Re: [CTRL] Woman Drowns Her Five Children In Texas

2001-06-23 Thread Samantha L.
-Caveat Lector- I thought it was terribly strange that her husband was composed enough to give a news conference the next day. I read in today's paper that he works for NASA, which makes me wonder about an mc experimentation connection. Samantha In a message dated 6/20/01 6:01:38 PM Central

[CTRL] Bush Loses Favor, Poll Says, Despite Tax Cut and Trip

2001-06-23 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- June 21, 2001 Bush Loses Favor, Poll Says, Despite Tax Cut and Trip By RICHARD L. BERKE and JANET ELDER The New York Times Despite his first overseas trip as president and the passage of his sweeping measure to cut taxes, President Bush's standing as a leader on both domestic

[CTRL] With out a pie, Kim disses Kissinger--to his face!

2001-06-23 Thread radman
-Caveat Lector- Subject: Without a pie, Kim disses Kissinger--to his face! From: Viviane Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 : From: Kim Scipes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Folks-- I don't normally engage in individualistic-type actions, and generally don't promote them, by I'm

[CTRL] Kennedy-McCain Respond to Bush's Veto Threat

2001-06-23 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:39:49 -0700 From: truthout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Kennedy-McCain Respond to Bush's Veto Threat To: (Recipient list suppressed) t r u t h

[CTRL] Fwd: Religion in Guyana - Cults

2001-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
Is it possible that the Rabbi Washington, of the House of Israel brought about the murder of Jim Jonesnote the same charges against Jones, as was brought against David Koreshchild abuse, etc., etc., etec. Seems strange these two were next door neighbors; regardless, when Rabbi Washington

[CTRL] AM: Bovard: Bootlick FBI Oversight

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- htttp://www.spectator.org/campaign/bovard/bovard010622.htm The American Spectator (Posted 6/22/01) Bootlick FBI Oversight by James Bovard The Constitution has been saved! On Wednesday the Senate Judiciary Committee held the first of a series of oversight hearings on the

[CTRL] AP: 14 Indicted in Saudi Arabia Bombing

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- -- Unfinished business from the Clinton watch ... - - 14 Indicted in Saudi Arabia Bombing by JONATHAN D. SALANT Associated Press Writer ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) -- Thirteen Saudis and one Lebanese were indicted Thursday in the 1996 bombing that killed 19 American servicemen in

[CTRL] USPS Suspicious Transaction Form

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- I think this has something to do with the War on Drugs... http://www.boortz.com/USPS.htm === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*

[CTRL] AP: Judge Hears 'Kennewick Man' Case

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/topnews/ap856.htm Judge Hears 'Kennewick Man' Case by JEFF BARNARD Associated Press Writer PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- A federal judge said Wednesday that he had ''very serious concerns'' about the basis for an Interior Department decision last year

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-23 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- it isn't gay men who are molesting children. it is paedophiles. don't any of you homophobe paranoiacs know enough of what you are writing about to tell the difference? sure, give us lists of abused scouts- but balance it with lists of abused choirboys, students, whatever. there

[CTRL] McVeigh Death Certificate . . .

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- McVeigh Death Certificate Crime/Corruption News Keywords: DEATH CERTIFICATE Source: Links in body Published: unk. Author: listed Posted on 06/20/2001 12:49:29 PDT by rdavis84 The below .gif is from this site - http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mcveighcert1.shtml with my

[CTRL] NM: Streisand: Energy Conservation for Thee but Not for Me

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Wednesday, June 20; 2001 5:17 p.m. EDT Streisand: Energy Conservation for Thee but Not for Me A day after left-wing looney Barbra Streisand decided to go public with recommendations on how to solve

[CTRL] AP: Professor Who Lied to Give Up Course

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- AP National Professor Who Lied to Give Up Course SOUTH HADLEY, Mass. (AP) -- Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Joseph J. Ellis, who made false claims in classes and interviews that he served in Vietnam, will give up the American culture course he teaches at Mount Holyoke

[CTRL] ADG: Why Huckabee must be grateful to Hale

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette June 13, 2001, Wednesday Why Huckabee must be grateful to Hale By: Gene Lyons Anybody can understand why Gov. Mike Huckabee would be grateful to convicted embezzler and Whitewater con man David Hale. He's more responsible than anybody apart from

[CTRL] CT: The only scandal was this hearing

2001-06-23 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- [ I do not know enough about this case to have an opinion, but this is an entirely different slant on it ... ] Chicago Tribune June 17, 2001 Sunday CHICAGOLAND FINAL EDITION The only scandal was this hearing By: James Warren. Indiana's cantankerous Rep. Dan Burton was

