robert Byrd was briefed by a military official, but after a few minutes Byrd ended the briefing, saying it wasn't necessary. The Secretary of the Senate and the Senate sergeant at arms, both of whom work for Daschle, acknowledged full briefings. The air finally came out of this story when Daschle backed down. Four days after the story broke, he went to the White House for a meeting, and spokesman Ari Fleischer announced that they had reiterated to the Senator information that had previously been provided to people who work for him. An obviously embarrassed Daschle then announced, I think there ought to be a cease-fire on who knew what. I'm satisfied a contingency plan is in place that takes into account a pretty dramatic need for succession. Now we're just waiting to hear from the Post. Reed Irvine can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Like What You Read? | Back To Media Monitors Section | AIM Main Page | A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] Do Freedom of Information Act Files Prove Foreknowledge Of Pearl Harbor? (1 of 2
-Caveat Lector- Note this book this guy wrote AT DAWN WE SLEPT.and JFK wrote a book WHILE ENGLAND SLEPT. So Japanese have masonic orders, and the Emporer of Japan it is said was a Mason - evidently he was familiar with Illuminati - when you look at Stalin and Roosevelt and Churchill (who was definitely Illuminati) - one sees Sadaam Hussein, George Bush, and Tony Blair but somehow they do not come off at the Big Three of WWIIso goodbye New World Order for the internet has been its greatest stumbling block. After muder of JFK a lot of clues were left by insiders sworn to secretcy for those with enquiring minds. So this item from Mathew - once when I was in the midst of my research I read this stuff about Roosevelt or whomever knowing about the attack on Pearl Harbor in advance. So I checked my bible calendar code the one in the GIDEON BIBLE..and sure enough this Chapter from Mathew - and in this one bible I had which had concordance on the top left side of page had the caption The Rising Sun.figure that. So if you read this chapter, you find by the dawn's early light on a sunday the first few verses and the word DAWN.Japanese attack word was Climb Mt. N.and I can never remember that mountain but it was not Nebo, for Martin Luther King, Jomo Kenyatta, and Moses climbed that one and Jomo who wanted to avoid crucifixion playing role of Moses (see Norman McKenzies Secret Societies) - Jomo saved his own skin and what do these men all have in common, Jomo, King, were Black Masons an Moses, well I Am That I Am - he might have been a Royal Arch for all we know. Anyway JFK and the author of the other book knew something too - no doubt as militiary men, they knew the deep and secret meanings of the bible, some of which only the IMAM will now. OSaba The King James Bible Matt.28 1: In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. (Sunday, Dawn - first Day of the week) 2: And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. 3: His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: 4: And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men. 5: And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6: He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. (rising son - or sun - sabo note) 7: And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. (symbolism of The Rising Sun or Son saba note) 8: And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. 9: And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. 10: Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. 11: Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done. 12: And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers, ** 13: Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept. ** 14: And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you. 15: So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day. 16: Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17: And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Regardless, While We Slept - like Twin Towers..strange isn't it for the Twin Towers is linked to this bible calendar too - date wise - even mentioning David Kore(sh) Fiery Flying Serpents and when the Towers fell.strange. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives
[CTRL] Fwd: EU imposing steel taxes of their own
Won't dealing with this EU be just lovely; and just think they get to form their own little army. Next time they want the yanks to save their asses, remember - their boots were made for walking all over us. Well they never got Ireland into this cess pool and give them time - won't this be lovely goose stepping throughout Europe and this is why THE POPE MUST DIE. Master Plan calls for the destruction of the Catholic Church and the murder of the Pope in the open sight of others - suddenly, sudden death like JFK and RFK wasn't it March when Reagan was shot? This is the year of tahe astrologers.but no longer are they permitted to mark our President for murder - the scientists took care of that . My God Its Alive.and to think this EU will have an army. OSaba EU imposing steel taxes of their ownOfficial: Tariffs tacked on as protection against U.S. measures BRUSSELS, March 25 The European Union is to impose tariffs of 14.9 to 26 percent on steel imports to protect itself from a possible surge of material diverted away from the United States by high new duties, an official said on Monday. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.msnbc.com/news/729151.asp?cp1=1 ---End Message---
[CTRL] Janet Reno Is Six Foot Two
In high heels that would make her big enough to play basketball. Can't you see her but which shower room would she use, the girls or the boys. For you see once off list someone sent me a letter - a person I did not even know and said check it out for yourself, that Janet Reno was really a man. I do not know. But I did not, for I had really no way - later she would be out but now she is running for what - she would make a nice warden in the pennitentiary right? Or Hangman or one who pulls the switch? So anyway, this man said she had been a man and had one of those operations - that in the year book, was it Miami - that there was only a John Reno in her class and school annual showed this to be true. Now I have seen never in my life a woman who walked with her left hand like Alley Oop..and I know I should not poke fun at herbut Jay Leno spelled it out in his own way... So Save The Children Reno, is a Lesbian but also had a sex change...now why would anyone send me a story such as this if it would not be true - but left the checking out for me to do. Does anyone really care if she is a man or a woman? No - and if you think she has a sense of humour, think again - someone is putting words in her mouth, for she is trying to kid herself out of being characterized as the Mad Butcher of Waco.remember it was she who ordered all the D Platoons, tanks and flamethrowers , FBI and BATF - down to Waco to Save the Children - yet, what if the order had been given by HIlliary Clinton as was once reported? Jeb Bush should stay out of her way for she looks like she could beat the hell out of him and that is literally, not figuratively. OSaba Hope she never runs for President .imagine Janet Reno meeting the Queen (pardon) - tell me would she bow or curtsey. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/3/28/162622 ---End Message---
[CTRL] Bojinka Back in News
Interesting item.Bojinka, means big noise like Q'Aida means the Basewhat is in a name This item re murdering the Pope I found interesting, and does anybody really believe a Muslim engineered the Murder, of the head of the ROMAN not Italian Catholic Church? Cui Bono? Like JFK the present Pope was gunned down as people cried and cheeredBUT HE DID NOT FALL in the open field which is a muststrange in Daniel you find the threat of the assassinations of the HIgh Priests (symbolizing the Pope) and the President of the United State - for thee are three presidents ans/or high priests mention in Daniel .who was it Jack Ruby after murdering Oswald to silence him over and over again said Shadrach, Meschenk, and Abenego - straight out of Daniel - leaving little clues along the way but Pope John also died that year in 1963.. Nice story but first Bojinka - big noice, is this Peter's Big Bang - was this code name Bojinka code name for murder of the Pope for you see in this 20 year cycle where the King Must Die the Pope must also die and this is what is going to happen very soon now, just as when Reagan was shot - Ronald Reagan was gunned down in March of 1981 - the Pope was gunned down, in May of 1981..for this was part of the 20 year Astrologer's Curse - right? Problem - the President did not die, nor did the Pope die for by a miracle, they lived.. The man who shot the Pope - the Pope forgave him, but do not think the Pope did not know what had happened just as Ronald Reagan knew and any other top intelligent boy knew..and the Kennedy brothers murdered in a vicious vendetta, So Bojinka - St. Peter, the Fisherman - was hanged upside down on a cross it was alleged.the Pope sits above the burial site of Saint Peter - he is surrounded by four men - the Catholic Church is set for destruction and I might add good Catholics believe their Church to be eternal and Jean Dixon, this murdering old bitch who used words to mark the Kennedys and the Pope for murder - Regardless the Feds after the pranksters in the psychic network of devlish feinds - when they marked Gerald Ford over and over again for an accident and he became so accident prone it was a standing joke on Saturday Night Live - Eric Severeid a spokesman no doubt for the CFR (Walter Lippman had already marked democrats for murder) - Severeid on his show remarked The Scientists say the Astrologers have gone too far and golly gee no astrologer from thaat time on was ever permitted to mark the President for murder, over and over and over again. So here is from whence came Peters Big Bang as it is called or this Bojinka - code name was not brought up by any Osama bin Laden - these are doomsdayers and the doomsday clock is how many minutes to midnight? Bible, King James. 2 Peter, from The holy Bible, King James version Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library | Table of Contents for this work | | All on-line databases | Etext Center Homepage | 2 Peter, chapter 3 Compare with Revised Standard Version: 2Pet.03 1: This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2: That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: 3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4: And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9: The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. **Peters Big Bang or Bojinka here (saba note) 10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11: Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13: Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein
[CTRL] Fwd: CNN.com - Man who shot pope pardoned in Italy - June 13, 2000
