On Wed, 28 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I ran into a problem with the cygwin.bat script when I downloaded files
from an FTP mirror and installed them locally:
C:\cygwin\etc\setup\ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin
Please note that the hex escapes in the path were
I've been away for a while; my computer mashed out and at the worst moment
possible our mail server broke down...B
Anyway back on topic, I didn't back-up my build tree's, only my CVS repo's
(which contain most of my changes to the stock libxml2(-2.5.6)) so I had to
start again on my
Sorry forgot the cygcheck and the fact that I have bootstrapped and
re-libtoolised.. :-)
Elfyn
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I would like to contribute a Cygwin package for GNU Octave
(www.octave.org).
To start, I propose two packages, one with the Octave interpreter,
shared libraries, and other files necessary to run Octave and another
with the the header files and scripts necessary to compile and link
user-supplied
I have used octave under cygwin for a few years, so this gets
my vote, and I would be happy to download and test the package.
I regularly build and test fortran LAPACK and BLAS on cygwin, as
part of the gcc regression testing. I haven't tried to
build ATLAS or fftw, and I failed to build
Elfyn McBratney wrote:
I'm using the -devel autoconf, automake and libtool (2.57, 1.7.3 and
1.5, respectively) with `/usr/autotool/devel/bin' prepended to my PATH
environment variable and M4PATH env set to
`/usr/autotool/devel/share/autoconf' building and targetting
i686-pc-cygwin . It
[ Moving this over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to hunt for some libx* testers ;-) ]
Make sure that the LDFLAGS for the library, in the Makefile.am,
include the -no-undefined flag.
e.g.:
libfoo_la_LDFLAGS = -version-info 1:0:1 -no-undefined
(I'm not sure, but I *think* this thread belongs on the main
Earle,
The normal path for any Cygwin-related patches it that developers send
them to me, I apply them to my local tree, I make a test release, I ball
the fixes up and send them to patches at XFree86, Alan Hourihane picks
up whatever I send him and commits it. XFree86's Bugzilla was just
Panos,
I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you trying to use
XFree86 on Cygwin? If not, you have the wrong mailing list (use
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead).
If you do need help installing and running Cygwin/XFree86, please see:
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On Wed, 28 May 2003, Colin Harrison wrote:
File should open in WordPad etc.
What about posting the images as gif, png or jpg or even better,
just posting a link to the image?
bye
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Howdy Colin,
At 03:21 PM 5/28/2003 +0100, you wrote:
...It shows the task switcher icons with:-
3) ghostview (!)
3) konqueror (showing transparency fault)
4) xeyes and xclock (ok)
Are you sure you have all the patches in? #4 xclock is actually a watch
icon, with a black strap at the top and
I tried the xset r off when it was mentioned and have not had a keyboard
bounce problem since. According to the way I read the man page for xset,
only the rate parameter is handled by the keyboard extension and not the
autorepeat on/off. From what I can tell, in a ms-windows based xserver,
that
Howdy Colin et. al,
There is a quick, easy fix for the 16x16 bitmask icon problem.
At winmultiwindowwindow.c, line 1961 there's an if statement:
if (iconPtr-drawable.width 16 || iconPtr-drawable.height 16)
iconSize = 32;
else
iconSize = 16;
Replace it completely with just
Hi Earle,
Just about to try your patch.
I'm going cross-eyed starring at these icon!
I think that there is a black outline to xeyes and xclock icons that maybe
gets lost in the wash!
KDE show them with an outline (maybe it's an add-on effect?)
Also think xclock has a watch icon now, after all,
Hi Earle,
Your fix is good.
No more transparent background problems on ethereal or konqueror icons.
I'm off to get my eyes tested!
Thanks
Colin
Hi Earle et al,
Just some (final?) results to show how good icon handling now is.
Notice the xclock and xeyes now have their correct border and
woopee it is a watch not a clock!
(It's a tiny attached file, 20K...honest Alexander!)
Captured at 16 bit colour 1280x1024 display.