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-23 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 23 Jun 01, at 9:26, c. wrote: sure, give us lists of abused scouts- but balance it with lists of abused choirboys, students, whatever. there seems to be an inordinate amount of this bullshit on CTRL these past weeks about gay conspiracy and most of it seems to be about

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-23 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride -Caveat Lector- On 23 Jun 01, at 9:26, c. wrote: sure, give us lists of abused scouts- but balance it with lists

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride- a churches guidlines

2001-06-23 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- no mention of homoseuals (funnily enough.. pah) only mention of paedophiles (non-gendertype) only mention of children (non-gendertype) anyone scared of homosexuals interfering with children in their care are deluding themselves about the real problem. anyone scared of their

Re: [CTRL] NM: Streisand: Energy Conservation for Thee but Not for Me

2001-06-23 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 23 Jun 01, at 1:34, MIKE SPITZER wrote: Streisand: Energy Conservation for Thee but Not for Me Typical hate propaganda from rightwing extremist 'news outlet' otherwise known as the 'Official Anal Oriface' of the Bush administration. Absolutely no substance, just Republican

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-23 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- A person on this list who had run out of posts for the day responded privately to something I said on the subject a day or two ago. I think some of what I said in private is worth repeating in public here. I’m not setting up a straw man here. This exchange really happened. I’m

[CTRL] Atrocity bodies come back to haunt Serbs (fwd)

2001-06-23 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Atrocity bodies come back to haunt Serbs http://www.guardian.co.uk/yugo/article/0,2763,510931,00.html A lorry load of the dead is just part of the evidence emerging of how Belgrade hid Kosovo's dead Special report: war crimes in the former Yugoslavia Nick Thorpe in Belgrade

[CTRL] Pink Pistols

2001-06-23 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- The mainstream press and the gay community have both treated the emergence of Pink Pistols, which was inspired by an article by Jonathan Rauch in the National Journal calling for just such an organization, as a curious new phenomenon. Who would have thought that an

Re: [CTRL] FW: The Rising Police State

2001-06-23 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Unfortunately the article is scary in that it implies that nothing can be done to stem the tide. Is that true? Yes. Most people either want a Police State or don' t really care. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a

[CTRL] Immigrant Crime

2001-06-23 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Immigrant Crime: Who Wants To Know? - David Walsh http://www.vdare.com/misc/walsh_interview.htm Immigrant Crime: Who Wants To Know? By David Walsh Recently, while exploring the incidence of immigrant crime and its impact on the US, I was

[CTRL] Mexcio: The Next Lebanon?

2001-06-23 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- ++ http://wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23345 Mexico: The next Lebanon? By Joseph Farah © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

[CTRL] (Fwd) Genoa G8 Summit-War

2001-06-23 Thread Theodor Parada, MD
-Caveat Lector- SATURDAY JUNE 23 2001 Anarchists plot medieval warfare at G8 summit FROM DAVID LISTER IN GENOA ANARCHISTS preparing to disrupt next month’s G8 summit in Genoa are threatening a seaborne assault of up to 4,000 protesters and a medieval-style attack using catapults and

Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible Liberals andPalestinianpropaganda. 1/2

2001-06-23 Thread goolie smith
-Caveat Lector- Let me get this straight first. Are you saying Ariel Sharon has NOT commited war crimes ? a simple answer of yes or no will suffice. From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL]

[CTRL] Fwd: Sharon - Accused of War Crimes - BBC Transcript

2001-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\© WEEKEND READING http://www.MiddleEast.Org News,

[CTRL] I Stole the Head of Prescott Bush! More Scary Skull and Bones Tales

2001-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- FROM: http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=2947 Click Here: A HREF=http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=2947;THE NEW YORK OBSERVER/A - I Stole the Head of Prescott Bush! More Scary Skull and Bones Tales by Ron Rosenbaum What if I told you I’d stolen the skull of

[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Riley column in Financial Times is about gold and GATA

2001-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
10:48a ET Saturday, June 23, 2001 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: Barry Riley yesterday devoted his column in The Financial Times, The Long View, to gold and GATA, and we couldn't be more grateful. We'll happily accept the gentle satire in exchange for Riley's again taking note of us and

Re: [CTRL] Psychologist, Ottawa admit giving LSD to teen inmate

2001-06-23 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find info on this topic. Sincerely, Neil Brick This may be heavy for survivors of abuse and mind control. excerpt from : http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?f=/stories/20010623/600017.html Psychologist, Ottawa admit giving LSD to teen

[CTRL] America - wadda country!