Interesting item - regardless this ROMAN not Italian Catholic Pope was one of the greatest Popes in the History of the Church..so sit back and watch the show now, and see if these bastards think they will destroy the Church economically, politically, and socially for you know it is the gold they are after.but now at least the Church can flush out the homosexuals who broke their vows - kind of like that crooked cop - the one rotten apple in the barrel who would destroy the rest, unless weeded out...for the enemy operates from within and without. Saba world europe myCNN | Video | Audio | Headline News Brief | Free E-mail | Feedback Search WORLD TOP STORIES Thousands dead in India; quake toll rapidly rising Israelis, Palestinians make final push before Israeli election Gates pledges $100 million for AIDS Davos protesters face tear gas (MORE) TOP STORIES Thousands dead in India; quake toll rapidly rising Israelis, Palestinians make final push before Israeli election Davos protesters face tear gas (MORE) BUSINESS Nasdaq: good day, tough quarter Andersen adopts Volcker reforms Hewlett claims HP fixed Compaq vote (MORE) MARKETS 4:30pm ET, 3/28 DJIA 23.00 10403.90 NAS 18.60 1845.35 SP 2.81 1147.39 SPORTS The coach's take on the Final Four Red Wings clinch Presidents' Trophy with 3-3 tie Garnett gets stitches, leads T'wolves past Mavs (MORE) All Scoreboards WEATHER All cities U.S. Bush: No help from Washington for California power crunch POLITICS Bush signs order opening 'faith-based' charity office for business LAW Prosecutor says witnesses saw rap star shoot gun in club TECHNOLOGY Napster to launch fee-based service ENTERTAINMENT Can the second 'Survivor' live up to the first? HEALTH Heart doctors debate ethics of testing super-aspirin TRAVEL Nurses to aid ailing airline passengers FOOD Texas cattle quarantined after violation of mad-cow feed ban ARTS STYLE Ceramist Adler adds furniture to his creations (MORE HEADLINES) MAINPAGE WORLD africa americas asia pacific europe middle east U.S. WEATHER BUSINESS SPORTS TECHNOLOGY SPACE HEALTH ENTERTAINMENT POLITICS LAW CAREER TRAVEL FOOD ARTS STYLE BOOKS NATURE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS LOCAL EDITIONS: CNN.com Europe change default edition MULTIMEDIA: video video archive audio multimedia showcase more services E-MAIL: Subscribe to one of our news e-mail lists. Enter your address: DISCUSSION: message boards chat feedback CNN WEB SITES: CNNfyi.com CNN.com Europe AsiaNow Spanish Portuguese German Italian Danish Japanese Chinese Headlines Korean Headlines TIME INC. SITES: CNN NETWORKS: CNN anchors transcripts Turner distribution SITE INFO: help contents search ad info jobs WEB SERVICES: Main | Biography | Successors | Selection Process | Photo Essay Quiz | Video Gallery | Pictorial Biography | Legacy Man who shot pope pardoned in Italy Mehmet Ali Agca shot Pope John Paul II at St. Peter's Square on May 13, 1981 June 13, 2000 Web posted at: 1:52 p.m. EDT (1752 GMT) In this story: Pope credits miraculous recovery No proof of conspiracy RELATED STORIES, SITES ROME -- Mehmet Ali Agca, the man who tried to assassinate Pope John Paul II in 1981, will be extradited to Turkey after Italy's president issued a pardon on Tuesday for the papal shooting. Agca will serve the remainder of a 10-year sentence in Turkey for the murder of newspaper editor Abdi Ipekci. He shot the pope after escaping from jail while being held on charges of murdering Ipekci and was later sentenced to death in absentia by his native country. A 1991 amnesty reduced the Turkish death sentence to 10 years in prison. VIDEO Clip of the attempted assasination of Pope John Paul II MESSAGE BOARD Tell us your views on the pardon This morning the president of the republic signed the clemency decree for Mehmet Ali Agca, and simultaneously the Justice Minister signed an extradition decree which will send him back to Turkey, a spokesman for Italian President Carlo Azeglio Ciampi said on Tuesday. The pope, who met Agca in prison, publicly forgave him three days after the May 13, 1981, shooting, which occurred as the pope rode in an open car across St. Peter's Square. Agca, now 43 years old, shot the pope point-blank and was captured immediately. Chief Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said John Paul was satisfied with Ciampi's action. As you know, John Paul II immediately pardoned his attacker and for some time now the pope had told Italian authorities that he was in favor of an act of clemency if Italian law permitted it, Navarro-Valls said. He has been insisting on this for some time. We are not surprised. We are very happy. Agca's attorneys reported that their client thanked the pope and the Vatican when told the news. This is a dream. I cannot believe it, news reports quoted the gunman as saying in comments relayed by his lawyer. Pope credits miraculous recovery Hit in the abdomen, left hand and right arm, the pontiff was critically wounded
[CTRL] Ronald Reagan - The President They Could Not Kill
Nor could they murder the Pope that year, for surely it was a bad year for the Assassins... And note, Reagan, Kennedy, McKinley all assassinated, were Irish (McKinley Scotch Irish)..Ambrose Bierce it is said was run out of the country (on his own) for a curious little quantrain he wrote for Hearst, his boss - Goebbels was Govenor of Kentucky as I recall he had been assassinated (not just wounded) - but newspapers some have a tendency don't they of putshing some and certain people to their graves so who controls the news media? By Ambrose Bierce The bullet that pierced Goebells breast, Cannot be found in all the west Good reason it is speeding here - To place McKinley, on the Bier. And within a matter of days, McKinley way lying on the bier having been assassinated - Bierce took off to Mexico. Don't know much about McKinley but that he was Irish and marked for murder by someone's front man. You see some of this is Premeditated Murder by Prophecy - one ha a pen, and the other a gun so Bierce and Dixon scored in combination 3 hits, by prophecy aided by the assassins and both no doubt infiltrated many different orders. Both were paid much for their gainsaying for their masters. Might add Bierce and Hearst were all Rosicrucians - The Pope and Reagan - survivied. in 1981 The Pope and JFK - died in 1963 Strange the desire to kill the ones with the most charisma, but no other way to beaat them - right OSaba RONALD REAGAN by Peggy Noonan: In a president, character is everything. A president doesn't have to be brilliant; Harry Truman wasn't brilliant, and he helped save Western Europe from Stalin. He doesn't have to be clever; you can hire clever. White Houses are always full of quick-witted people with ready advice on how to flip a senator or implement a strategy. You can hire pragmatic, and you can buy and bring in policy wonks. But you can't buy courage and decency, you can't rent a strong moral sense. A president must bring those things with him. If he does, they will give meaning and animation to the great practical requirement of the presidency: He must know why he's there and what he wants to do. He has to have thought it through. He needs to have, in that much maligned word, but a good one nontheless, a vision of the future he wishes to create. This is a function of thinking, of the mind, the brain. But a vision is worth little if a president doesn't have the character--the courage and heart--to see it through (Reagan) had the vision. Did he have the courage without which it would be nothing but a poignant dream? Yes. At the core of Reagan's character was courage, a courage that was, simply, natural to him, a courage that was ultimately contagious. When people say President Reagan brought back our spirit and our sense of optimism, I think what they are saying in part is, the whole country caught his courage. There are many policy examples, but I believe when people think of his courage, they think first of what happened that day in March 1981 when he was shot. He tried to walk into the hospital himself but his knees buckled and he had to be helped. They put him on a gurney, and soon he started the one-liners. Quoting Churchill, he reminded everyone that there's nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without effect. To Mrs. Reagan, it was, Honey, I forgot to duck. To the doctors, I just hope you're Republicans. To which one doctor replied, Today Mr. President we're all Republicans. Maybe he caught Reagan's courage too. But Reagan the political figure had a form of courage that I think is the hardest and most demanding kind. A general will tell you that anyone can be brave for five minutes; the adrenaline pumps, you do things of which you wouldn't have thought yourself capable. But Reagan had that harder and more exhausting courage, the courage to swim against the tide. And we all forget it now because he changed the tide. Looking back, we forget that the political mood of today, in which he might find himself quite comfortable, is quite different from the political mood the day he walked into politics. But he had no choice, he couldn't not swim against the tide. In the fifties and sixties all of his thoughts and observations led him to believe that Americans were slowly but surely losing their freedoms. When he got to Hollywood as a young man in his twenties, he shared and was impressed by the general thinking of the good and sophisticated people of New York and Hollywood with regard to politics. He was a liberal Democrat, as his father was, and he felt a great attachment to the party. He was proud that his father had refused to take him and his brother Moon to the movie, Birth of a Nation, with its racial stereotypes. And he bragged that his father, Jack, a salesman, had, back long ago when Reagan was a kid, once spent the night in his car rather than sleep in a hotel that wouldn't take Jews. Ronald Reagan as a young man was a Roosevelt supporter, he
Re: [CTRL] Israel's Gene Pool and the Nation of 1,000,000 Atheists
-Caveat Lector- Such a thing Dr. Poley as killing softly with lovelike say I am sick of all the love in the world on one hand, while a gun is in the other The lover who comes as a thief in the night - the soft spoken Jeffrey Dahmers in the night, or the Mr. Wonder, the Ghoul of Georgia Crematorium and family of ghoulssuch lovely people, so at this point in life I believe in some cases it is shoot first, ask questions later - and let the dead bury the dead for that is for what this guy in Georgia was waiting. As they say, some put manure on their strawberries, Dr. Poley - but I prefer cream on mine. How you doing Fang Wanghope all is well - and I know you are great in analyzing what is between the ears of man. IN SOME cases you find nothing.in this recent case - believe you made right diagnosis. Now back to the drawing board. Call me when the war begins - probably be on CNN as usual only looks like two way war this time. No fun pulling wings off butterflies living in refugee camps. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: NEWS.scotsman.com - International - Palestinians fear backlash as Israel rejects Saudi peace plan