Attached is a
Looking through the archives it seems that people were discussing
something like this about a year ago (see the double keystroke effects
with XP thread), but I'm not sure if this is quite the same thing, since
that report talks about problems only with normal-speed typing and I get
it even for
Lev,
Lev Bishop wrote:
Looking through the archives it seems that people were discussing
something like this about a year ago (see the double keystroke effects
with XP thread), but I'm not sure if this is quite the same thing, since
that report talks about problems only with normal-speed
Well, it looks like while I was composing that message there were people
solving the same problem. How nice that the cygwin/xfree86 community is so
responsive as to be able to post me fixes before I've even finished
posting the problem report ;-)
Anyway, xset r off does, indeed, seem to fix my
Lev,
Lev Bishop wrote:
Well, it looks like while I was composing that message there were people
solving the same problem. How nice that the cygwin/xfree86 community is so
responsive as to be able to post me fixes before I've even finished
posting the problem report ;-)
We aim to please :)
I dont know whether others noticed these.
1)
After we start XWin.exe the mouse pointer will automatically move to center of screen.
This is OK for normal mode, -nodecoration and -fullscreen.
But I think its not needed in -multiwindow and -rootless modes.
2)
On -multiwindow mode if we press
The correct solution if you asked me is to ignore the windows repeat
events and use this X feature that is causing the problem. I
would say this is the correct thing to do because of the very reason
that the feature was included in X in the first place (at least I
assume it is the reason). It
Howdy Colin, glad to hear it's working 100%. The original problem
was the endianness of Windoze 1-bit bitmap when using a non-32-bit
wide destination. I think the code was writing into the unused
portion of the 32-bits and you got garbage in the real mask part.
I found some kde apps on a linux
David,
No need to CC me on replies. Please don't.
Fries, David D wrote:
The correct solution if you asked me is to ignore the windows repeat
events and use this X feature that is causing the problem. I
would say this is the correct thing to do because of the very reason
that the feature was
Biju wrote:
I dont know whether others noticed these.
1)
After we start XWin.exe the mouse pointer will automatically move to center of screen.
This is OK for normal mode, -nodecoration and -fullscreen.
But I think its not needed in -multiwindow and -rootless modes.
I looked for the code that
Earle,
Whatever you do, don't send a patch for the mouse release fix until I
can make another test release. I am getting swamped with patches here.
Thanks.
Harold
Earle F. Philhower III wrote:
Howdy Colin, glad to hear it's working 100%. The original problem
was the endianness of Windoze
Howdy Harold,
At 12:04 AM 5/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Whatever you do, don't send a patch for the mouse release fix until I can
make another test release. I am getting swamped with patches here. Thanks.
OK, truce!
-Earle F. Philhower, III
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Howdy Biju, Harold:
At 12:03 AM 5/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Biju wrote:
I dont know whether others noticed these.
1)
After we start XWin.exe the mouse pointer will automatically move to
center of screen.
This is OK for normal mode, -nodecoration and -fullscreen. But I think
its not needed in
:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test87.exe.bz2 (1208 KiB)
Server source, direct link:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20030529-0045.tar.bz2 (116
KiB)
xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin (all files) diff against Test86 source code:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-Test86
Okay, test release posted.
Please replace local source with source from test release, reapply local
patches to test source, and submit new patches as needed. :)
I have made lots of style fixes to the source, so you might as well
replace all files... otherwise diffs will be useless for me as
Hi
I am a new user of Cygwin-xfree86.
I have an X server is listening on Win2k Server . When I try to invoke
xterm -display win2k server address from the nearest
Linux I get that connection problem - Xlib: No protocol specified
(connection refused by server)
I have read previous letters
One problem with setup.exe :
why are always test packages automatically downgraded to the stable
releases when installing other packages ?
I installed the file package after installing the Xfree86-xserv
4.2.0.38, setup downgraded it to 4.2.0.37.
=
Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle at users dot
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Okay, test release posted.
Please replace local source with source from test release, reapply local
patches to test source, and submit new patches as needed. :)
Harold, can you import your local tree to the cvs on sourceforge? So we can
easily do updates and keep
Panos,
This question probably belongs on the general Cygwin list, no on
Cygwin-XFree. I've added that list to this reply's distribution.
Further follow-ups and replies should go there only.
I believe you're expecting a CSH-equivalent shell (tcsh, e.g.). That
shell is available under Cygwin,
CVSROOT:/cvs/src
Module name:src
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-28 22:05:56
Modified files:
winsup/cygwin : ChangeLog fhandler_socket.cc
Log message:
* fhandler_socket.cc (fhandler_socket::dup): If running impersonated,
revert to original
Still no go. Attached is the output and my attempt to recreate the service.