2001-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Ohmigosh! Somebody assaulted the Cookie Monster Saturday, June 23, 2001 A Maryland man punched and kicked Cookie Monster at a crowded Sesame Street theme park outside Philadelphia, after the character declined to pose for a photo with his 3-year-old

Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Nessie, Please stop posting such decent sensible opinions on this list. You are really upsetting the loonies, and the bigots. Please, do be more considerate. Joshua2 == Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- A

[CTRL] Anti-Echelon Virus

2001-06-23 Thread William Shannon
http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20010517S0005 Virus Targets NSA's Echelon While experts agree that the writers who recently crafted a variant of the ILOVEYOU Outlook worm may not spread infections very far, its reason for existence may get the attention of the National Security Agency.

[CTRL] Khobar Indictments Based On Torture

2001-06-23 Thread William Shannon
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2001/06/23/intern ational0538EDT0454.DTL Saudi human rights monitor: Khobar indictments based on torture TAREK AL-ISSAWI, Associated Press Writer  Saturday, June 23, 2001 (06-23) 03:29 PDT (AP) -- With BC-Khobar

[CTRL] Conservatives Use IRS To Attack Environmental Group

2001-06-23 Thread William Shannon
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/06/21/M N187865.DTL Attack on tax status of environment group Conservatives ask IRS for new ruling Glen Martin, Chronicle Environment Writer   Thursday, June 21, 2001 In a move that could hobble environmental

Re: [CTRL] Pink Pistols

2001-06-23 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Who would have thought that an organization sporting a pink triangle in its logo would take up the right-wing cause of gun ownership? Yet more proof that the left/right paradigm is insufficient in dimension to describe the political landscape. A

[CTRL] Palestinian polls.

2001-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Jerusalem Media Communication Center PUBLIC OPINION POLLS On Palestinian Attitudes Towards Politics Including the Current Intifada No.41 June 2001 Jerusalem Media Communication Center POB 25047, East Jerusalem Tel 02-5819777 Fax 02-5829534 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site:

Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible Liberals andPalestinianprop...

2001-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/21/2001 10:51:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you feel the cynicism? You bet I do. I can even hear Sharon's chortle because he knew what was going to happen. Prudy Then you

Re: [CTRL] If you believe embryos are humans...

2001-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- There is another way to get stem cells -- from cord blood. Cord blood is what's left in the umbilical cord AFTER the baby is born. No harm to baby or mother. It is not the best source because of limited reproduction-ability. Like analog

Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible LiberalsandPalestinianpropaganda. 1/2

2001-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- Let me get this straight first. Are you saying Ariel Sharon has NOT commited war crimes ? Were not talking about whether Sharon committed ANY war crimes. We are talking about the Sabra and Shatilla massacre. He did not commit THAT war

Re: [CTRL] If you believe embryos are humans...

2001-06-23 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- If I ever figure out how to get it to scan correctly, I'll send the ultrasound of my youngest, taken at 8 weeks. No mistaking him for any other creature than human. --- Nurev Ind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embryos are not humans. Or even fetuses. There is no moral issue.

[CTRL] FC: Canadian commodore keelhauled for off-duty Penthouse.com visits (fwd)

2001-06-23 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- This has created a stir in Canada. News coverage: Globe and Mail article Jun. 21, 2001 05:48 ET http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/Commentary/20010621/COWENT21.html Canadian Commodore faces net porn keelhauling Jun. 21, 2001 04:35 ET

[CTRL] An Unanswered Question

2001-06-23 Thread M. F. Abernathy
-Caveat Lector- I still haven't seen any information from any media source about *what* drug Andrea Yates was using to treat her depression? Was it Prozac? Was it Zoloft? Paxil? Why won't the media tell us what drug she was taking? Has anybody else gotten any word about what kind of medicine she

Re: [CTRL] An Unanswered Question

2001-06-23 Thread kl
-Caveat Lector- On 23 Jun 2001, at 11:51, M. F. Abernathy wrote: I still haven't seen any information from any media source about *what* drug Andrea Yates was using to treat her depression? Was it Prozac? Was it Zoloft? Paxil? Why won't the media tell us what drug she was taking? Has

[CTRL] Alabama Man Killed His Parents

2001-06-23 Thread M. F. Abernathy
-Caveat Lector- Before the murders, Franklin was being treated for attention deficit hyperactive disorder that his doctor said was accompanied by depression. [Was Jeffrey Franklin taking any psychiatric DRUGS?] == http://www.nandotimes.com/nation/story/31640p-534751c.html Alabama man

