Re: Mozilla vis-à-vis Cygwin
Michael, Oh, yeah... Another D'Oh! moment: Now that you mention it, I remember your post. Sorry to act like it was a discovery. Apparently the people who earlier mentioned an interest in Mozilla under Cygwin / Cygwin-XFree86 had only an idle interest. I'll admit it's not a priority for me, I just wanted to let people know. As it turns out, it was redundant to do so. The old memory is going! Randall Schulz At 10:37 2003-06-17, Michael F. March wrote: I posted the same thing last month and no one seems to care. http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-05/msg00599.html
Mozilla vis-à-vis Cygwin
Hi, A while back there was some talk about the feasibility of a Cygwin-based Mozilla. In perusing the release notes for Mozilla 1.4 (http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.4rc1/) I noticed this: - As of Mozilla 1.4b, it is possible to build Mozilla for Win32 using GCC. See the win32 build instructions (http://www.mozilla.org/build/win32.html) for details. Perhaps this represents a meaningful portion of a the porting work necessary to create a GCC- / Cygwin- / X-based Mozilla variant. Randall Schulz
Re: Multiwindow request
Jeremy, At 08:47 2003-06-02, Peter Colovas wrote: I think the multi-window mode of xfree is great work. Since the addition of the changeable window title it has been everything I need. I have a feature request. I don't know how difficult it would be, but it would be great if the right click menu in the trayy had the option to open an new xterm window. I sometimes close my only local window, and I hate to have to shut everything else donw just to get a new one. I think some kind of simple mechanism to extend the XWin tray icon's pop-up menu would be good, but to arbitrarily add an xterm item seems much to fixed, limited and narrow. Randall Schulz Thanks for all the great work. -- Peter W. Colovas
Re: Windows NT installation 1.3.22-1
Panos, This question probably belongs on the general Cygwin list, no on Cygwin-XFree. I've added that list to this reply's distribution. Further follow-ups and replies should go there only. I believe you're expecting a CSH-equivalent shell (tcsh, e.g.). That shell is available under Cygwin, if you install it, but it is not the default interactive shell. That role is filled by BASH. You can modify or replace the BAT file or shortcut you use to start a Cygwin shell to use the shell of your choice. If eventually you set up remote logins using SSH, you'll have to modify the password file to override the default shell recorded there, which again will be /bin/bash. Cygwin makes available the following interactive shells via its Setup.exe installer: ash bash ksh (pdksh) sh (actually a synonym for ash -- beware when writing scripts using #!/bin/sh) tcsh zsh Good luck. Randall Schulz At 02:51 2003-05-28, Panos Stavroulis wrote: Hi, I've just installed ver 1.3.22-1. I can't do the foreach command from the prompt and don't need to write a script. Is something wrong with my installation or I am doing something wrong. Sorry if my question is too simplistic. Thanks, Panos
Re: What package is GLX OpenGL from?
Hi, Everybody! (with a Dr. Nick Riviera intonation) With the Monty Python Spam song intonation: FAQ, FAQ, FAQ, FAQ FAQ, FAQ, FAQ, FAQ But in keeping with my policy of not taunting or scolding without including a constructive answer, go here: http://cygwin.com/packages/. For best results, use as much as you know about the name. The search is a non-anchored grep pattern match against the package content lists. File suffixes can help, but beware that some standard command names are symlinks or scripts, so a .exe suffix will not be present in those cases. Randall Schulz At 11:05 2003-04-02, you wrote: My appologies if this is a FAQ, but I haven't found the answer to this, or the more generic question: How do I determine what package file x came from? Help with either is greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Brian Ford
Re: making X server a COM object..
