Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 For instance, we have no proof that you are not also Bill Shannon or say
 Tenorlove?

 Your alter egos?

My altar boys...   ;-)


 After all Einstein had a theory and now the facts are beginning to show
 his theory may ot have been his at all but was stolen from an Italian,
 and some of the "theory" was not based on facts - and it is still
 therefore a theory.

The theory of evolution is still only a theory, too...but Darwin, Einstein, and anyone 
else who worked on
either evolutionary or relativity theory based their theories on years and decades of 
scientific research and
sound mathematical principles.

While you and your sub-personalities just throw out outrageous claims, and give 
nothing to back them up with.


 And please June, just the facts - no speculation but with just the
 facts, there is no conspiracy theory, is there.

Speculation is fine, as long as it is clearly labeled speculation.  I don't go around 
throwing outrageous
claims on this list which are just my personal opinion or belief, and expect people to 
accept it as 'fact'.


PS:   And that is the third time you have ended a sentence with a
preposition...now I will not mention your grammatical errors again -
seems unnecessarily crude.

At least I'm not compounding irrational rants with gross misspellings...


June

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 masonic oath.   He was a fine gentleman, and you know where he stood.
 He was a segregationist by choice, did not believe in mixing races for
 what the Pentagon called "abosrbing" the colored race, this man called
 as did the great Farrakhan, he called it the mongrelization of the
 races.

 He used the example of people buying all these expensive pure bred dogs
 and horses..boy don't let your dog get out and mate with a mutt, but
 okay for black and white to merge into  one essentially desroying each
 race.

Discussing dogs and horses in this context is like comparing apples and oranges.  
While selective breeding of
canines is purebreeding, selective breeding of horses is thoroughbreeding.

When you say that only whites should breed with whites and blacks breed with blacks, 
what you are arguing for
is not purebreeding, but thoroughbreeding -- which is inbreeding.  And inbreeding in 
homo sapiens does NOT
make for a better race -- ANY race -- but rather enhances and passes on defective 
genes to the expense of
'good' genes.


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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well June, have to ask king Solomon about that one for it is said he
loved many strange womenone had black furry legs and he also brought
apes to his kingdom - how is that for cross breeding purposes.

Now further June, this is a Conspiracy Theory listdo you know what a
theory is.   In 1968 when I applied for copyright on my first manuscript
they ask any new material?   So I replied it was a conspiracy
"theory".a new theory never before put into writing for it was tha
secret.   So I had the theory copyrighted.

This one intelligence agent was alarmed and was worried that when I
started putting names in this manuscript it would be dangerous - now
that was form of intimidation for in those days I thought a man like
Walter Lippman, let us say, could not be involved in conspiracy ..I
was wrong and when I received an item he wrote for Pittsburg Gazette by
reporter friend - I knew I was wrong, the guy was involved in murder not
by prophecy, but by propaganda firstcharacter assassination subtle,
some not so subtle..done all the time but the classic case of murder
by prophecy was setting loose an evil woman who claimed to be Catholic,
after the Kennedys - nobody but the chosen one was to be President that
year, but JFK made it.

Like Reagan won out - well we saw what happened to him.   George Wallace
was a threat, so they gunned him down toolittle programmed killers
operating like a killer K 9 C
Choir.

Manson in prison and friend to President Carter's nephew who later is
alleged to have died from Aids?   Willie Spann was his name and I
thought of that "Spahn" ranch were Manson hung out and poor Manson, he
killed nobody.but had two women in his cult who had connections to
top secret stuff through fathers/

And you sit there like some old hack putting people down on a
"conspiracy theory" list, and evidently you do not know what a theory
is.

Name one original theory you have contributed to this list; no you
attempt to ridicule and intimidate those who do have original thoughts
yet yo9u contribute nothing else.   Well Lizzie Borden maybe, but
nothing original.

So once I went after the Jewish Mob here trying to get connection to JFK
murder.ended up having to expose the truth in a black newspaper for
I was told knowing what I did would result in my being shot with a
45...Larry Flynt was shot with 45 and I thought of that at the time,
but bein surrounded with Judges and FBI retired, etc., I really felt no
danger for theywere just knocking off competition for drugs,
etc...murder by psychotic Mfia Hit Man who went to slammer.