Did anyone really believe Ariel Scheinman aka Sharon would accept any peace plan when it was he who started this war and his reign of terror has killed how many innocents and butchered children? Nice story here (take from Euphorian's E Mail)..and I wonder - ever have a feeling the Arab Nations, these Great Arab Nations are playing cat and mouse with this little fly speck on the map for surely, one bit swat and Israel would not longer be on the map. That Sharon is pulling the Tiger and Lion's tail and is about to feel the whiplash? Strange isn't it that Sharon is still alive? Who really trains these suicide bombers or are they just turned loose from the Israel nut house where these terrorists are often held? Are they drugged and programmed there? OSaba SectionsFront PageMain HeadlinesLatest NewsScotlandUKInternationalPoliticsSci-TechHealthEducationEntertainmentGaelicFeaturesOpinionHot TopicsArticle IndexOther SitesBusinessSportPrint EditionsThe ScotsmanScotland on SundayEvening NewsBack Issues ServicesFree News EmailFree WebfeedsSyndication Fri 29 Mar 2002 Ariel Sharon: the Israeli Prime Minister has rejected the Saudi peace initiative. printer friendly email article Palestinians fear backlash as Israel rejects Saudi peace plan Ben Lynfield in Jerusalem AN unprecedented Arab peace offer was overshadowed yesterday by one of the most lethal attacks against Israelis since the start of the Palestinian-Israeli war of attrition. Plans for a major Israeli army offensive showed signs of being moved up in response to the killing by a Palestinian suicide bomber of 20 people and the wounding of 140 on Wednesday night at a Passover banquet in the city of Netanya. Tanks were being brought on carriers to positions near West Bank population centres hours after Israeli forces sliced the Gaza Strip into three sections and barred transit between them. In the northern West Bank, a Palestinian gunman infiltrated the Elon Moreh settlement and killed three people. He was reportedly still boarded up in a house late last night. With a sense that an Israeli offensive was imminent, the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat, said last night he was ready to declare an unconditional ceasefire. He said the Palestinians had informed the US special envoy, Anthony Zinni, that we are ready to immediately begin implementation of the Tenet work plan. Tenet is a US ceasefire blueprint to which Israel has been seeking modifications during recent negotiations. The peace plan issued by the Arab League summit in Beirut was dismissed by Israel as less than overwhelming on the grounds that it fell short of full peace and warm relations and demanded territorial concessions that were too far-reaching to be considered. The basic position unites the lowest common denominator for Arabs but does not offer anything hopeful to Israel, said Dore Gold, an adviser to Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon. Supporters of the plan, however, say it signifies the widest Arab backing for peace with and recognition of Israel. As the Palestinian Authority evacuated offices and installations in Ramallah in anticipation of an Israeli onslaught, Mr Sharon convened cabinet ministers for a discussion of army plans for wide action, according to media reports. Officials were quoted by Israeli media as saying that the government would now disregard any inhibitions on military action it had observed out of deference to the ceasefire efforts of Mr Zinni and that the operation would be wide, deep and would go on for a long time. However, Ephraim Inbar, a leading analyst, said: I do not think we will see a decisive blow. Even the Americans allowed several months in Afghanistan. The accumulation of rage in Israel demands that the government act but the American factor remains unchanged. He was referring to a perceived American interest in not having the Israeli-Palestinian conflict disrupt preparations for attacking Iraq. Mr Inbar added that he was not certain that Mr Sharon's Labour party coalition partner would support a large-scale operation. The terrorist attack in Netanya, carried out by Abdel-Basat Odeh, a militant from Hamas, the Islamic resistance movement, has outraged the entire country and is referred to in the media and government as the Passover massacre. Ninety eight people were still in hospital yesterday, 16 of them in a serious condition. Palestinian police say Odeh knew the territory since he had worked as a waiter in Netanya hotels. The images on Israeli television screens last night were of bloodstained skullcaps, screaming ambulances and stunned survivors rather than of Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia outlining the Arab world's conditions for peace. The often stormy two-day summit in Beirut endorsed a Saudi plan offering Israel peace and normal ties if it returned all occupied Arab lands and agreed to live alongside a Palestinian state. The plan insisted that Israel also agree to a just solution to the Palestinian refugee
[CTRL] Here We Are UN Murder Inc. and Uganda included
What was that old song Drinking Rum and Coca Cola working for the Yankee Dollah... So here we have it, organized crime, about to reorganize crime. This article is almost laughable..wonder can we get Meyer Lansky and these Mafia Dons or whatever they call them on any Geneva Conference Violations - War Criminals, fighting over all that good stuff the kind of stuff that makes a man like Marc Rich, Meyer Lansky, Bronfman, and Larry Flynt billion and millionaires? Nice story here...and to think I have their bible. Wish I understood all this stuff but I am just an average housewife, so to put who spends a lot of time in her kitchen.where did I go wrong..I could have gone into the coca busines. For better reading pull up under subject matter OSaba Strawberry Blonde with Gray Eyes And Three SilverGolden Blonde Haired, blue eyed children - one with Gray eyes which we do not talk about.No Purple. 8. (a) Convention for Limiting the Manufacture and Regulating the Distribution of Narcotic Drugs Geneva, July 13th, 19311 IN FORCE since July 9th, 1933 (Article 30). Ratifications or definitive accessions Ratifications or definitive accessions Afghanistan (June 21st, 1935 a) Albania (October 9th, 1937 a) United States of America (April 28th, 1932) 1. The Government of the United States of America reserves the right to impose, for purpose of internal control and control of import into, and export from, territory under its jurisdiction, of opium, coca leaves, all of their derivatives and similar substances produced by synthetic process, measures stricter than the provisions of the Convention. 2. The Government of the United States of America reserves the right to impose, for purposes of controlling transit through its territories of raw opium, coca leaves, all of their derivatives and similar substances produced by synthetic process, measures by which the production of an import permit issued by the country of destination may be made a condition precedent to the granting of permission for transit through its territory. 3. The Government of the United States of America finds it impracticable to undertake to send statistics of import and export to the Permanent Central Opium Board short of 60 days after the close of the three-months period to which such statistics refer. 4. The Government of the United States of America finds it impracticable to undertake to state separately amounts of drugs purchased or imported for Government purposes. 5. Plenipotentiaries of the United States of America formally declare that the signing of the Convention for limiting the Manufacture and regulating the Distribution of Narcotic Drugs by them on the part of the United States of America on this date is not to be construed to mean that the Government of the United States of America recognises a régime or entity which signs or accedes to the Convention as the Government of a country when that régime or entity is not recognised by the Government of the United States of America as the Government of that country. 6. The plenipotentiaries of the United States of America further declare that the participation of the United States of America in the Convention for limiting the Manufacture and regulating the Distribution of Narcotic Drugs, signed on this date, does not involve any contractual obligation on the part of the United States of America to a country represented by a régime or entity which the Government of the United States of America does not recognise as the government of that country until such country has a government recognised by the Government of the United States of America. Saudi Arabia (August 15th, 1936) Argentina (April 18th, 1946) Austria (July 3rd, 1934) Belgium (April 10th, 1933) This ratification does not include the Belgian Congo, nor the Territory of Ruanda-Urundi under Belgian mandate. Belgian Congo and Mandated Territory of Ruanda-Urundi (December 17th, 1941 a) Brazil (April 5th, 1933) Great Britain and Northern Ireland2 (April 1st, 1933) His majesty does not assume any obligation in respect of any of his Colonies, Protectorates and Overseas Territories or territories under suzerainty or under mandate exercised by his Government in the United Kingdom. British Honduras, British Solomon Islands Protectorate, Ceylon, Cyprus, Falkland Islands and Dependencies, Gambia (Colony and Protectorate), Gilbraltar, Gold Coast [(a) Colony, (b) Ashanti, (c) Northern Territories, (d) Togoland under British Mandate], Hong-Kong, Kenya (Colony and Protectorate), Leeward Islands (Antigua, Dominica, Montserrat, St. Christopher and Nevis, Virgin Islands), Mauritius, Nigeria [(a) Colony, (b) Protectorate, (c) Cameroons under British Mandate], North Borneo (State of), Northern Rhodesia, Nyasaland Protectorate, Sarawak, Seychelles, Sierra Leone (Colony and Protectorate), Somaliland Protectorate, Straits Settlements, Tanganyika Territory, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Uganda Protectorate, Zanzibar
[CTRL] Fwd: U.S. keeps distance in Mideast mess
What? Nobody believes that We Come In Peace crap anymore? So here we have a man who won a Nobel Peace Award sitting all alone by his telephone - don''t work, for another curse has befallen this great Palestinian Leader - the curse of darkness, they turned of fhis electricty.they turned off his water..he sits there, all alone by a dead telephonewith a big gun before him just waiting for the bastardsOh to Go a Great Martyera Nobel Peace Award Winner a Victim of the Zionist Pigs. What a way to go out - for it is live in fame or go down in flames and let the Zionists get the blames? Oh Well Such Is Life Today in Paradise.but for a Nobel Peace Award winner to be martyered - murdered in cold blood by cold blooded assassins - this poor wretch of a man, who only has one suit. And he not doubt got that at a factory outlet. So goodbye Arafat - wherever you are...Praise Allah - Praise the Lord, but pass that ammunition, brother. OSaba Imagine murdering a Nobel Peace Award Winner you know that bum Clinton wanted one all along, and had he not let his Zionist flunkees bomb the hell out of Serbia, and tossed that pig out of his office who brought him a pizza loaded with Ecstacy - who knows - he could say to Arafat and Sharon, the Head Pig - I Come In Peace U.S. U.S. keeps distance in Mideast messPowell repeats stock condemnation of Palestinian actionsBy Alan Sipress THE WASHINGTON POST WASHINGTON, March 30 The Bush administration, confronted with a dramatic eruption of Middle East violence and the collapse of peace efforts, maintained a wary distance yesterday and repeated its long-standing reproach of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. 'We have spoken out clearly and do so again now, for Chairman Arafat to act, act against those responsible for these acts ...' COLIN L. POWELL secretary of state EVEN AS ISRAELI SOLDIERS besieged Arafat inside his West Bank compound, raising the prospect he might be killed, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell focused on recent Palestinian attacks against Israelis, condemning them in language that has become the stock of U.S. diplomacy. We have spoken out clearly and do so again now, for Chairman Arafat to act, act against those responsible for these acts and to make clear to the Palestinian people that terror and violence must halt now. All those who support peace must reinforce this message, Powell said at a hastily arranged news conference. Except for Powell's carefully scripted remarks, President Bush's national security team was silent. Officials said U.S. special envoy Anthony C. Zinni would remain in the Middle East, but they offered no goals beyond seeing if he could win Israeli and Palestinian adherence to a cease-fire plan that has met with no success since it was proposed last June by CIA Director George J. Tenet. The administration's determination to stay the course comes in the face of open warfare between Israelis and Palestinians, heralded by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's declaration he considers Arafat the enemy. This new belligerence and the staggering series of suicide bombings that rocked Israel this week have sabotaged what some officials believe could be Zinni's last shot at a truce and dash the hope created by the Arab League's endorsement this week of a rare Saudi peace proposal. GREEN LIGHT? In response, Bush and his senior advisers dispatched Powell to deliver a message that many observers, including Israelis and Palestinians, saw as a green light for Sharon. Though an accomplished public speaker, Powell conspicuously read from a prepared text, his eyes returning to the page every few words. Some U.S. officials said the statement did not fully reflect his own concerns about Israel's armed raid on Arafat's Ramallah headquarters. In Ramallah, a methodical exercise of military might Assault spurs criticism of Israeli tactics The essence had been worked out in discussions President Bush had with his senior national security team and largely reflected the thinking of Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, sources familiar with the deliberations said. A senior administration official said Cheney's staff had been especially influential in shaping the message. Cheney and Rumsfeld have long cautioned against heightening American involvement in trying to resolve the Middle East conflict, especially if it means crossing Sharon. In his statement to reporters and a subsequent telephone conversation with Arafat, Powell called on the Palestinian leader, pinned down in his headquarters, to move more vigorously against terrorists. And Powell signaled he was still looking for Palestinian security forces, engaged in defending the Ramallah headquarters against the Israeli strike, to cooperate with their adversaries in enforcing a U.S.-brokered truce. WHAT ABOUT CIVILIANS? 'Chairman Arafat is the