Harold, At 15:50 2003-03-31, you wrote: KH, The scope is probably beyond the scope of this mailing list. I think you would be better off working first on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that compiled without Cygwin... then, and only then, could you even begin to worry about wrapping XFree86 with a COM interface. Cygwin /XFree86 without Cygwin is Win32/XFree86, or some such, is it not? It always seemed to me that the target specifier ought to come after the main program name: XFree86/Cygwin, XFree86/Win32, etc. Harold Randall Schulz
Re: sorry for the name
Kaio, That's OK. I assumed it was not intentional. Randall Schulz
Re: non-US keyboards
Hi, I guess based on your email address that you're in Italy, so probably you don't know that KKK has a very, very bad connotation in the United States where many of the Cygwin subscribers reside. KKK is short for the Ku Klux Klan, a violently racist vigilante group that originated in the American South. It formed after our Civil War when American chattel slavery became unconstitutional and its members terrorized black Americans (and others) for decades. The organization still exists, sadly, and still perpetrates violent acts, though far fewer than it did in the early and mid 20th century. The name KKK is extremely offensive to many people, most of all to black Americans, but many non-black people find it offensive, too. I'd like to respectfully suggest that you change the name portion of your email address to something will a less distasteful connotation. Sincerely, Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 18:58 2003-02-21, kkk wrote: yeah i'm very very newbie but... i won't a keyboard for my language!
Elementary Questions on Start-up Options
Hi, At 22:14 2003-01-22, senthill wrote: Hello All, I am newbie to Cygwin. I would like to know how to start and use startx effectively. My questions are: 1. The xwindows are similar to linux. Is there any options to be included while executing startx? 2. Is a login panel available and is it possible to login from neibhour m/c to cygwin? 3. Is there any possibility to have windows like or Gnome like Xwindows on cygwin? Looking forward to your reply. Somehow, I doubt that... Your message was sent to the wrong list, which I suppose is an honest mistake, but making it a reply to Chris' announcement about the restoration of the mail list search service is really not acceptable. I have corrected the subject and redirected this message to the proper list. Randall Schulz Thanks and Regards SKumar
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 70
J S (Bach?), When you want to confirm file integrity in this manner, it's a good idea to use some kind of checksum program, too: sum, cksum, md5sum or sha1sum. All of these are available under Cygwin. Randall Schulz At 08:27 2003-01-13, J S wrote: By the way, is this the same file size as your xwin? $ ls -l `which xwin` -rwxr-xr-x1 U752359 unknown 3381760 Jan 12 19:34 /usr/X11R6/bin/xwin
Re: Please consider!
It do, but it not perfect. RRS At 11:56 2003-01-13, Sylvain Petreolle wrote: Do the list have spam filter ? = Sylvain Petreolle
Re: Please consider!
Chris, Hey. I'm not complaining. Sylvain was. I'm just making fun of his syntax. Shame on me. Shall I induce more cat scratches? I bled a little already this morning. RRS At 12:22 2003-01-13, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 12:08:13PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: It do, but it not perfect. Is there perfect spam filter? spamassassin didn't catch this particular one. FWIW, since the beginning of the year, there have been 273 messages sent to this list. 142 were blocked as spam. cgf
Re: xwindow to the foreground
Kumarchi, Probably. Window activation / deactivation and raising / lowering are functions of the window manager. Without knowing which one you're running, it won't be possible to give you specific information on how to enable the option you want. Or you could do something like read the documentation or explore and experiment... (No gurus required!) Randall Schulz At 04:50 2003-01-04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I have multiple windows open, I had to click on the title bar on a window to bring it to the foreground. Is there way I can change this behavior so that whenever I click on a window it automaticlly brings it to the foreground? Thanx
Re: Windows Manager
Martin, When I need to know about command-line options or environment variables that are not documented or for commands for which documentation is not available or at hand, I do something like this: % strings /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe |egrep -e -rootless -rootless EXPERIMENTAL: Run the server in pseudo-rootless mode. -rootless Here it appears both the strings from the argument processing code and the usage message are found. This, then, suggests that there is a help message available. This command: % strings /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe |egrep -e ^- produces 123 lines, including this one: -help prints message with these options (Note that this particular program does not abide by the POSIX conventions stipulating the use of two hyphens for multiple-character option names.) However, you may be surprised at the result of invoking XWin -help, which is to say you'll see no output (nor will the X server start up). The help output _is_ produced, but it goes into /tmp/XWin.log (!) I hope that helps, especially by adding to your repertoire of self-help techniques. Randall Schulz At 06:42 2002-12-19, Martín De Marchi wrote: Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? Thanks.