- Original Message -
From: Harig, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chuck Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: crontab error
Please re-run the cron_diagnose.sh
And you mention MySQL. Do you have recent version of MySQL server built
on top of Cygwin? Is there a patch or a binary somewhere too?
You may not have problems with compiling mysql-3.23.56 under Cygwin.
If you need DLL headers, tell me address and I'll send you this one.
Sergey.
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On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:25:28PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am successfully ported qmail-1.03 and it seems to work good.
broad hint
Wouldn't it be nice to have somebody volunteering to become Cygwin
package maintainer for qmail? ;-)
/broad hint
Corinna
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Hi All,
I'm not sure if this issue has been detected. I have traversed
through the MANY probelm reports
and haven't been able to find any specifics on this problem.
The problem:
My system that I have Cygwin running on is a Windows 2000 platform. I have
set the appropriate environment
Sam,
At 03:17 2003-05-28, Sam Edge wrote:
Stuart Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
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in gmane.os.cygwin on Tue, 27 May 2003 13:07:18 +0100:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:42:21PM +0100, Sam Edge wrote:
Make sure that if your script uses Bash-specific features, it starts
with
Wouldn't it be nice to have somebody volunteering to become Cygwin
package maintainer for qmail? ;-)
It would be really good.
I just finished implementing AUTH DIGEST-MD5 for qmail and intensive
looking for Win32 MUA which supports it...
I have such plans:
- to do AUTH NTLM support,
- to add a
Cygwin != UNIX.
User management is done by Windows. If you want to add a user account, use
the Windows way to do it.
That being said, I remember someone (I don't recall the name but I helped
him out at the time) writing some user management scripts that worked
pretty well on the various
On 2003.05.28 15:13, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:25:28PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I am successfully ported qmail-1.03 and it seems to work good.
broad hint
Wouldn't it be nice to have somebody volunteering to become Cygwin
package maintainer for qmail? ;-)
/broad
Wouldn't it be nice to have somebody volunteering to become Cygwin
package maintainer for qmail? ;-)
/broad hint
Note about qmail distribution:
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html
You are right, of course, it need to get him (professor Dan Bernstein)
approval.
Sergey.
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I'm finding if I run the cron command manually from a shell window, it
works. If I try to start it as a service, it fails to start. Below is what I
found in the win2k application log. Does it help?
The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( cron ) cannot be found. The
local computer may not
linamat schrieb:
And you mention MySQL. Do you have recent version of MySQL server built
on top of Cygwin? Is there a patch or a binary somewhere too?
You may not have problems with compiling mysql-3.23.56 under Cygwin.
If you need DLL headers, tell me address and I'll send you this one.
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
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in gmane.os.cygwin on Wed, 28 May 2003 06:30:47 -0700:
The interpretation of #! lines is in the kernel (or, hereabout,
Cygwin1.dll, a kernel by any other name), just as the kernel would how
to handle a binary executable by
The client is not the problem, I have compiled my own version of MySQL,
including client dll and server. What I want is the server running on
top of Cygwin (well, I know it is ported to Windows and runs faster
without Cygwin, but just for fun I want it running on Cygwin too),
unfortunately the
Windows XP home edition
GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(9)-release (i686-pc-cygwin)
cygwin dll version 1.3.22
cygcheck -s -v -r attached
So I have observed a strange phenomenon, where if I execute man bash in
(using bash) and then suspend with ^Z, maybe one time in 4 there
is a situation where the
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Hi,
Gilles Civario in his 5/14 posting (Subject: Re: a2ps and
printer) indicated a simple lpr.c patch that enabled printing to
a postscript printer via cygwin lpr (which tends to be in the
path for utilities such as a2ps or enscript).
The next release of
This is what I had to do to enable the beep under:
Windows XP Home Edition Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Cygwin.dll 1.3.22
It seems that cygwin from 1.3.21 uses the windows default beep sound. I
wasn't able to set the default beep with the control panel sounds
and audio devices applet until
Issuing gdb -w just brings up command line interface like there is no -w
option. Any guess why?