Now this can be verified in this one black newspaper and the reporter
who wrote it and got a warning to layoff - seems Columbus Police were
concerned and wanted me to shut up and Amos Lynch obliged them - but we
got the storyout.an innocent man was in jail for murder, theyhad
murdered a black docor on Halloween night - and this Jewish mob had neo
nazi lierature stashed in basement of this restaurantn..nice people,
knew Klebold's grandfatherin like Flynn.


Saba



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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[snip]

 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another

[snip]

 3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or
 an art music theory
 4 a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis
 of action her method is based on the theory that all children want to
 learn b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or
 circumstances -- often used in the phrase in theory in theory, we have
 always advocated freedom for all
 5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body
 of principles offered to explain phenomena wave theory of light

I see that the majority of the definitions mention FACTS, and PLAUSIBLE principles.

If one wishes to present an outrageous claim without presenting such facts or 
plausible principles, then one
should clearly lable one's musings as conjecture and personal belief without fact or 
plausible principles to
back the claims up with.


June

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Aleisha Saba

"to back up claims with,"really June, there you go again -
ending a sentence with a preposition.

Set of facts in comparison to what June?   The theory as opposed to "a"
set of facts?   Then there is no such thing as a conspiracy, is there.

Try something else June;  this is a conspiracy theory list.

Forgive me for being so crude as to point out your grammatical errors,
but I have become accustomed to your ways.

The set of facts would be the case at hand; the theory would be a
solution using speculation when there is no proof.

For instance, we have no proof that you are not also Bill Shannon or say
Tenorlove?

Your alter egos?

After all Einstein had a theory and now the facts are beginning to show
his theory may ot have been his at all but was stolen from an Italian,
and some of the "theory" was not based on facts - and it is still
therefore a theory.

Recommend a good book to you June.buy it, it is called Einstein's
Theory Explained for Dumb Heads.then look up word theory again.

And please June, just the facts - no speculation but with just the
facts, there is no conspiracy theory, is there.

saba

PS:   And that is the third time you have ended a sentence with a
preposition...now I will not mention your grammatical errors again -
seems unnecessarily crude.

A. Saba
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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

Perhaps you do know undersand what I have.   It is a three column bible
code keyed to the murder of JFK, RFK, MLK (who played Moses0 and
sabatoge of Apollo..my brother in law ws at one Geneva Convention in
early 50 or late 50 period and this Gideon placed bible, a very special
bible like one JFK had with him on plane, was his or it ws my Uncle's
who was Secret Service

Phil worked with von Braun and when he became really upset was when I
said the Apollo was linked to bible calendar - he worked for VAndenberg
when he was CIA and was Joint Chief after going to War College.

CIA used old bible code - and it is noit that stupid numerical thing
that this Washington Pos reporter and a jewish agent wrotepure crap.

Acts 19 is always a good clue - for the date of Apollo disaster schedule
for reading - a clue is left along with Shadrach, Meschenk and Abenego.

Religion I assure you has NOTHING to do with this code other than at the
time o let J. Edar know who did what.my MI6 friend had heard of this
code, but never actually had copy of calendar/code...

Bible prophecy has NOTHING to do with it and never didit is all
political crap.   After all as the old King said in KIngs, did I not
tell you he would prophecy no good to me but only evil - and this is key
to psychological warfare.

This code and add a little subliminal music and you got it.Tribe of
Gad - the Overcomers.We Shall Overcome but then, tht prophe and
dreamer of dreams SHALL be put to death.

Any really high degree Mason know what I have is real and this is the
Mafia Mason FBI CIA calendar.for that stupid FBI Freeh just sent men
to England to show how worked for the idiot did not even know the Nazis
used it at Spandau and it ws given to them, by the good old OSS/CIA.

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

This devout Catholic said she read and recited the 23rd Psalm every
day.such a good Catholic?   For her information the 23rd psalm is
the 22nd psalm in the Catholic Douhey version.