Re: X11 and Heavy loadbalancing?
Hi, Since the native GUI model for Java programs running on Unix and Linux hosts is X11, any and all Java GUI applications running on such hosts are inherently able to have their human user interaction take place on a separate host (or X terminal) from the host on which they execute. Likewise, multiple application clients (in the X sense of client--an application that wants to interact with a user via keyboard, moust and raster display) can share a single server (again, in the X sense--i.e., user interaction hardware). This should make it possible to handle migration or load balancing of the Java application while the user remains at a single workstation. So, any Java software with an AWT or Swing GUI when running on a Unix platform with X support (all of them except MacOS X, I believe) should be able to do what I think you're contemplating. Now usually one does not put conventional Java GUIs on J2EE applications (to my limited knowledge), but I doubt there's any technical reason why it could not be done. Is this at all an answer to your question? Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 02:14 2002-11-15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, At my Connectiontoolprojekt (Win-GUI-Client for Cygwin) i have think by my self whats happend if a heavy load Situation is comming up and How can it be solved? Is there an Way to Make XFree scalable or is there an J2EE based Container for a Free XFree avaiable thadt can be integrated as Part of a Java Serverapplication- Cluster such as ORACLE 9iAS Appserver Modul? (Oracle self has implemented an E-Mailserver, na Fileserver, an Faxserver, LDAP and so thadt resides in the Applicationserver Middlewarelayer, thadt can be empowered by an Oracle Realapplication Cluster thadt Spans over the Network to other Machines they are Member of the Cluster) If no Project is launched at this Time then my X.NET Projekt at Sourceforge will by Upgraded to this Projektfeature. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ibsxnet/ Greetings Randy
Re: Questions on Xwin.exe arguments
Vola, Are you imploring some university to answer your questions? If you're addressing a human being from whom you wish to solicit an answer to your questions, then please use the English word you. While I am just one man and most certainly not an institution of any kind, I can tell you that window activation behavior in X is handled by the window manager. By default, twm uses the classic X focus-follows-mouse behavior. If twm allows this to be changed, the twm documentation probably holds that answer to how. Look for the word focus or Focus for starters. Also read the options regarding window raising behavior (raise / Raise). By the way, the activation behavior you want (that expected by most personal computer users who've never used X) is the default in Window Maker. Perhaps you'd like to try it. It's a lot fancier than twm, which you may or may not find desirable. Twm is pretty much the most elementary window manager available for XFree86/Cygwin. The next step up in terms of features and sophistication would be fvwm2. I think it also has the kind of default window activation behavior you want. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 08:44 2002-11-12, you wrote: Hi! I am running XWindo under Windows95 using the startxwin.bat where I have start XWin -emulate3buttons 100 run xterm -bg white -fg black -bd blue -ms blue -e 'source ~/.login' run twm run xsetroot -solid blue Do U know what should I have with XWin.exe so that the xterm behaves the way it behaves under LINUX, i.e when U have 2 xterm windows one over the other and U go to one of them and click your mouse and that xterm becomes active. Whereas what I see now is that I have to click the Top Border of the xterm to make it Active; I would Greatly Appreciate if U suggest something I should do. [by the way I used -lesspointer option to find out the same behavior!!!] Thanks in advance, regards, vola
Re: Rootless Mode Anyone ???
OK. Whose turn is it to chastise this? RTFMLA! At 12:56 2002-11-11, Bovy, Stephen wrote: I would like to try the new rootless mode, but I cant find any Info on how to use it ... Any suggestions ???
Re: rootless window management?
Christopher, We encourage people to search the mailing list archives before asking questions. Please consult http://cygwin.com/lists.html thoroughly. Rootless operation is a recent topic and the information is readily available in the list archive. But if you just want to jump in, the option to XWin is -rootless. Good luck. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 03:42 2002-11-05, Christopher M. Lyons wrote: I was wondering where I might find information on window management for rootless XFree. I know there's been talk of doing some work and making some progress on a taskbar icon based window manager, but there a website with news about such work?
