[CTRL] Help Us EXPOSE Dan Rather's Bias to America! (fwd)

2004-09-16 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Please find below an important message from RightMarch.com, the conservative Web site 
leading the charge for Patriotism in Action. They have some important information to 
share with you regarding the outright liberal bias by Dan Rather and CBS News. Please 
join them in taking action!

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Help Us EXPOSE Dan Rather's Bias to America!

Dear Conservative Friend,

Last week, we told our members how Dan Rather and CBS News have been caught red-handed 
in their blatant bias against President Bush, by airing a story based on forged 
documents. We set up our site so Americans could contact CBS and demand accountability 
from the media -- and over EIGHTY THOUSAND emails were sent to CBS President Les 
Moonves and CBS News itself!

WAY TO GO!

NOW is the time to turn up the heat. You're on the cutting edge, because you bypass 
the liberal mainstream media to get the REAL news. But what about the rest of America 
-- Joe and Jane Sixpack living in the heartland, using the 'net only for e-mail, 
where all they know is what they see on the news and read in the paper?

Don't THEY deserve to know the truth about Dan Rather and CBS News? And don't THEY 
deserve the chance to take action, demanding to know the TRUTH about the bias of Dan 
Rather, and the lies of CBS News?

NOW they can have that chance!

Just like we've done several times before, we're planning to take out *another* 
FULL-PAGE ad in USA Today, NATIONWIDE -- telling the whole country about Dan Rather's 
liberal, anti-Bush bias, and telling them to DEMAND that CBS News come clean and FIRE 
him!

But to get that ad published nationwide, we need YOUR help now:

Go Here Now: http://cl.extm.us/?fe891d777367007475-fe3711707667007d731671

As you know, Dan Rather and CBS News used documents (now proven to be forgeries) 
during a Sept. 8 60 Minutes II segment in an incompetent attempt to smear President 
George W. Bush's National Guard service. Clearly phony, these new documents were 
easily debunked overnight by solid evidence from forensic document experts, 
typographers and retired military officers. One expert counts at least 50 points that 
suggest the documents are forgeries.

For America's sake, such lopsided, incompetent, unprofessional, anything-goes 
reporting must be stopped! Americans nationwide need to demand accountability from 
CBS and other networks.

The full-page ads will direct right-thinking Americans to RightMarch.com, where we've 
made it easy for them to tell CBS to shelve its one-sided alibis! There, they will 
contact CBS CEO Leslie Moonves to:

* Demand the network make full on-air disclosure of all facts, sources and experts to 
accurately report both sides of the story;

* Order CBS producer Mary Mapes, who allegedly obtained the documents, to tell the 
truth and reveal their source instead of refusing to comment;

* Challenge the network to admit the documents are forged;

* Demand CBS air a FULL retraction and apology;

* And call for anchor Dan Rather to be FIRED if his bias against President Bush led to 
the hasty airing of the story based on forged documents.

We need your help to get this full-page ad out NOW. After blaring huge headlines last 
week, much of the liberal press went silent Monday as evidence mounted. Don't let the 
network wiggle off the hook! Help make these ads possible:

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Obviously CBS News did not check the facts, and America has to ask... WHY? Was it due 
to Rather's readily apparent anti-Bush bias that he pushed to air the groundless 
smear? Was the intent to counter President Bush's jump in the polls? And why won't the 
network not take an even-handed, in-depth look at the mounting evidence of fraud?

Glaring omissions marred Rather's weak attempt at a rebuttal last Friday, including 
a pre-show warning by the son of Lt. Colonel Jerry Killian, President Bush's superior 
officer at the Texas Air Guard, that the documents might be forgeries. CBS News failed 
to mention that warning during the segment or in subsequent updates.

To smear the President, Rather is backing a 

[CTRL] Help Spread the Truth about Kerry (fwd)

2004-08-18 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Subject: Help Spread the Truth about Kerry

The mainstream media pay so much attention to Kerry playing the guitar; they never 
listen to the words he sings.

Dear Fellow Conservative,

It is unfortunate -- but not surprising given their extreme bias -- how poorly the 
mainstream media coverage of John Kerry has reported his ultra liberal career.  If you 
were to watch the news and read most papers, you would think Kerry is just another 
garden variety moderate Democrat. This couldn't be farther from the truth.

That's why it is up to all red-blooded conservatives to do whatever they can to make 
sure more of their fellow Americans know the facts about John Kerry.

For months we, at HUMAN EVENTS have run articles exposing Kerry's radical record.  But 
it is not enough.  We need to reach far beyond our faithful readers to ensure that 
more Americans know the truth about John Kerry.

And that is where you come in.

We need your help to create a report we will call The Truth About Kerry. This report 
will clearly and conveniently document the Massachusetts Senator's startling liberal 
voting record in the Senate, and his leftist positions and outrageous flip-flopping 
public statements on all the leading issues.  For example, did you know:

* Kerry called Moztada al-Sadr, the terrorist leader of the recent uprisings in Iraq, 
a legitimate voice.

* In 1971 John Kerry told the Senate that the U.S. murdered 200,000 people a year in 
Vietnam and claimed that the U.S. was the worst violator of the Geneva Convention.

* Kerry consistently voted against weapon system after weapon system.  The very same 
systems that have protected our troops and helped us achieve vital military victories 
in recent years.

* Kerry has missed more than 80% of the Senate votes over the last year.  Even his 
governor has called for his resignation.

* He is ranked the fourth worst tax-and-spender in the Senate, and he has (with his 
buddy Sen. Ted Kennedy) brought his home-state, Massachusetts, more than $120 million 
of pork-barrel spending in the last year alone.

* He considers fighting terrorism a law enforcement matter -- not a war. (So did 
Clinton, and look what happened.)

Moreover, The Truth About Kerry will thoroughly document his chronic, flip-flopping 
tendencies.  For instance:

* He voted for the war in Iraq, but speaks vociferously against it now -- although he 
wants to send more troops.

* He supported the Defense of Marriage Act, but was one of the few who voted against 
it.

* He voted for the Patriot Act but now opposes it.

* He voted to remove the Marriage Penalty Tax, but now wants to reinstate it.

* Then there's this classic from his own mouth: I actually did vote for the $87 
billion [for our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq] before I voted against it

You can just imagine what his definition of is is.

Of course, The Truth About Kerry will also detail his ultra-liberal stances on 
abortion, gay-marriage, gun control, government and more.

Together we can make a real difference and be certain more hard-working Americans know 
about the real John Kerry.  If only 1,512 of our readers contribute $45 each we would 
be able to reach our modest goal of raising $68,000 to cover production and 
distribution costs. Of course, if you are fortunate enough and can send more (perhaps 
much more), your gift, will be greatly appreciated.  Help counter the liberal bias in 
favor of Kerry, send as much as you can afford, now. Click here:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/leadership.php

I thank you in advance for contributing to this special appeal at this critical time 
for the conservative movement.

Sincerely,


Tom Winter
President and Editor in Chief
Human Events

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2004-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
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-- Dr. Robert Bowman
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[CTRL] Help - Being Bounced Off The List

2003-01-15 Thread BillK
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I've been removed from the list twice. The message 
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I don't believe that I'm not getting mail from 
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Has anyone else had this experience? Cox says there 
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Appreciate it!!

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[CTRL] Help Wanted: GloboCop

2002-08-09 Thread iNFoWaRZ

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Help Wanted: GloboCop

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-Visit exotic foreign lands
-Meet new and interesting people, kick their doors in, confiscate their guns, and kill 
them!
-Jackboots, Black ski-mask, HK Assault rifle, and plastic Badge included.
-Degenerate Control Freaks need only to apply. Job satisfaction guaranteed!
-Must be able to kill, rape, maim, destroy, and lick the boots of your globalist 
masters.


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[CTRL] help...

2002-01-25 Thread DIG mike hagan
i recently changed email addresses and would like to receive the digest version of the list as opposed to single emails...

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[CTRL] Help discover the truth.

2001-09-16 Thread Nurev Ind.

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9/16/01

These two URLs have been pulled.
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If so please sent them to us by reply
AND POST THEM.

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3—US Officials were warned of a possible terrorist attack at US airports a
month before Sept 11
  http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/attack-airport-security.

4--the FBI received French intelligence reports that at least one of bin
Laden’s men was operating in the US a month before the attack
 http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/wtc_terrorsuspects_010911

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[CTRL] Help Give Defenders of Scouting Equal TV Time! (fwd)

2001-06-20 Thread Yardbird


The Scouting Legal Defense Fund
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Action Alert!

We need your help to get equal time on public television for the defenders of Scouting 
to tell the Scouts’ side of the controversy over prohibiting openly homosexual men 
from serving as scoutmasters. 

Last night, June 19, Public Television aired a program, “Scouts Honor,” about this 
controversy.  This program was largely created by a group of homosexual activists.  
Not surprisingly, it was clearly sympathetic to their cause and hostile to the 
position of the Scouts.  There appears to be no plan by PBS to air a pro-Scout program 
to balance this one, certainly not in the near future. 

This program was largely funded by a group called the Independent Television Service 
(ITVS), an organization that actually is largely taxpayer funded.  The taxpayers also 
largely support PBS.  