J. Edgara zinged her - got on her Children to Children Board and zapped
her using money illegallyin his own quiet way, he got her and
with my filiong the soothsaying without a license chargae which hit all
over USA, she lost her divine status for she was being depicted as a
Divine Prophetess.

My sister - I would write to her and pHil was Thor Chief then and
finally when I said Apollo sabotaged he hit roof, said was danger, would
get into all kinds of trouble - so I did not speak to them for 2
yearshe was working with von Braun when he died...and I
tracked that watchword calendar to Spandau where the7 nazis were
held...Russian guard took it away/.

Freedom of Information Act has where Dixon worked for FBI; this is not
true, for J. Edgar told his men that I was getting stuff on my own, and
I was clearedfor I had a watch on me.

Someone put out the stuff on the web about Dixon...she was psuedo
political religiouns propandist and Teddy Kennedy when I got through
with that old bat, Teddy notified her boss, King Syndicate/Hearst to
keep his name and his family's name OUT of her crap.

I nailed her.she kept her money, but lost her divine status and had
the astrologers then down on hr.   She sent me her two booksin the
one she ccalled the Kennedy Brothers the Sons of Job...

Long time from Spring and its kiss of death to November Kiss of
Deathroses dying and flowers cut down

This is heavy Mafia stuff and Jewish Mafia was behind murder of our
President and near death of Reagan.a rose by any other name.

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 This devout Catholic said she read and recited the 23rd Psalm every
 day.such a good Catholic?   For her information the 23rd psalm is
 the 22nd psalm in the Catholic Douhey version.

So how do you know she wasn't reciting the psalm numbered 23 in the 'Catholic Douhey' 
version?  ;-)


 J. Edgara zinged her

Who is J. Edgara?  Did he ever play with Frank Zappa?


 My sister - I would write to her and pHil was Thor Chief then and
 finally when I said Apollo sabotaged he hit roof, said was danger, would
 get into all kinds of trouble - so I did not speak to them for 2
 yearshe was working with von Braun when he died...and I
 tracked that watchword calendar to Spandau where the7 nazis were
 held...Russian guard took it away/.

Okay, "Aleisha"...you claim to have this unfailing tool that prophecizes the 
future...but you only tell us of
things in the past you claim it predicted.

Give us something it says is going to happen in the near future, so you can prove to 
us how accurate this
thing is.


June

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

First of all June, this bible code has nothing to do with prophecy -
that is why I called my manuscript Premeditated Murder by Prophecy for
the word prophecy equates to propaganda.

Second Dixon sent me her two books only she sent them to my boss' house
for some strange reason she knew who he was at the time and this was
prior to me working with my MI6 friendtwice big super rich came to
my boss to drop my charges against her which I would not do.   She had a
Cult.

Third J. Edgar Hoover got on her board and suddenly she was caught with
hand in Children to Children Foundation Money and got further black mark
against her.

This is a bible code/communication - so get a masonic bible and look at
the calendar in the blue bible, not the same one though - but similar to
that.

When this bible goes into full speed which it is now, you will see where
the assassins have a lot of fun leaving a calling card in the bible.

If yoiu want to read of this code read Mark Lane's book Executive
Action, for he took my code, plaguiarized it, and used it - when I ws
going to sue him our law office blew up and my attorney bowed out for
some strange reason.  Coincidence, I do not know; it made 1B of Columbus
Dispatch - and wouldn't you know, it ws April.

Jimmy Hoffa's family knew what this code was for it is the code of the
underworld - Mafia stuff, but then get into the Mafia factors and you
come up with many different colors and none of them good.

For a little clue as to what a secret society is, find a CIA friend and
perhaps they will give you a clue..or do you know any old line?

Or hook up to an MI6 as I did.they might give you a clue.

Go back into Lincoln archives and see the connections to this
assassination for these people seem to almost ressurect from time to
time.

Read Roman's 12 for clue to what a secret society is, and imagine where
Dixon took name of her book Gift of Prophecy 

Then call Ted Kennedy and ask for copy of the news item where he wrote
to tell Dixon's boss to layoff his family.