Re: Package Management, app and util distributions, etc.
Christopher, [ There's really no need to cross-post this. Even though you mention looking for XFree86/Cygwin, the questions are all about how Cygwin is packaged and made available. ] At 03:56 2002-11-05, you wrote: I've been looking for application and utility disttributions for Cygwin, as well as for XFree under Cygwin. It seems as though there's not a good way to find packages (or catagories of packages) for Cygwin unless you already know the name of a package you want. Sometimes, even that's spotty. Perhaps you're unaware of the package list and search page at the Cygwin site: http://cygwin.com/packages/? You can enter the name of a file or a regular expression pattern and you will be told which packages, if any, contain that file. That's usually enough to locate the package you're interested in. I was wondering if there's any work towards a continually updated repository or mirroring of packages for Cygwin other than the packages installed by the Cygwin Setup Utility. or if there were any plans to add more packages to the Setup utility itself? There seems like there's a lot of stuff missing (configuration utilities, how-to documents, sendmail, pop3 server, no /etc/services file, lack of sample configuration files, etc). Of course, new packages are being added to Cygwin on an ongoing, though irregular basis. I think you need to look harder. Much of what you say you're looking for is indeed available. If you have the right combination of available disk space, network connectivity bandwidth and patience, you could just download and install everything and then explore. I'm not really complaining, I mean I realize that Cygwin is reletively new, but I was just wondering what some of the short and long term plans are, what is going to be implemented, 3rd party efforts towards compiling and distributing packages, etc. New to you, perhaps. In the time scales of the world of information technology, I'd say something that's been around for over 5 years to be some place beyond youth--middle age, perhaps? Certainly Cygwin is not new and is certainly mature. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA Randy
Re: HOWTO rootless mode??
Gr... At 13:24 2002-11-05, you wrote: I can't find any documentation on how to use rootless mode (or even what it is)? If you don't know what it is, how do you know _of_ if? Wherever you heard about it (could it be this list?), that's where you'll find other answers. But that does require looking... How do I start rootless mode? XWin -rootless Imagine that! Can anyone point me to some sources of help? http://cygwin.com/ http://cygwin.com/lists.html http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ Is it available with the latest (stable) distribution of cygwin/xfree? XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-15 (experimental) Thanks. Lars. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA
Re: HOWTO rootless mode??
At 13:41 2002-11-05, you wrote: Is it worth asking if the option has been added to the XWin.1 manpage? Why don't you just find out for yourself? (If it isn't, then... er...) Er... what?? Say what you mean, please. If you don't find the software or the documentation acceptable, then you know what to do. Hint: Put up or shut up. Kdt Randall R Schulz was recently quoted as saying... Gr... At 13:24 2002-11-05, you wrote: I can't find any documentation on how to use rootless mode (or even what it is)?
Re: HOWTO rootless mode??
At 13:56 2002-11-05, you wrote: Randall, Be nice. remorseful headHung='true' Yes, sir. /remorseful
Re: Randall, please don't post here
Lars, I have no intention of catering to your delicate sensibilities. Participants in these lists are expected to do their homework, and that includes searching the list archives before posting questions. Innuendo about inadequate documentation, such as you posted, is far more inappropriate than the slightly harsh tone I took with you. One aspect of promoting this software, which I agree is impressive and immensely valuable, is suppressing redundancy on the mailing lists so information is more accessible to newcomers. I think you need to reconsider your own expectations rather than try to impose them on others. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 14:10 2002-11-05, you wrote: Hi Randall, If you can't be civilized, please don't post to this list. It is better not to post than to post comments like the one you just posted. Apparently, judging from your comments, you're not interested in any newbies figuring out how to use cygwin/xfree. What is the matter with folks posting questions to learn new stuff? Aren't you interesting in helping to spread this great software across the globe? Lars.