[CTRL] RIP and May Allah Bless Thee Arafat Who Won Nobel Peace Award
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 1994, in alphabetical order, to Yasir Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin, for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East. But then look what happened to Rabin - now who murdered Rabin a man of peace who had the Song of Peace in his pocket when he died. nice story here re the award of the Nobel Peace Prize which Arafat shared with RABINremember Rabin? Gunned down by whom? Hey, not Palestinians for many trusted Rabin. So the evil Sharon awaited the demise of Rabin - and do not think this does not hook up to Twin Towers demise. No Rabin was done in by another fanatical jew.Now Arafat and hey - Perez is on that list too and better watch out for this beast Netanyahu is in the running for his son by the way was in on the Hell No We Won't Go to war for Israel, they want the Americans to come over and stand as a buffer zone between the usual suspects for Saturday Night entrtainment on CNN or MSNBC. So Rabin, Arafat, and Perez - and then maybe there were none? So hope Arafat goes out in a blaze of Glory - this man who won a Nobel Peace award while the Butcher of Sabra and of tahe Palestinians and of his own, will take a bow on stage and walk over the dead bodies buried in the Holy land. Did you ever notice Ariel Sharon - the name Ariel and Sharon, is out of Isaiah in the bible.and Ehud Barak, both names here too out of the Judgesmy god, do we have to go through Jeremiah too yet and then Daniel where the President like JFK - and maybe another martyered Pope.oh well, time will tell and there goes another gypsy Moses tromping through the wilderness OSaba THE NORWEGIAN NOBEL COMMITTEE The Nobel Peace Prize for 1994 The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 1994, in alphabetical order, to Yasir Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin, for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East. For several decades, the conflict between Israel and its neighbour states, and between Israelis and Palestinians, has been among the most irreconcilable and menacing in international politics. The parties have caused each other great suffering. By concluding the Oslo Accords, and subsequently following them up, Arafat, Peres and Rabin have made substantial contributions to a historic process through which peace and cooperation can replace war and hate. In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel wrote that the Peace Prize could be awarded to the person who, in the preceding year, shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations. The award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 1994 to Arafat, Peres and Rabin is intended by the Norwegian Nobel Committee to honour a political act which called for great courage on both sides, and which has opened up opportunities for a new development towards fraternity in the Middle East. It is the Committee's hope that the award will serve as an encouragement to all the Israelis and Palestinians who are endeavouring to establish lasting peace in the region. 1993 1995 The Nobel Peace Prize 1994 Press Release Yasser Arafat Biography Shimon Peres Biography Yitzhak Rabin Biography Last modified March 1, 2001 Copyright© 2002 The Nobel Foundation Contact Nobel e-Museum» The Official Web Site of The Nobel Foundation ---BeginMessage--- http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1994/press.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: RESURRECTION
So Larry Silverstein the man who was bankrupt in 1991 and now will receive 7 billion dollars in insurance monies, plus the 124 million or so he received for building 7 where all that fuel oil was stored - 6,000 gallons contrary to law - and some of the men who no doubt died in the Twin Towers had said this is a no no, not legal to put such a hazard in such a zone.but look at Silverstein, who again is just a front man for the biggest gypsies and thieves in the universebut then Rabin, did he pay with his life and this Netanyahu - but worse of all see the Ariel Scheinman Sharon connection for you see now the plan is to also get Negevwhere Silverstein wanted to put this Free Trade Zoneand then, the Minister of Tourism was murdered who took on Sharon - for you see some of these people did not like this Larry Silverstein. So on with the show.as if the demise of the twin towers, was not enough..and here is a little blurp from the bible calendar that day 911? Isaiah, chapter 9 19: Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother. The word fuel is mentioned 5 times in the bible..in Ezekial 3 times Isaiah 2. Now, on with the story re Silverstein and his henchmen and Sharon and Free Trade Zone - laundering site for crooked drug monies... And remember All the World is a Stage and here are some of the bad actors, so on with the show OSaba RESURRECTION David Yerushalmi The thirteenth of the 13 Principles of Faith articulated for Jewry in the 11th century by Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon (Maimonides) testifies to the absolute belief in the Resurrection of the Dead, an event to take place in some as yet unknown future. Without intending any blasphemous comparison, it is this article of faith and the indefatigable and enduring spirit of the policy proposal for a Free Processing Zone in Israel that give rise to yet another article of faith, but this one intended for all of those dedicated to public policy and reform: A policy proposal intended to fundamentally reform a political economy mired in socialist and statist institutions will survive many fatal assaults, and indeed be resurrected, if it is well grounded in factual research, truth, and freedom. To gain some perspective and to place this article of faith in its proper context, consider the following review. In June of 1992, a group of leading U.S. Jewish businessmen formed a company that was to become the Israel Export Development Company (IEDC). The founders of IEDC, men like Robert Tishman, Larry Tisch, Sy Syms and Larry Silverstein, were ardent supporters of the State of Israel. But like many Americans, they were leery of investing directly in Israel. However, it was their fears that made them ready to support the rather grandiose proposal embodied in IEDC's mandate. For all of these men, Israel represented a place to donate millions by way of their favorite charity, be it the United Jewish Appeal or Israel Bonds. To contemplate a real direct investment in Israel was not in the cards. The reason was simple: Israel didn't play by any fixed rules. When it came to allowing the private sector to do what it does best, Israel was not the place to be. It was a land without any real legal protections or level playing fields. The horror stories by these men and their friends about doing business in Israel were legion. Until IEDC came along, this was a nasty truth better kept under wraps and avoided. Philanthropy - yes; entrepreneurship - no. IEDC sought to change this reality through a straight forward policy initiative proposed by IASPS designed to create a free?market business environment liberated from the infamous Israeli bureaucrats and anchored in LAW. Such it was when IEDC shareholders first met with then?Finance Minister Avraham (Beiga) Shohat in September 1992 in New York and made their best pitch, a collective personal guarantee: Enact the Free Processing Zones (FPZ) Law as we have proposed and rest assured that we will spearhead $250 million of direct investment just in the development of the first high?tech, infopark free zone in Israel. The companies that would be attracted to the zone would invest hundreds of millions of dollars more and employ at least 20,000 workers. Beiga Shohat was impressed. Unfortunately, then?Finance Minister Shohat lacked any useful knowledge of economics, business, and free markets. What impressed Shohat was the idea that the world's leading Jewish businessmen had come together in one room and promised a huge investment without asking for anything in return no grants, no loans, no handouts whatsoever just an FPZ Law that guaranteed them a truly free zone that still respected Israel's health, safety, and environmental laws. Indeed, the FPZ Law would still allow the Israeli government to collect a 15 percent
[CTRL] Fwd: CNN.com - Pope urges Arafat to end violence - August 2, 2001
See the date - see the truth? Arafat was begging for International Monitors to come to his aid and the aid of his people. His please were ignored. One month later, plus a few days, the Twin Towers fell - demolition squads and Osama bin Laden was blamedreally? Typical in this country now, to have the news media controlled by Zionists villify a person before a trial.but oh a lid is put on the crematory down there in Georgia, right? The crematory that collected bodies some of which were not to be cremated - the news media protects this evil family as it does Sharon. Nice story here...see UN went to Iraq but UN would not go to Israel and supervise? Arafat was ignored as his people were being butchered and I say this - the Arab Nations are beginning to speak out, they are getting their own newspapers.and the truth is simply this - we now get two sides to a story. Ariel Sharon - Ehud Barak - by their fruits we have known them and as Arafat will give his life for the Palestinians should we wonder if Sharon would do the same ??? Now who really controls these terrorists? So this story shows Arafat begging for International Monitoring. OSaba The Vatican wants an international status protecting Jerusalem as a sacred city for the world's three great monotheistic religions. Israel, which considers Jerusalem its united and eternal capital, rejects this. Pope urges end to violence August 2, 2001 Posted: 10:35 AM EDT (1435 GMT) Pope, a strong supporter of Palestinian rights, held his 10th meeting with Arafat VATICAN CITY -- Pope John Paul II has told Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat that the Middle East crisis had reached a point of unheard of violence. During a 25-minute meeting, the pontiff said both Arabs and Israelis had to break the cycle of attacks and reprisals. The pope and Arafat, who is on a 24-hour visit to Rome, held talks at the Pontiff's summer residence at Castelgandolfo, southeast of Rome. A Vatican statement said the pope felt the Middle East was mired in unheard of violence which continues to mow down victims, above all among the civilian and unarmed population. The statement added: His Holiness...firmly repeated that there is an absolute need to put an end to all types of violence, be they attacks or reprisals, and to get the much hoped for negotiations on the table. The visit