Suddenly her books were taken out of religious area and put in with
books on occult...she was a Tokyo Rose of Washington Square and
nobody had the guts to go after her while some actually thought she was
a prophetess.

Soas for the 23rd psalm, in the book she sent me with a prayer card,
Catholic prayer card, she tells of reading the 23rd psalm every day, the
Lord is my Shepard.


By the way June, perhaps with your keen knowledge in these areas, tell
me what you think two words meant which were written on Song of Solomon
"key experiment", and a passagae from Luke "and their were shepards
keeping watch over their flock by night".

Now the bible does not say what watch is was precisely, but it was in
the nightboy June you are not too bright, are you.

I am not a soothsayer and when the time comes, you will know when we
have three Presidents in 10 years..sort of a third man in.

The bible is the master plan and what these people do with it has
NOTHING to do with religion, before all secrets are revealed in the
bible for nearly every secret society from the Knighs of Malta to
Knights Templar to the Ku Klux Klan (the REAL Klan) evolve about it.

Why do you think the Russians stole KKK rituals for use with Walker
spies?Well they dare not use a masonic temple, and KKK rituals are
just old southern mason rituals.my two Uncles were Klansmen, Masons,
one secret service, and the other naval intelligence - were not rich
men, just patriotic men who loved their country.

By the way a week before my uncle died, he said "do not eat the bread,
it is poisoned"and boy in Mexico, people were poisoned like a
passover, for the bread had been poisoned.

So June I had the privilege to work with people who understood me - MI6
and trained by my hero Ian Fleming, is how high I went to find someone
who cared even though they wre involved in MKUltra, as was my brother in
law, that ws just ESP crap I know now.

do you own damn homework June...maybe you should go out more, and
bet you look under your bed every night and find nothing.

Me make predicitons?   Already tossed out one good one, to watch that
second man the VP candidate, for that man will be President before first
term upand Baby Bush well he has already been nearly run
down with a dump truck?

All is ready - all the pieces are on the boardbut the Tarot Card
Assassins live.as Squaky Frome said "I am going to save the Red
Woods"..she wrote to Manson and then went after Ford with a gun,
fortunately, she did not know how to use.but, his brother died on a
lonely road all alone and his name too, was Leslie KingJohn D.
Rockefeller died like that.

This is corrupt organized crime taking over our government...after
all, if they can murder a President you think they give a crap about
you?

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 9/7/00 7:53:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Okay, "Aleisha"...you claim to have this unfailing tool that prophecizes
the future...but you only tell us of
 things in the past you claim it predicted.

 Give us something it says is going to happen in the near future, so you can
prove to us how accurate this
 thing is. 


I second this fair request.
It's a tough test and frauds will fail...will you accept the challenge?
And if you get a chance, can you tell me if the Bears will cover the spread
on Sunday? ;-)

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 First of all June, this bible code has nothing to do with prophecy -
 that is why I called my manuscript Premeditated Murder by Prophecy for
 the word prophecy equates to propaganda.

You've claimed that this book/code of yours foretold the Apollo and Challenger 
disasters, the RFK and MLM
assassinations, and Princess Diana's death...

So tell us something it foretells for the near future...


 If yoiu want to read of this code read Mark Lane's book Executive
 Action, for he took my code, plaguiarized it, and used it

Ah, well, what did you expect from one of Jim Jones' henchman?


 By the way June, perhaps with your keen knowledge in these areas, tell
 me what you think two words meant which were written on Song of Solomon
 "key experiment", and a passagae from Luke "and their were shepards
 keeping watch over their flock by night".

Well, for one thing, in my Bible it says "and THERE were shepherds keeping watch..."


 Now the bible does not say what watch is was precisely,

Perhaps it was a Timex, perhaps a Bulova...


but it was in the night...

The watch must have had an Indiglo face...


.boy June you are not too bright, are you.

No, but my watch is...


 I am not a soothsayer and when the time comes, you will know when we
 have three Presidents in 10 years..sort of a third man in.

That's no soothsaying...it's very easy to have 3 presidents in office in one decade.

Happened in the 1960's and the 1970's.