One Apology An Acknowledgement of Error
To Whom It May Concern (and Keith and Lars), OK. The put up or shut up comment was too harsh and unwarranted as such. I should have politely said: Patches gratefully accepted. Furthermore, I mistakenly thought that Keith's statement (If it isn't, then... er...) was written by Lars, so I should not have accused him of innuendo. Apparently I also simply misinterpreted it as innuendo. Mea culpa! Lastly, I've got to say that I don't think the issue is about what's worth asking, it's about which questions can be reasonably expected to be answered by participants on the list which should be the responsibility of the inquisitor. Are we good? Randy
RE: Rootless: how to get wm menu?
Hi, And the F12 and all other keyboard bindings are configurable, of course. Also, F11 brings up the WindowMaker windows menu. On a related topic: I just tried to get window cycling to work, but changing the configured key sequence doesn't seem to work. I used the Capture button to change the Focus next window and Focus previous window to CTRL-TAB and CTRL-SHIFT-TAB, resp. The WMaker options dialog reports these as Control+Mod2+Tab and Control+Shift+Mod2+Tab. Nonetheless, neither the window activation nor the focus are switched when I type CTRL-TAB or CTRL-SHIFT-TAB. Am I doing something wrong, or is this feature not working? Or is it simply not supported. Thanks. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 09:05 2002-10-25, you wrote: If you are running WindowMaker, pressing F12 gets the root menu. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner;cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless: how to get wm menu? Keith D. Tyler wrote: You could run an app that shows some root window space. Try running Xeyes. The rootless mode doesnt include the X shape mask of xeyes in the Windows shape map for rootless mode, so the corners of xeyes should be usable as root window click-space. That's not true anymore. The latest release of XWin (4.2.0-15) support shapes in rootless mode. Jehan
No Taskbar Icon (Was: Re: -Rootless AND -NoDecoration)
Harold, At 10:24 2002-10-25, you wrote: Randall, No, there is no such combination of flags. How do you intend to set the focus to Cygwin/XFree86 without a taskbar entry? I mean, you could minimize it and not be able to get it back. Without a taskbar icon, I don't know how XWin could get minimized. Would ALT-SPACE N while the X server layer (as I think of it in -rootless mode) was active do it? Also, the Windows SETIhome GUI shows that a window with no taskbar icon can still show up in the ALT-TAB list of icons. In the future, when we write the Windows-based window manager, I intend to make Cygwin/XFree86 use a system tray icon rather than a taskbar icon, but only when using the Windows-based window manager. That would be nice, but I'd still like to avoid the taskbar icon even when I'm using an X-based window manager. Now, from the perspective of building a correct application, can't you see that it would be incredibly non-standard of us to allow Cygwin/XFree86 to not have a taskbar icon? No other Windows application that needs to be minimized/restored/closed has that behavior. Typically, only applications that are either closed or open are in the system tray. Can you see my point? I suppose you could code such a feature if you wanted that did not change the default behavior, but I'm not sure how much use it would be to others... Not at all. There are applications that show windows without taskbar icons when the application writer deemed it appropriate. Since the Windows API makes it possible, it was clearly seen as a viable option that might be desirable in some contexts. Perhaps others could weigh in on whether they'd like to have the option to avoid a taskbar icon? Harold Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi, Please forgive my creative capitalization in the Subject line. I had hoped that using -nodecoration with -rootless would prevent the XWin server getting a taskbar icon, but alas, no. Is there a combination of options or a configuration file or environment setting that will suppress the taskbar icon in rootless mode? Oh, yeah... Rootless Rocks! Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA
RE: No Taskbar Icon (Was: Re: -Rootless AND -NoDecoration)
Jean-Claude, I think that's equally a valid a request. Probably even more-so. I just don't like how cramped the taskbar tabs get, and I refuse to give the taskbar more than one row. I'm just odd that way. Sorry not to disagree with you. Randall Schulz Mountai View, CA USA At 13:46 2002-10-25, Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: Here's a heretic opinion: I want a taskbar icon for EACH X application! Nyah!