has taken on added urgency with the killing of eight Palestinians, including two children, by Israel on Tuesday in a missile strike which it said was made in self defence. IN-DEPTH Mideast Struggle for Peace The statement made no reference to Papal support for international monitors for the PPalestinianterritories, which Arafat had called for on his arrival in Rome. Arafat and his delegation arrived at the pontiff's summer retreat at noon. It was his 10th meeting over the years with John Paul, who has been a strong supporter of Palestinian rights. Earlier he met new Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi, whose office gave no immediate details of the talks. As the two leaders met, about 50 people staged a demonstration outside the premier's office, demanding that the Palestinian Authority stop executions of alleged Israeli informers. The Palestinian leader arrived in Rome on Wednesday, as tens of thousands of Palestinians gathered in the West Bank for the funerals of eight Palestinians killed on Tuesday in an Israeli helicopter raid on a Hamas office in Nablus. In comments at the start of his visit, Arafat said the deaths underscored the need for international observers to be sent to the region quickly -- something Israel has always refused. He warned that the violence in the Middle East could spiral out of control and have repercussions beyond the region if an international force is not deployed. Their presence is very important, and they should be deployed quickly -- and in the largest numbers possible, he said. Both Italy and the Vatican have long expressed support for the rights of the Palestinians -- and both have called for an end to 10 months of violence. The pontiff, who made a historic visit to Israel and the Palestinian territories last year, supports the creation of a Palestinian homeland but also says Israel has a right to exist within secure borders. The Vatican wants an international status protecting Jerusalem as a sacred city for the world's three great monotheistic religions. Israel, which considers Jerusalem its united and eternal capital, rejects this. RELATED STORIES: Israel vows to maintain 'active self-defense' policy August 2, 2001 Palestinian mourners cry revenge August 1, 2001 Pope home after pilgrimage May 9, 2001 Pope leaves Mideast peace message May 8, 2001 Pope pleads for Muslim, Christian forgiveness May 6, 2001 RELATED SITES: The Vatican Palestinian National Authority Note: Pages will open in a new browser window External sites are not endorsed by CNN Interactive. WORLD TOP STORIES: U.N. demands Israeli
[CTRL] Nobel Peace Award Winner Arafat's Guards Murdered
So today is Easter Sunday - the The Slauhtermen Cometh.. Well what else would one expect on Easter day - all safe houses no doubt marked with the blood of the lambs. A Nobel Peace Award winner is in isolation, he security executed and they aim for the head - and these Israelis remember have been training you local police in D Platoon Tactics to save the children no doubt OSaba Firing heard at Arafat compoundPalestinian officials say they're in office; Israeli army denies itBREAKING NEWS NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES March 31 Palestinian officials said Sunday that Israeli forces were storming Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's besieged office building and that there had been exchanges of gunfire between soldiers and Palestinian security guards. The Israeli army denied troops were inside the three-story building, but an Associated Press reporter speaking by phone to Palestinians inside Arafat's office could hear the sounds of heavy gunfire. Palestinian officials said Israeli troops took over Arafat's personal quarters on the second floor. 'Our decision not to harm Arafat still stands. ... We don't want to turn it into a world war, into a regional war. We don't want to turn the entire world against us.' ISRAELI FOREIGN MINISTER SHIMON PERES speaking on Israel Radio as the fighting was reported in Arafat's office PALESTINIAN OFFICIALS said Israeli troops took over Arafat's personal quarters on the second floor. The Israeli military denied that Palestinian forces entered Arafat's office on Sunday. Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, speaking on Israel Radio as the fighting was reported in Arafat's office, said: Our decision not to harm Arafat still stands. There's no change. We don't want to turn it into a world war, into a regional war. We don't want to turn the entire world against us. Arafat's compound has been under Israeli control since Friday, with the exception of the office building where Arafat and his aides have been holed up. They started entering Arafat's offices and now they are exchanging fire with the president's bodyguards. There are very serious clashes and the president's guards are fighting against the invaders. There are several wounded, Palestinian Information Minister Yasser Abed Rabbo said. Abed Rabbo was not inside the compound in the West Bank city of Ramallah, however. SUICIDE ATTACK On Saturday, about 30 people were injured, including five critically, in the latest suicide attack on Israel, this time aimed at the My Coffee Shop Cafe on a popular Tel Aviv thoroughfare. The suicide bomber was killed. The bombing was claimed by the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade, a militia that has been linked to Arafat's Fatah movement. The attacker was identified as a man from the West Bank city of Nablus. The explosion went off sometime after 9 p.m. (1 p.m. ET) at the cafe on Allenby Street. I passed by there. I heard a loud explosion. I was so scared. I never saw something like this in my life, one witness, who was not further identified, told Channel Two. MSNBC's Ashleigh Banfield reported from the scene that the cafe is popular with soccer fans, who congregate to watch games on television. By luck, Saturday's game wasn't too exciting and the cafe was less crowded than usual, Banfield reported. Most of the wounded were staff and passers-by. Advertisement 'EXPECTING MANY MORE' Police Commissioner Shlomo Aharonishki said he did not expect a letup in Palestinian attacks. We are expecting many more bomb attacks, and we are spreading our forces as widely as possible, he said on Israel TV. David Baker, an official in Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office, said Israel would take all steps necessary, using all means possible, to stop the Palestinian attacks. This included rounding up hundreds of Palestinian men for questioning. The Israeli military sealed off Ramallah, barring journalists from entering. Journalists who were in Ramallah before the Israeli operation began have been able to work in the city. Palestinian witnesses said Israeli forces moving through the streets of Ramallah with loudspeakers demanded that all males between the ages of 14 and 40 come out of their homes and report to a school. More than 500 Palestinian men assembled in the yard, were blindfolded and had their hands tied behind their backs. Some were being put on a truck and driven away. The army chased away journalists who arrived at the scene. The bombing is a continuation of the campaign of murder against Israelis everywhere, Baker said. It was the third Palestinian suicide attack this week. On Wednesday evening, a suicide bomber blew himself up in a hotel in the coastal resort of Netanya, killing 22 diners attending a Passover Seder, the ritual meal ushering in the Jewish holiday. On Friday, a bomber blew herself up at the entrance of a Jerusalem supermarket,
Re: [CTRL] Baxter's family wants suicide note kpet private
-Caveat Lector- This note is not intended for public consuption for entertainment. If the case goes to Court then the note could be made available in any Court of Law. Meanwhile trying cases in the news media is a favorite passtime. We once had a guy here make 60 Minutes the same day I did - he though was on trial as a serial rapist. Now there was a psychiatric report leaked to the press and they got caught, for a stupid assistant prosecutor trying to make brownie points with a reporter, removed the staples from his report, and made a copy. Now when it hit the fat and the newspaper had the report, the Prosecutor was the first to demand the 5 copies that had gone out and it turned out is own man, was the one with two stapler marksboom, he was sacked. This report was not drawn up for the entertainment of the public, and it was private -until it came into the Court Room where it was then made public legally. It is obvious what the motive was with this man - one day a bit timer and the next day torn apart in the press prior to a trial. to tell the truth when I saw this one woman on TV who claimed she lost a million dollars, only had $20,000 left - she had nothing to begin with - what upset her was she could not unload her stock and pass it on to some unsuspecting person. Enron - it was like a run on a bank Until that note is introduced in court with good cause it is just nobody's business. There is enough domestic sabotage and olitical espionage going on in this country and I say this - suicide notes are written in despair and the letter was personl, not sent in the USA Mail system - it was a personal note, and was part of official police investigation - OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] The Anti-Semitism of Aum Shinrikyo
Interesting item - drew my attention as of late the Feds are disposing of sarin gas in Arkansas, along with mustard gas, etc. But it seems this AUM group was only a threat at it became more powerful - for these were Doomsdayers...who believed in a Jewish Masonic Royal Conspiracy.further the authors of this item believes poor Israel is he scapegoat for the USA? OSaba ---BeginMessage--- http://www.ict.org.il/articles/aum_antisemitism.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == ctrl is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, ctrl gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. ctrl gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. There are two list running, ctrl@yahoogroups and [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctrl@yahoogroups has unlimited posting and is more for discussion. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is more for informational exchange and has limited posting abilities. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Om Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Baxter's family wants suicide note kpet private
-Caveat Lector- Well you want the tape write Morley Sater for I did not tape it..some 13 million or so people saw it and a good number called me.it was done in fun, but was dead serious too. I took a day off work the next day because my phone did not stop ringing and everybody was talking about my spot to the exclusion of the serial rapist.. Would have been 1983 maybe September, do not remember Anyway Morley Sater had some fun. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Holocaust - Reports Of Israelis Slaughtering Palestinian Men
-Caveat Lector- Now what are they celebrating in the passover - the murder of the first born? The blood of the lamb was put on doors of those where the killers would not attack - like Rahab with the red cord.the spies and the angels of death. Herod and the slaughter of the innocents? Gypsy Jews and the Tarot Cards..for more typical slaughter see murder of JFK and RFK and toss in little John John for this kid would have been the next President and the timetable would have been tossed out of the window. This is ritual murder - Jewish Slaughtermenlike Jack the Ripper timed to a calendar of events. Slaughter of the lambs, right? That is the passover..and like thieves in the nights in the Exodus they stole from their masters, the first born were all killed - and they ran for many many years. Now they bring this shit to America the scapegoat. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Buffer Zone?