Thank you,
Alexander Genkin
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Hello,
I wrote:
The client is not the problem, I have compiled my own version of MySQL,
You wrote:
Anyhow what mysql you want to use, libmysqlclient.dll from mysql sources
is recommended (not from mysql--win32.src). For vpopmail/vmailmgr, I
mean.
I have compiled mysql-4.1.0-alpha with
Chuck,
Cygwin services usually run as LocalSystem. Did you change the user the
service runs as?
See if /usr/sbin/cron has execute permission set for user SYSTEM (maybe do
a chmod a+x?).
Igor
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Chuck Hamilton wrote:
I'm finding if I run the cron command manually from
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 09:19, Alex Genkin wrote:
Issuing gdb -w just brings up command line interface like there is no -w
option. Any guess why?
Try running insight or gdb -i=insight. -w/-nw are broken right
now.
Keith
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- Original Message -
From: Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alex Genkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: gdb window interface would not start
Alex Genkin wrote:
Issuing gdb -w just brings up
Chuck Hamilton wrote:
I'm finding if I run the cron command manually from a shell window, it
works. If I try to start it as a service, it fails to start. Below is what I
found in the win2k application log. Does it help?
The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( cron ) cannot be found. The
Hannu, would you mind posting that again? I searched the archives at
Gmane and could not find your message. All I could find were messages
from other people complaining about the same problem and replies
telling them that's just the way it is, and a message from a
Brazilian guy saying that the
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Banville, Stephen wrote:
Hi All,
I'm not sure if this issue has been detected. I have traversed
through the MANY probelm reports
and haven't been able to find any specifics on this problem.
The problem:
My system that I have Cygwin running on is a Windows
Uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.1 WG44KA2G55H 1.3.22(0.78/3/2) 2003-03-18 09:20
i686 unknown unknown Cygwin
The cleartool application (part of ClearCase) will often present
question prompts in normal operation, to confirm certain operations.
When I execute these commands in a DOS box, it works fine.
Sorry by the confusion.
The subject was Re: Customizing rxvt dated 2003-04-26 and copies of the
files were re-posted in RE: shell display latin char. like this '\351' in
2003-05-03.
Luciano, I sent a copy of the first posting in private mail.
NOTE: Only part of the content is relevant.
/Hannu
Karr, David wrote:
Uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.1 WG44KA2G55H 1.3.22(0.78/3/2) 2003-03-18 09:20
i686 unknown unknown Cygwin
The cleartool application (part of ClearCase) will often present
question prompts in normal operation, to confirm certain operations.
When I execute these commands in a DOS box, it
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From: Andrew DeFaria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Karr, David wrote:
However, when I execute this in a Bash shell in RXVT, at the point
where it would issue the prompt, it just sits there doing nothing.
If I
then press Return, it immediately emits the prompt
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 04:45:48PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
(Wonder why this isn't on by default like ntsec...?)
For the obvious reason...
cgf
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Stephen,
I was about to ask the same question
If you find a solution, PLEASE Post, as I'm running out of workarounds, I
have had no luck with nosmbntsec/smbntsec on any recent version of
cygwin/inetd. I think the last time it worked was Cygwin1.3.10.
with smbntsec
[EMAIL
Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
For the future, please *attach* the cygcheck output to avoid generating
false positives on message archive search.
Random idea: would it be possible to instruct ezmlm-idx to bounce
messages containing cygcheck output in the body? (Or enough text to
identify cygcheck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilles Civario in his 5/14 posting (Subject: Re: a2ps and
printer) indicated a simple lpr.c patch that enabled printing to
a postscript printer via cygwin lpr (which tends to be in the
path for utilities such as a2ps or enscript).
Will this patch migrate into a
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:25:28PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am successfully ported qmail-1.03 and it seems to work good.
I've replaced flock() with fcntl() such as somebody did from one japan site.
Problem with spooling (absent mkfifo() and UNIX named pipe implementation
under Cygwin) was
Has anyone read my request for help and has any idea of what could be
happening with my Cygwin installation? I didn't have any problems
with accented characters until last Saturday. Then I formatted and
reinstalled Windows and now I have these problems:
- I cannot paste accented characters
This is an update release for the cygwin gnupg package. See:
http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2003q2/000267.html
for the original announcement.