We think this taxpayer support means that both organizations have an obligation to 
fund and to air a program that gives those of us who defend the Scouts an equal 
opportunity to present our side.   

If you agree, please take a few minutes to do two things. 

First, visit our Website, http://www.defendscouting.com , and send an email to both 
PBS and ITVS telling them that as a taxpayer you want them to give the defenders of 
Scouting equal support and air time. We have a prepared e-mail message you can quickly 
and easily send to each of them.  

Second, please forward this e-mail on to others whom you think would support the 
Scouts in this way.   Again, we provide an easy way on our Web site to send them a 
short prepared message asking them to help.

While it is only fair that both sides of this issue should be given equal taxpayer 
funded time and resources, the liberal nature of both of these organizations means 
that this will not happen unless they hear from thousands of taxpayers like you who 
support Scouting. 

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[CTRL] help

2001-06-15 Thread Adam Kowalczyk
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tried unsubbing for the duration of my vacation but of course msn's tag at the end of my email creates a text that is unreadable by l-soft...gotta love microsoft...can someone manually do that for me?
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[CTRL] HELP WITH CHINESE ELECTRICITY ?

2001-05-22 Thread Tony Dickinson

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This claim is not necessarily inconsistent. I am sure that it would
heve been conditional, and would guess that suitable bugs and other
'plant' tracers to have been installed 'in the national interest',
opportunistically here ?

TD

 nuclear power plant near Shanghai despite US law that specifically bans the
 financing of loans to Marxist-Leninist countries, including the People's
 Republic of China (PRC) unless the loans are considered to be in the national
 interest.

 President Clinton obligingly declared the loans to be in the US national
 interest .

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[CTRL] Help Friends of Cannabis in Iceland Legalize!

2001-04-22 Thread tribalzidane

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The first internet-vote, ever, on the question of legalization of
cannabis use in prohibiton-ridden Iceland, is running at:

http://www.strik.is/frettir/pressan/

You find the voting box at the right of the side, with the word kannabis
in the text, J = Yes, nei = no. The prohibitionists are over for the
moment (about 42% Yes and 58% no)

Please help our friends of cannabis in Iceland! :-)

We really shouldn't think of ourselves as interfering in the politics of
other countries.  If they want globalization, let's give it to them.
Besides, with more countries softening the laws or legalizing marijuana,
more pressure will be put on the USA to change its ways.

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Re: [CTRL] [HELP!! Ashcroft-The Artful Dodger

2001-02-01 Thread Marilyn Wright

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My strategic thinking is not always so hot. So I'm puzzled.
These are the guys--Bush and Co.--who want to whittle the earth's
population down to something like 1/5th of the present population.

If we think conspiratorially, we may agree that some of these very
same folks are behind  genocidal programs like a man-made AIDS
virus which is decimating most of the world and killing millions even
as I speak.. And other biochemical cancer-causing viruses capable
of wiping out many more. Not to mention all those chemtrails which
may or may not be designed to wipe out most of the rest of us--
eventually.

They are not beyond using poisonous materials in war that will
wipe out their own military forces and even bring the contagion
home so more will die.

So why are they so against the dissemination of birth control
information and family planning? So extremely so that some, like
Ashcroft want to put doctors and nurses in jail if they so much as
mention contraception to their patients. Let alone give information
or provide abortion services. And brand as murderers medical
personnel who participate in abortion services.

They want the people presently on earth to die. But they want to
protect fetuses so they will be born.

What do they think all these fetuses are going to do for them?

There is a perverted logic to this I know. Will someone point it out
to me? I'm not really stupid. Just strategically impaired.


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[CTRL] help

2000-12-09 Thread Eric Stewart
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i am trying to signoff of the list and this is what i get...can anyone tell me if i am mistaken as to how?


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Re: [CTRL] help

2000-12-09 Thread Carl Amedio

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Yes, you are mistaken.

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Re: [CTRL] help

2000-12-09 Thread Carl Amedio

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Re: [CTRL] help

2000-12-09 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 12/9/00 11:50:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

i am trying to signoff of the list and this is what i get...can anyone
tell me if i am mistaken as to how?


 Got ya covered.

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-21 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Jill" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  She likes to play lesbian roles
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 | And what movie would that be?

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 | Boys on the Side.  Ghost  ROFL!


I've never seen "Boys on the Side", but what about her role as a psychic in "Ghost" 
leads you to believe the
character was a lesbian?


 Is this the Whoppi is a man theory list?

Only in Aleisha's mind


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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-21 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Not meaning to be redundant, the point of my letter all of othe above
subject matter, of which Whoopie "Goldburg" aka unknowns, was that
Whoopie is a political propagandist and paid stooge for NWO..she is
lewd and lascivitiouis and one had but to see a sample of her former
stage shows - she made this Dice look mild.

So she is born again jew, had abortions, maybe had children of her own,
but no real documentation.   She was obviously "street" people and plays
good role as lesbian, prostitute, and in ghost - well

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-20 Thread Jill

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|  She likes to play lesbian roles
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| And what movie would that be?

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| Boys on the Side.  Ghost  ROFL!  Is this the Whoppi is a man theory list?

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-20 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Would like to see that story June..one daughter?

It's been in magazines like "People", and on entertainment news shows like 
"Entertainment Tonight".  She may
have more than one child, I believe, but about a year or so ago there was a story 
about her daughter, who was
only 17 or 18 at the time, becoming pregnant.


 All I know is she
 a real jew or is she House of Israel Jew like the Rabbi Washington who
 had his men infiltrate Jonestown and was arrested on old murder warrant
 when he returned to USA some years later.

She married a Jew by the name of Goldberg, hence her name.  I'm not sure whether she 
ever converted to
Judaism.


 To each his own.and I prefer my own kind.   So she is said now to
 have had an abortion,  and she turned Jewish, and now she had a child
 and is a grandmotherdid she adopt like Rosie O'Donnelllatest
 trend is for homosexuals to adopt .suffer little children.

Whoopie Goldberg is a female, and is not a lesbian -- she is constantly shown dating 
men.  She has been
pregnant on more than one occasion, one such occasion ending in an abortion.  She gave 
birth to her children,
she didn't adopt them.  I have never seen any evidence that she 'turned Jewish', even 
though she at one time
was married to a Jewish gentleman.


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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-20 Thread Tenorlove

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 Blessings,
 And the tiny legs and large torso Aleisha comments on, are actually
 indications of thyroid disorder.  There are three body types:
 edomorphic,
 mesomorpic and ectomorphic.  I would say by looking at Whoopi that
 she is an
 ectomorph, which textbook reports that these types of body structures
 have
 problems with diabetes and thyroid functions.

 Dr. Deborah

Have you personally examined Ms. Goldberg, and run test to confirm that
she has "problems with diabetes and thyroid functions"?

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-20 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Deborah Greenhill" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Blessings,
 And the tiny legs and large torso Aleisha comments on, are actually
 indications of thyroid disorder.  There are three body types: edomorphic,
 mesomorpic and ectomorphic.  I would say by looking at Whoopi that she is an
 ectomorph, which textbook reports that these types of body structures have
 problems with diabetes and thyroid functions.

To clarify matters, would the thyroid disorder be hyperthyroidism or hypothyroidism?  
In my experience,
hypothyroidism tends to manifest in endomorphic types.

Goldberg doesn't impress me as a hypothyroid type, so I'd lean towards a possibility 
of a hyperthyroid
disorder...

I haven't heard or read anything regarding Goldberg possibly having diabetes.  I know 
Mary Tyler Moore suffers
from that disorder...


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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-19 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 So I think Whoopie is a man, and I was told Janet Reno was really a man
 but she is more feminine than Whoopie... 

Isn't there an abortion in Whoopie's past?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-19 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 So I think Whoopie is a man, and I was told Janet Reno was really a man
 but she is more feminine than Whoopie... 

 Isn't there an abortion in Whoopie's past?  Prudy

Yes, and she has at least one daughter who recently made Whoopie a grandmother...

In fact, the "Goldberg" part of Whoopie's name comes from Whoopie's first marriage...


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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-19 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Would like to see that story June..one daughter?   All I know is she
a real jew or is she House of Israel Jew like the Rabbi Washington who
had his men infiltrate Jonestown and was arrested on old murder warrant
when he returned to USA some years later.

Drug half way houses?   Well at least Mark Lane escaped - the Judas who
writes the boos.

I consider Whoopie Goldbert highly suspectnot of maybe being a man
or a woman, but her philosophy of life.for when I used to watch Wall
Street after big drug bust, the only stock I saw go down, was owned by
those who were front men for Mafia..

So we have street people and a world of female and male Bensons wanting
to take over USAall I can think of is this - do you want these
people to rule over you?

Frankly I want intelligent people in the White House and do not expect a
perfect manbut these Whoopie Goldbergs - she was compared to Albert
Einstein on web for they say both were slow learners.

Whoopie is lewd and crude and on the web would like to see her biography
and real name - but she does serve a cause, the setting of a role model
for blacks if this type of conduct  is aceptable to them..

To each his own.and I prefer my own kind.   So she is said now to
have had an abortion,  and she turned Jewish, and now she had a child
and is a grandmotherdid she adopt like Rosie O'Donnelllatest
trend is for homosexuals to adopt .suffer little children.