Re: Uses for Cygwin/XFree86
Chris, There are 139 executables in the /usr/X11R6/bin directory of my installation. Granted, most of them are just X and XFree86 utilities and elementary components, but it's more than just XTerm and XEyes. I've compiled the NCAR graphics environment (version 4.2.3) under Cygwin/XFree86. Somewhere along the line I picked up xfig, but I can't remember where (it's not listed as a part of the Cygwin distribution). Ahh, there we go: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html. That must be where I got it. Look there for other contributed software. OpenDX looks cool. Also try this page: http://lassauge.free.fr/cygwin/ (http://lassauge.free.fr/cygwin/en_cygwin.htm for English). What sort of applications are you looking for? What do you wish you had that you don't? I don't know for what purposes others use this very powerful tool, but it's an integral part of my plan for world domination. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 16:04 2002-10-21, Chris Plonski wrote: I have used Cygwin/XFree86 for a couple of years now almost exclusively for XDMCP. I think it's one of the best products available for this. And now with the new rootless mode, Irix seems quite at home on my PC! However, every time I fire it up in stand-alone mode (non-XDMCP) via the startxwin.bat or .sh scripts, I am amazed by the apparent dearth of X applications (with the exception of xterm and xeyes). Are most people using this product for home-brewed applications or am I missing something really obvious? I would really like to know what most people are using this apparently very powerful tool for.
Re: Uses for Cygwin/XFree86
Luke, Would that mail client be Sylpheed? I looked into it and generally liked what I saw, but the fact that it uses MH style message storage (one file per message!!) led me to decide I could not switch to it. That's far to much storage overhead for me to tolerate since I keep very large archives of the many mailing lists to which I subscribe. If it's some other mail client, I'd like to hear about it, because I'm looking to trade up from Eudora, but the only feature that it's missing (apart from it's limited platform support) is message threading based on message IDs (not merely subject headers). Everything else about it is pretty good, especially it's searching and filtering capabilties. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 20:41 2002-10-21, you wrote: On 21 Oct, Harold L Hunt II wrote: I also use Cygwin/XFree86 to display X forwarded windows via ssh from other hosts... this is more convenient that XDMCP when the remote host is running some crap WM like CDE, or when XDMCP logins are disabled to save processing resources (like at the cyclotron lab that I work at). At home, my wife uses is to run a nice GUI mail client that's safe from Windows viruses etc. (since it's actually running on a Linux box), under Windows 95. I'm also doing the same thing on my laptop at work, for when I'm off site and want to slogin to read my email (which again, is delivered to my Linux machine there). luke
Re: cygwin-xfree Digest 1 Oct 2002 19:15:48 -0000 Issue 887
At 09:37 2002-10-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PREHow do i unsubscribe from this list ...please some one tell me. i didn't intentionally sign on to this list my younger brother tricked me into it. Sorry for your inconvinence..to all Hi, Hint attached. Use the corresponding header from your mail (please don't attempt to unsubscribe me...) Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA Unsubscribe-Answer.gif Description: GIF image
Re: cygwin-xfree Digest 1 Oct 2002 19:15:48 -0000 Issue 887
Harold, I'm glad you liked it. I used PhotoPlus 8 from Serif software (http://www.serif.com/). I'm sure lots of image manipulation programs can do that. Surely GIMP can, right? Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 13:52 2002-10-03, you wrote: Randall, Now that is cool! What program did you do the highlighting in? I think we should make an AI program that automatically searches the FAQ or project website for anything following ``Why can't I [...]'' or ``How do I [...]'', grabs a screen shot, and highlights the relevant portion. I think we should do it if for no other reason than the huge grin it gave me when I saw it :) Harold Randall R Schulz wrote: At 09:37 2002-10-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PREHow do i unsubscribe from this list ...please some one tell me. i didn't intentionally sign on to this list my younger brother tricked me into it. Sorry for your inconvinence..to all Hi, Hint attached. Use the corresponding header from your mail (please don't attempt to unsubscribe me...) Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA
Re: Utilities
Mike, Everything is accessible in one place (via many mirrors, of course): The Setup.exe program can download and install everything you're looking for, including (optionally) source code. If you want to know which package contains which file, go to http://cygwin.com/packages/ and enter a file name (it's a good idea to include the .exe suffix for short names like vi). By the way, Cygwin makes a symlink to vim.exe providing the alias vi, but the program is vim.exe. If you look for vi.exe you'll get packages that include executables whose (base) names end with dvi (TeX related, of course). Randall Schulz At 18:45 2002-08-25, mike iannone wrote: Where do I get utilities for CyGwin...like vi, sed, more etc. ? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com Randy
Re: Finally on Sylpheed
At 23:16 2002-07-24, Jim George wrote: I say finally but of course the fun is just beginning for me:) I now have sylpheed (the X Mail Client) running under cygwin-X ... Can the lis let me know if there is interest in a X Mail Client for cygwin, in which case I'll investigate becoming a maintainter for the list? Cheers, Jim Jim, I'm very interested in a cross-platform replacement for Eudora (for two big reasons: first, I want to get free of Windows but need a transition from my current development environment, which is Windows 2000, and second I want a mailer with message threading, which the Sylpheed FAQ claims is an available option). So yes, I'm very interested in a XFree86/Cygwin port of Sylpheed. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA
Re: replies to xfree
Dennis, http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 05:23 2002-07-22, Dennis Foreman wrote: Shouldn't replies to a list automatically go to the list? My replies seem to be going to the personal mail of posters. I believe there is a setting in many list servers that prevents the replies from going to the poster. regards, D. J. Foreman
Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
At 13:13 2002-06-06, Nicholas Wourms wrote: People, For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. Thanks, Nicholas Nicholas, Witness: % bzip2 -k toto.PNG % ls -l toto.PNG toto.PNG.bz2 -rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None22747 Jun 6 13:30 toto.PNG* -rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None22450 Jun 6 13:30 toto.PNG.bz2 Less than 300 bytes save. More would be saved by appropriate trimming of quoted message bodies. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA
Re: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing
Jehan, Use ALT-Tab and you can get (back) to the full-screen X server window. Personally, I like this. The details of the comings and goings of the full-screen X window are perhaps not ideal, but it's nice that it goes away totally when it's not in front and that I really get the full extent of the monitor without any window frame / border and controls. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 17:04 2002-06-06, Jehan Bing wrote: Hi, I'm on Win2k SP5. I use XFree in fullscreen mode via the DOS batch file.In a specific case, XWin is never showing: 1. Launch XWin via the batch (didn't try via the sh script) in fullscreen mode 2. Before the XWin screen shows up, click on another window (this moves the focus from XWin to that window) 3. Notice that at some point the window you clicked on loses it's focus (blue titlebar becomes gray) 4. Notice that at the same time, the mouse cursor get centered on the screen (as XWin would have done) 5. Notice the X window never shows up and that no XWin button appears in the taskbar. 6. Open the task manager, XWin is running. result: there is no way to go in XWin (no taskbar button) nor any to close it (as opposed to kill it) I can reproduce this bug any time following those steps. Jehan
RE: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing
Harold, I see. I still like the way it behaves... When it behaves, which for me it always has. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 19:00 2002-06-06, Harold Hunt wrote: Randall, Jehan is indeed talking about a real problem where XWin does not successfully register its window. The result is that there is no window entry on the taskbar and you cannot switch to the application via Alt+Tab. This is a bug and I appreciate the easily reproducible test case. I'll take a look at this. Harold
Re: Xinerame ?
