Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-05 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Richard makes some good points as far as it goes. My criticism is that his examples of fascism are too one dimensional. He basically relates to "bottom up" fascism. What we are experiencing now in the good ole USA is "top down"

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-04 Thread Gerry Forbes
-Caveat Lector- Howard Davis wrote: So now I do not have the single question of whether or not it happened, but now I have two questions, first: Why did the allies do nothing about it? After the above was released I expected a lot of discussion on the above question. I did not

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-03 Thread Source - Richard
AIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 12:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order -Caveat Lector- Wrong, wrong, wrong, Again you are falsely claiming credit for which you should not. The leaflet "A Nation Under Threat&qu

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-03 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: -Caveat Lector- What i find most interesting with this current debate is the distinct lack of knowledge being displayed across the CTRL community. In particular regarding the rise of fascism in Britain (i know for sure we have a large number of UK members

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-03 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- --- Richard makes some good points as far as it goes. My criticism is that his examples of fascism are too one dimensional. He basically relates to "bottom up" fascism. What we are experiencing now in the good ole USA is "top down" fascism. A long term plan through a

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- -- What is interesting is that European Fascists also claimed "victimhood". Derogation of Individual Freedom in the name of Victimhood is a time honored Fascist Rite. "Fascism ends in concentration camps, it does not begin with them". flw A friend of mine said

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread Source - Richard
search List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: flw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward "New Order" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion a

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread MARK
e thoughts, however, how DARE YOU claim them as your own. You are a Charlatan and a Fraud. M.A.R.K. -Original Message- From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 February 1999 14:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread Source - Richard
MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: 00c201be4eb2$fef273c0$6ccc0dd0@network Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:50:26 -0500 Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: flw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: R

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread MARK
o be taken. M.A.R.K. -Original Message- From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 February 1999 16:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order -Caveat Lector- M.A.R.K. again, in your desperation to make me look foolish, you trip

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread Source - Richard
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order -Caveat Lector- M.A.R.K. again, in your desperation to make me look foolish, you trip and fall upon your own dagger. It was me who wrote the 1992 leaflet 'A Nation Under Threat', me who published it and me who distribu

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- What i find most interesting with this current debate is the distinct lack of knowledge being displayed across the CTRL community. In particular regarding the rise of fascism in Britain (i know for sure we have a large number of UK members on this list including the outspoken

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/2/99 10:14:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Neo-Nazi revival is not just a mish-mash of 'fascist filth' and 'racist scum' (ANL newsletter, 1996), but a highly organised and well orchestrated attempt to sway majority opinion

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread Brown, Jeremy
". Richard -Original Message- From: MARK [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 12:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order -Caveat Lector- Wrong, wrong, wrong, Again you are falsely claiming credit

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Source - Richard wrote: I still believe many of you on the list have a lot of catching up to do regarding the current resurgance of the Neo-nazis and Fascist ideals amongst todays society, and hope that we can build a strong, meaningful and hopefully effective discussion

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/2/99 6:08:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And, I could find nothing in any of the Journals they carried about this revelation. The second question, of course, is why not? Something is very fishy about this whole thing. You would

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: -Caveat Lector- -- What is interesting is that European Fascists also claimed "victimhood". Derogation of Individual Freedom in the name of Victimhood is a time honored Fascist Rite. "Fascism ends in concentration camps, it does not begin with

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-02 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-31 16:42:46 EST, you write: But none of this is real democracy. The writer said so himself earlier.It's Fascism diguised as democracy. Fascism is Capitalism plus state power. Joshua2 I don't think so. Fascism = Communism = Statism. There is

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-02-01 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/1/99 4:46:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A friend of mine said the exact same thing to me today. He said that the only difference between the US today and Nazi Germany is that they got to wear "really cool uniforms" and we

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-01-31 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- But none of this is real democracy. The writer said so himself earlier.It's Fascism diguised as democracy. Fascism is Capitalism plus state power. Joshua2 I don't think so. Fascism = Communism = Statism. There is no effective difference between Fascism, Communism. They are

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-01-30 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- I think that this is a very informative post, but it comes to some phony conclusions. -- J2 - Mike Moxley wrote: -Caveat Lector- Fascism On The Move Toward "New Order" Madeleine Albright Makes it Plain On January 18th the San Francisco Chronicle

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-01-30 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/30/99 1:01:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that this is a very informative post, but it comes to some phony conclusions. -- J2 - Mike Moxley wrote: -Caveat Lector- Fascism On The Move

Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

1999-01-30 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Mike Moxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 2:50 AM Subject: Fascism On The Move Toward "New Order" Fascism On The Move Toward "New Order" Madeleine Albright Makes it Plain On January 18th the San Francisco Chronicle