Just keep her out of the Boy Scouts..

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-19 Thread Deborah Greenhill

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Blessings,
And the tiny legs and large torso Aleisha comments on, are actually
indications of thyroid disorder.  There are three body types: edomorphic,
mesomorpic and ectomorphic.  I would say by looking at Whoopi that she is an
ectomorph, which textbook reports that these types of body structures have
problems with diabetes and thyroid functions.

Dr. Deborah
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg,
Baldwin


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 From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  So I think Whoopie is a man, and I was told Janet Reno was really a
man
  but she is more feminine than Whoopie... 
 
  Isn't there an abortion in Whoopie's past?  Prudy

 Yes, and she has at least one daughter who recently made Whoopie a
grandmother...

 In fact, the "Goldberg" part of Whoopie's name comes from Whoopie's first
marriage...


 June

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-18 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 By the way I hink Whoopie Goldberg is a man.
 This movie she put on a dress and she has the physic of Janet Reno onl
 no hips and skinney little mannish legs...

You obviously have never watched "The Color Purple"...


 She likes to play lesbian roles

And what movie would that be?


June

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-18 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Nope saw the color purple - but in the movie where she is a prostitute,
you get a front view of her running and I could not believe it.

As for the color Purple - I saw this movie and it was a great movie but
again, she leaned towards lesbianism; however, in th role with a husband
like that . like FBI, even read and hid her mail (come to think of
it when I kicked out my husband I found my mail hidden in attic from
Assassination Committee).

So I did not watch this movie in its entirety - she wore a wild wig of
long hair, which she removed when chased by the finky fuzz..she was
getting married to this old white millionaire who died before the
wedding was finished and then, this man after her had to be bailbonds
man or something.

So I turned it off - same old stuff - ended up watching Scoobie
Doo..

So I think Whoopie is a man, and I was told Janet Reno was really a man
but she is more feminine than Whoopie.also, a man off list sent me
information that the year she graduated in Florida school, Miami I think
- there was no Janet Reno but a John Reno in the class..well, who
knows.   Beauty is skin deep.  Even after plastic surgury Hilliary stil
has so many wrinkles even sandpaper couldn't wear those down.so it
is all in the close up.

Do no recall name of the movie where she was running with a dress on -
but her top was padded and shouders twice size of hips..front view-
maybe camerman mad?

Just a thought  - I really do not care if she is a man or a woman or a
whatever for I never really cared for her on stage as she was crude and
lewd.example of leveling process in America - so pick a side.

Do you really believe any of these people are democrats?   The ones my
boss used to bring in got paid to be democratsor no show and they
want money up front.

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-18 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 As for the color Purple - I saw this movie and it was a great movie but
 again, she leaned towards lesbianism;

First off, she was playing a role written originally by Alice Walker.  Cher has played 
a lesbian in a movie,
too, so what?  Doesn't mean she IS one.  That is what ACTING means, to act a role.

In "The Color Purple", the implied lesbianism occurs because the character Ceily has 
been physically,
emotionally, and sexually abused by her husband, and "Shug" is the first person to 
show her any kindness and
love...


As for 'skinny mannish legs', you obviously forgot the scene immediately after Miss 
Ceily's stepfather's
funeral, when Ceily returns to her childhood house that she's inherited...

Hardly 'skinny mannish legs'.


 So I did not watch this movie in its entirety -

Obviously.


 So I think Whoopie is a man, and I was told Janet Reno was really a man
 but she is more feminine than Whoopie...

You have a strange a perverted sense of what is 'feminine' if you think Whoopie 
Goldberg is a man.  No, she
doesn't wear frills and ruffles as a general rule...but if you saw her in the 
ballgowns she wore when hosting
the Academy Awards, only someone with bad cataracts could have mistaken her for a man.

Hey, my own mother wore baggy dungarees and loose teeshirts  and 'sensible shoes' when 
such things were not
fashionable.  She was a model at one time (including swimsuits), and was nicknamed 
"The Blonde Bombshell", but
on her own time she was more interested in feeling comfortable than in looking 
'feminine'.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-18 Thread Aleisha Saba

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When I was 18 I did  a wee bit of modeling - Ester William swim suits
for Cole of Columbus - Mr. Cole sold me the suit she wore which was
bright pink with little pearls about the top - wore in a movie.
Mistake was, I was there to buy a suit and he thougoht I was Corelie
Model, which was flattering, and kept giving me these beautiful suits to
put on - including the burnished gold one.later years later, I told
Van Johnson about wearing this one suit for as I recalled he was in that
movieNow I had legs then...and I will never believe Whoope is
not a man until I see her in a bathin suit.

Untouched photos.when I was young, we wore suits and knit dresses
and lots of evening wear but believe me Whoopie Goldberg in this film
with no touching up or trick photography, looks like a man -  rather a
Charles Manson figure.drawfish in a sense.

So next time I watch this movie in its entirety.the dress she was
was a blue sequined dress - and when she ran and camera got her from the
front - well  she virtually had longer arms than legs, leaving forward.

So doesn't make a difference does it?She is funny in some ways but
she was one of the first to hug and kissy poo white men.Without a
flag over her head.

Saba

Sorry if I sound insensitive - but I would like to see her in a bathing
suitby the way when Cole found out I was not a model, they gave
me big discount on bathing suit which I could never have afforded on my
salary then as I was in college..I just liked beautiful clothing.

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-18 Thread Foxter



Didn't see the movie but could believe she 
has excess of Testosterone over Estrogen. But big deal the issue is her 
behavior not body habitus. And that is vapid, ineffectual and not too 
bright either.

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  Wyld 
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  Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 9:12 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Help needed for 
  Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin
  -Caveat Lector-From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] As for the 
  color Purple - I saw this movie and it was a great movie but again, 
  she leaned towards lesbianism;First off, she was playing a role 
  written originally by Alice Walker. Cher has played a lesbian in a 
  movie,too, so what? Doesn't mean she IS one. That is what 
  ACTING means, to act a role.In "The Color Purple", the implied 
  lesbianism occurs because the character Ceily has been 
  physically,emotionally, and sexually abused by her husband, and "Shug" is 
  the first person to show her any kindness andlove...As for 
  'skinny mannish legs', you obviously forgot the scene immediately after Miss 
  Ceily's stepfather'sfuneral, when Ceily returns to her childhood house 
  that she's inherited...Hardly 'skinny mannish legs'. 
  So I did not watch this movie in its entirety 
  -Obviously. So I think Whoopie is a man, and I was 
  told Janet Reno was really a man but she is more feminine than 
  Whoopie...You have a strange a perverted sense of what is 'feminine' 
  if you think Whoopie Goldberg is a man. No, shedoesn't wear frills 
  and ruffles as a general rule...but if you saw her in the ballgowns she wore 
  when hostingthe Academy Awards, only someone with bad cataracts could have 
  mistaken her for a man.Hey, my own mother wore baggy dungarees and 
  loose teeshirts and 'sensible shoes' when such things were 
  notfashionable. She was a model at one time (including swimsuits), 
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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 11/15/2000 9:43:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  It Costs So Little, And It Means So Much
 
  As you are probably aware, if the voting results in Florida stand as
  they
  are now, George W. Bush will be our next President. This will have
  catastrophic results in our vital, no, indispensable entertainment
  industry. 

These folks just don't understand.  They survived the Reagan/Bush
administrations, and the years under Dubya will be governed by the same swell
guys.  Don't worry about Dubya.  Just keep him away from the queen of England
and the country should survive his rule.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-17 Thread Foxter



Prudy's 
right.
For example, 
Oliver North 
told Imus yesterday that he was waiting to be named head 
of the CIA.

I am sending in $l,000. What price 
peace.



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  Much As you are probably aware, if the voting 
  results in Florida stand as they are now, George 
  W. Bush will be our next President. This will have catastrophic 
  results in our vital, no, indispensable entertainment industry. 
  These folks just don't understand. They survived the 
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Re: [CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-17 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Now we build a big boat, and call it the Titanic II.cheap up on
costs,  one lifeboat too many.

Life Viking Ship we give these people free passage and shot flaming
arrows across the bow as it sets and sinks in the sunset or sunrise,
whatever.

By the way I hink Whoopie Goldberg is a man.
This movie she put on a dress and she has the physic of Janet Reno onl
no hips and skinney little mannish legs..nothing about her is real
is it, but she is a propaganda tool.

She likes to play lesbian roles and roles of prostitutes for which she
seems fitted; she has the voice of a man, and is very crude as some men
are - using language of the streets.

would like to see Whoopie Goldberg's birth certificate.bet she was a
little boy for surely,  she has all the attributes of a man..she is
built like a monkey and Janet Reno only smaller.

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[CTRL] Help needed for Streisand, Sheen, Saradon, Goldberg, Baldwin

2000-11-15 Thread Tenorlove

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 It Costs So Little, And It Means So Much

 As you are probably aware, if the voting results in Florida stand as
 they
 are now, George W. Bush will be our next President. This will have
 catastrophic results in our vital, no, indispensable entertainment
 industry.

 Barbra Streisand, Martin Sheen,  Susan Sarandon, Whoopie Goldberg,
 Alec
 Baldwin, Martin Sheen, among many others have sworn to leave the
 country if
 George W. Bush is elected President.

