Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread petro
Most insurance companies are worth millions, if not billions, of dollars, and they make huge profits. Insuring all of the people that they now deny based on genetic abnormalities would still allow them to make decent profits. So? Where is it mandated that they cover those? In

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread petro
This is why the current American system where virtually everyone's insurance pays for virtually every visit to the doctor is such a bad idea. People should be paying for their ordinary, year-in year-out health care. Insurance should only enter the picture if The system only works

Re: Re: Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread petro
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Neil Johnson wrote: But the Bob has no control of his risk (genetics), or at least not yet :). The insurance company does. Say What?! Sorry, no insurance company has the power to say who is and is not born with particular genetics. I don't have a problem with insurance

Re: Tim May's anti-semitic rants

2000-10-20 Thread petro
This list is no stranger to Tim May's sarcasm and anti-semitic rants. He's bashing a completely facist and dictatorial country of which a sizeable number of citizens are completely willing to commit genocide of the very same kind that was once waged against them. I cannot

Re: It's all property, folks

2000-10-20 Thread petro
Your neighbor pollutes your lungs or your land and you don't know what to do about it? Shit man, get real -- $5 bucks worth of gasoline and a midnight stroll takes care of his house, him, and his family. Burning someones house down is *REALLY* bad for the air and land around the

Re: Tim May's anti-semitic rants

2000-10-20 Thread Tom Vogt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Typical of May to wish that those who he hates be nuked, but please don'tt let it effect his portfolio. so? in that respect he's a great relief from all the "houlier than thou" "for the chiiildren" pseudo-moralists. in the end, nobody cares if he's not affected.

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2000-10-20 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: Tim May's anti-semitic rants

2000-10-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
Right. While I feel some sense of moral obligation to feel compassion for victims of genocide in Africa, the reality is that traffic in downtown Washington affects me more. To paraphrase: One person dying is a tragedy One million dying is a statistic One billion lost in NASDAQ value is a

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread Marshall Clow
At 2:11 PM +0300 10/20/00, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Marshall Clow wrote: So these people are entitled to something for nothing? (or in this case, $1500 of treatment for $1000 of premiums)? Why? Because keeping people operable longer makes for net savings for the society?

Encryption export rules finalized

2000-10-20 Thread George
See: http://www.pscu.com/Newsbytes/2000/156920.html http://www.nandotimes.com/technology/story/body/0,1634,500270563-500421503-502621147-0,00.html

Re: Non-Repudiation in the Digital Environment (was Re: FirstMonday August 2000)

2000-10-20 Thread Bob Jueneman
Let's put this problem in perspective, and try to avoid the "chicken little, the sky is falling" syndrome. It's quite unlikely that someone would come up with "Eureka!" type of solution to factoring large numbers that would end up completely breaking RSA, or that some way would be found to

Word.

2000-10-20 Thread George
Of course all of us knew this. The article is good for explaining to non-technical friends. http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB972002214791170991.htm October 20, 2000 Electronic Form of 'Invisible Ink' Inside Files May Reveal Secrets By MICHAEL J. MCCARTHY Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread Me
From: "Nathan Saper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So these people are entitled to something for nothing? (or in this case, $1500 of treatment for $1000 of premiums)? That's the whole idea of insurance, isn't it? The point of insurance is to pool resources and spread risk; it isn't a ponzi scheme. If

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 02:30:40AM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: Nathan Saper wrote: On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 01:02:44AM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: Nathan Saper wrote: Nathan seems to be arguing that insurance companies should be forced

Re: Paranoid Encryption Standard (was Re: Rijndael Hitachi)

2000-10-20 Thread Bram Cohen
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: I read the Massey and Maurer paper (One can find it at http://www.isi.ee.ethz.ch/publications/isipap/umaure-mass-inspec-1993- 1.pdf ) and I have a couple of comments on it. This is just silly. There's nothing wrong with Rijndael. -Bram Cohen

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 01:26:48PM -0500, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 22:42 -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote: Coverage is most often less expensive than care. Therefore, one may be able to afford the coverage, but not afford the care, if it ends up

Re: Non-Repudiation in the Digital Environment (was Re: First Monday August 2000)

2000-10-20 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
At 11:50 AM -0600 10/20/2000, Bob Jueneman wrote: Let's put this problem in perspective, and try to avoid the "chicken little, the sky is falling" syndrome. It's quite unlikely that someone would come up with "Eureka!" type of solution to factoring large numbers that would end up completely

Re: Word.