 By the way a week before my uncle died, he said "do not eat the bread,
 it is poisoned"...

He wasn't related to Lizzie Borden, was he?


June

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread NSA

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 Read Roman's 12 for clue to what a secret society is, and imagine where
 Dixon took name of her book Gift of Prophecy 

OK! here (below) is Romans chapter 12 from the KJV bible.

I for one have read it, and its seems quite straightforward, but your post
is very esoteric and cryptic.

So, would you do me a favour and interpret the "secret society" meaning of
it please.

I mean, i do somehow manage to "understand" in very BROAD sense, what you
are trying to say ... but WHY do you need to be so CRYPTIC about it?

Why not just spill the beans in Mr and Mrss EVERYDAY lingo?

Surely it is not out of any fear of "revealing" your message, because, if
the HIGH CABAL people who you are possibly apprehensive of, read your stuff,
they will understand EVEN your CRYPTIC messages anyway, so why not just
speak plain ENGLISH, and let us plebes in on WHAT it IS exactly that you are
trying to say Aleisha!!!???   Thankx!

1 ¶ Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God,
and Sosthenes our brother,
2  Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified
in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon
the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
3  Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ.
4  I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given
you by Jesus Christ;
5  That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all
knowledge;
6  Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
7  So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord
Jesus Christ:
8  Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the
day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9  God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son
Jesus Christ our Lord.
10 ¶ Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that
ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but
that  ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same
judgment.
11  For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are
of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12  Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of
Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13  Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in
the name of Paul?
14 ¶ I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15  Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16  And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not
whether I baptized any other.
17 ¶ For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with
wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18  For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but
unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19  For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring
to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20  Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this
world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21  For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it
pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22  For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23  But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto
the Greeks foolishness;
24  But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power
of God, and the wisdom of God.
25  Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of
God is stronger than men.
26  For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the
flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the
wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the
things which are mighty;
28  And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God
chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29  That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30  But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom,
and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31  That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the
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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

Okay, NSA - think you pulled up Corinthians or somethingbut here is
Romans 12 which is the initiation ritual for the Ku Klux Klan.some
say you begin to understand the bible in degrees, but keep in mind the
Ku Klux Klan is just Souhern Masonsto each his own - they were
strictly a protective order  it was Nahan Bedford Forrest when they
became infiltrated, who ordered them to disband.

Many distinguished men were Klansmen..you do ot see the real Klan
and this is why they are the invisible empire - and I mean, the real
Klan.

I have known two Grand Dragons and the one I really laid out for I
thought it was the KKK that broke into my home and wrecked it - I was
wrong.  This fine gentleman came to my home and did some repairs,
brought me records on this Illimunati and it matched up to my bible
codethis man would never reveal a secret and would never break his
masonic oath.   He was a fine gentleman, and you know where he stood.
He was a segregationist by choice, did not believe in mixing races for
what the Pentagon called "abosrbing" the colored race, this man called
as did the great Farrakhan, he called it the mongrelization of the
races.

He used the example of people buying all these expensive pure bred dogs
and horses..boy don't let your dog get out and mate with a mutt, but
okay for black and white to merge into  one essentially desroying each
race.

There are numerous KKK's but the one thing I still wonder about, what ws
Jewish Mafia here doing with neo nazi literature - they murdered a black
doctor, got caught, but not before the police and these people framed a
young innocent black.this doctor then was kicked out of his
synagogue laterreally a bad boy, and into gunsand he was going
to be made a Federal Marshall?

So any high degree Mason can tell who does what; for instance Alan
Pinkerton ws member of the old Chartist party..he formed the first
Secret Service with assistance of British Intelligence as I
recall.had a guy by name of Raven who knew all the handshakes, and
where bodies buried.

This one mason toldl me the handshake was so they could tell who was
what in the darkboy what a bunch.

So if you read htis, for this is Romans 12 - you see the secret society,
and you are told NOT to take the law into your own hands...Romans 13
think it is, where one secret message was delivered to my old friend
"they seek to kill me" and this was old line CIA on the run for someone
ws out to kill him  and he was a Roumanian Agenthad been at Beverly
Hills in Cincinnati during the fire...many people died.but he
escaped so whatever happened to him, I do not know..but I do not
believe he realized that new line KGB and merged with new line CIA and
my friend said he knew too much.