 And this is where YOU can help. We need volunteers to help pack and
 to load
 moving vans. We also need volunteers to provide airfare for these
 irreplaceable national treasures so they can relocate before they can
 change
 their minds.

 For the cost of a small SUV you can sponsor one of these celebrities
 and
 their unfortunate relocation.  You will know that your efforts are
 helping
 when you receive postcards, letters and pictures from your chosen
 "refugee"as they learn to become a useful citizen in the third world
 country
 of their choosing.

 You will help, won't you. It costs so little, but it means so much.
 Call
 1-800-deport-a-lib. Operators are standing by. Major Credit cards are
 accepted.


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[CTRL] Help stop space based weapons.

2000-09-15 Thread Nurev Ind Research

COAST TO COAST AND AROUND THE WORLD

OCTOBER 7 ACTIONS TO STOP MILITARIZATION OF SPACE STILL GROWING



The list of demonstration sites for the "International Day of Protest to
Stop the Militarization of Space" is getting larger each day as we move
closer to October 7.
And there are still more events being organized at this moment!

Actions are planned at key U.S. Space Command bases, U.S. spy satellite
installations, aerospace industry corporations, federal buildings, U.S.
Embassies  Consulates, and in parks and downtown centers around the world.
In one city, an all day space video showing will be held on cable TV.

When we begin to act together, people from different organizations -- people
in different nations, we help create a shift in public thinking and global
consciousness.

There is much to be done to stop the nuclearization and weaponization of
space.  We have to keep learning, sharing information, teaching others,
protesting and demanding that the global political system keep space for
peace.  There can be no half measures, no compromises on the issue of moving
the arms race into the heavens.  We must oppose all research, development,
testing, and deployment of space-based weapons.  We must support an
international ban on weapons in space.  The resources of the world cannot be
squandered on Star Wars.

The current October 7 action list is below:

* Applied Physics Laboratory, Johns Hopkins University (Baltimore, MD)
* Asheville, NC (Downtown at Vance monument)
* Baku, Azerbaijan
* Bathe, Maine  (Aegis destroyer construction)
* Beale AFB, CA (Key radar facility)
* Brookfield, CT
* Bucharest, Romania (American Embassy)
* Cambridge, England
* Cape Canaveral AFS, FL (Key launch facility)
* Chicago, IL (Kluzynski Federal Building)
* Colorado Springs, CO. (Space Command HQ)
* Edwards AFB, CA. (Key flight testing facility)
* Flic en Flac, Mauritius
* Fort Bragg, CA
* France
* Fylingdales, England (Key radar facility)
* Great Neck, NY (Grace Avenue Park)
* Hartford, CT  (United Technologies HQ)
* Holland, MI
* Kalamazoo, MI
* Kathmandu, Nepal (U.S. Embassy)
* Kirtland AFB, NM  (Key laser development center)
* Leicester, England
* London, England (U.S. Embassy)
* Los Angeles AFB, CA  (Space-based laser directorate)
* Madison, WI
* Menwith Hill, England  (Key radar facility)
* Nevada Test Site  (Nuclear test site)
* New York, N.Y.
* Northampton, MA
* Pathanamthitta, India
* Penn State University
* Schwaebisch Gmuend (Germany)
* Seoul, Korea (TMD deployment sites)
* Stockton, CA
* St. Paul, MN (Lockheed Martin)
* Sydney, Australia (TMD testing expected in western Australia)
* Toronto, Canada (Oct 14 at U.S. Consulate)
* Tucson, AZ (Raytheon)
* Valley Forge, PA. (Lockheed Martin)
* Vandenberg AFB, CA  (Key launch facility)
* Vancouver, Canada
* White House, Washington DC


October 7 Actions Int'l Sponsors:

* Abolition 2000
* Arab Coordination Center of NGO's (Egypt)
* Azerbaijan Women  Development Center
* Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (UK)
* Centre for Community Development  Environmental Research (Nepal)
* Civil Network for a Peaceful Korea (Seoul)
* Earth First Journal
* Florida Coalition for Peace  Justice
* Global Peace Walk 2000
* Grandmothers for Peace Int'l (Elk Grove, CA)
* Great Neck SANE/Peace Action (NY)
* Int'l Network on Disarmament  Globilization
* Le Mouvement de la Paix (France)
* LIFPL (Paris)
* Mauritius Action for Disarmament  Peace
* Mendocino Nuclear Peace Action Group (CA)
* Movement for Life  Peace (Buenos Aires)
* Norwegian Peace Alliance
* Nukewatch
* PACE (Canton, CT)
* Pacific Campaign for Disarmament  Security (Japan)
* Pacific Concerns Resource Centre (Fiji)
* Pax Christi Australia
* Pax Christi Florida
* Pax Christi USA
* Peace Action
* People for Nuclear Disarmament (Australia)
* Polk County Citizens for Peace  Justice (Lakeland, FL.)
* The Progressive
* U.S. Peace Council
* War Resisters League **
* WILPF (Asheville, NC)
* WILPF (Canada Section)
* WILPF Int'l Secretariat (Geneva)


Please let us know if your group would like to be listed as an October 7
sponsor and where you will hold a local action on that date.

**  October 7 events are being held in collaboration with the War Resisters
League's "Day Without the Pentagon" on October 14-16


Bruce K. Gagnon
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Global Network Against Weapons  Nuclear Power in Space
PO Box 90083
Gainesville, FL. 32607
(352) 337-9274
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Re: [CTRL] help me out here, gang

2000-08-09 Thread Robert F. Tatman

FWIW, both sites open fine in IE.  I think it may have been an AOL issue
(surprise, surprise!)...

- Original Message -
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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] help me out here, gang


 In a message dated 8/8/00 10:14:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hm. How about that. Somebody else try, somebody with AOL. Then we can
 see if it's specific to Kris's computer or to AOL. Kris should try again
 later to see if it's time specific. Does it work in Explorer?
 
 What about the content?
 
 Now what about this one? What's going on here?
 
   http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com

 Tis working on aol now. The content is, as much as I can tell, fair.

 The vatican bank story is again accurate as far as know. Talk to the
lawyers,
 they are in your town.

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[CTRL] help me out here, gang

2000-08-08 Thread nessie

What do you think of this site? Legit or what?

   http://www.double-cross.com

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Re: [CTRL] help me out here, gang

2000-08-08 Thread Kris Millegan

In a message dated 8/8/00 7:31:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What do you think of this site? Legit or what?

   http://www.double-cross.com

 velly interesting. It will not open in aol's browser, but will in netscape

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Re: [CTRL] help me out here, gang

2000-08-08 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
velly interesting. It will not open in aol's browser, but will in netscape

Hm. How about that. Somebody else try, somebody with AOL. Then we can
see if it's specific to Kris's computer or to AOL. Kris should try again
later to see if it's time specific. Does it work in Explorer?

What about the content?

Now what about this one? What's going on here?

  http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com

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[CTRL] Help Ralph McGehee.

2000-07-01 Thread Nurev Ind Research

PLEASE HELP if you can.

Ralph McGehee is a hero. He left the CIA and exposed their lies about
Vietnam to the American people.

He maintains CIABASE online, and is an ongoing critic of the CIA
criminal enterprise. He lives in Virginia, the home of the CIA and is
being punished for being a good citizen by exposing the dirty behavior
of the CIA. He is under constant harassment by local law enforcement,
and even the management of his local supermarket. We citizens owe him
a lot. Let's do what we can to try to help.

How can we help Ralph?

Joshua2
===
Subject:
 A Plea: Harassment Intensifies
  Date:
 Fri, 26 May 2000 23:57:47 -0500 (CDT)
  From:
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 Organization:
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To:
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5/26/00

Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:  The Herndon Town Council and Mayor
From: Ralph McGehee

Subject: Harasssment of a citizen

   This is another request to the Town of Herdon leadership asking
that they investigate police, town employee and commercial harassement
of myself. Rather than list the various incidents I request a hearing
before members the Town Council to lay out my concerns.

   The level of recent harassment accelerates and reached a stage
where I have experienced physical harm and fear more harm to me,
as well as harm to my wife and property.

   Why me -- I am a vocal critic of the CIA and have been named its
number one critic by a prestigious intelligence publication.

Ralph McGehee

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Re: [CTRL] [HELP] Waco Tank Driver Deaths? (fwd)

2000-05-11 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 05/10/2000 2:55:00 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 "the conspiracy that killed the people at Mount Carmel on April
 19th 1993. Includes three National Guard personal that drove the
 tanks during the siege." 

And here is something at least as bizarre as the dead tank drivers.
The following has been reported almost from day one
of the events at Waco...but reported  only by the "underground media"
and never by the alleged national news media.