-Caveat Lector- At last we see the hand of an architect and or developer on this one for to build and wall and a trench would put Israel under siege? OSaba February 22, 2002 DIPLOMACY U.S. Is Talking Up Plan From Saudis on Mideast By TODD S. PURDUM Join a Moderated Discussion on the Middle East (Saba Note: Here would be a good list for Kris.wouldn't he have fun??? - Sensible Discussion Jews vs Muslims discussion on Middle East) WASHINGTON, Feb. 21 Having failed to press Yasir Arafat into stopping the worst violence in the Middle East in 16 months of guerrilla war, the Bush administration sees a sliver of light in a peace plan sketched by the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, senior administration officials said today. United States officials said that President Bush, under prodding from European allies to restart peace efforts, would discuss the latest ideas of Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud, the de facto Saudi ruler, with President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt when he comes to Washington at the end of next week. The officials said they were particularly intrigued by Crown Prince Abdullah's explicit offer of full normalization of relations with Israel in exchange for its withdrawal from the territories claimed after the 1967 war. Also encouraging, they said, is the fact that other Arab states, including Egypt, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, have reacted favorably to the Saudi overture. In a sign of how seriously the Bush administration takes the Saudi suggestion, William J. Burns, the assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, is to discuss it here on Friday with Adel A. al-Jubeir, a confidant of the crown prince and effectively the Saudi national security adviser, the officials said. But the officials also acknowledged that they were at a loss for other new ideas, and repeated that it was still up to Mr. Arafat to crack down on Palestinian attacks. The State Department's director of policy planning, Richard N. Haass, is in the region reviewing policy options, and met with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel today, though he had no plans to see Mr. Arafat and is not conducting peace talks, officials said. Thomas L. Friedman, a columnist for The New York Times, reported last Sunday that Crown Prince Abdullah had said in an interview that his country would be prepared to establish full diplomatic relations, normalize trade and guarantee Israel's security if the Israelis agreed to withdraw fully from the territories occupied at the end of the June 1967 war. The crown prince's proposal is similar to one put forward in 1981 by King Fahd, when he was crown prince, though at that time the Saudis did not explicitly pledge to recognize Israel. Crown Prince Abdullah has been Saudi Arabia's de facto leader since King Fahd, his brother, suffered a stroke in the mid-1990's. In an Op-Ed essay published in The Times today, Henry Siegman, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said senior Saudi officials had assured him that the crown prince was willing to show even more flexibility on two issues of longstanding concern to Israel, the status of Jerusalem, including Israeli sovereignty over the Western Wall, and the occupied West Bank. American and Saudi officials said that Mr. Siegman's account accurately reflected the crown prince's views, though they added that details of any final settlement would be up to the Palestinians. Still, one American official said: The Western Wall reference is pretty dramatic. We went from 0 to 60, and not only was it done by an Arab state, it was done by the most conservative of Arab states and by the one guy from whom, when it is said, there is no possibility of taking it back. The State Department spokesman, Richard A. Boucher, said: These are significant positive steps and have been endorsed publicly by other governments in the region, including Egypt. They highlight the importance of not giving up on the goal of a just and lasting peace, and the need to do all we can to help end the Israel- Palestinian conflict. But some other experts on the region expressed less optimism. Though intriguing and significant, a Saudi statement promising `full normalization´ in exchange for the demands laid out by Abdullah is almost surely not relevant in today´s geopolitical context, Robert Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, writes in a paper issued by the institute. Regrettably, it is at least 19 months too late, and probably six to seven years past the time when it could have made a difference in the peace diplomacy. Nonetheless, Mr. Satloff said he hoped that the crown prince would actually deliver his remarks, which he told Mr. Friedman were contained in a draft of a speech for an Arab summit meeting next month. The proposal, Mr. Satloff added, would be sure to spark even further inter-Arab debate over whether and how to make peace with Israel. Speaking to reporters at the State Department
[CTRL] Fwd: The United States Marine Memorial (Iwo Jima)
This memorial was dedicated to the US Marines - so many died there on foreign soil. OSaba ---BeginMessage--- http://iwo-jima-memorial.visit-washington-dc.com/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: All The Boys At Iwo Jima
This is nice story but you see too this beautiful memorial seemed to symbolize only the men raising the flag - for the name of each was known.This story is a good one, but marred for some reason. Shows part close up of the plaque. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.homestead.com/deewebs/iwojima.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Pakistan vows to catch Pearls killers
The Pakistan police unknown to the FBI and CIA had this one man who used name Rubaiya at one time, from February 5 to February 12. This explains the fact that this guy stressed a couple of times he had turned himself in on February 5. This Special Service Police element - this gave them time to maybe kill Danny Pearl for he knew who led him to this trap. No way he could ever have been returned, alive. For the police were involved in this - as they say in Hebrews where there is a testament, there must by necessity be the death of the testators. We don't know the real names of any of these peoples; but we know for sure they are not freedom fighters but vicious killers - maybe Danny Pearl WAS getting too close to a truth and had to be silenced - the lamb to slaughter. Only a cop could have led him to his death - caught in the trap. Psalms, psalm 44 22: Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter. Paki Pakistan vows to catch Pearl's killers Video shows Wall Street Journal reporter being killed by kidnappersA video provided to Pakistani authorities offers graphic evidence of the death of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. NBC's Dawna Friesen reports from Karachi. NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES Feb. 22 - Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf pledged Friday to apprehend each and every one of the gang of terrorists involved in the kidnap and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. U.S. officials have confirmed to NBC News that a video shows Pearl, who was seized in southern Pakistan a month ago, being killed by his Islamic extremist captors. In Beijing, President Bush called Pearl's murder a criminal, barbaric act and said the killing would only deepen the resolve of the United States of America. Feb. 22 - NBC News analyst Steve Emerson discusses the possible reactions of the United States to the killing of journalist Daniel Pearl. THE STATE DEPARTMENT confirmed Pearl's death, saying the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan received evidence of the murder on Thursday. Sources close to the investigation who had seen the tape said it showed Pearl dead, his throat cut. The announcements crushed the hopes of Pearl's colleagues and his pregnant wife, who had pleaded for the reporter's safe return ever since he was abducted in the Pakistani port city of Karachi on Jan. 23. The Journal said its staff was heartbroken, and Pearl's parents and two sisters said they were shocked and saddened by the news. Up until a few hours ago, we were confident that Danny would return safely, for we believe that no human being could be capable of harming such a gentle soul, his family said in a statement from their home in the Encino section of Los Angeles. Pearl's wife, Mariane, was told of his death in Karachi, where she had been staying while awaiting word on her husband's fate, said Steve Goldstein, a vice president of Dow Jones Co., the owner of the Journal. Advertisement In the weeks since her husband's capture, Mariane Pearl, a freelance journalist, had pleaded for his freedom and offered herself in his place. She is now seven months pregnant with the couple's first child. Newsweek: Remembering Daniel Pearl In Beijing, a grim-faced President Bush said, All Americans are sad and angry to learn of the murder. Those who would threaten Americans, those who would engage in criminal, barbaric acts need to know that these crimes only hurt their cause and only deepen the resolve of the United States of America to rid the world of these agents of terror, Bush said. May God bless Daniel Pearl, he said. MUSHARRAF ORDERS CRACKDOWN Bush spoke with Musharraf early Friday as the U.S. president returned home from a five-day trip to Asia, Secretary of State Colin Powell said. President Musharraf took it pretty badly because he was doing everything to stop the kidnappers from killing Pearl, Powell said aboard Air Force One. LATEST DEVELOPMENTS THE WAR * Missing reporter dead, U.S. officials confirm * 10 U.S. soldiers feared dead in Philippines * U.S. tries to avert new Afghan fighting * Complete coverage THE HOME FRONT * Last WTC burn victim goes home * Florida anthrax survivor back at work * Complete coverage Musharraf moved swiftly after hearing of Pearl's death, offering condolences and ordering an immediate roundup of all suspects possibly linked to the kidnapping and murder. Musharraf expressed his profound grief over the killing and ordered security forces to apprehend each and every member of the gang of terrorists involved in this gruesome murder. Four people have been arrested and charged in the case, and Pakistani authorities had been maintaining for weeks that they were close to solving it. A statement released by Musharraf's office said the president would stay the course to ensure that his country and indeed this world is free of
[CTRL] Fwd: No survivors found in chopper crash
The same day, there was a report on MSNBC giving the EXACT location of these heliocopters.at the time I thought why not just get a road map with little red arrows leading to them. So this happens - is it normal procedure to put out precise locations of troops now, where they will be running tests, etc. For they made these men sitting ducks. This heliocopter it was reported exploded in the sky. Have you noted all these reports of downed planes - are they defective or like Vietnam when UFOs would be reported in Georgia and Alabama - and our pilots returning with munitions - the vietkong would infiltrate the bases and gun them down when they landed..remember the old song Stars Fell Over Alabama? Red Stone Arsenal land. Should the news media report stuff like this - it is though they are waiting then for something to happen, and it did. OSaba No s No survivors found in chopper crash 10 U.S. soldiers were helping Philippines battle extremists The U.S. Army helicopter that crashed Friday is similar to this one, seen in a file photo. MSNBC NEWS SERVICES APO ISLAND, Philippines, Feb. 22 Searchers have found no survivors and the 10 U.S. soldiers aboard an Army helicopter that crashed in Philippine waters are feared dead, officials said Friday. Three bodies have been recovered. The troops were participating in anti-terrorism exercises with Philippine peers. U.S.-Philippine relations THE MH-47E Chinook helicopter appeared to be burning when it went down, witnesses said, but U.S. and Philippine officials say it was not hit by rebel fire. We have found no survivors from the mishap aircraft, said Brig. Gen. Donald Wurster, head of the U.S. contingent. We, of course, hope they are alive, and we are doing everything with our Philippine friends to find them. Eight crew and two paramedics were on board the helicopter. Their names were not released pending the search and notification of relatives. Philippine officials had earlier said at least two people were found alive, while a television station said three were plucked out of the sea by fishermen. U.S. authorities in Washington originally said 12 people were on board the helicopter, but a spokeswoman at the U.S. Embassy in Manila, Karen Kelley, said later the number was 10. 