2000-10-20 Thread jim bell
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 13:29 PM Subject: Word. Of course all of us knew this. The article is good for explaining to non-technical friends. http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB972002214791170991.htm

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Re: Anyone know easy symmetric cypher for perl?

2000-10-19 Thread petro
I need a perl module or a function that would perform symmetric key encryption/decryption. I need it to encode secret information in URLs. Thanks I thought you were brighter than that Igor. http://search.cpan.org/search?mode=modulequery=encrypt -- A quote from Petro's Archives:

Re: Insurance (was: why should it be trusted?)

2000-10-19 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:11 PM -0500 on 10/18/00, Neil Johnson wrote: How does crypto-anarchy/libertarian/anarchy propose to deal with the "tragedy of the commons" where by doing what is best for each persons own interests they end up screwing it up for everyone (Overgrazing land with to many cattle is the

Re: Re: Insurance (was: why should it be trusted?)

2000-10-19 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:20 PM -0600 on 10/18/00, Anonymous wrote: Crypto-anarchy is in fact not really anarchy, since it only addresses some kinds of authority, ie government, and only in certain situations. True anarchy involves the dissolution of other hierarchical relationships, including those that spring

Tim May's anti-semitic rants

2000-10-19 Thread auto9950013
This list is no stranger to Tim May's sarcasm and anti-semitic rants. You just used a German word. I'm reporting you to the Zionist League. "Remember, children of Israel, "Eretz Israel" is not the same thing as "lebensraum," and the suppression of the ragheads in Eretz Israel is merely pest

re:Tim May's anti-semitic rants

2000-10-19 Thread auto9950013
Tim's anti Jewish sentiments are obvious in his current posts and in the past. If he had any guts he would admit what he really feels instead of using sarcasm and obfuscation. Tim May writes Nowhere in my article did I mention Jews or Judaism.

re:Tim May's anti-semitic rants

2000-10-19 Thread Tim May
At 2:05 PM -0500 10/19/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim's anti Jewish sentiments are obvious in his current posts and in the past. If he had any guts he would admit what he really feels instead of using sarcasm and obfuscation. This anonymous poster complains that I haven't admitted what I

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2000-10-19 Thread Tim May
I know Declan is libertarian-leaning, but it seems to me he has good reason to hope Bush wins. Look at Bush's latest stump speech: Thursday October 19 2:13 PM ET Bush Calls Gore Out of Step with New Economy Reuters Photo By Patricia Wilson FRASER, Mich. (Reuters) - Deriding Democrat Al Gore

re:Tim May's anti-semitic rants

2000-10-19 Thread auto9950013
Typical of May to wish that those who he hates be nuked, but please don'tt let it effect his portfolio. May Rants And what will I think of millions of Zionists being incinerated or coughing out their last breaths? I'll think of it as the inevitable consequences of encouraging people in

Re: Tim May's anti-semitic rants

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"9950013" == auto9950013 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 9950013 Tim's anti Jewish sentiments are obvious in his current 9950013 posts and in the past. And your irrelevant drivel has earned you a place in my killfile. Congratulations! -- Matt Curtin, Founder Interhack Corporation

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2000-10-19 Thread Mac Norton
well, is Armey opposed to Carnivore? Or not? MacN On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote: And a Napster poll: http://freedom.gov/vote/vote5.asp http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/19/2251239 Justice Department Carnivore Review a Sham?

re:Tim May's anti-semitic rants

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Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-18 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 10:17:17PM -0700, petro wrote: Even if they do (which I haven't heard of, but I could be wrong), the trend right now is more corporate power, less governmental power. As I said before, we are already seeing this

Re: Stop spam!