Four  BATF agents were killed in the initial assault on the Davidian Church
in February of 1993.  Each of the agents had served as bodyguards for
Bill Clinton during the primaries and first general election in which he
was elected president.
Videotape taken life at the scene during the raid clearly showed
agents climb up a ladder to get on the roof.  One agent laid down
on the roof with his weapon in a ready position, while 2 or 3 other
agents smashed out a second story bedroom window.
They climbed in through the window. Then the other agent who was
still lying on the roof outside the window, got up and went to the
window. He threw something inside and then fired into the room
with his automatic or semiauto rifle.
At that point about 4 or 5 holes suddenly appeared in the wall.
This may have been gunfire from inside or shrapnel from an
explosion, as from a grenade.
The point is, he clearly fired in through the window and into the room
that 2 or 3 agents had just entered!
I have seen that tape many times.  Local television stations in Austin,
Texas broadcast that video repeatedly the day of the raid and for a
week thereafter.
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[CTRL] [HELP] Waco Tank Driver Deaths? (fwd)

2000-05-10 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[Any one help out an acquaintance of mine with references or info
regarding the below? --MS]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:31:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: **@AOL.COM

Perhaps in your accumulated wisdom and vast records, you could
help me in my search for some info that may exist on the possible
deaths of three Texas National Guard tank drivers that were
involved in the tanks that penetrated the Church and possibly
that positioned people.  While prusing the internet on these
subjects, I came across an article that included the statement:

"the conspiracy that killed the people at Mount Carmel on April
19th 1993. Includes three National Guard personal that drove the
tanks during the siege."

I hadn't heard this before today. This is stunning if true.
Especially with the current Danforth investigation.

Any references?

God Bless,

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[CTRL] Help please

2000-04-11 Thread Tenorlove

Does anyone know how to obtain a copy of Sutton's book America's Secret

establishment? I can't seem to find it on some bookstore searches.

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Re: [CTRL] Help please

2000-04-11 Thread tenebroust

You could try a search at: www.abebooks.com/


On Tue, 11 April 2000, Tenorlove wrote:



 Does anyone know how to obtain a copy of Sutton's book America's Secret

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[CTRL] Fwd: Re: Fwd: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-02-01 Thread Colleen Jones




This book is the 1963 Edition of Britannica...Book of the Yearthe
Illustrated Factual Record of Great Events of an Important Year

Published by Encyclopedia Brittannica.also included two book length
articles "The Craft of Intelligence"by Allen W. Dulles, former director
of Central Intelligency Agency (his middle name was Welsh our family
name - they sure get around)  at least one of our family names, so

John F. Kennedy was still alive when this book published.

Now is early in am so forgive errors and I in part will get some of this
off.

ANTARCTICA

During 1962 two significant seps were taken by the US to provide more
permanent facilities in Antarcica.  On February 13, 1962 a new major
scientif station replacing the old Byrd sation built in 1957 and later
crushed beyond repair under many tons of drifted snow ws placed in
commission and occupied by scientists and logistics support
personnel.new statioan consisted of 600 ft. steel arch tunnel with
seven access tunnels so arranged that almost nothing proruded above the
surface of the snow.

On March 4, 1962 a 1500 kw nuclear power plant was activated at McMrdo
sound.  Plant was designed to generate electricty for entire station and
provide steam to melt snow for water suply.in compliance with the 12
nation Antarcic treaty with prohibits nuclear explosions in Anarctica
and the disposal there of rdio active waste material, waste from nuclear
power plant would be removed in approved containers to US for disposal."


My words here:  Now get this, remember when NASA said there was life on
Mars and the press got hyper?   It was a joke

So I go on here:

A meterote weighing 70 lbs was found by US ascientist working in the
eastern Horlick mountains about 350 miles from south pole.was
especially interesting because it was of a relatively ucommon tpe,
siderolite part iron and part stone, conaining large portions of both
nickel iron and silicate.


Me again:  A picture of a huge tunnel being cleared by snow plow:  "City
Under Snow:  a 19 ton tractor cutting pataha between two tunnels 20 feet
under snow at the new Byrd Station, Antarctica, commissioned in
Februaray 1962.U.S navy Seaabees were beginning work on the
foundation of a city under the snow where scientists would and could
conduct their experimentsThe old Byrd station was abandoned beuse of
five years accumulation of snow.


So, Ms. Nabiscothis must be your city of Antarctica.strange
I would  have this out today and you made this request.there is more
but nothing in this part I can type on further.if you want more data
tomorrow will go in other parts of book because there is more
thereone picture huge hole in clouds where the USAF made
hole.deep thick clouds..and talk of OZONE at North Pole,
etc..

So...nuclear plant by the way at both poles..for the Russians
and into these two underground streams, where the seals and turtles and
the seals travel like the jet streams.Plato wrote of these two
streams which they now talk aboutthe La Nica and El Nino.this is
how they melt portion of polar cap and why the dolphins and fish and I
think this is where the lemmings disappar in a whirlpool into this
secret passage to the poleseven the huge sea turtles die.

Good nighttoo tired to write more...hope this helps you and sorry
for delay.

Colleen




Thank you for your concern. What book are you referring to? Your attachment didn't 
reach me. Deedee mentioned something called shipper igloos, but nothing about caves.
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 01:44:15   Colleen Jones wrote:
Well, the Nabisco Kid?

Just today had this older book out dated 1961; has lots of information,
I was looking up all I could find on weather, etc.

Know there are two nuclear plants at poles, one north and one south as
of that date in 1961.and if you look at the attachment you can
contact the people direct.

Look under South Pole..have all kinds of pictures, etc., befroe this
stuf was classified re the weather; but they do melt down portions of
polar cap now to warm up Russia and oceans two inches deeper.

So your friend, has a lot of courage to go therebut, it could be fun
too so long as the heat olds up.

Contact them direct.could find nothing on that city, because it
probably is not incorporated as yet?   Just a bunch of people living in
ice caves, almost like Xanadu?

Colleen

Let me know if you find your friend; just want to know as this is
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Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-01-23 Thread earthman

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And this one

Horlick Mountains are in Antartica
seems to have something to do with a project of JPL.

http://geodynamics.jpl.nasa.gov/antarctica/tamstation.html



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 And this one

 Peter... Yes. you want access to the Hefferlin Manuscripts. i think
 connected to ( i have them im trying to find them ) Hapgood? these cities
 are very well described

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  I need some advice.  About six months ago, my friend told me that she
was
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can
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Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

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There are problems with emigrating to the Antarctic because of of
territorial claims by major powers. I would however, recommend the
"Floating Continent" which is the Arctic Ice Cap. It is 1/4 the size of
Canada and mostly outside territorial waters.
FWP.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Gwinn O Nabisco wrote:

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 I need some advice.  About six months ago, my friend told me that she was leaving 
the "powers that be" and going to a libertarian stronghold in Antarctica.  I think 
the name of the place could be Antarctica City.  I can find no information about this 
place.  My friend was not the kind of person who made things up.  I miss her and fear 
for her safety.  Please provide any information about Antarctica City that you have 
heard.  I am tired of attempting to utilize traditional sources.  I am not a 
conspiritorialist, but I am to the point that I am desperate for some type of lead.  
Please do not make up bogus information, but also, please provide any information 
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Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-01-22 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 There are problems with emigrating to the Antarctic because of of
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 Canada and mostly outside territorial waters.
 FWP. 

And emigration problems just evaporate, right?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-01-22 Thread Gwinn O Nabisco

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 Thanks for your input.  I am pretty sure that Deedee was not overly concerned with 
immigration law.  Once she got mixed up with a group of women called "shipper-igloos" 
or something like that, all she could talk about was Antarctica City.  I have heard 
about Russian tunnels and she mentioned the name "Lanica".  Another, apparently well 
educated woman told me about the Horlick Mountains.  I think that this may be a 
valuable clue.  Have you heard about any of these terms?
Thanks
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There are problems with emigrating to the Antarctic because of of
territorial claims by major powers. I would however, recommend the
"Floating Continent" which is the Arctic Ice Cap. It is 1/4 the size of
Canada and mostly outside territorial waters.
FWP.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Gwinn O Nabisco wrote:

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 I need some advice.  About six months ago, my friend told me that she was leaving 
the "powers that be" and going to a libertarian stronghold in Antarctica.  I think 
the name of the place could be Antarctica City.  I can find no information about this 
place.  My friend was not the kind of person who made things up.  I miss her and fear 
for her safety.  Please provide any information about Antarctica City that you have 
heard.  I am tired of attempting to utilize traditional sources.  I am not a 
conspiritorialist, but I am to the point that I am desperate for some type of lead.  
Please do not make up bogus information, but also, please provide any information 
about this place that you have heard.  Thanks.


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Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-01-22 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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-Original Message-
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Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City


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 Thanks for your input.  I am pretty sure that Deedee was not overly
concerned with immigration law.  Once she got mixed up with a group of women
called "shipper-igloos" or something like that, all she could talk about was
Antarctica City.  I have heard about Russian tunnels and she mentioned the
name "Lanica".  Another, apparently well educated woman told me about the
Horlick Mountains.  I think that this may be a valuable clue.  Have you
heard about any of these terms?
Thanks

No I haven't. Allowing for a little tongue-in-cheek, Arctica could well be a
new frontier for settlement. In some places the water beneath the ice is
only a few hundred feet thick. The eminent architect, Dr. Dante Bini has
designed "Tower City" to be built on shallow coastal seas and presented it
at an MIT conference.
FWP.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:47:42   Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
-Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
/A -Cui Bono?-

There are problems with emigrating to the Antarctic because of of
territorial claims by major powers. I would however, recommend the
"Floating Continent" which is the Arctic Ice Cap. It is 1/4 the size of
Canada and mostly outside territorial waters.
FWP.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Gwinn O Nabisco wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 I need some advice.  About six months ago, my friend told me that she
was leaving the "powers that be" and going to a libertarian stronghold in
Antarctica.  I think the name of the place could be Antarctica City.  I can
find no information about this place.  My friend was not the kind of person
who made things up.  I miss her and fear for her safety.  Please provide any
information about Antarctica City that you have heard.  I am tired of
attempting to utilize traditional sources.  I am not a conspiritorialist,
but I am to the point that I am desperate for some type of lead.  Please do
not make up bogus information, but also, please provide any information
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Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-01-22 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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-Original Message-
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In a message dated 01/22/2000 3:47:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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 There are problems with emigrating to the Antarctic because of of
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 "Floating Continent" which is the Arctic Ice Cap. It is 1/4 the size of
 Canada and mostly outside territorial waters.
 FWP. 