Very strange world..anyway here is Romans 12...no sounding
boards here, but a body of people.a membership...vengance is
mine, so saith the Lord.A mafiaso when he is going to do somebody
in, is very very nice to themand boy I had that routine pulled on me
enough, even to this one idiot bringing me a big apple.strange
world, oh so secret.and Crowleybroke into secret socieies using his
brain..but for some reason someone wanted me to find this bible code
and even those old witches at House of Sun used telephathy to send
messages, or I was they said, a receiver.
Elvis Presley also was a receiver and when hat guy died, he had 5 inch
karate chop to back of neck..autopsy report disappeared.

Saba

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1: I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God,
that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto
God, which is your reasonable service.
2: And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the
renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and
acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3: For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is
among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think;
but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the
measure of faith.
4: For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the
same office:
5: So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one
of another.
6: Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to
us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of
faith;
7: Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on
teaching;
8: Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it
with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy,
with cheerfulness.
9: Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave
to that which is 

Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-06 Thread NSA

Aleisha - dotty Diana died because she was a silly twat and reckless and
risque with not only her own life but with those in her company on the night
of her death.

As to the Bible, it is NOT a pile of esoteric mumjo jumbo that some would
have it be with nonsensical codes and so forth.

The bulk of its prophecies and sayings are clear to average reader. Some
sections, like Revelation, were written using symbols in order to protect
its messege and hearers from the vicious persectution of Christians by the
Roman State, and certain of the fanatical Jewish priests.

Most of the other prophecies are discerned if the authentic reader wishes to
dig into them and learn. The book of Daniel for instance, predicted not only
the demise of the most powerful and ruling kingdom of the day, that was
invisaged
would rule forver, ie Babylon, but also forcast the rise of susequent
kingdoms,
even naming them prior to their rise, ie Medo Persia and Grecia.

Christ also predicted the destruction of Jerusalem, and in this, he also
dualy described what the "end of the world" would be like.

In fact there are scores of bible prohecies which were fulfilled. The
purpose of biblical prohecy is not make wo/men tin prophets, but to uplift
God in every prohpecy.

Here's a few sites on biblical prophecy: as always "Caveat Lector" and check
out things for yourself!

http://www.historicist.com/

http://www.tagnet.org/anotherviewpoint/Daniel/

http://home.i-plus.net/thorpe/trib/SITES.HTM

http://home.integrityonline.com/bereanbeacon/roots.htm

Rule of thumb - stray not too close to the more sensationalistic nonsense!

Along with with true prohpecy, there are of course "FASLE PROPHETS" and
charltans.  Jesus Christ also warned of these, and that there would be many
of such - our times testify to his prediction.

BTW - I am casually curious on your take of false "profitess" Dixon - have
you something substantive that has linked her to the CIA as you have
suggested?  As far as i recall, having looked at her a long time ago - she
appeared to be an agent of the Vatican, then again the Vatican/Nazi/CIA
cabal has been around for a while?




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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum


 This is interesting item; however, the bible code is a clue to the
 murder of the little Princess.

 First, someone had their hooks into the Princes of Wales - she was under
 the influence of drugs and he IQ was that of the kindergarten kids sh
 taught - but she was pretty and what a princess should be, I guess.

 So those familiar with this bible code for there is one on this list who
 is - first Diana was a Lady in Waiting...a Prince usually chooses from
 his ladies in waiting, and even little Snow Whitei was a real princess
 waiting for Prince CHARMING.or Charlels, and he is short, for a
 would be King.

 So this is the Immanual Conspiracy;  the marriage of the Princess of
 Wales to the son o an Egyptian.Isaiah 7 tells part of the story for
 the store line is, the Princess WAS pregnant..add that to Acts 19
 and this thing is fascinating.