'EVERYTHING LOOKED NORMAL' The cause of the crash was unknown. Philippine military spokesman Lt. Col. Danilo Servando ruled out hostile fire. Advertisement Col. Alexander Aleo, commander of the Philippine military's 103rd Brigade headquarters on Basilan, said everything looked normal as the choppers dropped off the last of 160 U.S. special forces and supplies that have been arriving over the last two weeks to help the Philippine military. Police said there was light rain and poor visibility at the time, but the chopper is equipped with advanced radar and other navigation gear. There was no indication of anything amiss before this thing happened, Wurster said. Some debris and an oil slick were spotted five nautical miles from tiny Apo island in the Bohol Sea in the southern Philippines. Coast Guard Lt. Armand Balilo said one of the helicopter's rotors had been found. Officials said the turquoise water was believed to be more than 1,400 feet deep. As U.S. Navy SEAL divers searched the site, police combed the shore for debris. FIRE BEFORE CRASH? Fishing boat skippers Ricardo Zamora and Joel Lasola said they were about seven miles away when the helicopter went down. At the time of the incident, they saw a big fire that fell into the sea, and as the fire touched the water, there was an explosion, said a police report based on their account. Rodrigo Alanano, mayor of Dauin town on nearby Negros, said he talked with other fishermen who were about one or two miles from the crash site. They saw a helicopter in flames in the air, then it exploded as it fell into the sea, he said. They thought it was a meteorite. EXERCISES CONTINUE Click for a slideshow on the terror threat in the southern Philippines. Officials said the crash would not affect the joint exercise, which involves about 660 Americans including 160 special forces and targets the Muslim extremist Abu Sayyaf group. The rebels are holding a Kansas missionary couple and Filipino nurse hostage on southern Basilan island. Rigoberto Tiglao, spokesman for President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, said she expressed sympathy to the Americans' families. This just goes to show that this support of the United States is not just any support, Tiglao said. They're risking the lives of their own soldiers, too. Officials said the helicopter had finished three night flights between Zamboanga, home to the Philippine military's Southern Command, and nearby Basilan, an Abu Sayyaf stronghold. U.S. special forces moved into the southern Philippines last month for
Re: [CTRL] General Responses
-Caveat Lector- Well June there you go again - speak for yourself, June, and not for me will you? I know the difference between art and pornography and if you had an original thought from time to time, you would find that this statute to which you refer, and to which Mr. Bates refers, has stoon on the same site for approximately 30 years. It was the press, the news media, who planned the picture - it was the news media who saw evil in this statute, and not Ashcroft. And I am surprised at you June - your lack of knowledge when it comes to true art forms - you did not even know the masterpiece memorial to our men in Iwo Jima, was a dedication to the United States Marines in memory of all all the men who died in this bitter battle. I imagine someday the news medial will put on a drive to have this art form removed as being too barbarian. Further June, as a former art studen and my sister was a professional artist who made thousands selling her work just by paiting a few pictures and having a garage sell, she could make an extra thousand a month, tax clear fun money. She studied Art under true professioinals and was a friend to Emerson Burkhart (and I have two of his painting worth now $30,000 each according to latest price in library) - we my sister and I both, knew the difference between art and garbage. The art display in the library June - can only be compared to the intent of the newsman who portrayed Ashcroft with the statue for a joke - it was funny, the laugh is over. Art is art and garbage is garbage. We all have our personal preferences - you seem to lean toward the pornographic while I prefer true art, and the true tests of an artist is, can he paint or sculp life forms, or like what we have outside our Columbus Museum now thanks to the Lazaras family - big heaps of metal some of which looks like dung hills which you would enjoy June for beauty they say is in the eye of the beholder. So you take Larry Flynt and shove him up your nose - I know art from garbage. OSaba Try studying Hogarth June - again the test of an artist is can he draw, paint, or produce a masterpiece such as the statute of Iwo Jima - you know June - the famous oh so famous statue of men in the US Marines dedicated to the US Marines one of the bloodiest battles in the war? June I believe you would delight in the works, of Jack the Ripper ... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Joyous celebrations in Afghanistan
---BeginMessage--- It would seem it was made to appear the Afghanistanis were celebrating the death - the ritual death - of Danny Pearl? These are crazed programmed killers and it takes real pros to turn out murderers such as this. But then I remember Johnny Rosselli - cut down to size to fit in an oil drum for he was about to testify at a hearing with regard to assassinationssystematially all witnesses are killed if they have testimony that could be used in court. So Danny Pearl knew who led him into the trap but all has been timed, hasn't it to this joyous celebration..like an allegory, abstract - but this is so obvious that the death of Danny Pearl and the video tapes - this has all been timed for a date certain. Hope they keep a good watch on the Liberty Bell - Kuwait War - Proclaim Liberty Throughout the Land. (Feb. 26 - 28) Also This Is the Queen's Jubilee - and in 1888 When Jack the Ripper, the Slaughterman roamed the streets, it was also a Jubilee Year - the ripper too used this very strange bible calendar. Leviticus, chapter 25 10: And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family. The Proclaim Liberty Throughout All the Land is Liberty Bell Inscription. And ye shall return everyman unto his familyand ye shall return every man unto his possession. OSaba Joyous celebrations in Afghanistan Fireworks, nail polish, even egg fighting return for big holiday Afghan Muslims are commemorating Abraham's attempted sacrifice of his son, Ismail. Here children swing in a makeshift ferris wheel Friday during Eid al-Adha celebrations in Kandahar. ASSOCIATED PRESS KANDAHAR, Afghanistan, Feb. 22 In the rubble and mud of Kandahar, in the weary heart of a battered land, a laughing 10-year-old held up her hands Friday to show what the Eid al-Adha holiday means in the new Afghanistan: Nail polish! (And Today the Video Tape Was sent of Danny Pearl being murdered in ritual slaughter - slaughter of the Lamb - saba note) Afghanistan's tumultuous history TO THE WHISTLE and pop of fireworks, to the beat of a once-outlawed band, the people of this most traditional of Afghan cities, old bastion of the stern Taliban, could again celebrate a joyous Muslim holiday in the most joyous ways they could. Even egg fighting was back in the streets. In a way, the children were first to see the change from the Taliban days. This Eid is better than last year, said a boy named Essa Jan. Today we're celebrating freedom. We can watch TV and VCR. We can listen to CDs. The 12-year-old, shod in shiny new metal-studded sandals for the holiday, talked to an American visitor on the fringe of a congregation gathered for morning prayers beneath the soaring sky-blue dome of the city's Eid Mosque. Kandahar Gov. Gul Agha told the mosque crowd of several thousand that on this Eid he was praying for a stable, independent, free country, a strong Afghanistan. An Afghan land mine victim prays in a mosque in Kabul Friday. Agha is the representative of the two-month-old Afghan government that emerged from the lightning U.S.-led war against the Taliban, protectors of the al-Qaida network blamed for the Sept. 11 terror attacks on the United States. The Taliban's defeat ended a five-year rule in which the Islamic fundamentalists outlawed music, movies, girls' education and women's few opportunities outside the home, among other activities deemed un-Islamic. The war, particularly the American bombing campaign, also contributed to the accumulation of pulverized mud brick and stone rubble in this ancient crossroads city of several hundred thousand people that was the base of the Taliban and the home of their leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar. Advertisement CHUNKS OF MUTTON Under the Taliban, our major entertainment was playing cards quietly, secretly in the house, said Mirwais Fazly, 26, a shopkeeper who with his brothers' families and parents invited three American visitors to their home for a midday holiday meal of mutton. The lunch began with the ritual slaughter of a sheep in the family courtyard, and the burning away of its coat with a propane blowtorch. It's easier that way, it was explained. Steaming chunks of mutton eventually took center stage on a tablecloth laden with rice, fruit, yogurt and pickled vegetables. The scene would be repeated in hundreds of thousands of Afghan homes over the three-day holiday, which commemorates Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son at God's command. In Kandahar's streets, meanwhile, holiday scenes unfolded that would have brought the Taliban's religious police swooping down in years past. Extras to help you understand this complex story: In-depth features Multimedia Interactive library
[CTRL] Fwd: Georgia: Bill to replace electric chair with guillotine
Lovely story forwarded to me by a friend. What kind of people do they have down there in Georgia? 300 dead bodies lying around in fields piled up, while the caretaker of this establishment was to cremate the dead, and took money for its services - a Company of Undertakers profitted for doing nothing, but let the trash man pick up hundreds of bodies, many not yet discovered - and nobody notices. Like this bill, the return of the guillotine. Well at least it is the first I have ever read of it. So baby body parts for sale anybody and then beheading would be an acceptable form of execution, be it ordered by law or by say a political execution as we have witnessed, re Danny Pearl but his execution was set to silence his voice. This is the most disgusting story I have read to date - the man who suggested this should have been drummed out of the legislature - the guy who played garbage man with all those bodies, might be a good execution for it is said they have found bodies with heads detached from torsos - speak of clan of necromancy, who knows what went on in particular, the casket in his back yard with the body still in itimagine he was also in used casket business or did some of the undertakers double their profits? So read on - then think of Danny Pearl. His captors had a gun - but the execution by beheading came right out of the bible - people get sicker and sicker and sicker. This bill did not pass, but like these idiots who want to take away the guns from Americans while providing same to their executioners and criminals - better think twice and remember the French Revolution for if this is where America is headed, I will join the revolutionaries. OSaba Georgia: Bill to replace electri Georgia: Bill to replace electric chair with guillotine And I saw thrones, and they that sat on them. And judgment was given to them, and to the souls of the ones having been beheaded because of the witness of Jesus, and because of the Word of God, and who had not worshipped the beast nor its image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. Rev. 20:4 Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state's electric chair with the guillotine. Teper's reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as organ donors, he says, since the Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact. In 1995, a move to replace the electric chair with lethal injection (poisoning) failed in Georgia's assembly because legislators feared that prisoners could argue for a new sentencing hearing if the state changed the law. (Saba Note: I see Sherman and his henchman must have settled in Georgia.today if Georgia burned, nobody would care) The Guillotine, invented by the French Dr. Guillotine, was mainly used in the 18th and 19th century and chops off a person's head. It hasn't been used for decades in any country on this planet. [March 5, 1996; based upon news report] Watcher comments: There is a group of lawmakers out there who think chopping people's heads off is a good idea. Criminals are a good first step in acclimating the public to the spectacle of death by beheading. The practical application of organ donation is a good excuse to implement guillotine production. By the time the antichrist takes control, there should be some very skilled guillotine craftsman out there, and the infrastructure for transporting such apparatus will be fully in place. Isn't that convenient? Read the Chilling Proposition from Teper et. HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions SECTION 1. 1- 8 The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to 1- 9 death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for 1-10 transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that 1-11 electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for 1-12 transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting 1-13 this legislation is to provide for a method of execution 1-14 which is compatible with the donation of organs by a 1-15 condemned prisoner. SECTION 2. 1-16 Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official Code of 1-17 Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty generally, 1-18 is amended by striking in its entirety Code Section 1-19 17-10-38, relating to death sentences generally, and 1-20 inserting in lieu thereof the following: 1-21 17-10-38. (Index) 1-22 (a) All persons who have been convicted of a capital 1-23 offense and have had imposed upon them a sentence of death 1-24 shall, at the election of the condemned, suffer such 1-25 punishment either by electrocution or by guillotine. If 1-26 the condemned fails to make an election by the thirtieth 1-27 day preceding the date scheduled for execution, punishment 1-28 shall be by electrocution. 1-29 (b) In all cases in which the defendant is sentenced to be 1-30 electrocuted executed, it shall be the duty
