On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 06:10:28PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Hi,
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why anybody would use it voluntarily, given that
it's I/O is
On May 10 17:17, Len Giambrone wrote:
This time with a subject; apologies if the first one gets through.
We use windows native jam which spawns any number of cmd, cygwin, or studio
processes.
If we spawn it from a Cygwin terminal that doesn't have CYGWIN=tty set, we
get:
I assume that
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 18:34, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On May 10 17:17, Len Giambrone wrote:
We use windows native jam which spawns any number of cmd, cygwin, or studio
processes.
If we spawn it from a Cygwin terminal that doesn't have CYGWIN=tty set, we
get:
I assume that most people,
On 5/11/2011 2:34 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Kind of weird. The difference is that in tty mode the stdio handles are
pipes, while in the notty case the stdio handles are console handles.
Usually native Windows applications shouldn't see a difference and even
work *better* in notty mode.
One
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:02:40AM -0400, Edward Lam wrote:
On 5/11/2011 2:34 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Kind of weird. The difference is that in tty mode the stdio handles are
pipes, while in the notty case the stdio handles are console handles.
Usually native Windows applications shouldn't
On 11 May 2011 16:02, Edward Lam wrote:
On 5/11/2011 2:34 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Kind of weird. The difference is that in tty mode the stdio handles are
pipes, while in the notty case the stdio handles are console handles.
Usually native Windows applications shouldn't see a difference
On 5/11/2011 11:02 AM, Edward Lam wrote:
So this brings us to Cygwin. When we spawn such a Windows mode app from
Cygwin, the method I describe above fails. The call to
_open_osfhandle(info.hStdOutput, _O_TEXT) returns with an error value of
-1. This is likely why jam reports the handle is
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Hi,
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why anybody would use it voluntarily, given that
it's I/O is
On May 9 18:36, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
Corinna Vinschen writes:
On May 9 17:21, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
Corinna Vinschen writes:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I am one such.
On May 10 10:29, Csaba Raduly wrote:
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Hi,
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why anybody would
Corinna Vinschen sent the following at Monday, May 09, 2011 12:10 PM
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I've been using it for so long that I do not remember why - probably
because I thought it was
Christopher wrote:
Ok, it sounds like there is no need whatsoever to set CYGWIN=tty with
brltty. That is good news.
According to what Ken wrote, emacs won't work as well. This would be very
distressing, though I haven't verified it personally.
I'd be pretty surprised if it was the case
Samuel,
On May 9 22:23, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Christopher Faylor, le Mon 09 May 2011 16:05:24 -0400, a écrit :
Has anyone tried running brltty without setting CYGWIN=tty?
I never set the CYGWIN variable nowadays, actually, and brltty works
fine in that case.
do you happen to know why
On 09-05-2011 18:10, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I have, perhaps unnecessarily, tty defined (as well as ntsec).
My typical use of cygwin involves opening a cygwin window
On 5/10/2011 09:50, Bernhard Ege wrote:
I generelly use command line editing a lot (is tty necessary for that?).
General command line usage doesn't require the setting. If in doubt
though, remove the setting and try things out for a bit. You'll
probably find that nothing changes for your
On 10 May 2011 15:08, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Samuel,
On May 9 22:23, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Christopher Faylor, le Mon 09 May 2011 16:05:24 -0400, a écrit :
Has anyone tried running brltty without setting CYGWIN=tty?
I never set the CYGWIN variable nowadays, actually, and brltty works
On 5/10/2011 9:39 AM, Lee Maschmeyer wrote:
Just now. So far I haven't noticed any problems but this is even less
significant. I guess notty was meant to say that tty should not be
mentioned at all in the $CYGWIN variable. I'll remove it and see what
happens.
Maybe it's not clear, but most
There is no need for CYGWIN=tty as far as my use of brltty is concerned. I
can still run c:\cygwin\cygwin.bat having taken out the tty from the CYGWIN
var. If I discover massive emacs malfunctions I can always defect to the vim
camp. :-)
I'm curious why the tty command in mintty reports
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 09:37:43AM -0400, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
wrote:
Corinna Vinschen sent the following at Monday, May 09, 2011 12:10 PM
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I've been using it
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 01:18:47PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
starting in a console window. So, yes, you'll see /dev/ttyN as the
controlling terminal in a tty application.
pty/tty
cgf
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FAQ:
This time with a subject; apologies if the first one gets through.