2000-10-18 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 10:20:23PM -0700, petro wrote: Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 06:48:48PM -0700, Tim May wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, [iso-8859-1] Ing. Fausto C.G. wrote: I dont now where did you get my e-mail, but I

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-17 Thread petro
One of the points I believe is sorely missing in these discussions is how important "improvements in algorithms" can be. In the narrowest sense, I agree with your statements - but I have also seen what elegant alternative approaches can do to systems that were presumed to be vulnerable only to

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Re: A helpful ruling on anonymity

2000-10-17 Thread Matt Curtin
"Tim" == Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim This is helpful because it pushed anonymity back into the Tim technological arena, where it belongs. Indeed. With all of the people running around claiming that data which are pseudonymous are actually anonymous, it's no wonder that there's

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2000-10-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
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2000-10-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
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Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-17 Thread Tim May
At 7:24 AM -0400 10/17/00, John Young wrote: The question occurs: did PK crypto get leaked on purpose? How was it done? I'm not sure what your implication is, though I have some suspicion you are insinuating that the NSA and Company knew PK was somehow weak and so it leaked it. Well,

RE: Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-17 Thread Ray Dillinger
It occurs to me that the NSA may in fact have a much easier time of cracking most encrypted messages than is generally believed by the people who use them. We can rule out the idea that they may have computers capable of solving the ciphers by a brute force key search or modulus factoring

Re: Stop spam!

2000-10-17 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, John Galt wrote: Cypherpunks is archived? Isn't that against what most cypherpunks stand for? I know it sets up a "style fingerprint" attack against anonymity... Do you imagine for an instant that a list like this could go out, be available to anonymous people, and

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2000-10-17 Thread Jordan Dimov
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Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-17 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 02:43:14PM +0100, Ken Brown wrote: Nathan Saper wrote: Fine. My basis for my claim is that the NSA is the best funded and best equiped electronic intelligence agency in the world, and they have employed some of the

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-17 Thread Tim May
At 5:50 PM -0700 10/17/00, Nathan Saper wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:07:00PM -0400, David Honig wrote: At 09:14 PM 10/16/00 -0400, Nathan Saper wrote: When do cops take DNA at traffic stops? Not yet. But I believe the UK takes samples of everyone arrested (not necessarily guilty)

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-17 Thread Allen Ethridge
On Tuesday, October 17, 2000, at 08:19 PM, Tim May wrote: At 5:50 PM -0700 10/17/00, Nathan Saper wrote: >On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:07:00PM -0400, David Honig wrote: >> Not yet. But I believe the UK takes samples of everyone >> arrested (not necessarily guilty) of minor crimes, and some >>

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Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-17 Thread David Honig
At 11:58 AM 10/16/00 -0700, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: Isn't utterly obvious that the NSA, just any decent person, compartmentalizes its security so that if one system were broken, the other systems would not necessarily be broken? Very well said. They also benefit from security via obscurity

Re: Two items, of varying relevance to the list

2000-10-16 Thread Tom Vogt
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Re: why should it be trusted?

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Re: Re: why should it be trusted?

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Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-15 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 05:28:19PM -0400, Jordan Dimov wrote: I don't know much about crypto politics, but... isn't it utterly obvious that the mere fact that the NSA suggest a certain algorithm (say Rijndael) for a national standard and

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2000-10-13 Thread Ken Brown
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Re: FBI: We Need Cyber Ethics Education

2000-10-11 Thread Bill Stewart
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Re: Gov. Bush links Columbine massacre to Internet use

2000-10-11 Thread Tim May
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Re: Rijndael Hitachi

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Vin McLellan me wrote: My comment was simply that the Hitachi patent claims set the stage for rumors that may shadow the AES choice for years. I think that is unfortunate. Personally, I think it is embarrassing that the Hitachi patents were ever issued. Arnold G.