[CTRL] NYPOST.COM National News: SOCIALITE SOUGHT PARDON FOR EX By TODD VENEZIA
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[CTRL] Fwd: King of Hit and Run Capitalism Wants Free Reign Over Unplundered Global Resources
Read about Marc Rich's friend George Soros, who during WWII pretended to be a Nazi and took property away from Jews. See the thieves in action - and Marc Rich was pardoned. Be very easy to hook them up to the demise of ENRON and further, note the telehone company pay phones, 411, etc., now based in Israel and Ehud Barak operating in Texas as front man for what? Imagine it will be snowing in Texas before you know it, as if it is not already deluged in snow bird transits. OSaba SPOTLIGHT EMAIL MAILING LIST FREE SAMPLE NEWSPAPERS! (Click Here) The Selling of Free Trade Your Miracle Brain Spotlight Archives (Previous Stories Posted Online) King of 'Hit and Run' Capitalism Wants Free Reign Over Unplundered Global Resources Defended by libertarians as a great free market capitalist, the multi-billionaire George Soros is accused by his victims of being the father of rape-and-pillage speculation. Exclusive to The SPOTLIGHT By Christopher Bollyn Soros said in a radio interview that his father gave him Nazi credentials and, pretending to be Janos [or Sandor] Kis, the godson of a Hungarian government official whose job it was to deliver deportation notices to Jews and take possession of their property, he helped loot wealthy Jewish estates. In speech before the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), George Soros delivered a globalist call for a society based on international law and international institutions and praised the World Trade Organization for opening global markets and easing the free movement of capital, which has weakened nation-states. Soros was in Chicago to promote his book, Open Society: Reforming Global Capitalism. However, the 500 people who paid to hear the guru of hedge funds and buy his book hoping to glean some wisdom will be disappointed because who George Soros really isand how he operatesare closely guarded secrets. The devolution in the power of the state is a good thing, Soros told the Chicago CFR on Nov. 20. Lauded as one of the most successful investment managers in history and the first American to earn more than $1 billion in one year, Soros, a Bilderberger, has admitted having some rather potent messianic fantasies and at times thinking that he is God. Considered a philanthropist by some and the front man for the Rothschild banking group by others, Soros said, the private sector is not a philanthropic system, hinting that the aid given by his Open Society Institute (OSI) to the nations of eastern Europe is not motivated solely by altruism. The OSI insinuated itself, and the Soros agenda, into academia, media and government in the newly liberated republics of the Soviet Union in 1993. It has since expanded and opened offices around the world, including several in the United States. He's the only man in the U.S. who has his own foreign policyand he can implement it, Morton Abramovitz, former American ambassador to Turkey, told The New Yorker in 1995. Initially Soros had difficulty deciding what causes to support, because he does not consider himself American, Jewish, or Hungarian. (Saba Note - I consider him to be a Nazi like Marc Rich) Soros decided the one thing he did care about was Karl Popper's open society, a universalistic concept that transcends national, racial and religious identities. By financing the American Committee to Save Bosnia, and other groups, Soros was a key figure in the propaganda campaign calling for U.S. bombing of Serbia and Kosovo. Today Soros is involved in the restructuring of the Balkans and has established himself as the official banker and chief investor in the region using U.S. taxpayer money. Soros signed a deal with an agency of the U.S. government, in July, to manage a $150 million fund to develop private ventures in the Balkan states of the former Yugoslavia (except Serbia), as well as Albania, Bulgaria, Romania and Turkey. Soros invested $50 million in the Southeast Europe Equity Fund, while the U.S. Overseas Private Investment Corporationa U.S. federal agencyprovided $100 million in loan guarantees, all of which he controls. DUAL PERSONALITY George Soros was born on Aug. 12, 1930, to Tivadar Soros and Elizabeth Szucs, upper-middle class Jews living in Budapest, Hungary. (In other words Soros was a Nazi and worked with Hitler but money answers all - saba note) Soros survived in Nazi Hungary during the war by adopting what he calls a double personality. Soros said in a radio interview that his father gave him Nazi credentials and, pretending to be Janos [or Sandor] Kis, the godson of a Hungarian government official whose job it was to deliver deportation notices to Jews and take possession of their property, he helped loot wealthy Jewish estates. In many ways it was the happiest year of my life, he told Michael Lewis of The New Republic, It was dangerous and exciting. It made me a bit of a risk-taker. Soros said that the skills he learned at 14 later helped him as an investor
[CTRL] Pakistan hunts for Pearls killers
The police in Pakistan how can anybody trust them. Now the hunters become the hunted but this bunch is using masonic rituals..what kind of people commit such murders - this is Mafia stuff and they use the bible calendar as a communication. Remember John Walker (Lindh) - and the videon tape? His elbows tied behind his back and someone taking the video - two men, one named David - CIA, and someone says David, you are our enemy and the CIA agent is killled, the other guy causing the problem escapesfor it was said he was doiong the talking. Word David is Red Flag. Who set Danny Pearl up and sent him off like a Uriah to be killed? This Reid thing was not part of his Wall Street Journal assignment, and no Al Qaeda is going to give information to the Wall Street Journal and the killers knew Danny was an Israli. This thing like Littleton, with the cameras rolling.and this stupid John Walker with honey French accent - they will sell the death of Dannyl Pearl but that is Hollywood - only this tape will be real. The curtain opens. 2 Samuel, chapter 11 13: And when David had called him, he did eat and drink before him; and he made him drunk: and at even he went out to lie on his bed with the servants of his lord, but went not down to his house. 14: And it came to pass in the morning, that David wrote a letter to Joab, and sent it by the hand of Uriah. 15: And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die. 16: And it came to pass, when Joab observed the city, that he assigned Uriah unto a place where he knew that valiant men were. 17: And the men of the city went out, and fought with Joab: and there fell some of the people of the servants of David; and Uriah the Hittite died also. 18: Then Joab sent and told David all the things concerning the war; 19: And charged the messenger, saying, When thou hast made an end of telling the matters of the war unto the king, 20: And if so be that the king's wrath arise, and he say unto thee, Wherefore approached ye so nigh unto the city when ye did fight? knew ye not that they would shoot from the wall? 21: Who smote Abimelech the son of Jerubbesheth? did not a woman cast a piece of a millstone upon him from the wall, that he died in Thebez? why went ye nigh the wall? then say thou, Thy servant Uriah the Hittite is dead also. 22: So the messenger went, and came and shewed David all that Joab had sent him for. 23: And the messenger said unto David, Surely the men prevailed against us, and came out unto us into the field, and we were upon them even unto the entering of the gate. 24: And the shooters shot from off the wall upon thy servants; and some of the king's servants be dead, and thy servant Uriah the Hittite is dead also. 25: Then David said unto the messenger, Thus shalt thou say unto Joab, Let not this thing displease thee, for the sword devoureth one as well as another: make thy battle more strong against the city, and overthrow it: and encourage thou him. 26: And when the wife of Uriah heard that Uriah her husband was dead, she mourned for her husband. 27: And when the mourning was past, David sent and fetched her to his house, and she became his wife, and bare him a son. But the thing that David had done displeased the LORD. Well that's Hollywood - those kids at Littleton hoped a movie would be made of their Judgment Daywho prepared Danny Pearl for the Kill using the Greatest Story Every Told? Think of Uriah as a Reporter..sent to the front, for the Wall Street Journal wanted to send this man Afghanistan and he refor he said he had a wn to be bay, at home assignment was too dangerous. Why am I thinking of Oswaldwhen asked what is in the package Lee - he said Curtain Rods...the rod that killed JFK and it was curtains - the final curtain. OSaba Pakistan hunts for Pearl's killers Three Arab national sought in caseFeb. 23 Investigators now believe the murder of Daniel Pearl could be part of a larger terrorist plot against Americans abroad. NBC's Norah O'Donnell reports NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES Feb. 24 Police are searching for three Arab nationals believed to have played a role in the kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, a senior investigator said, suggesting there may be a link between the kidnappers and Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network. Feb. 22 NBC News analyst Steve Emerson discusses the possible reactions of the United States to the killing of journalist Daniel Pearl. NO DETAILS were immediately available Sunday on the Arabs' identity or how they might have participated in the crime. Four Pakistani suspects currently being sought in the case had strong links to the ousted Taliban regime in neighboring Afghanistan and possibly the al-Qaida network as well, investigators said. On Saturday, Pakistani officials said a videotape of the
Re: [CTRL] Rendering Unto Caesar Some Greens
-Caveat Lector- think churches should not be taxed with one exception. When they engage in political activity, they are no longer a church established for spiritual needs, Harry Anslingner once wrote and as for the Mafia, pull up one string of spagetti (hey, how is that for discrimination, Italian Spaagetti) - however, when you pull up one string of spagetti, up comes the whole plateso Anslinger also noted that so many famous Mafiaso - even Chuckie Colson - when they got out of prison, got into religion. Herein lay the secrets of the Mafia. The ones who are so generous with their gifts - easy to buy friendship and police and politicians so when should a mobster lose his tax free status? Like a Marc Rich, or this ADL who was in cahoots with Meyer Lansky and to which a guy like Larry Flynt donates so generously? Religion makes a good laundering house now, just as does our Senate and Congress for what an investment we have here - Then we have those Undertakers A Church was designed for gatherings of the people, who when one was in need, others would provide assistance..a place of refuge. Then came James Cagney, the old movies, always gunned down in front of a church while the Priest his old friend, comes to his need.Why not, the guy paid for windows, organs, etc eetc etc. So the big connection is when is a church not a church and not a place of refuge - well remember what Christ did - he kicked the money changers out of the Temple. Like Castro kicked the Mob, out of Cuba. Somehwere there is a message here? Pat Robertson is the Golden Calf? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dedicated to the ADL and Larry Flynt Who Too Saw the Light
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