 Now her former mother in law, the Qeen, would no have sent out the
 killers - but a guy like Tony Blair ould in cahoots with Clinton - I saw
 teir faces as JFK Jr. was obviously repelled by their mere smiles like
 Cheshire Cats..both ae dead now, the little Princess and the young
 Prince.but JFK Jr. had no weakness and once even refushed an
 honorary doctorate because he said "I have done nothing to earan
 it".both the Princess and JFK, Jr. were ready to make their major
 move in life.

 Legends wil go forever about Diana, whom they said the Queen despised -
 and that is not true.
 They would have put the little Princess in the Sunnyside Farm where Jack
 the Ripper was sent, for you do not mess around with Mother of all Kings
 for England..

 The little Princess' psychic, the one she visited was on the air
 recently - she looked like a prostitute and had the nose and face of
 Jean Dixon..Acts 16 is the sign of the gainsaying woman, seller of
 purplemany demons..this woman is nothing more than a spy, but
 whose spy is she?   Like Jean Dixon, she was a gypsy, not a Roman
 Catholic as she claimed = for she used a King James Bible - the hated
 King James Bible that most good catholics shun.

 Key to little princess murder is the Immanual Prophecy..timed, land
 of milk and honey and to live in the house of the Duke and Dutchess of
 Windsor and the linking of a descendent of ancient Pharaoh and I
 say, that guy in the White Fiat is either dead or in some kind of
 protection program.

 NOTE:   Tabloids - often have intelligence agents on payroll...who
 the hell would have ver nown much about the Princess and Prince, without
 the tabloids.like two edged sword, these Tabloids cut both
 ways

Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-05 Thread Aleisha Saba

This is interesting item; however, the bible code is a clue to the
murder of the little Princess.

First, someone had their hooks into the Princes of Wales - she was under
the influence of drugs and he IQ was that of the kindergarten kids sh
taught - but she was pretty and what a princess should be, I guess.

So those familiar with this bible code for there is one on this list who
is - first Diana was a Lady in Waiting...a Prince usually chooses from
his ladies in waiting, and even little Snow Whitei was a real princess
waiting for Prince CHARMING.or Charlels, and he is short, for a
would be King.

So this is the Immanual Conspiracy;  the marriage of the Princess of
Wales to the son o an Egyptian.Isaiah 7 tells part of the story for
the store line is, the Princess WAS pregnant..add that to Acts 19
and this thing is fascinating.

Now her former mother in law, the Qeen, would no have sent out the
killers - but a guy like Tony Blair ould in cahoots with Clinton - I saw
teir faces as JFK Jr. was obviously repelled by their mere smiles like
Cheshire Cats..both ae dead now, the little Princess and the young
Prince.but JFK Jr. had no weakness and once even refushed an
honorary doctorate because he said "I have done nothing to earan
it".both the Princess and JFK, Jr. were ready to make their major
move in life.

Legends wil go forever about Diana, whom they said the Queen despised -
and that is not true.
They would have put the little Princess in the Sunnyside Farm where Jack
the Ripper was sent, for you do not mess around with Mother of all Kings
for England..

The little Princess' psychic, the one she visited was on the air
recently - she looked like a prostitute and had the nose and face of
Jean Dixon..Acts 16 is the sign of the gainsaying woman, seller of
purplemany demons..this woman is nothing more than a spy, but
whose spy is she?   Like Jean Dixon, she was a gypsy, not a Roman
Catholic as she claimed = for she used a King James Bible - the hated
King James Bible that most good catholics shun.

Key to little princess murder is the Immanual Prophecy..timed, land
of milk and honey and to live in the house of the Duke and Dutchess of
Windsor and the linking of a descendent of ancient Pharaoh and I
say, that guy in the White Fiat is either dead or in some kind of
protection program.

NOTE:   Tabloids - often have intelligence agents on payroll...who
the hell would have ver nown much about the Princess and Prince, without
the tabloids.like two edged sword, these Tabloids cut both
ways.note Russian spy Pope ???   Wonder if he is relation to Bob
Pope, CIA who headed up National Enquirer in 70 80 perioid, my old
friend did not like that guy and he lived right across from George
DeMorenschild - and that guy never did get to Court on time

Note Isaiah mentions a confederacy..this is interpreted to mean
conspiracy  imagine the King of England with a brother through
the mother - half arab, half English...while Diana had more claim to
that throne in England than does the present Queen.