Re: [CTRL] An Unanswered Question

2001-06-23 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Has anybody else gotten any word about what kind of medicine she was taking? See: http://www.rense.com/general11/an.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] Pink Pistols

2001-06-23 Thread Michael Pugliese
-Caveat Lector- http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0025/features-berger.shtml http://www.lrp-cofi.org/PR/guncontrol.html Radio Free Dixie: Robert F. Williams and the Roots of Black Power Timothy B. Tyson Format: Paperback, 416pp. ISBN: 0807849235 Publisher: University of North Carolina

Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible Liberals

2001-06-23 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Let me get this straight first. Are you saying Ariel Sharon has NOT commited war crimes ? a simple answer of yes or no will suffice. Of course Sharon is not a war criminal... and Eichmann only made the trains run on time. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] Captain John Birch

2001-06-23 Thread Michael Pugliese
-Caveat Lector- As to Goldwater, Mr AuH20, see these two new books. Michael Pugliese Before the Storm Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus. By Rick Perlstein. http://www.booknotes.org/archive/bn060301.asp http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0122/perlstein.shtml Suburban

[CTRL] Sample Chapter for McGirr, L. Suburban Warriors The Origins of the New American

2001-06-23 Thread Michael Pugliese
-Caveat Lector- http://pup.princeton.edu/chapters/s7031.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid

Re: [CTRL] If you believe embryos are humans...

2001-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- If I ever figure out how to get it to scan correctly, I'll send the ultrasound of my youngest, taken at 8 weeks. No mistaking him for any other creature than human. He doesn't have lungs. He doesn't have other human organs. He doesn't have

[CTRL] Study links red meat to colon cancer

2001-06-23 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 22 Jun 01, at 21:04, Bill Howard wrote: Maybe it is a liberal/commie, econazi food, Bill? Could be, could be. My mother (Yes, I did have a mother.) told me when I was a young'n, real red blooded american men eat meat. Sometimes mothers make mistakes. --SW Study links

[CTRL] Secret Weapons Two Sisters' Terrifying True Story of Sex,, Spies and Sabotage

2001-06-23 Thread Michael Pugliese
-Caveat Lector- Barnes Noble.com - Secret Weapons : Two Sisters' Terrifying True Story of Sex, Spies and Sabotage From the Critics From Publisher's Weekly - Publishers Weekly Now in their late 30s, the Hersha sisters claim to have experienced chilling childhoods, recounted here by two

[CTRL] Cheney Lied About Iraq Dealings

2001-06-23 Thread William Shannon
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35751-2001Jun22.html Firm's Iraq Deals Greater Than Cheney Has Said Affiliates Had $73 Million in Contracts Former executives at the Halliburton subsidiaries said Cheney did not object to trading with Baghdad. By Colum Lynch Special to The

Re: [CTRL] Study links red meat to colon cancer

2001-06-23 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/23/01 1:16:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LYON, France (June 23, 2001 3:43 p.m. EDT) - Eating red meat may create about as much of a certain cancer-promoting chemical in the colon as smoking does, new research indicates. Its a lie! My mother was never

[CTRL] Military Involved In Up To 4 Different Chemtrail Programs

2001-06-23 Thread William Shannon
http://www.sightings.com/general11/chmmill.htm Military Said Behind Up To Four Different Chemtrail Programs EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT By Mike Blair 6-21-1 Just what exactly are those mysterious airplane vapor trails seen filling America's skies? A group of independent investigators may

Re: [CTRL] NM: Streisand: Energy Conservation for Thee but Not for Me

2001-06-23 Thread lassey
-Caveat Lector- Speaking of hate propaganda... On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:42:32 -0700 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- On 23 Jun 01, at 1:34, MIKE SPITZER wrote: Streisand: Energy Conservation for Thee but Not for Me Typical hate propaganda from rightwing extremist 'news

[CTRL] Killer Mom's Meds

2001-06-23 Thread William Shannon
http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/400167_drugs_22tex.AR.html Husband says woman changed medications 06/22/2001By Doug Swanson / The Dallas Morning News Andrea Yates had taken a number of anti-depressant and anti-psychotic medications since the birth of her fourth child in 1999, the

Re: [CTRL] Secret Weapons Two Sisters' Terrifying True Story of Sex,, Spies and Sabotage

2001-06-23 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- Sounds a lot like Candy Jones affair. There is a good article in the newest issue of Fortean Times which documents a lot of what Candy went through. Seems this program may have been tried on many people and been more widespread than initially believed. On Sat, 23 June