And emigration problems just evaporate, right?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-01-22 Thread nessie

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/A -Cui Bono?-

the

"Floating Continent" which is the Arctic Ice Cap. It is 1/4 the size of

Canada and mostly outside territorial waters.



The rent's cheap, too.

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Re: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-01-22 Thread earthman

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And this one

Peter... Yes. you want access to the Hefferlin Manuscripts. i think
connected to ( i have them im trying to find them ) Hapgood? these cities
are very well described

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From: Gwinn O Nabisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 5:44 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Help/Antarctica City


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 I need some advice.  About six months ago, my friend told me that she was
leaving the "powers that be" and going to a libertarian stronghold in
Antarctica.  I think the name of the place could be Antarctica City.  I can
find no information about this place.  My friend was not the kind of person
who made things up.  I miss her and fear for her safety.  Please provide any
information about Antarctica City that you have heard.  I am tired of
attempting to utilize traditional sources.  I am not a conspiritorialist,
but I am to the point that I am desperate for some type of lead.  Please do
not make up bogus information, but also, please provide any information
about this place that you have heard.  Thanks.


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[CTRL] Help/Antarctica City

2000-01-21 Thread Gwinn O Nabisco

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I need some advice.  About six months ago, my friend told me that she was leaving the 
"powers that be" and going to a libertarian stronghold in Antarctica.  I think the 
name of the place could be Antarctica City.  I can find no information about this 
place.  My friend was not the kind of person who made things up.  I miss her and fear 
for her safety.  Please provide any information about Antarctica City that you have 
heard.  I am tired of attempting to utilize traditional sources.  I am not a 
conspiritorialist, but I am to the point that I am desperate for some type of lead.  
Please do not make up bogus information, but also, please provide any information 
about this place that you have heard.  Thanks.


LYCOShop. Thousands of products!  One location!
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Re: [CTRL] Help

1999-10-18 Thread Dave

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http://www.conservativenet.com/HotTopics.main/HotMike/document-9.24.1997.7.h
tml

http://www.cafes.net/mo/tasklist.htm
From the Congressional Record

http://users.aol.com/~beachbt/

http://www.idmedia.com/cia-no-frames.htm
http://www.idmedia.com/ttd.htm

http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/POLITICS/BODIES.html
http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/

http://www.judicialwatch.org/

http://www.salonmag.com/news/1998/04/cov_08newsa_test.html

http://www2.bomis.com/rings/clintonbodycount/

http://www.freerepublic.com/


Dave Hartley
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 3:49 PM
Subject: Help


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can anyone recommend, or does anyone know of a link that lists the scandals
and investigations dealing with Clinton's two administrations?

It might include, for example, Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate,
Troopergate,
Fostergate, Mena, Lewinsky, Flowers, Jones, and the Arkansas nurse, Ron
Brown, Mike Espy, Henry Cisneros, Joycelynn Elders, et al.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Richmond Odom

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[CTRL] Help!

1999-09-20 Thread Phil Chapman



Dogonit! You guys did this to me a few days 
ago, too!  Didn'tanswer my e-mails requesting help and forced me to 
reregister using another name (since I had no idea what else could be wrong 
then, either). This time, however, I'm getting a "cookies" problem 
screen. I don't know what to do about it as I haven't changed anything and 
I was posting and scooting around ok just last night. So what's up 
already? Please help resolve this as I'm at a critical point following my 
meager investments and need to stay in touch and connected with the thread I'm 
following.

Thanks, Phil Chapman, "Chappamano", Password 
"Burr"

PS Going out now to play "dogball", i. e. 
very bad tennis. Sure hope I can post (and scoot around) when I get 
back.


Re: [CTRL] Help! redirected

1999-09-20 Thread Kirimaku




Here you go Phil - the list is not able to help you, you need to work 
through the list serv
(information below to resolve problems). Also it is good to include 
your email address under your name - not every list provides the members email 
information and I was unable to lift your address from the reply to hyperlink so 
am forced to post this to the list in response
Kiri

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Phil Chapman 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:58 
  AM
  Subject: [CTRL] Help!
  
  Dogonit! You guys did this to me a few days 
  ago, too! Didn'tanswer my e-mails requesting help and forced me to 
  reregister using another name (since I had no idea what else could be wrong 
  then, either). This time, however, I'm getting a "cookies" problem 
  screen. I don't know what to do about it as I haven't changed anything 
  and I was posting and scooting around ok just last night. So what's up 
  already? Please help resolve this as I'm at a critical point following 
  my meager investments and need to stay in touch and connected with the thread 
  I'm following.
  
  Thanks, Phil Chapman, "Chappamano", Password 
  "Burr"
  
  PS Going out now to play "dogball", i. e. 
  very bad tennis. Sure hope I can post (and scoot around) when I 
  get back.


Re: [CTRL] Help! redirected

1999-09-20 Thread Phil Chapman



Kiri,

Thanks for your reply. Prob since resolved.

Phil

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  PM
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redirected
  
  
  Here you go Phil - the list is not able to help you, you need to work 
  through the list serv
  (information below to resolve problems). Also it is good to include 
  your email address under your name - not every list provides the members email 
  information and I was unable to lift your address from the reply to hyperlink 
  so am forced to post this to the list in response
  Kiri
  
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- Original Message - 
From: 
Phil 
Chapman 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:58 
AM
Subject: [CTRL] Help!

Dogonit! You guys did this to me a few 
days ago, too! Didn'tanswer my e-mails requesting help and forced me 
to reregister using another name (since I had no idea what else could be 
wrong then, either). This time, however, I'm getting a "cookies" 
problem screen. I don't know what to do about it as I haven't changed 
anything and I was posting and scooting around ok just last night. So 
what's up already? Please help resolve this as I'm at a critical point 
following my meager investments and need to stay in touch and connected with 
the thread I'm following.

Thanks, Phil Chapman, "Chappamano", Password 
"Burr"

PS Going out now to play "dogball", i. e. 
very bad tennis. Sure hope I can post (and scoot around) when I 
get back.


Re: [CTRL] Help!

1999-09-20 Thread The Rooster

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I received you here loud and clear. Is that what you were wanting? A
systems check?

Rooster

On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:58:38 -0400 Phil Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Dogonit!  You guys did this to me a few days ago, too!  Didn't answer
my e-mails requesting help and forced me to reregister using another
name (since I had no idea what else could be wrong then, either).
This time, however, I'm getting a "cookies" problem screen.  I don't
know what to do about it as I haven't changed anything and I was
posting and scooting around ok just last night.  So what's up already?
 Please help resolve this as I'm at a critical point following my
meager investments and need to stay in touch and connected with the
thread I'm following.

Thanks, Phil Chapman, "Chappamano", Password "Burr"

PS  Going out now to play "dogball", i. e. very bad tennis.   Sure
hope I can post (and scoot around) when I get back.

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[CTRL] Help Save Our Newest American Stonehenge.

1999-08-03 Thread Steve Wingate

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Subject:[illusions] Help Save Our Newest American "Stonehenge."
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 http://www.savethecircle.org/
 THE CIRCLE IS NOT SAVED YET

 The Miami Circle echoes England's Stonehenge monument, and is quite
 possibly the most important archeological find in North America.

 The Circle, however, is at risk because it is in the middle of a
 construction site planned for two high-rise apartment towers.

 THERE ARE JUST A FEW MONTHS LEFT
IN PHASE ONE OF PRESERVING THE CIRCLE LEGACY.
   YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

PHASE ONE: The Court date to decide the Circle's fate is set for October,
and we must raise to money to purchase the land by then.

Because timely action is needed, we at Save The Circle are working
closely with Miami-Dade County and other archaeological and preservation
groups, doing all we can, giving of our time and resources to Save the
Circle. Your actions can have an impact, the unity of our focus can succeed.


PHASE TWO: The film documentary to record and preserve the legacy of
the Circle no matter what happens in court.

Your Gifts and Talents are valuable and necessary if we are to preserve the
Circle.

This is the opportunity for you to be an important part in saving our North
American history. Many of you have life experience and resources that are
essential in this fight to Save the Circle. Some of you are in the position to
make a generous contribution or know someone who can. Perhaps you
have done major fundraising or have contacts with big donars or know how
to network and lobby.

If you are a student, please keep in mind:

1- You will get credit for community service, which helps any resume. 2-
This is a Valuable Life Experience, a chance to save an important part of
our history. 3- Some who are in Miami will be interacting closely with the
core group at Vision Earth, an international film company,  gaining
experience behind the scenes.