Hi, Someone recently put me on to Virtual Desktop which is free ($) software that might interest those with a craving for screen real estate (there never is enough, is there?). Neither of us has tried it with XFree86, however, so if someone here does, please report your experiences to the list. http://www.enablesoftware.com/ Virtual Desktop is the last item listed on the page. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 13:32 2002-05-10, Harold L Hunt wrote: Philippe, As far as I know, Xinerama provides multiple screen support for XFree86. I was never able to find much documentation about Xinerama. However, *you* need to explain to *me* why using XFree86's hardware-level multiple screen support would provide any benefit (or even make sense) for Cygwin/XFree86, which has no direct access to the hardware. From what I know about Xinerama (and I could be missing something about Xinerama) it has absolutely no application to Cygwin/XFree86. Harold Philippe Bastiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why Xinerama seems not supported by Cygwin/XFree86 ? I found no reference to the library relating to this XFree86 feature... Philippe Bastiani
Re: Legacy Installation of XFree86/Cygwin vs. Setup.exe XFree86 Packages
Matt, Well, after waiting a while for some feedback, I took the plunge. I don't think there's a problem but... When (or after) I run XFree86/Cygwin, my system develops serious stability problems. The last time it happened, I first noticed that my dual-CPU system was showing only one CPU in the Task Manager Performance tab. That scared me, so I decided to reboot. More problem symptoms followed. When the boot process completed the hardware scan and got to the point where the Welcome to Windows 2000 low-resolution splash screen would be taken down and the monitor resolution switched, I instead got a long period of disk activity, which I took to be an automatically invoked file system check (I have all NTFS systems, so I'm not used to this happening and it alarmed me). There was no indication of what was happening (as their ordinarily would be for a checkdsk, either manually requested or automatically invoked). However, once that was done, the system booted normally. Nonetheless, I don't like things like this happening to my system. Now, I assume XFree86/Cygwin has no kernel or driver components and that this symptom points to a problem in the driver for my Matrox G400 MAX (which is the latest driver). Over the past couple of years since I've had this card, I've found that new Matrox drivers improve upon the old ones (they've fixed some odd symptoms in Java GUIs and in Mozilla) without any down-sides, but it appears that's not so this time. Anyway, unless someone tells me that these symptoms really could have been the result of problems in XFree86/Cygwin and that re-installation using Setup.exe over an older manual installation could lead to this, I'm assuming my XFree86/Cygwin installation is OK. I downloaded and installed all the XFree86/Cygwin packages, by the way. However, I'm loath to use XFree86 while this problem lurks. I have comprehensive daily backups and all, but tempting fate like this is not my idea of a thrill (that's what bicycling in urban traffic is for)... Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 14:31 2002-05-09, Matt Wilkie wrote: I haven't seen an answer to this one yet. Is that because no one knows? I'm in the same boat. -matt wilkie Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi, I installed XFree86/Cygwin via the semi-manual procedure that predates the release of Setup.exe packages. I want to know how I should handle switching over to the Setup.exe-based installation of XFree86/Cygwin. Should I just download the packages and install over the existing XFree86/Cygwin installation? (I always download binary source packages and then separately install only the binaries, keeping the sources in tarball form until I should happen to need them). If it matters, I've installed a couple of separate XFree86 software packages (XFig and the NCAR Graphics and NCL systems). The NCAR software installation isn't trivial, so if I could avoid having to redo it, that would be preferable. Thanks. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA
RE: Legacy Installation of XFree86/Cygwin vs. Setup.exe XFree86 Packages
Robert, No, I really didn't think so, but I was hoping that if someone saw the symptoms and the specific graphics hardware I was using they might have a specific recommendation or some diagnostic information for me. And I assume that the _apparent_ loss of a CPU was not actually that, but rather the result of some stray reference clobbering a kernel data structure. Judging from the later symptoms, there was damage to some data structures that got written to disk, too. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 20:07 2002-05-09, Robert Collins wrote: Randall, There's nothing in X or Cygwin that could cause a CPU to disappear on you. Rob
Legacy Installation of XFree86/Cygwin vs. Setup.exe XFree86 Packages
Hi, I installed XFree86/Cygwin via the semi-manual procedure that predates the release of Setup.exe packages. I want to know how I should handle switching over to the Setup.exe-based installation of XFree86/Cygwin. Should I just download the packages and install over the existing XFree86/Cygwin installation? (I always download binary source packages and then separately install only the binaries, keeping the sources in tarball form until I should happen to need them). If it matters, I've installed a couple of separate XFree86 software packages (XFig and the NCAR Graphics and NCL systems). The NCAR software installation isn't trivial, so if I could avoid having to redo it, that would be preferable. Thanks. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA