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Bruble2 address change

2000-10-02 Thread Admin of Bruble Anonymous Remailer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- New address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old address is still functional, there is forward to new address. The only change to key is in the name (email.si) Have nice time. Config line here is provisional. To see current

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-02 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, James A.. Donald wrote: Chomsky is hardly a reliable source. He routinely fabricates or falsifies quotes. I suggest you check his alleged sources. Do you have some past examples at hand?` Sampo Syreeni [EMAIL PROTECTED], aka decoy, student/math/Helsinki university

First, Mexico's future lies with free, open source softwarelike the operating system Linux, and Gnome

2000-10-02 Thread Matthew Gaylor
[Sent with permission-MG] DIGITAL NATION Mexico Has Resources for High-Tech Success By Gary Chapman Copyright 2000, The Los Angeles Times, All Rights Reserved An open letter to Mexican President-elect Vicente Fox: Congratulations on your historic victory in the presidential election. About

Down with techno-egalitarinism, from a reluctant cpunk

2000-10-02 Thread Declan McCullagh
I spoke Thurs night at the University of Virginia (http://www.politechbot.com/p-01393.html). I talked a lot about cypherpunkly topics (added some stuff that I haven't seen here, and plan to turn into an article) and even gave the how-to-join address of the cpunx list. Below is a response from

Re: HOME MADE BOMBS

2000-10-01 Thread Mark Allyn
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Olav wrote: Maybe someone could make a statistic. How many please-delete-this, I-need-bomb-plans, I-need-these-xxx-passwords-now, You-need-killing--tim or whatever mails are there per month? I just respond with stupid answares like putting water in a jelly jar in the

rose icon meaning?

2000-10-01 Thread Anonymous
Could someone explain or provide a reference for what the rose icon signifies? -Anon Tim writes: [...] Gilding the lily...or the "Cypherpunks rose," appropriately.

Re: rose icon meaning?

2000-10-01 Thread Tim May
At 1:34 AM + 10/2/00, Anonymous wrote: Could someone explain or provide a reference for what the rose icon signifies? -Anon Tim writes: [...] Gilding the lily...or the "Cypherpunks rose," appropriately. If you dug this out of the archives, including the extrapolation from my brief

Re: HOME MADE BOMBS

2000-10-01 Thread Tim May
At 1:50 PM -0400 9/30/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEED INFO TEXASMAN8012 Sorry, TEXASMAN8012, we are stll fulfilling the "help me make bombz" and "send me kiddie porn" requests of many before you. After we fulfill the request sent in by Hackerdood, aka Stockton Police Department, and after

More news from Somalia

2000-10-01 Thread James A.. Donald
-- Many of you may have seen news items about another attempt to form a government in Somalia. Many of you may have seen a news item that the president entered Mogadishu, the former capital of former Somalia, surrounded by a large military force, and was warmly welcomed. Well it seems

Register Your Domain Name For Free With Hosting

2000-10-01 Thread kim
Title: webdomainmania webdomainmania.com Site Host - Signaturedomains.com Free Domain Names with Free Web Design with Unlimited Personal E-mail and Free Maintenance. If you need a website for your business or for your personal use, then leave the design to

Re: HOME MADE BOMBS

2000-10-01 Thread Olav
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEED INFO TEXASMAN8012 Maybe someone could make a statistic. How many please-delete-this, I-need-bomb-plans, I-need-these-xxx-passwords-now, You-need-killing--tim or whatever mails are there per month? Olav

Re: Natural rights (was Re: Shunning, lesbians and liberty)

2000-10-01 Thread James A.. Donald
-- I and most others on this list utterly reject that crap. As James Donald's .sig used to say (and maybe still does) "We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are." Still does in the newsgroups. For technical reasons I am not

Test - please delete

2000-09-29 Thread Gil Hamilton
Sorry - please ignore. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Natural rights (was Re: Shunning, lesbians and liberty)

2000-09-29 Thread Gil Hamilton
Sampo Syreeni writes: Actually I s ub scribe to neither view. I see rights as something that do not naturally exist, but are purely a societal product, subject to change through redefinition. Whether this happens because the government effects it or if the people start to view something as an

Re: Can we kill the 64-bit nonsense this year?

2000-09-29 Thread Bo Elkjaer
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Sandy Harris wrote about Wassenaar: My reading of that is that the current 64-bit limit for freely exportable commercial software dies at the end of this year if any Wassenaar country acts sensibly and votes to kill it. Of course, there will be pressure from the US and

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