THIS IS THE TIME FOR THOSE WHO CARE TO SUCCEED!

Possible ways to help include: Invoicing, Packaging and Shipping our
Fundraising Posters, T-Shirts and Pendants. Manning the Phones when we
are on national Radio and TV. Calling other organizations to join our efforts.
Contacting Web Newsgroups, doing Web Research or handling our Web
correspondence. Graphics designing for desktop publishing. Assistance
with the filming of events surrounding the Miami Circle.

Please, consider what's within your reach...all of us together can make a
difference!

To volunteer, contact KYNTHIA at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /
Volunteer Coordinator for SavetheCircle.org.

Donations to help purchase the land from the contractor and save the
Circle from destruction can be made on-line or by mail.

TO MAIL IN DONATIONS: Please made Check or Money Order PAYABLE
to:

VISION EARTH -- SAVE THE CIRCLE
1825 NE 149 Street
Miami, Florida, USA 33181

FAX: 305.945.0300 OR 800-628-6277 (KYNTHIA'S 800#)
j

Steve Wingate

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SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

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Re: [CTRL] Help Save Our Newest American Stonehenge.

1999-08-03 Thread Bill

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Bush supposedly unveiled a plan to buy the land with state
funds but we all know about political promises, especially
Native Americans...

   On May 12,  1999  I went down to Miami to see the Miami
Circle, the recently excavated archaeological remains of an
early Native American structure at the mouth of the Miami
River.   I'd seen archaeological survey pictures but upon
review of them again, after my visit to the site,  I
realized that the published photos were specially taken to
disclude the skyline of Miami proper.  This site is right on
the river bank where the river empties into Biscayne Bay,
and is bordered by a seawall on two sides (North and East).
Generally speaking the empty lot is totally surrounded by
some rather raucous and definitely humongous modern
architecture.  The excavations themselves had been
Re-covered with the original overburden, and I was observing
all this with binoculars from where I was parked at the top
of the bridge which borders the west side of the site.
At 3 AM even Miami is quiet, and I was allowed a
true birds eye view of the earthworks.  Elevation is
moundlike, rising up toward the east to its maximum height,
which appears by eye to be 8 or 10 feet.   Beneath the
rubble covering the site proper lay the posthole molds and
other Archaeo Logical evidence left by some sort of
inhabited structure.   Situation of this historical detritus
leads some to believe the site may have posessed spiritual
aspects.
 This, to me, seems easy to perceive because the Early
People in America were uniquely in tune to their
environment, and most if not all of their actions and
constructions were spiritually weighed against the
ramifications of their interaction with their worlds.  The
Native American religion reflects above all their
Relationship with the Earth, and their utter cohesiveness
with it.   It is a well developed form of spirituality very
much akin to many of the early european religions prior to
Christianity.
  This, also, is easily seen when it is realized that
Christianity has always been nothing so much as the
carrying-on of Romes Empire.  The Native American Tribes had
this hugely bountiful and awesomely beautiful world of
America to themselves, before european intervention, and the
europeans, by the time of their arrival, had diverged down
the evolutionary path away from an Earth Religion for almost
1500 years.  They had been well converted by their
conqueror, Rome, who had pretty much adopted a Southern
religion, an aspect of Judaism which was to become
Christianity as we know it.
  So. This continuing Empire of Rome, this
Christianity,  had developed fair technology by the time of
its intervention in the American Ecology, up to and
including explosive ballistics, and between their technology
and their germs they laid waste to the indigenous peoples of
America.  The genotypes of many thousands of thousands of
years were wasted and lost, maybe to recur someday in the
far far future, maybe not.
 I put the binoculars down and looked around the bridge
whose wall I was now standing on.   There was this huge and
phallic modern monument on the top of the bridge, a bunch of
intertwined bodies I think, with some archer at the top in a
very dramatic shooting pose and aiming upward.  Shoot the
moon, yeah.
 I found this modern sculpture banal and lacking against
the popularly perceived simplicity of the abode below me by
the river, which I know, through reading and searching,
posesses the keys for a new perception, or a true rebirth of
old perceptions, and therefore, at this time in history
anyway, is infinitely more valuable and necessary.  I
pictured a quick flow of time; the next end, the toppling of
that statue, then hidden for 3000 years or so in the muck of
the mouth of the Miami River, and I thought maybe it might
have its day too, eventually.  Will its ultimate finders
appreciate its message?
 I don't know.
 I believe though that there is a very distinct
possibility they will ridicule it.  Depends on what the
future holds for our race genetically and environmentally,
the race of Human.  If we poison ourselves and our
environment with chemicals and radioactive wastes so that
birth deformities or anti-immune traits become more common,
then our bequeathment will be despised.  And whether we care
or not, we WILL be judged,  By Future Generations3tk4.
Time tempers the seemingly slow reaction of Life so that its
patterns disappear to all but the astute and vigilant.  Or
the unwitting victims.
 This all went through my head pretty quickly as I stood
the guardrail wall that ran along the top of the bridge.
 I considered Man the builder, and the never ending
records made by this organism as it traverses its planetary
bounds, and how its constantly patting itself on the back in
ostentation, which is a stone cold lie, but everybody is so
duped by something suspiciously resembling a breeding frenzy
that we aren't flowering, 

Re: [CTRL] Help

1999-08-01 Thread John Schwab

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I can no longer use this e-mail account for anything else.
If someone knows who it is I am suposed to e-mail I would appreciate it if
you would e-mail me  address.

Thank you,
John Schwab


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[CTRL] HELP

1999-08-01 Thread John Schwab




How do I unsubscribe to this news letter. I do like it and the 
information is about things I have been trying to get info on for a while now. 
The problem is I can't use this e-mail account for anything else because of the 
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Thank you,
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Re: [CTRL] Help please!

1999-05-22 Thread True Faith


Hi Joe!
I do not have the URL for this but when I received this information
months ago I saved it in my documents. Here's the info you are looking
for.
~Heidi~
Clinton Scandal

The following is a list of dead people associated with Bill Clinton:
James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died
of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He
was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered
July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The
murder happened just after she was to go public with her story
of sexual harassment in the White House.
Vince Foster - Former white House counselor, and colleague
of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a
gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC
Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash.
A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there
was
a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound.
At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and
spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
C. Victor Raiser II -  - Montgomery Raiser: Major players
in the the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private
plane crash in July 1992.
Paul Tulley - Democratic Nat'l Committee Political Director
found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992
Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993
deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head.
Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife
Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval
office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
Clinton fund raising events.
Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team
in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted
intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father
was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to
reveal this information. After he died the files were
mysteriously removed from his house.
James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported
that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of
influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Ark.
James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an
apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties
to Whitewater.
Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny
Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living
room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide
even
though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was
going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along
with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson
was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy
Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee,
he was
found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a
suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.
Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater
died by jumping out a window of a tall building January,
1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
Florence Martin - Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA
related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case.
Died of three gunshot wounds.
Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton
when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot
wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant
at the time of her death.
Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf
from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a
one car accident.
Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating
Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance
Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle
of his investigation.
Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena
Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was
found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC
apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks
before his death.
Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution
Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia
apartment balcony August15, 1993 Was investigating
Morgan Guarantee scandal.
Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked
closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death
unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body
was found locked in her office at the Dept of Commerce.
Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who
gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly
thereafter in a small plane crash.
Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic
Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney
Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition
to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated
Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
Barry Seal - Drug running pilot 

Re: [CTRL] Help please!

1999-05-20 Thread DIG Anonymous

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Here is one of the URL's for Klinton's Dead Body List:

 A HREF="http://www.sightings.com/political/clintonbodycount.htm"SIGHTINGS
/Aclick here

or go to
http://www.sightings.com/political/clintonbodycount.htm

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Re: [CTRL] Help please!

1999-05-17 Thread Peter L. Sroufe

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Joe New, go to:
http://www.newsmax.com/

Bard

Visit me at:
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 Could someone please post the URL of the site that has the list of all of
 Clinton's associates who have died under mysterious circumstances?

 Thanks in advance,
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[CTRL] Help for the Map-Challenged CIA

1999-05-17 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: Help for the Map-Challenged CIA
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Help for the Map-Challenged CIA


Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit

source: Green Left Weekly #361 5/19/99

Maps

To Director of Central Intelligence
Central Intelligence Agency
Washington, DC 20505

It has come to my attention that there was a bit of a boo-boo in Belgrade
this past week. Apparently the Central Intelligence Agency had some
difficulty locating the Federal Directorate for Supply and Procurement and
accidentally bombed the Chinese Embassy.

It seems the problem had to do with having an outdated map. Maps must be
getting awfully expensive, because even with the CIA's $40 billion a year
budget, you guys apparently couldn't afford a current one. Therefore,
enclosed please find one map of Belgrade, Yugoslavia.

I bought it at a local bookstore. (Don't worry about the cost, $1.99, it's
on me.) It has a copyright date of 1999, so it should be current.

While I was at the bookstore I also took the liberty of picking up a
Frommer's Travel Guide for Yugoslavia for you, should you choose to travel
there. What with all the death and destruction the United States and NATO
are causing there right now, hotel rates are probably pretty cheap.