New News:
-
* New upstream release. No changed patches for cygwin.
Old News:
-
Please read the README file:
This is what I had to do to enable the beep under:
Windows XP Home Edition Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Cygwin.dll 1.3.22
It seems that cygwin from 1.3.21 uses the windows default beep sound. I
wasn't able to set the default beep with the control panel sounds
and audio devices applet
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 04:45:48PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
(Wonder why this isn't on by default like ntsec...?)
For the obvious reason...
Because I refuse to eat my peas?
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Note about qmail distribution:
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html
You are right, of course, it need to get him (professor Dan Bernstein)
approval.
To cgf:
Yes, I must forget about sharing Win32 binaries.
Sergey.
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On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 06:56:04AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Note about qmail distribution:
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html
You are right, of course, it need to get him (professor Dan Bernstein)
approval.
To cgf:
Yes, I must forget about sharing Win32 binaries.
That's a really
Christopher Faylor wrote:
To cgf:
Yes, I must forget about sharing Win32 binaries.
That's a really regrettable outcome of the qmail license. Oh well.
cgf
As far as i remember some linux distro do have qmail in binary form...
they asked DJB and (as far as I remember) he added to the
Sam Edge [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Harald Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(OT) Does anyone know if any of the common shells, when they see
#!/bin/ at the front of a script, try a $PATH search for an
executable if they can't find /bin/? This would seem like
a good idea to
It already the permissions set to 777.
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ mkgroup_32256 Apr 15 11:16 cron*
I did try changing the user the service runs as but it failed with a logon
error so I changed it back to LocalSystem. It seems like it's got to be some
kind of Win2k permissions thing. If I run
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Luciano
- I cannot paste accented characters into rxvt. They are replaced
with weird symbols. I can type them and I can copy them, but I cannot
paste them back;
In other words; you cannot paste characters with the EIGHTH BIT set.
Harald Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
in gmane.os.cygwin on Thu, 29 May 2003 11:32:23 +0200:
Some people are using the env program to use the PATH environment:
#! /usr/bin/env perl
BEGIN { $^W = 1 }
Erm ... doesn't this just duplicate the problem? How can you guarantee
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 11:13:41AM -0400, Lev Bishop wrote:
Windows XP home edition
GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(9)-release (i686-pc-cygwin)
cygwin dll version 1.3.22
cygcheck -s -v -r attached
So I have observed a strange phenomenon, where if I execute man bash in
(using bash) and then
Chuck Hamilton wrote:
It already the permissions set to 777.
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ mkgroup_32256 Apr 15 11:16 cron*
Ahem. Here's the problem. Your /etc/group file is not current.
Rerun mkgroup with the appropriate flags. You may want to do this
for
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 05:04:26AM -0700, Dario Alcocer wrote:
I tried reproducing this, but I don't get the same exact results. For
me, it takes 7 or 8 tries, and all I get is a missing '[1]+ Stopped'
message from bash; the next keystrokes still go to bash, though. The
problem seems to go
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the reply. I have been struggling with this issue since
I upgraded my version of cygwin. Something has changed, I just can't figure
out what.
I will let you know if I find out anything.
Steve
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From: Bruce Dobrin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lapo Luchini wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
To cgf:
Yes, I must forget about sharing Win32 binaries.
That's a really regrettable outcome of the qmail license. Oh well.
What license? AFAICT there is no license, at most some webpages with DJB's
comments on software licenses (but no license).
Igor,
My account that I am logging in as is domain related only. I have no
local accounts
with the name user name. I added smbntsec and tried playing with the service
properties. This
didn't seem to make a difference. Something has changed in the recent
versions of cygwin surrounding
nt
Panos,
This question probably belongs on the general Cygwin list, no on
Cygwin-XFree. I've added that list to this reply's distribution.
Further follow-ups and replies should go there only.
I believe you're expecting a CSH-equivalent shell (tcsh, e.g.). That
shell is available under Cygwin,
[ Moving this over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to hunt for some libx* testers ;-) ]
Make sure that the LDFLAGS for the library, in the Makefile.am,
include the -no-undefined flag.
e.g.:
libfoo_la_LDFLAGS = -version-info 1:0:1 -no-undefined
(I'm not sure, but I *think* this thread belongs on the main
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