We use windows native jam which spawns any number of cmd, cygwin, or studio
processes.
If we spawn it from a Cygwin terminal that doesn't have CYGWIN=tty set, we get:
The handle is invalid.
Every time output goes to the screen.
Christopher Faylor sent the following at Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:19 PM
If we changed the /dev/console to /dev/consN (where N is a unique number
for each console window) would that address your use case?
Yes, it works for me if there would be a reasonably small (preferably
single digit) number in
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 06:11:35PM -0400, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
wrote:
Christopher Faylor sent the following at Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:19 PM
If we changed the /dev/console to /dev/consN (where N is a unique number
for each console window) would that address your use case?
Yes, it
Corinna Vinschen writes:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I am one such.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why anybody would use it voluntarily, given that
it's I/O is extremly slow, compared
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
/usr/share/doc/screen/README.Cygwin says:
In a DOS console, screen works, but in order to be able to reattach
detached sessions, you must set tty in the CYGWIN
On May 9 17:21, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
Corinna Vinschen writes:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I am one such.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why anybody would use it
On 5/9/2011 12:10 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I'm not but there's various references to it it the web about it being
requires for Emacs. eg.
On 5/9/2011 12:39 PM, Edward Lam wrote:
On 5/9/2011 12:10 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I'm not but there's various references to it it the web about it being
requires for
Corinna Vinschen writes:
On May 9 17:21, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
Corinna Vinschen writes:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I am one such.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why
Hi all,
At the risk of exciting the contempt avalanche all too pervasive in this
list (never at any time by Corinna--THANKS):
I'm not sure I understand the difference between the DOS console and the
Windows console. And, truth to tell, I've been around here for a good long
time and never
Lee Maschmeyer, le Mon 09 May 2011 13:40:57 -0400, a écrit :
And, truth to tell, I've been around here for a good long time and
never heard of CYGWIN=notty.
As I understand it, notty is already the default, so unless you have an
explicit CYGWIN=tty, it's already notty.
brltty does not touch at
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 12:39:47PM -0400, Edward Lam wrote:
On 5/9/2011 12:10 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I'm not but there's various references to it it the web about it
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 07:52:05PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Lee Maschmeyer, le Mon 09 May 2011 13:40:57 -0400, a ?crit :
And, truth to tell, I've been around here for a good long time and
never heard of CYGWIN=notty.
As I understand it, notty is already the default, so unless you have an
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 04:00:25PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 12:39:47PM -0400, Edward Lam wrote:
On 5/9/2011 12:10 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and
Christopher Faylor, le Mon 09 May 2011 16:05:24 -0400, a écrit :
Has anyone tried running brltty without setting CYGWIN=tty?
I never set the CYGWIN variable nowadays, actually, and brltty works
fine in that case.
Samuel
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FAQ:
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 18:10:28 +0200
From: corinna
Subject: Who's using CYGWIN=tty and why?
Hi,
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why anybody would use it
On 5/9/2011 16:14, Karl M wrote:
I did try rxvt and didn't like the way it looked, so I stayed with a console
window and CYGWIN=tty.
Hi, Karl. Have you tried mintty yet? If looks are what turned you away
from rxvt, I think you'll like mintty much more.
-Jeremy
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Am 09.05.2011 18:10, schrieb Corinna Vinschen:
Hi,
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why anybody would use it voluntarily, given that
it's I/O is extremly slow,
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:27:08AM +0200, Thomas Wolff wrote:
Am 09.05.2011 18:10, schrieb Corinna Vinschen:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure why anybody would use
On 5/9/11, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On May 9 17:21, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
Corinna Vinschen writes:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
I am one such.
Here's why we ask:
We are both not sure
On 09/05/2011 12:10, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
- I am not a Cygwin Power User, and I am not sure to understand
you well.
- If you talk about the console that is
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