The story could have had a happy ending, but most important - who got
the little Princess hooked on drugs?   Sarah Ferguson was one who led
her down primrose path..stray cats do that.

Acts 19 and Acts 16 big clues - for those two would have upsent the
balance of power in the laughingly called Free World?

JFK Jr and Princess took limelite away from Blair and Clinton
..charisma, something money cannot buy - you got it or youdo not
have itand Clinton and Blair ain't got it

There was a conspiriacy midst the prophets.and that old bat on TV
was part of it.the doctor who happened along with the little black
bag, a dead man driving a car like Henri Paul alleged to be full of
carbon monoxide and booze..dead man driving.somewhere in Paris
that night was a drunk who maybe died in a garage..and somebody
switched blood samples, etc., to st up Henri . that guy was a pro
and he was cremated so quick was he not?

Look how Fayed now is being slandered and libeled by press, even the
sleaze Geraldo...same assassins who got JFK, the same secret
society, got the little Princess.

Think Fayed knows meaning of Avengrs of blood royal...have a feeling
this man will avenge the death of his son - who also produced the movie
Chariots of Fire, the name of which was taken right out of the bible.

So much for As the Stomach Turns and the little Princess of Wales who
had she not been murdered, would have ended up at Sunnyside Insane
Asylumn, for someone had her hooked on drugs.

A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-05 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 This is interesting item; however, the bible code is a clue to the
 murder of the little Princess.

The bible code, like Nostradamus' quatrains, are crap.

Amazing how both systems 'prove' to be accurate systems of prophecies, but only AFTER 
an event has occured.  I
challenge anyone to show where either system accurately proved anything BEFORE THE 
FACT...

Come on...show us a bible code, or a Nostradamus quatrain, that is predicting 
something yet to come, so we can
witness the foretold event unfolding at the predicted time...


 The story could have had a happy ending, but most important - who got
 the little Princess hooked on drugs?   Sarah Ferguson was one who led
 her down primrose path..stray cats do that.

Sarah Ferguson has been a stay-at-home mom to her two daughters, writing children's 
books and becoming Weight
Watchers' spokesperson.  She has never been the bar-hopping, disco diva Diana was.  IF 
Diana was on drugs, no
one has to look any further than her fellow bar flies and NOT to Sarah Ferguson...

"Fergie" is the only one of the bunch who has actually done something constructive 
with her life.


 Think Fayed knows meaning of Avengrs of blood royal...have a feeling
 this man will avenge the death of his son - who also produced the movie
 Chariots of Fire, the name of which was taken right out of the bible.

Of course it was.  Have you actually WATCHED the movie?  One of the main characters 
actually recites the Bible
passage at the end of the movie...


June

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Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum

2000-09-05 Thread Aleisha Saba

By the way JuneChariots of Fire was recited at Challenger
victims funeral...when I told John Glenn of this code he knew what
it wasnow that guy was a boy scout,  was with RFK when he was gunned
down and he reminded me of that - he is a short man who stands tall
above many taller men.

Teddy Kennedy knows what this calendnar code is and any high degree
person in intelliigence does too.like my brother in law who worked
for CIA Vandenberg and was on Joint Chief of Staff under him...he
knew what this code/calendar was - it is something that is never
mentioned, out loud.

But I am not sworn to secrecy and I pick up stuff on my own;  J. Edgar
Hoover told Frank Fitzsimmons and these two hoodlums he sent to our demo
meeting, that "I was picking the stuff up on my own",,,and then in
his own quiet way, he zinged Dixon .a phoney soothsayer and
political propagandist, who searched her scriptures daily.

Nostradamus was a lot of crap..but Hitler and Churchill used his
crap for this is what propaganda is.

I worry about you June...you seem obsessed with tearing down the
work and research of others, and you conttribute nothing.

Let us say Dodi Fayed, was in the Family - readl Black Hand stuff, and
anyone in on the murder of that man will sincerely regret it.

Big deck of cards Juneand the war is on.

A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy

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