Also, might I suggest that in the future you guys double check your maps
with the Internet? I managed to find the following addresses in about five
minutes of searching:

Federal Directorate of Supply and Procurement
Tresnjin Cvet ST. 5 11000
Belgrade, Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Embassy of the People's Republic of China
Tresnjin Cvet ST. 3 11000
Belgrade, Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

Cliff Pearson
Dallas, Texas

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Re: [CTRL] Help please!

1999-05-17 Thread Eagle 1





For those who may be 
interested:
ftp://tezcat.com/patriot



MURDER, BANK FRAUD, DRUGS, 
AND SEXBy Nicholas A. Guarino




MURDER, BANK FRAUD, DRUGS, AND SEXFrom the 
Patriot Archives ftp site at: ftp://tezcat.com/patriot

 MURDER, BANK FRAUD, DRUGS, AND SEXBy Nicholas A. Guarino[List of 
victims from pamphlet] 


1) Luther Jerry 
Parks 
2) Jon Parnell Walker 
3) Danny Ferguson 
4) Vincent Foster 
5-6) C. Victor Raiser II  
Son Montgomery 
7) Herschel Friday 
8) Dr. Ronald Rogers 
9) Barry Seal 
10-11) Kevin Ives  Don 
Henry 
12-17) Keith Coney, Gregory 
Collins, Keith McKaskle, Jeff Rhodes, Richard Winters, Jordan Winters 
18) Danny Casolaro 
19) Paul Wilcher 
20) Ed Willey 
21) John A. Wilson 
Other stange deaths and 
occurances 
WHITEWATER 
Finale
Return to the Klinton Khronicles Page

 Victim #1: On September 26, 1993, Luther 
Jerry Parks enjoyed a nice dinner at a Mexican restaurant in Little 
Rock. 
On the way home, his car was forced to a stop and he was mowed down by 
unfriendlies with nine-millimeter semiautomatic pistols. 
The coroner pulled nine bullets from Jerry's body. I believe we can safely 
rule out suicide on this one. And it doesn't sound like your standard drive-by 
shooting, either. In fact, witnesses claim the hit man was a former state 
trooper who was very close to Bill Clinton. 
Jerry was the owner of American Contract Services, which supplied the guards 
for Clinton's presidential campaign and transition headquarters. (Clinton still 
owed him $81,000.) So he knew a lot about Clinton's comings and goings. 
As a matter of fact, Jerry had quietly been compiling a major study of 
Clinton's sexual affairs for about six years. Not quietly enough, though. 
Shortly before his demise, his home was broken into and the study's backup files 
-- filled with photos and names -- were stolen, according to his widow, Jane... 
after the security alarm was skilfully cut. Nothing else was taken. 
His big mistake: He threatened Clinton, Jane said, saying 
he'd go public if he didn't get his $81,000. And then came the end. The 
*London Sunday Telegraph* quoted Jerry's son Gary, 23, stating the obvious: 
...they had my father killed to save Bill Clinton's political 
career. 
After a long investigation, Little Rock police detective Sergeant Clyde 
Steelman gave his character endorsement: The Parks family aren't lying to 
you. 
But unless you live in Arkansas, you probably never heard about Jerry Parks. 
If you lived in London (or Nairobi or Hong Kong) you would know more. Whitewater 
and other Clinton scandals are a *far* bigger story overseas. Many foreign 
observers feel the Whitewater coverup is the biggest one in the world in fifty 
or sixty years.[...]
Return to Victim index 

Victim #2: You must understand the central fact about the 
Whitewater Development Corporation: It was *not* the main crime. 
Whitewater was only a pretext set up by Jim McDougal and the Clintons to milk 
millions of dollars from the SBA [Small Business Administration], banks, 
Arkansas Development Finance Authority, and Madison Guaranty Savings  Loan 
(which was later bailed out by us taxpayers to the tune of $65 million). 
The Resolution Trust Corporation [RTC] people eventually figured out that 
their investigation of Madison wasn't getting anywhere because it was based in 
Kansas City, where Clinton's people stymied it. So Jon Parnell Walker, a Senior 
Investigation Specialist in the RTC's Washington office, began a campaign to get 
the case moved to DC. 
Soon after, Jon was looking over a possible new apartment in Lincoln Towers 
in Arlington, Virginia, when reportedly he suddenly decided to climb over the 
balcony railing and jump. 
Jon's friends, family, and co-workers all agree on one fact: This man was 
*not* depressed. Maybe he was just impulsive.
Return to Victim index 

Victim #3: You remember the name Danny Ferguson. He is the 
Arkansas patrolman who once said he brought Paula Jones to Bill Clinton's hotel 
room. 
Kathy, 38, his wife at the time, blabbed a lot about such things. She often 
told friends and co-workers about how Bill had gotten Danny to bring women to 
him and stand watch while they had sex. 
(Altogether, Bill had hundreds of women brought to him, sometimes several a 
day. Young, pretty women pulled over for speeding or whatever would be offered a 
choice between a jail sentence or a trip to go see Bill.) 
Part of Danny's job was to make sure that each woman was ready and willing 
when Bill met her. Kathy told people that Bill was *really* mad when Paula Jones 
wouldn't put out. Bill hates to be refused. On May 10, [1994] Kathy was found dead with a pistol in her hand.
A suicide, the police said. Only three problems with this:
   a. Women rarely use guns to kill themselves.
   b. I can't find anyone who *ever* heard of a nurse shooting
  herself. (Why should they? They know all the right dosages
  

Re: [CTRL] Help for the Map-Challenged CIA

1999-05-17 Thread True Faith

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Take no prisoners! Go Kris Go!  :) (he he he)

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[CTRL] Help please!

1999-05-16 Thread Joe New

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Could someone please post the URL of the site that has the list of all of
Clinton's associates who have died under mysterious circumstances?

Thanks in advance,
Joe

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[CTRL] Help repeal NEW 'Know Your Customer' attempts!

1999-04-27 Thread Bill Richer

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Subj:Help repeal NEW 'Know Your Customer' attempts!
Date:   4/20/99 9:33:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Alan Cheney)

Dear Friends and Family,

I'm participating in an Internet campaign to repeal regulations from the
federal government that will force your bank to spy on you, and I'd like
to invite you to join me.

Please forward this message to any friends, family, co-workers,
neighbors, or other people you know who may be interested, then go
to   A HREF="http://www.defendyourprivacy.com/"DEFEND YOUR
PRIVACY!/A
[ http://www.defendyourprivacy.com ]
and sign the petition. It will be submitted directly to your Representative
in the U.S. House. Plus, a copy will be sent to both your U.S. Senators.

In December 1998, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) proposed
a so-called "Know Your Customer" rule. If enacted, Know Your Customer would
have required banks to monitor your checking and savings account, and
report any "unusual transactions" to the federal government.  This
frightening threat to your financial privacy would have forced your bank
to:

  * Discover your source of funds

  * Determine your "normal and expected transactions"

  * Report any "suspicious activity" to federal investigators

However, in the face of overwhelming public opposition, generated in large
part by an Internet campaign like this one, the FDIC withdrew their
proposed Know Your Customer regulation. However, the battle isn't over yet.

It turns out that the Federal Reserve's "Bank Secrecy Act Compliance
Manual" pressures banks to develop policies similar to Know Your Customer,
policies that over 88% of banks have begun to implement. After the heat
dies down, the Federal Reserve Board plans to repackage Know Your Customer
as "policy guidelines" instead of "regulations".

The government claims it is trying to thwart money launderers and drug
dealers. But what this law does is turn every bank teller into a government
informer and everyone with a bank account into a criminal suspect.

In a free society, the government has no business asking where you get your
money or how you spend it -- and politicians have no right to force your
bank to monitor your account. Know Your Customer doesn't need to be
"repackaged" -- it needs to be repealed.

Congressman Ron Paul has introduced the Know Your Customer Sunset Act (HR
516) and the Bank Secrecy Sunset Act (HR 518) that together will repeal
existing Know Your Customer reporting requirements, and prevent any new KYC
rules from being implemented. Together, these two bills will guarantee that
our financial privacy will be respected.

Over 250,000 outraged Americans flooded the FDIC with e-mails, letters, and
faxes during Know Your Customer Round One -- and the FDIC backed down! Now
we need to make sure Congress finishes the job by passing HR 516  HR 518.

Let's keep up the pressure!

Please forward this e-mail to everyone you know who might be interested in
helping. But please don't send it indiscriminately -- spam will only hurt
our campaign.

Then go to   A HREF="http://www.defendyourprivacy.com/"DEFEND YOUR PRIVACY!
/A
http://www.DefendYourPrivacy.com and sign the petition. Thank you.

Alan

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Re: [CTRL] HELP:) Re: INTERFERENCE

1999-01-03 Thread Tenorlove

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No need to post (and take up mailbox space); I sent Mike the whole
thing off-list.

Tenorlove
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[CTRL] HELP:) Re: INTERFERENCE

1999-01-02 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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I had ISP problems LIKE A BIG DOG:(

Could the person that posted these forward them both to me, i.e.,
my ISP deleted ALL of my unread/inbox mail!!


Thanks, and GOOD STUFF (from what little I had scanned).

Best,

Mike

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